Saturday, April 28, 2012
LQNPA, 4/27/12 -- I Confess or, The Road to Ro-Hell Is Paved with Paula’s Good Intentions
Cap. #88
Truth of life #101: honesty is not always the best policy. Truth of life #102: leave well enough alone, especially if you live at Hacienda del Fuerte. Truth of Life #103: everyone at Montero Manor, with the singular exception of La Sra. Montero herself, seems savvy enough to grasp these basic tenets of longevity.
Lo Del Pasado:
Cinthia hams it up with the hysterics for gullible Gustavo in hopes of scoring points with another kind of pointy-headed beastie. In Tuxtla, meanwhile, Rogelio learns from Hilda that Mensa-worthy Margarito has finally chucked the children’s home.
Lo Del Nuevo:
In the backyard of Hell-Fue’te’s main house, Efrain sneaks his arms around Sinthia and then gives her grief about throwing herself at Gallant Gus. (Note to self: send Efrain a case each of disposable razors and shaving cream along with instructional pictogram.) Sin prudes it up for benefit of the hacienda help walking by, and tells him hands off in public, remember? Ok, quips Effer, but next time, how about you fall into my arms and we let Gus get rid of the snake? Sin rightly puts the blame on Effer for letting the snake loose in the first place. She demands another one and this time they’d better get it right or else. The rest of the discussion deteriorates from there. FF>>
At the orphanage, Hilda and Oh-Hell are racking their brains trying to think of places nearby that a little kid might be attracted to. If that weren’t bad enough, in walks Vanessa to save Rog from the court of civil servancy: she’ll take the blame for leading Rog astray. (Sure, the damage is done. No skin of her pug nose!) Hilda tells her to save it cuz the kid’s run away and needs to be found ASAPP! Despite Rog’s protests, Nessa insists on using her connections to help find the sweet, adorable, little mud-muffin.
Back at Hell-Fuerte, Gus answers the phone. It’s Margarito explaining he’s run away from the orphanage. He’s hungry and wants somebody to come pick him up and take him home. Gus tells him to stay there and he’ll send somebody for him. The line goes dead before M-grito can give him a street name, but he does manage to describe the place enough beforehand so that Gus recognizes it as an amusement park or street fair for kids. Ana Paula walks in at that point wanting to speak to Margarito. Gus has to give her the bad news that the boy’s run off and the phone line died before he got the name of the street corner. Rosaura is right behind Pau and quickly reminds her that the kid’s not stupid and will probably call back. She sneaks a warning glance at Gus on her way out.
Hours have passed and they’ve got no clue back at the orphanage as to where to look for him. Nessa informs them that she’s enlisted the help of her friend who owns a radio station to publicize his description. Caras de concern and consternation for Hilda and Rog.
Ditto for AP. Gus is charmed by the Cupcake’s sincere concern for the little boy’s welfare, lost in a city the size of Tuxtla. He caresses her cheek and tells her that whether he’s around later on or not, he knows their child will grow up fine having her as his mom. She’s exactly the woman he wants to be the mother of his child.
In the kitchen, Rosie smiles with Gollum-like glee, momentarily forgetting herself in her elation at the news about Margarito’s going missing. She tells Daniela how wonderful it is that the boy ran away and that she hopes he stays lost. “—One less heir, you know? Better that Ana Paula’s son is the only Montero heir.” Squeaky looks on a bit woodenly and it’s hard to tell if she’s real or if she’s Memorvexed, but Michael is demonstrably disgusted with his aunt’s attitude. He reminds Rosie that Gus and AP won’t allow the kid to be officially recognized as Ro=Hell’s, whether she and Rog like the idea or not! Besides, Margarito’s going to be back eventually. Finally Dani pipes up to say Bruno’s told her that since AP’s married to Rog he really can register the child under his name.
Mike is sure Rosie’s happy to hear that, but he insists Rogelio Montero isn’t the long suffering cuckolded martyring hubby he lets everybody think he is. “—The guy isn’t worth it. While my sister was still fragile and stuck in her bed, he wasted no time to begin burning up the bed sheets in Tuxtla with Vainessa!”
In another part of the house, El Gusto Can Still Be Mío informs Sinthia about Margarito’s call, and how he’s got Esteban looking into all the fairs in the area for him. Sinthia plays the concerned auntie-to-be to the hilt as Viewerville suffers through another gag attack.
In the kitchen again, Rosie asks how these two know Ro-Hell did the deed with Vainy. Dani shows her the texted picture on her phone. Rosie grabs for it but Dani’s too quick for her and pulls it back. “No, Pau hasn’t seen the photo yet.” Rosie doesn’t want to her to either, for the sake of the peso’s invol…er…the pregnancy. Mikey warns her that if he has an inkling of a chance and it’s necessary, he will take AP’s blinders off in a Mexicali minute!
Sin sneaks a call to Nessa from her bedroom. She gives her BFF and PIC (partner in crime) the 411 on Margarito’s escape from the orphanage along with where Gus says he might be found. Vainy agrees to look at all possible fairs near the orphanage and once she finds him to nab him and dump him somewhere he’ll never be found.
Back in the kitchen while nobody’s looking and Dani’s at the stove cooking, Rosie filches Dan’i’s cellphone off the table and hides it. The others sit down to eat. She assumes mourning position and says she’s off to ask if there’s any news about p-o-o-o-o-o-r M-grito. Once she’s gone, Mike tells Dani he can’t believe what a nasty wicked person his aunt is. Hard for him to believe she’s the same person who took such good care of him and his sister when they were growing up. Dani’s answer is to overlook people’s faults so the family can always remain close through thick and thin. (I think I liked her better before when all she did was squeak.)
Pau, meantime, calls Rog to let him know Margarito called and is at some street fair nearby. Maria seeks out a few words of comfort from Pau regarding Margarito and then returns to the kitchen. Rosie walks into the room and warns Pau she’s got to get her husband back home right away because he’s there alone with that vamp, Vainessa! Pau says she’s not telling her anything she doesn’t already know. They discuss the call to his room that Nessa answered while Ro-Hell was supposedly taking a bath. She couldn’t understand the reason Vainessa would be in his bedroom, let alone answering his cell. (She doesn’t understand, or she refuses to? Mike’s gonna have to deal with some really huge blinders.) Rosie looks frantic. “—I warned you to take care of your husband!”
In teeming Tuxtla, Nessa recognizes M-grito and approaches him. She tries to tell him she’ll take him to Rogelio, but he refuses to leave with her. Esteban shows up while she’s battling with the kid.
Back at the hacienda, Rosie advises Pau that regarding Vainessa and Rog, what’s done is done and the best thing she can do is to turn a blind eye to it [hacer la vista gorda= look the other way]. Paula asks how she can possibly turn her back to this, but Rosie reminds her it would be like the pot calling the kettle black, considering. (Once again I find myself agreeing with the old gal!)
Margarito is smart enough to know Nessa isn’t in his fan club, no matter what she says. He doesn’t believe that she’s taking him to Rogelio for a minute, either, and he wants to know why Rog is not there with her. Esteban walks up at this point and hands the kid a sandwich, saying Gus sent him to find him and told him that he was hungry. Margarito is relieved and leaves to buy a soda. Esteban takes a minute to note how she always told him she hated kids. All of a sudden now that it’s Rog, she’s all gung-ho. Vainy rolls her eyes at her pushover of an ex, and tells him that life has a way of making people change.
Now Gus pampers his Cupcake by feeding her soup. Sin purposely interrupts by galumphing in to ask if there’s news about Margarito. On cue, Esteban calls to tell Gus he’s found him and is taking him back to Rogelio. Sin secretly curses her bad luck.
Back at the orphanage office, Ms. Meanie de Maura tells Rog not to give Margaro false hopes about going back home with them again. Margaro races in with Esteban and the two hug. He begs to be taken home. Rog has the rotten job of telling the boy that he and Paula were told they cannot adopt him after all. Margarito doesn’t understand and asks him why. Rog is red-faced and fuming at himself for having to admit it’s not Margaro’s fault, but because of something he did. He’s not sure there will be a way to fix things and he’ll have to understand. Anyway, he told him before there was the chance this might happen.
Dani and Mike start looking for her cellphone. FF>>
Rog tries telling Margaro that orphanages are there to give kids to families who can have any. Of course the boy doesn’t understand why they have a right to take him from the only home he’s ever known. (Don’t get me started with this! Chinese water torture or the pulling of fingernails might be in order for Bruno.) Margarito suggests that maybe Gus could adopt him instead. (Not a bad thought, but….) Rog promises to still look for a way to get him home again. They will never abandon him there; and in the meantime, every trip to Tuxtla Rog will come visit.
Maria and Pau put flowers in the chapel and, we assume, pray. FF>>
Later on, Nessa comes back in to apologize for the trouble she’s caused with all of this. (Hard to say if she’s being truthful, but Viewerville definitely has its doubts.) Rog tells her it’s not her fault. He should never have shown off in public with her the way he did. Nessa surprises him and the rest of us by actually offering to adopt him herself. Nice try, he says, but after what Maura saw and said, there’s no way she’d ever allow Naughty Nessa to adopt the boy.
Effer comes to the office to inform Sin that they’ve got more problems than just Margarito reappearing. The person who knows he has the letter about Margaro being Rog’s son wants it back. No way, says Sin. Just deny it! Can’t do that, says Effer. The way things have played out, I can’t and the worst of it is that they’re threatening to go to your brother about it!
In the living room again, Gus is there telling AP how upset Margarito sounded on the phone. “--I know, though, that whatever happens with Rogelio or myself, you are going to protect him. If you decide, as for me, I’d love having a family that consisted of you, our child, and Margarito.” (You’ve got to credit Gus for constantly giving it the old college try.) Stonefaced, Pau replies that first she’s got to define her new situation with Ro-Hell. With all that’s gone on with the Margarito’s situation, she doesn’t know how or if his plans will change again. Yeah, Gus has every right to stick around at the ready for the pregnancy and the baby’s birth; but first Ro-Hell has got to know the truth; they simply will not deceive him. Gus says no problem there, because he’s always wanted to be up front with him about it.
Sin warns Effer that the last person she wants knowing about that letter is Bro-Hell. We’ve got to be very careful about all this because, you know the way you always screw up. The adoption process doesn’t matter a hill of beans with that letter cuz all he’ll have to do is legally acknowledge the kid. Effer allows that would be pretty darn costly for her since the boy would be able to take everything she has away from her. He suggests it would be better to pay off the person instead. No, says Sin. She won’t put up with blackmail. (No, just a host of other major criminal pursuits like murder, theft, fraud, kidnapping, and bribery. Have I’ve missed anything?) Why won’t he just tell her who the person is, asks Sin. Because, says Effer, he knows the person will go straight to Rog if they know he’s told Sin. It’s better just to pay the person off. She needs to think about it and about what will cost her less in the long run. “--It’s not that serious a thing; it’s just buying silence.”
Gus and Pau argue a bit over whether he should tell Rog or she should tell Rog what’s what. She’s sure if she tells him calmly that he’ll react the same way. Gus is just as certain he won’t. They decide to tell him together.
The next morning, Pau prays at the little altar in her room and asks for strength to face the consequences of telling the truth about Gus to Rog.
Outside Sin races over to tell Gus that Bro-Hell has finally returned. Gus’s expression says it all: it’s time to face the music. Sin chatters on about how this time there’s nothing but good things to report back to him. “--You know, the hole for the well, the animals are healthy, the growth in the vegetable garden is good,--and each time I feel more able to manage the place. Effer comes out to bring them back inside for a meeting that Rog has called for everyone.
Rosie walks up behind Bruno and gives him some grief about letting “Vanesszora” loose to prey on Rogelio. Paula greets Rog and asks where Margarito is. He tells her the boy didn’t come back with him and that they’ll discuss it after. Sin walks in to greet him and instead of congratulating her on how well things there did this time in his absence (no thanks to her but to Goose, I say), he asks why she still hasn’t found out which one of them was David’s accomplice with the clenbuterol. He looks around the room and warns the lot of them that if the one responsible doesn’t come forward in the next three days, they’ll all be fired.
Meanwhile, across the way at Mercedes and Ernesto’s new digs, Mersnottys tells Ernie she’s off to pick up Esteban in town at the bus terminal and can’t accept his invitation to dinner. Steve’s just been reassigned to the region and will be staying there for a few months. Ernie is less than pleased over the news, but manages to hide it pretty well.
Effer and Sin are pissed at Bro-Hell’s unfair attitude. Sin is sure that the way he ignores the effort she put into “running” the hacienda that he’s certain to take her inheritance away from her and give it all to his heir. The plan to off the heir is on again. Effer wonders what set him off and put him in such a bad mood. Sin blames Effer’s failure to find out who let David into the hacienda the last time. Ruh-roh! (As if! No way the Judas goat will admit to his taking that 30 pesos of David’s gold.)
In town, Ulises and Macaria congratulate Consuelo’s being accepted into college. She starts in a couple of weeks. Once Uli’s gone, Connie coldly tells Macaria that just because they’re helping her out financially it doesn’t mean she’ll forget what Maracaria did with Effer. (Ok. Enough is enough. Who’s conning whom now? She’s got a good job and her way paid through college. What a true lack of class!)
At the same time, Goose looks for a meet with Rog. He starts out ready to fess up to being the baby-daddy but chickens out at the last minute and starts discussing the well holes he’s been digging. Rog thanks him for saving his sister’s life and for finding Margarito. Rog admits his bro-mance with Goose here and tells him just how much he appreciates him. “—You don’t know how I’ve wanted someone around me I could trust and look to for assistance. I would have liked having a brother like you.
Pau complains to Maria, meanwhile, that she’s upset and confused as to why Margarito didn’t come home with him and why Rog put it off for a later discussion. Not just that, she says, she totally disagrees with his high-handed attitude towards the ranch hands. Maria suggests that he’s got to maintain a heavy hand with the help to insure this doesn’t happen again and to underscore his authority as owner to avoid what David did from ever happening again. Pau says she’ll talk to him about that while she’s also about the business with Margaro and her baby.
Rog doesn’t understand Goose’s dear in the headlights look. Rog then apologizes for possibly insulting him. Goose tries explaining that under different circumstances he’d think it a privilege to have Rog consider him that way. Rog figures his attitude is a result of fighting with Sinthia. Goose tries to set him straight on that but someone comes in with the news that Abel and the Association members are there to greet him and accept him back into the fold. “—They must be coming with their tails between their legs.” Goose gets a reprieve and breathes easy again.
Back in her bedroom, Sin takes out a wad of bills she must have stolen from petti cash. It’s the bribery stash for Effer. He takes the cash and pockets it.
Mersnotty’s comes home right away. She explains to Ernie that he never showed up at the bus station. Just then there’s a knock on the door. It’s him with a house-warming gift. He appologizes for not getting hold of her but at the last minute Vanessa offered him lift back with her. She tries to snub him by telling him she and Ernie were just leaving for dinner. Ernie reminds her that Ms. Manners wouldn’t like that. He invites Steve to stay a while.
Effer finds Tomas and tells him he knows his brother’s up in the U.S. and he’s willing to loan him the cash to catch up with him there. Tomas wants to tell Maria and Rog first. Effer poo-poos that and says he’ll handle it. “--But, you’ve got to take all your things and leave right away. You’ll owe me one. And say Hi for me to your brother, Pancho.” Okay.
In town at the same time, Vainy drops a large 8x10 of the photo of her in bed with Rog into a manila envelope and addresses it. She tells her secretary to make sure she delivers the envelope personally to the addressee.
El Gusto now gets a visit from Sin who’s whining about Bro-Hell giving her the cold shoulder over the great way she managed the hacienda while he was gone. Gus gives her some encouragement but refuses her request to intercede for her. He’d like to help her out, but he can’t. It’s just not the right time. He’s about to tell Rog that the two of them have broken up and that he’s the baby-daddy.
Paula’s ready to climb the walls waiting for Rog to come speak to her. He rolls in and laughs at how the Stockman’s Association is begging him to be their president again. Pau says it’s only right since he’s a terrific man. He says it warms the cockles of his heart to hear that coming from her, even though he’s well aware that he’s got a long way to go before he can show her. He’s not proud of some of the things he did in Tuxtla. Paula tells him she realizes that the business with Margarito is out of his hands. A hint of worry briefly crosses his eyes for fear she might know the real reason why as well. Before he can continue she tells him she’s got a confession to make and that she simply can’t go on any longer. He asks if it’s that she finally has decided it’s him she wants. (Now that’s ego for you!)
Paula says she didn’t tell him before because she was afraid of how he’d react, but she just can’t handle it any more. She needs to tell him about the man who was her boyfriend. (Well, so much for facing El Ogre together.) “—Don’t tell me he came here while I was gone! Answer me! Did you see your child’s father?” “—Rogelio…my former …boyfriend is …Gustavo Durán, the engineer Gustavo Durán.” To say that Ro-Hell is bug-eyed impactado is puttin’ it mildly. (Viewerville has all their fingers and toes crossed in hopes that the photo of Vanessa’s bodacious bedding of her ex-beau makes it into Pau’s hands for a timely bit of recriminatory satisfaction before all proverbial fecal material is done hitting the fan!)
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Hmmm...though I doubt that Rogelio will make the plot simpler by eliminating Gustavo, the avances did show an angry Rogelio menacingly holding a rifle and Gustavo with a deer-in-the-headlights look (but not in the same screen, I think). Can't wait until Monday!
I haven't watched the episode yet, but the title gives me a fair idea of at least one person confessing their sins. I'm guessing it wasn't reciprocated.
Efraín bought out one of the workers. He used some of the money Sin gave him to buy the guy a trip to America. This should neutralize Rogelio's threat to banish the whole bunch from the ranch since the guy's disappearance will be interpreted as guilt.
I hope Dani's phone rings while Auntie Evil is wearing it.
I hope Dani's phone rings while Auntie Evil is wearing it.
I owe all the recapers a big apology .. I have been enjoying the recaps without commenting. This show is really good. Vanessa and sin are quiet a pair. They only see what they want to see. How dilusional can they be. As for tia rosuara, I can only hope she gets a good tn end. Here is an advance thank you for the recap
Olive
Olive
Permalink posted by 
: Sat Apr 28, 09:22:00 AM EDT
: Sat Apr 28, 09:22:00 AM EDT
Efrain and Cinthia continue with their downward slide. With Cinthia becoming dumber and dumber and obsessed with destroying Ana Paula, her choice of clothing is more and more irritating. She looks like a fool brandishing that whip; a total idiota. Those clothes make me want to barf.
Amazing to think that Miguel can actually sound intelligent now that he is no longer in his drunken stupor. He did a nice little job of giving it to his evil aunt. He's not ready to totally see her for what she is because he made the comment to Dani about 'all she had done for them' when they were children. Oh yeah, dude...she did so much for you!
Had to love it when Rogelio told Gustavo that he was like a brother he would have liked to have. Oh yeah...Gustavo was squirming, but it was the look on Rogelio's face and the smile that he gave him that really makes me wonder if Rogelio didn't put two and two together about Gustavo a long time ago.
I didn't watch all of "Teresa" and started watching when the actress playing Vanessa showed up on the scene. Her face seems so different here than it did there. Her lips and eyes look really funky. Am I imagining this? Did she go in for some plastics?
Ana Paula...I don't know, but she sure seems dumb. It's taken her how long to finally decide to tell Rogelio what she should have told him a long time ago?!
Amazing to think that Miguel can actually sound intelligent now that he is no longer in his drunken stupor. He did a nice little job of giving it to his evil aunt. He's not ready to totally see her for what she is because he made the comment to Dani about 'all she had done for them' when they were children. Oh yeah, dude...she did so much for you!
Had to love it when Rogelio told Gustavo that he was like a brother he would have liked to have. Oh yeah...Gustavo was squirming, but it was the look on Rogelio's face and the smile that he gave him that really makes me wonder if Rogelio didn't put two and two together about Gustavo a long time ago.
I didn't watch all of "Teresa" and started watching when the actress playing Vanessa showed up on the scene. Her face seems so different here than it did there. Her lips and eyes look really funky. Am I imagining this? Did she go in for some plastics?
Ana Paula...I don't know, but she sure seems dumb. It's taken her how long to finally decide to tell Rogelio what she should have told him a long time ago?!
Permalink posted by : Sat Apr 28, 10:42:00 AM EDT
: Sat Apr 28, 10:42:00 AM EDT
OK, I watched this episode, even though I said yesterday that I wasn't going to watch any more until the plot line improved. It hasn't, but here I am anyway.
I guess Gus isn't going to be Rog's new brother anymore.
I guess Gus isn't going to be Rog's new brother anymore.
I too noticed the big change in Mar Contreras' face between Teresa and LQ, but assumed that it was just makeup intended to make her look more like AP's sister. I hope she didn't do anything irreversible.
Great title, Jardinera. And thanks to recent recappers. I've been unable to post the last couple of days, some glitch with my google account.
I agree with Anon. that Cinthia is sliding into something between evil and insanity. I'm still laughing at Cat's stark sentence: "Efrain lost the snake" that for some reason captures for me the combination of locked room mystery and Keystone cops that this has become.
I have been trying to figure out why Vanessa is obsessed with Rogelio, other than to keep the plot busy and moving. Possibilities: she wants what she can't have, she likes powerful men, she wants what AP seems to have, she has memories of the past relationship with him. Any other ideas, anyone? It didn't work, she doesn't want to live in the country, they want different things, he's indifferent to her in general!
I do love when he says that they are both adults . . . .
Miguel does make sense these days.
The little actor who plays Margaro has been very good lately and is perfectly cast looks-wise to play Rogelio's son.
Looks like 78 episodes to go. But who's counting?
I agree with Anon. that Cinthia is sliding into something between evil and insanity. I'm still laughing at Cat's stark sentence: "Efrain lost the snake" that for some reason captures for me the combination of locked room mystery and Keystone cops that this has become.
I have been trying to figure out why Vanessa is obsessed with Rogelio, other than to keep the plot busy and moving. Possibilities: she wants what she can't have, she likes powerful men, she wants what AP seems to have, she has memories of the past relationship with him. Any other ideas, anyone? It didn't work, she doesn't want to live in the country, they want different things, he's indifferent to her in general!
I do love when he says that they are both adults . . . .
Miguel does make sense these days.
The little actor who plays Margaro has been very good lately and is perfectly cast looks-wise to play Rogelio's son.
Looks like 78 episodes to go. But who's counting?
Love the title Jardinera!
Olive - thanks do much for posting and letting us know you have been following! We love to hear from readers/watchers.
Olive - thanks do much for posting and letting us know you have been following! We love to hear from readers/watchers.
Yes, the face changes for Mar Contreras stood out to me - I didn't think it was just the straight hair. They were playing space alien music for Vainy last night!!
Olive - Sin and Vain only seeing what they want to see. That's pretty de riguer for TNs. Drives me nuts, but often used.
Sin is just horrid! And WAY too much Vainy in this one! Rogelio probably realizes by now that Vainy will never leave him alone - now that they've been lovers, she'll stay stuck on him like white on rice. What does Vainy see in Rogelio? Mostly, that he's her "prize", and can't be anyone else's.
Yes, Ana Paula has always been dumb (except she has book smarts) and is easily swayed emotionally. Look at how long she has witnessed her aunt's horrid life philosophy, and she still unquestionably believes her aunt has her best interests at heart - gag! Personally, I think part of Rogelio's attraction to AP is that she is naive and can be emotionally manipulated. How cynically Rogelio "negotiates" with Tía Rosaura for AP's "affections". But her emotional wishy-washiness is also a source of frustration for him - two sides of the same card!
Olive - Sin and Vain only seeing what they want to see. That's pretty de riguer for TNs. Drives me nuts, but often used.
Sin is just horrid! And WAY too much Vainy in this one! Rogelio probably realizes by now that Vainy will never leave him alone - now that they've been lovers, she'll stay stuck on him like white on rice. What does Vainy see in Rogelio? Mostly, that he's her "prize", and can't be anyone else's.
Yes, Ana Paula has always been dumb (except she has book smarts) and is easily swayed emotionally. Look at how long she has witnessed her aunt's horrid life philosophy, and she still unquestionably believes her aunt has her best interests at heart - gag! Personally, I think part of Rogelio's attraction to AP is that she is naive and can be emotionally manipulated. How cynically Rogelio "negotiates" with Tía Rosaura for AP's "affections". But her emotional wishy-washiness is also a source of frustration for him - two sides of the same card!
Looking forward to the recap to this doozy of an episode Jardinera. So AP confessed that Gus is her ex boyfriend and father to her child.
I wonder though before she confessed, it seemed as though Rog was going to admit his own discretion with Vainessa. I guess that's out the window now lol.
I wonder will Rosaura give Dani back her phone since she swiped it. It's not like AP won't see the incriminating photo since Vainessa made sure that it's sent to the hacienda so she can sit back and watch the fireworks.
I got really tired of her showing up that agency pawing all over Rog.
I felt bad for Margaro. His hopes of being adopted by Rog and AP were dashed because of Rog's stupidity.
Cinthia is getting on my last nerve with the scheming in making sure the boy doesn't return. It's time for that letter to resurface and for Rog to find out the boy is his.
Judging by the previews, all hell is about to break lose as Rog unleashes his fury on AP and Gus. Mean Rog is back big time lol.
I wonder though before she confessed, it seemed as though Rog was going to admit his own discretion with Vainessa. I guess that's out the window now lol.
I wonder will Rosaura give Dani back her phone since she swiped it. It's not like AP won't see the incriminating photo since Vainessa made sure that it's sent to the hacienda so she can sit back and watch the fireworks.
I got really tired of her showing up that agency pawing all over Rog.
I felt bad for Margaro. His hopes of being adopted by Rog and AP were dashed because of Rog's stupidity.
Cinthia is getting on my last nerve with the scheming in making sure the boy doesn't return. It's time for that letter to resurface and for Rog to find out the boy is his.
Judging by the previews, all hell is about to break lose as Rog unleashes his fury on AP and Gus. Mean Rog is back big time lol.
Permalink posted by : Sat Apr 28, 02:01:00 PM EDT
: Sat Apr 28, 02:01:00 PM EDT
My poor Rogelio. He lost his "son" Margarito, and his "brother" Gustavo in one day.
Have I said lately how much I hate that smug piece of crap named Goose. When does he take a dirt nap next to David?
Have I said lately how much I hate that smug piece of crap named Goose. When does he take a dirt nap next to David?
Permalink posted by : Sat Apr 28, 04:17:00 PM EDT
: Sat Apr 28, 04:17:00 PM EDT
Looking forward to the recap, Jardinera! LOVE the title!
Oh yeah, UA and I (who do Mondays and Tuesdays) are going to have FUN FUN FUN recapping! LOL. (I can't speak for Wednesday or the rest of the week because I can't remember that far ahead.) It's a busy time on this TN.
As for Vain, I am just guessing, but since she is so VAIN, I think her obsession with Rohell probably started when she came to visit him at the Hacienda (around episode 4 or 5) and he was so angry he fell out of his chair and waved his whip at her. She was soooooo shocked that he was MAD! At HER! Delusional bruja.
We are told that Esteban complained because Vain's "love" for Rohell cast a shadow over their marriage, but still, Vain never bothered to contact Rohell all that time. The main reason she did was because the loss of that important contract to the business. So I'm thinking that Rohell was important to her (as a past love) but not that that important, since she was able to move on with Esteban and everything. Only when Rohell rejected her and disdained her did she seem to become relentless. And her attitude has always been, "I KNEW he couldn't resist ME!" All vanity. How dare any man that she wants to impress not be impressed!
So I think it's a mixture of past love, and vanity that has her going.
As for Rohell in these past episodes, he is a dumbass, dumbass, dumbass, and to all your Rogelianas out there, remember that there wouldn't be any Rogeliana fanbase left if things didn't improve . . . so . . . be patient. We can all commiserate on the dumbassness and lameness here together! LOL.
But anyway, Rohell is a dumbass, but at least give him credit for recognizing it soon and making sure Vain knows that he regrets it all.
Now that Rohell has just heard a very big bombshell about the Goosestavito, so he's likely going to pull some douchebag moves. (Not trying to give away any spoilers, just stating the OBVIOUS! LOL.)
Interesting times ahead, some of them dark (as can be expected, with Rohell's anticipated anger is unleashed). Should be interesting. But dark. Sigh. At least it can't last forever.
Oh yeah, UA and I (who do Mondays and Tuesdays) are going to have FUN FUN FUN recapping! LOL. (I can't speak for Wednesday or the rest of the week because I can't remember that far ahead.) It's a busy time on this TN.
As for Vain, I am just guessing, but since she is so VAIN, I think her obsession with Rohell probably started when she came to visit him at the Hacienda (around episode 4 or 5) and he was so angry he fell out of his chair and waved his whip at her. She was soooooo shocked that he was MAD! At HER! Delusional bruja.
We are told that Esteban complained because Vain's "love" for Rohell cast a shadow over their marriage, but still, Vain never bothered to contact Rohell all that time. The main reason she did was because the loss of that important contract to the business. So I'm thinking that Rohell was important to her (as a past love) but not that that important, since she was able to move on with Esteban and everything. Only when Rohell rejected her and disdained her did she seem to become relentless. And her attitude has always been, "I KNEW he couldn't resist ME!" All vanity. How dare any man that she wants to impress not be impressed!
So I think it's a mixture of past love, and vanity that has her going.
As for Rohell in these past episodes, he is a dumbass, dumbass, dumbass, and to all your Rogelianas out there, remember that there wouldn't be any Rogeliana fanbase left if things didn't improve . . . so . . . be patient. We can all commiserate on the dumbassness and lameness here together! LOL.
But anyway, Rohell is a dumbass, but at least give him credit for recognizing it soon and making sure Vain knows that he regrets it all.
Now that Rohell has just heard a very big bombshell about the Goosestavito, so he's likely going to pull some douchebag moves. (Not trying to give away any spoilers, just stating the OBVIOUS! LOL.)
Interesting times ahead, some of them dark (as can be expected, with Rohell's anticipated anger is unleashed). Should be interesting. But dark. Sigh. At least it can't last forever.
Your recap was great, I enjoyed it so much!
ITA with you, we need to cut Gus a little slack, Rohell is looking like a total $#it-heel right now. How I wish right after AP told him her boyfriend and baby daddy is Gus, if she would have added, "Oh, and what was it you were going to tell me about why Vannessa was in your room?"
I'm glad that cat is out of the bag.
The only true thing Aunt Rosy has ever said, "Vanneszora"-do you know that the CC in English translated it Vanesslut? Now I know if you type in Vanneszora into google you won't get that translation. Obviously the CC's maker is not a robot.
Right now, Effer (and Sin) are the only people who know that Margaro is Rohell's son. Does Bruno know? This doesn't bode well for Effer's survival.
ITA with you, we need to cut Gus a little slack, Rohell is looking like a total $#it-heel right now. How I wish right after AP told him her boyfriend and baby daddy is Gus, if she would have added, "Oh, and what was it you were going to tell me about why Vannessa was in your room?"
I'm glad that cat is out of the bag.
The only true thing Aunt Rosy has ever said, "Vanneszora"-do you know that the CC in English translated it Vanesslut? Now I know if you type in Vanneszora into google you won't get that translation. Obviously the CC's maker is not a robot.
Right now, Effer (and Sin) are the only people who know that Margaro is Rohell's son. Does Bruno know? This doesn't bode well for Effer's survival.
I was so worried when I thought that only vanessa found margaro, because I thought that for sure she was going to keep him locked up somewhere forever & soooo did not want to go down that storyline of a missing margaro for a couple episodes, super relieved when esteban showed up, at least the kid knew not to go with her
after tonight's episode too much temptation not to find out what happens next, next few recaps are going to be awesome!
jlk
after tonight's episode too much temptation not to find out what happens next, next few recaps are going to be awesome!
jlk
Permalink posted by : Sat Apr 28, 08:53:00 PM EDT
: Sat Apr 28, 08:53:00 PM EDT
Thank you Jardinera, my weekend treat is complete. I completely agree about the disposable razors and the instructional pictogram. What a hayseed that Effer is. Cindy is truly demented to be rolling around with the likes of him, but we knew that already.
As for Dani "I think I liked her better before when all she did was squeak". I know, bo-o-o-oring.
And I loved your especially clever aside: "The plan to off the heir is on again." More klutzy Keystone Kop maneuvers by the snake charmer and his lunatic sidekick.
As for Dani "I think I liked her better before when all she did was squeak". I know, bo-o-o-oring.
And I loved your especially clever aside: "The plan to off the heir is on again." More klutzy Keystone Kop maneuvers by the snake charmer and his lunatic sidekick.
Hi Jardinera! Thanks so much for the recap - I really enjoyed it.
Yep, Dani is pretty boneheaded about the relationship stuff these days - she is thinking like an enabler. Not good. I'm glad Miguel is setting her straight these days.
Hi jlk - glad you joined us. We're getting a lot of new commenters. It's great!
GatoViejo, thanks again for your regular posting of the bilingual closed captions. My husband has really been using them to practice his listening skills.
Yep, Dani is pretty boneheaded about the relationship stuff these days - she is thinking like an enabler. Not good. I'm glad Miguel is setting her straight these days.
Hi jlk - glad you joined us. We're getting a lot of new commenters. It's great!
GatoViejo, thanks again for your regular posting of the bilingual closed captions. My husband has really been using them to practice his listening skills.
Gatoviejo; I am also using them for learning Spanish; thank you.
I still think you must be some kind of genius to make a program that does that...
I still think you must be some kind of genius to make a program that does that...
Jardinera, Thanks for the funny recap of the keystone cops try ranching for a change of pace. Sinthia is deluded to be so proud that the ranch didn't burn all the way to the highway while she snapped her little whip and jutted her little ribs over the peons. Sheesh, and now I suppose RoHell is going to go all postal and forget his indiscretions and infidelity since he can hide all that in his rage about Goose drilling the cupcake instead of the wells, err , I guess he was able to do both but we know which one we will have to hear about all next week. In some ways this story is funnier than Familia which is at least billed as a comedy. I enjoy just hearing about these crazy wonkers and not having to write about them right now. Jardinera is so so right about Squeaky, she was better as a babbling blond.
Hi Cheryl! I enjoyed hearing your take on things. Yep - you got it. We accepted that no one inside Hacienda Fuerte was sane a while back.
We all know that for the protagonistas it's: if I do it, well, I've got excuses, but if YOU do it, then I'm really MAD.
We all know that for the protagonistas it's: if I do it, well, I've got excuses, but if YOU do it, then I'm really MAD.
Glad to see all the new commenters joining us to wring our hands and pull our hair out over these crazy characters. Ditto Audrey's welcome comments!
Cheryl/NM--Glad you're still with us. You're usually on an earlier tn schedule and I miss your witty commentaries.
Cheryl/NM--Glad you're still with us. You're usually on an earlier tn schedule and I miss your witty commentaries.
Gato Viejo:
I have to thank you also for the ingenious job you've done with the auto-translation of the CC's. When they go out or I'm in a hurry, it helps having the Spanish there in print to refer to.
If you have one for Abismo set up, I'd love to have the link!! Thanks!
I have to thank you also for the ingenious job you've done with the auto-translation of the CC's. When they go out or I'm in a hurry, it helps having the Spanish there in print to refer to.
If you have one for Abismo set up, I'd love to have the link!! Thanks!
Lxv: Agness, how long should we expect Rog to have to recuperate to start walking normally after Ernie operates? Teresa took around a year which we realize was supersonic speed for quadriplegics. He's a paraplegic case.
Great work, Jardinera. I'm going to enjoy dealing with the aftermath of the closing scene of this episode.
Nobody seems to remember that Rogelio has never actually killed anyone nor ordered a hit. He does bite, but not fatally.
Of course, we can probably count on Bruno to make those papers surface now because why wait? Do a thorough job and then eat the Cupcake alive (I almost mean that literally).
I think if Rogelio has the operation now he will be up and walking by the time Cupcake's baby is born. Based on standard TN timing and the fact that he does have feeling in them.
Totally agree with the razors and shave cream suggestion. Fabian Robles seems to be enjoying his role which must be some compensation for having to look so scuzzy.
Nobody seems to remember that Rogelio has never actually killed anyone nor ordered a hit. He does bite, but not fatally.
Of course, we can probably count on Bruno to make those papers surface now because why wait? Do a thorough job and then eat the Cupcake alive (I almost mean that literally).
I think if Rogelio has the operation now he will be up and walking by the time Cupcake's baby is born. Based on standard TN timing and the fact that he does have feeling in them.
Totally agree with the razors and shave cream suggestion. Fabian Robles seems to be enjoying his role which must be some compensation for having to look so scuzzy.
Jardinera, thanks so much for the wonderful recap. I love your way with language, especially "The plan to off the heir is on again," "his bro-mance with Goose," and "El Gusto Can Still Be Mío." And I very much agree with your impatience with Consuelo. What at first seemed like justifiable anger at Macaria's infidelity now strikes me as insufferable self-righteousness.
Like everyone else, I'm eagerly looking forward to this week's episodios.
Like everyone else, I'm eagerly looking forward to this week's episodios.
We can assume that they gave him up as hopleless seven years ago, so all he's been getting is passive range of motion exercises. He's been completely non-weight-bearing all this time, so there must be considerable atrophy. We do not know the neurological level of injury (NLI) but the fact that he has sensation and enough neuromuscular control for bowel and bladder function, as well as, ahem! that other thing, bodes well.
Recovery from spinal cord injury is unpredictable, but i snagged this info froma website. "...Seventy-six percent of the 54 individuals with incomplete paraplegia were able to ambulate in the community 1 year following injury (Waters, Adkins, Yakura, & Sie, 1994a)..." If he had complete paraplegia, then his chances would be much reduced. "Although 38 percent of those with an NLI below T9 had some recovery of LE function, only 5 percent recovered sufficient hip and knee strength to ambulate using conventional orthoses and crutches." (from the same article).
This will take a lotta work to accomplish, but I predict he will have the surgery, then the next day everybody will crowd around his hospital bed and expect him to get right up and walk. Of course he'll falter and then the Oh Noes will begin. Remember people he hasn't used his legs in 7 years. It amazes me that he hasn't had a million other problems like swelling and clots and weight gain.
I've not done any nursing for decades, so I don't know much about what they do anymore. The prognosis used to be pretty bleak. Someone with real expertise might want to chime in. Carlos?
Recovery from spinal cord injury is unpredictable, but i snagged this info froma website. "...Seventy-six percent of the 54 individuals with incomplete paraplegia were able to ambulate in the community 1 year following injury (Waters, Adkins, Yakura, & Sie, 1994a)..." If he had complete paraplegia, then his chances would be much reduced. "Although 38 percent of those with an NLI below T9 had some recovery of LE function, only 5 percent recovered sufficient hip and knee strength to ambulate using conventional orthoses and crutches." (from the same article).
This will take a lotta work to accomplish, but I predict he will have the surgery, then the next day everybody will crowd around his hospital bed and expect him to get right up and walk. Of course he'll falter and then the Oh Noes will begin. Remember people he hasn't used his legs in 7 years. It amazes me that he hasn't had a million other problems like swelling and clots and weight gain.
I've not done any nursing for decades, so I don't know much about what they do anymore. The prognosis used to be pretty bleak. Someone with real expertise might want to chime in. Carlos?
Oh, and didn't we see him actually stand up that one time when the Tia was badgering him? So he's probably stronger than we think. But guys, I had a big surgery a little over a year ago and even though I'm stronger than before, the surgery itself knocks the wind out of your sails for longer than you expect. So no fisticuffs with the Goose I'm afraid.
Tia MentiRosa and Vainessa both provoked him to stand. Vainessa backed up in shock at the sight of the riding crop and he fell forward. Tia MentiRosa probably should have worn her Depends.
Heading off to watch AdP before getting to work on my recap for tomorrow.
Heading off to watch AdP before getting to work on my recap for tomorrow.
Thanks for the recap; you cracked me up with "bro-mance". Not sure if "dear in the headlights" was a typo or deliberate but a good one either way.
My getting-tired-of-Gustavo-ness level bumped up a notch when he tried to force-feed soup to AP.
Review of caption links:
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Abismo
My getting-tired-of-Gustavo-ness level bumped up a notch when he tried to force-feed soup to AP.
Review of caption links:
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Abismo
@GatoViejo: me too, what is she a baby or something? I almost gagged. Didn't the Tia also try to spoon feed her with her "special recipe" which AP, sensibly, refused?
Could someone please explain this for me: Cinthia took over the management of the hacienda when Ana Paula became bedridden. Got it.
Ana Paula is no longer bedridden and Rogelio is back on the scene. Why is Cinthia still barking out orders when the other two are on site?
Also, someone said that Cinthia was illiterate. Was that because she could not read the papers in front of her (literally) or because she was too lazy to read them and plot a solution?
I get a kick out of watching her with that whip. She thinks it confers magic powers on her dimwitted little brain.
I also think that one of her cheapo looking chokers will be the cause of her demise (which she deserves for wanting to get rid of a living child and an unborn child).
Ana Paula is no longer bedridden and Rogelio is back on the scene. Why is Cinthia still barking out orders when the other two are on site?
Also, someone said that Cinthia was illiterate. Was that because she could not read the papers in front of her (literally) or because she was too lazy to read them and plot a solution?
I get a kick out of watching her with that whip. She thinks it confers magic powers on her dimwitted little brain.
I also think that one of her cheapo looking chokers will be the cause of her demise (which she deserves for wanting to get rid of a living child and an unborn child).
Permalink posted by : Sun Apr 29, 11:59:00 AM EDT
: Sun Apr 29, 11:59:00 AM EDT
Dead spinal nerves stay dead, if he didn't regain use within a few weeks or months at most after the injucy he won't get the function back even with surgery unless there is a miracle.
If they do this in the story I was just planning on tightening my beanie a little for the sake of poetic license.
Welcome all the new people!
Urban and LXV I never thought of what Tia was trying to do! Everyone is gunning for her. If I were her I'd move to another county and forget Gus and Rohell, and leave no forwarding address to Tia ever.
If they do this in the story I was just planning on tightening my beanie a little for the sake of poetic license.
Welcome all the new people!
Urban and LXV I never thought of what Tia was trying to do! Everyone is gunning for her. If I were her I'd move to another county and forget Gus and Rohell, and leave no forwarding address to Tia ever.
I think Cinthia is illiterate of legal jargon only, and of ranching terms. They had one of those montage scenes weeks ago of Rohell teaching AP the "books" of the ranch.
Cinthia still running the place one AP got out of bed is Cinthia's delusions of grandeur; Rohell always specified AP was to run things in his absence-AP is too polite to bark bac,
Cinthia still running the place one AP got out of bed is Cinthia's delusions of grandeur; Rohell always specified AP was to run things in his absence-AP is too polite to bark bac,
ok. So let's pretend that Rog has been secretly practicing using his leg muscles all these years but never made a big deal about it except with Hugo. Perhaps then we don't have to tighten our beanies so much.
BTW, one of the earlier versions had the Rog character stuck in a wheelchair throughout and unable to function sexually at all I believe. He also remained a ruthless/vengeful man I think.
Anon., to add to Emarie's points, Rog really put Goosecakes in charge. She's also been chatting with AP throughout and discussing strategies whether she realized it or not so, the only thing she's been doing is barking orders at Effer when she gets the urge to play with her whip. The help are going to Goose and AP when there's been a question, otherwise I'm sure they know their jobs extremely well and do what's needed from experience.
Thanks for clearing things up regarding who is actually running the place.
Some others have said this, but I think Ana Paula is not the sharpest knife in the drawer.
Some others have said this, but I think Ana Paula is not the sharpest knife in the drawer.
Permalink posted by : Sun Apr 29, 01:47:00 PM EDT
: Sun Apr 29, 01:47:00 PM EDT
Wonder how long Tia is going to keep the phone. Why doesn't Dani have someone call her cell and listen for the ring.? I lose mine off and on all the time and that's what I do. Oh that's right. I can think and don't live in TNland.
Did EF just pick some random guy to be blamed for being David's accomplice? The guy seemed pretty easy to convince. Must have been a lot of dinero - where did Sin get it? I suppose there is a safe in Rog's office.
I can only imagine how Monday night is going to be. These people are a therapist's dream - everything from anger mismanagement, to sex addiction, to codependence, to overal moral debauchery, to just plain ungratefulness.
I agree with whoever said it - or was it all of us - I am sick of almost everyone right now and wish for a bucket load of snakes to be let loose.
I would like a few nights of happy times but know that is a long way away.
Marti
Did EF just pick some random guy to be blamed for being David's accomplice? The guy seemed pretty easy to convince. Must have been a lot of dinero - where did Sin get it? I suppose there is a safe in Rog's office.
I can only imagine how Monday night is going to be. These people are a therapist's dream - everything from anger mismanagement, to sex addiction, to codependence, to overal moral debauchery, to just plain ungratefulness.
I agree with whoever said it - or was it all of us - I am sick of almost everyone right now and wish for a bucket load of snakes to be let loose.
I would like a few nights of happy times but know that is a long way away.
Marti
Marti, I thought Tia tried to get the phone and didn't. Dani lost track of the phone?
Not sure it matters, anyway; the photos have been sent, don't you know they will pop up when strategically time in the story.
Not sure it matters, anyway; the photos have been sent, don't you know they will pop up when strategically time in the story.
Tia had the phone behind her back when she was talking to AP. I hope she deletes the picture, but I know Vanessa will still have it on her phone and can send it again.
I know, I know tighten beanie....but with all the discussion about Rogelio walking/not walking again I was struck with the thought -- How did Vanessa manage to get him undressed and into bed all by herself? Obviously the man could not have been too drunk/drugged and offered her some assistance. I promise to not focus too much on this thought.
Thanks for the great recaps!!! and all the fun comments. I am saying some of this in advance since I have a CRAZY week and am hoping to catch at least one "real time" episode this week.
Thanks for the great recaps!!! and all the fun comments. I am saying some of this in advance since I have a CRAZY week and am hoping to catch at least one "real time" episode this week.
You bring up something I thought of too, Pam. I suppose Hugo could have helped. Perhaps Vainessa "discreetly" left the hotel room and Rohell called in Hugo to help him to bed, and then Vain came back and things proceeded from there. In any case, Hugo HAS to know what is going on. Lucky for Rohell, Hugo is a very loyal, discreet fellow himself. (And he'd BETTER get paid well!)
Something I've been wondering about, and tightening my beanie over: What exactly was Sin's and Vainessa's "plan" for disposing of M-grito when he was found at the amusement park? I don't think Vain is evil enough to outright kill him, so what was she planning on doing? Dumping him in the middle of nowhere? Shipping him to a boarding house in Sweden? She'd have to really work hard to come up with some non-lethal solution to get rid of him permanently, because wherever she deposits him, he's going to talk and he's going to want to be returned "home." So I don't get how they thought that would work, unless Vain was willing to have him killed. Which I don't believe.
Something I've been wondering about, and tightening my beanie over: What exactly was Sin's and Vainessa's "plan" for disposing of M-grito when he was found at the amusement park? I don't think Vain is evil enough to outright kill him, so what was she planning on doing? Dumping him in the middle of nowhere? Shipping him to a boarding house in Sweden? She'd have to really work hard to come up with some non-lethal solution to get rid of him permanently, because wherever she deposits him, he's going to talk and he's going to want to be returned "home." So I don't get how they thought that would work, unless Vain was willing to have him killed. Which I don't believe.
It won't matter much if Tia Rosie deleted the photo or not once the large photograph of her and Rog in bed Vainy had blown up and stuck into the envelope gets delivered into AP's hands by her secretary--at least that's who I think she wanted it delivered to.
Rosie stuck the phone under her blouse while talking to AP.
Rosie stuck the phone under her blouse while talking to AP.
Pasofino: thinking with that legal mind of yours, right? It puzzled me at first why he was taking that money and giving it to Tomas, and then after seeing your comment things fell into place. The synapses just don't work like they used to for me.....LOL
That was my assumption, pay Tomas to leave and them accuse him in his absence of being David's accomplice in the clembutacrap.
Yep, I figured Effer was setting up Tomás to take the fall as David's accomplice.
What an ideal employee Effer is! Not quite as bad as Bruno, I'll admit, but geez the guy is corrupt!
What an ideal employee Effer is! Not quite as bad as Bruno, I'll admit, but geez the guy is corrupt!
Unless Vainessa sent that photo to her own cell phone and deleted it from Rogelio's he will find it eventually. He might also figure out what Vainessa did with it. Another drama to wait for.
Oh Jardinera, this was fun and fabulous! From the title down to crossed in hopes that the photo of "...Vanessa’s bodacious bedding of her ex-beau makes it into Pau’s hands for a timely bit of recriminatory satisfaction..." was simply marvelous.
You are the master!
Everything is such a mess but at least the truth is finally out. And while the Vain/Rog tryst was despicable, it had to happen as Ana must have some leverage to offset her devastating news. I think pictures of her husband and sister in bed should do it...
Diana
You are the master!
Everything is such a mess but at least the truth is finally out. And while the Vain/Rog tryst was despicable, it had to happen as Ana must have some leverage to offset her devastating news. I think pictures of her husband and sister in bed should do it...
Diana
Permalink posted by : Mon Apr 30, 07:13:00 AM EDT
: Mon Apr 30, 07:13:00 AM EDT
I dont think that photo was taken with Rogelio's cell. 1) Vainessa reached over to her side of the bed (her nightstand) to pick up the phone before she snapped the picture. And 2) when Dani received the photo message, she knew it was from Vainessa. If it had been sent from Rogelio's phone, she might have thought Rogelio sent it.
I think V and R happen to have the same type of phone. Product placement?
I think V and R happen to have the same type of phone. Product placement?
Fasten your seatbelts tonight, amigos, because it's going to be a hell of a ride.
I have the feeling the entire rest of the novela will be like this.
I have the feeling the entire rest of the novela will be like this.
Urban: I am definitely looking forward to this particular part of the storyline, if only because now that Rosie has the photo text in her possession, SHE will be in position to really keep Rog in line and control his actions/reactions towards her niece!!
Thanks for this most excellent recap, Jardinera.
Agnes, thanks for the confidence you have in my medical opinion. Last week I observed that Rog's recovery of sexual function, in light of what we had already learned about his neurological status, was atypical. I really don't have anything to add about the prospect of him walking again. I couldn't say it any better than Emarie already has:
"Dead spinal nerves stay dead..."
Therefore I'm banking on a Festivus miracle.
Agnes, you did touch on something that I've thought about in reference to the real life events that affected Jorge Salinas but have been reluctant to comment on:
"It amazes me that he hasn't had a million other problems like swelling and clots..."
I've wondered if prolonged use of the wheelchair in filming this may have contributed to his pulmonary embolism.
Carlos
Agnes, thanks for the confidence you have in my medical opinion. Last week I observed that Rog's recovery of sexual function, in light of what we had already learned about his neurological status, was atypical. I really don't have anything to add about the prospect of him walking again. I couldn't say it any better than Emarie already has:
"Dead spinal nerves stay dead..."
Therefore I'm banking on a Festivus miracle.
Agnes, you did touch on something that I've thought about in reference to the real life events that affected Jorge Salinas but have been reluctant to comment on:
"It amazes me that he hasn't had a million other problems like swelling and clots..."
I've wondered if prolonged use of the wheelchair in filming this may have contributed to his pulmonary embolism.
Carlos
Carlos: Had I realized you were still struttin' your stuff around these parts on the weekends, I'd have made sure to address my electronic missive towards your hallowed virtual hallways as well, maestro. ; ? ))
The answer has given rise to my convoluted response that Rog has been secretly practicing all these years with Hugo and simply too unsure of himself or depressed to take the show on the road, so to speak, till AP came along--or we'd not have seen him threaten Rosie by standing. Like I say, it's just a convoluted solution to avoid a headache from further beanie tightening.....
The answer has given rise to my convoluted response that Rog has been secretly practicing all these years with Hugo and simply too unsure of himself or depressed to take the show on the road, so to speak, till AP came along--or we'd not have seen him threaten Rosie by standing. Like I say, it's just a convoluted solution to avoid a headache from further beanie tightening.....
I am not a doctor or a shrink and I wish I were playing one on TV, but I couldn't imagine a man like Rogelio concealing an ability to walk for any length of time. It all sounds very psychological to me, just like the impotence.
Had he been aware of an ability to be fully sexually functional he would have done something about it before this but his emotional guard was too strong and in place too long. He's been letting it down gradually with Ana Paula, but it slipped when he got drunk with -- or was drugged by -- Vainessa. Failing with Ana Paula was not an option now that she has had another (and younger) man to compare him to (despite the strong possibility that he is more talented at the finer points).
Ernesto might suspect or know this, but if that is the case he's being very cautious in not sharing this with anyone. Smart man.
Had he been aware of an ability to be fully sexually functional he would have done something about it before this but his emotional guard was too strong and in place too long. He's been letting it down gradually with Ana Paula, but it slipped when he got drunk with -- or was drugged by -- Vainessa. Failing with Ana Paula was not an option now that she has had another (and younger) man to compare him to (despite the strong possibility that he is more talented at the finer points).
Ernesto might suspect or know this, but if that is the case he's being very cautious in not sharing this with anyone. Smart man.
Carlos wrote: "I've wondered if prolonged use of the wheelchair in filming this may have contributed to his pulmonary embolism."
YES! I have wondered this too!
As for Rohell's "functioning" now with Vain, I agree with UA, if we are to believe that he didn't know that he could function before, it was all emotional, and made worse by the worry that Cupcake has a younger guy to compare him to.
At the same time, I am just a little amazed he didn't know what he could and could not do. Plus, he didn't seem that affected (or pleased) when he was told by Maria (after the wedding) that Cupcake was a virgin. Had Rohell been insecure about his ability to please her, thinking she was a virgin (and had nothing to compare him to) should have been a relief.
I still don't get how he didn't know. But I guess he had a plan to put on all these amazing moves to rock her world, whether or not he could . . . you know.
In any case, tighten your beanies! That's all I can say about this aspect of the plot, so far.
As for what's coming up. Oh yeah, fun times, fun times. But it can't stay this crazy forever. We have about 70 episodes left or something?
YES! I have wondered this too!
As for Rohell's "functioning" now with Vain, I agree with UA, if we are to believe that he didn't know that he could function before, it was all emotional, and made worse by the worry that Cupcake has a younger guy to compare him to.
At the same time, I am just a little amazed he didn't know what he could and could not do. Plus, he didn't seem that affected (or pleased) when he was told by Maria (after the wedding) that Cupcake was a virgin. Had Rohell been insecure about his ability to please her, thinking she was a virgin (and had nothing to compare him to) should have been a relief.
I still don't get how he didn't know. But I guess he had a plan to put on all these amazing moves to rock her world, whether or not he could . . . you know.
In any case, tighten your beanies! That's all I can say about this aspect of the plot, so far.
As for what's coming up. Oh yeah, fun times, fun times. But it can't stay this crazy forever. We have about 70 episodes left or something?
I hope it's okay for me to post this link here. Last night, Jorge made an appearance at Nuestra Belleza Latina and guess who else made an appearance. Our own Julián Gil aka Bruno. He and Jorge had the audience in hysterics in a skit they performed together. Here's the link this!
If this isn't okay feel free to delete it.
If this isn't okay feel free to delete it.
Permalink posted by : Mon Apr 30, 02:05:00 PM EDT
: Mon Apr 30, 02:05:00 PM EDT
I have a question, i've been noticing that many of ya'll have commented about tightening ya'lls beanies, what does this phrase mean exactly? I'm guessing it has to do with the believability of the plot lines, but it's just that I've never heard this phrase before
I've been watching TN off and on since I was a kid, so for me I usually take most TN plots at face value & don't question knowing that anything & everything is possible, but I was just wondering and appreciate any answers, so thanks in advance!
I've been watching TN off and on since I was a kid, so for me I usually take most TN plots at face value & don't question knowing that anything & everything is possible, but I was just wondering and appreciate any answers, so thanks in advance!
Permalink posted by : Mon Apr 30, 03:33:00 PM EDT
: Mon Apr 30, 03:33:00 PM EDT
PirateBabe, how do you create a link like that that doesn't show the url? And how do you make things live on this section? E-mail me, please.
Carlos, I hope you're tuning in tonight. There will be questions about this episode!
As to Rogelio rocking AP's world, I can easily imagine he knows the Venus Butterfly and a variety of other techniques. Didn't Maria once comment that he had a lot of girlfriends before becoming engaged to Vainessa? If they talked about him like the women of Sex & the City would have (I'm shocked to this day that none of them ever had salsa fever) I'm sure he had women throwing themselves in his path.
As to his attitude about AP being a virgin, it has been my experience and observation that a man who is confident of his abilities has no need of a virgin. It hadn't occurred to him that Cupcake was a virgin because she's over 20 and beautiful. Part of getting her was also about getting a trophy bride so that other men would envy rather than pity him.
Carlos, I hope you're tuning in tonight. There will be questions about this episode!
As to Rogelio rocking AP's world, I can easily imagine he knows the Venus Butterfly and a variety of other techniques. Didn't Maria once comment that he had a lot of girlfriends before becoming engaged to Vainessa? If they talked about him like the women of Sex & the City would have (I'm shocked to this day that none of them ever had salsa fever) I'm sure he had women throwing themselves in his path.
As to his attitude about AP being a virgin, it has been my experience and observation that a man who is confident of his abilities has no need of a virgin. It hadn't occurred to him that Cupcake was a virgin because she's over 20 and beautiful. Part of getting her was also about getting a trophy bride so that other men would envy rather than pity him.
oops forgot to sign my name on my post anon 3:33
jlk
jlk
Permalink posted by : Mon Apr 30, 03:36:00 PM EDT
: Mon Apr 30, 03:36:00 PM EDT
Hi jlk! The "beanie-tightening" refers to suspending disbelief. If a plot development just isn't credible, TN watchers wearing beanies can just tighten them a bit to help them gloss over the details and "not notice" that the story line doesn't quite make sense. It's a time-honored tradition here on Caray, Caray!
Several of our TN recappers and commenters really do own beanie caps knitted by one of our regular commenters late last year.
Several of our TN recappers and commenters really do own beanie caps knitted by one of our regular commenters late last year.
UA, I think I can answer your question about how to create a live link that doesn't show the URL, but I don't know how to contact you.
oh thanks audrey, i wasn't sure if it was just a caray blogspot thing or what, cool and funny though that recappers have a real beanie lol
jlk
jlk
Permalink posted by : Mon Apr 30, 05:36:00 PM EDT
: Mon Apr 30, 05:36:00 PM EDT
I have a gmail account. If you click on my profile photo and it doesn't link to that, please post to that effect.
Urban A,
Here's a formula for making links:
<a href="URL">link</a>
Be sure to leave the space between the first a and href. Thanks to Agnes for teaching me this.
Carlos
Here's a formula for making links:
<a href="URL">link</a>
Be sure to leave the space between the first a and href. Thanks to Agnes for teaching me this.
Carlos
UA, Carlos has posted the info you need. I wasn't sure whether I was allowed to post it here, which is why I wanted your email address.
UA, I just tried to click on your profile picture, and as far as I could tell, it didn't link to your gmail account.
Elvira and anyone else who mentioned this-I really wondered if sitting in that wheelchair all day contributed to the pulmonary embolism-one reason I thought this was a possibility was that article someone posted on Univision TN's making their actors work 10 hrs a day routinely-I can't believe how worried during this whole thing I was for Jorge Salinas. I was glad to see that little clip with him and Julian Gil; but it probably wasn't a recent clip-the actors look younger.
No, I think it was recently filmed. That clip with Julian Gil was (I think) part of the set of scenes Salinas did where he played opposite all the contestants of the beauty contest show (Belleza Latina or whatever it's called). He's playing a guy named "Hector" in a fictitious TN called "La que no podía ganar." LOL.
(I found the clips on YouTube too.) I couldn't understand what the woman says at the beginning of the clip, but this scene with Salinas and Gil seems like an extra bit of fun they had with "Hector."
Here's a clip with the series of scenes he did (with some feeble attempt to have a "plot") with all the ladies. I didn't get it all, but thought it was pretty cute, and of course he is awesome: here. As always, be warned to not look on YouTube for anything related to LQNPA (or in some cases, anything to do with Salinas or any of the cast!) as you might be subjected to spoilers. Though I don't see anything possibly spoilerific in the link I give.
(I found the clips on YouTube too.) I couldn't understand what the woman says at the beginning of the clip, but this scene with Salinas and Gil seems like an extra bit of fun they had with "Hector."
Here's a clip with the series of scenes he did (with some feeble attempt to have a "plot") with all the ladies. I didn't get it all, but thought it was pretty cute, and of course he is awesome: here. As always, be warned to not look on YouTube for anything related to LQNPA (or in some cases, anything to do with Salinas or any of the cast!) as you might be subjected to spoilers. Though I don't see anything possibly spoilerific in the link I give.
OK, thanks Carlos and Juanita. I was getting peevish at not being able to post links here.
On another note, as much as extra Jorge is always a great thing, I hate beauty pageants.
On another note, as much as extra Jorge is always a great thing, I hate beauty pageants.
I just saw your question UA about posting link without the url. Glad that Carlos and Juanita were able to assist in the answer.
Permalink posted by : Mon Apr 30, 07:46:00 PM EDT
: Mon Apr 30, 07:46:00 PM EDT
Well, obviously Vain didn’t know what to do with M-grito, at least she was not planning to commit a murder. Her idea was to find him, to abduct him and later to see what could be done to him. Vain and M-grito together would be a Mexican version of The Ransom of Red Chief - lol))). Hate the kid, really. When Effer told the boy was Rog’s I just yelled into the screen - hell, no! Why a smart and discreet man (I mean Rogelio) should have a downright stupid and chismoso child?
While watching the TN I often ask myself how AP managed to graduate at all. She is definitely not the sharpest knife. She doesn’t seem to be an avid reader, either. She barely read two books in more than 80 episodes – a Rog's book on horsemanship and a Goose’s book on pregnancy - why, I guess they must have a good library at the hacienda! I haven’t seen her deciding for herself; she always goes where others lead her, the only exception being her sudden rush to have sex with Goose despite MentiRosa’s consternation.
So, I am definitely not a RogeliAna, I would rather be a Rogelina (sans A). For me any woman could do as long as she is willing (and able) to make Rog happy. And that’is what he really needs, my poor darling.
BTW, somehow this story reminds me of the Phantom of the Opera. I almost see desperate Erik and young empty-headed Christine - the same age gap, the same intellectual and moral discrepancy.
Seagull
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While watching the TN I often ask myself how AP managed to graduate at all. She is definitely not the sharpest knife. She doesn’t seem to be an avid reader, either. She barely read two books in more than 80 episodes – a Rog's book on horsemanship and a Goose’s book on pregnancy - why, I guess they must have a good library at the hacienda! I haven’t seen her deciding for herself; she always goes where others lead her, the only exception being her sudden rush to have sex with Goose despite MentiRosa’s consternation.
So, I am definitely not a RogeliAna, I would rather be a Rogelina (sans A). For me any woman could do as long as she is willing (and able) to make Rog happy. And that’is what he really needs, my poor darling.
BTW, somehow this story reminds me of the Phantom of the Opera. I almost see desperate Erik and young empty-headed Christine - the same age gap, the same intellectual and moral discrepancy.
Seagull
Permalink posted by : Thu May 03, 10:44:00 PM EDT
: Thu May 03, 10:44:00 PM EDT
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