tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-253949922024-03-28T14:49:14.922-04:00Caray, Caray!English language recaps of Telenovelas.Rgv Chickhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08920684509923445590noreply@blogger.comBlogger1601500tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25394992.post-34951258839817462432021-11-18T13:00:00.005-05:002021-11-18T13:00:00.869-05:00Weekend Discussion, 11/18/21: Tribute to Enrique Rocha (1940-2021)On November 7th we lost a great senior actor who was the king of novela villains. His distinctive basso profundo voice will echo in our minds for a long time to come after a long career in television and film. Over thirty telenovelas and a number of films, both theatrical and television grace his resume. I could not find photos of every one of them, but I hope the followingUrban Anthropologisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18003222420557272302noreply@blogger.com12tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25394992.post-38867697294319319132021-08-13T12:01:00.026-04:002023-12-05T10:34:51.904-05:00Weekend Discussion 8/13/21: Toxic Mothers, 4th Edition It's
been a while since the previous edition of this important class of
character. These are the most poisonous women we ever meet in our
favorite adult stories. They inflict irreparable damage sometimes
for envy, sometimes for greed, and always for control. Their
favorite weapons are all psychological, so they are more lethal than
their male counterparts. I have seen all these, but I Urban Anthropologisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18003222420557272302noreply@blogger.com17tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25394992.post-53852065455901141982020-09-26T14:00:00.003-04:002020-09-26T16:06:54.543-04:00Weekend Discussion 9/26/20: Crimes of Fashion, 8th Edition featuring Prominent Medical PersonnelIt's
that time again! With fall fashion coming into full bloom it's time
for us to look at the fashion felonies and misdemeanors of our
favorite people. This is our special Medical Community edition. In
some cases the crime is more about how inappropriate the clothing is
for where or when it is worn.:
Constanza
Castillo makes a compromise in a form-fitting dress with sheer
overlays... in Urban Anthropologisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18003222420557272302noreply@blogger.com15tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25394992.post-73665762602761610172020-09-10T12:00:00.005-04:002020-09-28T09:59:18.899-04:00Weekend Discussion, Sept. 10, 2020: The Evolution of TelenovelasThe following topic is
brought to you from someone who has been “away” for a few years (since 2015??).
Please help me in welcoming back HELLASHELLE!!!
Hi CarayCaray! Former returning Patio Peep here, eager to get
your opinions on a Weekend Discussion: The Evolution of Telenovelas. As someone
who has watched a good number of TNs over decades, but has been away from TNs
for a few years, I Rgv Chickhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08920684509923445590noreply@blogger.com49tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25394992.post-38570300539255713342020-09-03T12:45:00.002-04:002020-09-28T09:55:37.501-04:00WEEKEND DISCUSSION: A RECIPE FOR A GOOD (OR NOT SO GOOD) TN
Patio Peeps, I'm having a hard time coming up with new topics for weekend discussions. Being that said...
Anita led us through a
discussion of the telenovela kitchens and food—para lambarse los dedos (finger
lickin’ good)! For this week’s
discussion, let’s bring forth some of the recipes, snacks and even some nice “spirits”
that we here on Caray! Caray! have cherished and delightedRgv Chickhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08920684509923445590noreply@blogger.com10tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25394992.post-1481712650689121982020-08-27T13:06:00.003-04:002020-09-07T12:32:26.635-04:00WEEKEND DISCUSSION: SIZZLIN' HOT...OR MATCHED FOR NAUGHT?? My patio peeps, I have suddenly become a fan
of People en Español; they have some
really good stuff (though in Spanish). The following topic was inspired by an
article written by pilarnewyorking
and
much of the information is also from that writer. So let’s get started with THE
HOTTEST COUPLES EVER!!
The first couple
mentioned is William Lavy and Maite Perroni in Cuidado con el Ángel whichRgv Chickhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08920684509923445590noreply@blogger.com14tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25394992.post-4789639598715065242020-08-20T11:40:00.008-04:002020-09-07T12:30:50.893-04:00WEEKEND DISCUSSION, Aug. 20, 2020: AS THE STOMACH TURNS…Nope, not talking about
food, but it could pertain to how we feel about the food we just ate after we
see some of the villains in our gone but not forgotten TNs. Yes, yes, yes, we
have already talked about the worst villains, but in this discussion page, I
want you to dig into your memory cells and think of those villains, not
necessarily the main antagonist, but those supporting characters who Rgv Chickhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08920684509923445590noreply@blogger.com22tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25394992.post-37492548597754354322020-08-13T12:04:00.000-04:002020-08-13T22:44:28.481-04:00More Coming in 2020-2021!!Good Day, Caraymates!!
There’s news of some TNs on the horizon! Two of the TNs
are soon to air in Mexico, so it is my hopes that Univision will follow soon
after because they do look promising. Here are some (short) details…
La Mexicana y el Güero
– PRODUCED BY NICANDRO DÍAZ GONZÁLEZ
Premieres
on Las Estrellas on Aug. 17th at 10:30PM
“La Mexicana y el Güero” is an upcoming Rgv Chickhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08920684509923445590noreply@blogger.com20tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25394992.post-82364557434868405972020-08-07T12:01:00.002-04:002020-08-24T14:31:33.284-04:00WEEKEND DISCUSSION 8/6/20: Hot, Smokin' Hot, Hotter Than a Stolen Tamale
This Weekend Discussion is brought to you by Adriana Noel, from a location far away, and yet so near and dear to our Caray hearts.
As you might have guessed, I'm not talking about the weather...
There are many valid, commendable, inspiring reasons to watch telenovelas. Learn Spanish, bonding moment with a family member, be part of the wonderful Caray Caray community, get entertained byAdriana Noelhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15929214572609141365noreply@blogger.com31tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25394992.post-22782445155078602072020-07-31T17:15:00.001-04:002020-08-09T16:23:06.363-04:00WEEKEND DISCUSSION 7/30/20: Who Can Resist a Wedding, Especially if it Goes Wrong - Bodas Interrupti
Urban Anthropologist (and I draw on her expertise again and
again) graced us with Weekend Discussions of Weddings and Bodas Interrupti.
Since I couldn’t find a Part II for the latter, I’ve elected to review and
update Bodas Interrupti for this weekend. There also seems to be a trend where
the HEA not always ends with a sumptuous wedding. Do Carayers miss those
gorgeous wedding scenes full of Unknownnoreply@blogger.com24tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25394992.post-86035707299152738512020-07-24T16:02:00.000-04:002020-08-09T16:18:32.710-04:00WEEKEND DISCUSSION 7/23/20: The Producers and Their Works
PRODUCERS TELENOVELOGRAPHIES
What do you think of the executive producers and their
works? Have they gotten better as their body of work grew? Have they faded or
taken an easier route (remakes) to the screen? What do you think of the Winners of the Best
Telenovelas for different years? Do you agree? I offered my own opinion in some
cases. Are the "less than best" attributed to them, the Unknownnoreply@blogger.com33tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25394992.post-13750834838048752102020-07-09T16:51:00.005-04:002020-07-31T11:44:53.771-04:00WEEKEND DISCUSSION 7/9/20: Where Have All The Padres Gone?
It has been somewhat noticeable in the last few years—and dozens
of telenovelas— that the importance of religious guides as dispensers of spiritual
wisdom, salve and balm have largely disappeared from telenovela stories. If
they appear at all, they are rarely seen and often in lighter, shorter roles,
like presiding over a wedding. What could this mean?
Where is a Padre Hottie (Diego Unknownnoreply@blogger.com8tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25394992.post-82688017535552416152020-07-02T16:08:00.000-04:002020-07-31T11:44:35.317-04:00WEEKEND DISCUSSION 7/2/20: Telenovela Kitchens and Food
How important are kitchens and food in Caray’s favorite
Mexican telenovelas?
Are they really reflective of the current cuisine, or only
in the eyes of the writers and producers?
COCHINITA PIBIL WITH RED ONIONS
What about
telenovelas de época? Did anyone cook and serve meals in Amor Real, Pasion or Alborada? Ah, but then there is El Hotel de los Secretos, the Mexican
Unknownnoreply@blogger.com20tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25394992.post-4206340355026721872020-06-25T08:00:00.000-04:002020-07-31T11:48:27.091-04:00WEEKEND DISCUSSION 6/25/20: "My amor, por favor" - the language of telenovelasHello, my lovely Caray mates!
In a previous Weekend Discussion, many of you mentioned as the main reason for starting to watch novelas the need to learn Spanish. For me it was the other way around, I only learned Spanish because I started watching novelas, as a ten year old.
I never really needed to use the language until a year or so ago, when I changed jobs. Working in a hotel you're in Adriana Noelhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15929214572609141365noreply@blogger.com35tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25394992.post-31946216108721020232020-06-18T10:00:00.000-04:002020-08-09T16:10:03.908-04:00WEEKEND DISCUSSION 6/18/20: Evils and Anvils…Too Much? Too Little?
Picture provided by Doris!
In 70 BC, when writing about law and crime, Marcus Tullius Cicero opined, “Let the punishment be proportionate to the offenses.” And how many times has that happened (or not) in Telenovelalandia?
We can identify villains from the inception of the TNs and OH! how we tend to grit our teeth and throw nerfazos at them; though we Rgv Chickhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08920684509923445590noreply@blogger.com21tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25394992.post-91074470946734974062020-06-10T08:26:00.003-04:002020-06-29T12:54:22.307-04:00WEEKEND DISCUSSION 6/10/20: La adicción a las telenovelas
In which we have another telenovelalandia discussion while we adapt to the outdoor climate. Summer's heat and humidity have arrived and we give thanks for air-conditioning. Walking out the front door, these past few days, are like being at the beach. Warm, humid, breezy. Thank you (not!) tropical depression Cristobal.
List your doris.http://www.blogger.com/profile/09502531638697549920noreply@blogger.com37tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25394992.post-64554909870437319982020-06-03T09:40:00.000-04:002020-08-04T12:55:49.980-04:00WEEKEND DISCUSSION 6/3/20: The Toddlers, Tots, Tweens & Teens of Telenovelalandia
(Sorry for the alliterative title. Blame coffee... ☕
And I hope I've posted this correctly.
Disclaimer: Patio team captains, please go in and change whatever needs to be changed, or let me know, so I can do it.)
While some telenovelas have children as the main trope/plot propeller of the series, other telenovelas have children as secondary
characters.&doris.http://www.blogger.com/profile/09502531638697549920noreply@blogger.com28tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25394992.post-55598652784854852132020-05-28T10:59:00.001-04:002020-06-29T12:47:39.467-04:00WEEKEND DISCUSSION 5/28/20: Best and Most UnBelievable BEANIE Moments
Beanie - compliments of Doris
There always comes a time (or many times) in
a telenovela that some things are just hard to believe and even harder to
swallow. Someone conveniently finds a clue to a murder, a crime, infidelity or
any other type of wrong-doing; or someone is at the right place at the right
time…so many other “convenient" things happen! I’m not sure who, when or how the
Rgv Chickhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08920684509923445590noreply@blogger.com16tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25394992.post-14077574915450209732020-04-25T08:51:00.002-04:002020-08-04T13:03:30.544-04:00WEEKEND DISCUSSION 4/25/20: Karmageddon for the guilty in Me Declaro Culpable
It's
that time again, amigos!. There is a lot of guilt to go around in
this cuna de locos.* Too much to resolve in the last dozen
episodes. Not to mention that anything with a title like this will
have lots of consequences for its denizens' actions.
As
usual, this will be a two-part question:
What
fate do you think they deserve?
What
do you think the writers will do to these perverse Urban Anthropologisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18003222420557272302noreply@blogger.com12tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25394992.post-44259133204483440952020-04-10T11:27:00.000-04:002020-08-09T16:07:45.667-04:00WEEKEND DISCUSSION 4/10/20: Crimes of Fashion, 7th Edition
It's
been quite a while since we've gotten out the kitty litter to sling
at the guilty parties in the world of fashion crimes. I anticipate a
chorus of meows and a few hisses at some of these:
Silly neckwear is not limited to people who can't afford better.
The military theme is not Isabel's best look.
Rather frumpy dress for a resort wedding, isn't it?
Not exactly an officeUrban Anthropologisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18003222420557272302noreply@blogger.com15tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25394992.post-81376175091752040002019-11-23T16:10:00.000-05:002019-12-06T13:45:04.029-05:00Weekend Discussion 11/23/19: Karmageddon for the Reptiles of Cuna de Lobos
I
have concluded that the better title for this tale would have been
Abismo de Serpientes. It would seem to me that anyone
entering the territory of Catalina Creel is as much in danger as if
he were entering Ilha da Queimada Grande. Wolves are monogamous,
social, and warm-blooded. They love their young. They are the
ancestors of and reproductively compatible with our beloved dogs.
Urban Anthropologisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18003222420557272302noreply@blogger.com18tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25394992.post-13393910388734171892019-10-30T11:27:00.002-04:002019-10-30T11:27:20.413-04:00Discussion, 10/30/19: Fabrica de Sueños, Televisa's Failure?
The
excellent La Usurpadora and the much-anticipated Cuna
de Lobos were part of a Televisa initiative to present lavish
25-episode productions of past classics by the network. What
mystifies me is the reason behind some of these, as I have seen most
of them. The Wikipedia page listed the rest of them in this order:
Rubi
(this will be a sequel of the 2004 series, (itself a remake;
Urban Anthropologisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18003222420557272302noreply@blogger.com14tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25394992.post-87850712222674547502018-03-23T15:00:00.000-04:002018-03-23T17:14:53.717-04:00Weekend Discussion, 3/23/18: Por Amar Sin Ley or L.A. Law's Twin
Por Amar Sin Ley or L.A.
Law's Twin
Back when we were playing Televisa
Remake games (click the label “weekend” below for list) we didn't
think of L.A. Law as a possibility. Obviously someone
did because this series certainly feels like it. Most of the
emsemble-cast characters have counterparts, there is a parade of
clients some of whom are symbolic of social issues, and the
relationships Urban Anthropologisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18003222420557272302noreply@blogger.com35tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25394992.post-54404404940431048712018-03-03T14:34:00.001-05:002018-04-15T17:12:05.408-04:00Por Amar Sin Ley – Dramatis Personae Starts Monday 3/5/18 10PM EST
I didn't change anything except
grammar errors and pronoun errors that occur in Google Translate.
However, I have some doubts regarding descriptions such as that of
characters' ages, which I left as given. If this information is accurate we will get a few
people being cast against type so this could be very interesting.
RICARDO BUSTAMANTE (David Zepeda)
Attractive lawyer specializedUrban Anthropologisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18003222420557272302noreply@blogger.com29tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25394992.post-2776104759545848622018-02-16T21:37:00.001-05:002018-04-15T11:47:36.304-04:00Weekend Discussion 2/16/18: Karmageddon for the Tempted – Caer en Tentacion
Karmageddon
for the Tempted – Caer en Tentacion
The
evil ones of this tale are long overdue for punishment, folks. Let's
talk about what the writers are likely to do and what we'd do
ourselves. This is all up to Episode 93:
Andres
Becker / Arath de la Torre – The Beast
Guilty
of promoting prostitution involving borderline jailbait girls,
possible paedophilia, blackmail, Urban Anthropologisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18003222420557272302noreply@blogger.com21tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25394992.post-14016038350505526902017-09-29T08:43:00.001-04:002020-08-04T13:09:20.778-04:00Weekend Discussion 9/29/17: Toxic Sisters
I've often said that series villains
are far more effective when they are related to the protagonists and
between members of the same generation there is nothing like sisters
of similar age, whether the issue is over the hero or an inheritance.
If women had been on the stage in Shakespeare's time he would have
created toxic ones too, because the emotional stakes would have still
been higher Urban Anthropologisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18003222420557272302noreply@blogger.com31tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25394992.post-89638192451042992002017-08-18T20:30:00.000-04:002020-08-04T13:07:07.504-04:00Weekend Discussion: Karmegeddon in the Capital: La Candidata
Throughout
history there have been many career politicians since Roman times.
Some become such because of a need to serve their people and others
only for the power it gives them. They often visit the same sick
need for power over the people in their private lives.
Those
who abuse the trust of the people deserve the worst punishment
available. The only problem is that sometimes it Urban Anthropologisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18003222420557272302noreply@blogger.com9tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25394992.post-56800179572736340382017-06-19T09:30:00.003-04:002019-09-13T16:07:01.496-04:00QEPD Dead - Antonio Medellín at 75 Muere el primer actor
You'll remember him in his last role as the rich farmer who wanted to marry Ana Lucia in Tres Veces Ana.
Jardinera654http://www.blogger.com/profile/06712072297792195076noreply@blogger.com8tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25394992.post-90258474156344201342017-05-19T11:37:00.001-04:002017-05-19T11:37:29.674-04:00Weekend Discussion, 5/19/17: Toxic Mothers, Round III
Now
that we're past Mother's Day, it's time to review some of those that
are undeserving of such honor. Do any of them come up to the level
of Catalina Creel of Cuna de Lobos? Let's talk about
this:
Character
(Actress): Barbara Greco (Lucero)
Series:
Mañana es Para Siempre (2008)
Crimes
Punishable by Man's Law: Murder (multiple counts), false
imprisonment
Crimes
Punishable Urban Anthropologisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18003222420557272302noreply@blogger.com14tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25394992.post-14230702055405598282017-05-12T12:30:00.000-04:002017-05-14T09:28:48.565-04:00Vino El Amor 5/12/17 Alternate Ending is Finally Dunne
It's
been a little while since I've visited wine country. It was time to
catch up with some of the people I've met there. While it's usually
a little more relaxed than the social scenes in the major cities,
it's not without tales with more juice than the grapes in Napa
Valley. Here is a section from my forthcoming book, More Grapes
of Wrath.
–
D.D.
It
was 1 AM and David Robles could Urban Anthropologisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18003222420557272302noreply@blogger.com24tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25394992.post-68777444841475477982017-05-12T12:15:00.000-04:002017-05-12T13:45:26.539-04:00Vino El Amor: Alternate Endings 5/11/17
Note: This will have multiple endings added as they come in. Mine is posted on its own only because I am extremely verbose. My apologies if that looks narcissistic. Julie's has been added.
Delilah's
ending
Luciana
realizes that the best thing is for her to finally put HERSELF first.
She tells her family that she realizes she needs to be away to grow
and pursue her Urban Anthropologisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18003222420557272302noreply@blogger.com21tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25394992.post-16492797967167476662017-04-15T11:57:00.000-04:002017-04-15T11:57:02.266-04:00Weekend Discussion 4/15/17: Vino el Amor Karmageddon comes to Sonoma
Who
would have thought that the snake from the Garden of Eden really
lurks in a vineyard? Well, it's time he bites the evil ones in this
pastoral tale. As usual we will ask the
following two questions:
What
do you think the writers will do to them?
What
do you think they really deserve?
Let's
start with the self-styled queen and her spawn:
Lillian
/ Azela Robinson
Urban Anthropologisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18003222420557272302noreply@blogger.com35tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25394992.post-81498724723396880352017-02-11T14:41:00.000-05:002017-09-01T13:33:07.138-04:00Upcoming Telenovelas: Stevey Tells Us What’s Happening in Mexico (2017)The following post is from Commenter Stevey, who shares all he knows about the new telenovelas in the
works in Mexico, that we may or may not see eventually in the U.S.
Hi everybody!! In the past, I've tried to put together
a little 'fact sheet' for you guys in regards to what's going on
telenovela-wise 'South of the Border', in the land where they come from!
As I realize that Vivi in DChttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09357919987442859670noreply@blogger.com51tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25394992.post-86622842000711075172016-10-27T16:14:00.003-04:002019-09-13T16:05:24.487-04:00THE TVA TELENOVELA AWARDS RESULTS!Appreciate your patience, everyone! After this, we can officially say so long to Tres Veces Ana. Thank you to those who voted and to those who lurked for entertainment.
Be sure to check out the real awards online!
Here are your Official TVA Telenovela Winners:
Best Beso: Ana Lucia & Santiago (unanimous)
Smooch El Mejor
Best Golpe: Ramiro punches Orlando (Unknownnoreply@blogger.com22tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25394992.post-68448759080276123302016-10-22T12:54:00.005-04:002019-09-13T16:04:59.534-04:00The TVA Novela AwardsTHE CARAY! CARAY! 2016 NOVELA AWARDS: Tres Veces Ana
This telenovela is going to probably sweep the actual awards shows. Let's have our own ceremony and give these actors and scenes their due credit. Vote below for your favorites and we'll tally the votes to reveal on Thursday which of them are the winners! Voting ends Wednesday night at 11:59 pm Eastern Standard Time.
And here are your Unknownnoreply@blogger.com25tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25394992.post-51091987844775370122016-09-23T14:00:00.000-04:002016-09-23T14:42:04.393-04:00Tres Veces Ana: Karmageddon Awaits!
It's
time for Karmageddon to strike and this is probably the longest list
of the deserving. So let's not waste any time. The same two
questions:
What
do you think the writers will do to them?
What
do you think they deserve?
Ana
Leticia Alvarez de Castillo / Angelique Boyer
Guilty
of causing accident leading to the death of her parents and
consequences to both sisters, Urban Anthropologisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18003222420557272302noreply@blogger.com56tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25394992.post-34588722868353748122016-08-20T07:34:00.002-04:002016-08-20T09:36:44.014-04:00Weekend Discussion: Crimes of Fashion, Fifth Edition
When in the course of human events it becomes necessary to point out severe fashion felonies, you can always count on the staff of your established fashion -- and gossip -- magazines to point fingers and name names.
Believe me, we love doing this.
-- Susanna Cervantes-Quixote
Fashion Editor, Cosmopolitan en Espanol.
This looks more like rebelling against fashion.
Necklaces Urban Anthropologisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18003222420557272302noreply@blogger.com33tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25394992.post-38148013576092662652016-06-10T22:21:00.002-04:002016-06-10T22:21:58.365-04:00Weekend Activity: The Televisa Remake Game (Classic Movies Edition)
In the last week
I've been watching some great classic movies, so I've decided to
revive something we had fun with in the past, The Televisa Remake
Game. The rules:
Pick
a classic movie, any genre. Title translation optional.
Give
your dream cast for the Televisa Remake you would
produce. Actors currently under contract to Telemundo are also
invited to the Urban Anthropologisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18003222420557272302noreply@blogger.com22tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25394992.post-52916867999372453622016-04-08T16:00:00.000-04:002020-06-08T17:40:18.746-04:00Karmageddon for the Rich and Shameless: Pasión y Poder 4/8/16
I
have always loved the concept of poetic justice, of people getting
the fate they deserve. This does not often happen among those who
can buy their way out of it or get someone else to do it for them.
Many – if not most – who can do this have no conscience about it.
Few feel any regret for their actions or remorse for the
consequences; most that do are too late to do more than pick upUrban Anthropologisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18003222420557272302noreply@blogger.com32tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25394992.post-89503542931856377472016-03-25T12:38:00.000-04:002016-03-25T15:22:36.875-04:00Weekend Discussion: Crimes of Fashion, 4th Edition 3/25/16
There
is so much Stürm
und Drang among the denizens of the DF upper crust that it seemed
appropriate to understand why these emotional conflicts exist. A few of
the women in the midst of this conflict might have made their lives
better – in their own minds – with better fashion choices. It
was only the sudden death of Monserrat Moret that made Nina Perez de
Montenegro the main focus of this Urban Anthropologisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18003222420557272302noreply@blogger.com10tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25394992.post-91421087395671879322016-02-19T13:57:00.006-05:002016-02-19T13:57:51.273-05:00Weekend Discussion: Crimes of Fashion, 3rd Edition 2/19/16
It's time once again to pause from
the scandalous behavior and outrageous fortunes among those with both
to look once again at what they often don't see: Fashion Felonies.
Many people look in the mirror and don't see the big picture. For
the rich and shameless this results in gossip that some choose to
ignore at their social peril. Public image once meant something to
these people. Don't Urban Anthropologisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18003222420557272302noreply@blogger.com12tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25394992.post-45119042383187938532016-01-29T12:00:00.000-05:002016-01-29T13:08:48.736-05:00Karmageddon Discussion: Muchacha Italiana Viene a Casarse 11/26/16
Let's make pasta primavera and open some vino for this one because we deserve it.
It's
time to figure out what tricks the Televisa writers will pull on us
this time. After what happened with Mi Corazón es Tuyo I am
seriously concerned that most of the nasties of this series will get off
without any relevant punishment, but we can at least vent here about
what should happen to them. Let's Urban Anthropologisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18003222420557272302noreply@blogger.com18tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25394992.post-80416039045599580142015-12-18T04:00:00.000-05:002015-12-24T14:38:48.846-05:00Weekend Discussion: Yo No Creo en los Hombres -- Karmageddon!
Karmageddon
comes to DF this time for the devil's own in Yo No Creo en los
Hombres. We've had a very interesting collection of villains
and top performances by the actors. Due to the nature and pace of
this story, I've delayed this until today and this is updated
through last evening's episode. As usual, we ask two questions:
What
do you think the writers will do to these low-lifes?Urban Anthropologisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18003222420557272302noreply@blogger.com21tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25394992.post-47314681756373058612015-12-11T12:00:00.000-05:002020-07-21T15:26:01.482-04:00Weekend Discussion: Recap Authors, What Series Was Your Biggest Challenge?
This is also a forum for recap authors to talk about how we go about what we do.
I'm going into my fifth year of writing for this blog and most of it has been fun and interesting. My first series was La Fuerza del Destino in 2011 where I caught most of the juicy episodes about the character we called Merry Piece and I felt privileged for that. There were a few truly great Urban Anthropologisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18003222420557272302noreply@blogger.com44tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25394992.post-76273793590814862342015-11-13T12:00:00.000-05:002015-12-13T19:37:07.326-05:00Weekend Discussion: Crimes of Fashion, 2nd Edition
It
is my information from colleagues (including the late Richard
Blackwell) that fashion felonies are the cocktail enjoyed prior to
the aperitif of society peccadilloes and the entrée
of scandal and murder. It is always satisfying to know that the
moneyed classes are as human – or inhuman – as anyone else in
their roles in their own downfalls. To this end, the paparazzi at
Vanidades have Urban Anthropologisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18003222420557272302noreply@blogger.com21tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25394992.post-2937923915314382862015-10-23T13:00:00.000-04:002015-11-14T12:29:06.391-05:00Weekend Discussion: Novela Cliche Directory
I decided once upon a time to compile these and here is what I've collected so far. What can you add to this?
Most are self-explanatory.
1
Amor a primera vista
2
Llamada de la sangre to sense kinship
3
Sudden blindness
4
“How you have made me suffer”
5
Llamada de la sangre to sense danger
6
Prayer Urban Anthropologisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18003222420557272302noreply@blogger.com61tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25394992.post-46933840048102990002015-10-02T14:00:00.000-04:002015-10-25T15:32:50.898-04:00Weekend Discussion: Viva Italia!
Italian
Culture, Cinema, and Cuisine
Muchacha
Italiana Viene a Casarse is creating such lively discussions
lately I thought it appropriate to have a weekend topic devoted to
all things Italian. This is such a big topic that detail will be
impossible, so I'll just bring up the main points and let the rest of
you contribute. What Italian things do you love?
Art and Architecture
How
Urban Anthropologisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18003222420557272302noreply@blogger.com23tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25394992.post-37844823928433256562015-09-25T11:22:00.000-04:002015-10-25T15:32:34.823-04:00Weekend Discussion: Your Favorite MoviesWhat movies do you love? Classics? Trendy new? Epics? Horror? Film Noir? Enquiring minds want to know!Urban Anthropologisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18003222420557272302noreply@blogger.com43tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25394992.post-37008238815280930332015-09-18T15:14:00.002-04:002015-10-25T15:32:23.896-04:00Weekend Discussion: Unlikely Couples
Who's your favorite unlikely couple from past novelas?
Back in 2003 Univision had a lot of them and held a poll. The winning couple by a landslide was Martin and Princesa from Rebeca:
For those who didn't see it, Martin Garcia (Pablo Montero) was the headwaiter in an antro while Princesa Izaguirre (Gaby Espino) was a spoiled trust-fund brat. They met accidentally when he Urban Anthropologisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18003222420557272302noreply@blogger.com17tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25394992.post-48678806012517117972015-09-12T06:46:00.002-04:002015-10-25T15:31:57.317-04:00Weekend Discussion: Your Favorite Classic Novelas
How long are you watching novelas? What are your favorite classic ones? What do you love most about them? Would you like to have a Classic Novela Channel?
I deeply miss good novelas de epoca. Those had style, substance, great performances, and great cinematography. While sometimes the costumes and hair were completely wrong (the Urban Anthropologisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18003222420557272302noreply@blogger.com46tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25394992.post-56758793272641619302015-08-07T12:00:00.001-04:002020-10-05T10:24:48.849-04:00Weekend Discussion: First Annual Televisa Perversity Pageant (Men's Division)
We're
getting into some seriously poisonous stuff with our latest round of Televisa villains. Lately it seems that the growing influence of male writers
is resulting in more perverse male villains than we used to know 10
years ago. Therefore we are now in the finals of our first-annual
Perversity Pageant (Men's Division). Who should get the Crown of Fire?
Here
are the four Urban Anthropologisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18003222420557272302noreply@blogger.com12tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25394992.post-56399230073083838472015-07-30T20:30:00.000-04:002015-10-25T15:30:16.047-04:00Weekend Discussion: Karmageddon Comes to Santa Lucia (La Sombra del Pasado)
We're
coming close to the end and the crap is flying so here is the
all-important discussion of the Karmageddons awaiting the evil ones
in our story. As usual we will ask the following two questions:
What
do you think the writers will do to them?
What
do you think they really deserve?
Contrary to my usual practice I am posting my thoughts in this article because of my current computer Urban Anthropologisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18003222420557272302noreply@blogger.com43tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25394992.post-19706594166877628402015-07-10T17:00:00.000-04:002015-10-25T15:29:53.824-04:00Weekend Discussion: Novela Stars in English!Before we knew them as novela characters -- stereotyped or otherwise -- some were in English-language movies and TV. Just to mention two here:
Elsa Cardenas (1935-- )
We know her as the Mother Superior in Fuego en la Sangre, Jovita in Lo Imperdonable, but who remembers her from 1963 as a hot lady matador competing with the equally hot Bond chick Ursula Andress for.... Elvis?
Urban Anthropologisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18003222420557272302noreply@blogger.com6tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25394992.post-35840147668706020062015-07-03T12:01:00.000-04:002015-10-25T15:29:16.963-04:00Weekend Discussion: Life Imitates Art Imitates Life? Revisited
Note: This is a re-publishing of an August 2013 discussion that I think is relevant because I wonder to what degree the outdated attitudes get revived in remake after remake. Inspired by a line of dialogue in last night's episode of LSdP.
Do you think that telenovelas reflect or influence human behavior? A good friend of long standing is under the bizarre impression that in Urban Anthropologisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18003222420557272302noreply@blogger.com19tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25394992.post-36364587679667244152015-06-13T08:36:00.003-04:002015-10-25T15:28:41.446-04:00Weekend Discussion: Love -- Reality or Poetic Delusion?
I actually know a few people who don't think love exists at all. Some of them had highly toxic parents and a couple of them have had disappointing love lives (one I suspect never had one). A few other people I know are so confounded by differences between men and women they refuse to believe it is possible to understand the other at all. It's possible that they are too Urban Anthropologisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18003222420557272302noreply@blogger.com8tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25394992.post-39240437867079009072015-05-29T23:00:00.000-04:002015-10-25T15:28:18.742-04:00Weekend Discussion: Have the Writers Declared a Competition on Perversity?
I had to post this right after this
evening's episode of La Sombra del Pasado because I was
ready to explode at Severiano slobbering all over Aldonza. I was
actually screaming at the screen and I never do that. I've seen a
lot of nasty horror movies and was beginning to become immune to some
of the evil and gore in them. However, rape trauma is still
something that makes my blood Urban Anthropologisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18003222420557272302noreply@blogger.com55tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25394992.post-11035683979775530632015-05-08T08:10:00.003-04:002015-10-25T15:27:05.928-04:00Weekend Discussion: Do Humans Need Love?
Poets,
dramatists, composers, and artists have all made careers of
glorifying Love. We glue ourselves to our screens night after night
watching novela characters trying to make sense of this emotion that
other characters either know less about than they do or....
intentionally attempt to deceive them about. However while writers,
composers, singers, and actors do their best to promote LoveUrban Anthropologisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18003222420557272302noreply@blogger.com21tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25394992.post-69758886246352331052015-04-24T08:39:00.002-04:002015-10-25T15:26:37.906-04:00Weekend Discussion: Misogyny and Sexism Need an Executioner
I'm in step with those who are watching Amores Con Trampa but still catching up to La Sombra del Pasado (cap 25) and Que Te Perdone Dios (cap 34), but the sexism is getting to me. I totally get that rural environments are often more sexist than urban ones and what's going on in ACT makes a certain amount of sense. However in the 21st century are the other two even close to reality Urban Anthropologisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18003222420557272302noreply@blogger.com44tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25394992.post-23725782210303567482015-04-11T10:17:00.000-04:002015-10-25T15:25:33.977-04:00Weekend Discussion Your Favorite Actors' Best Performances
This was suggested two weeks ago. Pick your favorite actor and his best performance. All character types are fair game; you can choose one of each. I'll start. I might add photos later from your entries in between catching up on the two big dramas currently airing.
My favorite alpha male protagonist is Jorge Salinas and his best performance ever was in La Que No Podia Urban Anthropologisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18003222420557272302noreply@blogger.com72tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25394992.post-20204302808648305952015-03-21T09:21:00.000-04:002015-10-25T15:24:55.675-04:00Weekend Discussion and Writing Assignment for the Brave; to be continued next week
Since
most of us are tired of remakes but the networks keep doing them,
let's give our networks something to really think
about. Continued from last week.
There
have been novelas in the past that were based on classics. The
Count of Monte Cristo has been done numerous times both
in different countries in period and modern dress, and often under
typical novela-style titles.Urban Anthropologisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18003222420557272302noreply@blogger.com29tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25394992.post-66910272316254162022015-03-06T09:06:00.001-05:002017-04-17T15:33:04.810-04:00Weekend Discussion: Karmageddon Awaits on Mi Corazón es Tuyo
OK,
amigos, the finale will air on 3/27 and we have work to do! Our
moral and mortal minds need to decide what is going to happen to the
villains of our modern fairy tale. Since this is not standard
(melo)drama, part of this will be a challenge. Rap sheets are updated as of Capitulo 161.
As usual, we have two
decisions to make:
What
would you want to see happen to these villains Urban Anthropologisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18003222420557272302noreply@blogger.com24tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25394992.post-7593282486215190532015-03-01T10:07:00.000-05:002015-10-25T15:24:22.952-04:00Weekend Discussion: Premios TVyNovelas 2015
I have to admit due to my tech issues I haven't seen most of these and there were two I bailed on during the first week, one of which has me scratching my head. What are your picks this year?
Best Telenovela
"El Color De La Pasión" (Roberto Gomez Fernández)
"Lo Que La Vida Me Robó" (Angelli Nesma)
"Que Pobres Tan Ricos" (Rosy Ocampo)
"Mi Corazón Es Tuyo" (Juan Osorio)
"Yo No Creo En LosUrban Anthropologisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18003222420557272302noreply@blogger.com110tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25394992.post-2320642013124714422015-02-19T17:59:00.001-05:002015-10-25T15:22:33.003-04:00Weekend Discussion: Music
What music do you love? Are you into classical, jazz, Latin, World, etc? Do you go to live performances or do you just listen online or to recordings?
Enquiring minds want to know.Urban Anthropologisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18003222420557272302noreply@blogger.com30tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25394992.post-34166753273259830702015-01-30T23:40:00.000-05:002015-10-25T15:22:10.350-04:00Weekend Discussion: Videos for those who aren't into footballIf you aren't into football and don't care who wins the Super Bowl, here are some excellent items to choose from for weekend viewing. Open a bottle of your favorite wine, get some nice cheese, crusty bread, and fresh fruit and enjoy the finest drama -- or comedy -- to be found online.
Recommend that you click on the far right of the black bar for a larger viewing area.
Opera
Telenovelas Urban Anthropologisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18003222420557272302noreply@blogger.com6tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25394992.post-73616046166993997752015-01-23T08:43:00.001-05:002015-08-04T20:19:48.121-04:00Weekend Discussion: Cross-Cultural Infusions and the Future
Still working on the photo gallery, but a new topic emerged yesterday in the midst of discussing the Christmas episodes of Mi Corazon es Tuyo. It's been going on since the age of cinema and picked up speed after the emergence of television. How much faster is this happening now?
Probably about 15 years ago I heard physicist Michio Kaku talk about how in the future there will be Urban Anthropologisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18003222420557272302noreply@blogger.com15tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25394992.post-73210378215916801262015-01-17T08:18:00.000-05:002015-10-25T15:21:52.892-04:00Weekend Discussion: Food for the "Big Game"
It's off-topic, but I've been a little too busy lately to compile the photos I want for the next gallery.
Who is hosting or contributing to a Super Bowl party? I'm attending one for the first time and hope that my pasta and veggie and my bean salads will go over well. They were always a hit on St Patrick's Day.
What will you all be up to on Feb 1?
Urban Anthropologisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18003222420557272302noreply@blogger.com9tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25394992.post-61943611750337386492014-12-18T16:30:00.001-05:002020-10-05T10:25:15.207-04:00Weekend Discussion: Photo Gallery; Family Album, Volume 1
Don't you just love it when casting directors get it right? I love how novela producers often match up actors who look like they could share DNA as family members. This can't pretend to be a whole archive, but merely a first installment.
Mothers and Daughters
When we have mother-and-daughter stories we often get good matches whether or not the two characters get along. WhatUrban Anthropologisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18003222420557272302noreply@blogger.com16tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25394992.post-37131664000332198342014-12-12T15:53:00.000-05:002015-10-25T15:21:14.838-04:00Weekend Discussion: 2014 Novela FavesWhat are some of the 2014 faves of my Caray Mates? Some things like Lo Que La Vida Me Robo or Que Pobres Tan Ricos may come to mind. I will remind you guys about Mentir Para Vivir before it frayed haywire for the last few capitulos. My favorites were Por Siempre Mi Amor, De Que Te Quiero, Te Quiero, Quiero Amarte so far, Amorcito Corazon, Pasion and Las Vias del Amor during their repeticiones.Unknownnoreply@blogger.com50tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25394992.post-13842371230568707782014-11-27T20:48:00.000-05:002015-08-04T21:35:50.376-04:00Weekend Discussion: Black Friday and Retail Creep
By now most of us will have eaten our turkey, stuffing, etc., and are thinking about the next episodes of our favorite series or hanging with family or friends. How many of you are heading out to shop tonight?
About ten years ago when the early morning madness started a friend commented "In a few years we'll all be finishing our pumpkin pie and heading to the mall." And this year Urban Anthropologisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18003222420557272302noreply@blogger.com12tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25394992.post-21402561202542330202014-11-08T11:55:00.001-05:002015-08-04T21:36:51.985-04:00Weekend Discussion: Do Things In Novelas Change Your Life?
Has your taste changed in anything since you became a regular novela viewer? Did you find you love Latin music, did you want to try more Latin foods? Do you think nothing of shopping in the international aisle of your supermarket? Are La Costena and Goya products on your shelves or your shopping list?
Do you treat your family or friends differently? Do you Urban Anthropologisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18003222420557272302noreply@blogger.com28tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25394992.post-69307962258561999982014-10-10T15:07:00.000-04:002015-10-25T15:20:59.116-04:00Weekend Discussion: Past vs Present Telenovela Conventions: What's the best combination?
What would you rather see again vs what's happening now? What do you miss about novelas of 20 years ago?
Let's not get into discussions about series length; we have done that to death.
I personally would prefer scenes to be longer. Sometimes when watching novelas now I get whiplash from the quick scene changes after two or three lines of dialogue. It gives the illusion of Urban Anthropologisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18003222420557272302noreply@blogger.com23tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25394992.post-49270657932488023362014-10-04T13:26:00.000-04:002015-08-04T21:38:18.576-04:00Weekend Discussion: Sob Stories and Snob StoriesThe snobbery expressed in telenovelas reminds me of a lot of things I've witnessed in life. I've previously explained some of them, but the baby gift incident in Mi Corazon es Tuyo last night made me remember the following story:
My college buddy recently became a grandfather for the first time (I think he's freaking out about it). I remember when his older daughter was born his now-ex Urban Anthropologisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18003222420557272302noreply@blogger.com29tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25394992.post-16198665778313191962014-09-27T07:26:00.003-04:002015-10-25T15:20:21.915-04:00Weekend Discussion: The Galans of OperaI'm always comparing telenovelas and opera and they have more in common every day. And there are tons of great videos online to prove it.
It is no longer necessary just to be able to sing well; opera stars are now expected to be good actors and also to be hot. Today I will present a line-up of tenors. If there is adequate response, I'll do a sequel featuring baritones and Urban Anthropologisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18003222420557272302noreply@blogger.com25tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25394992.post-36029330664529404262014-09-13T11:10:00.001-04:002015-08-04T21:38:41.007-04:00Weekend Discussion: TaboosTelenovelas have been breaking a few taboos in recent times and the comments in this blog indicate that people's buttons are being pushed by some of these. What does it for you? What would you rather see?Urban Anthropologisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18003222420557272302noreply@blogger.com33tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25394992.post-25727327656917502872014-09-06T06:31:00.002-04:002015-08-04T16:04:29.570-04:00Weekend Discussion: What Are Novelas Teaching Viewers?Some recent discussions are provoking this question. What are viewers learning from novelas and what are they meant to learn instead?
La Malquerida is treading into some dangerous territory regarding misogyny and incest, La Gata is perhaps more heavily into class-consciousness than any of the others, and Mi Corazon es Tuyo shows us a large family about to explode over a marriage contractedUrban Anthropologisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18003222420557272302noreply@blogger.com23tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25394992.post-6021469960966789752014-08-22T14:11:00.001-04:002015-08-04T16:04:04.229-04:00Weekend Discussion: To the Manor Born -- How Much Does That Really Matter?
The class distinction that happens in telenovelas obviously fuels more than a couple of plot points per series. In the Americas there are no titles like those in Europe such as Sir or Dame for KBEs; Baron, Count, etc., in other countries, and there are equivalents in the Middle East. Here in the Americas it's usually about money or where you went to school.
In all our stories these Urban Anthropologisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18003222420557272302noreply@blogger.com13tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25394992.post-3132397607584255922014-08-01T15:30:00.000-04:002015-08-04T16:03:44.770-04:00Weekend Discussion: Ultimos Capitulos and What Drives Us Loco Now
Getting
the Right Balance
I
had a thought just as I got up yesterday morning about how in past
Ultimas Semanas discussions people have ranted about how ridiculous
it was to finish off all the villains in the last two or three
episodes. I agree, but now that we have a series where it's
happening across the last three weeks it feels like the pain is just
drawn out, like a prolonged attack of Urban Anthropologisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18003222420557272302noreply@blogger.com42tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25394992.post-22989610829636394052014-07-25T10:01:00.002-04:002020-10-05T10:35:12.534-04:00Weekend Discussion: Novela Genres; What is your preference?
Some people seem to be bailing out on Lo Que la Vida Me Robo because of the turn the story has taken. As long as Televisa (and other production companies) are in cost-cutting mode we can expect story extensions that do things like this one. I certainly will agree that doing this to a series that begins as a comedy without an advance set-up (such as we are probably getting in Mi Corazon es Urban Anthropologisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18003222420557272302noreply@blogger.com44tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25394992.post-17707869883481102502014-07-11T11:30:00.001-04:002020-10-05T10:39:37.708-04:00Weekend Discussion: Karmageddon in Aguazul (Lo Que la Vida Me Robo)
It's
that time again, amigos! Although this is a little early, the number
of bad guys in this tale is such that we already see the villains
turning on each other. Let's cut loose now and dish about what
should happen to the evil ones in our story. As previously, we
should think about it both ways:
What
do you think the writers will do to them?
What
do you think should happen to them?
Urban Anthropologisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18003222420557272302noreply@blogger.com36tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25394992.post-90217927733033369752014-06-28T07:41:00.003-04:002019-05-12T15:30:15.947-04:00Weekend Discussion: Your Favorite Novelas
For the benefit of any newbies who want to catch up on novela classics, what are your favorites and why?
I'm a fan of great novelas de epoca, so I start that list with the 1993 version of Corazon Salvaje:
What can I say? It has the late, great Eduardo Palomo as Juan del Diablo, the fabulous Edith Gonzales as his ladylove, and the younger (and then very sexy) Cesar Evora in a Urban Anthropologisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18003222420557272302noreply@blogger.com123tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25394992.post-76116782978767092862014-06-20T09:14:00.001-04:002015-08-04T16:01:26.451-04:00Weekend Discussion: Children and Secrets
In view of the recent trend in novelas to have children in the position of keeping secrets, I thought this an apt discussion point.
Lauro and Victoria had the secret of Alejandro being alive and he and Victor being in Aguazul (which has now been blown to pieces). Victoria still needs to keep the secret of the cell phone in Nadia's possession and we know that one won't last long. It Urban Anthropologisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18003222420557272302noreply@blogger.com11tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25394992.post-32365530182443341332014-06-14T01:09:00.003-04:002020-10-12T10:21:44.449-04:00Weekend Discussion: The Narcissism EpidemicNarcissism is one of the most common mental disorders of telenovela villains. Many people have a very simplistic definition of it: Muhammad Ali. His "I am the greatest" is how many people see narcissism. The sad truth is that it's far more complex than that.
Narcissists see themselves as the center of the universe. Everyone else exists for their purposes and Urban Anthropologisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18003222420557272302noreply@blogger.com27tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25394992.post-15189694953161528292014-06-06T13:45:00.004-04:002020-10-12T10:25:30.951-04:00Weekend Discussion: Crimes of FashionOne of the things inciting constant comment here is the fashion felonies committed by many female characters in novelas (or by the fashion consultants for the shows). It seems that femme fatale rivals and villanas are the biggest offenders, although heroines can be guilty, too. For our purposes today we will cover the villanas, particularly since we have such a stunning example in ourUrban Anthropologisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18003222420557272302noreply@blogger.com29tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25394992.post-77585905272568057232014-05-23T17:48:00.000-04:002015-10-25T15:19:30.378-04:00Weekend Discussion: TVyNovela Award ShowsBy CorazonSalvaje:
Hey I wanted to make a Weekend Discussion. Since you guys are
always saying the TVyNovelas Award Shows are rigged, we can discuss to
whom we'd give the prizes to.
(I'll start it like this.)
So I noticed you guys make remarks about the TVyNovelas
Award Shows which I have come to agree with. I feel as well that these
shows are unfair at times but the fairest I think Unknownnoreply@blogger.com25tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25394992.post-71400315258261371502014-05-17T10:21:00.000-04:002015-08-04T15:57:50.581-04:00Weekend Discussion: Karmageddon Thoughts
Let's start with a theme song for this (which in another sense is Pedro Medina's anthem).
We've had discussions in the past over this essential Televisa element. They always include elements of satisfaction or dissatisfaction we have with the writers' decisions. If the original audience in Mexico (Televisa) or the US (Telemundo) isn't satisfied with the villains' final ends I'm sureUrban Anthropologisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18003222420557272302noreply@blogger.com28tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25394992.post-35794866880926091562014-04-18T10:25:00.000-04:002015-08-04T21:41:30.827-04:00Weekend Discussion: Karmageddon Awaits!
Karmageddon
in Por Siempre Mi Amor
OK, with
17 or 18 hours to go on this story, it's time for this all-important
discussion. The villains in this tale are some of the vilest
excuses for human beings we've seen to date, so this will be lively.
As in a
previous discussion on another series, this will be a two-part
question:
What
fate do you think they deserve?
What
do you think Urban Anthropologisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18003222420557272302noreply@blogger.com29tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25394992.post-44917722718038796482014-04-12T14:03:00.001-04:002015-08-04T15:56:45.253-04:00Weekend Discussion: Novelas en Ingles?
Is this a viable idea?
There were two unsuccessful attempts a few years ago to do English-language novelas by two of the smaller networks. They failed for two reasons:
1. Poor acting, possibly due to poor writing
2. Not ready for prime time in terms of gringo viewing habits
The writing was so poor I can't even remember the titles of the programs. I viewed two or Urban Anthropologisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18003222420557272302noreply@blogger.com34tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25394992.post-52364275691413411462014-04-04T10:43:00.001-04:002015-08-04T15:56:29.472-04:00Weekend Discussion: Your Travels in Novela Territory
Here I mean traveling where novelas are produced. Who has been to Mexico, Columbia, Argentina, Spain, etc? Have these places met expectation? Did you have a good time? How was your Spanish?
All the standard questions being asked, including what you saw and ate!Urban Anthropologisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18003222420557272302noreply@blogger.com13tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25394992.post-72832053845432819342014-03-29T09:22:00.002-04:002015-08-04T15:56:15.444-04:00Weekend Discussion: Are Novelas Getting More Violent?
We've referenced this before, but with the recent incidents in Lo Que La Vida Me Robo, Mentir Para Vivir, and even the attempted rape in De Que Te Quiero Te Quiero we can't help but wonder whether novelas in general are going down a slippery slope that can't be tilted back.
In a previous discussion on this issue we seem to have come to the consensus that the rise of the narco stories came fromUrban Anthropologisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18003222420557272302noreply@blogger.com43tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25394992.post-42008497085469583242014-03-21T09:49:00.001-04:002015-08-04T15:55:30.806-04:00Weekend Discussion: Reality Check
Novela writers, we are
talking to you!
While we are forever comparing
telenovelas to fairy tales, they are set in real places with real
names and are populated with characters who have careers and jobs
that exist in the real world of today or yesteryear. Please get a
little more real about their lives, their work, and their problems.
Your audience is not a bunch of
ignorant peasants who Urban Anthropologisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18003222420557272302noreply@blogger.com38tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25394992.post-70668770145703201532014-03-07T22:51:00.001-05:002015-08-04T15:55:00.882-04:00Weekend Discussion: Your Favorite Novela...or novelas of all time. What are they and why are they your favorites? Do you favor a particular genre or is it the actors or authors that are the attraction?
Weigh in, amigos!Urban Anthropologisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18003222420557272302noreply@blogger.com92tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25394992.post-63486268596298702812014-02-21T07:52:00.001-05:002015-10-25T15:19:07.641-04:00Weekend Discussion: Photo Gallery; The Three Faces of Marital Discord
Not all of us have seen all three series of our current hot topic but here are photos from all three versions of the Caridad Bravo Adams tale that will probably see yet another version in our lifetimes:
Bodas de Odio (1983; 75 episodes)
l to r: Frank Moro as Jose Luis, Christian Bach as Magdalena, Miguel Palmer as Alejandro
I miss novelas de epoca; the clothes are usually so Urban Anthropologisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18003222420557272302noreply@blogger.com52tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25394992.post-59805426321673762852014-02-14T09:15:00.001-05:002015-08-04T15:54:12.399-04:00Weekend Discussion: Alpha Males
Much has been said among social anthropologists about the Ideal Female Face, shown here with Jessica Alba as the example:
However, after long observation, I have determined that there is an ideal male facial type that is very prominent among the alpha male types we encounter in entertainment. It consists of some combination of the following traits:
High forehead with Urban Anthropologisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18003222420557272302noreply@blogger.com42tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25394992.post-70889278650801904572014-02-07T19:59:00.003-05:002015-08-04T15:53:46.889-04:00Weekend Discussion: Mentir Para Vivir Karmageddon Awaits!
Not
all of these are left, but the bad guys we have certainly have it
coming. While lying is normally included on the list of crimes
against Divine Law, it will not be mentioned here because everyone is
guilty of that.
Muchas
gracias to Adriana Noel and 5Ft Latina for filling in what I didn't
catch. Now, what do you think should happen to these evil-doers and what do you think the Urban Anthropologisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18003222420557272302noreply@blogger.com9tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25394992.post-58633197385335629212014-01-31T11:00:00.000-05:002015-08-04T15:53:24.516-04:00Weekend Discussion: Controlling Mothers, Part II
Maternal Monsters, Part II
There are way more of these than
perhaps any other female villain because they can play so many cards
in the game of control. Guilt, money, religion; even sex isn't
exempt from their repertoire in their attempts to control their teen or
adult children. I was hoping to compile another Dirty Dozen, but
some of these are so spectacularly evil it just couldn't wait.
Urban Anthropologisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18003222420557272302noreply@blogger.com40tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25394992.post-67003159343930599452014-01-17T11:42:00.000-05:002015-08-04T15:52:15.166-04:00Weekend Discussion: Censorship, the Plague (Revisited)
Anthony Comstock, Father of Modern Censorship
Note:
This is a revised version of the article published here about a year
ago.
What's
the Point?
We
complain about it all the time among ourselves. We should be
complaining to the networks about this.
About
eight years ago I heard this subject covered on Anderson Cooper's
program in which comments were made about the body heat being
Urban Anthropologisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18003222420557272302noreply@blogger.com15tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25394992.post-22640621710047324882014-01-10T20:22:00.000-05:002015-08-04T15:51:35.202-04:00Weekend Discussion: Culture ShockWhat cultural head-scratchers get you every time you watch a novela?
I'd love to know whether men and women still interact as though it were the Victorian age. Mexican women go to college and have careers; shouldn't that have eliminated the ridiculous notion that they exist only for their men and their children? Despite it being a comedy, the sexism in Por Ella Soy Eva really was Urban Anthropologisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18003222420557272302noreply@blogger.com39tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25394992.post-43425011723634944302014-01-03T13:24:00.001-05:002015-08-04T15:51:16.340-04:00Weekend Discussion: Fix This Novela!
Holà, Caraymates!
We've
seen quite a few series that had something going on to make the
ratings department happy but... a serious flaw or two that earned
derision from critics or unsatisfied viewers. Some of these got
really bad – like Corazón Indomable. Others just
needed a tweak or two, like Doña Barbara,
If
you could fix a flawed novela, how would you do it? What general
Urban Anthropologisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18003222420557272302noreply@blogger.com34tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25394992.post-2759812927830769642013-12-27T07:58:00.002-05:002015-08-04T15:50:40.644-04:00Weekend Discussion: New Stars? New Stories? Or Both?
I've been seeing posts over the last
year or so about “We need new young stars” and we've had
discussions in the past about developing new stories for our maturing
favorites. I don't see this as an either/or, but perhaps as being a
dual issue.
Televisa stopped producing stories
directed at teens due to lowered ratings a few years ago. I'd
personally love to know whether that was because Urban Anthropologisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18003222420557272302noreply@blogger.com146tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25394992.post-64509761180271876932013-12-13T13:28:00.000-05:002015-08-04T15:50:10.403-04:00Weekend Discussion: Controversial Subjects
Tuesday's
capitulo of Lo Que La Vida Me Robó provoked over 100
comments regarding the marital rape scene that echoed Gone With
the Wind in many respects [GWTW's scene is still being
debated today]. This may not have been the ideal way for the
writers to handle the wedding night of our flawed but otherwise
sympathetic protagonists, but a lot of bytes are being seriously
inconvenienced in Urban Anthropologisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18003222420557272302noreply@blogger.com54tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25394992.post-59444998877642823412013-12-06T11:50:00.000-05:002015-08-04T15:49:00.995-04:00Weekend Discussion: When Good Novelas Go Bad
We've seen it happen more than once and
it seems to happen more often in recent times than in the past. A
novela begins on a great note and suddenly the characters behave
inconsistently or the story makes no sense. We're seeing this now
with Corazón
Indomable, and
with the last quarter of Porque
el Amor Manda
when we went from a comedy to a …. circus of evil. Real
head-scratchers and we Urban Anthropologisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18003222420557272302noreply@blogger.com83tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25394992.post-45744521942585812142013-11-08T19:44:00.000-05:002020-08-04T13:11:18.691-04:00Weekend Discussion: Karmageddon for La Tempestad and PEAM denizensI have basically ignored these two series for the most part because I'm not into comedies and because William Levy does nothing for me. However, since both of these are ending very shortly, the Karmageddons of their villains should be a hot topic that deserves its own discussion.
Let's start with Veronica of PEAM:
She's insane, jealous, selfish, controlling, sadistic, and a killer. Urban Anthropologisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18003222420557272302noreply@blogger.com15tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25394992.post-83470269303023070692013-11-01T12:57:00.001-04:002015-10-25T15:18:04.682-04:00Weekend Discussion: Remakes (Again? Por Supuesto....)While I am looking forward to Lo Que La Vida Me Robó I have to wonder just how long it should take to do a remake of anything, especially by the same network. I never saw the 1983 original (Bodas de Odio), so I don't have a basis for comparison to Amor Real. Updating the story to the present should change a few plot points and character traits, especially for the femaleUrban Anthropologisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18003222420557272302noreply@blogger.com50tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25394992.post-28380023112306407982013-10-25T12:00:00.000-04:002015-08-04T15:46:12.982-04:00Weekend Discussion: Feliz dia de las Brujas!I realize that Halloween doesn't quite mean the same thing in Mexico, but what if Televisa and Telemundo would make some horror movies based on the favorites TCM and other movie channels show this time of year? Whom would you like to see as Dracula, the Frankenstein monster, the werewolf, the Mummy? I'm sure many of the guys out there would love to see Ninel Conde and other Jessica Urban Anthropologisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18003222420557272302noreply@blogger.com22tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25394992.post-82630684498798397972013-10-18T12:00:00.000-04:002015-08-04T21:45:30.542-04:00Weekend Discussion: Virtual Feast
Virtual Feast
Food, whether we're talking basic,
ethnic, plain, or fancy, is what keeps us going. We see beautiful
kitchens in the homes of our fictional friends on TV: Big kitchen
tables are laden with gorgeous produce, garlic is hanging over the
counter space, spice shelves are loaded with jars, and wonder what
Maria, the cook, is preparing for our protagonists. I keep wishing
that Urban Anthropologisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18003222420557272302noreply@blogger.com38tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25394992.post-38052544237466324972013-10-11T11:16:00.000-04:002015-08-04T15:45:19.284-04:00Weekend Discussion: Typecasting and Its Long-Term Effects
Over the years Televisa has typecast
most of our favorite actors. People with primo good looks usually
get to be protagonists, some get to be villains, and the ones who
hold onto their looks can do this into their forties.
Average-looking people can be the friends, relatives, colleagues, and
degreed professionals that surround the main characters (unless we're
seeing a comedy novela), and Urban Anthropologisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18003222420557272302noreply@blogger.com51tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25394992.post-64848127716554540142013-09-27T12:00:00.000-04:002015-10-25T15:17:40.850-04:00Weekend Discussion: Classic Movie Remakes by Televisa, Third Edition
Since we have a
remake novela ending next week, it's time once again for the Televisa
Remake Game.
Pick
a classic movie, any genre. Title translation optional.
Give
your dream cast for the Televisa Remake you would
produce. Actors currently under contract to Telemundo are also
invited to the casting call. Although most or all character
names would be Urban Anthropologisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18003222420557272302noreply@blogger.com3tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25394992.post-72196644105280331242013-09-20T17:12:00.001-04:002015-10-25T15:17:22.041-04:00Weekend Discussion: Have your viewing habits changed with all the new technology?Discovery Channel led the way in directing viewers to their website to check out more information about the subject matter of their programs. I don't know whether it was yet known that many people multitask their media this way, but most of the television world knows it now. That's why we have Univision on-air personnel encouraging people to tweet during the program.
Which I don't Urban Anthropologisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18003222420557272302noreply@blogger.com33tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25394992.post-68141341905178977132013-09-13T12:00:00.000-04:002015-08-04T15:42:57.473-04:00Weekend Discussion: Most Annoying Characters
Many
novelas have characters that just annoy us whether they were meant to
or not. This could be because of poor acting, the character's bad
timing, character stupidity, or just plain being out of place in the
story. This character can be any age and of either sex. These are characters we would never write into the story or wouldn't write the way they are appearing to us.
I'll start
Urban Anthropologisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18003222420557272302noreply@blogger.com84tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25394992.post-75690629265060079532013-08-30T13:00:00.000-04:002015-08-04T15:40:19.791-04:00Weekend Discussion: Paging Carla Estrada! We have a project for you!For a long time I've thought about what a great job Televisa could do if they had the remake rights to the US cult-TV classic Dark Shadows. Consider how it could be improved with an earlier period of time for the birth of its unusual protagonist (how about the 15th century?), the addition of legends like that of La Llorona, and the right cast. Of course, the original music by Urban Anthropologisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18003222420557272302noreply@blogger.com39tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25394992.post-68779583311929151862013-08-24T09:00:00.000-04:002015-08-04T11:33:08.545-04:00Weekend Discussion: Qué Bonito Amor Karmageddon Awaits!
Several of
our evil-doers are already with their Master, so here are the ones
left. What do you think should happen to them?
Rubén del
Olmo
Guilty of
murder, kidnapping, attempted murder, perjury, business fraud, and illegal activities yet to
be identified. Also guilty of stalking, although Mexico might not have laws about that.
Giuliano
Rina
Guilty of
two Urban Anthropologisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18003222420557272302noreply@blogger.com16tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25394992.post-1661226416105063012013-08-10T10:24:00.000-04:002015-08-04T15:40:03.260-04:00Weekend Discussion: Your Favorite Novela SubgenresHistorically, novelas have mostly focused on romance and its various difficulties, joys, and pain. In recent years we're seeing more comedy ones, mysteries, and violent narcotrafficante stories. What is your preference and why?Urban Anthropologisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18003222420557272302noreply@blogger.com49tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25394992.post-16220818604848739452013-08-02T22:01:00.000-04:002015-10-25T15:16:30.958-04:00Weekend Discussion: Music Videos For Your Pleasure
Couldn't think of a topic this week, so I thought I'd round up some music videos.
This last one doesn't have a great picture, but this combination of voices is incredible:
Does anyone else think Alejandro should take up opera?
On the subject of opera, here's a great one with Placido Domingo in the 80s when he was hot:
Urban Anthropologisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18003222420557272302noreply@blogger.com25tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25394992.post-25700967502369785552013-07-19T14:00:00.000-04:002015-08-04T15:38:55.953-04:00Weekend Discussion: Broadcast FormatsIn the last few years we've had our ups and downs with double episodes, episodes and a half, and time slot changes. Putting aside our specific issues about how this affects us, how do you feel about this?
I'm just old enough to remember the days when US soaps were only half an hour. That never felt right; I always felt cheated, especially about Dark Shadows. NBC's Another WorldUrban Anthropologisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18003222420557272302noreply@blogger.com43tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25394992.post-16093515358646122312013-06-28T12:00:00.000-04:002015-10-25T15:16:13.564-04:00Weekend Discussion: The Televisa Remake Game; Classic Movies, Second Edition
We had a good time with this before, so here we go again playing Televisa casting director to remake our favorite classic movies! The rules:
Pick
a classic movie, any genre. Title translation optional.
Give
your dream cast for the Televisa Remake you would
produce. Actors currently under contract to Telemundo are also
invited to the casting call. Urban Anthropologisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18003222420557272302noreply@blogger.com18tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25394992.post-6523345200804048362013-06-21T12:59:00.002-04:002015-08-04T15:38:02.846-04:00Weekend Discussion: What else do you watch? What do you get from it beyond entertainment?
Once upon a time we were speculating on some possible parallels between the British hit Downton Abbey and a past series. Since I am also a fan of the classic Masterpiece Theatre series and just ordered one as a gift for a friend, this seemed an appropriate topic.
Recently I opened a birthday gift received a few months ago from a that same friend and found Urban Anthropologisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18003222420557272302noreply@blogger.com61tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25394992.post-25288602727485508662013-06-08T00:12:00.000-04:002015-08-04T15:37:09.197-04:00Weekend Discussion: The Cost of Novela LivingWe often hear money being talked about and wonder what things really cost in Mexico for the characters we love, hate, and debate about. Lo and behold, a website called Nubeo provides this information. Another one called World Salaries gives average salaries in a number of countries, although it doesn't provide as full a list for Mexico as for the US.
Using the Urban Anthropologisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18003222420557272302noreply@blogger.com29tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25394992.post-78803830447381958522013-05-31T15:57:00.001-04:002015-10-25T15:15:50.823-04:00Weekend Discussion: An open letter from your fans; Televisa, you need our help.
High-definition
TV probably sounded like the greatest thing in the world … until we
realized that many of our favorite actors and actresses are aging
past the age your writers usually assign to protagonists. There does
not seem to be an easy transition for a still-handsome and still-fit
actor to go from the almost-innocent young Romeo to the worldly-wise
Prospero because there are almost no Urban Anthropologisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18003222420557272302noreply@blogger.com38tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25394992.post-25964283879044664162013-05-24T14:51:00.000-04:002015-10-25T15:15:31.037-04:00Weekend Discussion: What do you want from the novelas you watch?It's 2013 and we're watching remakes upon remakes, many of which are barely updated to take more modern attitudes into consideration. We see more bare flesh than in 1990, but hear no discussion of birth control. Abortion is still a taboo subject and we see very little about pedophilia.
We're still shocked, however, when a female character is raped and especially when she is Urban Anthropologisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18003222420557272302noreply@blogger.com60tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25394992.post-24301644987545499552013-05-17T14:13:00.001-04:002015-10-25T15:15:16.452-04:00Weekend Discussion: Las Mascotas; Animals in TelenovelasWe don't get enough animals in telenovelas that are characters. We saw many prize bulls [Salud!] in Amor Bravio, horses in others, but rarely do these animals have names or enough screen time. Animals are such big parts of many of our lives it's hard to believe that more novela characters don't have pets. The mascotas in novelas, though, are often amusing and endearing.
In El Urban Anthropologisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18003222420557272302noreply@blogger.com41tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25394992.post-39901408658841699162013-04-29T00:41:00.001-04:002015-10-25T15:14:55.305-04:00Weekend Discussion: Producers Novelographies - Updated March 9, 2015
These lists are not purported to be exhaustive, to name
every single producer and every single telenovela ever made. For the purposes of this list, most of the producers made telenovelas for Televisa, or were shown on prime-time on Univision and recapped on CarayCaray. The titles in Bold feature the current prime time line-up or coming soon. Since then, several Unknownnoreply@blogger.com38tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25394992.post-1775724691773561402013-04-26T08:14:00.000-04:002015-08-04T15:33:54.589-04:00Weekend Discussion: Food!One of the things I love about novelas is the kitchen scenes. The kitchens of the mansions and haciendas all look like such welcoming places, full of Andalucian tile and gorgeous produce on the tables that one of the first things I would do if I won a huge lottery is buy a house large enough to have a kitchen like that.
We often note the food because hospitality is a dictate of the ancientUrban Anthropologisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18003222420557272302noreply@blogger.com39tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25394992.post-40053762278879908292013-04-19T11:53:00.000-04:002015-08-04T15:33:04.920-04:00Weekend Discussion: ¡Musica Latina!
Most
outsiders to our particular world probably don't know much about
Latin music and I feel bad for them. They don't get that there are
as many genres and subgenres as in anything else. Some get stupidly
xenophobic over the language; I called out a friend on this one once
because she's willing to listen to Italian opera on the radio when
she doesn't speak Italian. She Urban Anthropologisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18003222420557272302noreply@blogger.com35tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25394992.post-32938213462850281102013-03-29T16:42:00.001-04:002015-10-25T15:14:22.211-04:00Weekend Discussion: Novela Stars in Passion PlaysSince today is Good Friday, I thought this photo gallery would be appropriate. This features Passion Plays by novela stars. The first set -- from Paixão de Cristo -- is Brazilian, the second -- from Triunfo del Amor -- is Mexican. Most CarayAmigos will recognize the actors in the Mexican photos:
Paixão de Cristo
Triunfo del Amor
Urban Anthropologisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18003222420557272302noreply@blogger.com5tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25394992.post-34454003481817955892013-03-29T13:28:00.003-04:002015-10-25T15:14:07.501-04:00Weekend Discussion: Amor Bravío – Karmageddon Awaits!
What
final fate should befall the evil ones in this tale of greed, lust,
romance, and toxic family dynamics?
Isadora
Gonzales de Albarrán
Her
Crimes:
Murder
of Padre Baldomero, Alonso Lazcano, Ximeana Diaz, Eleazar Lazcano
(flashback)
Attempted
murder of Camila Monterde, Dionicio Ferrer (as collateral damage)
Solicitation
of murder
Blackmail
(Salomon Morales, Alonso, Daniel Urban Anthropologisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18003222420557272302noreply@blogger.com18tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25394992.post-16461398562221845062013-03-23T14:23:00.005-04:002015-10-25T15:13:53.097-04:00Weekend Discussion: Las Primeres Actrizes; Grandes Damas de TelevisaAs I did a few weeks ago with the mature gentlemen who populate our favorite tales about love, hate, and the seven deadly sins, here I will present the great ladies of same. Since this will be a handful of them presented in the same manner, I will do the same as before starting with the youngest of these fine actresses and age them in reverse:
Julissa (b. 1944):
We are currently seeing Urban Anthropologisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18003222420557272302noreply@blogger.com19tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25394992.post-11745781583702342852013-03-01T21:08:00.002-05:002015-08-04T15:25:18.225-04:00Weekend Discussion: Is it always necessary to have a Felices Para Siempre?
In my
almost two decades of watching telenovelas I can only recall one that
had a tragic ending. I think it was technically a mini-series because
it had only 45 episodes (or it was originally shown in 90 half-hours;
couldn't find the info) but I haven't seen another since then. It
was 1989's Angeles Blancos and it ended with the death
of the male protagonist. It aired here in daytime Urban Anthropologisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18003222420557272302noreply@blogger.com37tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25394992.post-85439441478399712102013-02-21T21:55:00.000-05:002015-10-25T15:13:32.050-04:00Weekend Discussion: Primer Actor; Our Senior CaballerosA comment made the other day prompted me to wonder at the past roles of some of the splendid senior actors Televisa has given us over the years. This photo gallery is only a tease; it would involve more time than any of us have to do proper justice to this topic. However, it will be fun to see how some of these more senior actors looked in their younger days. We'll start with Urban Anthropologisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18003222420557272302noreply@blogger.com43tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25394992.post-40356835027255156412013-02-09T17:52:00.001-05:002015-10-25T15:13:08.211-04:00Weekend Discussion: Novela Writing; Should writers always listen to what viewers are saying?This question isn't about outdated cliche storylines, but about viewer reaction to what happens on the screen while the series is still in production. It's also about viewer ratings and how that affects what they do. A few examples of past decisions:
Pasion de Gavilanes (Telemundo, 2003-2004): This was the most successful series Telemundo ever had in the 7PM EST timeslot.  Urban Anthropologisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18003222420557272302noreply@blogger.com41tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25394992.post-74575684490363682652013-02-01T13:59:00.004-05:002015-10-25T15:11:49.631-04:00Weekend Discussion: Destinos, An Introduction to SpanishSince a number of us got started in Spanish by watching this excellent teaching tool (for me it was on PBS), I thought it would be fun to check our memories (with or without a little help from IMDb) to see where we have seen the actors since. I dug up some photos of varying quality for reference:
Liliana Abud and Arturo Puig
Jorge Martinez de Hoyos
Augusto Benedico
LuisUrban Anthropologisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18003222420557272302noreply@blogger.com29tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25394992.post-80906995694295314922013-01-25T14:25:00.001-05:002015-08-04T14:55:53.398-04:00Weekend Discussion: Censorship, the Plague
What's the Point?
We complain about it all the time among
ourselves. We should be complaining to the networks about this.
Seven or eight years ago I heard this
subject covered on Anderson Cooper's program in which comments were
made about the body heat being generated before Mexican and other
Hispanic TV cameras on our favorite types of shows. The news team
was wondering why the Urban Anthropologisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18003222420557272302noreply@blogger.com28tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25394992.post-80102924137266993012013-01-11T15:46:00.000-05:002020-04-08T10:53:01.120-04:00Weekend Discussion: Bodas Interumpti... y otros desastres, Part 1
Part
I
Sometimes
I think there is a deal between the bridal industry and the networks
that produce telenovelas. This thought first occurred to me in 2000
when Aracely Arámbula had no fewer than four bridal gowns in
Abrazame Muy Fuerte: one in the bridal shop that she rejected, one
for the interrupted wedding to José Maria, the third for the
completed wedding to José Maria, and the fourth Urban Anthropologisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18003222420557272302noreply@blogger.com18tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25394992.post-13094541485882087802012-12-21T23:19:00.000-05:002015-10-25T15:11:01.980-04:00Weekend Discussion: Novela Violence; Has it been escalating?Tonight's perverted torture of Camila in Amor Bravio has driven me to initiate this discussion.
In the nearly two decades I've been watching telenovelas I have noticed that the sexual content has increased, which I have no problem with. Has the violence also increased overall or is it just Televisa's programs?
Rape appears to be more explicit in most novelas I've seen in the last few Urban Anthropologisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18003222420557272302noreply@blogger.com23tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25394992.post-72477130915241025402012-12-14T21:20:00.001-05:002015-10-25T15:10:34.147-04:00Weekend Discussion: Novela DVD Sets; Do you own any and do you recommend them?This comes up once in a while when we mention past novelas and this is a subject that deserves attention. I thought I'd bring this up tonight since we don't have any new episodes tonight and Amor Bravio is being shown as highlights of the story to date.
As of now I have found no abridged novela boxed set that even gets close to the original. They feel like highlights of events and noUrban Anthropologisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18003222420557272302noreply@blogger.com44tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25394992.post-61328560919515110932012-12-07T22:21:00.001-05:002015-10-25T15:10:13.028-04:00Weekend Discussion: Tony Bennett Duets on UnivisionWe had a discussion a few weeks ago about novela music and someone mentioned this CD, which is now available. At 9PM EST on Sunday there will be a music program with some of the songs from this CD. This is a reminder to all to watch or record it if you can.
I'll be in and out both tomorrow and didn't have time to think of a new topic for this weekend, so if anyone wants to discuss Urban Anthropologisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18003222420557272302noreply@blogger.com7tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25394992.post-74774767813876462572012-11-23T13:17:00.000-05:002020-08-04T13:12:10.812-04:00Weekend Discussion: Un Refugio Para El Amor; El Camino al Gran Final
Karmageddon Awaits!
Those of us who know this story well
are aware of how the series title hasn't yet begun to pay off for its protagonists. We
hope it will in its final week for these two have endured too much
suffering. Here we will open the floor for discussion on what we
hope will happen to their tormentors beginning with their queen (If
anyone who lives or lived in Mexico can Urban Anthropologisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18003222420557272302noreply@blogger.com43tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25394992.post-27976109878867055812012-11-09T18:00:00.000-05:002015-10-25T15:09:12.119-04:00Weekend Discussion: Villains; They Who Make Our Flesh Crawl
Dirty
Dozen # 5 The Sleazebags
These are
the evil men who are not accepted in polite society. They mostly lack the social skills and the minimally acceptable-to-excellent
appearance of their higher-born and higher-educated brethren in evil. They normally cannot enter parlours or drawing rooms. They usually dress
badly, are often less than hygienic, and usually have no Urban Anthropologisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18003222420557272302noreply@blogger.com11tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25394992.post-49566982859009052752012-11-02T21:43:00.001-04:002015-10-25T15:08:40.557-04:00Weekend Discussion: Gay Characters and Storylines in Telenovelas; Still a Long Way to Go
In the
nearly two decades I have been watching telenovelas I can count only
on one hand how many gay characters I've seen in them whose names I
can remember. There have been some (not necessarily Televisa's)
with minor gay characters (as in appeared in a handful of episodes)
who fit all the popular stereotypes: Swishy men in cliché jobs like
hairdressers, interior decorators, or fashion Urban Anthropologisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18003222420557272302noreply@blogger.com46tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25394992.post-37209339540618221402012-10-19T08:26:00.001-04:002015-10-25T15:07:59.838-04:00Weekend Discussion: Misogyny in Telenovelas
What is it really about and will it every go away?
Alas,
even in the 21st century we are still dealing with
misogyny in our entertainment, in business, and in our lives. It's
one of my biggest pet peeves in all of these and what is particularly
troubling is that so many telenovela authors are women (at least in
Mexico).
We'll
leave out discussion of novelas de epoca as they take place inUrban Anthropologisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18003222420557272302noreply@blogger.com57tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25394992.post-38474374598668785052012-10-12T17:54:00.001-04:002015-10-25T15:07:42.935-04:00Weekend Discussion: Look-Alikes Part IIHere's an update on a popular weekend gallery including suggestions from our readers and bloggers:
Arturo Carmona / Christopher Reeve:
Ernesto LaGuardia / Donny Osmond (now you know why he isn't a primary galan):
Jorge DaSilva / John Derek (now you see why I wanted him for Joshua):
Livia Brito / Emma Stone:
Alberto Agnesi / Elliot Urban Anthropologisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18003222420557272302noreply@blogger.com41tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25394992.post-12167402320363308472012-10-05T20:00:00.000-04:002015-10-25T15:07:26.315-04:00Weekend Discussion: Leitmotifs and Love Themes; Novela Music
Ever
since ancient times music has been important in theatrical
entertainment to set moods and describe and comment on action.
Musicians were present in theatres during the time of Sophocles, the
Caesars, and later Shakespeare. The composer Jean Baptitste Lully
frequently collaborated with Molière
during the time of Louis XIV. During the days of silent movies music
was provided in theatres Urban Anthropologisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18003222420557272302noreply@blogger.com50tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25394992.post-82563605084150704962012-09-28T11:51:00.001-04:002015-10-25T15:07:05.928-04:00Weekend Discussion: Photo Essay; Separated at Birth (or just close relatives)?When watching telenovelas or describing them to non-viewing friends, do you ever end up saying anything like "He would remind you of Brad Pitt!" (or whoever)? The more I watch, the more I see this happening.
It never stops amazing me how modern communications makes for a homogenization of standards, especially with regard to looks and the decisions that can lead to as to who gets famous. &Urban Anthropologisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18003222420557272302noreply@blogger.com26tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25394992.post-58817504817710379492012-09-20T14:38:00.000-04:002019-01-27T14:12:54.093-05:00AMOR BRAVÍO EXTRA – Alonso Lazcano or New Standards for a Mama’s Boy - 9/20/12
Alonso Lazcano González Sánchez
This is a compilation
of CarayCaray recappers’ and commenters’
impressions of Alonso covering Episodes #1 – 14 (August 13 - 23). It
didn’t take us long to figure him out. Everyone, Enjoy!
Key:
If a word or phrase is
in parens, it’s part of the original.
If a word or phrase is
in brackets, I put them there for clarification or Unknownnoreply@blogger.com12tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25394992.post-20657315543702435542012-09-15T09:40:00.002-04:002019-01-27T14:04:35.222-05:00Weekend Discussion: Witticisms; Telenovela Greeting Cards-9/15/12
In one of this week's discussions, the Abismo gang noticed a repeated sequence of various characters expressing sympathy to someone because his mother was such a very, very...grave disappointment. It occurred to us that we could make a killing in Telenovelaland by developing a line of appropriate greeting cards for just these sorts of situations...por ejemplo:
Tu mamá es ramera, yo Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com85tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25394992.post-89390181290026008842012-09-07T22:00:00.001-04:002015-10-25T15:05:20.735-04:00Weekend Discussion: Televisa Remakes We Would Produce, Classic Movie Edition, Part 2
We've
had fun with this before, so let's here about the masterpieces you
would produce if you were at the helm of Televisa Studios. The
rules:
Pick
a classic movie, any genre. Title translation optional.
Give
your dream cast for the Televisa Remake you would
produce. Actors currently under contract to Telemundo are also
invited to the casting call. Urban Anthropologisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18003222420557272302noreply@blogger.com9tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25394992.post-89083694393044382002012-09-07T22:00:00.000-04:002015-10-25T15:05:03.823-04:00Weekend Discussion: Mandatory Forgiveness and Its Evangelists
Disclaimer:
I am not a practitioner of any organized religion, nor was I
raised in one. I know that the ability to grant forgiveness is a
primary goal in most organized religions, but if “To err is human,
to forgive divine” I will leave forgiveness to the angels.
We are
always being told that forgiveness is for the forgiver rather than
the person who offended him or her; forgiving is Urban Anthropologisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18003222420557272302noreply@blogger.com13tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25394992.post-47373932853949649012012-08-31T23:00:00.000-04:002015-10-25T15:04:14.360-04:00Weekend Discussion: The Great and God-Awful Telenovela Clichés – Part II
Campaigning for Meaningful Change in
Telenovelas
As we have discussed previously, we're
all annoyed with the medical and legal inaccuracies made by all the
producing networks. Those are the first things that should go in
favor of the truth. I also want to see consistent accuracy of
costuming in novelas de epoca and clothing that's logical for
contemporary characters (e.g., no ramerawear onUrban Anthropologisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18003222420557272302noreply@blogger.com54tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25394992.post-76462122644055890652012-08-24T23:00:00.000-04:002015-10-25T15:03:59.943-04:00Weekend Discussion: Telenovela Villains; Peerless Evil, Part 2
Dirty
Dozen #4: Sexual Predators
This
particular class of male vermin primarily preys – or attempts to
prey – upon innocent and/or wealthy females. His modus operandi
can be seduction but often is rape or kidnapping. Usually perverse,
and always achieving his most intense orgasmic experiences by
inflicting pain, his usual motive is greed. Usually a smooth talker,
often capable of Urban Anthropologisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18003222420557272302noreply@blogger.com23tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25394992.post-76697258224814984642012-08-10T23:00:00.000-04:002015-10-25T15:03:37.646-04:00Weekend Discussion: Fabulous Novela Weddings, continued
The
Wedding Album, Volume II
Oh,
how I sometimes wish we could go back to some true golden oldies, but
it seems that in recent television seasons each wedding planner at Televisa or Telemundo (i.e., wardrobe consultant and production designer) tries to outdo
the last production. I'd love to know whether novela weddings set
the style for the brides of the following year. We start with threeUrban Anthropologisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18003222420557272302noreply@blogger.com11tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-25394992.post-59609954954400510502012-08-03T23:00:00.000-04:002015-10-25T15:03:20.828-04:00Weekend Discussion: Telenovela Villains; Peer(less) Evil
Dirty Dozen #3: Femmes Fatales
Now we get to a particularly lethal
species of female viper, the femmes fatales, the
women who think they're the gods' gift to the men from whom they demand gifts. Not always clad in plunging necklines, stiletto heels, and red lipstick, they demand everything and get it... until Karmageddon gets them. Always involved in one-upwomanship competitionsUrban Anthropologisthttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18003222420557272302noreply@blogger.com34