Capitulo 24: Strong Women, Stubborn Men
Lo
del pasado
Julian, El
Diablo's henchman, tells him over the phone that he will get the
official death notice the next day. El Diablo wants it by fax ASAP
so he can put his plans in motion.
Lo de
nuevo
Camila's
Study (in the cabaña): Pablo visits her to ask for help with
the misunderstanding with Luzma; she makes the call to get her to
come over. After she arrives Camila exits just in time for Andres to
bring her mare around so she can go riding. He has anticipated her
desire to do so, which she finds disturbing. [Methinks this be a
metaphor for racier things.]
The two
teens start to settle their differences as a teen pop love song
plays. We think their elders are more interesting.
Outside: As Andres thinks
Camila would kill him again if she knew who he truly is while he watches Camila
ride, she takes a spill. He rushes over to help. She is clearly in
pain and annoyed.
Camila's
Study: Pablo proposes, suggesting they marry as soon as she is
18.
Outside: As Andres thinks Camila has hurt her ankle. Andres removes the boot and ties up her
ankle with his bandana. She tries to stand but can't walk because of
the pain, so despite her protests he picks her up to carry her back to the hacienda. Kissing distance achieved once again. [We
can't wait to see Alonssso's reaction to this.]
Kitchen:
Piedad cooks while Leoncio makes the usual creepy nuisance of
himself. More reproaches about how she should watch Luzma like a
hawk (which we know he really wouldn't like her to do for reasons
that make us ill). He grabs a prepared tostada out of her hand and
finally exits, telling her to put more chiles in the food. Cerdo.
Outside: Don Vicente Fernandez serenades our favorite couple and we can
barely hear what they say as they get into kissing distance yet again
without consummation (which is devoutly to be wished).
Camila's
Study: Suspenseful music builds in the background as Pablo and Luzma hear a sharp whistle from outside, which
she recognizes as Leoncio's. Pablo bolts for the next room, swiftly
closing the door, while Luzma pretends to shuffle papers on the desk.
Leoncio enters and she asks whether he always enters this building
without knocking. He demands to know what she is doing there; she
tells him she is assisting Camila. Even without seeing how creepily
close he is to Luzma, Pablo can hear the menace. Leoncio forces
Luzma out so he can subsequently drag her back to the kitchen.
However, he tries the door Pablo is hiding behind; the boy was smart
enough to lock it and keep silent. Leoncio finally gives up and
exits.
Parlour: Andres carries Camila inside. Just as he puts her on the couch
Mama Dragon enters and most assuredly is drawing the wrong
conclusions as she enquires as to Andres' identity. He introduces himself and she replies that she is Señor
Alonssso's mother and reminds him that Alonssso is Camila's husband.
It doesn't yet turn ugly when Mama Metiche enters, surprised that
Camila could fall off a horse because she is an excellent rider. She graciously thanks Andres for bringing her in, commenting that he is as attentive
as ever. Andres asks whether he can do anything else, but Augustina tells him she will take care of Camila. Andres exits. This provokes Mama Dragon to announce that she will get
Alonssso, which Camila asks her not to do.
Split
screen of Camila dreading her next encounter with Alonssso as
Andres walks outside thinking about all this and wondering why he enjoys her company.
Master
Bedroom: Surely there must be an elevator in the hacienda, for
how else could Mama Metiche and Mama Dragon have gotten Camila
upstairs (She is in no condition to walk, let alone climb stairs)?
She protests, saying she would prefer to stay in the cabaña.
Alonssso talks about taking care of her and their madres are far too
interested in the idea of the two of them in the same bed for
Camila's comfort [and ours]. The horror-film leitmotif plays
in the string section as the two women talk about their married
children taking care of each other.
Night.
Parlour: Mama Metiche receives a call from El Diabo. She explains what
has just happened -- including that Camila doesn't want Alonssso's company -- and waits for him to relate his news. Unknown to
her, Isadora is descending the stairs behind her. She doesn't get a
chance to hear much. El Diablo is in his own lair pouring himself his favorite
poison on the rocks as he tells Augustina that he will be home by
noon the next day and they can celebrate. Isadora makes her presence
known as Augustina ends the call. She tells Mama Dragon that El
Diablo will be returning the next day and they will have a party to
announce their engagement. Although Augustina doesn't notice
Isadora's pique at this we do. She asks whether she can borrow
Andres to drive her into town because she doesn't feel like driving
at the moment. Augustina, however, has given Andres the night off
and tells her she will call Rudolfo. As she exits Isadora is clearly
displeased. Too bloody bad.
Vivian's
Apartment: Rafael arrives and has a discussion – though not
quite an argument – with Viviana regarding this awkward situation.
He explains that Daniel had once saved his life, he's a good person,
and they knew each other in Chile. She isn't quite ready to believe
this and doesn't like this secrecy one bit. She has just stated that
Camila is her first priority in this matter when the doorbell rings.
It is Andres/Daniel, who admits to his identity. Viviana admits him,
but with some apprehension.
Master
Bedroom: Luzma tells Camila about the proposal and Camila
advises her to wait a little because she is so young. She is happy
for Luzma, who tells her that no one else knows and she is concerned
at Leoncio's reaction; she is afraid of being locked up in a convent. She should be. Camila agrees to help her.
Viviana's
Apartment: Andres/Daniel finishes his tale of woe. Viviana
expresses understanding but then asks why he has not told Camila.
Rerun of other conversations regarding his suspicions about her,
concluding with his suspicions that she is looking to sell the
property to a tourism developer. Viviana vehemently denies this.
Andres asks then why was she having the place appraised and Rafael
tells them what he heard, but that this does not mean that Camila is
looking to sell. Andres is still of the belief that Rafael and Viviana "don't know who Camila really is." Finally Viviana suggests that they all ask Camila
together to get it all out in the open. [Don't you just adore it
when the women have bigger cojones than the men?]
El
Diablo's Lair: Isadora Dragon pays El Diablo a surprise visit.
She not only wants a preview of what he plans to announce on the
morrow, she wants to mark her territory. She imitates an octopus and
closes in. He seizes her chin and stares in a rage, but takes the bait. El
Diablo is probably immune to komodo saliva. [We rather hope
so or this tale would end too quickly.]
Viviana's
Apartment: Viviana makes it clear that she will not help anyone
deceive Camila. If Andres/Daniel doesn't tell the truth, she will. Andres takes his leave and Rafael follows him out.
Viviana picks up the phone.
Street:
Rafael runs after Andres/Daniel, calling him by his true name
[how immensely foolish of him] finally catching up with him.
Andres/Daniel is afraid that disclosure will lead to him being sent
back to certain death in Chile, so he insists that Rafael convince
Viviana not to tell Camila anything.
Viviana's
Apartment: She calls Camila and finds out about the riding
accident and that Alonssso is refusing to allow her to divorce him.
Camila talks again about how disturbing she finds Andres. Camila
tells her they'll talk more about this on the morrow when she visits.
As she ends the call she tells herself she can't betray Camila.
Outside,
near the Fountain: Andres slows down, trying to think, when El
Diablo pulls up in his black SUV and exits the vehicle with Isadora.
Andres hides while observing them as they flirt, mock Augustina, and
kiss voraciously.
Andres'
Bedroom: He sits down on the bed, attempting to make sense of
all this, still determined not to trust Camila as he remembers
carrying her back to the hacienda. He was tempted to kiss her, que
horror!
Master
Bedroom: Camila is remembering the same encounter and thinking
the same thing.
Next morning:
Albarrán
Estate, Bullring: Pablo and Mariano walk around, Mariano
carrying a capote as they talk about Pablo's intention to marry
Luzma. Mariano knows that their parents will not accept this and
even he thinks that Pablo is too young yet. Nonetheless, he finally
agrees to help Pablo. Neither realizes that Bratgirl Iliana is
eavesdropping on them.
Kitchen: Luzma plays at marching down the aisle with a towel and a bunch
of cilantro substituting for the veil and bouquet, but recovers in
time before Leoncio enters. He sits at the table and insists on
being fed. She dishes up something from the fry pan, but he insists
on more. He makes nasty comments about her not needing to study and
insists she scrub the floors after breakfast. [He needs a good
swift kick in the bazanazas.]
Inn:
Padre Baldomero arrives for breakfast. He asks Natalia to tell
Andres that he'd like to see him as soon as possible. There is some
confusion over how the padre met him. Natalia goes on about Andres
and now he's living at the ranch, etc., then rushes off to work.
Amanda serves the padre's breakfast and they talk about her concern
for Natalia's crush on Andres. Neither believes that Andres returns
Natalia's feelings.
Master
Bedroom: Camila limps around the room, looking determined to
work despite the pain. Alonssso enters dressed for work and carrying
a single red rose. High-pitched horror-film leitmotif enters with
him. The same disagreement over their future. He continues to
accept that she wants a divorce while continuing to refuse it. She
finally raises the issue of an annulment, as their marriage does not
exist. He has that nasty look again as she exits and he crumples up
the rose and throws it on the floor.
Kitchen: Andres is having breakfast as Augustina enters, asking him to
take her into town as soon as he's finished. Coincidentally, he
just has finished and tells her he will get the car. Isadora enters,
asking for coffee. Piedad acknowledges the request as Augustina asks
Isadora how the dinner date with her friend went. She talks about a
female friend named Rosa. Andres eavesdrops, knowing the real truth
that Mama Dragon is covering up. When Augustina asks how she got
back, she says she didn't take a cab but says no more. As Augustina
follows Andres out, Isadora shoots daggers with her eyes.
Outside:
Leoncio has followed Luzma, bothering her to go back and scrub the
floors. She is holding a sheet of paper which she tells him (upon
being interrogated) is a school assignment. He insists upon seeing
it and she comments about his illiteracy. He balls it up and throws
it on the ground, then starts to chase her back to the hacienda.
Rudolfo appears and tells him he's needed to meet the delivery man
with the livestock feed. They exit together. Pablo appears and
picks up the paper; he heard it all. However, he does not know that
Bratgirl has followed him.
Andres
waits by the car. Augustina comes out of the house in time to see
Natalia arrive and give the padre's message to Andres. As it happens
she is going to see Licenciado Becerra and suggests that Andres go to
see the Padre in the meantime. They take off.
Viviana's
Apartment: Rafael arrives to make another attempt at convincing
Viviana that she shouldn't say anything to Camila. Although he is
not convinced that Camila is trying to have Daniel killed, he is sure
someone is trying to. They need to know more before taking any
drastic steps. He is sure that both are innocent but understands
Daniel's paranoia about this.
Parlour:
Camila is handling what looks like a phone book when Isadora
enters, enquiring as to her injury. Camila tells her it is better.
“Ah, but nothing compared to Alonssso's.” This correctly annoys
Camila who sees through this pretext. When Mama Dragon tries to
offer her help once again, Camila tells her flatly that it is neither
needed nor wanted. She refuses to discuss the situation with her any
further, finally getting up and leaving the room. Mama Dragon
knashes her teeth at this and shows off her gold-painted claws.
Bulls
Running. [Salud!]
El
Diablo's Study: The fax he has been waiting for comes in. He
laughs evilly as he reads the document.
Bull
paws ground. [Salud!]
Parlour: Viviana arrives; she and Camila sit on the sofa. Camila looks
around carefully and speaks sotto voce about her intention to
divorce Alonssso. She asks if Viviana knows a good lawyer, but she
doesn't. Nonetheless, Camila intends to get one and to speak to
Alonssso's doctor to make sure that he isn't using sickness as an
excuse to delay the divorce. Viviana tells her to speak of this to
no one else and the conversation segues to Andres. Viviana suggests
that she talk to him as soon as possible.
Albarrán
Study: Bratgirl Iliana searches the desk and finally takes out
an appointment book. She changes something in it. This does not
look good.
Parlour: Viviana attempts to figure out what to say about Andres, but
this conversation ceases due to El Diablo's arrival. He announce
that he has the document declaring Daniel Diaz Acosta legally dead
and hands Camila a folder containing her copy. Viviana is impactada.
Avances
Was on the phone, so I didn't hear. No episode tomorrow. Rats.
Vocabulary
capote
torero's full cape – magenta on one side and gold on
the other – used in the tercio de varas. A matador's standing
depends heavily on his performance with this weapon.
sotto
voce (It.) in a low voice
Sorry about the lack of dialogue but the scenes are so short these days.
ReplyDeleteHope next week will be better.
Thanks for the recap UA. There really wasn't a lot for your translate.
ReplyDeleteVivi is very smart and I'm concerned about her survival in this TN as so often good, smart people don't make it to the end of a novela. The look of shock on her face when Dio rolled in with the death certificate. The writers have created a reasonable situation for her to continue to hid Daniel's identity. Yeah! If she had any doubts about his story, the death certificate will nullify that.
I know Aloser has to hang in there as an obstacle but he's such a mess. If he wants to save his marriage, he'll get some anger management on his bouts or rages against Cami when she "defies" him.
And speaking of obstacle, that's all bratgirl is. Why haven't her parent returned to collect her? Why is she plaguing Paolo as if he's the only guy in the world? And why would she think she can have Paolo (except for the entitlement rich characters have in these TNs) when he's state several times his heart is with another. While Ximena is annoying at least she's Cami's sister. This silly girl is just there to make Paolo and Luzma's life miserable. Her uncle is wretched enough.
The previews were quite fun. Vivi tells Daniel about the death certificate and the Dio/Alonso connection and the Padre confronts the dragon and his mother saying the death certificate is as false as they are. I hope Padre lives to the end of this TN too.
They sure eat a lot of Tostitos at La Malquerida.
ReplyDeleteRafa needs to be slapped repeatedly for screaming out DANIEL! DANIEL! down the street at D'Andres.
What exactly does Leoncio DO at the hacienda?
Amber from Clueless joined this show; her new character is called Iliana.
Vivi doubted Dan's story but she can't now, with Dio busting in with the death certificate.
Thanks very much, UA. I love the way you organize the recap by setting. Helps me remember what I saw as I dozed off -- just can't help it -- during a show I really want to see. Hate the ten o'clock slot.
ReplyDeleteLots of excitement and romance last night. The Pablo/Luzma story just doesn't hold water compared to our central duo. I like the way that the twists and turns are developing in Daniel's story. I hope that the writers can sustain this for a while.
Alonso, Isadora and Dio make my skin crawl. I give it to Letitia, in particular. She's a masterful villain and even prettier as she ages.
I checked IMDb on her; if Flavio Medina is only 34 (he looks older) she is too young to be his mother off-camera. Leticia Calderon is only 44 years old. She could still be a protagonist if someone would cast her as such, but she seems to enjoy the dark side.
ReplyDeleteAugustina is such easy prey for this evil trio. I'm ready to strangle her. When she finds out that "Andres" is the hated bastardo she's been ranting about she will be unbearable.
Traveling Lady: ITA - I hate the 10PM slot. I have to fight to stay awake almost every night myself!
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Urban: Short and sweet but full of some terrific snark.
My favorite two lines:
"l Diablo is probably immune to komodo saliva."
"Mama Dragon knashes her teeth at this and shows off her gold-painted claws."
Thanks for the recap. Was at the office for 12 hours yesterday. Sat down to watch and woke up when Daniel was carrying Camilla.
ReplyDeleteI am beginning to get the hang of watching the Spanish subtitles, but then I miss the good stuff, i.e. "kissing distance."
Cesar would make a good vampire. I was just waiting for Isa to turn her head, so he could bite.
Cindy
Thanks, UA, for an excellent recap. My favorite lines were the same as Jardinera's, esp. the bit about El Diablo's immunity.
ReplyDeleteAnon 207, I too was furious at Rafa for screaming "Daniel, Daniel" as he was chasing Daniel down the street. With friends like that...
I was VERY uncomfortable seeing the astonished, disbelieving look on Vivi's face when Dionisio announced that he had Daniel's death certificate. It was clear that Dionisio noted her expression as well. I'm now fearing she may not make it through to the end, though I desperately hope she does. I love her smart, savvy, gutsy character.
If there's now an anvil hanging over Vivi, there's certainly also one over the Padre. His impassioned announcement in the avances that Daniel is alive is an obstacle Dionisio will try to, um, deal with.
I don't think we need to worry about her for a while, but I would like to find out what is the real deal with Miriam. Also, whether it is possible to have someone declared legally dead at all in Chile (It is not possible in France, for example).
ReplyDeleteIf it were Rafa sitting next to Camila and Dio came in and said "We have Daniel Diaz Acosta's Death Certificate!" and Rafa was like :-0, then I'd be concerned about his health and wellbeing.
ReplyDeleteBut since it was Vivi sitting there like :-0 with Camila & Dio, she'll probably play it off like "OMG now you're the only duena. Yay!"
I think the death certificate said Dan's birthday is March 1, 1979. '79 obviously makes sense because Dan is 33.
Luzma looks like Sandra Echeverria's little sister.
I want to know who that older lady in the credits will play, the lady that furiously closes the fan at the end of the opening credits. LOL
Fabulous recap Urban, never mind that there weren't a lot of juicy conversations for you to recap. I loved Vivi this episode, and I wish Dan would open his mind just a little to the possibility that Camila isn't some evil, greedy killer. Come on dude! You see she is surrounded by a horrible mother-in-law, husband (who happens to manage the ranch), and family friend (who's her husband's friend), and the first person you suspect is her? Seriously?
ReplyDeleteI think he is trying to hate her because facing up to the fact that he is attracted to a woman who is not Miriam is too frightening and painful.
Vivi, I think you're right. It's not so long since her "death" he must be feeling guilty about being attracted to Camila.
ReplyDeleteWho is actually much like Miriam. She stands up for what and whom she cares about and she isn't a frivolous layabout who lives to shop. If Daniel stops to think he might see that... in about 50 episodes or so.
Vivi, I agree.
ReplyDeleteDaniel has the same attitude towards Camila that Abraham has towards him.
Fabulous title!
ReplyDeleteUA: Another great recap and another beautiful fan.
ReplyDeleteAnon asked the question as to what does Leoncilo do? Good question as I was wondering that myself.
Looks like my friend may have called it re: Vivi keeping Dan's secret (see last comment on prev ep recap).
ReplyDeleteRobey
I think Leoncio does the higher-level dirty work on the ranch. It can't be more than that because the other men do not fear him. He has no authority over Rudolfo and now he has no authority over Andres. Judging from his interaction with Luzma in this episode it sounds like he has little education as well.
ReplyDeleteHe will never be more than he is right now and could seriously end up being less.
Just read the recap. Great job UA.
ReplyDeleteLove how Isa gets so frustrated because she's actually met someone who won't let her bulldoze them. Love it!!
Al is so creepy!!! Great acting job.
If Leo wants to catch Luz doing something wrong, he probably shouldn't announce himself by whistling.
Does anyone know how many eps there are in this TN?
My friend's other theory about Dio having Agustina killed to clear the way for a Cam seduction. What do you all think?
Robey
UA - great recap. I too loved "Diablo is probably immune to Komodo saliva." Isadora looks fabulous, but she and Dionisio devouring each other scared the beegeebees out of me.
ReplyDeleteI'm giving Daniel a break on not telling Camila, just yet. I do think he realizes she's not the calculating B and agree he feels guilty about his feelings for her. But he's facing life imprisonment or death, so the stakes are too high to take the chance on telling her the truth. What Daniel should be doing is exactly what the padre is doing, investigating instead of jumping to conclusions.
Vivi actually has a good reason to keep Dan's secret: Camila.
ReplyDeleteDan's telling her this story about being targeted for death so Camila can get her hands on the ranch, and then here comes Dio busting in boasting he has Daniel's death certificate.
If whoever is trying to kill Daniel is willing to kill a perfect stranger for the ranch, what would they do to Camila? Not only will Vivi keep her mouth shut about Dan's existence, I'll bet she will really ramp up the pressure for Camila to divorce Alonso ASAP.
Thanks mucho UA! Good to see you recapping in style! We are seeing the slimy trail growing of a few characters now...
ReplyDeleteIsa makes her movida. BTW, that kissing scene was gross! Dio looked like he was eating her teeth.Yech
Tio Leo and his lewd stares at his niece and nasty attitude. Now I know why he wears the sarape. It is to hide the huge alcohol soaked chip on his shoulder. He reminds me of the movie murderer who stalks people while he drags one of his leg after himself.
Dionisio, self appointed Casanova. Too bad he is more the No Va than the Casa.
AlLocoLonso the sniveling ranch idiot..
Bratgirl the society girl of Los Ranchos who appears to have her sights on the only society boy within miles, Pablo.
Feel free to add any others I might have missed.
Thanks UA, great job. They were in kissing distance a lot. I was hoping they would sneak one in. I loved how easily he picked her up and carried her. He didn't even look like he was struggling like some actors do.
ReplyDeleteAndres sure knows how to be in the right place at the right time. He catches Dion and Isa kissing, and now knows they are bad people. I think he likes Agustina, so he's going to want to protect her. At least until he overhears her calling him Bastardo.
The avances look interesting. I'm curious how everyone will take the news of the death certificate.
Not sure, but it looked to me like Bratgirl,(I don't even care what her real name is because Bratgirl is so perfect)was copying down a phone number out of that book, not changing an appointment. She grabbed a piece of paper and wrote something down.
ReplyDeleteMy TV guide shows that this show will not be on tonight.
ReplyDeleteIf I were Vivi the main reason I would want things settled between Daniel and Camila would be so that she wouldn't continue to get further involved with her supposedly first cousin. Otherwise, since the information will betray Daniel, she needs to give it more thought and be sure that it will be helpful to Camila.
ReplyDeleteThanks UA as always. I am beginning to like this tn as well. I like Viviana and I hope she makes it till the end because she is really the only bff of Cami. I don't like Mama Metiche, I bet she will not accept what ever the licenciado will say about El Diablo. I like what you said about the Komodo saliva. And the kissing scene of El Diablo and Mama Dragon, well that is so gross isn't it. But they really did well showing that evil monsters are gross with their sex lives. I fear for the good ones in this tn because there's a long way to go yet and they have to keep it alive till the end.
ReplyDeleteCathyx, I'm afraid you're right. The Washington Post's TV listings for today list Futbol preempting most of the TNs. Only Por Ella Soy Eva survived, at 7 pm. Sigh.
ReplyDeleteThanks, UA. Great recap, and your fan collection is stunning. A great added bonus!
ReplyDeleteI thought I remembered Leoncio referred to as "foreman", but that may have just been a recapper's translation, not a word I heard in Spanish. He doesn't act like a foreman, and never seems to have any assigned tasks. He just slinks around making a nuisance of himself. Frankly, the scenes with him scare me because he seems unpredictable, and possibly dangerous.
Good point, Foxy, about Vivi needing to prevent further involvement between first cousins. Vivi is the only one who understands that Camila is falling for Dan. She's in a tough spot.
Yup, Jane S - Tio Leo has been referred to as a capataz or foreman. Hard to believe, I agree.
ReplyDeleteThanks so much for the recap! I too was like, "EWWWW" with the Diablo/DragonLady kiss. It's like they were eating each other alive. Maybe that was the point. Like flesh-eating bacteria.
ReplyDeleteThis is my favorite TN at the moment.
Love that the duplicitous situations are discovered by someone before too long. So now, Daniel knows about Dio & Isadora. Vivi and Rafa know about Daniel, and Padre and Abogado know that something is up with Diablo Dio.
Thanks for the recap! Already missing that there isn't an episode tonight!!
Novela villains who are sexually involved with each other are always interesting because it will be that much nastier when they turn on each other at the end. I keep wishing that Telemundo would rerun Te Voy a Ensenar a Querer where the villains' sex scenes were funny.
ReplyDeletety for the recap.@ Anon207 tostitos is the sponsor of the novela and this is why it is everywhere haha.Also Omg the way the villains kiss looks like it hurts haha.
ReplyDeleteOK everybody, it's not my intention to hijack these comments, but I need some guidance and info. I have been off-line (yes, Virginia, there is a whole world outside the internet) for a couple of months and so missed the end of "the gal who couldn't make up her mind". Have been trying to find videos online and all the usual sources seem to have dried up. But, let me take this opportunity to thank all the recappers whose fabulous work got me up to speed and into the finish. I love you all. I love your individual voices and all the commenters who I consider friends by now. Which is why I'm asking here: I'll be back for reals at the end of September, so what should I do? 1) stay in the ten-o'clock slot? (is this show good enough to keep me up so late every night?); or 2) watch the 9'oclock, which is probably nearly over by now and then I'd be able to start fresh with something new from the beginning at a more reasonable time slot. What to do? Any input is gratefully appreciated.
ReplyDeleteOh, and by the way, I got an email from Variopinta. We've become internet buddies due to some similar life circumstances (through CarayCaray) and she wanted me to convey the message that she was having trouble getting onto the blog (in part due to the Captcha thing) to leave comments, but still followed faithfully with another loyal friend and wanted you all to know that they were still out there reading every recap.
IXV-
ReplyDeleteAbismo de Pasion is going to end in October, so it would take a lot to catch up with it. In Mexico, it is being replaced with Amores Verdaderos, not sure if it is here.
So far, Amor Bravio is pretty good IMHO. We're only on capitulo 24, so it's still quite new. If you can't start watching until late September, I would wait for the replacement of Abismo de Pasion, since it's ending soon. But I watch both hours, so to me that would be the best of both worlds.
Thanks cathyx, good input. I get the feeling AB is meaty and a good replacement for LQNPDA (which I loved) but there would be alot of catching up to do and the hour is a real problem for me. And what happened to the online videos? Are the networks clamping down on copyright infringers yet again.?
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ReplyDeleteKris-
ReplyDeleteFor future reference, don't post the web address for the shows here. We suspect that Televisa or Univision monitors this site and when someone posts the address, it becomes off limits the next day. We usually trade that info by email.
Thanks, duly noted! Still on the fence about what I'll watch but tonight it will be AB. I'm going to jump right in and see how much sense I can make out of it and if it seems attractive enough, I'll be back.
ReplyDeleteCathyx, you make a good point about not posting certain web addresses here, but how does this information get exchanged via email? There have been times when I've wanted to contact people privately, but I've never been able to find anyone's email address. As far as I can tell, most people don't have that information available on their Blogger page.
ReplyDeleteI did not know that. Maybe that should be posted somewhere so people will not list web addresses. However if anyone needs it let me know. I was only trying to be helpful.
ReplyDeleteJuanita, I guess you have to ask for it in the comments. Someone yesterday gave their email address for a link to the shows.
ReplyDeleteIXV- I really like this TN. I'm in love with Cristian de la Fuente, he's my new Telenovio, and I've always loved Sylvia Navaro's acting. So far it's been satisfying, so for now, I think you can't go wrong with this one. That can change any day, as you know. You can read the past recaps to catch up if you want.
Thanks all. Kris, for the link. I've copied it down. Not sure about contacting people by email, but mine is in my blogger ID and others have found me there. And cathyx, thanks for the encouragement. If I like it, I'll go back through and read up.
ReplyDeleteI use gmail for an alternate email in case things go wonky, it doesn't affect my "real" email account with my provider. You can just set one up with a new name any time if you're nervous about privacy. And if you get some kind of bad exposure or feel compromised, you can just shut it down any time. Also Yahoo and Ymail. You just have to remember to check them. Duh!
Thanks, Cathyx, for your response to my question. I guess I was hoping there was some central source that I didn't know about. But at least now I know.
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