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ReplyDeleteThat was very rude of the writers to set us up to think Melek was dead, but NO! I'm glad an all, but dirty trick by the show.
Although I want to see what's up with Hulya and Nedret, I don't think I'm sympathetic to either one of them. Sure, Hulya probably shouldn't have set fire to that man, but he and the rest, along with Nedret, were really being jerks about the furniture. If I didn't "know" Hulya, I'd be cheering her on. I get the feeling Nedret isn't going to be so good and pious as she thinks she is.
K
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ReplyDelete#40 Aslan and Devin continue playing the game of “what if”. “She kinda says, if she met him once again, she’d have a couple of drinks, take him home and then block him the next day. They decide to go have a couple of drinks together.
Cihan tells Ilyas about Aslan’s plan (from the lips of the rat, Ibo). I’m still confused about this. They’ll be smuggling combustibles (fuel) but the word narcotics was in there somewhere. Cihan plans to intercept the boat and bring “it” to the neighborhood. Another benefit will be that Aslan will be arrested, and Ilyas can take over the marina.
Some guy creates a diversion, and Serap goes in to finish off the unconscious Melek. But Cihan stops her. He got a call from Aslan, telling him that, while Hulya wanted Melek hurt, Serap arranged the worse wounds. He says one thing he and Cihan have in common is that they love their sister.
Aslan and Devin talk in a bar about his plans. Some woman has her eye on Aslan (who wouldn’t). Devin says she’s not jealous but proves otherwise.
Nese gripes to Yagmur. Eko is outside drinking. Yagmur comes out, then she puts a big ring Nese gave her for safekeeping on her finger to pretend she’s engaged.
Hulya! My God! She looks at Ceylan’s phone while she’s sleeping and goes to take Zeynep and Kaya from Cemre. The kids are traumatized. Cemre has called Devin; and she and Aslan come. Hulya tells Aslan he’s her worst enemy. Devin tries to comfort the kids and remembers how she and Yagmur felt when their father left.
Aslan says only one person could hurt Leyla that way and keep living. He says it’s her (to Hulya). He says that the two of them are like animals in a cage, but let the kids live in peace with their mother. After he walks away, she says she’ll never forgive him.
Aslan once again tells Devin to leave, to save herself, and she does.
Some guy has arrived in Adana with that trunk Hulya wanted Nedret to have.
Aslan tells Eko to beat it (for his own good). And he goes to Elif and proposes. No answer tonight.
Devin has gone to Adana appeal to Nedret about the marina partnership but has no success.
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ReplyDeleteWow Novelera you managed it all in one post! That takes talent. I thought originally that the contraband was an oil shipment but figured those of you more fluent got it right and I was wrong.
I don't quite get why Serap wants Leyla in jail for life. Is it just to punish the family at large? Wow that actress has mesmerizing eyes.
The Turkish bath scenes are weird. Originally I thought Nehdret's daughter was a maid or fellow "commune" member ( it seems like her business is sheep's wool, etc. so I wondered if it was an artists retreat commune).
Yagmur shut down Nehdret's son when he spied her from his mother's neon green car and got out to hit on her. Hoping for a happy outcome for Yagmur. She has had an awful card dealt her in her parents.
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ReplyDeleteKat in SC, SpanProf, K, Novelera: When can we expect "Los Casillas" to make its debut in 2025 ? Spring ? Summer or Fall ?
Venganza #41. The episode of revelations
ReplyDeleteThe condensed version... Gabriel has no luck convincing Brenda to give their marriage another try. She hangs up and blocks his number.
Pati is moving in tomorrow. Fernanda leaves with a suitcase of clothes ( no jewelry given as gifts over the years? I think Alfredo was tight in that department). He has cancelled her credit cards and she is pretty much penniless. She threatens him with proof that he was behind the death of Brenda's brothers to use as leverage. Alfredo tells Gabriel about it ( to shut him up about harping on the fact that a sister of their maid is moving into the guest house.)
Tania has contacted the call girl in NY for her plot against Alonso, though what the plan is didn't appear to be revealed.
Pati, Erika and Fermin attempt an intervention to save Claudia. Pati isn't much help, she is more excited about her new digs she is moving into . Erika and Fermin manage to get her out of the nightclub after threatening Miguel and Rafita with calling the police.
Big reveal...Ana tells Elisa about everything that happened to her mother and Manuela by Fernanda. Elisa finally believes her and thinks they should tell dad and the police, but Ana says it's just her word against Fern's. There is no proof. Elisa wisely suggests the police will find the truth but Ana is unconvinced. Elisa hints to Roberto that things aren't what they seem but doesn't elaborate.
Fernanda shoes up on Emilio's doorstep. She ends up telling him everything about her past ( except the murder of Maria Laura. She either is sticking to the she died in her sleep story, or that Ana did it, I don't recall). Emilio is pretty shocked at everything she admits to. She says you don't have any faith in me, love doesn't work that way. Then she calls him Francisco.
"VENGANZA" HIGHLIGHTS DISCUSSION:
ReplyDeleteKat in SC: Great job with the recap of Thursday's episode. My personal thoughts.
81.) Brenda blocks Gabriel's number: Good & let's see if Gabriel will up the ante even further by killing her parents.
82.) Goldie Locks got kicked out of the guesthouse of the del Pino family mansion grounds ? LOL.
83.) Why wasn't I surprised about Beltran knowing about Goldie Locks & Emilio/Francisco's secret sex escapades LOL. I had an inkling he had hired detectives/spies everywhere in FL.
84.) Alfredo is a fucking ruthless piece of SHIT: canceling Goldie Locks' credit cards & cutting her off financially. Wondering if they're trying to make the del Pino's becoming like the St. Patrick's of 'Power' on Starz TV.
85.) I sure hope Tania knows what she's doing with her plan against Slick Alonso.
86.) Pati moving into her new digs is well....... NOT well-received by the majority of the del Pino's obviously.
87.) The attempted intervention in saving Claudia by Fermin & Erika. Glad they got her out of that nightclub of Hell; Kat in SC: You're right about Pati being no help at all because I cannot stand her & want to see some Karma anvils wiping that smirk off of Pati's face.
88.) Don't think we've seen the last of Miguel & Rafita including their devious plans cooking up in store for Claudia.
89.) Ana FINALLY reveals to Gullible Elisa about the deaths of their mother & Manuela; Elisa believes Ana & thinks they should tell Daddy Dearest & law enforcement, but Ana says it best "It's just her words against Fernanda's".
90.) Mooching Roberto is still Mooching: Money, Money, Money, Money, Money, Money.
91.) I did get kicks about Ana putting Gabriel in his place about his impotency issues.
92.) Crazy Goldie Locks shows up at Emilio/Francisco's apartment & tells him everything about her past, except for the murders of Maria Laura & Manuela. I wasn't shocked when Crazy Goldie Locks called Emilio by his real name: Francisco Ramirez. Uh-Oh.
93.) Now that Goldie Locks knows Emilio Montenegro is Francisco Ramirez: I wonder how Francisco will wiggle out of this situation ?
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ReplyDeleteNovelera. I second Kat's comment, "you managed it all in one post! That takes talent." Thanks a bunch for sharing it with us.
Wondering if Cihan is nuts enough to still want Serap. He'll need to watch out drinking anything she offered him, for fear of poisoning. Ah, their first kiss was her pulling and biting his lower lip, drawing blood. He came through for Leyla. Hate to see him wind up with Serap.
Turgut's Spidey Sense is telling him Aslan's plan will be a disaster. Too bad no one will take his thoughts seriously.
Surely Aslan did not share his plan with Ibo, so I'm wondering how his dear uncle found out.
For once I cheered Nese. You go, girl! Drop a bucket of water from your window down on Eko's silly head.
Devin is usually pretty confident and in charge. It was interesting to see the old school respect and hesitancy she showed with the commanding Nedret. Too bad Hulya will probably muck this up.
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ReplyDeleteThanks very much, novelera, for your very impressive one-page recap. I agree with Kat and Niecie--it's terrific.
These last few days have been pretty chaotic for me. I wound up putting a small comment about Wednesday's episode on the wrong page, and I'm afraid I don't have anything to add to what you, Kat, and Niecie have said about this episode. I'm just relieved that Cihan was able to prevent Serap from killing Melek, and I was also glad that Yagmur had the good sense to squash Bedrik's (?) (Nedret's son's) advances.
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ReplyDeleteThat bucket of water scene cracked me up! Glad Nese could be useful for a change, but she should have warned Yagmur. I wonder how many scenes that took to do without laughing, because I’d be laughing.
Nefertiti seems to be some sort of guru? To women, at least. Her son seems, um, really not good enough for Yagmur. (Trying to be nice for now).
K
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ReplyDeleteI've had a very busy week and little time to watch and comment. My thanks to all the recappers and commenters. It helped me to catch up. I'll have the Friday recap up in a little while.
fam2 #41 part 1
ReplyDeleteDevin exits the hammam. Yagmur can tell it didn’t go well by the look on her sister’s face. Tell me we didn’t come all this way for no reason, she says, let’s go home. We’re not leaving yet, Devin replies, I have one more thing to do—eat kebabs. Nedret Hanım is having us to dinner tonight. Yagmur highly doubts that. Wait… she’ll invite us, Devin smiles, she likes me.
Nedret and Asuman exit the hammam and they see Devin and Yagmur, who look back at them, with a sort of disappointed look. Psychologist Devin proves correct, Nedret walks, but then turns back to invite them to dinner at her house.
Snitch Ibo contacts Cihan. The ship has arrived. It’s at the marina.
Ilyas thinks the gas will be pumped in the evening. We’ll see what happens when the police arrive, Cihan gleefully says. Salih says the people in the neighborhood are eagerly awaiting the arrival of the fuel.
The pumping has commenced at the marina. Ilyas’ guy’s truck is filled. He hides between trucks and calls in—my truck is filled, I’ll text you when I leave. We see Aslan passing by in the distance. Does he notice the mole on the phone?
Devin and Yagmur are at Nedret’s house. Devin looks at family pics on display. Is that your son, Bedri? He’s my only family, Nedret replies.
Asuman invites everyone to the table. She serves the girls and tells them, don’t leave anything on the plate, otherwise your husband will be ugly and weak in bed. They laugh. Mmmm, spicy Adana kebabs.
Hulya’s package is delivered. Worried Asuman takes it to the dinner table. Nedret looks horrified.
The mole gets in his truck and sends a text to Cihan—I’m leaving. Salih calls the cops to report a smuggling operation at the marina. Ilyas and Cihan are delighted.
Asuman says she will open the box for Nedret. Nedret waves her off and rises from her seat. She opens the box, gasps, and puts her hand to her mouth. It looks like a white dress. Devin asks her, are you okay?
Flashback to (40?) years ago. Young Nedret is sewing a white dress in her room. Her father shouts—Nedret! Where are you, you damned immoral one! He drags her out of the room. She begs, Dad, please, don’t! He literally throws her out of the house. You’ve disgraced me, he shouts, I can’t look people in the face!
Nedret continues to beg. We are not family anymore, he decrees, you’re not my daughter! Get out! You’re immoral, shameless! Nedret claims it’s slander. She begs her mother (Seher) to listen. Seher agrees with Dad. Dad says he doesn’t care if Nedret lives or dies. [I think she’s lucky that Dad didn’t kill her on the spot. That kind of thing happens.] Nedret looks up at the house and we see a young woman smugly looking at Nedret. Is that Hulya? End flash.
Nedret is gasping. Devin asks again, are you okay? Try to take deep breaths. Nedret grabs the dress and hurries outside. The ladies follow her. Devin tries to reason with her. Nedret grabs an employee’s gun and shoots several warning shots into the air. Don’t come close, or I’ll make you pay! She returns the gun to the guy.
Nedret heads to the fields. Devin goes after her. Nedret hears her father and mother’s voices repeating the harsh words from years ago. Dad: you don’t have a father anymore! Seher: it would have been better if I gave birth to a stone instead of you! Nedret falls to her knees and claws at the dirt. We hear a man’s voice: I can’t marry you, Nedret. I can’t do it. Nedret buries the dress in the hole she’s dug.
Devin calmly asks Nedret to stop and says, if you are hurting, don’t bury the pain. If you feel hatred towards someone, don’t bury it. Not in the earth, nor in your soul. Nedret looks up at Devin.
The cops arrive at the marina.
fam2 #41 part 2
ReplyDeleteIlyas addresses the neighborhood guys. Last time when I was betrayed by this neighborhood, I told you the wolf survives the winter, but he doesn’t forget the frost. I don’t forget a betrayal. But just this once, I’ll forgive you.
Cihan is on top of the truck. Something’s not right. He takes out his gun and shoots the arm of the guy unloading the gas from the truck. Ilyas, will forgive, but I won’t, he says. He tells everyone to leave and he fires off a couple of warning shots.
Ilyas wonders what’s going on. Cihan pulls a few cucumbers out of the truck. It would have been humiliating if they saw this, he says. Aslan figured it out.
The cops find nothing at the marina. They apologize and leave. We get the flashback. Aslan noticed the mole making the call and had him dragged from the truck before he could leave. They take his phone and Isko finds drugs in the truck. Aslan gives orders to send the ship out of the marina and send out the other trucks. Empty the warehouse.
Aslan calls Cihan, did you get the shipment? You can peel them and eat them. That was funny, Cihan replies, we laughed. But if Babaciga finds out the cops were at the marina, will he want to keep working with you? How will you pay your debts? Just worry about yourself, Aslan answers, and enjoy the cucumbers.
The drugs are burned. Turgut wonders what will happen now. Aslan walks away.
Next morning, Isko brings a bag full of US dollars. But it won’t be enough. Aslan says he spoke to Babaciga. He can’t work with us after what happened. What happens next, Eko asks. The bank will send agents to collect, Aslan replies, they will seize everything, and we’ll go bankrupt.
What do we do with the money, Isko asks. Aslan pays the workers with the money. It’s what he owes them plus a little extra. He thanks them for everything. He’s truthful. I don’t know what will happen. I don’t want to make promises I can’t keep, he tells them, but you’ve done a great job. The envelopes are handed out.
Aslan goes home. Ceylan greets him at the door. They were worried when he didn’t come home. She asks about the marina. Aslan says the marina is finished. We couldn’t pay the debt, and it was seized. Hulya says, all that hard work… and it’s over?
Aslan gets a call from Cagri. It’s good news. The payment was made. What payment? Who paid? Your new partner, Cagri replies, Nedret Soykan. (We see a caravan of cars. Nedret is traveling.) Aslan is shocked speechless. Hulya and Ceylan ask him what’s going on. Who paid? He finally answers, Aunt Nedret. Hulya didn’t think she’d do it. What happened?
Nedret and Bedri arrive at the house. The house that Nedret was thrown out of 40 years ago. We see Devin get out of a car, too. She stands next to Nedret and Bedri. Aslan is surprised to see her.
We get the rest of what happened with Nedret in Adana. [This is interspersed with the Soykans silently trying to process Nedret’s arrival.] Devin tells Nedret, if you want to rid yourself of those emotions, let them out. I don’t know what you’ve been through in the last 40 years, I don’t know what they put you through. I don’t know who’s right and who’s wrong, but there’s one thing that I know. You’re only digging a grave for yourself.
Nedret cries. Devin continues, stop digging. When someone digs a grave, whether in the earth or in the soul, you’ll never be able to escape the burden. You said, everyone makes their choices. (camera on Aslan) You chose retribution. But life is wise. It always gives us a chance to redeem ourselves (camera on Hulya). Nedret pulls the dress out of the hole, and she takes Devin’s outstretched hand.
Nedret signs the agreement in front of everyone. We hear Devin’s voiceover from Adana. Do you have any idea where salvation begins? Not before the war… not after the war… it’s right during it.
fam2 #41 part 3
ReplyDeleteSelamin alaikum, Nedret calls out, praise the Lord, who brought us together again. Seher turns back into the house. Aslan returns her greeting, walaikum selam, Hala. Welcome. Glad to see you, she replies. Aslan greets Bedri, too. Ceylan rushes over to “Nefret” Hala and welcomes her with a hug. Nedret holds out her hand for Ceylan to kiss. Ceylan questioningly laughs. Do it, Nedret says, your mouth won’t get dirty. Ceylan complies.
Nedret asks, where are the others? Ceylan says they are inside. Aslan asks Nedret, why are you here? You refused to sign the contract, but you want to be a partner now? Yes, we are partners now, Nedret replies. Bedri adds, don’t worry, we paid everything. Aslan says they should have informed him ahead of time.
You’re facing trouble as it is, Nedret says, I’m here so your reputation won’t suffer. This beautiful girl didn’t hesitate to come to me. She made this happen. You should thank her. From now on, we’ll be together at the house and at the marina. Aslan asks Devin, you went to Adana? We’ll talk later, Devin replies.
Nedret tells Bedri to kiss his aunt’s (Hulya) hand. He’s got to force her to give her hand. Nedret says she didn’t come empty handed. She orders her guys to take the fabrics out of the cars. They are 100% cotton from our fields, she explains, and I hope you use them on good days. You can make shirts or dresses for your mother and sisters.
Isko steps forward to greet Nedret. He kisses her hand. She gives him a small red pouch. I assume it has gold coins. Next Turgut steps forward and kisses Nedret’s hand. He gets a red pouch, too. Then it’s Eko’s turn. Ah… Asuman notices Turgut, she takes a big breath, lol, and Turgut notices her noticing him. [a future romance? Let’s hope so.]
Asuman gives Nedret a special package, bundled with a black ribbon. Nedret goes up the steps to the house and says to Hulya, I’m happy to see you. Hulya doesn’t look at her. She drops the bundle in Hulya’s arms and whispers in her ear, do you remember it, Hulya? You had me dragged out of here with a wedding dress. I’ll have you dragged out of here in a shroud.
Asuman puts out a pair of slippers for Nedret at the doorway. Nedret hears her father’s words again. Get out! You’re not my daughter anymore! Right foot forward into a slipper, Nedret intones, “Bismillah ir Rahman ir Raheem”, In the name of Allah, the most Beneficent, the most Merciful. Nedret is silent but her emotions show as she enters the house. Nedret calls for Asuman. She gives her a key. From now on, this is our home, too. Outside, Aslan stares at Devin.
Cut to Kiymet telling Ilyas, there is a snake here. It brings lies and mischief. Make sure it stays away. Cihan agrees with her, the snake is Nedret and she’s with the Soykans now. Ilyas looks surprised and exclaims, what?! Is Nedret in Istanbul? Are you sure? Yes, Cihan replies, she’s a partner at the marina. She paid the debts.
Kiymet asks Cihan, that snake raised you, didn’t she? Yes, Cihan answers, until I was 8. Then she was kicked out. Ilyas looks sick. [does he have history with Nedret? Was he the one who was going to marry her?]
Serap comments, we need to cut the flow of money to the marina. Have them destroy each other. Cihan says someone is already working on it. Serap says she will make the marina tenants nervous. She will spread the news about the police raid. Cihan says he will make threatening calls to the tenants.
Kiymet looks at Ilyas and notes, you became nervous when you heard about Nedret. Why would I be nervous, he replies. Cihan takes note of this, too. [I’m really curious.]
fam2 #41 part 4
ReplyDeleteAslan calls out Devin. You went to Adana and talked to her without my knowledge, and you offered her a partnership without my consent. Yes, Devin replies, but you already offered her a partnership. But I didn’t tell her to move here, Aslan says. This is her house, Devin answers. Lord, grant me patience, Aslan exclaims. Devin thinks she owed a thank you. Didn’t you need the money to pay the debts?
You don’t know my aunt and her psycho son, Aslan says. We can’t live here together, it will be war. Devin answers, the family is to stay together in good times and bad, right? What do you want, Aslan asks. To keep you from dying, Devin quickly replies. Didn’t you say you were walking into darkness, to your death? You can’t die. I forbid it!
We are not together anymore, Aslan replies. What’s this about forbidden from dying? Ah, you’re thinking about the children? They shouldn’t grow up without their uncle? Devin responds, you want me to say I’m doing this because I love you, but the days of our love are long gone. [who believes that? I don’t.] I’ll make the decisions now. She walks into the house.
Hulya confronts Devin. You didn’t want to be alone, so you brought that snake here! Nedret seems nice, Devin replies, we get along well. And as far as I know, this is her home, too. You don’t know what you’ve done, Hulya says. Devin answers, you were going to hurt Aslan and destroy the family. I did what I had to do.
Why do you care, Hulya asks. You don’t belong here anymore. You have no power. And don’t get me started on my grandchildren. I’ll show you what happens when you meddle. Are you threatening me, Devin asks. No, Hulya replies, I’m informing you. As long as she’s [Nedret] here, I won’t mess with you, but I’ll mess with your family. The convo is interrupted by Leyla’s kids, who are happy to see Devin.
Turgut has news. Cihan’s mole talked. He said Cihan got his info from an insider. Cue Ibo arriving at the house. Does Aslan suspect Uncle Ibo? Let’s hunt the mole, he tells his guys. Ibo exclaim as he approaches Aslan. Congratulations, Nedret is here!
Nedret has coffee in the yard with the family. She asks, my presence bothers you, doesn’t it Aslan? Are you going to kick me out? Why would I, he responds, this is your house, too. Stay as long as you want. Hulya looks disgusted. Aslan notes that Nedret’s life is in Adana. You didn’t have to come here for the partnership, he says. She acknowledges that but adds, it’s not the place where you were born, but where you were fed.
Ibo comments, you’re going to leave your business in Adana unattended? Bedri answers, we’d never ignore my father’s lands. Nedret asks, since when do you worry about my affairs? We want to live and work in Istanbul. My son will represent me at the marina. Aslan balks, this isn’t a parking lot. This is a marina. It’s not that simple. What can Bedri do there?
Bedri says, I was 10 when I closed my first deal. I can get water from a stone. The rocks here are very hard, Aslan replies, be careful or you’ll wear yourself out. Nedret says, I signed and paid everything. You’re better off just thanking us. The Lord says, “unless one of you betray the other, I will be among you.” Keep that in mind.
Aslan is frank. I’m in favor of the partnership on paper, but the marina has one boss. That’s me. No one else can interfere. No one can even offer an opinion. Let’s drop it for now. You must be tired from your trip. Rest and we’ll talk later. He walks away.
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ReplyDeleteSeher appears and starts ranting about Nedret coming to stay. Why did you let her in? How could you do this to me?! Hulya and Ibo rush over to her. Nedret looks sad. Seher demands that Ibo get rid of Nedret. Seher turns on Huyla. You should be ashamed! You broke your promise! Your husband and father are turning in their graves! [does she finally remember that Yusuf died?] Crush that snake! Tell that snake… there is no room for Seyit’s murderer in my house. [don't know who Seyit was.]
Nedret goes to Seher and attemps to kiss her hand. Seher pulls it away and looks at her daughter with contempt. Don’t worry mother, Nedret says, your grief will end soon. I’m back now. Seher walks away with Hulya and Ibo. Nedret tells Asuman to go to the kitchen and start dinner prep.
Huyla tells Ibo the marina is an excuse. Nedret is there to settle scores. Ibo assures her Nedret won’t succeed. Your word is useless, Hulya replies, you never keep your promises! He tells her to be patient. He has a plan. She can’t be patient. If he can’t handle it, she will.
Hulya gives Ibo an injection in his arm. [Not sure what it is and why he can't do it himself.] He grabs her hand and asks, you don’t regret what you did at that time? I didn’t do anything, she replies, but I have to put an end to this. I’m going to crush that snake. Nedret enters the room.
Flashback. Young Hulya, who looks like she’s been beaten, is attended to by [I assume] young Ibo. Young Nedret walks in on them. Current Nedret has that same look on catching them together.
Devin is ready to get into bed. Aslan enters the room. He asks if he should take the left side or the right. She tells him to take another room. No rooms left, he replies, but you can leave. Sleep with my aunt or with my mother. She has a big bed. He snarks, this bed is big and comfortable, and if you keep yourself in check, we’ll be fine. He plops on the bed. Enjoy your bed, Devin says, I’ll sleep on the couch. He laughs at her. She covers herself and turns her back on him.
This is a never-ending tale, Hulya tells Ibo. There will always be something happening. Don’t worry, he replies, we will deal with Nedret. What about everything else, she asks, my reputation has been destroyed, my foundation is in trouble, my house was burned down. If that wasn’t enough, I’m going to lose custody of my grandchildren.
What did Cagri say, Ibo asks. Hulya replies, since Leyla’s guilt hasn’t been proven, we will have to wait for the trial. Ibo asks, what happens if Aslan helps Leyla? I’ll lose custody, she answers. Ibo says, I’ll give you a few cards, so you have a good hand. Didn’t you say that Leyla was a drug addict? Well, I’m going to make this a fact. I’ll do whatever I can to keep you from being sad.
And we are out.
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ReplyDeleteOMG, dondi, I can't imagine how I could have understood anything about this episode without your wonderful recap!
I hadn't realized that the house where the Soykans have taken refuge now is the house where Nedret grew up. Thanks, dondi, for making that clear.
I am so tired of Hulya's nastiness, and in this episode she warns Devin that as long as Nedret is there, she [Hulya] won't mess with Devin, but she will mess with Devin's family. Oy, hasn't Yagmur been through enough already? Not to mention her mother.
Let's see how much of this I've got right (if anything). Seher is not just Ibo's mother but also Nedret's. Nedret has a son, Bedrik, so I at first thought she had been married. But we're told her name is Nedret Soykan. Aha, so Soykan is her birth name. My guess is that she became pregnant with Bedrik when she was not yet married. Both her mother and her father were furious and rejected her. And the voice Nedret recalls in the present is the man whom she had been planning to marry--presumably Bedrik's father--telling her that he cannot marry her.
I'm still confused about the scene with Nedret giving an injection to Ibo with Hulya watching. There's also a flashback to a young woman (Hulya?) seeing Nedret and some man, but since Nedret and Ibo are sister and brother, the young man in the flashback is probably not Ibo [though in this crazy dizi, who knows?]. I assume that the two young women in the flashback are Nedret (with the man) and Hulya (watching). In an earlier episode, I recall Hulya seeming to wish she had married someone other than Yusuf. Was it Ibo?
And where does Ilyas figure in any of the above?
And then there are the activities at the marina. What have the cucumbers got to do with anything? Are they just a "ha ha, we fooled you" symbol?
I feel silly posting so many questions, but I find this the most confusing telenovela/dizi I've ever seen. The only thing that keeps me able to stay with it are the recaps.
Dondi, MANY MANY THANKS!!
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DeleteJuanita- It was Hulya giving Ibo
the injection, not Nedret. In the flashback, Nedret sees Hulya and Ibo together.
Beth S
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ReplyDeleteGracias, Dondi. It's always a treat to read your recaps. Totally riveting.
I vote that that's young Ibo wiping young Hulya's bloodied lip. And so Nedret sees today that they're in cahoots today just like they were 40 years ago.
A while back there was an edited scene of Ibo getting an injection from one of his guys. I'm guessing he's diabetic.
Hulya says she'll mess with Devin's family. Nothing new here. She already messed with Devin's family when she told Eko's parents about Yagmur's past.
I'm all aboard a Turgut-Asoman romance.
Surely Cihan will have a heart about Nedret since she mothered him until she was kicked out.
Nedret seems to have a heart. I can't say that about Hulya.
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ReplyDeleteI wonder where all Nedret's money came from. I assumed she married well. I'm confused how she inherited 1/4 of the house if her parents threw her out and it sounds like she was disinherited. Perhaps she is like Devin and in her marriage? she kept her maiden name.
Someone is gone for 40 years but her nieces and nephews seem to know her. Has she been a shadowy figure in the family tree they all know about but have never met. So Asoman is not Nedret's daughter. I don't understand why in other episodes she calls her mother. I think a lot of this novela stymies me because I know nothing about the Turkish culture.
Hulya wants custody of the grandchildren but will sacrifice her daughter to get them. What an evil witch. And Ibo is a warlock!
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ReplyDeleteThanks again, dondi. As usual your recap was terrific and cleared up a lot of things.
Ibo and Hulya sitting in a tree, kis.s.ing. Those two are a partnership made in hell. The actor is doing a fantastic job making me hate him. That evil smile when he thought he sunk his nephew! And he's planning some drug crap against Leyla?
I'm still puzzled about the whole marina caper. We saw (I thought) fuel being pumped into the truck. Was it cucumbers? And the remark about the neighborhood. Ilyas was planning on donating the stolen fuel to those people he already gave the "rain of money"? From what Aslan said about the ship being turned away because of the sabotage, I didn't think any fuel arrived. I thought the pumping happened before Aslan spied the mole and thought fuel had arrived. Oh well.
Two hags that should be locked in a room together are Hulya and Kiymet. It's kind of ridiculous that Seher still harbors such a grudge against, we think, her only daughter.
Isn't Nedret Ibo's sister. What the hell? He's siding with Hulya against her.
I rather liked Nedret delivering the shroud material to Hulya. I think there's someone finally here who can best Hulya.
Bedri does look suspicious as hell.
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