Thursday, July 03, 2008

Fuego 7-3: Father Bouffy improvises a marriage ceremony suitable for an already-married bride.

We open with Sofia saying "You won't lock me up!" but she's wrong, Gab does indeed throw her in her room despite Gramps' protests.

Actually, I thought somebody was sure to go over that balcony, but not this time.

Fern stands blowing smoke from his stogy and watching. Juan rides up on his splendid horse, shouts "I've come for what is mine - Sofia and my child!" "YOU are the father of the bastard?" asks Gab. "Fern, aren't you going to do anything?" He does, he blows smoke.

Eva says "no more blows!" as Gab tries to hit everybody. "Juan, carry me away!" Juan carries Sofia away and Gab, furious, orders everybody (except Fern) to go lock themselves in their rooms. "Get out of my sight, disappear!" Why do they all obey? She curses everybody and silently wishes for the death of our impetuous leads (or was that Fern's thought-bubble?).

At the bakery, Quintina is happy to hear the real assassin is in jail, the Reyes are free, Juan has gone to fetch Sofia. Quintina hustles to hide Libia's picture again. "Juan will tell Sofia the truth when he decides the time is right."

In Gab's study, Fern emotes: "Of course I'm angry and humiliated and want vengeance." Gab: "You failed, that baby will be born, our good name will be sullied. I disown Sofia." Fern smokes some more.

Gab goes on with the humiliated/betrayed line. Fern grabs for her but she won't let him touch her. "My honor and dignity are in play, they are all I care about." "Your rejection hurts me but I understand, and I always try to help you." They fetch Sarita.

Oscar, Franco, and Quintina go to church to thank the Virgin for their uptick on Fortune's Wheel [I still think Oscar could button up his shirt when he goes to church] and then go to the hospital where Pablito is in despair: his granny Delfina is ailing. They rashly promise Pablito all will be well, they "won't let anything bad happen." [This is not a good promise to make to anyone, ever, in my opinion. --Ed.]

Juan and Sofia stop to sit on a romantic bridge and, as Juan's splendid horse watches, they pledge their eternal love once more. Sofia takes off her wedding ring and says "Now I'm free to love you eternally." [Is it really that easy?] The horse does a trick.

The loving couple arrive at the bakery. "This is all yours, our humble house, no luxury, but there's a nice kitchen." Sofia assures Juan she gave up everything for love.

He installs her in Libia's room, she sees a doll and asks if this had been a girls' room. "Yes, my sister, the youngest. When we were orphaned I had to take care of all of us. I fed them, watched over them as best I could - I only half-educated my brothers - but my sister - she died in strange circumstances." "You talk about your siblings with so much tenderness, no wonder they respect you." Juan says this is a happy day, no more of these sad memories.

In her room Sarita paces. Jimena enters. They review - Sarita hopes this blow will not damage her dear mother, Jimena thinks it's all so romantic. Gab busts in, orders Jimena back to her cell, and gives Sarita a message for Sofia, which she duly delivers (see below).

Eva rehashes with Gramps a bit - she thinks she'll have to leave the hacienda now that she's openly defended Sofia. Gramps wonders where she can go. She says Rosario is accepting her, little by little, as her mother. Gramps: "Are you sure, are you VERY sure she is your daughter?"

At the Bad Love Bar, Moustache blusters, threatening the staff: he will find out who ratted Mapache out - there will be hell to pay for the one(s) who did not maintain quiet snouts. OK, back to work.

The bar guys look worried (if Moustache were watching he'd instantly ID his perps) and whisper they are in big trouble, but Rosario was right, they needed to follow their consciences.

In jail, Mapache's cellmate asks, what are you in for? "For quieting the snouts of people who ask too many questions. Butt out."

Back at the bar, Moustache tells Fern (still smoking) he's confident the employees are terrified and the guilty parties will slip up... "That's not what's important, the problem is that Mapache might incriminate us - we have to off him." "That's hard when he's in jail." Fern knocks Moustache over and says "Nothing is impossible for Fernando." [Don't you hate it when people talk about themselves in the third person?]

The doctor calls on Sofia at the bakery, gives her some prescriptions, and tells her she needs rest. Juan fusses over her: "What do you need, are you hungry, do you want a bath, can I bring you something?" She feels tenderly protected, he says he'll defend her and his child with his life.

Sarita arrives, just before the commercials, and after the commercials delivers the message: "Mama is disposed to forgive you and allow you to come back to the house, and Fernando will give the child his name, you must come immediately." "Ah, she never changes - tell her I appreciate the offer but I'm not coming - I won't leave Juan and I have no right to deprive my child of his/her true father." Sarita says this decision will cause many people suffering. "I'm sorry, but the well-being of my child comes first - it would be as bad for him/her there as it's been for us since dad died!"

Gramps scolds his daughter: "Stop blaming others for your mistakes. You're going to end up alone." "You are my worst enemy! If you feel this way about me, why do you stay?" "Because I have this futile hope that you'll change - I prayed for happiness and peace, but you can't get the rancor out of your soul. I'm leaving too, I'll go live in my cabana, if you want to see me make an appointment, maybe I'll want to see you."

Sofia tells Father Bouffy how upset she is about Gab but we don't need to rehash that. She asks a favor ... next thing we know, she and Juan and Bouffy are in church and Bouffy is inventing a wedding ceremony for when the bride already has a husband. He doesn't seem to have any problem with this. He blesses them and watches their passionate kiss approvingly.

The Bad-Love Bar girls shake their fannies. When Rosario comes backstage her dresser Ofelia reports: Pablito's granny is on her deathbed. Reminded that Pablito is the boy who stood up for her own darling nigh-autistic Luis back in the 'hood, Rosario says she wants to help and goes off to the hospital to see him.

The doctor tells Franco, Oscar, and Quintina that granny Delfina's not going to make it and that he's worried about desperate little Pablito, who won't leave his granny's side. Oscar: "I don't know what to say to console him." Pablo is crying and asking his Granny not to die, not to leave him alone - "Who will give me advice? Who will keep me company?"

Oscar and Franco enter. Franco holds the big hats while Oscar tells Pablo, "When I was a boy I was orphaned - Franco too - God took our parents - maybe your granny will be happier if God takes her - Juan took care of us - he was a father to us - if God takes your granny, you'll be our son, you'll have three fathers, the Reyes brothers." "And a mama? Will I have a mother?" Enters Rosario.

Sarita reports back to Gab, the mission was a failure. Gab disowns Sofia yet again and orders Sarita to go back to her room and lock herself up. Sarita complies. Fern reassures Gab: "Sofia is used to luxury, she won't be able to tolerate the life of the socio-economically disadvantaged Reyes household. She'll be back, I promise."

Juan carries Sofia back to the bakery and drops her with kind of a plop onto Libia's bed, but phew, there is no miscarriage. "I'll go sleep on the sofa." "No, I'm not sick, just pregnant, I'm stronger than you think." They run out the hour with a series of happy flashbacks, reviewing all the happy moments we have already seen. So the anvil will drop some other night.

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Thank you for the recap, Melinama. I feel the mighty juggernaut working on here in tonight's episode. Quintina fussing so much about hiding Libia's photograph; Fernando offering to give the baby his name.

I think as soon as Sofía finds out Libia is Juan's sister and about the oath of vengeance the brothers swore, she will feel Juan's love is not true and return home; and she'll let Fernando give the baby his name.

With Tadeo blessing Juan and Sofía's love, I have a feeling they are just trying to make their situation as sweet as possible before they break them apart again, so at least viewers will remember what we're going to be working toward in the next few months.

From tonight's episode, I get the distinct vibe they might try to rehabilitate Gabriela; Agustín was so sorrowful about their relationship, and he's a sympathetic character.
 

It was somewhat amazing that throughout the whole commotion, Fernasndo was just there chilling with his cigar... I will be interesting seeing how this new dynamic with Sofia Staying with juan will unfold. Interesting indeed.

This was one of the few times that we get to see Don Agustin trully sad. I fear that redemption for Gabriela may not come until it is too late or until someone dies....
 

It was somewhat amazing that throughout the whole commotion, Fernando was just there chilling with his cigar... I will be interesting seeing how this new dynamic with Sofia Staying with juan will unfold. Interesting indeed.

This was one of the few times that we get to see Don Agustin trully sad. I fear that redemption for Gabriela may not come until it is too late or until someone dies....


Ibarramedia
 

I don't think Gabriela's shame was enough reason for Fernando to offer to give the child his name.

The whole time the horseback riding was going on in the house, I could see the wheels turning in Fernando's head. Does he want Sofía and her baby dead, like he said; or does he just want his obsession back.
 

Did Crabi have real heart palpitations when she worked herself up there on the balcony? So far no one except Gramps seems to doubt her spells, well, Sarita maybe a little, but if Crabi continues to pretend and the big one comes along, no one may believe her (just crying wolf.) Perhaps that may be her ironic demise in the end.

G in CA
 

Thanks, Mama Melinama. Great job.

I just LOVE Juan's horse, especially when it's in motion, or prancing. A majestic animal indeed.

Yeah, Jeri's right. We're not even halfway through this thing, which means we're being set up. Juan and Sofi's relationship will definitely be blown to hell again (and soon) before they are allowed to be truly happy, and the problem will probably be the info on Libia.

I vote for the "Woman Cries Wolf" death for Crabby.

That little Pablito actor had me teary. He's good. And Granny really looked bad. With Oscar and Franco, a well-done scene all around.
 

My "the anvil didn't fall tonight" comment reflected the feeling we all share that there will be much more torment in store. Plus all that "I'll be with you forever" stuff always precedes separation. Wasn't Pasion a refreshing exception? Once the galan got the girl back in his arms they were a team to the end.
 

Thanks Melinama, I agree that Pasion had a better idea with keeping the loving couple a team. So much more interesting and keeps us 'hooked' into wanting their happiness.

I've noticed that they are always making promises they can't keep. Swearing things will/won't happen - which are totally out of their control. Maybe it's me, but I'd rather not be given false hope or patronized.

Pablito sure did a great job with the deathbed scene. He's my favorite character. Can they just absorb him into their family without 'child services/adoption' folks getting involved? (Nevermind, it's telenovela land!) I like the way they offered their help without any real discussion. Just wanted to help the little guy, who was going to be all alone...
jb
 

butter biscuit queen, what kind of horse is Capriccio? He looks very sturdy, like part draft horse to me. The way they groomed his mane was quite dramatic.

And the scenes with Pablito were remarkable; that kid is very talented!

I adored Pasión, and I did appreciate the lack of drama in the protagonists' relationship; but on the other hand, there was a lack of drama in their relationship.

Jimena and Mario and Inés and Vasco had the most interesting relationships; and Inés and Vasco had the hottest love scenes.

I watched Camila and Ricardo's love scenes to see Fernando bare and to watch how he executed it; but there was little passion. There's a price to be paid for viewer's lack of anxiety.
 

Thanks for a great recap, Melinama. "Bouffy is inventing a wedding ceremony for when the bride already has a husband" --LOL! Tadeo needs a refresher course, preferably not in the same seminary.
 

Jeri: "Capricho" is a magnificent looking animal. I don't know much about breeds myself and as I was looking at those long, silky fetlocks of his I think perhaps he's a Friesian.
 

Thanks, Melinama.

Re the horse: somebody in an earlier episode thought it was an Andalusian, but, I'm with Jardinera because I think it's a Fresian, too. It's really hard to tell a breed from TV because the perspective is all off. But, in order to carry Juan who is a pretty big guy, it has to be substantial.

From lower Ala
 

Ah the Novela Father Tadeo. No way would a priest do what he did.He would have insisted she go to the convent until her annulment came through.I think for us North Americans, the flowery speeches seem to be a bit "High School" but that kind of drama is a bit more common than you might think.If you watch talk shows in Spanish, you will see professional people use the same expressions to describe their love life.Interesting to think that our story only covers about 4+ months time.To quote the Old Bard "They stumble who run fast."
 

Happy 4th everyone ! Melinama , thanks for that excellent recap. I didn't have to read your name at the end to know that you were the author. You have a very distinctive style. I've been away for about a week . I didn't go south of the border. I went north of the border to Toronto. [I was able to celebrate Cananda Day [aka the Canadian 4th of July minus the shooting part of independence.] There were carnival rides, a lovely fireworks display , and free concerts....but no passion play.] Anywho...when I got home last night, I immediately read the recaps for all the episodes that I missed, Then , at 9 pm, I got to see Mighty Joe Juan ride right into Gab's foyer on his magnicent steed to rescue the damsel in distress. Now, that's what I'm talking about. I admire that magnicent beast...and his horse, too. Every gal should have the opportunity to get rescued like that at least once in her lifetime. Picture it : You're in a meeting that is sooo long and boring that you had to hide your ballpoint pen for fear of poking your own eye out with it....when suddenly, the doors to the conference room open wide and in rides Mighty Joe Juan on his black stallion wearing his BIG HAT and his best rooster shirt and announces to all , ''I'm here for what's mine...Grab your briefcase, Babe. I am taking you away with from all this . We're going to bake bread and make love like it's 1999. And , later, maybe a fake marriage .'' Insert big sighhhh right here. ***Mad Buns Bess, ready to saddle up
 

Just want to mention that my daytime Univision novelas are being pre-empted by holiday programming.

The TiVo schedule shows Fuego as usual tonight; but I neglected to check earlier to see if it had also claimed the daytime novelas would be shown as usual.
 

MadBuns, you are hilarious!
 

Thank you, Anonymous 1.06 !!! P.S. I wish that you had a blog name so that I didn't have to call you Anonymous 1.06. Here, I'll offer you one : Cupcake 1.06. That was my choice until Cap'n Sylvia christened me Mad Buns.
 

Happy Independence Day to all of you blogger buds out there!

Since the previews said "mañana" instead of "lunes" there will be a new episodio tonight. Don't forget to set your recorders! I remember when Uni used to add 30 minutes of rerun/filler on a holiday and the first night after to allow viewers to "catch up". We used to hate that up here, but at least on the 4th of July when Uni knows 99% of us all will be out watching fireworks somewhere, I'd think it would have made more sense. Oh well.....just sayin'.
 

Great recap Melinama, thanks very much...and to all the others this week. I have been away from my TV on a family emergency for almost a week (all is well now), so was able to catch up via recaps. Soooo sorry I missed the seduction of Crabbi...(gag reflex kicking in here).
What I really wanted to see last night was Juan and Capricho go charging up the stairs together. Alas, only in my dreams...

"Creemelo"
 

Creemelo, thank you for including a name. Doesn't matter to me if it's in the body of the post, not a blogger name. Also doesn't matter if it's a bogus name - those are usually more fun. Either way, when you use a name, even in the body of your post (other anon's, please take note), we can refer to you by name. Thanks!

Case in point: can anyone find a YouTube clip of the handsome prince rescuing the damsel in distress for Creemelo?

Paula Polvorones aka Paula H
 

Jeri, I totally agree about the abbreviated suffering. There is something about that long, intense suffering that brings such intense emotion to the resolution.

It's like a rubber band. If you stretch a 2" rubber band to 3 inches and let it go, it flops back with a "blop." But if you stretch it to 10 inches and let it go, it snaps your fingers with a good sharp THWACK! The greater the pain, the greater the relief.

It's like the condensed telenovela DVD's. I was a big fan of LFMB (gross understatement). In addition to the complete 300 hr set, I also bought the condensed set and it was such disappointment. Why? All the suffering was cut out. You'd see a problem, someone would wring his hands over the problem, and then you would see the resolution. No endless pain and suffering. No crying in the rain (okay, in LFMB they didn't cry in the rain, they cried in front of the computer screen, but "crying in the rain" sounds more poetic). You didn't feel the character's pain. You were aware of it on a mental level, but it didn't touch you on an emotional level. Ergo when you saw the resolution, you didn't really care.

Novelas are melodrama. As much as I hate to admit it, we lose ourselves in them because they hurt so good.
 

Paula***I read your ''shoulders'' story...very nice. Memories are made of this , no ? I have 2 ''shoulders'' stories...one is about my hub and the other is about my beau when I was 16...that one involves a walk in the country, wild strawberries, and a rifle but no sombrero or horse.......mmmmm, memories...truth is stranger than telenovelas sometimes, no ???? ...you can't make this stuff up...enough said. ***mad buns bess, shoulder connoisseur
 

I disagree with the statement that the leads in Pasion had no chemistry. They had chemistry galore. In fact I thought those love scenes between Ricardo and Camila were the hottest love scenes I've ever seen in a novela. So I agree with blog mom Melinama about the leads being a team. I prefer that than stupid misunderstandings and lack of communication that causes the inevitable breakup of the leads and of course further misunderstandings and lack of communication until the big reunion at the end. JMO.
 

Anonymous : 3:04:00 I,too, prefer the type of relationship that Pasion showed. I thought the reunion was sweeter for their faithfulness. Watching suffering through idiocy just causes me ennui.
You (novela lead) claim you love someone "con toda mi alma" yet you will believe the first negative thing you hear and go off in a snit. I say you deserve each other.
I think that I am still watching this show simply for the great recaps.Recappers, les amo con todo mi alma .....
 

Creemelo/ Paula H: 47 (4) and
48 (1) at Youtube are below. If someone knows how to turn the URL into a short name, let me know, please.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J0bzoqEvsUY&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RXQUVJiZG9c
 

P.S. - the url's above are of Juan's great rescue on the marvelous steed, Capricho. It is not the best quality by far, but it does let you see the evil and abusive Crabiela slapping a weak Sofia whose pregnancy is endangered, the balcony scuffle, Eva's defiance, Feo's cigar-smoking nonchalance and Augie's triumphant smile.
 

Anon. 3:39pm -- Thanks, and just please, don't you leave in a snit, either! ~?8 > ))

You and the hubster have been on the same wavelength. He's been smirking at these famous last words throughout these past couple of telenovelas.
 

Hi Paula Polvorones:
Thanks for the comment. I did create a google blogger acct when first joining the "Caray" family, but had so much trouble getting signed on, password problems etc., that I gave up and started signing in the body of the comment.
Meanwhile, I agree that someone is going to die by "escaleracide" (falling off that top landing), but who? who?


"Creemelo"
 

Oh-- PS Calamity Cakes: THanks for the YouTube links, I could watch that horse all night!
"Creemelo"
 

anon 3:30, you won't find where I said Camila and Ricardo had no chemistry together. I thought they were nice together and did a good job.

However, the reason Pasión might be referred to as "refreshing" is precisely because few romances -- in any art form -- are constructed that way.

And they're not made that way for a reason. When the tension is resolved, that's when the viewer or reader is satisfied and story ends.
 

Creemelo, I'm sorry to hear about your family emergency and glad everything worked out. :-)

Jardinera, the previews saying "mañana" is a good sign. And I saw another black horse on a segue for Niña, Amada Mia. I only saw it quickly, and I wondered if it was the same one.
 

Thanks for the recap Melinama. I do think the prediction of Juan and Sofia's break up are true. And the Libia situation will be the reason. I have to admit I'm not into suffering particularly prolonged suffering. And to watch Sofia go back to the two people who basically want her and her child dead is over the top for me.
 

jeri, regarding Ric and Camila, they might have been boring if they got together and were happy the whole time. But there was tension from the outside until the end--Camila possibly going back to being a slave, Ric being shot and going to prison, etc. Personally, I found a couple mentally together but separated by others or circumstances much more satisfying than the usual "don't believe each other" stupidity. I love shows or books where the couple works together and it doesn't get old for me.

Thanks all you recappers for the hilarious recaps. I just can't take watching this show, but I love the recaps.

Pascal
 

Hola - I'm new here and love the site. Many thanks for all the work making this program understandable for me. I began to watch it in Mexico last spring when I was there for a few months. Didn't know the whole story line, but loved the fun of it. I'm attempting to learn Spanish and in Mexico they did NOT "buff" out the essentials of our major characters. A neighbor nearby was delighted to keep me informed. "You like "Sangre"!!! I tape the programs and try to absorb more Spanish, but these wonderful recaps and truly assisting my fun and learning.

I'm writing because I'm a former hunt rider who has had 18 horses and the discussion on horse breeds interested me. I saw a lot of Arab lineage in the Yucatan. I've just been surfing "Mexican horse breeds" and think the horses are the new Mexican breed (1972?)called AZTECA. They are a mixture that includes Andalusian (my first thought). I think they may be inclined to highlight this outstanding new Mexican breed on the program. Check them out on the web and see what you think.

And thanks again folks, LOVE the recaps.
 

CalamityCakes:
If you want to turn a word into a link, so that you don't have the whole URL: copy the URL. Select a word that you want to become the link and right click. One of the options is "hyperlink"--paste the URL into the space provided. The original word you selected now becomes the link.
Hope that works!
"Creemelo"
 

Here's a link to a screen cap of Juan riding Capricho into the hacienda. You horsewomen see what you think:

The gorgeous Capricho
 

Pascal, couples being separated by others or circumstances does not constitute sexual tension. It's inherently less interesting than tensions involving each other.

I thought the best moments Ricardo and Camila had together were when he was first wooing her; the kisses they shared in her parlor were hot.
 

Oh very cool Jeri! Capricho looks right at home strolling into the parlor.
"Creemelo"
 

Pascal, I agree with you on the outside tension being more interesting.You see, I have to actually like the characters to feel tension.Idiots, not so much.
Perhaps we are in the minority.MHM
 

I myself was wondering what the hell is a horse doing inside the house?

maybe the little donkey (ass) is next?

great recap; lame story

V.V.
 

Sign me up on the list of those who thought the love scenes between Ric and Camila were hothothot. I, too, liked the fact that they remained devoted to each other even when circumstances separated them. JMHO. The only hotter scenes for me were those between Manuel and Matilde in Amor Real. Different strokes for different folks, no ????
 

Jeri***Thanks for the photo of Juan and Capricho. I hope that Capricho left a little gift behind for Crabi before he helped Juan take Sofia away from the madness.
 

MHM, characters with good sexual tension are imminently likable; and conversely, using exterior tension doesn't prohibit them from behaving stupidly.
 

Well, I agree with MHM & co. about the couples that stay together. As much as I loved Destilando Amor, I HATED that Gavi and Rodrigo kept splitting up for petty reasons and refusing to listen to one another.

I can understand couples having problems, but if they don't learn something from them - especially if they keep believing the same known liars again and again instead of each other, or are getting victimized by incredibly unlikely coincidences - I get very impatient.

Since I know that the main couple is somehow going to end up together no matter how foolish and/or unlucky they are, or even if they're smart and they're being kept apart by a team of evil geniuses, I don't feel any tension over the breakup at all. Just exasperation.

It was such a treat and change of pace to see Camila and Ricardo face their problems as a team and fight together. I admire a strong relationship, and it just seems pointless to have them break up when you know they'll end up together anyway. Plus, a united team means bigger problems to face, and higher stakes. That's plenty of tension!

It seems inevitable that Sofi and Juan will have to break up for a while. I just hope it's one long plausible breakup and not a series of dumb yo-yo incidents. However, no matter what happens, whoever they meet, I will feel no anxiety or tension about it because I know they'll finally end up together. Honestly, I'd just as soon skip that phase of it.

Instead, I'll fixate on some more interesting subplot. I have noticed that the subplots always seem to ramp up during the breakup phase, and I think it's because I'm not the only person who doesn't have any interest in the main characters when they're apart.

It was the Frankie/Isadora/Sofia story, and the tequila, that carried me through Destilando. (Francisco was pretty awesome.) Hopefully, Feonando's little crime empire and gambling habit will get more active soon (it'll have to, with the Uribes' club opening soon), so I'll have something to keep my interest.
 

mad buns, LOL! A road apple would be a nice touch; hadn't thought of that.

As to Ricardo and Camila being hot: after they nearly did it on the sofa, it was downhill. Their relationship was pleasant, but no reason for viewers to be there in the bedroom, except for eye candy. :-)
 

Oh, the sexual tension between Ricardo and Camila. I agree it was pretty weak at first, but they more than made up the difference before long.

However, even if the love scenes had been awful, I would have felt it a fair trade, given the rest of their relationship. The love scenes make up only a tiny percentage of the time we watch, and they're not really why I watch.

HOWEVER I know that there are people who watch telenovelas mainly for the romance, in which case I totally get why this would be a deal-breaker.

I started watching soaps/telenovelas/etc. mainly because I was fascinated by the scheming and bitchery. I was actually surprised to find that so many viewers really are in it for the relationships, kisses, weddings, and babies (while I thought these things were only there to motivate the scheming and bitchery).

It can't be easy for the producers to please both groups of people, yet somehow they do.
 

Julie, it was Charles Dickens's philosophy to "make them laugh, make them cry, make them wait."

Camila and Ricardo got together halfway through the show; that's essentially the problem, since it's supposed to be a romance.

I enjoyed the show as another genre, though; as an adventure or even family saga.
 

Julie, LOL, I wrote that last post before I read your last post. How about that.
 

I guess that is where I differ from many people--I don't think the romance ends when a couple gets together, I think it just gets better. I've loved seasons of US shows where the couple has finally gotten together that other people thought was boring, so I am probably in the minority. Plus, romance is what draws me into any kind of show, the rest is secondary for me.

Pascal
 

Pascal, I would agree with that -- in real life. But entertainment is not real life, and people turn to it when they want something besides real life.

Romance is what draws me to a show, too; but unless they have something happening in their relationship, there's no point. They're not real people; I'm not going to watch them just be pleasant to each other without something going on to make it more interesting.

And you notice that hardly ever happens; the moment some character in an ongoing weekly drama gets attached, they start fiddling with it. People don't want to see the main characters static. They're dynamic, and they have to move on.
 

jeri, I'm not talking about a show where all the couple does is coo at each other :-). Sure there needs to be something going on, but I prefer problems from the outside to problems from within the couple. That is why I loved shows like Hart to Hart (going back a bit, I know), where the main couple was solid but the murder mysteries gave them something to do. I guess we will just have to agree to disagree.
 

Sorry, forgot to put Pascal on the last post!
 

Pascal, yes, and that is different, because it's no longer a romance. The mystery gives them something to hang the story on. Romantic suspense has a lot of fans.
 

jeri, do you think you and I the only people left online tonight? :-)

So I guess the difference between us is that you believe the romance genre has to end once a couple gets together, but I believe it can still be considered a romance after the couple is together but has outside problems to deal with. Hart to Hart may not have been a good example, because the couple started out together, but I didn't watch it for the murder mystery :-)

Pascal
 

I'm still here. I'm a fan of the longterm romance, too. Probably because I am a hopeless romantic who is still with the guy I fell in love at first sight with two weeks before my 17 birthday. He is still my novio .
 

Mad Buns, how great that you have a relationship like that. I am a hopeless romantic too, but I pretty much have to get my romance vicariously.

Pascal
 

Thanks for getting to Jeri's question, y'all, seeing as I'm late getting back into the conversation (way busy out eating barbecue today and increasing my waistline). I do believe Capricio is a Friesian. And I've seen it spelled both ways--Fresian and Friesian. Hm.

Here's a nice page I found at Ask.com about them (IF the link will work, that is.)

http://www.ask.com/pictures?l=dir&o=12770&q=friesian&qsrc=2058&qid=6854B03BB6BA3A69CFC5FBFC533AAC67&pstart=0&page=1
 

Let's try this again... with me trying Jeri's trick. Click on my name this time.
 

Yeah, Cami and Ric were hot knocking boots. But it was surprising how HOT Vasco and Ines turned out to be as well. HOTTTT.

I don't want NoneFerNando to get his hands on Hacienda Elizondo, I really don't. But just think... if he did... he'd have the power to force Crabby to strip between the pyros at the Bad Love Bar for her room and board. Heh.

You hold onto that novio, madbuns!
 

Thank you butter biscuit for the link to the photos. The Friesian is certainly a very beautiful, powerful looking horse and E Y deserves credit for being a skilled horseman.

G in CA
 

Paula H.: I also bought the LFMB condensed version and found it wanting. Where did you get the 300 hour version?

By the way, Im thinking that Mapache(or whatver his name is) was Luigi's father in LFMB.
NJ Sue
 

Pablito is a sweetie and a good little actor, too. Just one more member of the happy Reyes household, once his abuelita is gone.
Thanks for that recap, Melinama.
La Paloma
 

NJ Sue, e-mail me for it (and anyone else interested). I found it very satisfying. And you're right. Mapache did play Luigi's dad. I didn't make that connection until you reminded me.
 

Oops. I hit send too fast. Paulah88@hotmail.com

Paula
 

After looking at the links for the Azteca horse and the Fresian horse -- it's kind of hard to tell.
Though I'm inclined towards the Azteca -- it looks Big Enough to hold Mighty Joe Juan -- and it's apparently bred to prance run the way Capricho does in the show when they show Juan racing to the Hacienda.

I also wouldn't be surprised if they are showcasing the Azteca, the first Mexican bred horse, as it's a beautiful animal and very special!

Thanks! Anon 7:40 pm on the 4th -- great tip!
 

I think Luigi's dad in LFMB was played by another actor who has a thin face but with less lines and saggy skin. There is a close resemblance between the actors. They both looks like the stereotypical villain type. The LFMB actor is fairly familiar in telenovelas and I have seen him in American movies but, sorry, I do not recall his name.

G in CA
 

By American, I mean U. S.

G in CA
 

Re: the horse's breed - the reason I tend to think Friesian is due to the silky long fetlocks on Capricho which are generally left unshaved on Friesians but appear to have been shaved off on the Aztecas. Except for that I couldn't really say for sure.
 

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