Caray, Caray!

Hola, PEAM Peeps! The recap is up Y'all please enjoy ; )
 

After giving birth, a lot of women want to look their sexiest, so usually wear super tight, sexy clothes. Guess Alma is no different with that totally office-inappropriate completely backless dress. lol
 

Madelaine, and you called that the short version? You covered it all and I really enjoyed your tone!
Thanks.

Guess we didn't have enough hospital scenes so they had to send Rogelio off to one. Another character at death's door routine. At least El Monstruo was decent to Rogelio.

Madelaine, I join you in your "Hmmmm" after that converaation with the tearful Veronica and Valentina. I sure hope Jesus doesn't let Valentina go off by herself with her mom or that Valentina doesn't sneak off by herself.

It was good to see that the writers did not forget about Ray.
Jesus and Alma's place is packed to the gills. I wonder if Chatita will move in too with Panfilo once they are married since she is doing so much of the babysitting.

About 13 more episodes? I think I can do that. Not a bad episode.

Jarifa
 

Thanks so much for this recap, jarifa.

Ditto about Alma's dress. Backless? In the office? She did look lovely -- but not appropriate for the new regional director.

The beating of Rogelio was too realistic. I had to cover my eyes. For Pato's & Fernandito's sake I hope he makes it.

I,too, am nonplussed by Veronica's phone call to Val. I don't know what it means but I know it won't be good.

Thirteen more, eh? Unlike many of you I'm going to miss this -- especially some of my favorites.

Güera
 

Thanks, Madelaine. Very thorough and excellent retelling...I think it will be awhile before I crave picadillo.

Really? More hospital scenes? We haven't met the show's quota yet? Maybe this will be big points toward Rog paying off his karmic debt and he won't have to linger in jail forever, though. What a shame for his pretty face to be all smashed up.

The wardrobe people continue to perplex. A new nursing mom in a backless, no-bra, formfitting dress? Okay.

Poor Pato needs to use some of the money Rog has left to hire a night nanny so she can at least get a little sleep. Kind of rough to suddenly have custody of a newborn, with no partner around and without having prepared for parenthood.

I hope Vero is arrested before the weekend. I've had enough of the torturing of Val.
 

Thanks, Mads! I think I'll skip this one and just rely on your excellent recap. I hate prison drama.

Blue Lass
 

P.S. Ha ha, I'm the only person I know who says, "That don't make no nevermind." Well, I was. :)
 

Thanks Mads, great recap! Very thorough but with a fun and lively pace.

I'm so glad Rai is back. I was worried that the writers had forgotten about her.

Ugh. It feels like just yesterday that we were fed way too much picadillo.
 

Poor little Val. Thirteen more episodes? That's plenty of time for another kidnapping. NOT! Please don't do it writers.
 

I just love this comedy!
 

Wow Madeleine! Awesome recap.

I'm with Guera, I had to turn away during the Rog beat down. Always hated the character of Yuri and his stupid bully-bluster. (Hoping his anvil is super-sized. )My theory on the beat-down--poor Erick, you can't touch FC's pretty face, sure it's in the contract, so he gets the writer's bent up frustration to do major damage to one of the male characters.

So this is what Rog gets as his comeuppance. Virus has actually killed or had people killed. What is she going to get as her anvil?

Poor Pati--she tries so hard and always gets the fuzzy end of the lollipop. They better not have the Rog character ( who became one of my favs) meet his maker. This is SUPPOSED to be a comedy. Enough with people getting offed.

13 episodes - yeah I agree Sylvia, just enough time to pull poor Val into another ridiculous, psyche-scarring plot. Just NO!!! (But I know they will).

Daisynjay
 

Mads...I just have to say that your ENERGY just jumps off the page when you write. I could really feel it in the opening paragraph and all through the rockin' recap. Thanks so much.

Count me in with all the rest who couldn't bear to watch Rogelio's bloody beatdown. My Columbian friend and her daughter were over, we were trying to have some soup and salad while watching and EWWWWWWW!, have to avert our eyes or risk losing our dinner.

Waiting anxiously for Comedy to reappear in this one. Where are thou, Comedy?
 

Oh, and a big shout-out to TJ for Thursday's clever recap. "She and her shoes are scary." Yep, Little Lu, we think so too!
 

They brought me around to love to love Rogelio and now Ury gets away with this? NO. Ury's character is tiresome. He could just slip on a banana peel and disappear now as far as I'm concerned.

I'm a little disappointed that Val hasn't heard a peep from her Papa Elias during all this trauma.

I do love this show, but there are quite a few "loose ends" that I guess I will have to spin into stories of my own.
 

Thank you, Madelaine for your very thorough recap. When does Uri's anvil drop???
This was a sad episode, no One deserves to get beaten senseless.
 

Thank you, Madelaine for your very thorough recap. When does Uri's anvil drop???
This was a sad episode, no One deserves to get beaten senseless.
 

Mads thanks so much for this recap. ITA w/TJ, this was a sad episode. While Rogelio did some bad stuff, he didn't deserve to be beaten senseless.

Does anyone know what the next tn is in this time slot?
 

Mads- Many thanks for this great recap. I really needed it because I forgot to set up the recording. But I'm glad I missed Rogue's beatdown. Yikes!

 

In my imagination, Val and Elias are videochatting two or three times a day offscreen. What a stupid production decision to get rid of him. There's no way that character would have just up and left his daughter, especially in the middle of so much traumadrama. They could have written some plots to keep him in the story but never at the same location at the same time as Certain Other People.
 

Julia, thanks for setting that image up. I'll work with imagining frequent video chats that are never mentioned in other people's dramas. That is much better than never mentioning that Val just got abandoned by her Papa Elias. (And it took me so long to learn to say AY-le-is instead of uh-LE-us, for Elias.)
 

Great writing as always, Mads. I am greatful for the full bodied, humor laden recaps. I am grateful I didn' actually see this one for the Rogelio beatdown. Ugh!!

I will keep this short so I don't lose my connection again. I totally enjoyed all the recaps this week. Many thanks to the All-Star PEAM for each one.

Where's the comedy damwit?
 

Thank you, Madelaine. You do write affectionately about the characters. I join the others in thinking the scene of Ury beating up Rogelio was too graphic. I didn't see the point to that. We're already on Rog's side. That Chatita is funny. I think the ongoing gag about her bad memory is one that doesn't lose its punch.

 

I know objection is futile and all, but I hate U.S. television decency standards. Lovey-dovey stuff has to get chopped to bits, babies' nethers and random background artworks are blurred, yet it's okay to show us, not just once but repeatedly, a very graphic scene of a woman getting shot and dying? And then a guy getting beat to the verge of death? How is this an okay thing to show, much less in a family-hour "comedy"? There is something very wrong with these standards.
 

I completely agree, Julia. My on-going complaint about television is that there's too much violence and not enough nudity. I found the scene with Rogelio disturbing. and unnecessary.
 

I missed this one on friday and I needed to read the recap to be ready for to-night.
Both my nails and pencils are sharp!

So now Valentina sleeps more than 10 hours a day? Or now that Killerónica is not watching she gets to go to bed late? Was she practising on the keyboard until midnight? Maybe this is the ''comedy'' part. Keeping us guessing...

Nothing surprises me anymore ;-(
 

The beatdown was just another example of many examples violence in this "comedy." They just should have called it a drama and cut out the silliness. It would have played much better and might have played to the strengths of the actors. A combo package of comedy and drama is very difficult to pull off and in my opinion were not successful.

Jarifa
 

Pablo, there's always a point in ultimas where someone says, "Nothing surprises me anymore" -- and it turns out not to be true. Hold onto your hat!
 

Good Morning Y'all and thanks so much for your kind words.

Anon 4:14:

I will never understand the clothing that some of the women in TNs wear to the office. I too agree about the backless dress.

Jarifa:

I'm with you about Chucho and Alma's place. It is packed! I don't think Chatita would give up her place. She just spends all her time at Alma's what with one thing and another, lol.

Guera:

I don't know if I will miss this one. It went so far off the track. Especially regarding poor Val.

Julia:

Agree about the hospital scenes. We have had way too many of them. Ditto with the torturing of Val. Enough is enough of that already

Blue:

I actually got that phrase from my Grandpa. He used to say it all the time. He was from Texas and had some great Texisms ; ) I have only ever heard people in the south say it.

Cap'n:

I too am glad they didn't forget about Rai. She just seems to pop up every now and then.

DaisynJay:

I too don't get it about Rog. Killeronica is way, way worse. I too wonder what her anvil is gonna be.

JudyB:

What comedy? Lol. I think they mis-billed this as a comedy. Seems more like a drama with funny bits thrown in here and there.
 

fishknits:

So agree with you about Yuri. Enough I say. Throw the book at him! I'm with you about Elias too.

TJ:

Completely agree with you. Very sad epi, no comedy whatsoeva! I too want his anvil already.

Karen:

Agree with you too. Rog so didn't deserve this. As far as what TN is next, we really don't know at this point.

Vivi:

It's good you missed this one. Did I just say that? Rog's scenes were just horrific. I wouldn't have watched it either, but had to recap it.

Julia:

I too like the picture of Val and Elias video chatting. I also agree they could have done scenes by video so as not to have contact with Certain People.

fishknits:

I lol'd about your pronunciation.I do like the Spanish pronunciation much better.
 

Ithabill:

So agree with you about Chatita. I do like her little schtick about always forgetting something. Her chamberpot scenes are the best though!

Cheryl:

So with you about where's the comedy damit! The only scenes I find funny are Julio and Aida trying to do the deed and constantly being interrupted.

Pablo:

Keep those nails sharp. You get the beyotch splapfest they showed in the previews. I am looking forward to that!

Julia:

I too don't get the way they cut things. I remember from AV they showed graffiti on the side of a building that was ahem, nastay, and cut the main couple's love scenes to shreds. Go figure. And as far as this being a family show? If I had a small child, like say the age of Val, I wouldn't let them watch this one y punto!
 

Just a few of my thoughts. I too agree with all of you about Rog. He so didn't deserve this type of beatdown. I was really liking the way he was atoning for all he'd done to his brother, Chucho, Alma and Val, the doll decapitation comes to mind with Val. Not only was this a horrific scene, it was so mismatched. Yuri is a huge thug and Rog in comparison is a lot smaller. What I don't get is that we all know how dangerous Yuri is. They didn't have to drive home the point by this beatdown. The violence in this one, especially against Alma, Val, and Rog is way over the top. Maybe this producer thought this was okay because of the way violence is portrayed here in the U.S. on tv and video games. This is supposed to be a comedy. It's certainly not one to me. It's more of a drama.

The funniest TN in recent memory is Dinero. Now that one was funny. Sure it had drama but the things Rafa got into , and the screaming Viki, Viki, Viki, though tiresome were funny.
 

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Thanks, Madelaine. You really had your work cut out for you this time - this epi was unpleasant to watch. Thanks for not dwelling too much on the negative, because there sure was plenty.

There's nothing like watching a man be used as a pinata. Ha, ha, hilarious, not. I feel semi-confident that Rog will survive, but don't see how he and Paty can have a remotely happy ending unless Cantu figures a way to get him out of prison. Does Rog have any additional info about Nick Donovan that he can bargain with?

I have no idea what Virus is up to... oh hey, I have an idea. It's her recording that got Rog in trouble, but what about Nick? Have they nabbed him yet? If he's still free and he finds out that she got him on tape too, her days will be numbered. Let's hope it's a small number, and that Valentina is nowhere nearby when her number comes up.

Daisy - "fuzzy end of the lollipop" - LOL!!
 

Now Killeronica, she looked like she was having a change of heart, but I sooo don't trust her as far as I can see her. I keep remembering when she put up that "Wall of Doom" she included Val up there. I don't want her anywhere near Val at all. I think Chucho is smart enough to make sure she is never alone with Killeronica. I just don't have a good feeling. I too hope Killeronica gets the anvil with no one near her when she gets it. She deserves a huge piecart, filled with her well deserved anvils, all by herself!
 

Wellllll Killeronica may actually have been sincere... sincerely lonely... but again, it would still be all about HER and how crummy she feels not having Valentina around when she wants her, or whatever it is that upsets Killeronica.

It is, and never has been, about being worried about Vale's welfare, wanting to do something nice for her, or anything like that. So, maybe the tears were for real, but I doubt there was any change of heart.
 

Totally agree. Maybe Killeronica is now to the point where she realizes she has lost everything except the money. I agree with you about it being all about Killeronica. She MUST BE OBEYED or else y punto. I don't think she gives a fig about Val, or she wouldn't have put her up there on that "Wall of Doom".
 

Veronica doesn't give a flying damn about anyone and in the long term I don't think she even cares much about herself. I'm betting on her committing suicide, possibly in front of Jesus and Valentina.
 

Vero: Murder/suicide? What better revenge against Jesus than to take his child away permanently.

Realistically speaking, Elias would have come back during all this drama. Barring that, Jesus should have sent Vale to him.

Liked that they had Susana’s character really upset about Rog. That was a realistic reaction.

Poor Rog. I was beginning to like him.

And who would have thought Cantu would be so upset.

Kudos to Maria Elisa—good job in that last scene.

Nanette
 

UA: I thought suicide at first, but when I read the recap and what she'd actually said, I thought maybe murder/suicide.

I know this is a minor point. And to my credit, I did think of it before his beatdown. When Rog gets out of jail (I'm assuming he will-unless this TN goes even more off the rails), what is going to do for a living? He can't go back to Avon. He'll have a record. They can't live on Pato's receptionist salary.
 

Urban:

I never thought of that. Good Heavens, please writers don't go that route, please!

Nanette,

I was quite surprised by Cantu's reaction myself. I thought the guy was a big joke, but he actually really cares about his buddy Rog. Pato did have a tremendous reaction. But I did like the way Ferny and Alma both held on to her. Speaking of going off the rails, how much more jumping of the shark can this TN go? We've had enough of the sturm and drang already!
 

Rog has a good education and some practical business experience. It's not the most wholesome business experience, but it can probably translate to something constructive. There's got to be a legitimate way to apply the skills that are involved in money-laundering.

OR, if he has any money left after all of this (or if a friend will float him a loan), Rog could start a new business - an upscale kennel for doggies to stay when their humans are out of town.
 

Oh, I laughed about the kennel, but I can see Rog doing that. I bet Chucho would float him a loan, now that they are somewhat buds.
 

Oh, yes; PLEASE can Chucho send Val to live with Elias until Vero self-destructs? I mean, Val's cute and all, but she isn't really THAT interesting as a character, and I wouldn't miss her terribly if she took some time off. Plus, then we wouldn't have to see the idiocy of the romance with the smarmy tweenage lounge lizard.

I think Chucho and Delia have way better chemistry than Chucho and Alma. Maybe they should all shuffle again before the finale, and Chucho and Delia can end up together, and Alma with Elias.
 

Julia: I would miss Vale. I really like her interactions with Jesus, especially. However, they haven't utilized her that much lately, so her removal wouldn't be too jarring. I agree about the creepy Kiko situ. I think we're supposed to think of them as mini-Jesus/Alma. Ugh!
 

I really thought these writers would go with a pairing(for kids that is) of a Temo/Mili Amors type thing, like UFCS did. I agree Kiko is wayyy to old for Val and those scenes are creepy.
 

I'm at a point where, as long as Valentina doesn't elope with Quico or get killed, I figure she will come out okay no matter what happens to her. After all, if she hasn't turned rotten yet after all she's been through so far, she ought to be able to survive the next couple of weeks of nonsense.