Saturday, May 30, 2009
MEPS 05/29/09: Bombshells and Battle Plans
Capítulo 74
First a quick bit of video rewind from the night before: Babs catches Fernanda in the entry hall after they both return to the house (unbeknownst to each other) from the restaurant. She purposely throws a dig at Fer and asks if Errorika is really planning a wedding and intends on marrying Fr/Eduardo. Fer begs off from answering her loaded question and heads off to find Santiago. Gonzo shuffles in and finds Babs standing there. He asks how the meeting at the Association went. Babs feigns exhaustion and they head upstairs to bed.
First a quick bit of video rewind from the night before: Babs catches Fernanda in the entry hall after they both return to the house (unbeknownst to each other) from the restaurant. She purposely throws a dig at Fer and asks if Errorika is really planning a wedding and intends on marrying Fr/Eduardo. Fer begs off from answering her loaded question and heads off to find Santiago. Gonzo shuffles in and finds Babs standing there. He asks how the meeting at the Association went. Babs feigns exhaustion and they head upstairs to bed.
Eduardo gets home and enters his dark hallway. He finds Estev, aka Dewey Duckworth, hiding in the shadows with a baseball bat in his hands (¡Qué absolutamente Americano!) and wonders what’s up. Duckworth answers with a huge smile on his face, “Have I got a surprise for you!”
Fer rushes into Santiago’s room to ask if Rory ever made it back. She finds him painting over Aurora’s portrait with thick black paint. (Yeah. He wants it all, as The ‘Stones would say, painted black.....) Tearfully he tells her that Rory gave him the ultimate (pardon the pun once again) brush-off and dumped him for another guy. He (sniffle, sob, sniffle) can’t understand why.
Rory, though, is back at the “HOT-L Jairo” arguing with Dominga, trying to talk the porcine lush into their leaving for home that night on the next bus if she really hasn’t enough money for two to stay in the room. When Rory tries to leave, Jairo appears from the john and he and Dominga box her in. In between demoniacal fits of laughter they tell her they’ve made plans instead to pimp her to Jairo’s customers that night.
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Upstairs in their bedroom, Babs questions Gonzo about Fer’s response when he told her that Babs didn’t have a good feeling about Franco Santoro. He’s saved from another…er… barbed and bruising inquisition from his better half by a knock on the door from Camilo. Cad tells his papi that he needs to discuss something with his step-mami, but in private. Babs laughs a little awkwardly and tells the befuddled Gonzo that they’re “cooking up a conspiracy.” (This guy runs a business empire? Hubby is convinced a shift-manager at Dairy Queen could run things better.) She and Cad leave.
Back at the HOT-L, Jairo has Venus take Rory to the dressing room to get her properly dressed for her premier. Spare the skirt and plaster the powder and paint.
Santiago is now on the emotional rocks. He needs Fernanda to help him figure out what went wrong with Rory. How could she have led him on like that when she really loved another guy the whole time? Nanda’s got no clue but says she understands the pain he’s feeling.
Dewey shows Eddie the barn where he’s hidden their intruder’s car. Ed roots around inside the auto and is impactado to find Gonzo’s name on the ownership papers he found in the glove box.
Alone in the study, Cad tells Babs about the stolen car. She tells him to invent something about going to see a girl somewhere because if he tries to explain how the car was stolen it will give him away. Cad reminds her they’re both in this together and that Babs promised to take the blame for anything that went wrong. She says fine and asks if he learned anything about Santoro. He tells her he found zilch.
Back in the barn at Las Animas, Estev describes the guy who broke into the house. The suntan tips them off. It was Camilo Elizalde for sure. They share a conspiratorial chuckle or three. Eddie says now they have Cad in the palm of their hands. Dewey wonders if he’s going to squeeze Cad into admitting he was there. Ed says no, he’d rather have Cad explaining to his daddy what the president of Grupo Lactos’ car is doing there at Las Animas. However, on second thought, he doesn’t plan to do that either. No, he’d rather wait and see what Cadmilo is willing to do to get his father’s car back.
Speaking of Gonzo’s unfortunate Sunkist progeny, Babs devises a story and takes him back to her bedroom to back up her version of events.
Meanwhile, Duckworth and Eddie discuss the possible connection of what they now know to the break-in from earlier that evening. They decide that Cad probably was the one who hired Manzanares to investigate Franco Santoro but that Barbara Greco was behind it. Ed says there is still another thing he’s got to do: he’s got to visit Graciela Palafox because he wants to know why she had his mother’s little chest. His mother put her original letter to him in it, but he hopes there might also be at least one of the letters Nanda wrote him in it. Waxing woefully rosy-eyed, Ed says that now he knows Nanda did write him, being able to read one of her letters would at least put his soul at peace.
Dewey thinks it might only stir up Eddie’s deeply buried feelings for Fernanda and suggests that it would only serve to torment him even more. Ed says he would prefer that to living with the uncertainty. In any case, Ed continues, he still needs to know what this Artemio Bravo has to do with it all. He reminds Duckworth that Ciro’s widow mentioned Bravo’s name to Lili last time she visited her. Both of them now figure this means Bravo has had a major role in the perplexing puzzle and Ed is determined to know how Bravo is involved.
At the same time Bravo is on the phone putting the screws to Dominga. Dominga tells him she found Aurora at the hacienda and took her. He warns her not to be so careless with the girl again and orders her to head back to Purificacion with her that same night. Ruh-Roh! Dominga chokes and her eyes go wide. So much for those pimping profits she was planning on. She stammers out a “whatever you say, sir” to him. Bravo then gripes at Dominga for stealing Rebeca Sanchez’s handkerchief way back when. Dominga swears she didn’t steal a thing; that it was inside the little girl’s clothes when she arrived. Bravo doesn’t want to hear her sniveling excuses. He informs her that just to make sure that Aurora really is back with her, he’s bringing the next money-gram to Dominga’s in person. After Bravo hangs up, Dominga chortles to herself that Don Artemio will just have to excuse her, but not even God himself will be taking the little business deal she’s got cooked up away from her. ¡No, señor!
Down in the cantina’s dressing room Venus explains the rules for Wrasslers’ “working girls” to Rory. She adds that Jairo probably paid her grannie lots of cash for her and thinks he’s probably going to give her to Graciano Cueto for the night. Cueto, she says, will pay any amount to have a virgin. Venus’ only words of advice to Rory: get good and drunk so you can make it through the ordeal.
Rory pleads with Venus to help her, but Venus has already been there, done that, and got the tee-shirt—and she threw that back. Rory tries explaining that she escaped from the woman’s house because she was going to sell her to another man. She was only back with Dominga because she tricked her (a-gain) by promising to tell her where Rory could find her mother. Rory just didn’t realize this was the high price she’d have to pay for it. (Rory, hon, it’s just like the old saw says: Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice—well, you got the idea, girlfriend. It’s survival of the fittest here, and you seem long on dumb genes.) Venus reconsiders.
Rigo bangs on the door just then to tell Venus to hurry up with the new girl because Cueto is about to show up. Venus has decided to help Rory after all. She tells Rory she’ll need a bit to figure out how she can help her escape, but in the meantime they’ll both have to pretend they’re doing what they’re supposed to.
Back at the hacienda, Nanda is on suicide watch with Santi and tells him not to jump to conclusions. (Hide the knives along with the shoelaces, cuz we don’t need him going Van Gogh on us.) Rory didn’t seem the type to play games like that, she says, sympathetically. Santi replies that he thought Rory was special and now he thinks he made a mistake. Fernanda suggests he’ll see things differently in the morning, that he can go find her and talk things over. He says nope. She should get married to “the boyfriend she’s known all her life” and be very happy with him. He’s done with her.
Across the hall in their bedroom, Babs tells Gonzo that his car was stolen off the street outside the Association. She starts into whimper mode and says that she didn’t want to upset him with everything else he’s been going through. She thought Cad could help her but he wasn’t able to, so now she is embarrassed to have to tell him. “When I realized my SUV wasn’t working, I should have just called a cab.” Gonzo tells her the important thing is that she is all right. It occurs to him to ask (eventually) why she didn’t call Lucio. Cad chokes down a guffaw. Babs wings it. “Well that was something else I didn’t dare to bother you with.” Lucio, as it turns out, was the one who stole her necklace but now he’s where he deserves to be (i.e., JAIL). Gonzo says, well at least they now know it wasn’t Damian.
Gonzo picks up his clothes to get dressed. Babs wants to know what he is doing. Gonzo says the two of them are going to go down to the police station to file a report. (Query: do you go to jail in Mexico for filing false police reports?) Babs’ eyes go wide and she looks over at Cad. Cad looks back at her and rolls his eyes like, “Oh well, this is your mess. You deal with it.”
At Las Animas, Fr/Ed makes a late-night phone call to Fer to give her the lowdown about her daddy's car being at his place and why. He says no, it wasn't her daddy there, that Cadmilo was the one in his house snooping around again. Estev heard the noise and his description of the man was the same as Cad’s. Estev took the car and hid it from him, but she's not to let a soul know it. Fr/Ed threatens that if word gets out he will have no option but to cancel the negotiations with Grupo Lactos. Nanda’s silence is guaranteed. Then he tells her they need to meet with each other as soon as possible. She says she’ll be over in the morning and hangs up before Gonzo can catch her on the phone with him.
Gonzo asks Fer to borrow her car because his was stolen while Babs had it. Fer knows something’s up because Fr/Ed just told her he had her daddy's car at his place and that Cad was driving it. Cad, in the meantime, is moving fast to cover Babs’ story about the SUV being on the fritz. He is outside cutting wires on the SUV’s engine. Inside the house, Gonzo explains to Fer that since Babs’ SUV isn’t working, they need Fer’s to go to the police station and report the theft.
Back at Mud Wrasslers’, meanwhile, things are jumpin’. Rory is being pawed at right and left. If that isn’t enough, Rigo tries to drag her off to the “Luxury Room” where he tells her she’s supposed to keep Customer Numero Uno, Graciano Cueto, “entertained.” Just then Carpio and Nestor show up asking Rigo for Jairo. Rigo lies about Jairo not being there because he realizes these guys are the ones who've been threatening Jairo. He pretends to go looking for him to find out when he’s supposed to get back, and then goes straight away to warn Jairo the two are there looking for him. Carpio and Nestor figure Rigo is lying and that means only option #2 is left.
Gonzo says Bab’s found out the car was stolen from her while she was at the Association. Fer questions Babs about how she got home. The Barbot makes a quick save and says she called Cad. Fer asks what car he used to pick her up. Barbot makes another quick save and says since her SUV wasn’t running they called her a taxi to get home in. Fer puts it all together and realizes then that Babs must surely be in on it with Cadmilo or else they’re covering for Cad.
In the city at Vlad’s apartment, Damn is explaining why Vlad cannot take back what he said about Flor. Damian is sure that Flor will be fired from Lactos since she cannot be transferred to another plant or given another position. Vlad feels guilty and says it isn’t right because she’s only an innocent bystander in all of this. Dam explodes. (Will he or won’t he throw that coffee cup?) He screams at Vlad. “Blockhead!! You’ve only just started there but you think you can do whatever the heck you want? To act on your own? Are you crazy, sick, or what?” Vlad, our little gentleman, politely stands up to his BFF. “-N-n-n-o. I (deep breath) was simply making a comment --and enough of the scolding already.” Damn astutely powers down the pitch and begins on a different tack to avoid further antagonizing his humble-mumble host. What the two of them are planning to do, clarifies Damian, is intricate work, and they simply cannot afford to botch it. Flor’s been there for years and if they are going to succeed in getting Any Balls to throw her out of the company it should take everyone by surprise. Vlad is going to need to take advantage of the chaos they’ve caused.
Vlad cringes at the thought that he’s now supposed to become Grupo’s receptionist too. Damn pokes Vlad’s wooden noggin a few times. “Pay attention! Pay attention so you don’t make a single mistake!” (Laurel and Hardy ain’t got nothin’ on these two. This side of Viewerville is practically rolling in the aisles.) “Flor keeps the keys to every one of the offices and she's responsible for the company safe --and a number of other important little things. So while Anibal tries to find a replacement, we’ve got to intervene and keep him from getting in control of those things.” To do it, Vlad and Dam will need to take full advantage of the chaos and discord that follows.
It hits Vlad then that Flor is actually the “master key” to the whole of Grupo Lactos. (Pity her pay doesn’t reflect it.) Dam applauds him for finally beginning to comprehend what the next step in their plan must be. “Well, ok,” agrees Vlad. Our adorable teddy-bear, Vlad, dressed for beddie-bye in his baby blue jammies and sipping at his Yogi’s Bedtime best valerian herbal, seems a bit lost discussing the intricacies of corporate espionage with his machinating mentor. He is not really quite sure what that “next step” is (join the crowd), but he seems to be game and up for it.
Back at Hacienda Elizalde: Pris joins a pensive Nanda in the living room for a late night heart-to-heart. Nope. No word from Damian. Yep, hard to understand how a decent guy like that could do such a crummy thing. “Like we’re talking about two different people,” says Fer. Talk changes to Fer running into Vlad at the office. Prissy confirms that he used to work for Pris’ family. Pris asks if she thinks he’s talked to Damian recently. Fer says neither he nor Damian’s mother seem to have heard a thing from Dam. Talk turns then to the pregnancy (yawn) and Fer thinks it will make Pris and AB’s relationship better. Pris disagrees, saying Anibal married her without being in love with her. She’s tried to win his affection, but it’s been useless. Fer asks if she loves AB. Pris says it may sound crazy, but she’s learned to love even his hating her. (When you’re right, you’re right, Pris. That is crazy.) Fer tries to comfort her SIL.
Back at the Hot-L, Jairo instructs Rigo to tell Carpio and Nestor he called to say he went on vacation. Rigo leaves and Jairo continues boozing it up with Dominga. He snickers. “Let those two nobodies rot!” They both drink on it.
Downstairs in the bar, Venus tells Rory that as soon as Rigo gets distracted she’ll unlock the doors to the place so Rory can escape. She warns Rory that she better make sure she disappears completely so he doesn’t wring Venus’ neck.
Carpio meanwhile, sets a time bomb in the cantina’s locker room. He calls Nestor on his cell and tells him that in two minutes he is to shut off the lights and meet him back out in the truck. Venus maneuvers Rory closer to the back door. On Carpio’s way out of the place, Rigo stops him to say that Jairo left word he’s on vacation. Carpio smiles and says fine, to give him his regards, and then leaves. Nestor shuts down the lights from the switchboxes and escapes out the back way. Venus grabs Rory by the hand and races off with her towards the back to help her escape. Upstairs Dominga and Jairo have a big laugh that with the lights out Rory won’t be as frightened when Graciano gets on top of her to do the deed. Just then the whole cantina explodes into flames. Boom! … Boom! … Boom! … Boom!
Option #2 having been successful, Carpio and Nestor drive away and report to Artie. Bravo doesn’t need the details. He orders Carpio to show up at his office the next day for further instructions then hangs up. Art sits down in his leather chair and takes a swig of his whiskey and soda. “Sleep tight tonight, Franco Santoro, because tomorrow I will know exactly what it is you’re hiding.” (Maybe, and then again, maybe not.)
Speaking of sleeping snug as a bug in a rug, the screen splits and we see both Fr/Eddie and Nanda slipping under their respective, color-coordinated, cream and gold covers and thinking of each other with smiles on their seemingly innocent faces. (Viewerville is finding it harder and harder to believe that a guy like Eddie is a 30 year old virgin. Gotta admit those mauve p.j.’s and that goofy grin of his are pretty convincing, though. What a downer! Ah well…..) Lights out! Sweet dreams.
Early the next morning, Cad comes riding on horseback up the rear drive of the main house at Las Animas. He’s looking for tire tracks from his papi’s car and hoping to trace the direction it took. Jacinto suddenly appears behind Cad and scares the be-Jaysoos out of him. “What the hell are you doing here!” Jacinto replies calmly that he works there now. “You should forgive my asking,” says Cinto, but just what are you looking for here at Las Animas?” “—I’m not used to giving answers to servants,” sneers Cad. He gets back onto his horse and rides off in a snit.
It’s breakfast time back at the Hacienda del los Elizalde. Fernanda is dressed and on her way out but Babs guilts her into sitting for a moment with her and Gonzo. Nanda asks how it went at the police station with the police report. “Paperwork like that is always trying and tiresome,” says Gonzo. Babs, like a dog with a bone, starts asking her again about the supposed dinner with Errika the night before. “How did it go at dinner last night?” Fer tries to squirm out of it and race off. “Oh! Where’s my head, I nearly forgot I have a date this morning!” Babs jumps up from the table and tries to get more out of her. “—So, where are you going in such a hurry, especially since we’re going from one frightful happenstance to another?” Gonzo agrees with Babs and asks Fer if she can’t do without going just now.
Fer, stumbling for a quick and credible answer, lies and says no, it’s not so important; but she did agree to meet Err at the clubhouse. She races out of the dining room before Babs can utter another word. Babs tells Gonzo she’s worried that Nanda seems depressed. Gonzo says it only makes sense considering what Damian did to her, and that now puts him in the mood to speak with Lozaya to see if there’s been any trace of the guy. He gets up to go.
After Gonzo leaves, Bitch-Barbie asks Tomasa if Aurora is up yet. Tomasa explains that Rory didn’t sleep there last night and why: “She went out for a walk and came back a while later asking to speak with Young Master, Santiago. I believed that she must have left, because she didn’t sleep in her bedroom last night.” B-B wonders where Santiago is then. Tomasa tells her that he locked himself in his bedroom last night and didn’t eat dinner, and, she adds, he still hasn’t asked for breakfast. BOW is miffed with the news and dismisses her with a signature insult. Tomasa clears the table and leaves. B-B says to herself that this must be Artemio Bravo’s doing.
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O Goody Goody! Thank you, Jardinera. Just got as far as Dominga's attempt to pimp out Aurora even in defiance of Ciggie. Damn. Either nerve or liquor. Can't believe she hadn't tried this before! Thanks Jardinera, can't wait to finish! (Hmmmm, how appropriate, the word verification is "hyped"! hee hee)
Khalilah
Khalilah
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: Saturday, May 30, 2009 at 4:41:00 PM EDT
: Saturday, May 30, 2009 at 4:41:00 PM EDT
Wow, I read this one while it is still hot off the press! Thank you Jardinera! It was a busy night and you had a lot of ground to cover.
If FrEd thinks his mom’s little box might have a letter from Fer, he’ll really be impactado if he ever discovers the shoeboxes full.
I’m confused over exactly why Camilo was cutting wires on Babs’ SUV. QT*?
BTW, this is the eighth episode that is still stuck on the same day in MEPS time. Fer's wedding was probably really last week.
:-o
If FrEd thinks his mom’s little box might have a letter from Fer, he’ll really be impactado if he ever discovers the shoeboxes full.
I’m confused over exactly why Camilo was cutting wires on Babs’ SUV. QT*?
BTW, this is the eighth episode that is still stuck on the same day in MEPS time. Fer's wedding was probably really last week.
:-o
Hey, guys! Sorry it took so long, but yeah, there was mucho ground to cover. Cad is cutting wires on the SUV to back up Babs's lie about her SUV being on the fritz as the reason she supposedly took Gonzo's car to the Association meeting when she really wen to the restaurant to spy on Franco Santoro. I guess she took a cab there and back, cuz I don't remember exactly how she followed him into town, unless Cad took her there first before going to Las Animas to snoop around.
Thanks for flippling this like hotcakes, Jardinera. I am having so much trouble with the whole Aurora the abused sequence but this was an action packed episode. Funny how Cad is most adept at illegal activities. He actually doesn't cut as fine a figure on horseback as either Franco or Jacinto do and he is supposed to be the big polo playboy. Reminds me I will have to look for youtube or news to see Prince Harry play polo in New York.
I am still sorry that Gardenia has turned into such a scuzzy traitor and she will probably be embittered even more when she finds out her bouncy curls and enlarging cleavage aren't gong to turn Eduardo's head. I hope she doesn't burn them in a hateful moment.
I am still sorry that Gardenia has turned into such a scuzzy traitor and she will probably be embittered even more when she finds out her bouncy curls and enlarging cleavage aren't gong to turn Eduardo's head. I hope she doesn't burn them in a hateful moment.
Jardinera, very nicely done.I'm still stunned by the explosion. That bastard Artemio has crossed the line. You don't jusrt go blowing up psrfectly good mud wrestlers willy nilly like that. The BASTARD! What about Dominga and the wonderful electric shirt. Excuse me a moment while I compose myself. Carlos
Permalink posted by : Saturday, May 30, 2009 at 5:48:00 PM EDT
: Saturday, May 30, 2009 at 5:48:00 PM EDT
Great recap, Jardinera, and I enjoy your witty alliteration as well.
Finally, a new day appears. Well, that certainly was the longest day on record for a telenovela... a whole week of epis for one day and only one or two apparel changes necessary. Guess they saved money there as someone suggested.
We don't know who survives the blast but I'm not on pins and needles to see if Abora makes it out alive though I would like Santi to know that she really does love him. She'll probably survive since she must discover that Babs in Mommy Dearest. GinCA
Finally, a new day appears. Well, that certainly was the longest day on record for a telenovela... a whole week of epis for one day and only one or two apparel changes necessary. Guess they saved money there as someone suggested.
We don't know who survives the blast but I'm not on pins and needles to see if Abora makes it out alive though I would like Santi to know that she really does love him. She'll probably survive since she must discover that Babs in Mommy Dearest. GinCA
Permalink posted by : Saturday, May 30, 2009 at 5:55:00 PM EDT
: Saturday, May 30, 2009 at 5:55:00 PM EDT
Jardinera, thanks for the great recap on such an action-packed night! I agree with CherlNewMex that the Aurora storyline is disturbing. As much as I dislike the Boob Bar, it bothers me that so many people may have been killed or injured for Aurora to make her escape.
The previews had a scene with Ed/Fr and Fernanda kissing. It would be a good set-up for Denia to catch them and go completely over to the dark side as a scorned women - in her mind. I'm looking forward to next week's unveilings.
Mariposa Tranquila
The previews had a scene with Ed/Fr and Fernanda kissing. It would be a good set-up for Denia to catch them and go completely over to the dark side as a scorned women - in her mind. I'm looking forward to next week's unveilings.
Mariposa Tranquila
Permalink posted by : Saturday, May 30, 2009 at 5:59:00 PM EDT
: Saturday, May 30, 2009 at 5:59:00 PM EDT
I loved when Cadmilho threw it right back at La Hiena when she told him to make up an excuse about the stolen car. I'm hoping she won't be able to push him around like she does her other stooges.
Are most novelas this good or is this one exceptional?
~Caborita
Are most novelas this good or is this one exceptional?
~Caborita
Permalink posted by : Saturday, May 30, 2009 at 6:10:00 PM EDT
: Saturday, May 30, 2009 at 6:10:00 PM EDT
Jardinera: Thanks for the great recap.
Cheryl: Agreed - Camilo looks terrible on a horse. He can't fake it.
Caborita: This novela so far is great.
I'm a little confused about the cutting of the wires in the SUV. Any, you'd think that with as much money the Elizaldes think they have, they'd each have their own vehicle.
Cheryl: Agreed - Camilo looks terrible on a horse. He can't fake it.
Caborita: This novela so far is great.
I'm a little confused about the cutting of the wires in the SUV. Any, you'd think that with as much money the Elizaldes think they have, they'd each have their own vehicle.
Jardinera, loved every word of the recap.
Ah, Dominga is now chicharron - I love it and sorry Carlos, but the girls in town need to find a new line of work. Venus has saved another one so she is not all bad, I hope she was spared.
rsk
Ah, Dominga is now chicharron - I love it and sorry Carlos, but the girls in town need to find a new line of work. Venus has saved another one so she is not all bad, I hope she was spared.
rsk
Permalink posted by : Saturday, May 30, 2009 at 6:48:00 PM EDT
: Saturday, May 30, 2009 at 6:48:00 PM EDT
Have finished recap. Wow. Thank you Jardinera for such a thorough and entertaining recap. I'm really up to speed now. Ciggie had the bar blown up to kill Jairo, didn't he? Cig doesn't know that Dominga was there with Aurora attempting to ho her out. That was a bad blast. This is probably the end of Dominganatrix and everybody in the BigCups Cafe except probably Venus, and I agree that Aurora has surely escaped.
Yeah, Ciggie is a all caps bastard, indeed. Silverfox, your comment from yesterday that Ciggie is not in it for the money is noted. Guess he's just an imp of Satan. Damn.
Khalilah
Yeah, Ciggie is a all caps bastard, indeed. Silverfox, your comment from yesterday that Ciggie is not in it for the money is noted. Guess he's just an imp of Satan. Damn.
Khalilah
Permalink posted by : Saturday, May 30, 2009 at 6:52:00 PM EDT
: Saturday, May 30, 2009 at 6:52:00 PM EDT
Well, I,m fairly certain that Aurora and likely Venus escaped the blast. But what about Dominga and Jairo? What abour the whore with the wild bug eyes? It's always a tragedy when a community loses a local landmark like that. Does Mexico have a FEMA? As despicable as he was, Jairo had a certain sense of style, and Dominga is irreplaceable. I shall have to toast them with a sip of the cheapest libation I can find. I shall miss them. Carlos
Jardinera...what a wicked way you have with words, amiga..."porcine lush"!!!!! I almost felt sorry for Dominga after that. Oh...not really. Just loved the way you wielded that description like a weapon.
Actually, though, I'm kind of hoping Dominga survives. I thought her drunken scene with Jairo was hilarious (the actors looked like they were having fun) and I was resolutely detaching myself because I know I am waaaay too involved in Aurora's learned helplessness (good analysis the other day from an anonymous blogger).
Anyway, action-packed. Covered well. Will miss next week but look forward to catching up when I drag myself back from Charlotte.
Actually, though, I'm kind of hoping Dominga survives. I thought her drunken scene with Jairo was hilarious (the actors looked like they were having fun) and I was resolutely detaching myself because I know I am waaaay too involved in Aurora's learned helplessness (good analysis the other day from an anonymous blogger).
Anyway, action-packed. Covered well. Will miss next week but look forward to catching up when I drag myself back from Charlotte.
rsk, Dominga is now chincharon? Wow, almost as searing as Jardinera's porcine lush. I'll always remember her contageous perky smile. Carlos
I didn't understand the wires thing, either the first time. I went back in to the recap now and tried to fix the confusion about the SUV wires. Hope that works. Otherwise, in comment #3 I gave a totally discombobulated explanation. My apologies again. : ? }
Cad is cutting the wires on Babs's SUV so when they go check on the SUV it won't run. Babs lied when she told Gonzo it wouldn't start and that that was why she supposedly took Gonzo's Beamer to town instead because that is where she says it got stolen.
Cad is cutting the wires on Babs's SUV so when they go check on the SUV it won't run. Babs lied when she told Gonzo it wouldn't start and that that was why she supposedly took Gonzo's Beamer to town instead because that is where she says it got stolen.
Probably Babs drove herself, her car wasn't disabled until after the (stolen car). Why would they have to disable her car, Gonzo is going to check?
I do admire one thing about Camilo, he broke into the house he had the car when it was stolen, & yet he laughs & tells Babs it's her problem. Well after all she did say she would take the blame.
I get the feeling that Camilo needs a room next to Lili. He cackles like an insane person, don't think he would do well in la cárcel.
Hope it's good riddance to Dominga & Jairo.
I do admire one thing about Camilo, he broke into the house he had the car when it was stolen, & yet he laughs & tells Babs it's her problem. Well after all she did say she would take the blame.
I get the feeling that Camilo needs a room next to Lili. He cackles like an insane person, don't think he would do well in la cárcel.
Hope it's good riddance to Dominga & Jairo.
Khalilah: "Just got as far as Dominga's attempt to pimp out Aurora even in defiance of Ciggie. Damn. Either nerve or liquor. Can't believe she hadn't tried this before!"
Actually, she had - that's what prompted Aurora to run away from her in the first place, the day she met Santiago. That's why it's so amazing that Aurora went back to Dominga.
Actually, she had - that's what prompted Aurora to run away from her in the first place, the day she met Santiago. That's why it's so amazing that Aurora went back to Dominga.
Fr/Ed will do anything to see fern....now this thing with the car gives him another reason to see her.....I hope he asks gardenia if she saw the box of letters... i would think he might....after all his were there and Fer told him she did write Ed....lets see Gardenia squirm out of it then...Ed/Fr needs to start putting 2 and 2 together.... maybe once he knows who A Bravo is he may start to get the idea whos who in whoville..... i bet Dominga is burned....but saved and jairo.... well he needs to burn in hell....men who use women like that deserve all that and more.......pigs they are...this novela is moving right along... love it....BN in CA
Permalink posted by : Saturday, May 30, 2009 at 8:26:00 PM EDT
: Saturday, May 30, 2009 at 8:26:00 PM EDT
BN in CA says sorry for the double comments and thanx for the recap Jardienra....
Permalink posted by : Saturday, May 30, 2009 at 8:29:00 PM EDT
: Saturday, May 30, 2009 at 8:29:00 PM EDT
Rsk: chicharron? Pork curls anyone? Don't think I'll ever look at a bag the same way again! Ack! Ack! Ack! Ack! Ack!
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JudyB/Carlos: ...and I just thought I was being kinder and gentler by employing a euphemistic hifalutin.... Wait. What did I just say??? I've been at this screen a bit too long.
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Pasofino/Cheryl: The horse looked great in that scene, though, doncha think? Ha! I was searching for a log or a rock nearby for him to move to in that scene as he struggled to get his foot into that stirrup --or worse, I kept worrying that the horse would keep moving back away. Cad's a big guy, but that horse is apparently even bigger. That was really embarrassingly painful to watch. Oof! --but then, maybe it was meant to be cuz the guy is such a jerkwad.
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GinCa/Mariposa T: I too am finding it harder and harder to be charitable with ABora. She is trying my patience with her indecision and her dumb choices every bit as much as Sophia. Wanna bet she makes it through and has a bout of amnesia while Mommie Dearest and Santi go sifting through the ashes?
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Caborita: IMHO, this is definitely one of the better telenovelas. Although, I am personally partial to Amarte Es Mi Pecado, La Manantial and Amor Real. Pasion ranks pretty high along with Alborada, and La Otra, but the others are my all time top 3.
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JudyB/Carlos: ...and I just thought I was being kinder and gentler by employing a euphemistic hifalutin.... Wait. What did I just say??? I've been at this screen a bit too long.
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Pasofino/Cheryl: The horse looked great in that scene, though, doncha think? Ha! I was searching for a log or a rock nearby for him to move to in that scene as he struggled to get his foot into that stirrup --or worse, I kept worrying that the horse would keep moving back away. Cad's a big guy, but that horse is apparently even bigger. That was really embarrassingly painful to watch. Oof! --but then, maybe it was meant to be cuz the guy is such a jerkwad.
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GinCa/Mariposa T: I too am finding it harder and harder to be charitable with ABora. She is trying my patience with her indecision and her dumb choices every bit as much as Sophia. Wanna bet she makes it through and has a bout of amnesia while Mommie Dearest and Santi go sifting through the ashes?
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Caborita: IMHO, this is definitely one of the better telenovelas. Although, I am personally partial to Amarte Es Mi Pecado, La Manantial and Amor Real. Pasion ranks pretty high along with Alborada, and La Otra, but the others are my all time top 3.
Jardinera, I'm really enjoying this TN. I missed last night's episode (had to watch the condensed version on youtube) but your recap filled in all the gaps. Thanks.
~Caborita
~Caborita
Permalink posted by : Saturday, May 30, 2009 at 8:45:00 PM EDT
: Saturday, May 30, 2009 at 8:45:00 PM EDT
Variopinta: You make a good point. Gonzo and "go check" just never seem to belong in the same sentence together, do they?
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Khalilah: Cigarman is going to have a frickin' fit when he hears that Aurora was in that building explosion courtesy of Dumbinga. Seeing the guy getting freaked over it seems like terrific pay back.
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Julie: I'm convinced Rory went to school on the short bus.
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Khalilah: Cigarman is going to have a frickin' fit when he hears that Aurora was in that building explosion courtesy of Dumbinga. Seeing the guy getting freaked over it seems like terrific pay back.
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Julie: I'm convinced Rory went to school on the short bus.
One thing I love about this telenovela is that most of the little mysteries get solved relatively quickly. For example, we only had to wait a few weeks to find out who Isaac Newton was.
Some telenovelas will save ALL the answers for the final week, but I figure the biggest questions (what's the deal with Artemio, what's the deal with Barb) are plenty enough to wait for... it's more fun to watch them actually figure things out along the way instead of getting more and more confused for months on end.
I'm dying to find out what Ed's plan for the car is.
Some telenovelas will save ALL the answers for the final week, but I figure the biggest questions (what's the deal with Artemio, what's the deal with Barb) are plenty enough to wait for... it's more fun to watch them actually figure things out along the way instead of getting more and more confused for months on end.
I'm dying to find out what Ed's plan for the car is.
By the way, Jardinera: "Gonzo’s unfortunate Sunkist progeny" - LOL!! It was so funny when Fr/Ed knew who Steve was talking about based on the "suntan"!
BN in CA: Ed and Dewey need to do a thorough search of the house themselves so they can find that gym bag --we should be so lucky. If they do something that sensible it probably won't be till near the end.
It would be nice if they found hte letters, but I can't imagine that Ed would invade Gardenia's privacy like that. He doesn't know yet that she's a sneak!
Julie: about Eddie's plan for the car -- me three. The writers have been pretty good about unravelling just enough of the mysteries and creating just enough new ones to keep us coming back for more. I liked that about Alborada and Pasion, too. What is really great about this telenovela is that the things these writers dream up are never cookie-cutter crap. They are generally two steps ahead of the rest of us and I love never knowing what little maze the writers will send us down in the next episodio.
Julie, I agree with you that some of the mysteries get resolved fairly quickly which satisfies my need for instant gratification. On the other hand, some of the questions we have are not being revealed so quickly, adding to the drama and suspense.
~Caborita
~Caborita
Permalink posted by : Saturday, May 30, 2009 at 9:06:00 PM EDT
: Saturday, May 30, 2009 at 9:06:00 PM EDT
Thanks for the excellent recap. I have been on vacation and wondered if there have been any hints as to why Artemio Bravo has so much power, why Barbara is so indebted to him and what the big secret is? Thanks, Sylvia from Georgia
Permalink posted by : Saturday, May 30, 2009 at 9:08:00 PM EDT
: Saturday, May 30, 2009 at 9:08:00 PM EDT
Maybe Esteve & FrEd will try to sell Gonzo's car on eBay.
Jardinera - thanks for explaining why Camilo cut the wires on Babs' SUV. Duh. I should have figured that out. My beanie hat is too tight.
Jardinera - thanks for explaining why Camilo cut the wires on Babs' SUV. Duh. I should have figured that out. My beanie hat is too tight.
They found Isaac Newton by looking in the phone book, might be a good idea to check it for Artemio Bravo.
If Dominga isn't dead in the explosion, Artemio will probably make her wish she was. He told her to get out of there with Aurora "right now", knowing what was about to happen.
If Dominga isn't dead in the explosion, Artemio will probably make her wish she was. He told her to get out of there with Aurora "right now", knowing what was about to happen.
If Venus survives the blast, which she probably will, she will be unemployed. Perhaps she will make a career move and become a nurse at the manicomio. It's been done before. She has a heart of gold, is resourceful, can wrassle a patient and would also look fetching in one of those short white uniforms with the white platform shoes. And this would make the guys watching this novela happy because Denia has fallen off her pedestal a little bit, though probably not too much. Just teasing again guys. GinCA
Permalink posted by : Saturday, May 30, 2009 at 11:47:00 PM EDT
: Saturday, May 30, 2009 at 11:47:00 PM EDT
Gin, wow,I like how you think. With both she and Martina there, the placecould cut back onantidepressants for the male pts. at least, but my poor colleague Dr. O will have to invest in more books. Carlos
Oh my! And I was saying "What are the chances Dominga and Jairo actually get blown up in the next 15 minutes?" If I'd thought the writers would make good on the threat that soon, I would have had the 'smores fixings ready :)
Awww, the poor wrestler girls and scantily clad dancers and hos. That's a loss there. The skanky men who frequent the bar? Not so much.
Awww, the poor wrestler girls and scantily clad dancers and hos. That's a loss there. The skanky men who frequent the bar? Not so much.
Jardinera, Gracias for the excellent recap yet again.
Question: Did I miss something or am I imagining something at the end of the episode, didn't Tomasa show Barbara la vibora the morning newspaper which had the story of the bombing on the front page? Guess we'll have to wait until Monday to find out of Abora the non-assertive escaped or got French fried with the riff raff.
Love Ed's cute little jammies which make him look about ten. A far cry from the closing scene of all the episodes lately where he comes into Nanda's candlelit bedroom wearing only his white cotton pants.
Dona Gringuita
Question: Did I miss something or am I imagining something at the end of the episode, didn't Tomasa show Barbara la vibora the morning newspaper which had the story of the bombing on the front page? Guess we'll have to wait until Monday to find out of Abora the non-assertive escaped or got French fried with the riff raff.
Love Ed's cute little jammies which make him look about ten. A far cry from the closing scene of all the episodes lately where he comes into Nanda's candlelit bedroom wearing only his white cotton pants.
Dona Gringuita
Permalink posted by : Sunday, May 31, 2009 at 8:52:00 AM EDT
: Sunday, May 31, 2009 at 8:52:00 AM EDT
Jardinera thank you for the wonderful reacap. Poor Aurora, even if she escapes, her lie to Santiago will be for nothing, she annoys me so much sometimes but I was hoping that her stupid decision would led her to a lead of the identity of her mother, but no, it didn't, poor over emotional Santiago.
I can't understand what drives Camilo to help his stepmother, I would think that given the way his chacacter has been written that he just would not care about anything that doesn't have to do with him, and yet there he is cutting wires from cars, following people, etc.
Jarocha.
I can't understand what drives Camilo to help his stepmother, I would think that given the way his chacacter has been written that he just would not care about anything that doesn't have to do with him, and yet there he is cutting wires from cars, following people, etc.
Jarocha.
Permalink posted by : Sunday, May 31, 2009 at 10:27:00 AM EDT
: Sunday, May 31, 2009 at 10:27:00 AM EDT
Jarocha: ¡Hola! I had the same thoughts about Camilo. I can only think he's onery just because it suits him to be. It's his nature --and Monserrat certainly nurtured it while she was alive.
Ah, Kat! I didn't notice your comment till I started rolling up the post a comment side.
I'd say if I'd have known the BBQ was coming so quick, I'd have brought the weenies to the roast, but then I realized they were all inside Jairo's place.
I'd say if I'd have known the BBQ was coming so quick, I'd have brought the weenies to the roast, but then I realized they were all inside Jairo's place.
Jarocha, I believe that as you indicated, that Camilla is only driven by his own self-interest. He was already fascinated by Franco Santoro. Now Babs is lending her support and backing to pursue this interest further without as much personal risk as before. As yet of course he doesn't realize that he was caught red -handed. If he had not beaten Erika unmercifully, I think we might all enjoy, or at least tolerate him as jolly louse. We could say, "well it's not like Erika wasn't aware of hs character." The brutal attack was utterly unforgivable as well as his n pardonable treatment of Jacy. He is a violent sociopath. I hope that both Erika and Jacy get opportunities to humiliate him. Carlos
I did notice a little spunk from Jacinto when Camilo rode over on his horse, ¿Qué hace?. But in typical Camilo behavior, he said he didn't answer to servants, a true gilipolla. Hopefully Erika can watch Jacinto beat la mierda out of him.
Jardinera and Carlos: What you said makes sense, he could be fascinated by Franco and following his instinct by doing all those deeds for himself with Babs's help, in that sense he seems like a child, with no limits or conscience that might him define what is right and wrong.
I agree that beating Erika made him unforgivable, if the writes would had avoided all his misogynist behaviour he could be a very interesting character.
Jarocha.
I agree that beating Erika made him unforgivable, if the writes would had avoided all his misogynist behaviour he could be a very interesting character.
Jarocha.
Permalink posted by : Sunday, May 31, 2009 at 11:57:00 AM EDT
: Sunday, May 31, 2009 at 11:57:00 AM EDT
Camilo is such an egotist that he can't understand how Erika or any woman could be interested in someone other than himself. He must have some attributes that we don't see, Natasha caved in to him.
My money is on Jairo and Dominga surviving with some mere smoke damage to make their gruff voices even gruffer, and their devious meanness to mature longer. They were upstairs in the hotel room while the bomb was in some side room just off the bar, right? So it seems like it won't be a total loss of the building. It seems likely too that Aurora will survive for plot continuity. And Carlos, let's hope that the layer of mud is thick enough to protect the wrestlers' lovely skin from singeing.
If Jairo and Domingo are goners, then their deaths were too kind; they wouldn't have known what hit them. Both need to suffer a little (or a lot) before they roast in the afterlife.
Permalink posted by : Sunday, May 31, 2009 at 12:18:00 PM EDT
: Sunday, May 31, 2009 at 12:18:00 PM EDT
Cheryl, I sure hope you are right about Dominga and Jairo as well as the lovely mud princesses. I look forward to the occasional visit to Copatonas. Looks like a lot of the citizens of the community do as well. Artemio has certainly demonstrated his ruthlessness, and isn't Carpio cold-blooded? Carlos
Thanks Jardinera for a great recap of an action filled episode. As usual, you covered all bases so well. It's amazing how you tell it like it is and the snark is always so appropriate. The only thing you left out, Carlos filled in for you "It's always a tragedy when a community loses a local landmark". Carlos you crack me up. I love you take on things. "Jairo had a certain sense of style" yeah, right! "Dominga is irreplaceable". You're right about that too. When God made her, he threw away the mold.
Permalink posted by : Sunday, May 31, 2009 at 1:33:00 PM EDT
: Sunday, May 31, 2009 at 1:33:00 PM EDT
Well, if Dominga doesn't make it through the BBQ, I guess you could say God was listening and decided he'd heard enough.
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Alice: Thanks, amiga, but this group is so far ahead of me that if the writers ever checked in they'd be scared of getting pink slips. ; ? )
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Alice: Thanks, amiga, but this group is so far ahead of me that if the writers ever checked in they'd be scared of getting pink slips. ; ? )
I have been watching some old telenovela clips on youtube all day and found "Cuando Seas Mia", TV Azteca's version of "Café con aroma de mujer" in 2001, starred by Silvia Navarro. I thought I might share a scene with her for those who have only seen her in MEPS:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hi55xSnIUGs.
And if you like to compare here is the same scene in "Destilando Amor" :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2dG-Z3xA14
(the scene in CSM is longer, the same moment starts at the minute 4 in the DA clip).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hi55xSnIUGs.
And if you like to compare here is the same scene in "Destilando Amor" :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T2dG-Z3xA14
(the scene in CSM is longer, the same moment starts at the minute 4 in the DA clip).
Permalink posted by : Sunday, May 31, 2009 at 2:30:00 PM EDT
: Sunday, May 31, 2009 at 2:30:00 PM EDT
And forgot to sign, but that was me, Jarocha, with the clips.
Permalink posted by : Sunday, May 31, 2009 at 2:31:00 PM EDT
: Sunday, May 31, 2009 at 2:31:00 PM EDT
Thanks Jarocha for the video clips and Jardinera for your unique take on the recaps.
Chicharrones, indeed!
ITA with all who think that Jairo and Dominga will survive - it is just too easy to write them off right now.
I was glad to see Jacinto is back at Las Animas but did I miss how he got his job back? Was there an explanation that was given by him or by Fr/Ed?
MEPS in AZ
Chicharrones, indeed!
ITA with all who think that Jairo and Dominga will survive - it is just too easy to write them off right now.
I was glad to see Jacinto is back at Las Animas but did I miss how he got his job back? Was there an explanation that was given by him or by Fr/Ed?
MEPS in AZ
Permalink posted by : Sunday, May 31, 2009 at 2:51:00 PM EDT
: Sunday, May 31, 2009 at 2:51:00 PM EDT
MEPS in AZ: If I remember it correctly, I think that during some conversation between Fr/Ed and Fer she apologized for her brother, Cad, forcing Jacinto to let him inside Fr/Ed's house because he was an employee and essentially subservient to an Elizalde's every whim and wish. She told Fr/Ed it wasn't fair for Jacinto to lose his job on her brother's account. That gave him a way to hire back Jacinto full time as his own employee and horse-trainer. Does anybody else remember something else?
Jarocha: Thanks for the clips. Watching that clip from Desti brought it all back again and I guess I'm going to have to put DA in tier 1 of my alltime favorites, too. ¡Ay! After seeing Eduardo Yañez emote in that scene again, I am remembering why FELS was such a rotten novela and such a waste of the guy's real talent. ¡Fuchi!
Jardinera: You are welcome, FELS was horrible, I tried to watched for Jorge and Nora Salinas, I like both actors very much but that novela was a dreck. I'm curious now, what's your other favorite novela?
Permalink posted by : Sunday, May 31, 2009 at 3:42:00 PM EDT
: Sunday, May 31, 2009 at 3:42:00 PM EDT
Again, forgot to sign, sigh, I'll have to try again to get a google account.
Jarocha.
Jarocha.
Permalink posted by : Sunday, May 31, 2009 at 3:44:00 PM EDT
: Sunday, May 31, 2009 at 3:44:00 PM EDT
Jarocha: I mentioned somewhere up above that Amarte Es Mi Pecado, El Manantial, and Amor Real were the others with La Otra, Alborada and Pasion right after. Of course, I've only been watching these things the last 5 yrs. or so and I know there are some real aficionados that have been watching for a decade or more.
Oh you are right, I forgot, well those are good choices, I especially liked La Otra, Sergio Sendel and Yadhira Carrillo have scorching chemistry in both LO and AEMP, but watching them both together as baddies in LO was great. It was in fact their chemistry in La Otra that made the producers cast them in Amarte Es Mi Pecado and Televisa doesn't usually use a couple twice (TV Azteca does it alot though).
Scorching is right! I'd love to see them together again as the lead romantic interests. She is probably my favorite actress and Angela Rivera is my second favorite. I can't get Telemundo so I do miss Mauricio Islas. Don't get Azteca either, but I have my ways!
I miss Mauricio Islas too, I haven't seen him in a novela in years, I'm glad you have your ways Jardinera, I hope you get to see some great older novelas and some from TV Azteca that were great, I don't like most of the stuff coming out now in either Azteca oor Televisa.
I'm curious, which was your first novela?
I'm curious, which was your first novela?
Thanks to anonymous for the great clips. Soooo interesting! I didn't know that Azteca had another version of Cafe/DA. Lots of recycling of the good ones going on.
Most of the novelas coming out in the last ten to fifteen years are remakes, for example: MEPS is a remake of Pura Sangre, FELS was a remake of Pasión De Gavilanes, wich was a remake of Las Aguas Mansas (wich was actually good), even Amor Real was a remake of Bodas De Odio, they do recycle stories alot.
Jarocha
Jarocha
Permalink posted by : Sunday, May 31, 2009 at 6:17:00 PM EDT
: Sunday, May 31, 2009 at 6:17:00 PM EDT
May I join in this discussion? We old folks enjoy talking about the good old days. I especially lke discussing my favorite TNs. My favorite 3 are Ramona (my first), Alborada, and Juan Querendon. Ramona was not only my favorite but a consensus classic. It starred my 2 favorite protagonists, Kate del Castillo and Eduardo (wow, can't remember his last name). Sergio Sendel saddled up and took care of evil almost single handed; all bad wen through him. Alborada was simply breath-taking. It had good writing, good casting, good directing, good acting, good action, good suspense, good hating, good lovin', good good, and good bad. It gave us Caray Caray. Juan Querndon was great comedy, broad, subtle, droll, and slapstick. Juan was lovable , huggable, and exasperating. Paula was, well...exasperating. Caesar and Gaitan were perfect in their roles and Ivonne was DDG . All the others were great. Gaitan introdced us to the Pancho Villa, a shot of Tequila with a flower. My favorite villainess was Cynthia Klitbo in Velo de Novia. I still shiver when I remember her crouching beneath a tea table furiously, furtively, fumando on a cigarette while she decomposed before our eyes. My favorite villain was an old mob boss who loved good wine , good whisky, good Tequila, classical music, Mexican trios, good food, all things Mexican, and above all, beautiful, intelligent, cultured women. Oh yes, and his little parrot. He was also a ruthless killer. The writers couldn't bring themselves to kill him off or even separate him from his bird. I can't even remember the name of the show, but he was vivid. Thanks for letting me share. Carlos
Carlos, your choices are also very good, Eduardo Palomo was the lead actor in Ramona, he was a great actor, he also played Juan Del Diablo in the last remake of Corazón Salvaje.
Jarocha
Jarocha
Permalink posted by : Sunday, May 31, 2009 at 7:24:00 PM EDT
: Sunday, May 31, 2009 at 7:24:00 PM EDT
Sorry, el Perico was the old mob boss, sorry, I don't remember the actor's name...I mentioned that I'm old. Carlos
Permalink posted by : Sunday, May 31, 2009 at 7:27:00 PM EDT
: Sunday, May 31, 2009 at 7:27:00 PM EDT
I enjoyed FELS; I just saw it as good campy fun, not to really be taken seriously.
I swore I wouldn't get sucked into another telenovela but here I am watching MEPS. I have so many questions like...
Why is Camilo burnt looking?
Why is Gonzalo stupid?
Why did dumb Aurora go back to Dominga?
Is Anibal the most boring Elizalde sibling ever?
Who is younger? Fernanda or Santiago?
Was Eddie the only boy in the region for all these girls to be carrying this torch for him for almost 2 decades?
Why does Carpio look like Lamont Sanford?
LOL
I swore I wouldn't get sucked into another telenovela but here I am watching MEPS. I have so many questions like...
Why is Camilo burnt looking?
Why is Gonzalo stupid?
Why did dumb Aurora go back to Dominga?
Is Anibal the most boring Elizalde sibling ever?
Who is younger? Fernanda or Santiago?
Was Eddie the only boy in the region for all these girls to be carrying this torch for him for almost 2 decades?
Why does Carpio look like Lamont Sanford?
LOL
Permalink posted by : Sunday, May 31, 2009 at 7:27:00 PM EDT
: Sunday, May 31, 2009 at 7:27:00 PM EDT
Jarocha and anon, Eduardo Palomo. He may not have been as pretty as our Eddie, but he was quite an actor and the only galan I've ever seen bumped off. Imagine me as a novice to TNs expecting a daring escape from the calaboose by our galan, only to be treated to the vision of his little mocassined feet dropping through a trap door and then futilly kicking like the rear patas of a little raton potruding from a snake's mouth. Carlos
Carlos: I'm feeling great right now. Just passed the last cert exam for a new product to pester the healing class with and am celebrating with a Cuba Libre because I certainly do feel liberated..... I have put off the highly regarded Ramona to this point only because it was pre-CC and recaps are limited. However, I got through El Manantial pretty well that way and that was 3 years ago, so maybe I might venture into the rapids with Kate and crew. Kate dC is a definite top notch leading lady.
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Jarocha: My first venture into the world of the telenovela was Amar Otra Vez. Valentino Lanús was the galán and he was mesmorizing. Irán Castillo not so much, but they were good together on screen. Yadhi and Sergio in Amarte were my next big thrill. It was the first time I saw Sergio play a good guy, and a hunkalicious one. I didn't realize what great comedic timing he had till I saw him in Heridas or maybe it was Destilando. I'd never seen him as a villano let alone a villano I could love, hate and laugh at/with all at the same time. (He's laughing with us I'm certain). He carries it off in spades.
El Manantial...wonderful and every episodio was a unique experience. I never guessed what was coming next. Alejandro Tomassi was superb as the villano and I'd never seen him in a leading role before. Bajo la Misma Piel (my third try at noveladom) was a total waste of his talents. On the other hand, Alborada made good use of them as FC's sidekick. Bajo la Misma Piel did introduce me to Juan Soler and Kate del Castillo as well as Susana Zabaleta (reckless, ravenous Root in FELS) and Diana Bracho as Kate's loving and victimized madre. What a change to see DB as the evil Tía Berta in Heridas. These actors are all fabulously talented, especially considering the quality of the scripts they have to work with. However, the icing on the cake is always the different slice of Mexican life and culture that each and every novela brings to a gringa like myself. : ? )
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Jarocha: My first venture into the world of the telenovela was Amar Otra Vez. Valentino Lanús was the galán and he was mesmorizing. Irán Castillo not so much, but they were good together on screen. Yadhi and Sergio in Amarte were my next big thrill. It was the first time I saw Sergio play a good guy, and a hunkalicious one. I didn't realize what great comedic timing he had till I saw him in Heridas or maybe it was Destilando. I'd never seen him as a villano let alone a villano I could love, hate and laugh at/with all at the same time. (He's laughing with us I'm certain). He carries it off in spades.
El Manantial...wonderful and every episodio was a unique experience. I never guessed what was coming next. Alejandro Tomassi was superb as the villano and I'd never seen him in a leading role before. Bajo la Misma Piel (my third try at noveladom) was a total waste of his talents. On the other hand, Alborada made good use of them as FC's sidekick. Bajo la Misma Piel did introduce me to Juan Soler and Kate del Castillo as well as Susana Zabaleta (reckless, ravenous Root in FELS) and Diana Bracho as Kate's loving and victimized madre. What a change to see DB as the evil Tía Berta in Heridas. These actors are all fabulously talented, especially considering the quality of the scripts they have to work with. However, the icing on the cake is always the different slice of Mexican life and culture that each and every novela brings to a gringa like myself. : ? )
Thanks, Jardinera~~~Well, as the weekend draws to a close, I've enjoyed reading the recap and all the intreresting comments. I will add my list of favorite novelas. My first novela was Alborada , and it's still tied for #1 with Amor Real. I also loved Pasion. If I could only watch one TN for the rest of my days, I'd have to pick Alborada , but I would really miss Amor Real which was filled with love scenes and bathtub scenes ..genius. You may notice a theme...Myfavs are all historical dramas starring FC. I like Eduardo Yanez, but the tns I've seen him in were a little wacky. I liked Destilando Amor , but FELS was too long and too lame. I am waiting for Carla Estrada's new novela, but I'm not fond of the leads [Jackie B. and William Levy]. However, I am looking for to seeing my telenovio Marcelo Cordoba. I am also anxious for a new historical novela. I love the costumes, architecture, manners, etc. As for the novela at hand [MEPS] , seeing FC in the jammies is just depressing. The opening shots of Ed and Fern in the white satin setting reminds me so much of a very similar scene with Lucero and FC in the opening credits of Alborada. Those opening scenes never actually happen in the novela.
Permalink posted by : Sunday, May 31, 2009 at 8:15:00 PM EDT
: Sunday, May 31, 2009 at 8:15:00 PM EDT
My first (and only) TN was "El Magnate". I don't remember much about it cuz it was like 20 years ago. I would call my mother every night and we'd both watch it while on the phone.
Too bad I waited 20 years to watch another TN. I'm hooked.
~Caborita
Too bad I waited 20 years to watch another TN. I'm hooked.
~Caborita
Permalink posted by : Sunday, May 31, 2009 at 8:17:00 PM EDT
: Sunday, May 31, 2009 at 8:17:00 PM EDT
Anonymous, I think Carpio looks like Lamont Sanford, too. I wondered why his face kept bothering me. Now I know. Thanks. ;-D
Great recap Jardinera as always. I haven't seen the show or read all the comments yet but I sure hope Aurora doesn't end up with amnesia. Although for her it might be a good thing. But for us not so much--we'll have to sit through more boring..uh I mean very stimulating scenes with Aurora. Poor Flor. I hate it when they pick on the poor receptionist/secretary. It's just not fair.
I'm trying to type this on my new laptop and I keep reaching for my cell phone thinking it is the mouse! Ha! :-}
I'm trying to type this on my new laptop and I keep reaching for my cell phone thinking it is the mouse! Ha! :-}
Carlos, Eduardo was very good looking, maybe for many not as much as Colunga, but I think his talent elevates his atractiveness, I also loved his voice, when Disney made the animated Tarzan, he gave his voice to the chacater for the latinamerican audiences(Lucero was Jane) and well, let's just say that it was the first time that I thought a cartoon was sexy.
Jarocha
Jarocha
Permalink posted by : Sunday, May 31, 2009 at 9:19:00 PM EDT
: Sunday, May 31, 2009 at 9:19:00 PM EDT
MEPS is actually my first telenovela I have seen from the beginning. The telenovela Salome is the one that got me started. The stars are Edith Gonzalez (who I liked a lot) and Guy Ecker. The two had good chemistry. It was shown late at night and I would watch bits and pieces on some nights before falling asleep. This was around the time I was getting more serious about learning Spanish. Then I got the Alborada DVD as a gift, fell for FC and here I am!
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Just saw to the side of where messages are posted-
Carlos, that is a very good and nicely composed picture of your doggie and I'll assume that is your serial killer cat to whom you supply drugs (catnip). What are they both watching?
And Doris, your little baby is adorable and I'll bet is a sweetie! Barbara
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Just saw to the side of where messages are posted-
Carlos, that is a very good and nicely composed picture of your doggie and I'll assume that is your serial killer cat to whom you supply drugs (catnip). What are they both watching?
And Doris, your little baby is adorable and I'll bet is a sweetie! Barbara
Permalink posted by : Sunday, May 31, 2009 at 9:46:00 PM EDT
: Sunday, May 31, 2009 at 9:46:00 PM EDT
Jardinera, congratulations. I always enjoy new stuff but I always stand back and watch someone else try it first. I think it was Zomig that was to be the ultimate answer to arthritis. I saved the pens. Seriously, good luck. Just remember that Drs. are suckers for donuts (well this one). Enjoy your Cuba Libre, you've earned it. Carlos
Barbara, thanks. They truly make a strange but loving pair. Who knows what lurks in the wilderness of the backyard. Their affection for eacg other never ceases to amaze me. Carlos
Anon, yes, yes, yes! Carpio does look like Lamont Sanford. I was having the worst time placing him. Thank you.
I love the weekend discussions that get started here. We plumb the depths of the episode and then go off onto bunny trails in the extra days. Fun!
I love the weekend discussions that get started here. We plumb the depths of the episode and then go off onto bunny trails in the extra days. Fun!
Carlos, I have been enjoying this latest picture on your sign in too of catdog togetherness. It is so sweet. They are lit in blue like my picture is but neither one of them is wearing a pink sequined hat. I get get Willa to put this on either.
About that Horse, Jardinera, yes too beautiful for Cam. I was half expecting Cam to try to order Jacinto to give him a foothold up, but I think even he isn't dumb enough to think Cinto would help him. Too fun to see Cam confounded, almost a confrontation for the shy but noble Jacinto.
Thanks for the great recap Jardinera. We've been away, so I've been catching up. I like to watch the episodes, but if I miss them, I can always catch up completely by reading the recaps. Reading them is just as good as watching.
So much happening this week, Denia the Dark, say it ain't so. Still time for her to give the letters back... But... Maybe the Bravo Baddies will do her in before she can give them back?
I'd like to know what the plan is for the car as well. Somewhat interesting that Fernanda is believing all the things that Ed is telling her about her family. Of course, he is speaking the truth. And... She has a pretty good idea about what her sibs are like. :)
Jarocha, one thing that continues to surprise me about Cadmilho is how active he is. At the beginning, I pictured him as lazy and do nothing. But, he seems to get up early in the mornings, gets out and spies on people, much more active than I thought he would be. :)
JeffMN
So much happening this week, Denia the Dark, say it ain't so. Still time for her to give the letters back... But... Maybe the Bravo Baddies will do her in before she can give them back?
I'd like to know what the plan is for the car as well. Somewhat interesting that Fernanda is believing all the things that Ed is telling her about her family. Of course, he is speaking the truth. And... She has a pretty good idea about what her sibs are like. :)
Jarocha, one thing that continues to surprise me about Cadmilho is how active he is. At the beginning, I pictured him as lazy and do nothing. But, he seems to get up early in the mornings, gets out and spies on people, much more active than I thought he would be. :)
JeffMN
Permalink posted by : Sunday, May 31, 2009 at 10:44:00 PM EDT
: Sunday, May 31, 2009 at 10:44:00 PM EDT
Jardinera, I'm sorry, I think the magic arthritis cure was Zomax. I believe Zomig is for migraine headaches. Does ie seem like an inordinate number of meds start with Z or X? Cheryl, Jack doesn't do clothes. Bonney Belle just doesn't look good in pink. Willa looks great in just about anything. I wish you guys could see BB and her doggy pals play.Pitbulls play rough but they really do have fun. Jack just watches. Carlos
I was looking for a CD & what did I find but Amor Real. I didn't even remember I had it. So spent the evening watching & drooling over Manuel. Adelia Noriega is very good in it. I didn't think I would be able to say that after FELS.
I see Abora did not be any smarter while I was gone. She was upset about having to lie, but she's starting to get pretty good at it. Coming up with new stories all the time.
I do think Dominga and Jairo make a great couple. Too bad they couldn't have met earlier and had a few little ones. :)
I do hope to see Alborada and Amor Real some day. Maybe they'll show up as Grande Historias or something at noon so I can see them. We started watching TNs late January of LFMBs run, so probably around episode 200? We've watched a lot of them since then. Ones we haven't really watched, we have some idea of what is going on. We'll probably watch the start of most (?all) of them now just to see what they are like and whether we want to continue. :)
JeffMN
I do think Dominga and Jairo make a great couple. Too bad they couldn't have met earlier and had a few little ones. :)
I do hope to see Alborada and Amor Real some day. Maybe they'll show up as Grande Historias or something at noon so I can see them. We started watching TNs late January of LFMBs run, so probably around episode 200? We've watched a lot of them since then. Ones we haven't really watched, we have some idea of what is going on. We'll probably watch the start of most (?all) of them now just to see what they are like and whether we want to continue. :)
JeffMN
Permalink posted by : Sunday, May 31, 2009 at 10:59:00 PM EDT
: Sunday, May 31, 2009 at 10:59:00 PM EDT
Yes Carlos, pits do play rough! My 45 pound pit drags my 60 pound boxer around the house by her collar! It's the funniest thing. Collars are expensive though! Hope BB is doing well.
Me too Jardinera. I wish they would give her a chair or something to sit on. At least they don't call her "the girl." That one is particularly insulting. Watched my recording last night. Loved it. Don't you think the too goons are kind of conspicuous in their dark clothes and dark coats? (At least they weren't wearing neon white tennis shoes like somebody else we know.) It's just funny to me.
Why do the rich folks always get all dressed up just to go into town to file a police report? Once my pantyhose are off, they're not going back on. Jeans and a nice shirt for me. I guess flip flops are not too cool but at least some sandals.
Why do the rich folks always get all dressed up just to go into town to file a police report? Once my pantyhose are off, they're not going back on. Jeans and a nice shirt for me. I guess flip flops are not too cool but at least some sandals.
Carlos: I stopped counting at 200 Z's. .....I've always loved those "wait and see" challenges. ; ? )
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JeffMN: I think Denia will have to see the error of her ways and be redeemed, but we need her to make mischief to keep things lively for at least the middle part of this roller coaster ride. ABora sure ain't cuttin' it. ! 8 ? p
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CherylNM: Yes, I was straining for that foothold myself, but Jacinto sure as heck wasn't going to offer!
Mon Jun 01, 12:09:00 AM EDT
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JeffMN: I think Denia will have to see the error of her ways and be redeemed, but we need her to make mischief to keep things lively for at least the middle part of this roller coaster ride. ABora sure ain't cuttin' it. ! 8 ? p
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CherylNM: Yes, I was straining for that foothold myself, but Jacinto sure as heck wasn't going to offer!
Mon Jun 01, 12:09:00 AM EDT
Aurora with amnesia? Honestly, could you even tell the difference? She seems to know little of her past anyway, and what she does know (i.e. abuse from Dominga) doesn't influence her decisions in a positive way.
Heck, she would probably be better off with amnesia. It would give Santi more of a shot with her, too.
Heck, she would probably be better off with amnesia. It would give Santi more of a shot with her, too.
I still think Santi is going to end up with Aurora and Erika is going to end up with Esteve. Esteve owes Erika that much after giving her all this hope with Eduardo.
I actually would have predicted Lili for Steve, but Lili still seems to be a mess and I'm starting to wonder if she'll ever recover. Maybe all those years of heavy sedation caused brain damage. :=(
I predict that Pris and Ani patch things up somehow, and Vlad ends up with Florecita to make up for throwing her under the bus.
As for Gardenia, I don't know who she'll end up with (maybe I'm forgetting someone, but I think we're out of eligible bachelors except for that doctor at the clinic who's clearly destined for Martina), but Gardenia owes big time for hiding those letters and I think she's going to have to wait longer for her reward.
I actually would have predicted Lili for Steve, but Lili still seems to be a mess and I'm starting to wonder if she'll ever recover. Maybe all those years of heavy sedation caused brain damage. :=(
I predict that Pris and Ani patch things up somehow, and Vlad ends up with Florecita to make up for throwing her under the bus.
As for Gardenia, I don't know who she'll end up with (maybe I'm forgetting someone, but I think we're out of eligible bachelors except for that doctor at the clinic who's clearly destined for Martina), but Gardenia owes big time for hiding those letters and I think she's going to have to wait longer for her reward.
Thank you Jardinera once again for a brillant intellectual comedy recap.
I don't know about Dominga and Jairo being touched by the blasts. Seems possible to me that they may be immune to fire that being their natural environment. Hee hee hee.
Now, Barb is a smart lady. When she finds out Cad disabled the car by CUTTING the wires, which any repairman will report, she will regret ever having the idea that she could possibly work with this idiot. Can't this "insect" do anything right?! Nope.
I think Cad wants to tarnish the respect people have for Franco because Franco took up with Eroicka. Cad is the type that believes when he finishes with a woman then she's just trash. When Erioka told Cad that Franco was far better than him Cad decided he has to prove Franco is a nobody.
I don't know about Dominga and Jairo being touched by the blasts. Seems possible to me that they may be immune to fire that being their natural environment. Hee hee hee.
Now, Barb is a smart lady. When she finds out Cad disabled the car by CUTTING the wires, which any repairman will report, she will regret ever having the idea that she could possibly work with this idiot. Can't this "insect" do anything right?! Nope.
I think Cad wants to tarnish the respect people have for Franco because Franco took up with Eroicka. Cad is the type that believes when he finishes with a woman then she's just trash. When Erioka told Cad that Franco was far better than him Cad decided he has to prove Franco is a nobody.
Julie, you're right, who'd notice a difference if Aurora has amnesia? It certainly wouldn't alter her life significantly.I'd like to see her demonstrate a reasonable independent thought, show some spontaneity, or even a genuine smile. She's like a beautiful porcelain doll with a little too much Xanax in her system. She could use a transfusion of giddiness from Erika and maybe a confidence transplant from Gardenia. The fun girls need to invite her over for a slumber party.
Carlos
Carlos
That's a good point, Carlos... after years of influence from the nuns at school and Dominga, Aurora could use a variety of role models. Add Fernanda to the slumber party too, since she seems to be living a reality-based lifestyle. Gardenia and Errorika could use some lessons in that.
Speaking of role models, what's the deal with Venus? Does she like working at Big-Cups, or does she just not think she can do anything else or get the same kind of work someplace else?
She seems quite willing to help her coworkers escape, so it's not as though she's devoted to Jairo.
Maybe she'll end up like Miss Kitty, running the bar herself someday (assuming it gets rebuilt and that Jairo is DEAD).
Oh!! Maybe Jairo left it to her in his will!!
Speaking of role models, what's the deal with Venus? Does she like working at Big-Cups, or does she just not think she can do anything else or get the same kind of work someplace else?
She seems quite willing to help her coworkers escape, so it's not as though she's devoted to Jairo.
Maybe she'll end up like Miss Kitty, running the bar herself someday (assuming it gets rebuilt and that Jairo is DEAD).
Oh!! Maybe Jairo left it to her in his will!!
Julie~``To me, Venus seems to be a tough , pragnatic little cookie who has decided to accept her career and make the best of it, but she seems to understand that it is not for everyone [Martina, Lili, Aurora] and is goodheaarted enough to help them escape. I'd like to see her rewarded in the finale. Maybe the Miss Kitty idea would be appropo since Esteve is only one American man and we've already teamed him with Lili or Error or Gardenia. It seems that whatever happens to Venus, she will have to save herself, and I hope that she will. I love strong women. [I had lunch yesterday with 3 longterm friends-we all taught high school together and raised our kids together and have gone through lots of happy and sad and difficult moments together , so I had to toast them, and I would also toast the strong women of MEPS] Venus is the female equivalent of The Rock . Dwayne Johnson [aka The Rock] was a football star at a local high school . He reinvented himself as an actor with great success , so perhaps Venus can do the same.
Permalink posted by : Monday, June 1, 2009 at 12:39:00 PM EDT
: Monday, June 1, 2009 at 12:39:00 PM EDT
I think that Dominga and Jairo will spend the rest of their lives together, and they will be united for eternity. However, "the rest of their lives" should last about 2.7 seconds, and the "united for eternity" is because they were blown apart by the blast and no one realized they were human remains, so they were hauled to the dump with the rest of the debris.
I agree about the amnesia and Aurora. My point was that we would have to painfully sit by and watch her go through it. I don't think I can handle it.
Julie: Regarding your matchmaking, remember that they usually introduce new characters as we go along, so maybe there will be a few more eligible bachelors introduced before the end. How far along are we, anyway, does anyone know?
MEPS in AZ
MEPS in AZ
Permalink posted by : Monday, June 1, 2009 at 1:24:00 PM EDT
: Monday, June 1, 2009 at 1:24:00 PM EDT
Amor Real has some very sexy scenes. Loved it when Matilde had taken a bath, Manuel came in & caressed & kissed her. She said she needed to put on her nightgown & he said she was fine the way she was. Now no one could say those words like FC.
& Manuel in the bathtub, Antonia starts washing him very slowly & then climbed in the bathtub with him, now who could blame her?
I've only watched disc 1 side 1, but it's really great.
Recognized Esteve by his voice, he really looks different. Mario Iván Martinez.
Ana Martin from DA, Gaviota's mom, is Manuel's mom. Antonia is Chantal Andere, Minerva in DA.
& Manuel in the bathtub, Antonia starts washing him very slowly & then climbed in the bathtub with him, now who could blame her?
I've only watched disc 1 side 1, but it's really great.
Recognized Esteve by his voice, he really looks different. Mario Iván Martinez.
Ana Martin from DA, Gaviota's mom, is Manuel's mom. Antonia is Chantal Andere, Minerva in DA.
Well, with respect to the amnesia, my point was that there wouldn't be much to go through, either for her or for us. She doesn't seem to know anything important. They wouldn't have to spend any story time on it!
It'd be different if Eduardo got amnesia. That'd be a mess and would take forever to undo. Gardenia could take advantage, too.
I hope you're right about introducing new bachelors, MEPS in AZ! Most of the new people we've met lately have been bad guys!
We're about halfway through or maybe a little less, I believe. Tonight is episode 75, but I see at least up to 144 on YouTube right now and it looks like someone expects it to go to 160 (maybe the last few weeks are half-hours there, I'm not sure).
It'd be different if Eduardo got amnesia. That'd be a mess and would take forever to undo. Gardenia could take advantage, too.
I hope you're right about introducing new bachelors, MEPS in AZ! Most of the new people we've met lately have been bad guys!
We're about halfway through or maybe a little less, I believe. Tonight is episode 75, but I see at least up to 144 on YouTube right now and it looks like someone expects it to go to 160 (maybe the last few weeks are half-hours there, I'm not sure).
Jardinera, thanks for the fun and witty recap. So many good lines but especially loved: "Vlad, dressed for beddie-bye in his baby blue jammies and sipping at his Yogi’s Bedtime best valerian herbal, seems a bit lost discussing the intricacies of corporate espionage with his machinating mentor." Wonderful!
Diana in MA
Diana in MA
Permalink posted by : Monday, June 1, 2009 at 2:00:00 PM EDT
: Monday, June 1, 2009 at 2:00:00 PM EDT
My interest in Abora is what will Barb do when she finds out how her baby girl has been treat-ted. Love this show.
I was watching Alborada at lunch and I think we should all wear tiaras to work and the guys should have to wear those sexy leather boots. I had to start over because I forgot where I left off. It does seem a little choppy.
Aloborada and Amor Real are cool. Wish I got to see the entire run instead of just condensed dvds. Since most of you are still clowning FELS enjoy this little cartoon I found on the interwebs.
http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/7637/30221517333d3cd4879ebkd6.jpg
It is originally from this site:
http://telenovelasyestrellas.blogspot.com/2008/11/telenovelas-mexico-caricatura-del-final.html
Ibarramedia
http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/7637/30221517333d3cd4879ebkd6.jpg
It is originally from this site:
http://telenovelasyestrellas.blogspot.com/2008/11/telenovelas-mexico-caricatura-del-final.html
Ibarramedia
Permalink posted by : Monday, June 1, 2009 at 2:40:00 PM EDT
: Monday, June 1, 2009 at 2:40:00 PM EDT
Agree, Bonney, I want to see what Babs will do and I want to see the impact of each one's being on the other. . .will Babs soften and repent or will she school Aurora in the fine art of venganza? Y agree with you on Cad re his attitude towards woemn. He's immature and insecure and does indeed seem to look at the exertions of love-making as excrement. That characterization, along with his little anal mouth and smirk adds up to the character we luuuv to hate! Little Boy Bronze is doing a good job being odious!
Khalilah
Khalilah
Permalink posted by : Monday, June 1, 2009 at 2:41:00 PM EDT
: Monday, June 1, 2009 at 2:41:00 PM EDT
Hey... maybe Camilo's the one who should get amnesia. Would this turn him into a blank slate with a chance of becoming a nice guy? Then he could be recycled into decent boyfriend material.
Wow Julie, you're asking a lot there. Amnesia yes. Good boyfriend material...hmmmmm....how about a stablehand of some sort. The one that has to clean the stalls. Sounds fitting to me!
Julie~~~That brings up a question : Do villains ever suffer from amnesia , or does it only affect the heroes and heroines in novelas ? When Hippolita was knocked on the head as she was fleeing back to Pananma with her son and hub and had amnesia , it gave Luis the opportunity to win her over again .
Permalink posted by : Monday, June 1, 2009 at 5:08:00 PM EDT
: Monday, June 1, 2009 at 5:08:00 PM EDT
Jardinera, thanks for another excellent recap. It inspired so many hilarious comments, there's little I can add, except "gracias and salud" to all.
I'm really enjoying this tn. The pace moves well, not bogging down in whirlpools of repetition (yes, FELS, I'm talking about you) and the cast is great.
La Paloma
I'm really enjoying this tn. The pace moves well, not bogging down in whirlpools of repetition (yes, FELS, I'm talking about you) and the cast is great.
La Paloma
Permalink posted by : Monday, June 1, 2009 at 5:24:00 PM EDT
: Monday, June 1, 2009 at 5:24:00 PM EDT
I sure don't miss the whirlpools of repition. That got old real fast. I don't remember DA being repititious so maybe it was just FELS.
I found DA a teeny bit repetitious (Rod and Gavi kept believing proven liars telling them bad stuff about each other), but not to the extent that FELS was.
I haven't been watching telenovelas as long as some of our pals here, but I can't remember a villain ever getting amnesia, either in telenovelas or in any other fiction. However, I'm sure I'm just forgetting something (no pun intended), because it opens up a lot of possibilities. Surely it's been done bunches of times.
Oh, oh, speaking of DA, I think I saw Elvis in one of the previews for that Gancho show. He won't be the same without his snobby Abuela!
I haven't been watching telenovelas as long as some of our pals here, but I can't remember a villain ever getting amnesia, either in telenovelas or in any other fiction. However, I'm sure I'm just forgetting something (no pun intended), because it opens up a lot of possibilities. Surely it's been done bunches of times.
Oh, oh, speaking of DA, I think I saw Elvis in one of the previews for that Gancho show. He won't be the same without his snobby Abuela!
Connie, I think the repetition in DA was Rod and Gav saying they would love and believe in each other forever. Then... Aaron or someone would tell a lie about one or the other. They would not listen to each other and get in a fight and separate for awhile. That would repeat ad nauseum...
That was one of my earliest TNs, but others seemed to have a similar flow. That is what surprised me when I watched Pasion. Something would come up and we'd say, here we go again (remembering DA) they are going to get in a fight and have problems... But... lo and behold, they sat down talked, got the true story and things continued. What a concept, talking things out! :)
I think that is part of the reason why DA and FELS lasted so long and Pasion was so short. They talked things out and got back on track on Pasion and didn't have the long detours. :)
JeffMN
That was one of my earliest TNs, but others seemed to have a similar flow. That is what surprised me when I watched Pasion. Something would come up and we'd say, here we go again (remembering DA) they are going to get in a fight and have problems... But... lo and behold, they sat down talked, got the true story and things continued. What a concept, talking things out! :)
I think that is part of the reason why DA and FELS lasted so long and Pasion was so short. They talked things out and got back on track on Pasion and didn't have the long detours. :)
JeffMN
Permalink posted by : Monday, June 1, 2009 at 6:26:00 PM EDT
: Monday, June 1, 2009 at 6:26:00 PM EDT
Julie, you posted while I was typing, yes, repetition on DA. Great minds think alike.
I think you said it better though, what I wanted to say, :) "kept believing proven liars telling them bad stuff about each other". That's what was hard believing about DA and FELS... Hey! Get a clue and take a look who's telling you this BS! :)
JeffMN
I think you said it better though, what I wanted to say, :) "kept believing proven liars telling them bad stuff about each other". That's what was hard believing about DA and FELS... Hey! Get a clue and take a look who's telling you this BS! :)
JeffMN
Permalink posted by : Monday, June 1, 2009 at 6:32:00 PM EDT
: Monday, June 1, 2009 at 6:32:00 PM EDT
I thought of one movie in which the villain got amnesia---''Overboard.'' It was one of my mother's favorite movies , and she watched it every time it was on. Goldie Hawn was a snooty rich woman bossing around a carpenter [Kurt Russel]. She fell overboard, got amnesia, ended up with Kurt's character and became good. However, I've never seen a TN in which the villain had amnesia. It might be an interesting twist. Maybe he/she could change his/her evil ways and be redeemed.
Permalink posted by : Monday, June 1, 2009 at 6:56:00 PM EDT
: Monday, June 1, 2009 at 6:56:00 PM EDT
Bonney churros, DianeMA, La Paloma: just got back from the gristmill. Glad to see you made it into the fray today and that you enjoyed the word play.
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From what I gather on the other blog/s, this refrito is actually following Pura Sangre very closely, unlike FELS or DA did with their predecessors. I'm keeping my fingers crossed that the quality doesn't drop because of the extended number of episodios.
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From what I gather on the other blog/s, this refrito is actually following Pura Sangre very closely, unlike FELS or DA did with their predecessors. I'm keeping my fingers crossed that the quality doesn't drop because of the extended number of episodios.
Oh! I remember "Overboard." Also, in "Regarding Henry" (not recommended), a cheating husband gets amnesia and doesn't remember his affair. Not exactly a villain, just a lousy husband... and the movie was booooooring.
No, I want something where a hit man gets amnesia. LOL, Google to the rescue - that's the plot of Hitman III.
Wikipedia also lists The Long Kiss Goodnight and Spiderman 3, which I just saw a few weeks ago, as movies where bad guys get amnesia. See? I knew I was forgetting something!
Now I want to see it in a telenovela!
No, I want something where a hit man gets amnesia. LOL, Google to the rescue - that's the plot of Hitman III.
Wikipedia also lists The Long Kiss Goodnight and Spiderman 3, which I just saw a few weeks ago, as movies where bad guys get amnesia. See? I knew I was forgetting something!
Now I want to see it in a telenovela!
I am so gullible. There hasn't been a movie Hitman III (or even Hitman II yet). That's not the plot of the Hitman 3 game either. It was just a joke video on YouTube. Never mind. :-)
Julie, good eye. I saw a Gancho commercial and Elvis was indeed on it.
JeffMN
JeffMN
Permalink posted by : Monday, June 1, 2009 at 8:02:00 PM EDT
: Monday, June 1, 2009 at 8:02:00 PM EDT
That's what I loved about Pasión - Ric and Cami were pretty much liar-proof, idiot-proof, and confident in themselves and each other. That was such a relief after DA and LFMB (and especially before FELS). I'd like to see more couples like that in telenovelas.
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