Caray, Caray!

Good morning Rgv Chick. I actually saw this last night. Like the characters in the telenovela I was having a real night of insomnia. Wish I could look as good as Angelique after a sleepless night!

Not sure how Leonchi is going to get out of this mess now that he has been identified by his fingerprints. I found the scene where he tried (at first in vain) to convince Camilo that he was truly his friend Leon. Thought both actors played it very well.

And I see that we're having a typical Cinderella romance shaping up between Guille and his secretary. Introducing the upper class to street food is always the first step. Works for me.

Do you think we're going to see each "transmigrated soul" evolve as the story goes? El Chino in Beltran's body will learn to become more compassionate and caring for others as he witnesses his "son's" illness. And will Leon in Chino's body become tougher, more ruthless, but also more macho? And will Lucia fall in love with the new improved Leon in a 30 year old body? Lots of intriguing possibilities in this one.

Thanks so much for starting this Rgv Chick. You have made a lot of people in the virtual family room happy. Welcome aboard Kirby, Jardinera and Princess.
 

Oh...and super clever title. So clever it took me a while, in my dazed morning state, to figure out what it meant. But definitely clever!
 

Yeah JudyB, I want to see Lucia when she realizes what her new and improved hubby looks like. I bettcha it will shock her panties off.

Thanks RGV. I am still trying to memorize all the people's names.

So Johny openly discusses making Eva disappear with Lucia. I dislike her so much that a great pair of legs can not even bring me around.

I am anxious for LeonChi to start discovering how Johny (and partially Lucia) plotted his death. He needs to go to the Comeback gym and train. He has Chino's body, but not his skills. He has managed to get his ass beaten a couple of times already. He still THINKS like a rich powerful man, but he and Camilo are the only ones who know who he is.

I wonder, does he have ONLY Leon's memories, or both Leon and Chino's or mostly Leon's with a smattering of Chino's? I have seen a few spots that made me think both he and Lanky have some of each, but can not recall exactly where.
 

Thanks, JudyB and Kirby!

JudyB, "Do you think we're going to see each "transmigrated soul" evolve as the story goes?" I was wondering the same thing. Leonchi's exasperation at having a murderer's body and his beating up the show host was much more in line with what El Chino would do. And Beltino playing with Javier and going to apologize to Octavio is not in line with what El Chino would do. Each soul has a different heart now. Could it be that teh hearts are affecting the souls. There have bern many incidences when heart recipients get emotions and sensations that the heart donor experienced...could that be happening here?

Kirby< I'm having trouble keeping up with names too..and trying to figure out names. I'm still not sure if the Carvajal maid's name (she is the maid right?) is Celina; it sounded different last night. Theses people talk too fast!

And Kirby, "I dislike her so much that a great pair of legs can not even bring me around." I'm shocked! LOL

Johny must have a lot of trust in Lucia to tell her EVERYTHING and suggest more murders. He shows no restraint in telling her about all his devious deeds and plans.
 

Rgv Chick...I even heard of a heart recipient who developed a mad craving for chicken wings. Turned out the donor was nuts about them. Freaky, huh?
 

It's been a while, but I am back! I am really enjoying the episodes, although with my limited Spanish, and the fast pace of events, it is difficult for me to follow. I was so happy to find the synopsis of each episode and comments posted so quickly. Angelique has been my favorite actress since I first saw her in "Teresa," and she is certainly not disappointing in this project. What talent! Thanks to all who are contributing for your time and effort. It is greatly appreciated.
 

Judy and RGV this brings up the age old question about heart and mind, like the mind says one thing and the heart another.

And there always looks to be corroborating evidence when we all know the heart is simply a fairly reliable fluid pump.

I have always assumed, based on absolutely nothing, that the heart is an autonomous section of the brain.

But I actually know I should just stick to carburetors and spark plugs.
 

Ginger, welcome. We have a lot of fun here and hope you will too.
 

JudyB, that's exactly the type of thing I'm talking about. Chicken wings, huh? Geez, if anyone got my heart, they'd better stock up on dark chocolate :-)

Ginger, so glad you're back, welcome! This TN has pleasantly surprised me...it keeps getting better with every new episode.

Kirby, "the age old question about heart and mind" ... quite a conundrum isn't it, but what wondrous testimonials give it merit.
 

Rgv Chick- can you confirm if I'll be on the recapping team for Tuesday nights?
 

Princess Juju, please email me at rgvchick627@gmail.com.
 

Hello, everybody! Thank you, Rgv Chick for getting the group started. It looks like a nice little gang is forming around this story.
Today I binged the first 5 episodes, so some of the details are a little murky in my head, but I think I got most of the story and where this is headed.
What I don't get is what was the plan that Lucia and Jonny had at the beginning. After Leon died Lucia kept saying "this is not what we decided." What was it, then, for her to play happy wife to the older guy, live the fancy life and enjoy the young stud on the side, while Jonny did shady stuff at the company?
The flashbacks and her general demeanor show us that she did care about Leon, but then she says that too bad she fell for Jonny instead. She is one sick puppy.
I would be in Eva's corner 100% if she wasn't so "big eyes crazy" about the whole thing. How long before hubby gets tired of her routine?

The only downside so far is the fact that this reminds me too much of En otra piel, which is only a few years old. But Michel Brown is a big draw for me, it's been a while since I've seen him act.

See you, guys, around, after my next binge (or hopefully, sooner than that).
 

Hi, Adriana Noel!! Glad you stopped by; always nice to here from you and see that precious little girl :-)

I'm not exactly sure what the duo had in mind when they first plotted against Leon, but I'm thinking Lucia thought they were just going to try to take control of the company or swindle as much money from Leon...to start their own company?? So many possibilities.

Michel Brown was a draw for me too. I saw him in "Falco" and liked him...especially those sexy blue eyes.

Looking forward to your comments!
 

Hi everyone--stopping in to check on recaps and comments. Thank you, Rgv Chick--up to your usual excellent work. As for trying to get UA in on this, she said she'd watch the prior episodes and give us a thumbs up or down. I was suggesting she and I share two days a month each. That should give you some more coverage. Anyway, we wait and see.

When is Leonchi going to shave or trim his beard? It's a dead giveaway, even in Mexico. I noted he did get a nice haircut between the bath towel scene and putting on some clothes.

As for Leon's body, maybe the real body had other commitments. Besides, obviously, he is recognizable all over Mexico so he would have to have transmigrated somewhere else. They may be keeping Beltran's soul for a later on surprise.

I'm with Adriana's take on what Johny and Lucia were up to. He may have told her a lie and planned to kill Leon all along. He had to do it immediately after the wedding, before Leon had time to either write a will or change the one he had. Since Johny was his right-hand trustee, he probably would have known or advised Leon about a will, apart from the lawyer. I can see why Lucia was willing to be wooed, won and wed to Leon, even if she set her eyes on him first. For someone 30 years older, he was fit, handsome and rich. And she'd probably tried him out in bed, too. Nothing wrong with that. We'll soon know from Leon himself if there is a properly executed will.

Johny was showing Lucia on his computer all the ins and outs of the Carvajal enterprise and gloating that all this was hers. Maybe he knows something we don't. Lucia was mildly interested, but more concerned about Eva.
 

OT--
Vivi in DC contacted Susanlynn and heard back from her on October 31. She said I could post her reply.

"I heard back from Susanlynn. It's just so sad! They had been together since she was 17 and it's really turned her world upside down to lose him. Luckily, her daughters have been trying to help her, but she still feels lost without her hubby. Thanks again for letting me know. Let's keep sending her our love."

If anyone wants to send Susanlynn a personal message, contact me by e-mail and I'll share her e-mail address. I know she always wanted to remain a private, non-Google person, but she certainly shared so much of her life with her hub and family with her Caray family.

Susanlynn would have loved Amar a Muerte, I'm sure.
 

Thank you, Anita. Any added coverage would certainly be appreciated.

I do wish Michel would trim his beard too; he looked so much better in Falco.

When Johny was showing her the stuff no the computer she was indeed "mildy" interested but also seemed mucho confused.
 

Oh, thank you for sharing about Susanlynn, Anita. She has been dropping in on the Mi Marido patio once in a while and it is a relief to hear from her.
 

Patio Peeps, don't forget to adjust your clocks tonight...Fall BACK!!
 

RgvChick, I can't watch this but I absolutely loved the title.

I can tell you are all having fun here and wish I could join you but it's just too late.

Adriana Noel, nice to see your post!

Anita, I will be e-mailing you...

Diana
 

I had heard about Susanlynn (thanks for letting me know, Rgv) - it's just so sad, I can't even begin to imagine what she's going through...


I noticed that Valentina goes at the same school where Beltino teaches. When Leonchi manages to infiltrate his family, how long before Beltino sees his own own body around campus and freaks out ?

Are both Valentina and Eva developping a drinking problem? We've seen Eva's hubby worried about her but for now she seems to be hanging in there. Valentina is a bottle away from a serious accident, imo (maybe with a car?)
Leonchi doesn't even guess what is waiting for him back home.
I say YES to getting rid of that awful beard. Either way, Johnny doesn't stand a chance when Lucia will set her eyes on him.

Thank you,all,for the warm welcome.
 

Did Leon not even do a background check on Lucia, at least before the marriage? It's hard to believe that with his intelligence he didn't bother ever to find out who she was. Also what about Eva? Is she really making all of these assumptions of Lucia out of the dark and yet hitting the mark each time? It's hard to believe she wouldn't investigate her either. And wouldn't Lucia's former clients know of her by now and be lining up to receive money, whether it's from the press or her? Or maybe her past occurred in the US? She's getting extensive coverage in Mexico. Someone would have said something by now.

Johnny has to have something else up his sleeve. Would he really have killed Leon so fast before he could have drafted a will in favor of Lucia? He settled for 25%, when he could have gotten half perhaps? Leon really did seem blindfolded about Lucia. Or is he counting on the children to die one by one in some way or other? And why would Leon not have made a will in the first place? With Johnny being his righthand, its very believable that even Johnny would have received a part of the estate, however small. He was the son Leon never had.

Not sure how Beltran's body has affected el chino's actions, but Bertran apparently neglected his son and wife and was very into his work. The wife and the maid were surprised that beltino was spending the tine playing ball with the son. The son also seemed shocked at the table when beltino accepted to play with him at all. Beltran apparently never spent quality time with him ever. Perhaps in some way el chino feels some type of affection for the kid knowing that physically it's his son, or he's living a fantasy of actually having a son that he can mold into him. Maybe it's both. But i think chino went to apologize to his friend to get money for his son's operation. Or for help in something else. The scene where they're both drinking suggests he has something up his sleeve.
 

Wow I can't wait to get caught up and the recaps and postings,
 

Can’t wait to read your take on this, Victoria!
 

Anon 8:34, you pose some very good questions. As I see it, Leon and his family were aware of Lucia's past. I'm sure Lucia gave him a sob story about how she was an innocent victim of circumstance and nefarious individuals, beginning with her mother. Leon seemed like such a kind-hearted, understanding and probably lonely, individual; so he probably was also one of those individuals who would say, "The past is just that; let's move forward." When he first met Lucia she looked like an innocent, wholesome young girl and I'm sure she has been putting on an award-winning performance to lure him into her web...and of course assisted by Johny-be-not-good who also probably convinced Leon that Lucia would be god for him.

If Johny is planning on the children dying off, he is really stoopid. The investigator is already very suspicious...can you imagine what he would suspect if the children died? OTOH, Johny is already trying to bribe him; so who knows what cover-ups could be in store.

And you're right about Beltino having something up his sleeve. Your suggestions are quite on target...let me just add that maybe Beltino needs a quick lesson on being a professor???
 

I wrote, "Johny-be-not-good who also probably convinced Leon that Lucia would be god for him." I meant "good" not "god", but "god" could work too :-)
 

Princess Juju, please email me ASAP if you are still interested in recapping.

Jarifa alerted me to the fact that AAM will be preempted this coming Tuesday due to election coverage (eye roll). It will also be preempted on Thursday, Nov. 15th due to the Latin Grammys...let the preemptions begin! BLECH!
 

Anon, I hadn't yet thought about the Carvajals doing a background check on Lucia, but as Rgv says, maybe they found out some of the truth. When Eva assumed that Johnny is in cahoots with Lucia she was probably just saying whatever passed through her head without giving it to much thought. All the Carvajal kids seem to trust Johnny enough, so we'll see how she reacts to him moving forward.

Now I wonder about Johnny Be Bad's motive (sorry, Rgv, but the guy is truly rotten). In the flashback with Leon at the office on the balcony they talked about one of the kids one day appreciating the job as much as Leon. Could Johnny be a long lost son from Leon's youth? Maybe Saint Leo did have his fun before settling down and becoming the best at everything (therefor being more forgiving with Lucia's past).
Why would he hate the guy so much, just because of his political ambitions? It seems much more personal than that.

There was a scene before Chino was electrocuted when he was fighting with his wife and he kind of implied that his daughter wasn't his flesh and blood. Maybe he thinks that his wife cheated and that's why he could never get close to the girl? Or maybe he's just a macho who would have preferred to have a boy to play sports with? Either way, he does seem to connect with Javier. Where did he hide that huge briefcase of money, was it in the US?
 

Adrianna: Good Morning. Nice to 'see' you and Loveable again. When Chino hid the money it didn't seem like a long drive, not like as far as to Laredo or the border, so it seemed to me to just be far enough to be out of town.

As far as Johny Be Bad, I had assumed it was just pure greed and jealousy. It seems a popular theme that there is a thin line between a helper's admiration of his/her successful boss before it turns into psycho jealousy. But they usually want the big guy's woman after she is with the rich guy, not before.

Yes Johny seems to be an inextricable part of the family, and he has weasel written all over him. For Lucia to be crying over Leon so long and so genuinely after his death, does she not hold any malice toward JBB for having him killed? She sure seems forgiving about the whole mess. What ya want to bet that LeonChi will not be quite so generous?


 

I forgot to welcome you back Adriana! But so glad that you're here and that we get to see a pic of your adorable little girl every day. I like your theory about Johnny Be Bad being an old blow by of Leon's, out to get revenge. It's pure telenovela plotting, so certainly possible.
 

Adriana, “Johnny Be Bad” I like that! And interesting theory about him being Leon’s “old blow” teehee I like that too, JudyB!

Kirby, you’re so right about Lucia not holding any malice toward JBB. Is she that in luuurve with him? If she is, her body language says quite the opposite...except when they’re in bed.
 

Thanks, Judy, it's been a while, amiga, how are you doing? Is it winter yet in your part of the world? Paris is cooold, but still no snow.

Kirby, I assume pure greed is a good enough reason, and if you add Jonny having to witness Leon always putting his less worthy actual kids before him than maybe we can get a glimpse of his madness.
Lucia seems to suffer the "idiot because it serves the plot" ailment, more usually seen in spineless galans, where she goes along with Johnny's plans because her brain doesn't know any better. She has a bit of a Scarlet O'hara complex, too, she swore she will never be hungry again...whatever takes her through the day, I Guess. We've seen that her nights are not so great.
 

Hey there Adriana...it's nippy here and the Fall leaves are glorious. No snow yet either. In Ohio we specialize in gray skies but usually not a lot of snow, apart from the occasional blizzard. I don't remember Paris as being particularly cold in the Winter, but then I was in my twenties when I lived there and weather didn't make much of a dent in my psyche. Now it's a big topic! along with aches and pains. And grizzling over my latest grandson Will, who's just a year old and actually lives in town. Pure joy.
 

Aaaaa, à new baby in the family, that's so amazing! And you get to do all the fun, granny stuff. My daughter's grandparents live very far away, so they spoil her rotten when they get the chance, but I've given up on trying to reason with them.
You being close all the time looks like a win-win situation.

I forgot to ask earlier : is it true that Mexican law stipulates that a fortune is devided equally between all heirs ? Doesn't the wife get more ? Anyone here an expert ?
 

Adriana, I've tried looking for info on what the Mexican law stipulates. The only thing that I have found so far is that the children will definitely inherit the estate equally. The only thing it says about the spouse is that if there are no children, the spouse will be the heir.

I'm still looking though.