Monday, September 17, 2012

Amorcito Corazón Discussion #109-113 Sept. 17-21

Thanks for your patience.  Please let me know what I missed or misinterpreted.
 
The drunkards, F5 and Fer, are given coffee.  I think Blue Lass mentioned this earlier but our guys really need some professional help with regard to their increasing abuse of alcohol.  They are fortunate they have not had a serious car accident at this point.  Yet, they can’t use being drunk as an excuse for falling in bed with Sabrina; so unfortunate male protagonists, get your acts together before you wake up in someone else’s bed or worse.

Lucia is livid about her kidnaping (surprise, not).  Willy sends the boys back home and keeps Lucia as his captive.  She attempts to escape by going to the bathroom but gets caught in the window.  At this point we have no couples together and watching the evil ones make gains is painful.

Speaking of wickedness, after being booted from Fer’s apt earlier (EWM and Horny were there to bring Marisol back home and found the boys drunk), EWM returns (from this point on there is frown on my face).  She orchestrates that Doris take F5 home and Fer stupidly does not dismiss the witch from his home.  Once he has passed out, she starts to disrobe but doesn’t want to be a one-night stand.  Hence we are not subjected to her trying to pounce on him while drunk.  Instead she curls up into bed with him, ACK!  When Doris returns, she finds EWM in Fer’s bed and thankfully our psycho gets up.  But our joy is short lived because she threatens Doris with exposure.  Minnie hears their fight and wonders what the big secret is.  The consummate liar tells Minnie that Isa slept with Jorrible and threatens Doris again.  The next morning, the stalker is there when Fer wakes up but for some reason no alarms go off in his liquor-soaked mind.  Though we all know have that even sober, Fer would remain clueless about EWM’s obsession.

Not surprisingly, Lucia is not the cooperative captive that Willy wanted.  After her attempted bathroom escape, she tricks him into thinking there is a rat in their room.  When he looks for it, she conks him on the head.  She escapes but realizes they are in a secluded area in the woods and returns to find him.  He interprets it as Lucia wanting him but she didn’t know where she was.  As the evening wears on, Lucia does soften and allows Willy to kiss her.  By the end of the episode, Willy “ties” Lucia so she can escape to see if she will return to him out of her own freewill.  Mientras tanto Padre and Sor Pilar look for Lucia.  When asking the usual suspects does not help, Padre goes to Lala.  While she doesn’t know what Willy has done at that moment, when the boys come home she knows something is up.  But in spite of knowing Willy is anything but rationale about Lucia at this point, she brings the boys to Padre, who threatens them with jail if they don’t reveal where Willy is.

This could develop into something, hopefully not bad – one of the kind, young girls at the Casa Hogar is ill but the others won’t ask the Padre for help as he’s ticked at them for helping Willy kidnap.

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Karen,
Please accept my abject apologies. If I hadn't done two in a row, this would have fallen to me.

:-(
 

Bleah. Hardly worth watching. Throw up a couple bullets and get on with your life -- "otra cosa, mariposa."
 

I haven't watched yet. Your review doesn't sound promising, Blue. *le sigh*
 

The scenes with Willy and Lucia were good though. Don't know how the girl resisted!
 

I just found it exasperating. Tricky tricksters up to their tricks.

The only really funny part was Willy yelling "NACHOCHICHOJUANCHOMONCHO--OUTSIDE!" I wonder how many times he had to practice that? ;}
 

I know what you mean Vivi! Oops! I almost said I'm a huge Willy fan. Glad I caught myself!
 

LOL! Sara, you naughty girl!
 

Thanks for the heads up, Blue Lass! That sounds like something to look forward to!

 

Oh yes, Vivi. Back Row girl represent!
 

It's up now and though a downer episode it did give me more opportunity castigate those I dislike or who vex me and at this point of the TN is almost everyone ;)

Sara, no problem. We have about 100 more episodes to go so there must be "bad" episodes. And you do most of rest so that lot falls to you often. I am happy to take one for the team.

Yes Blue Lass/Vivi the only redeeming parts were Willy and Lucia. I too don't know how she resisted him.

I kind of wanted her to break and get caught by the Padre. He would then make Lucia reconsider her vows whereas Sor Pilar would stick with her agenda to trap Lucia.
 

Thanks Karen for the great recap. Really, I only half watched the parts with the drunk Fs (F for FOOL). I also didn't understand how Fer didn't think it strange that Mani was waiting in his room for him to wake up, staring at him. What about that didn't just scream STALKER?

 

Vivi, yes Mani is a complete stalker. While I still love this TN, the stupidity of the leads tries ones nerves. The writers need to create better scenarios to keep people apart b/c when you have them continue to make decisions that defy basic common sense, their love doesn't seem that great.

Aside from the boys and their locuras, Isa's look of shock whenever Jorrible touches her is ridiculous. Why do you continue to hang out with a guy as a friend when you know he does NOT want to be your friend?
 

Oh Karen, I was nodding in agreement through the whole recap!

--We all know TNs are often a vehicle for PSA's. Why is the drinking of Fer and FFFFF not addressed? Seems irresponsible to me.

--EWM is creepy, creepy, creepy! And Fer is SO DUMB!!!!!

--Though this was an Isa-free episode (I am actually grateful for that), I agree that she is a twit for continuing to allow Jorge to wine and dine her.


I am so glad Julia turned me on to Ricardo Margaleff. He really cracked me up yesterday. The guy playing Juancho (Diego Whatshisname) is pretty funny, too.

Even though there are still 97 episodes, I could live with the writers resolving the Willy/Lucia plotline. I wouldn't mind seeing them married and with a baby by the end of this. I REALLY hope reIcky doesn't get a hold of her.

Does anyone else hope that the three Casa Hogar ladies end up with NachoChichoMoncho?
 

Oh, and Vivi-Now that I've seen the episode: I have no idea how Lucia resisted either. My gawd Daniel Arenas floats my boat.
 

Thanks, Karen. Excellent job on a lackluster episode.

I agree that our boys could use an intervention re: alcohol (although I wasn't the original critic.) Zoe, too. The only one who's funny when she's tipsy is Hortensia, probably because she's usually so buttoned up. And she has a chauffeur, so we know she's not driving.
 

And yes, WHY can't we have at least ONE of the right couples together? That's not suspense; it's just annoying.
 

I agree, Blue Lass. We see the same thing on Abismo. We *should* be enjoying at least a Maru/Lucio pair up and a resolution to the Lola/Brau triangle. But noooo....

This must be the trend now.
 

Kidnapping your lady love is also quite the trend, but Lucia-Willy is more amusing than Elisa-Dam. At least so far...
 

Ni me hables de esos babosos.
 

Gracias, Karen.

Yes, the drinking does need to be addressed. FFFFF, especially. He is developing a serious problem. All three of our gummy-brained galáns should wear chastity belts with built-in breathalyzers, too. Fernando especially needs to visit the wizard and get a clue. How can he continue to let Manuela creep all over him?! He knows what she's up to!

I'll be a dissenting voice on Willy G's scheme. I do want them to end up together, but I don't like his tactics. He needs to respect Lucia more. Holding her hostage is NOT okay! I don't like that kind of controlling behavior. All the sweet talk in the world doesn't change the fact that he's still all about what he wants and he seems to see Lucia as his possession.
 

I realized my comments on Willy G sounded more crabby than I meant them to. I found those scenes very entertaining. They are both super funny and their little mannerisms toward each other and their comments are great, like when Lucia only agreed to eat "to deny you the satisfaction of seeing me starve to death", or the banter about the Vietnamese knot. I just don't think trapping someone is romantic. If he really wants to win her over, I think he should focus more on what she wants rather than how much HE wants her.
 

Julia- ITA. Willy has a lot of growing up to do. But the scenes were funny! :)
 

I don't think you sound overly crabby, Julia. Willy may be cute, but I'd be seriously pithed at anyone who did that to me.

The Vietnamese Knot was funny, though.
 

I do agree too, Julia. While the scenes were funny, I did NOT like Lucia offering up her wrists to be bound like some well trained pet.
 

On the plus side, since she actually kissed him back I went ahead and crossed off "Love Shack" on my Bingo. Only three more squares for blackout!
 

And you didn't seem crabby to me either. And let's face it , sometimes these writers test our patience. Where else can we vent? I know I've talked to hubs about these shows and he doesn't get nearly enraged enough. Lol
 

For all his gigolo ways, Willy G doesn't seem to understand women very well. Here's one critical thing he needs to understand, especially being such a big, buff, Gaston kind of guy: women often tend to feel physically vulnerable. They know that even if they are fit and smart, they can still be easily overpowered by most men. Their safety and sense of security depends on men behaving decently. When Willy uses his size and strength to control Lucia, he taps into a lot of deep fears. Does he want her to think of him as one of those BAD guys who would deprive her of her security, bringing up the same emotions as thoughts of rapists and abusers and murderers?
 

Just got done watching Monday's episode. Thanks Karen, you definitely hit the highlights.

No, it is definitely not OK to kidnap a love interest and I wonder why it keeps happening on telenovelas and soap operas. It's hard to imagine a woman writing such a scene but I guess it must happen.

Julia, that is a good observation about Willy not really understanding women. I think Lucia is going to be a big education for him.


 

Lo del martes

--Ceci tried a half-assed intervention. He took all the booze except the bottle in the fridge. When FFFFF finally sobered up, Ceci offered him a beer. QTH?

--I FF>>ed through the Felipe on a ledge scenes on the assumption nothing important happened. Fill in for me if I assumed wrong.

--Lucia left the UR doin it wrong Love Shack and got to the Casa hogar in time to got the hospital with Padre Benito and Juanita. We discover that Juanita has preeclampsia and needs O negative blood. Mother and child are both in danger of dying.

--reIcky finds a picture of a disfigured monja on the internet and tells Horny it's Lucia.

--Horny has O negative blood. Beba calls and asks her to donate. Horny finds out Lucia is perfectly fine. Horny stops payment on the check. reIcky runs from the bank security and makes his escape on a bus. OH, and Horny the beech refuses to donate the blood and lies saying she has 0 positive. Could this come back to haunt her?

--Lucia prays and tells God she will forget Willy forever if Juanita and the baby live. They do; "a miracle" the doctor calls it. Lucia tells Willy things are over for realz and she will take her vows.

--Isa takes a long lunch with Jorrible. Fernando makes Suzy find her. Isa returns to work. Fer tells her he releases her from her debt and she can leave HS if she wants. She refuses. She owes him and she's going to pay it all back. For a split second Fer thinks to himself that Isa still cares, then realizes he's an ass.

--Manuela shows Fer the e-mail Sabrina was forced to send. Fer calls the cops and hopes this will put an end to everything.
 

Vocab

meterse en camisa de once varas: to get into deep trouble.

historical explanation
 

Julia you bring up a great point particularly Willy using his strength and size to dominate. I do not consider kidnapping romantic either and not trying to be sexist, I think scenarios like this and rape as punishment are written by men. And your comments weren't crabby at all.

Sylvia - ITA women weren't writing these scenes. I just keep hoping certain plots will just go away but they seem to keep coming back.
 

Hey guys,
I won't be around for the rest of the week. Sorry.

At some point this weekend I'm going to be contacting Melinama and asking her to remove from from posting priveleges. Again, sorry.


 

Don't worry, Sara; we'll soldier on. You okay?

An "eleven-yard blouse"? Would that be like...something that's hard to fight your way out of?
 

Sara I hope you are well and we'll miss you.

I have a lot of grading today but can post Thursday late.
 

No problema, Sara. Thanks for yesterday's summary, and for all your writing and posting!

I can summarize today's episode, if y'all want.

No, nothing happened in the FFFFF on the ledge scenes. All the freaked out bystanders thought he was suicidal, but he was just trying to climb over to the neighbor's balcony to get out and get booze since Cecilio had taken his stash and his keys. (Side note, though: did I understand right that Cecilio had locked him INTO the apartment? Can you really do that?! FIRE HAZARD! Not to mention any number of other emergencies in which a person might need to get out. You can't lock people into places!)

Ugh, not much happiness going around these days. Could our writers please get at least one couple together and happy? And stop making our supposed good guys so controlling and stupid?
 

Yes Julia we would appreciate you recapping today. And ITA w/the writers giving us a little more joy and less stupidity.
 

Lo del miércoles:

-There is a one-month time passage in this episode.

-Fer is a total idiot and tells Manuela all his personal problems, so she "helpfully" offers to be an intermediary between him and Isa so he won't have to see her. He stupidly agrees. Manny goes straight to Isa and Zoe and claims Fer asked her to do this and she lays down the law. Lots of laws.

She also continues worming her way into his family life, mostly by feeding the kids lots of pizza. I think she's fattening them up to eat.

Meanwhile, Fer is increasingly ill. Headaches, lethargy, bruises, nosebleed. Doris takes him to the hospital but then the next day we see him back at work, at the end.

-FFFFFlippy tries to drag Zoe back to his cave by promising to be her slave and never ever do anything that bugs her again. She isn't having it. He continues serenading her, bringing a crib for the baby, etc.

-Willy G hires Moncho at the gym (yay!) and they seem to be making a success of it. Willy seems happy and focused and resigned to not living happily ever after with Lucía.

-Lucía wants to open a daycare in the casa hogar. Sor Ernie thinks she should do that without being a nun. Sor P finally decides she doubts Lucía's committment and she kicks her out of the convent.

-Isa dates Jorrible, going so far as to dress up and smooch him. Blech uck ptooey. She makes a romantic dinner and this seems to be some turning point in their relationship and she's now totally into him or something (gag) but fortunately FFFFF keeps interrupting them and then Sarita and Zoe come home early.

-Marisol and Juancho continue to yearn for each other whilst dating their rebound trolls.
 

Thank you Julia. I actually enjoyed the little "time passes" montage. At least things moved forward even if they mostly stayed the same.

Right now Doris and Poncho are my favorite non-couple-who-should-be.

What's up with Fernando? Is Manuela poisoning him deliberately or with potions? Something ain't right with the dude.
 

Julia, thanks for the recap.

Fer is seriously ill and probably as a result of Manny's witchcraft. Is he so dense that he thinks all of these symptoms are normal? It would not surprise me a bit if she was doctoring the pizza and the girls are next to become ill.

Finally, they kick Luci out of the convent!

I had to FF the scenes with Isa and Jorrible.

I LOL when Horny was with the girls. Now I know why Manny turned out like she did.

Rosemary Primera

 

"Fattening them up to eat"! "Rebound trolls"! Jajaja! You can sure do a lot with a little!

I'll catch up this weekend (sigh)..

Blue Lass
 

I got up through the month-forward montage this morning. Liked the musical accompaniment, and the part where Moncho appeared to be trying to teach Willy how to count to five.
 

Sara- I also hope you're ok. No need to have yourself removed from posting priviledges, just come back to visit us when tyou can.

I was blown away by Fer's stupidy at 1) accepting Mani's "generous" offer to be a go-between with Isa, and 2) letting her continue to stalk him and his kids. I thought his symptoms looked like the dreaded tn leukemia, but maybe you guys are right that Mani is still poisoning him.

I would also like at least one happy couple (who are not Jorible and Isa). What happened to Beba and her cop?
 

Right, Beba and Idrogo, I love them!

The music during the montage was great. I was humming "Vete" all afternoon.
 

I liked the montage, too. At least Willy and Moncho seem to be doing well, and Beba and the casa hogar ladies are happy.

I'm curious to see how things shake out tonight. I was thinking Fer had leukemia, too, but it could be the poisoning. Of course it could also be from seeing Jorrible.

Horny is such a nasty piece of work. I find it hilarious that the more she tries to snag hot young Willy, the more OLD hag her style of dress. I mean really, her blouses and dark eye shadow and elderly-lady jewelry make her look so much older.
 

OH! I forgot to mention in the summary that ReIcky broke into Horny's house, mad because of the cancelled check, and he pulled a knife on her and demanded all her cash and jewelry. I hope those two do each other in. Maybe she should date HIM instead of Willy.
 

Lo del jueves:

- The gym is doing so well that Willy wants to hire more instructors. He suggests Chicho and Nacho. Moncho is skeptical.

- Manny is continuing to do her Sofía hoodoo on Fer by wearing her sister's perfume and dressing like her, which means covering up her cleavage. She also strokes Fer's head just like Sofía used to do. He seems to be going for it.

- Fer makes an appointment with a Dr., who is ordering a bunch of tests.

- Sor E. accuses Sor P. of riding Lucía's coattails to get publicity for the order from the Casa Hogar project. Sor P. says so what, big deal.

- Jorge gives ReIcky an assignment to steal a bunch of art from "a little town with no security," presumably Isa's home town.
 

- Jaibo continues to pocket Doris's money but won't let Mayela have any to go to the Dr.

- An insurance guy comes to the constructora to get them to sign up for their new policy, which covers natural disasters at a 6% increase. Manny tells Isa to find something cheaper.

- Sor P. sends Lucía back to live at the Casa Hogar and gets her a sidekick: Adelita, the nerdiest little nun ever.

- Fer symbolically gives Ceci his little black book, and Ceci finds his sister Paty in there, which is pretty funny.

- Manny is all bossy & rude to Minerva. She wants to get rid of her.
 

Thank you Blue Lass. Moncho and Willy were hilarious in their scenes together. Too bad there weren't more of them.

That nerdy little nun is clearly a knockout in disguise. I wonder what kind of trouble she is going to cause? Can't wait.

Manuela very obviously does not understand the business (or any business) at all. I've known managers who get very irritated when their employees obviously know so much more than they do, just like Manuela. Idiots. It was an interesting scene where she basically told Isa to dumb down a report because she couldn't understand it. I don't think a third grader could dumb something down enough for Manuela.
 

Ha ha, yes; didn't she even say "use smaller words"? Oy.

Cap'n, did you understand Moncho to say something at the beginning about Chicho and Nacho working somewhere as strippers? I couldn't tell if that was supposed to be a joke or not.
 

Yes, it did sound like Moncho said something like that. I rewound several times but I couldn't tell if he was joking or not either. After he said that Willy said they were "hijos de su mal dormir" whatever that means. More question marks! But before that Moncho wasn't sure they would be good instructors because Nacho is a "gelatinous" worker and Chicho doesn't have the face of an instructor. The whole exchange was very amusing.
 

Thanks much to the recappers for keeping up with this TN. I've only been able to watch in bits and pieces. But, some things are so repetitive, I suppose it doesn't matter LOL!

Fer is soooo stoopid. Doesn't Manny touching him give him the willies anymore? It did for a while. But now he is just going along with it like some little lamb?

Mayela is complaining about headache and some other things that makes me think she has preclampsia. If so, it could be a disastrous labor. Of course, they have already foreshadowed that by greedy Jaibo refusing that she see a doctor.
 

Blue Lass,

Thanks for the recap.

Fer really looks and sounds ill. He is probably hallucinating about Manny being Sophia. And being the idiot that she is, she is loving it.

Yes, she is an idiot even about business. How Fer can't see how inept she is, is beyond me.

Willy & Co. were funny as usual, they must be having a great time filming this TN.

Mayela didn't look too happy with Jaibo today. As much as I dislike her, I hope she doesn't die or worse lose the baby.

Doris really wants a baby and not just because of Fer. She and Poncho need to get married and have a very large family. They are really great together.

Rosemary Primera

 

Julia and Blue Lass thanks so much for your recaps. Julia loved the rebound trolls!

Yes Horny is a trip. I was glad that rIcky threatened her and I too hope they do each other in. Good call BL on Horny's clothing accentuating her age. We can definitely see when Manny gets her delusions from.

I too am disappointed in Fer. Perhaps it is the almost deadly illness that has taken his brain away. Why is Manny pawing on him OK now? Did she say something about her being Sofia as in impersonating her and that's how could massage him like her sister?

Disappointed in Isa too. Her change in attitude toward Jorrible seems to be a plot device more than a real change of heart.

Yes the new nun will be a hottie perhaps Moncho will fall for her as we can't have him with Barf.

Vivi - I too miss Beba and her cop.

Sylvia - I think many people have had "those" kind of bosses. What a nightmare.

Audrey - good call on Mayela. Though I dislike her character, it pains me to her remain with such an abuser.
 

RP, I think you're right about Fer just being beaten down by illness -- he can't fight Manny off anymore, especially in the emotional state he's in as well.

Wasn't it adorable when Poncho told Doris not to worry, her baby would never lack for a father? That actor is doing a wonderful job of playing a goofball slowly getting serious. I love their scenes together.
 

I also love Poncho and Doris.

I watched my recording late last night, and Willy for sure said that Nacho and Chicho were in Zacatecas doing some stripper gig! Well, at least we know how they support themselves.
 

Thanks, Vivi! I hope they go somewhere with that. :D
 

Thanks, Blue Lass!

All this time I was wondering what Chicho and Nacho did to support themselves...now we know! Funny that Moncho doesn't want to hire them at the gym, though. I think they would make great instructors! Heck, they could teach stripper aerobics. I hear that's a thing.

Manuela is going to run the constructora into the ground if Fernando doesn't recover soon. I'm afraid she's going to totally screw up the insurance and leave them without coverage and cost the company a fortune when something happens. Speaking of which, we've never heard any fallout from the rebar thing. Yet. Like Isa said, she has no business running a constructora when she doesn't know the first thing about architecture or engineering, or even business. I hope Isa and everyone else keeps swamping her with information she can't understand to rub it in...then makes decisions without her.
 

Not a lot happened and we’re subjected to Knuckles :(

Lucia and our new nerdy nun, Adelita, go to live in the Casa Hogar. She meets Willy with Lucia and finds out she’s from the same town as Willy’s abuelo. Later Willy visits the casa and chats with Adelita. When he leaves (because of the arrival of Lucia), he gives Adelita a flower and Lucia gets jealous. Clueless Willy gets a clue and realizes that Lucia is jealous.

Minnie visits with Sarita and I get the uncomfortable feeling that Manny may try to kill her. The girls get mad at Minnie when they find out she visited Sarita. Boo!

Juancho seems to be realizing Barf is a witch. Lala wants to celebrate Barf’s upcoming birthday but its too nacho for Barf. She throws a fit, leaves the house and stumbles upon Knuckles. I think she will take a liking to him because he’s rich. The union of the rebound trolls would be a great thing. By the end of the episode, they suck face.

Cecilio advises F5 to send love letters to Zoe. My prediction is that Cecilio will write these letters and Zoe will fall for F5. Later it will be revealed who the real writer is.

Fer continues to allow Manny to be a parasite. Beba tries to talk to Manny about the “situation” at work with Isa. Jorge and Isa come by the house while Beba and Manny are talking as Beba was trying to make peace with the two women. Surprise, Isa and Manny fight about Fer and Jorrible gets jealous about Fer, which ends his date with Isa (yeah)
 

Thanks, Karen. Barf and Knuckles? May they have joy of each other...
 

Yay. I'm so glad Barf and Knuckles the Rebound Trolls have found their way together. Now may they please do their canoodling offscreen. Juancho definitely seems to be getting fed up with Barf, not that he was ever that into her. I think the only thing stopping him from dumping her completely, for good, is the family awkwardness. Which is why you should never date your family members. Well, that and a thousand bigger reasons.

Evil Witch Manny definitely muttered that Mine had signed her death warrant. I hope she's as incompetent at killing her as she is at most everything else. I'm waiting for Sabrina to pop back up and get some revenge.

Karen, I think you're right about Cecilio and the love notes. Although Zoe would be kind of a fool if she believed FFFFF really wrote anything literate and meaningful himself.

Thanks for summarizing!
 

Thanks so much Karen for the recap. ITA that Knuckles and Barf belong together. Hope they run off into the sunset, and over a cliff, together.

New Nun Novice (NNN) is the exact opposite of Lucia. The older nuns were always talking about how disobedient Lucia is, which is why they kept passing her over for vow taking. But this nun is so obedient and subservient, that she is incapable of forming her own thoughts and opinions. Hopefully, this will open Lucia's eyes that this is NOT what she wants for herself, and hopefully Lucia will rub off on NNN. Willy already pointed out that NNN is pretty good looking. I laughed when Moncho got a worried look and said that Willy has a fixation on nuns. LOL!

Someone the other day asked Felipe how he would feel if Zoe had slept with HIS friend. He admitted he couldn't forgive that. That was definitely anvil baiting, but it's so not the same thing since Zoe and Cecelio met and slept with each other way before she met Felipe. But I have a feeling Felipe won't see it that way. I don't care anyway, because I'm pulling for Cecelio and Zoe to end up together. I don't care if Zoe and Flippy are expecting a baby. That whole situation is pretty incestuous anyway, so why not?!

Speaking of incest, Julia, you said it perfectly: "Which is why you should never date your family members. Well, that and a thousand bigger reasons." Amen!

 

I hope we'll find out today what's wrong with Fernando. He needs a cure fast! On Friday when Manny was acting all Sofia-like to him, I thought he gave her a look like he knew exactly what she was up to, but being so ill he just didn't have the energy to get rid of her. If he has leukemia, will Lucia need to donate bone marrow?
 

Blue Lass/Julia/Vivi - yes now that our Rebound Trolls are together let them dance off into the sunset and over a cliff (good one Vivi).

Julia - I think you are right about Sabrina returning and having revenge but with so many episodes left I fear that may not be for a long time. I don't think I can stomach too much more of EWM winning and her offing Minnie would be too much. Hopefully Fer does have something (not serious) which accounts for his low resistance to that witch.

Vivi - ITA regarding Zoe and Cecelio. While it would be messy, F5 will come around and be happy not to have to be a real parent.
 

Sabrina could come back looking totally different, too, which opens up some possibilities. (I don't think she's Sor Adelita, though.)
 

I doubt Sabrina could tolerate nun life even to get revenge, so I don't think she's Adelita, either. It would be sort of fun if she returned looking completely different.
 

That would be a fun plot twist!
 

Maybe she could come back looking like Mani and really mess with Mani's mind pretneding to be the twin sister she murdered!
 

Vivi, I like the way you think!
 

Or maybe she could come back as Lucía and get her into all kinds of trouble...after all, she hasn't messed with HER yet.
 

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