Friday, March 30, 2018

Por Amar Sin Ley, 3/30/18 Chapter 19 Viernes: Discussion Page

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Papa a Toda Madre #52 3.30.18: Surprises for Everyone (Including the Viewers)

Or Odd Couples and Odder Revenge Schemes

From his house, Rodrigo listens as Fabian threatens Mauricio outside. Fabian tell Mauricio that he can ruin his life in plenty of ways, so he should be careful. Fabian then gets in the car and drives away as Mauricio considers this.

Over dinner, Neron tells Flor about how great Mr. Robledo is and how much of a gentleman he is. Flor thinks he sounds great and is happy that he may have a friend; she then asks him about his tests from the doctor and Neron admits that he hasn’t picked up the results, but he is feeling great. To show her he is, he stands up and does a half turn before sitting down again. Flor smiles but then remembers Pablo’s situation and hopes that everything turns on fine, even if Jorge finds him. Neron thinks it will and then tells Flor all the ways Roberto and he are similar. Flor wonders if Neron “likes” Roberto but Neron laughs off her comment and wonders about Pablo and Lili.
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Por Amar Sin Ley, 3/29/18 Chapter 18: TBD



SJW Juan wins big against Roberto by having the bartender of the club testify the pearl necklace was used to pay off the accuser, Sra. Berenstein's, daughter's huge bar bill.  The charges against the housekeeper, Silvia, are dropped and she refuses to charge the daughter for setting up false charges against her.  

Silvia proudly and loudly praises and blesses Juanito and then Mama de Juanito starts cheering from the back bench till the judge tells her to shut it.  And thus, we note that Juanito comes by it honestly.....Sra. Berenstein is told to pay a fine and compensate Silvia for time lost and pain and/or suffering equal to the amount in wages earned over fifteen years the woman has worked for her.  She hisses at Roberto that it's unfair and he reminds her it's the least and best to hope for considering her daughter's crime of  falsely  claiming crimes against another person.

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Thursday, March 29, 2018

Papa a Toda Madre #51 3.29.18: Can You Date Your Ex-Bro's Possible Sister Without It Getting Awkward?

Or Everyone Gets Hit In the Face

Mauricio thinks Fabian is sick because he used a child to further his plans. Fabian thought Mauricio hated kids, so it shouldn’t have been a big deal. Mauricio wants to know if Maria is actually dead or if Fabian made that up to, but Fabian confirms she’s dead and buried. Mauricio doesn’t believe him, as he’s lied to much and went alone with Juan Perez to Maria’s burial, but Fabian confirms the body he claimed was Maria’s and he only did it because Mauricio won’t let sleeping dogs lie. Mauricio can’t believe Fabian would’ve left Maria unclaimed, like a dog, but Fabian retorts that Mauricio didn’t even go to his own father’s burial, so he shouldn’t talk. Mauricio claims that that is another story and thinks Noel would die again if he saw what his son has become.

Renee is looking at the photo she found of all the old Logatoys employees when Rafael walks in and asks if she’s going to keep it. Renee is going to ask Mauricio but she’s sure he will let her keep it as a reminder of the way things were. After a moment, Renee realizes that her mother is looking at someone else, not the camera, and Rafael points at Noel and assumes she’s looking at this man. Renee doesn’t know him, only of him, and remembers when Angel told her that Catalina was very secretive, and he wished she loved him but never did. Renee suddenly gasps and tells Rafael that she knows who her father may be, but she can’t confirm that he is because she has no proof. Rafael offers to help, as the sooner she gets her house, the sooner they can buy it, but Renee is wary as the legal battle for her house may be tougher than she thought. She also reveals that she may have a brother and wonders how she will find out the truth. Rafael thinks her talk with Angel went well, so she could talk to her brother too, but Renee wonders if her search is worth it because she may find out things she never expected or wanted to find out.
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TELEMUNDO Y MÁS (#2): José José, Al otro lado del muro, Enemigo íntimo, y más: Week of March 26, 2018

TELEMUNDO WEEKEND EDITION (continuación)

Here's Page 2 for the week.  The current telenovelas are as follows (all times are Eastern Daylight Time):

• 8-9PM—José José, el príncipe de la canción
• 9-10PM—Al otro lado del muro
• 10-11PM—Enemigo íntimo

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Wednesday, March 28, 2018

Por Amar Sin Ley, 3/28/18 Chapter 17 Miercoles: Hell Hath No Fury


Chapter 17: Hell Hath No Fury

Previously on D.F. Law:
  • Alejandra thanked Ricardo for his assistance with Virginia's case. She talked about how great it was that the judge understood the reason for Virginia marrying Fermín. They left the courthouse.
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Papá a toda madre Wednesday 3/28/18 Capítulo 50: The Truth Hits the Fan--OR--Young Love on the Run

FYI: We will be at the midpoint of the novela tomorrow night. Back to the story!

Toño and Verónica go into the other room to argue. Toño thought he was going to be sleeping on the couch not that he had to be out of the house. She says that they had decided to talk about this calmly. He doesn't know how to do that. The only thing missing is for her to ask him for a divorce. She is not asking for a divorce but she just can't continue living with him in the same house as if nothing is wrong. She offers to take the kids with her. He informs her that he is going to look for a place nearby and that he is going back to work. Verónica isn't happy. Toño explains he is going to have to pay his rent and expenses. He then tells her he may be getting a job again at Logatoys. She sarcastically says that is just wonderful. When they come back out to the kids, they are all asleep on the sofa. Verónica tells Toño that they can continue talking again tomorrow but when all is said and done, she wants him out in a week. They move the kids to their beds.

It is the middle of the night. Anifer is awake and decides to have a conversation with her Barbie. She brings Barbie up to date on Renée and Mauricio being novios, manufacturing and designing toys, etc. Eventhough her mother is in heaven, she has a family with her dad, Renée and Barbie.
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Por Amar Sin Ley, 3/27/18 Chapter 16: Of Trials, Tribulations and Preparations

It is just another glorious and victorious day in court for our accomplished attorneys.

Victoria wins her case against the disingenuous, dastardly Dario when Rocio's housekeeper claims she saw Ro with a black eye.  Dario defames his ownse'f when he admits he went to anger management therapy.  (Viewerville's take is maybe a few therapists need to be held responsible for declaring people cured when they're anything but--however that's a topic for another day.)  Vicki uses a declaration of bruises and fear from Ro's dinner guest and a passionate plea that somebody has to speak for her dead friend in winning her case against Ro's rotten-to-the-core killer spouse.  Oh, and los abuelos get custody of the kids.

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Tuesday, March 27, 2018

Papa a Toda Madre #49 3.27.18: Coming Together and Falling Apart

Or You Never Know What You Have Until You're Losing it

At Jorge’s, Kika goes around the room and asks all his children if anyone told him about her visit the other day. They all shake their heads and Kika realizes that, unless Jorge has superpowers, he has hidden a camera in his house to keep an eye on them. She smiles and tells the children that it’s time to find out where it’s hidden.

At Neron’s shop, Pablo tells Neron that he was fired from his job at the school, but he went back to thank the director, who gave him some money to help him out, and has decided to leave for the border immediately. Neron warns him to be cautious but Pablo is decided to leave at once. Neron then asks if he is going to leave Lili and Pablo confirms he will because he came to Mexico to cross the border, so he can find his father, and nothing else. Just then, Roberto, Flor’s potential future suitor, comes in and chides Neron for selling him tires that are completely deflated. Neron assures him that he will fix that right away and sends Pablo to do it as he asks Roberto to sit down so they can talk some more. To himself, Neron assures himself that Pablo is the best man to replace him.

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Monday, March 26, 2018

Por Amar Sin Ley, 3/26/18 Chapter 15 Lunes: Sexo, Pudor, y Gritos



Chapter 15: Sexo, Pudor, y Gritos
Previously on D.F. Law:
  • Milena left the poison pill envelope with the maid and walked away. Note that she didn't tell the maid to give it to Isabel personally, sure in the knowledge that Isabel would freak out.
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Papá a Toda Madre, Episode 48, 3/26/2018: Children Say the Darndest Things OR A Golden Egg for R&R


Fabián asks Mau if he is feeling well; so Mau responds that it must be because he is excited about starting a new phase in the factory…with him. Mau then asks Fabián if he remembers how long they have been friends, so Fabián laughs and responds “All our lives; ever since we were born!” Mau replies, “Exactly. In fact, until Anifer showed up, I considered you my only living family.” When Fabián wonders why Mau is so nostalgic and asking so many questions, Mau responds that he doesn’t know; he has just realized that he trusts Fabián with so many favors…sometimes he thinks he takes advantage of him…like asking him to take care of Maria’s burial.  (A tiny little tinker bell jingles in Fabián’s serpentine brain.) After Mau thanks him, Fabián assures him that there is no need to thank him…he has always done it with all his heart (as he concentrates really hard to not allow his tail to rattle).
At Veronica’s house, Toño is cleaning the table when Veronica arrives and asks if the kids have gone to bed. When Toño responds that it has been quite some time since they went to bed, Veronica comments that she hardly saw them in the morning; so she is going to go peek in on them. Toño tells her not to wake them because it took him quite some time to get them to sleep; furthermore, he wants her to sit down so they can talk about that infamous “break” she wants to take. Veronica points out that he was the first to mention taking a break…and right now she is exhausted and isn’t up to anything, but she does want to tell him that she will be leaving on a job-related trip during the week-end…and she wants HER kids to go with her. As Toño emphasizes that they haven’t even started the “break’ and she is already saying “HER kids,” (Clue A, Tono) Tania listens through the door as they continue to argue, then walks back to her bed as Veronica tells Toño that she does not want to continue arguing and walks away.
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TELEMUNDO Y MÁS (#1): José José, Al otro lado del muro, Enemigo íntimo, y más: Week of March 26, 2018

Welcome to Page #1 (Monday edition) of the Telemundo y Más page, issued twice a week: Mondays and Thursdays at 8:00 PM.

Here are the current telenovelas (all times are Eastern Daylight Time):

• 8-9PM—José José, el príncipe de la canción
• 9-10PM—Al otro lado del muro
• 10-11PM—Enemigo íntimo

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By common agreement, this group DOES NOT discuss previews, trailers, or any other plot information not found in a current or past episode of the current production. Spoilers WILL be removed by the admin. This includes reference to earlier productions of the story, and even the original novel. Thanks for your cooperation!

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Friday, March 23, 2018

Weekend Discussion, 3/23/18: Por Amar Sin Ley or L.A. Law's Twin


Por Amar Sin Ley or L.A. Law's Twin

Back when we were playing Televisa Remake games (click the label “weekend” below for list) we didn't think of L.A. Law as a possibility. Obviously someone did because this series certainly feels like it. Most of the emsemble-cast characters have counterparts, there is a parade of clients some of whom are symbolic of social issues, and the relationships between the lawyers and their love interests will be the most active element of the series. Let's dive in:

Managing Partners

Alonso Vega and Leland MacKenzie are both mature men who are paternal figures. Both are law professors, virtually live at the firm, and take a personal interest in the lives of their staff.
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Por Amar Sin Ley, 3/22/18 Chapter 14: Gustavo—Front and Center and It’s Not Even His Birthday

Anita here. I will be your occasional Court Reporter (and I get the run of the office, too). To start you off, here is a reprise of each attorney's specialty along with his, her, or their cases.
Part 3 is now up.

Vega & Associates, Mexico City’s Most Prestigious Law Firm

Vega invites you to follow them on CaraLibro, or better still, follow their cases (and personal lives), as featured on CarayCaray at 10 pm EDT.

Our Mission: “We will take on anything life can throw at you, as long as you are not guilty, not an abuser, nor a defrauder. In the event we decide you are guilty, an abuser or a defrauder, we will throw the book at you*.”
(*Err, disculpe, we will ask the judge to throw the book at you.)

Attorneys, clients and cases so far:
The Opposition
Carlos – first – mainly criminal cases
Saúl Morales (David Ostrosky) is a prestigious businessman who comes to Carlos for help with a sexual harassment accusation. Carlos can’t continue with his case after he’s jailed for suspicion of murder and Sr. Morales doesn’t want Alan to take over. He takes his case to Vega, but Leo won’t take it because of contradictions in his statements and decides Morales is lying. Morales threatens Leo and all of Vega.

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Thursday, March 22, 2018

Papa A Toda Madre #47: If You Can't Trust Your "Bro", Who Can You Trust?

Or A Snake in the Grass is Revealed

Rodrigo walks into Neron’s shop and demands to know why Pablo hid the fact that he was in Mexico illegally. Pablo looks worried and very contrite and Neron tries to argue that Pablo is a very good man, but Rodrigo laughs at the fact that they tried to trick him earlier, by acting like a mute and then pretending the funny words Pablo used were form another part of Mexico. Either way, he warns them that Jorge is looking into the deportation process for illegals and he assumed it was because of him. Neron begs Rodrigo to reconsider, and not arrest Pablo, but Rodrigo makes it clear that he’s not there to arrest him because he’s a hard-working man, not a criminal. Neron and Pablo thank him and they all shake hands with a smile. Rodrigo leaves them with one final warning: if someone else reports Pablo, there will be nothing he could do for him them. Pablo and Neron look even more worried.

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TELEMUNDO Y MÁS (#2): José José, Al otro lado del muro, Enemigo íntimo, & más: Week of March 19, 2018

TELEMUNDO WEEKEND EDITION (continuación)

Here's Page 2 for the week.  The current evening telenovelas are as follows (all times are Eastern Daylight Time):

• 8-9PM—José José, el príncipe de la canción
• 9-10PM—Al otro lado del muro
• 10-11PM—Enemigo íntimo

Everyone is welcome to join in the conversation.  Since discussions of all the Telemundo novelas share the same page, please remember to put the name of the telenovela you're referring to at the top of your post, so readers can easily find the conversations they're looking for.

By common agreement, this group DOES NOT discuss previews, trailers, or any other plot information not found in a current or past episode of the current production. Spoilers WILL be removed by the admin. This includes reference to earlier productions of the story, and even the original novel. Thanks for your cooperation!

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Wednesday, March 21, 2018

Por Amar Sin Ley, 3/21/18 Chapter 13 Miercoles: Den of Thieves


Chapter 13: Den of Thieves

Previously on D.F. Law:
  • Ricardo and Alejandra talked briefly about Virginia's case and she asked if he would like to dine with her to celebrate how good working together will be. She is noticeably happier and more comfortable now that she knows he is divorced.
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Papá a toda madre Wednesday 3/21/18 Capítulo 46: Kika's Long Goodbye--OR--How Do You Keep Them Down on the Farm After They've Seen Paris?

We pick up with Fabián still in the car with Falcón. The long and the short of it: Fabián tells Falcón he has made one too many mistakes so he needs to disappear. Falcón thinks that his disappearance will just cause more suspicions and people will think he is a fraud. Fabián informs him that he will take care of things from here on out even Mauricio's penchant for investigating. Falcón was right about one thing though: he is an enormous old fraud.

Renée and Mauricio are all lovey dovey at his place. Will she? Won't she? Should she just go home? Maybe? After Mauricio checks on Anifer, they high-tail it to his bedroom.
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Por Amar Sin Ley, 3/20/18 Chapter 12: Of Confidence and Confidants


                             

Gustavo's familial "feasting" is interrupted by his extracurricular entanglement's phone call.  Gus exits to the kitchen to reprimand her for calling.

Next morning Roberto wakes up next to another female conquest who might be the gal friend from the office party--or not.  (I couldn't capture the small talk as he is getting dressed.)  She'll call him; he had a lovely rack roll and so did she.

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Tuesday, March 20, 2018

Papa a Toda Madre #45 3.20.18: An Evil Mastermind, A Passionate Kiss and a (Possible) Bun in the Oven

Or When Plots Twists Aren't Really Plot "Twists"

Tono confesses that Yolanda kissed him on the lips, much to Veronica’s surprise, and Veronica can’t believe she did such a thing. Tono tries to defend himself, saying that the kiss was small and meant nothing, but Veronica is furious. She can’t believe he kissed someone else and talks about honesty. Tono shrugs and reiterates that it’s not his fault, as Yolanda fell in love with him (because he’s so full of charm) but Veronica doesn’t want to see him right now or be touched by him. She demands he leave her alone and Tono runs upstairs, after chiding himself for confessing anything in the first place.

Flor cleans the house and calls Neron to tell him her plans with Renee that night and the fact that Rafael ill take care of Milady. Neron prefers to close the shop and go take care of Milady but Flor asks him not to worry. She does notice that he sounds tired but Neron tells her it’s nothing and asks her to come home early. She promises and hangs up.
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Monday, March 19, 2018

Por Amar Sin Ley, 3/19/18 Chapter 11 Lunes: Girlfriends


Chapter 11: Girlfriends

Previously on D.F. Law:

  • Victoria had finished greeting Alejandra when Leticia came in and accused Alejandra of taking what was rightfully hers. Olivia pointed out to Leticia that Alonso was satisfied with her work only to get the response that “This is because everything is always done your way.”
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Papá a Toda Madre, Episode 44, 3/19/2018: A Fairy Tale For Ani, a Dream Come True for Renée, and a Nightmare for Vero


At Jorge’s house, Lilí pulls Pablo away from their lesson? Meanwhile, at Logatoys, Jorge is in his office trying to organize himself, but stops to check on the kids using the camera app on his phone. Pablo wonders if someone might see them, but Lilí urges him on. After Lilí responds that no one is there, she kisses as Jorge watches them on the phone and freaks out. (Viewerville freaks out that the camera walks around to get the perfect angle for whatever Peeping Dad wants to see.)
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TELEMUNDO Y MÁS (#1): José José, Al otro lado del muro, Enemigo íntimo, & más: Week of March 19, 2018

Welcome to Page #1 (Monday edition) of the Telemundo y Más page, issued twice a week: Mondays and Thursdays at 8:00 PM.

Here are the current evening telenovelas (all times are Eastern Daylight Time):

• 8-9PM—José José, el príncipe de la canción
• 9-10PM—Al otro lado del muro
• 10-11PM—Enemigo íntimo

As was announced last week, from now on, CarayCaray's Telemundo pages will list only the evening telenovelas.  For morning listings, please consult the Telemundo website, or check the listings on Zap2It .

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By common agreement, this group DOES NOT discuss previews, trailers, or any other plot information not found in a current or past episode of the current production. Spoilers WILL be removed by the admin. This includes reference to earlier productions of the story, and even the original novel. Thanks for your cooperation!

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Saturday, March 17, 2018

Papa a Toda Madre, Capítulo 43, Friday March 16, 2018; Detective work, for the home and office!




Mau tells Kika if she helps him, he will forgive everything she did.

Renée tries to explain to Anifer that that her father never meant to hurt her, he only tried to protect her. He is also still learning to be a father. Anifer is still angry and not really taking anything in. She tells Renée she is tired and wants to go to sleep.

Kika asks her fans to not boycott Logatoys. She told them she asked them this at a moment of anger and not thinking about it.
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Friday, March 16, 2018

Por Amar Sin Ley, 3/16/18 Chapter 10 Viernes: Death, Taxes, and Envy



Chapter 10: Death, Taxes, and Envy

Olivia's voice: Previously on D.F. Law:
  • Alan met with his banker about getting major assets of his firm transferred into what he said were Carlos' personal accounts. He told the man that he was looking out for Carlos' interests. The banker seemed to recognize that there were some serious issues in play and wondered whether this was entirely above board. Nonetheless, he shook hands with Alan and left the meeting.
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Por Amar Sin Ley, 3/15/18 Chapter 9: Dreaded Ends and Making New Friends

Carlos explains his strategy of exculpation,aka, acquittal, to his dimmer witted cousin, Alan: if Carolos gets Leonardo, who everyone knows won't defend anyone he deems to be lying, and who comes from his major legal competition, as his criminal defense attorney [penalista] then his personal and professional reputation suddenly becomes golden again--and Leo should win that cases.

Victoria gives her official statement to the equivalent of the Prosecuting Attorney's Office.  She  assures her that many times she told her dead friend, Rocio, to tell the police about her husband's physical and mental abuse.  That's why she filed an anonymous complaint against Dario (Mario?).  She warned to be careful and that he'd end up killing her some day and now.....well Vicki's determined it was that brute--who has suddenly, conveniently gone missing--and she's going to put him behind bars if it's the last thing she ever does!

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Thursday, March 15, 2018

Papa a Toda Madre #42 3.15.18: Is Anyone Really Who They Say They Are?

Or Who's Playing Who?

Mauricio and Renee run over to pick up Anifer from Veronica but Anifer declares that she no longer loves him and it’s his fault her mother died. Renee tells her that Mauricio is not at fault but Anifer states that they are both liars and she doesn’t want to go home with them because they are lies. She prefers to go to Neron’s house and Neron and Flor agree but Mauricio reminds her that he just wanted to protect her and begs her to come back home. Renee agrees and begs Anifer as well, but Jorge suggests they drag her back home, but Veronica shakes her head. Tono agrees with Jorge but Neron can’t as he would leave these things to Carmelita and now Flor. Jorge suggests Mauricio give Anifer a good whipping, as discipline is necessary, but Veronica disagrees. Tono wonders why all the lies in the first place and Jorge reiterates that they punish Anifer for escaping. Flor shuts everyone up then and tells Anifer that she can stay with them, at least for today, since it’s been a rough day. Neron agrees and Anifer looks at Mauricio, quietly, extremely disappointed in his actions.

In her suite, Kika tells Charytin about the fact that her revenge is finally complete, but she feels that she paid too high a price because she would feel guilty if something happens to Anifer. Charytin suggests she move on and come back to Miami but Kika must find out if Anifer is safe.

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TELEMUNDO Y MÁS (#2): José José, Al otro lado del muro, Enemigo íntimo, y más: Week of March 12, 2018

TELEMUNDO WEEKEND EDITION (continuación)

Here's Page 2 for the week.  The current telenovelas are as follows (all times are Eastern Daylight Time):

• 10:30AM-12PM—Marido en alquiler*
• 1-2PM—Las reglas del juego*
• 8-9PM—José José, el príncipe de la canción
• 9-10PM—Al otro lado del muro
• 10-11PM—Enemigo íntimo

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*PLEASE NOTE: In the interest of saving the sanity of your page moderators, this is the last week we are posting the MORNING schedule for Telemundo. The evening novelas starting at 8PM will be listed as usual. If you need to figure out what's on in the mornings, please consult the Telemundo website (http://www.telemundo.com/guia-de-programacion), or you can check listings on (https://tvlistings.zap2it.com/?aid=gapzap)

By common agreement, this group DOES NOT discuss previews, trailers, or any other plot information not found in a current or past episode of the current production. Spoilers WILL be removed by the admin. This includes reference to earlier productions of the story, and even the original novel. Thanks for your cooperation!

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Wednesday, March 14, 2018

Por Amar Sin Ley, 3/14/18 Chapter 8 Miercoles: The 400 Blows


Chapter 8: The 400 Blows

Another Elena-free episode:
  • Repeat of Carmen commenting positively about Ana and Leonardo announcing their engagement. Ricardo looks somewhere between apprehensive and guilty. He commented that Leonardo was the most honest man he had ever known and surely Leo found that quality in Ana, who made a show of saying she had made a lot of mistakes in her life but hopefully will be what Leonardo deserved. Ricardo looked like he was restraining himself.
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Papá a toda madre Wednesday 3/14/18 Capítulo 41: Anifer On the Run--OR-- Another Day, Another PSA

Toño is in Mauricio’s office telling him that they have at least one month to get the money together. Mauricio is sick of the beating and trolling he is taking on the social networks from Kika’s fans who idolize her. Toño tells him to just let it go because it will be long forgotten in 48 hours but Mauricio can’t believe that. The image of Logatoys could be affected and his image, too. Toño suggests that they let it go for today at least and have some peace. Toño has to go home to get a few things done before the kids come home. Mauricio says he has to go get Anifer. Fabián walks in as Toño leaves. Fabián immediately wants to know what Mauricio’s neighbor is doing there.

Nerón is talking to his doctor and finds out that he has an enlarged prostate gland which is relatively common in men of his age. Nerón wants to know what that means. Well, the doctor informs him that it could cause him some problems: urinary tract infections, bladder or kidney damage. The doctor tells him that after the age of forty all men should have their prostate checked each year. Nerón explains that he has always felt well and he knows all about those prostrate exams . . . The doctor wants to stay on top of the situation. He wants Nerón to notice if he has problems urinating, if he has to urinate a lot at night, or if he sees any small drops of blood in his urine. Nerón asks the doctor if he is about to die. The doctor says no but he does need to check him out in a couple of days. Nerón asks if it is that kind of checkup. The doctor says yes, it is that kind of checkup. Nerón is bothered and depressed at the thought . . .
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Por Amar Sin Ley, 3/13/18 Chapter 7: Of Sacrifices and Second Chances



Daniel/a meets with Ricardo to give up the awarded right to paternal rights.  (Guess he's having second thoughts about the upset he'll cause everybody.)

Carlos accepts that Alejandra is going to accept the offer from his competition--as it's a magnificent opportunity for her (Viewerville agrees it is).  But we all know that deep down it's gotta grate the hell out of him!  He does get his digs in on Ric.  He tells her that she's a thousand times better attorney than Ric and soon she'll realize it. She's surprised and pleased at Carlos's support for her decision.   "--I will always support you because I love you!" (Viewerville wonders how long he can keep up that smile before his face cracks and the snake hisses out from behind.)

Leo Returns to work and the secretaries are thrilled along with Olivia who forgets her place, forcing Victoria to pull her off him.  Leo tells the group and the office manager that the welcome back party she's planning will be a great opportunity for the firm to meet his girlfriend--it's a very serious relationship.

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Tuesday, March 13, 2018

Papa a Toda Madre #40 3.13.2018: A Lie, Even a Merciful One, Is Still a Lie

Or Everybody Hurts Just Like Everybody Lies

Mauricio arrives at the restaurant and demands to know what Fabian is doing there with Kika. Kika curses Fabian, who asks Mauricio to sit down and reveals that something did happen between him and Kika while advising that Mauricio not get back with her or accept her help, under any circumstances. Mauricio thinks Fabian did him a favor but Kika insists the what happened between her and Fabian was before they were formally going out. Either way, Mauricio is not getting back with her and wants her out of Logatoys too. Kika can’t fathom that Mauricio is interested in Renee and wanted to be like Santa Claus, paying for her tuition. Mauricio realizes that Kika told Renee about her master’s program, but he will wrong that right as well. He tells Fabian that they will talk later and leaves without saying goodbye to Kika because he must take care of Anifer. Kika curses Fabian again but Fabian doesn’t know who got off worse, her, Mauricio, or him. Kika doesn’t believe his fake contriteness and storms off.
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Monday, March 12, 2018

Por Amar Sin Ley, 3/12/18 Chapter 6 Lunes: Proposals, Propositions, and Delusions


Chapter 6: Proposals, Propositions, and Delusions

Bullet points per request:
  • Repeat of Nuria's father getting in Ricardo's face about the case, accusing him of ruining his grandson's life, etc, saying that Daniela is mentally ill. [If he keeps on like this he'll have a stroke.]
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Papá a Toda Madre, Episode 39, 3/12/2018: Schemes Go Awry Even for Mauri OR Kika’s Claws Get Clipped



[Previously: At Mau’s house, Renée asks if Mau has figured out who may have provoked the mishap at Logatoys, but as in most things, Mau still has no clue. When she asks how things are going with the payment for her mastery program,] Mau responds with a question, “Why are you asking?”; then he tells her things are going well and reminds her that she has a class she needs to get to. Renée doesn’t know whether to be flattered or bothered that Mau knows her schedule and reminds him that they still have the conversation regarding her scholarship pending. After she leaves, Mau makes a face as he wonders how he is going to deal with the scholarship.
At Juarez School, Sami looks at his wrapped hand as he gets a message from the Blue Shark: he has two options for his next challenge—he can either walk the guardrail of a bridge or hurt someone he hates.
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TELEMUNDO Y MÁS (#1): José José, Al otro lado del muro, Enemigo íntimo, y más: Week of March 12, 2018

Welcome to Page #1 (Monday edition) of the Telemundo y Más page, issued twice a week: Mondays and Thursdays at 8:00 PM.

Here are the current telenovelas (all times are Eastern Daylight Time):

• 10:30AM-12PM—Marido en alquiler*
• 1-2PM—Las reglas del juego*
• 8-9PM—José José, el príncipe de la canción
• 9-10PM—Al otro lado del muro
• 10-11PM—Enemigo íntimo



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Saturday, March 10, 2018

Por Amar Sin Ley, 3/9/18 Chapter 5 Viernes: Winners, Losers, and Cheaters



Chapter 5: Winners, Losers, and Cheaters

Bullet points for the weekend discussion; some items combined.
  • Repeat of Carlos' beatdown which didn't – but should have – result in brain damage.
  • Leonardo and Ricardo talked about Elena and Anna. Leonardo appears to have been a lifetime workaholic and not had much experience with women and relationships. He's thinking about getting married.  [Will he ever be in for a shock.]
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Papa a Toda Madre, capítulo 38, Friday March 9, 2018; Inquiring minds want to know!


Yesterday’s episode ended with Kika’s monetary investment in Logatoys. It must have been a very large investment as she says “You are not going to get rid of me that easily.” Mau says to her, “Look Kika, I don’t want to make you angry, but what are you doing here?” Kika says, “I want to invest in your business. Just because we ended our relationship, doesn’t mean we can’t be business partners.” Jorge says that the money is already in the bank, but Mau says he doesn’t want it and says goodbye to Kika. He says he feels like a freed condor flying through the air. Kika says the money is there, it was automatically deposited and now she is a full fledged partner with Logatoys. Falcon wants to extend his hand and say “welcome to Logatoys”, but Mau pushes him back. Jorge wants to know if they are still a couple. Mau says NO and Kika says YES.

At the dance club yesterday, Nerón falls to the floor in an apparent heart attack. Flor screams for help and wants a doctor. One guy says he is studying veterinary medicine, but that’s not good enough for Flor. She says he is not a mule or a horse. Another woman says she can do CPR and mouth to mouth, but Flor won’t allow it. She asks for someone to call an ambulance. She cries and asks Nerón not to leave her and Milady.

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Thursday, March 08, 2018

Papa a Toda Madre #37 2.8.18: The Price is Right...But For Who?

Or Sometimes Look a Gift Horse in the Mouth

Mauricio tells Kika that it’s best they break off everything between them because he’s not sure of what he feels and confesses that he feels something but for Renee. Kika can’t believe he’s trying to breakup with her, after all she’s done for him, but Mauricio reminds her that he rejected her investment at Logatoys and she proposed to him and he only accepted out of respect. Kika is shocked at his decision but Mauricio is done talking and tells her he has to go and get Anifer. Kika is left screaming and talking to herself that he can’t trade her for a maid. She then runs after him as everyone in the hospital stares.

Later, Mauricio wheels Anifer inside their home and asks her to be careful lest she break another leg. He then tells Anifer that he has to go into Logatoys and Renee offers to take care of Anifer in the meantime. She then states that she will fine a place nearby when she moves and Anifer wonders when she decided this. Mauricio explains that Renee thought of leaving but things changed and no she’s not leaving and he’s not getting married and isn’t Kiki’s boyfriend either. Anifer is ecstatic, as she hated the way Kika grabbed her cheek, and Renee tells Mauricio she will talk to him later and goes to the kitchen. Inside the kitchen, Renee jumps up and down at all the excellent news.
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Por Amar Sin Ley, 3/8/18 Chapter 4 Jueves: Life Tips, Swaying Hips, and Guilt Trips


Chapter 4: Life Tips, Swaying Hips, and Guilt Trips

After closing his apartment door Ricardo looked at the garter he picked up in the parking lot prior to the wedding that didn't happen. He remembered Jaime introducing him to Alejandra. He then put the garter in a book-shaped box that he kept on his nightstand.
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TELEMUNDO Y MÁS (#2): José José, Al otro lado del muro, Enemigo íntimo, & más: Week of March 5, 2018

TELEMUNDO WEEKEND EDITION (continuación)

Here's Page 2 for the week.  The current telenovelas are as follows (all times are Eastern Standard Time--until next week, when Daylight Savings Time starts):

• 10:30AM-12PM—Marido en alquiler
• 1-2PM—Las reglas del juego
• 8-9PM—José José, el príncipe de la canción
• 9-10PM—Al otro lado del muro
• 10-11PM—Enemigo íntimo

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Por Amar Sin Ley, 3/7/18 Chapter 3: All For A Day's Pay


At the jailhouse: Alejandra cries buckets full at the realization that Charismatic Carlos, now taking residence in the clinker for murder most foul, was really not the man for her.  Why me??????  She'll get over it eventually says Daddy.  Throw yourself into your work -what impassions you.  Daddy gives her a difficult and intriguing case to distract her.  She's betrayed and wants little to do with Carlos but it pulled at her heartstrings to see him behind bars, she admits.   Mama later agrees passionate distracting tasks are the best medicine getting over big disappointments in life.

Speaking of intriguing cases: Ricardo Bustamante meets his mystery client.  It is a he-turned-she and Ric does all he can to be non-judgmental when hearing the would-be client's request for paternity rights of a child born prior to Daniel/Daniela's sex change.

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Wednesday, March 07, 2018

Papá a toda madre Wednesday 3/7/18 Capítulo 36: The Cheese Stands Alone--OR--Mauricio Comes to His Senses

We catch up with Nerón who is having a hard time getting Milady to go to sleep. He says she doesn’t know him anymore. Flor tells him he should just go to sleep himself or he will not have slept in 24 hours. In his sweaty sweats, Nerón is concerned that they haven’t had any sex in a while. She is clearly not in the mood. He keeps on pushing the issue because he says he is always ready. She finally tells him she has an issue with him being all sweaty from the gym and stinky. She tells him to go take a shower. She will make him some food. He ends up sniffing his own armpit and is taken aback by the stench.

At Jorge’s, the family has arrived at home from the Pubic Ministry/Police Station. It is silent until Jorge tells Valentina and Lili to go make something to eat. Samuel is told to go up to his room and to do his homework so as not to fall behind. Jorge sits down at the head of the table. Only Baldo is left. He wants to know if Jorge is going to talk to him. Baldo says he just wanted to get sent back to Tijuana. Since he is getting the cold treatment from Jorge, he decides to go to his room and Jorge can let him know when it is time to eat. Jorge speaks up and tells Baldo if he pulls another stupid stunt like he did today he will be sending him to a military boarding school. Baldo asks him why he doesn’t just send him to juvenile court whenever he feels like it. He goes to his room.
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Por Amar Sin Ley, 3/6/18 Chapter 2: I Accuse, or, Irreconcilable Differences



A car full of detectives have come to the church to announce that Carlos is being detained for questioning for the murder of Patricia The Hooker.  The cops won't wait for the ceremony to end or discuss the situation outside the building with the bride's attorney papa.  Alejandra interrogates Carlos immediately as it is evident he knows who she was.  He simply says it's a mistake and he'll clear it up as the cops drag him unceremoniously from the church with the entire group of legal eagles trailing concernedly behind.

Ali decides she's going to the police station to handle things herself, although Mama has asked her to stay.  "--Carlos has plenty of lawyers helping him already!"   (That's an understatement.)

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Tuesday, March 06, 2018

Papa a Toda Madre #35 3.6.18: You Can Call Me "Papa"

Or Mauricio is Finally a "Father"

In Miami, Kika has decided the best way to keep Mauricio at her side (possibly) is with an ultimatum: stay in Miami with her or risk losing her large investment for Logatoys; the choice is his. Mauricio looks shocked.


At Neron’s, Flor is also shocked to see Neron has dyed his hair jet black. Neron smiles wide and Flor looks slightly happy to see this change.



She warns him not to get any on his skin because it won’t come off and Neron nods. He then asks her to make him breakfast because he must go see about a gym membership so that he can get back in tip top shape. Flor can’t hide her slightly amused, but loving smile, as she goes to the kitchen.
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Monday, March 05, 2018

Por Amar Sin Ley, 3/5/18 Chapter 1 Lunes: Gran Estreno


Chapter 1: Marriage is Cursed

Ricardo Bustamante stepped off the elevator and entered the offices of Vega and Associates. He was a tall, attractive man in his forties with dark hair and dressed in a dark suit and tie as though he were ready for court, a sensible precaution in his profession. He greeted the office staff and was met by his secretary, a mature woman named Carmen who asked if he wished to go over the agenda. He answered in the affirmative. They began discussing this on the way to his office only to encounter a couple having an argument that ended with the woman throwing a glass of water in the man's face. Victoria Escalante, who seemed to be the woman's lawyer, went over to stop this situation from getting any worse.
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Papá a Toda Madre, Episode 34, 3/5/2018: Mau is Turning Into a Father and It Feels GOOD...But Not to Kika!

Alt Title: Honor Thy Children or Be Dishonored


[Previously: In Miami, Arístides tells Mau that when he arrived from Venezuela many years ago, he had nothing…not even a dollar. He only had his wife who was pregnant with Charitín and Kika who was still very small. At that time, they were his only treasure. Mau understands perfectly well because he is also a father. Arístides argues that Mau knows nothing; he was born in a golden crib…Arístides was not! Everything Arístides has, he earned through his work and much effort…thanks to the strength that his family gave him. It was not easy because he encountered many enemies. When Mau supposes that he is referring to his father, Mau also asks Arístides to explain why he is blaming Bosco for the fraud that sent Arístides to jail, but Arístides remains silent.] (Red Flag #1)
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TELEMUNDO Y MÁS (#1): José José, Al otro lado del muro, Enemigo íntimo, & más: Week of March 5, 2018

Welcome to Page #1 (Monday edition) of the Telemundo y Más page, issued twice a week: Mondays and Thursdays at 8:00 PM.

Here are the current telenovelas (all times are Eastern Standard Time):

• 10:30AM-12PM—Marido en alquiler
• 1-2PM—Las reglas del juego
• 8-9PM—José José, el príncipe de la canción
• 9-10PM—Al otro lado del muro
• 10-11PM—Enemigo íntimo

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Saturday, March 03, 2018

Por Amar Sin Ley – Dramatis Personae Starts Monday 3/5/18 10PM EST



I didn't change anything except grammar errors and pronoun errors that occur in Google Translate. However, I have some doubts regarding descriptions such as that of characters' ages, which I left as given. If this information is accurate we will get a few people being cast against type so this could be very interesting.


RICARDO BUSTAMANTE (David Zepeda)
Attractive lawyer specialized in family law. In his forties, handsome, kind, noble, sincere and hardworking. Partner of the law firm Vega. He is constantly guided by the laws of ethics and love and, in general, seeks to help others instead of thinking about himself. He has an excellent relationship with his ex-wife's children, Elena; and although they are not his blood sons, he raised them from very young, which is why he sees them as his own. Ricardo finds in Alejandra an admirable woman and with whom he shares the same ideals, so that soon the attraction he feels for her becomes love.
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Papa a Toda Madre, Capítulo 33, Friday, March 2, 2018; Meet the Parents!


We come back to the conversation from the previous episode on how Anfier wants to do a presentation and the subject will be her mother. Mauricio looks a little taken back. Renée wants to know why Mauricio has that look on his face. She tells him that after all, didn’t he want Anifer to see him as a friend and not a father? “I did everything I could for her but truthfully, I didn’t realize that she didn’t see me as her father.”

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Caer En Tentacion #102 Part 2, 3/2/18 (El Gran, Gran Final): Raquel had No Idea


Note: Backflashes are in blue

We begin at the end Carolina is shot and Damian screams “No, no!!” he runs to her “Carolina no my love wake up resist my love” He picks her up and carries her “help, please help”. At the station Vicente keeps telling his side of the story. “I finally get out of the ravine and run to Damian” “what did you do to my sister? what did you do?” Damian says “she’s dead” Damian sobs and Vicente goes into a rage filled vicious attack. “I grabbed the shovel and beat Damian on the head” “I was so mad I don’t know how I was strong enough to drag Carol but I took her to bury her because I wanted to protect her” Damian stares at him with despise of the man growing exponentially by the second “because of you Carolina is dead” {no truer statement has ever been made in this TN}. Damian tries to land a punch but due to his current condition can’t get close enough. Vicente is taken to his cage. Antonio turns to Damian and asks “who are you protecting? who was in the third car?”, Damian yells “no one”. He turns to look at Mia but says nothing, he too is taken away.
Cynthia calls Godoy and explains that she needs help with Fede because he is in danger. She’s been trying to call him but he does not answer his cell phone. Godoy can’t help her know because he has his hands full with murder suspects, sends another officer to get Raquel’s statement.
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Friday, March 02, 2018

Caer En Tentacion #102 Part 1, 3/1/18 (El Gran Final): MOUTHS WIDE SHUT


Santiago continues to grill Damian for a confession.  There's a knock at the door.  Dam isn't giving in or giving up.  Raquel lets Godoy into the living room.  Godoy gets testy since Santi won't shut the eff up and let him "do his job."  (Where's her attorney, big guy?)  Godoy needs to know where Raq was the night of the accident.  Dam, sullen and bleary-eyed, suddenly opens up and says Vicente was beating up Carolina. Supposedly Dam killed Caro while trying to save her from a savage beating.  (Oops.)Raq is mum and frightened.  She tells Godoy that Dam is not in his right mind, not thinking clearly.  Godoy disagrees.  Raq tells him to keep quiet; he doesn't need to say an incriminating word!!  Dam ignores her and admits to the crime.  Godoy calls it in to Antonio and they all wait for the paddy wagon to take him in.

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Thursday, March 01, 2018

Papa a Toda Madre #32 3.1.18: Be Careful What You Wish For

Or When Getting Everything You Wanted is Never How You Expected

Mauricio tries to explain to Renee why he is marrying Kika, but Renee doesn’t care anymore. She announces that she is leaving his house, much to Mauricio’s shock.

At home, Samuel tries to smash his fingers on his closet door but can’t bring himself to do it. He asks his online “friends” if they can have him do something else but they tell him to do what they asked or there will be consequences. After a few failed attempts, he decides to do it but is interrupted by Valentina, who calls him down to eat. He sighs and closes his computer before running downstairs.

Veronica and Tono sit at their dining room and go over the grocery list. Tono suggests they go to the supermarket tomorrow but Veronica shakes her head and he tells her that he forgot who wins the big bucks. Veronica apologizes again for finding the truck without asking for his input but Tono decides to let it go. They discuss what groceries they should buy, as the children’s needs and tastes are evolving, as Veronica receives a text from work. She asks Tono for 20 minutes, so she can answer, and he makes her promise it won’t be longer before going upstairs for a jacket.
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TELEMUNDO Y MÁS (#2): José José, Al otro lado del muro, Enemigo íntimo, y más: Week of February 26, 2018

TELEMUNDO WEEKEND EDITION (continuación)

Here's Page 2 for the week.  The current telenovelas are as follows (all times are Eastern Standard Time):

• 10:30AM-12PM—Marido en alquiler
• 1-2PM—Las reglas del juego
• 8-9PM—José José, el príncipe de la canción
• 9-10PM—Al otro lado del muro
• 10-11PM—Enemigo íntimo

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Corazon que miente index

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Caer en Tentacion #101, 2/28/18: Everyone hates Damian

Part 2 is up, enjoy!

Hi my patio peeps, this is my last recap of what has been an incredible production. The acting and writing has been fantastic but let's be honest, this has been really dark and because it was so well done we can't even really be snarky, I think we are all going to need some tequila at the end of this.

This is the hardest recap I've ever had to do, there's so much going on and I hope to do it justice, if I miss anything or get anything wrong please correct me and feel free to add it in the comments section! I'm to recap the things that happened in the past and work my way to the present, its the only way that I can keep everything together.

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