Saturday, March 31, 2007

Zorro-Friday, March 30, 2007: We see a another shade of grey on Fernando Sanchez de Moncada

Well after a mini hiatus from posting (although I have been lurking) it’s my turn at the plate.

FF the tail end of Marina. I can’t stand this novela. I am convinced it was planned with the use of darts and all possible plot lines/story lines and character ideas posted on a wall. Some poor peon was shooting darts at the possible combinations and the writers said that works for me let’s go with it. They have included everything under the sun in this and there is no end in site, anyway I should shut up now, on with Zorro:

The show opens with Esme being tapped on the shoulder by Olmos? Esme is impactada and to tell you the truth so am I. That wasn’t what I expected but okay. Olmos tells her they have to go, not much time. Esme starts asking him why is he there but Olmos tells her he knows she has to find her mom but there’s no time to explain how he knows this just follow him.

Diego and MP are talking along that path he found her. MP is silent about what happened with FS. MP doesn’t want to talk about it but Diego is worried about her. They used to talk and share stuff. MP tells him it’s been her fault with her all her work at the nunnery and being soon to be Mother Superior he’s probably missed her. MP brings up the miscommunication between him and Esme (she calls it problems I call it miscommunication) that he must feel awful. Diego goes on about how he let her into his heart and she hurt him, yadda yadda. MP asks Diego to understand she did it as a sacrifice for love and MP understand she did the same thing. Diego asks it she refers to FS and that he never understand their breakup. Okay this is delving into personal territory, I never had this close a relationship with my aunts.

FS enters the church looking for Pade Tomas’ help. Padre Tomas demands to know how far FS is going to go, its not enough that he kidnapped MP, that he burned down huts, is he going to burn the church too? Padre Tomas says he can’t help him until MP is safe and sound and FS tells he did that already she is one her way home with one his men. Padre Tomas doubts his being honest but FS gives his word. Hmm, is his word really worth a lot? I mean he kidnapped MP, burned huts and stuff everyone else don’t know. I guess it’s good to Padre Tomas because he believes him and says what can I do? FS goes into this discussion about how used to believe in God but seeing the massacre of his parents and that he and his sister witnessed made him doubt there is a God. This is a very famous question FS that everybody asks but to sum it up, there is evil in the world and God knows what he’s doing when bad stuff happens. Anyway, FS is visibly upset and wow he’s good. I mean he can sure show those shades of grey, I feel bad for the dude and what happened to him. Padre Tomas yells at him that what happened doesn’t give him the right to act cruelly to meet out justice for what happened. FS tells Padre Tomas that he changed when he met MP, she made him believe in love and kindness, etc. but then she broke up with him and buried him alive. Padre Tomas tells him she must have had reasons and then FS tells him what MP told him. FS says if he did kill Regina he’ll pay the consequences but he has to be sure. FS asks Padre Tomas to go into MP’s room and get the knife so he could see if it’s his knife and remember since it happened so long ago.

Diego and MP are still talking about her and MP. Well actually MP doesn’t want to talk about it, it’s in her past but Diego wants to know what happened because he’s positive it has to with the past between her and FS. Diego, respect her privacy please, I mean the truth is going to hurt you a lot more. MP says yes, her past has returned like a hurricane that’s going to barrel down everything she’s built. Diego wants to know, she can tell him.

Back at the prison, Esme is distrusting and I don’t blame her but at the same time just go Esme, no time for chit chat, leave before you get caught and ask questions later. Esme and Olmos are arguing, follow me, Esme’s like now, I don’t trust you you were in this plot to lock up my mom, etc. They are arguing when are interrupted by one of the guards who wants to know what’s going on. Esme is opening credit impactada.

Cue Amor Gitano

Back to the church and PT tells FS so what you are telling me is that you want me to go to MP’s room and steal that knife that is the only proof of your culpability. FS says well if you say it like that of course it sounds like a bad idea, just kidding. FS actually says please I only want to look at it and then you can return it and she won’t know. Padre Tomas says he won’t give him the knife without MP’s permission. They go and on with this, you can find a reason I need it, please, I have to know about this crime I can’t remember. Okay not for nothing but I don’t think I would forget a massacre of an Indian tribe I don’t care how long ago it was. Padre Tomas tells him it was him, every other day there were dead Indians and FS says other people did it too, it wasn’t just me. Yes FS and if other people were jumping over bridges would you do it too. FS says it was the only to colonize the land and Padre Tomas tells him yes and to take everything from them. FS gets on his knees and begs PT for help, he is willing to accept his crimes, the ball is in PT’s court that he admits his crime and leave MP alone.

Back to MP and Diego, MP tells Diego FS was a diffent man, elegent, gentleman, he was sweet and kind. Diego seems surprised sounds like a different man. MP says he was but FS hide a dark side to him that she didn’t know existed and tells him how killed Indian women and children to colonize the lands. MP was very hurt by this, she idolized him but after she knew the truth she couldn’t marry him. Diego tells her FS must really love her if he won’t let her go and will stop her from becoming a nun. MP tells Diego that she has tried to explain to FS to forget her and explain why they can’t see each other (well this is a half truth) but she knows FS will stop at nothing from letting her become a nun, but she promises that will not deter her. Diego thinks this is very brave of her but he wants to know the truth, does she still love FS.

Olmos pays the guard some hush hush money to lead them out of the prison. Esme is surprised that the guard and Olmos know each other. The guard pockets the money and then worries about the task reminding Olmos that Esme is wife of Monty and he won’t risk his life for so little. Olmos gives guard more money and he agrees to help them out. Esme says that money should serve to take care of the woman imprisoned and feed her properly. The guard leads them out.

Back to Diego and MP. MP is silent and Diego asks her if she still loves FS because he knows what its like to love someone knowing its impossible. He goes on about him and Esme and how he can’t stop loving her. MP tells Diego that she still loves FS like the first day. They both understand what each other is feeling. MP says Diego to be strong but she is willing to go against her feelings and has chosen the path of God and will fulfill her destiny. (I don’t know but I think being in love with FS sort of disqualifies her from being a nun or no, I don’t know about this stuff) Diego says he hopes he can fulfil his destiny but it’s very difficult. MP gives Diego a hug and she feels like a weights been lifted. Diego says he’s missed her too and MP reminds Diego to be strong difficult times are head but she will always be there.

The guard is leading Olmos and Esme out and he is complaining that they have to hurry because they get caught they can’t count on his help, he’s risking too much already. Olmos tells him shut up already he has enough money to live like a king for some time. Apparently there was a lot of time wasted with Esme’s distrust and the exchanging of money and this little chat that who should enter but Monty and two guards. Monty demands to know what are his lovely wife and FS’s accountant and right hand man doing in his prison, cue commercial.

Back to the jail where Monty demands to know where has Esme been all this time. He was informed she gave the guards the slip which was very bad of her. Olmos covers for her absence and says he brought her to the jail to discuss money and contract. Pretty lame excuse if you ask me but hey weirder things have happened. Monty then asks guard what he’s doing there. Aguirre says it was his lunch break and he was on his way to the lunchroom when he found Esme and Olmos he questioned them and found everything okay. He salutes and asks permission to leave. Olmos then brings Piza into the mix saying he knew about the meeting and Esme tlls him she was feeling sick and went to get some air when Olmos came for her, what is it a sin? I can’t help but smile, Esme never ceases to amaze me. I think she might just break her mom out of jail on her own. Monty says no, in fact it’s a good idea to discuss her fortune, but why did the conversation take so long. Esme basically said well I am just a dumb blonde and studied only six semesters at a prestigious school, wait that’s Alicia’s line, from LFMB, well the six semesters part anyway. Well Esme pretty much says the same thing. I am just a woman who knows nothing about accounting and Olmos had to explain the contract. Monty I guess to test her asks her opinion. She says with the exception of a few details, I’ll sign it whenever, I am going home.

In the streets is Tobi clearing the path for the fencing master who is seated in a chair being carried by some people. What an idiot Tobi is. I take it the fencing master doesn’t like being carried because he asks Tobi where is he taking him. Tobi says to the resident doctor/dentist/grave digger, actually Tobi says doctor, but I wanted to be clear where he was being taken. The fencing master doesn’t care just take away the pain. One of the carriers trips over a rock which results in the fencing master falling off the chair and doing a face plant. Man I am sure this guy wishes he never received the letter. Tobi gets angry at the carriers and they give up and leave. Tobi then offers money to whoever picks up FM and continues carrying him. Kinky Katalina who is there is upset at Tobi (what else is new) for wasting money. FM is howling in pain and gets put back in the chair and the trek continues.

In the “dentist’s” office, Agapito is yanking somebody’s tooth out and I mean yanking. His foot is on the guys lap to steady himself and the doc is using both hands on the wrench or whatever. OUCH! Praise God for modern medicine! Enter Tobias and FM. FM is freaking out but doc says not to worry, everything will be fine. Um yeah, I guess we can add chiropractor to our doc’s resume.

At the de la Vega’s. Dena’s teaching Yumi about how a Spanish lady should look at the dinner table. Hair brushed, nails nice and short and clean and easy on the accessories. Well I guess I don’t qualify my nails need a trim and my hair needs some work. Yumi basically says it’s the opposite of her people dinner is always a big affair, the more stuff the better. Dena says it doesn’t look right in Spanish customs. Dena tells Yumi the best accessory is the beauty of your youth. On to clothes, it must clean, no grease stains, dirt stains, etc. but don’t worry about that. Dena all of sudden notices Alej who was listening in. He tells Yumi that classes are going good, Dena is showing her lots of stuff. Dena says she is going to turn Yumi into a Spanish lady. After some worrying about Alej being out of bed they start making out in front of Yumi. Yumi gets a little green and leaves the room.

She goes into Regina’s room? and starts nosing around. She finds some shoes and tells herself she will be a Spanish lady. She promises to never to walk without shoes again.

MP is at the de la Vega’s with Diego. Alej and MP share a hug. Alej asks to know how she is doing and if FS tried anything. MP says no all FS wanted was explaination to talk with her. MP says she was on her way to the hacienda when Diego found her. Dolores comes out and is happy MP is fine. Dena then says she feels embarrassed by FS’s actions. MP says don’t worry about it they (FS & Dena) are different people. Dena is her friend and her brothers fiancée, she’s always cared about her and now even more that they will be family. MP & Dena hug.

The peon in charge of bringing MP home informs FS that she found Diego along the way and they were headed home. The peon then gives FS the Zorro threat note which FS already heard about. FS tells him, Prudencio to tell peasants not to leave, government will protect them. FS then asks Prudencio to deliver a note to the Cardinal, FS must speak with him. Prudencio questions why does he have to bring a note to Cardinal, FS is the governor, it’ll be better that he brought it. FS says don’t ask questions just do it.

Outside the prison, Esme finds Renzo. Esme informs him she made into prison but couldn’t draw the map. Esme asks to Renzo to follow her so they can talk privately.

MP thanks Bernardo for his concern. He signs some stuff again which I can’t understand. He puts his hands over his heart, maybe that he likes her? Diego excuses himself he and Bernardo have stuff to do. Dena also leaves to be with Esme. Alej tells Dena that if Esme needs anything don’t be afraid to ask. Diego feels uncomfortable and leaves.

Renzo and Esme are talking and Esme tells him that the guards watching SK are not that loyal to Monty so a map will not be needed after all, just money for their silence. Renzo says its risky Monty is very astute and her life can be in danger. Esme says he is the second person to warn her. Renzo says yes but that person doesn’t love you like I do. Renzo enough, you don’t have a chance. Esme changes the subject and says to inform Jonas that someone on the inside will help in the escape of her mom and real soon she will be free.

At the batcave, Diego is throwing himself a pity party while putting away the Zorro mask. Bernardo signs some stuff (talking and love?) Diego understands what he just signed and says nothing else to do we have to go our paths. Esme with Monty and me with MA and the only thing I have to worry about is my mission as Zorro. Don’t know if this will be easy with MA at your heels, hopefully it will be. Diego asks Bernardo to prepare his firearms, Bern signs what looks like he’s shaking salt which results in Diego responding with all of his firearms the more powerful the better but first he needs to talk to SAM (aka Garcia) for some information. Diego knows Esme told him not to do anything but he gave his word and he will help in the rescue of SK.

Alej tells MP that he was going to duel FS for her safety. MP tells Alej that she told FS that he wasn’t going to get her and the truth behind the breakup (minus killing Regina). Alej informs her that FS was wrong but it wasn’t unheard of. Alej tells MP about FS childhood and what the Indians did. MP says nothing justifies FS’s actions and is about to blurt out the Regina part but she holds back. MP says she rather keep that private and Alej says okay I won’t mention it but FS better leave you alone because he won’t permit any thing else against her.

Yumi is practicing walking in the brown yucky shoes she found, when she loses her footing and trips and pulls back the cover on a painting of Regina in her native garb.

Monty and Olmos are are at the prison talking about Esme’s review about the division of the money. Olmos says women are unpreditacble. Monty wants to know Esme’s conditions, does she want to keep the fortune. Olmos says she wants to keep some jewelry. Monty starts wondering what’s so valuable with jewelry, Esme would be a dangerous with economic power (oh boy how right you are, lest you forget she is heir to Spanish crown). Olmos says nothing, mindless bauble, just an impulse by a spoiled girl. Monty is a little shocked but he goes along with it, he can be an obliging hubby.

At the Moncada’s Dena is waiting for Esme in her room. Emse walks in and they rehash what happened at the prison. Dena gets all hysterical like, but she sounds sarcastic. Esme says she has to rescue her mom before her pregnancy starts showing. Dena then brings up Diego conversation and Esme says he still doubts Esme’s feelings. Esme says she wanted to tell him about little Diego but she couldn’t do it, she doesn’t want to ruin his life. Dena tells Esme she should rest all the emotion is not good for baby. Esme is all smiles and says that is the only thing that pushes her to go forward and she will defend him like a fiera against anybody. Dena says she suffered a lot for someone so young but Esme accepts it was her destiny to know love for a short while but Diego has to go with his destiny and her through hers. Dena tells Esme wants to help bust out SK but Esme says don’t worry she will be married to Alejandro and Dena can take care of Diego for her. Esme on the other hand will go to Spain with her mom.

Alej and Diego are having some wine discussing how Alej should remove Dena from FS house. Here I thought Diego wouldn’t touch alcohol again after what happened. Alej is thinking about marrying in a weeks time and maybe Diego and MA should marry at the same time, make it a double wedding. Diego says he couldn’t care less but he will talk to MA about it and we get another pity party. Alej tells Diego he is planning on constructing a house for him and MA on the hacienda, they have lots of enemies and all and they need to be united.

At the gypsy camp, Renzo runs in and says he just heard that Miguel’s body was turned over to them. They do a burial ritual that involves burning the body and Azusena says that Laiesha was told the truth about what happened to Miguel. Renzo goes to a sad Laiesha, at least I think she’s sad.

Olmos leaves the jail and informs a guard to keep on watch it’ll happen tonight.

At the nunnery, MP is with Cardinal and apologizes for what has happened recently. Cardinal says somebody should tell FS he isn’t God but MP says FS will change, she’s sure of it. Cardinal isn’t optimistic but he asks MP if she is named Mother Superior would be willing to lead convent despite pressures by FS. MP says yes, she’s strong enough and God will give her strength. Cardinal says she will make MP mother superior and all other nuns in training will be real nuns except Nutty. MP says fine just don’t kick her out of nunnery, she needs help and she will be under MP’s responsibility. Enter Prudencio with note from FS and that he needs to meet with FS immediately.

FM is brought back to Tobi’s house and he asks how it went. FM says it was torture and humiliating, being cared for by a saca muela (tooth/molar puller). Tobi says he’s sorry he has to go through this but he is positive he will feel better soon because KK will take good care of him. KK is impactada. Tobi then ask that FM be taken to bed. KK then yells at Tobi saying she doesn’t know who a FM acts the way he does. Tobi says its because he is sensible like me, whatever. KK says she will not take care of him If he wants FM to get better, he better find someone to clean him and bathe him. Tobi is confident that they will be rich once FM discovers Zorro identity.

Alej goes down into the basement and finds Yumi dressed like Regina hairdo and all. You know for somebody who doesn’t want to be compared to do a dead wife she didn’t hesitate to don her clothes and style her hair too.

MA runs into Esme at the house and MA asks how married life is treating her. MA says perfectly and how is your charade. MA answers the door for Diego and she is all smiles. Diego informs her that the wedding date has selected , in a week while Esme listens.
END OF EPISODE

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Excellent recap, Maricelis.
Very intriguing about Olmos' relationship with Esmeralda's mother.

The gypsies are Catholics, aren't they? What are they doing burning their dead? Very peculiar. Real Roma people have their own social customs involving purity but they bury their dead. Anyway, these are your carefree tambourine-banging Hollywood-type gypsies.

The officials of the church are pretty broad minded to not be concerned that the future Mother Superior of the convent spends so much time out of the dormitory alone with men.
 

Marycelis, this was a fabulous recapt! I rolled when I read your editorials! As usual, they are very entertaining.....

“Monty says no, in fact it’s a good idea to discuss her fortune, but why did the conversation take so long. Esme basically said well I am just a dumb blonde and studied only six semesters at a prestigious school, wait that’s Alicia’s line, from LFMB, well the six semesters part anyway.” This one made me nearly fall off my chair! I didn’t expect it. You caught me way off guard here.

Tobias and the FM scenes would be comical if they weren’t so dumb. Sheesh. Tobias is a real dunce.

Jean, I think you are right, that the gypsies are Catholics. I think, though, they mix it with a great deal of mysticism. Maybe that is why they burn their dead. Or, they wander so much that they burn their dead to take the ashes with them and not leave their dead buried where they will not visit again. This is pure speculation; I have no frame of reference at all for gypsy life!

Olmos get scarier by the minute. I sounded to me from Marycelis' recap that he is double-crossing Esme. I just can't trust the man.

Good point, Jean, about MP spending so much time with FS. It was unheard of in that era for a single woman to spend such time with a man, alone, let alone a religious type female.

Jeanne
 

Oops, typo in the first sentence, "recap." Not "recapt."

Jeanne
 

As far Olmos' relationship with SK, I would think FS told him in one of those conversation scenes that are never shown.

I hope Olmos doesn't betray Esme but I wouldn't put it past him. Maybe he tries something but Zorro saves the day?

Jeanne your theroy on gysies burning their dead makes sense but then again I don't know about this stuff.

As for MP, I guess because MP explained that she was kidnapped the officials didn't consider her at fault. What I think they won't like is if they find out she still loves FS. In another novela an unrequited love was enough to get the nun in training kicked out. MS said she can't be a nun while still thinking of worldly things or something like that and told her to resolve the issue.
 

As always, thanks so much for recapping. This was a terrific episode, even if Diego's shirt was on the whole time.
Marie from Mass
 

Mari - loved your comment about Alicia's 6 semesters & Esme. Esme is 10 times smarter than Alicia will ever be, school or not.

Olmos could be the vehicle for Esme and Diego to get back together. If he gets mad enough at MA, he'll sabotage her attempts to marry Diego.
 

I kinda agree anya I mean Olmos is showing signs of jealousy about the upcoming wedding. But I'm sure MA will placate him and promise him some feet licking or attention in exchange for helping her out.

I think anybody is smarter than Alicia, even Lucrecia the vole beats her in that department.

I am not sure about MA living at the de la Vega's or near there is a good thing. That would put her too close to the batcave and that whole Yumi thing, she'll use against Dena if she gets wind of it. What will make me happy is if Diego spends a lot of time as Zorro he won't have too much time together with MA.
 

Hey there =)

Just wanted to answer a few questions (hadn't read recaps in a while).

As to Anya's question, Diego's name of Tisha (Little Fox) was discussed while he and Esme were getting cozy in the tub.

Someone had asked about gender in Monty calling Pizarro his "mano derecha" (literally just means right hand, but in this case it means right hand man). Hand in Spanish is feminine, even though it ends in an "O."

Someone asked why Catalina was smiling when Diego rescued Esme from her wedding. In spite of being spoiled and bratty, Cata really is a helpless romantic at heart (she's really only helping MA because MA said she loved Diego and Cata still has some affection for the guy). In the first episode when they were "keeping company" they spoke of her impending marriage and she said something about him falling in love some day. I think seeing him all dashing and brave over a woman was kinda cool to her - even if it was over another gal.

As for the historical accuracies, it's kind of yes and no. The colonial sets were built to resemble the architecture of Mexico in the 1820s-1840s, the setting of most of the McCauley books. With Nueva Espana being a little behind the times, some 1790s cleavage was probably accurate. The story itself is historically inaccurate. Not only has there never been a bandit named Zorro (though many of his traits have been based on both real and fictional people) but Mexico declared its independence from Spain in September of 1820. The only Spanish soldiers there would have been in California where those who fought along with the Indians and Mestizos in the Insurgent army and were now part of Mexico's army. Still, one should never let facts get in the way of some good fiction. After all, there was never a Count Dracula, there is no evidence that the Man in the Iron Mask was related to the King of France, and the 300 Spartans who fought the Persians were far from alone. As long as the stories are good (and they don't pretend they are actually real lest they get yelled at on Oprah's show) we can all enjoy it for what it is and try to forgive the little inconsistencies (like Zorro reading the letter he told Bernardo he wanted nothing to do with and never took).

As for racial issues, believe it or not, not all Native Americans had the same skin color. Furthermore, many of them could have been mestizos (part White part Indian) and therefore not be as dark as we’d expect. If anything, it is the gypsies who are too light (their ancestors are supposed to be Hindu). Still, with all the traveling about, they've probably done a little mixing which has caused some of them to have lighter complexions and to pick up certain Catholic traditions (like praying to the Virgin Mary) while still following their traditions of burning their dead. Jews for Jesus pray to Jesus, but still follow many of their Jewish traditions, so the concept isn’t as weird as it sounds.

Finding actual full-blooded native Indians to cast would be a challenge indeed. Most Latin American countries are heavily populated with mestizos (Mexico is about 95% mestizo) but nobody knows what percentage of what tribe or European country any of them are. I know in my own family on my mom's side I have a first cousin so pale she could pass for Aryan, and another who's darker than most blacks I've ever met. Most Spaniards in that era were white (like Almudena) unless they had some gypsy blood (like Esmeralda) or Moorish blood (leftover from the crusades and the Moorish invasions) but most where quite pale. I think Jean was confused about Olmos saying Indians didn't trust whites being that they were all Hispanic. All Hispanic means is that their native country's tongue is Spanish.

As for Dolores being able to speak to the runaway slave, it really depends on where she spent her childhood. In those days most blacks in Latin America where in Islands like Cuba or Haiti and down in Brazil where they worked as slaves (or slave traders and overseers if they came from rich backgrounds) in plantations and only made it to other parts of America on their way somewhere else (like what’s now the US) or traveling with their masters. Perhaps Dolores came with someone who was trading with Alejandro and he (or Regina, or Maria Pia) decided to buy her from them and free her and hire her as the housekeeper. By this point in her life (she's at least old enough to have been Diego's wet nurse, guess he was still nursing at age four - ouch!) so it's been a while since she's had any contact with a language other than Spanish and there's no guarantee where she lived before was Guinea, or near anyone from there). Still, ya never know. Maybe she has some contacts in New Orleans.

Regarding Suplicios, I'm with FT and MP that she's probably not possessed, just mentally ill (doubt Eagle Feather can help with that, but maybe she can whip up some herbal version of Lithium or Haldol or whatever works on this version of schizophrenia). The reason they want to keep her in the convent is that they fear for her safety (and that of others!) without someone caring for her - esp during her episodes.

Esme's belief that Monty won't touch her if she's pregnant is probably from her own naivete. She probably figures Monty won't want to touch her knowing she's been with Diego and some men find sex with pregnant women gross (some find it kinky). What she doesn't know is that at certain point in a pregnancy (no idea which but I'll make sure to ask my doctor when I'm in a position to need to know) rough or even regular sex can induce premature labor and plain old miscarriage. I highly doubt Monty would be above this.

I too hope Diego gets over his pity party. It's not that he doesn't believe Esme's word about not shagging Monty, he just can't get over not getting what he's fought so hard for. Here's hoping Bernardo decides to go on his own and find out where MA got the stuff to spike Diego's drink. I also hope the judge still has the annulment papers (especially if they have Monty's signature) and maybe they can get her out of the icky marriage before anyone finds out she's in the family way - much harder to get out of it later...

Whew! That's my two cents on what's been going on with our heroes. Sorry to take up so much space! I do have one question as I don't read the other recaps, what is this Duelo whirlpool everyone speaks of? Is it an actual whirlpool in a novela or figurative one about villains getting their comeuppances (like Gasca in Alborada, won't go into details for those who just started watching)? Lemme know if y’all get a chance.

Take care, Margarita
 

wow Margarita that was a mouthful but thanx for the info.

The Duelo whirlpool exists in the novela Duelo de Pasiones. Those recappers and viewers (I don't watch it, just read recaps) can't wait for the villans to get caught in it and I think its fitting for any villan regardless of what novela he or she is in.
 

Excellent recap Marycelis!! I have been out of town visiting a friend in Denver and she didn't get Telemundo, the nerve! So far I haven't had a chance to watch Friday's episode, just got caught up on Thursday's this a.m.

Thanks everybody for your very interesting comments, and I really appreciated Margarita's well-thought out remarks. Even though the Duelo whirlpool "exists" in Sierra Escondida in Duelo de Pasiones, I think it could be a metaphor for the comeuppances of villans. Speaking of Alborada, I just finished watching the DVD. It was great, would that all villains receive the same sort of comeuppance that Gasca did! No more shall be said so as not to spoil it for those still watching or about to watch.

Thanks Marycelis!!
 

Great recap Mari. I love all of your comments, they make me laugh.

I think Olmos overheard Monty and FS talking about Sara Kali awhile back--was it when Monty told FS that he found out everything from SK? As for Olmos, I'm not sure what his motive is, but suspect it somehow involves him getting MA. I was suprised he was in the prison and so willing to help Esme.

I might be wrong, but I thought that Alejandro started to tell Maria Pia what happened with Fernando's parents and the Indians, but I don't think he actually got to tell the story because she stopped him first. So I don't think she knows how his parents were killed.

Margarita, thanks for clarifying the mano derecha. It is stuff like that which drives me crazy. My first instict is to forget the gender of the noun and make it a masculine adjective because the person I'm describing is male (HA! I typed mal first, and that is also fitting for Pizarro).
 

Sylvia--Also thanks for the advice about Alborada. I'm going to order it from Amazon and use Melinama's blog to fill in the blanks.
 

Hey Mari! Thank you!
 

Sylvia,

"Even though the Duelo whirlpool "exists" in Sierra Escondida in Duelo de Pasiones, I think it could be a metaphor for the comeuppances of villans." I think that is exactly right. We have come to use that as our metaphor for what we want to see happen to the villains.

Jeanne
 

Thanks everyone for the 411 on the Duelo whirlpool =) It sounds mighty powerful!

Cathy, you're right. MP interrupted Al when he was telling her about the experience FS and his family had with the Indians. My guess is that Almudena was too young to remember all the details. It's also possible she sees it as something that's better left in the past.

I has a thought regarding the fencing master. I think the fall, etc. is leading up to showing that he's gone senile. I also suspect (and this is purely a theory) that the student was not Diego, but Padre Tomas. The "background" section on the website said that Diego got most of his training from PT, and we've certainly gotten an idea of what he can do with a sword.

Must stop typing...must go to bed...dream of Christian Meier and Fernando Colunga giving me fencing lessons...
 

Margarita i love your theory as to the fencing master and his student being PT. I was actually thinking the same thing while watching Mondays episode, actually the thought that went through my mind was that he's blind but senile works.

Hope your dreams with FC & CM very were nice. I don't know if you ever saw La Tormenta (another CM novela) but you should check it out, an open sleeveless shirt (and sometimes no shirt) Christian working on the hacienda.
 

Good call, Margarita, on Padre Tom. Do you think the Padre taught Diego? That could be why he looks like the master's student.

Jeanne
 

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