Sunday, December 16, 2007

Pasion Friday December 14 - The wedding of the year

I noticed how attractive Susana Gonzalez looks in the opening credits, whichever outfit she is wearing when they show her. She doesn’t have any headbands on, no strange purple wigs, she just looks natural and hot. Why aren’t we seeing her that way on the show?

We see the scene again with Rita inviting Santiago over for dinner, there was indeed a mention of barbacoa. Interestingly enough, my wife and mother in law (in from Mexico for Christmas) are downstairs preparing some tacos de barbacoa RIGHT NOW. I am hungry.

Captain Ric gets ready to attack a couple ships. As mentioned before, when the targets see the pirates coming for them they freak out. The passengers go below, the sails go up, but it is all in vain I’m sure. Captain Ric will not be evaded. He even gets a forcedly casual pose set up on the prow of his ship, leaning back against one of the ropes, trying to look cool. I’m sure you ladies agree that he pulled it off, he looks cool.

Alberto has returned to Jorge’s place. His ass apparently hurts from the long trip as he grunts and groans a lot. He heads inside to find Jorge.

The pirates continue to chase their target ships. There are uniformed soldiers on them, I don’t know if they are military, private guard, or what, but they get ready to defend themselves.

The belly dancer that was previously in the plaza is now inside Don Jorge’s living room, along with her band (two guys wearing white turbans/hats who tap on drums), the men are greatly enjoying the show. Jorge asks where she came from and is told from the plaza and she will do anything. One guy finally figures out that if she’ll do anything, why is she just dancing? He pulls her down from the table to get a little friendlier. I’m not sure what this guy’s name is, he has a mustache. One other guy tries to horn in on her too. She moves around the room, getting groped. What a life. NOT. Alberto comes in and everyone turns their attention to him, except for one horny guy still all over the dancer. Alberto tells Jorge that he found ‘the guy.’ Jorge clears his throat and tells the dancer to wait for him in the other room, he’ll be there soon. Horny guy says “why?” and Jorge correctly answers that he is the owner of the house, so there. I’ve been waiting to make this comment about Jorge. He looks like Gary Oldman, but has tics and behaviors like a skinny Rodney Dangerfield. I keep waiting for him to talk about not getting any respect. Just the way he shifts his balance from one foot to the other, something about it reminds me of Rodney. Or at the very least he reminds me of someone trying extremely hard to be cool, even though everyone around him is kissing his butt. Maybe he knows they kiss his butt just because he is powerful, but he really wants them to like him instead. Like Michael Scott on The Office. Anyway, I digress. Jorge sends the wench to the other room to hear what Alberto has to say. All he says so far is that he thought his time had come, he made it through a terrible storm.

The pirates and the soldiers posture at each other. Finally Captain Ric orders the cannons to fire, the battle begins. Cannons and guns fire, people die. Captain Ric again orders someone to knick over the main mast. Someone does, and the pirates storm the other boat. One of the pirates yells to ‘kill everyone!’ Lots of fighting, Captain Ric gets right in the middle of it. Someone gets their head cut off and we see it roll away like a basketball. Mario takes a sword to the gut, things don’t look good. Captain Ric notices and his eyes bug out.

Alberto tells Jorge all about his meeting with Foreman. He tells Jorge that Foreman will get one third of the proceeds, Jorge thinks it’s too much. Did they show at the actual meeting what the agreement was? Is Alberto skimming?

The ship doctor is done working on Mario, who is blind drunk to dull the pain. Mario tells Ric that he can have his booty if he dies. Ric asks if there is any news of Lazaro, Mario says no but thinks it must be going well, he also thinks Lazaro is spending time with hookers too. Where did Lazaro go? I’m confused. Ric is grumpy that they didn’t get much money from the conquest. He’ll try to sell the boat they took over. He isn’t interested in forming a fleet. Mario says he wants to go to New Orleans after this run is over. That will get them thirsty again for piracy, Mario says if it is in your blood it never leaves. Ric doesn’t look so sure.

Weeks later –

Camila and Tim exit the church after getting married, along with Lisbeta and Francisca. Nobody looks happy, not even Tim, really. Camila looks nicer finally, but of course there is immediately crying. There is a party back at Tim’s house, complete with every man in attendance smoothing down their mustache. What’s up with that? Some very fat singer is lip-synching a tune. All the women are miserable, for their own reasons, and crying.

Mercedes’s servant (can’t remember his name) delivers the news to Mercedes that Tim and Camila got married. She isn’t please, of course. She knows that he got married to keep Ric’s money away from him. She rushes off to write Ric another letter.

On the beach, Ric finds Lazaro. I guess he took the other boat, he didn’t get much booty either. The boat that Lazaro attacked sank apparently, Ric tells him that he needs to realize that the boats are valuable. Perhaps Lazaro is lying again, like when he said he bought the kids at the slave market.

Foreman tells the group of pirates that the booty was weak, but they got a lot of prisoners that should bring good ransoms. Foreman still looks like Cary Elwes to me. They read over some rules from the ‘brotherhood of pirates’ or something like that, saying how much money or slaves they get for particular injuries. They drink a toast to the pirate brotherhood.

All the wedding guests finally leave after dark. Tim tells Camila to go to his room, they have to ‘talk.’ The other ladies wish her well and she goes. Tim tells Francisca and Lis that in the morning they are getting kicked out again. He will give them a pension and he reminds Lis that when he dies she’ll be rich. Liar. He goes to find Camila.

Tim tells Camila that she will be rich too, when he dies. This is his favorite story I guess. He says he wants a faithful wife, she has to sleep in his bed now. She starts whining and he tells her to stuff it. He says that having a son is one reason he married her, but then goes on to explain that he also wants to keep his inheritance away from his nephew. His daughter is in love with Ric and if Ric was a nice guy that would be fine, but he is a killer, so he wouldn’t want anything going to him through his daughter. Now it will all go to Camila. Camila is stunned at the news that his nephew is a pirate. They argue about what is fair to leave Lis, Tim says that’s his decision. He orders her into bed. She says she wants to go to her bed, Tim says no. She says she can’t be intimate with him. He is patient, but finally he tells her to shut up and get in bed. He tells her to just think about the money she’ll get when he’s dead. She can go home rich and find her old boyfriend. He pretty much falls asleep right away. He makes absolutely no move to try and have sex with her, she gets all weepy anyway.

The next morning Francisca and Lis leave the house. Camila asks for them at breakfast (she is wearing an 80s headband again), Tim says they wanted to go live with another relative and he agreed. Yeah right. Camila tries to steer the conversation back to his nephew the pirate. He says he doesn’t care about her family and she shouldn’t ask about his. She says that she would like to visit Francisca and Lis, he says “we’ll see.”

Ric and Mario return to the beach in Mexico where Santiago and his buddies had just been recently. Ric carries Mario to the shack, the other pirates carry lots of boxes ashore. Rick is reading the letter from Mercedes, it says his uncle married a Mexican woman. He says in the morning he’s going there to see what’s going on. Mario says to send Lazaro, suddenly Lazaro can do anything. If they only knew. Ric says no, he has to go himself. He says if he gets caught Mario can have his booty.

Camila rants about not being able to leave the house. Tim doesn’t want her to find Lis or Fran, and he also thinks she will just to try to escape. She tells him that she hopes he dies tonight. He laughs and walks away. She starts freaking out, thinking that she could be locked up here for 10 years or more.

Ascanio visits Mercedes’s house, he gives Epifanio (that’s his name!) the money for Francisca and Lis. Epifanio gives it to Francisca, who complains about Tim being cheap.

Alfredo walks through town, stopping to ogle a shirtless Vasco. He keeps walking and finds the girl who hangs out with Ursula. Alfredo tells her that he has been hearing rumors about Ursula and wants to know if Vasco is the guy. She starts to deny, so he grabs her arm and hurts her, the girl says yes but Ursula will kill her if she says anything. He says, ‘then don’t open your mouth’ and walks away. Phew. At least now we know why he took such a long look at Vasco. It wasn’t a ‘Felipe ogling a shirtless Luis’ in Alborada kind of moment.

Justo is counting money and Vasco comes in. Justo is missing money, he asks Vasco if he took it, Vasco admits to it. He says it was just one time and Justo yells at him. He has also heard about Ursula, Vasco says it isn’t his fault she’s a whore. Justo says Jorge will kill him if he finds out! Vasco sulks out the door. Justo says great, just what I needed.

Tim meets some ladies on the street, they ask why they never see his wife. He makes some excuse about her being sick.

The chisme gets back to Mercedes’s house, she discusses it with Lis and Francisca. They wonder if she is pregnant, and what that means. Lis mentions the paper guaranteeing her cut of the inheritance, Mercedes says that paper doesn’t matter. Finally Mercedes screams that Tim stole the money, Francisca defends Tim and says it was because Ric killed a woman. Mercedes has a complete freak out and starts screaming and crying, but I think really it isn’t about Ric, she wants the money.

Rick glowers at the ocean as he rides away from mexico.

Justo and Ofelia run into Jorge and Alberto on the street. Jorge asks about Santiago, Ofelia says he’s fine. After walking away, Alberto says Ofelia looks nice and asks Jorge “did you ever get some of that?” Jorge says yes, not a first night rights thing, before that. He ran into her one time and she couldn’t resist him. They see Ursula, Alberto says she’s so pretty, she isn’t looking for a husband? Jorge says no, not yet. I think Alberto wants a piece of Ursula pie.

Ursula goes into Justo’s store to shop. She gives secret looks to Vasco, who helps her with what she is shopping for. She wants him to come tonight, he says he can’t, she says he WILL. He doesn’t look thrilled about it. He gets a look from Rita, I guess everyone knows where he goes at night.

Ascanio is sweeping, wearing that ridiculous white wig. Was that common servant attire back then, or what? Camila comes outside, asking where Tim is. He directs her to the living room with a longing glance. I think he likes her. Camila stomps into the living room and says she wants a dog for company. She nags and Tim says fine. She starts to whine again, saying thanks for the money, but she really wants…. He cuts her off, enough already. He says be patient, in the end she’ll get her reward. Tim says he used to be happy until someone or other died. Then he wants to play chess. She actually sits there and pays attention to his chess lesson.

Ric arrives and greets Epifanio, who is glad to see him. In Mercedes’s room, Mercedes is sick in bed (maybe from her tantrum) and the other two ladies wear hideous sleeping caps. The caps are enormous and ugly. Anyway, Ric is there and Mercedes tells him the news about the wedding and all about the inheritance. Ric says whatever, he doesn’t need his uncle’s money. Mercedes says it isn’t Tim’s, it is his father’s! Lis tells Ric that the wife’s name is Camila, Ric starts breathing heavily. I don’t know if he is impactado or horny.

Monday – Ascanio, with bad 80s rock band hair, tells Camila to calm down about something, perhaps Tim died already! Also, Ric is apparently trying to break into Tim’s house to save her.

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I agree... the women would look much more attractive if they didn't have to wear those awful wigs. Susana is naturally beautiful & the wigs just takes away from that. I've tried to get into this show, especially for Colugna, but it's just not working for me. So far nothing has been able to take La Fea Mas Bella's place.
 

I'm always enjoying your recaps Chris.

The girl who was with Ursula is Lafónt's daughter Manuela. That's why he is so tender with her.

As for the look of Ric at the end IMO he is "impactado".

They just have told him that the bride is a "ramera" and that good old boy Tim bought her from the slave market the same day of his (Ric's) last visit. He asks for her name and they say him that her name is Camila.

Helen J.
 

Thanks Ferro. You have a great tone for this telenovela! You would think that the norms and rules of their world would make them much less whiny and tearful. Maybe it's just the bad hair making them grumpy.
 

Personally, the last thing I'd remind a woman that I'd just forcibly married is the fact that "when I'm dead" you'll be rich. (Gee, let's check that theory out, shall we?)

Some more nautical lore from the days of sail...

A ship that had the wind "behind" them, that is blowing toward the other ship, held the "weather guage". It meant that the ship could pretty much decide how to handle the encounter (fight or flee). Most ships traveled faster in the direction the wind was blowing.

Square-rigged ships (with square sails that were mounted perpendicular to the ships axis) had a much harder time sailing "into the wind" and would have to zig-zag back and forth with a very low speed-of-advance.

Sloop-rigged ships (sails mounted in line with the ship's axis)could "point" more into the wind and could make shorter "zig-zag" legs which meant a faster speed-of-advance.
 

Thanks, Ferro! Interesting take on "The Office" and I sorta think you got a point there.

Well, the hubster has finally weighed in: this is a telenovela a man can revel in. It has all the nasty things men like to see in a show and Monica Miguel has spared none of those things, i.e., buckling and unbuckling of swashes, canons booming, ships wrecking, decapitated head rolling, swordfights and swiving galore, and pirate galantry ala Errol Flynn.
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Three things I'm not clear on. Correct me if I didn't understand it all:

1) Didn't Foreman offer LaFont only 30% of the true value and Jorge wonders why LaFont agreed since they were the ones taking most all the risk in stealing it? It's like pawning something then and you never get full market value in a case like that, so maybe LaFont was justifying his bad business deal with Foreman who obviously has the upperhand in this thing.
2) Vasco has a gambling habit and that's why he's been siphoning off money from his dad?
3) I think Ol' Tim told Cami that once upon a time he waited anxious for a special someone to die and was exceedingly happy when it happened. Presumably that was Ric's dad who treated Tio Tim and Fran like dogs.
 

Those white wigs look like nylon.
 

Ferro, Thanks for the enjoyable recap. I am sinking into the story better with each episode. Enough interesting threads have been added to the plot.

I especially liked Ricardo leaning back into the ropes as the ship sails, he is indeed the essence of cool. It has to be him right, no way they could use a body double for that gorgeous one.

Your take on Jorge's wanting so badly to be cool and liked by the guys is indeed "The Office". Anyone that has to keep saying they are the boss isn't sure somewhere inside.

Helen J., I agree with your detailed clarification of Ric's growing impactada look, he finds out just what happened to Camila after he neglected to show up at the auction in time.

Oldman Pete, thanks for another colorful navy man's lesson on ships and sails. My question, didn't Santiago come back from somewhere on an English galleon and does that mean there were still lines of slaves or serfs rowing? But did the early sailing ships still have oars too? Or had they stopped using the oars by this time. And yeah, old Timoteo ought to stifle the urge to keep people in line by telling them how rich they will be when he dies. Someone will want to test that theory for sure.

Jardinera, I also got that Foreman is giving Jorge only 30% of the value of the goods from the caravan raid, not the other way around. Jorge is finding out he is not the cock of the walk outside his small pueblo fiefdom. He probably suspects that Alonso is skimming something too, I'd put money on YES.

Ferro, I hope you are enjoying the bounty of two great Mexican cooks in your home. What a great Christmas present!! Yesterday my Ecuadorian professor at the grammar workshop told us about a great Cuban restaurant that opened recently across from UNM. Can't wait to get there to try their Ropa Vieja - shredded beef dish! ¡Aye Carumba!
 

I wonder if Tio Tim had it for the ramera that Ric supposedly murdered and that's why he's so full of vengeance towards Ric although that doesn't explain the hatred of Ric's pa. I too am having problems getting into this show even with Colunga. Susanna is just not my idea of a heroine; she's too "fake." And alas she's in practically every scene.
 

Thanks, Ferro, for the great recap.~~Things are slowly moving along. I think that the main problemo with the show is....not enough Cap'n Rick. Strange to hear me say that, si???? Whenever I type ''Rick'', I think of the SNL recurring skit with Amy Poeller where she keeps saying ''RickRickRick'' to her poor stepdad [?] Horatio Sanz. If they would just put more Rick into the show, everything would be better. We need a hero to clear things up and whip the bad dudes. Jorge is not evil enough...watching him and his horny toadies is like being at a frat party. The one who really jumps on my last nerve is Alberto...he's the one who is always egging Jorge on [like back in high school, the quarterback's weasly best friend]...I also think that look on Alberto's face when he was checking out young Vasco was a little too interested, and I did not like him threatening his daughter. So , to me, Alberto is the real villain...he's the one who egged lazy , no-can-do big talker Jorge into taking Camila in the first place and the one who stabbed Santiago. I also wish that Chip n' Dale got more screen time...likewise Mario. So, to conclude, we need more Rick and we need to ramp up the evil for Rick to fight. I think the problemo lies with the writing and the plotline. We need people that we really, really hate and others that we really, really love to whoop them. Old Tim is doing a great job of making me hate him...there's another big talker...falling asleep after finally getting Camila in his bed. Oh...and we need a lot more Ascanio ...with his great real hair...THAT would make the show better. Also, I need to see Rick leaning back on that rigging [or whatever] in every episode. P.S. Why don't these folks ever call me when they are putting these shows together??
 

Mad bess kid/Susanlynn: Carla Estrada call your office!
 

Ha! Great recap Ferro. Foreman looks like Cary Elwes, you nailed it; I was wondering who he reminded me of. And right again with the 80's looks and hair. I keep expecting Susana to come out in tights and legwarmer socks.

Speaking of Susana, I still like her in the role but I am growing Very Weary of Camila's constant sniveling. She's really starting to get on my nerves with her weepy begging and pleading. When will she get some backbone? It had better be soon!

I'm with Susanlynn (heh heh I usually am), we need more Ric on the rigging. We need more Ric everywhere!!

When Jorge told Alberto that he and Ofelia had done the deed in the past I got the impression that it wasn't entirely voluntary on her part. I think Jorge made some comment about women saying No but really meaning Yes. In my experience when people say No they usually mean No, especially when it comes to random sex in the woods.

Peg-Leg, I really enjoy your factoids about pirates and sailing. The fakeness of the sea scenes (i.e. boats "sailing" on dead calm seas) drives me nuts but all the other cool stuff makes up for it. Plus I'm learning how to give sailing orders in Spanish...bonus!!

Thanks Chris, enjoy your barbacoa!!
 

The boy that we see in the opening and in very early segments is the son of Vasco - yes? Who is the mother? Where is she?

Somehow I didn't get that. Thanks to all those who are so knowledgeable about the historic context in which this telenovela is set.
 

I definitely got the impression that Jorge forced Ofelia to find him "irresistible" based on the fact that he owns everything and everyone in that town. No pressure, though, right? Yeah, right! So as many here speculated, he could very well be the baby daddy of Santi.

I'm finally getting a handle on who's who and what's what here thanks to these great recaps. All that long flowing hair was confusing me (and that's just on the men!) It's taken a little longer to get involved with this Carla Estrada novela than usual even with her trademark socially conscious themes and attention to atmospheric detail. I love me some Fernando but there's no romance yet, no sparks. And I think Susana is very attractive in her roles as chic, sleek contemporary women but here she looks a tad too old and haggard, with the exception of the opening credits as Chris said, where she looks fresher and prettier. I like the mini epic of the credits, by the way, with the haunting theme song.

I too think things will pick up from this point, and in the meantime I have lots of eye candy with Ric, Mario, Ascancio, et al. I do have to admit that I fast forward through all the decapitating, impaling and so forth but I had to linger on the money shot of Ric on the prow. Ahhh.
 

Thanks for the rapier/cutlass info yesterday, Pegleg Pete! I thought a cutlass was bigger than what Tim was using, but I admit I didn't get a good look.

What I don't get is how that painting is still in one piece. It really should have disintegrated by now. :)
 

Lesa, I am deleting your comment because it is a spoiler. People who have seen episodes which have not aired in the U.S. should NOT tell us what's going to happen. This is a NO-SPOILER zone. Thanks for observing this restriction. Speculation is fine - but not hints about the future.
 

Cami isn't the only whiner. There's mucho whining about the bad hair do's and wigs. Yet, there has been reader comments about several things that did not exist as portrayed back in 1700-1800 (such as the cane and the 1980's head band, the shirt that was whiter than it should have been etc). So, face it, they didn't have clean, straight, untangled hair back then. Women washed their hair about once a month. If the hair was clean and immaculately styled, I'm sure we'd hear about it from the wannabe directors and talent scouts and viewers who have already made up their mind that they don't like the show. Kinda remind me of a saying on a magnet on the family refrigerator that said "If mama ain't happy, aint nobody gonna be happy".
 

FYI: This telenovela should last approximately 4 months. It's ending around Jan. 21st in Mexico according to a TN-W post.
 

I love Timoteo and Jorge. I'm so sad Timmie has to die. I also like Foreman. Did you like how he said, "god, very god," the other day when the subtitles said, bueno...

I wish Capn Rick didn't have to scowl all the time. I wish Rick's mommie and aunt and cousin didn't have to have the exact same conversation two or three times in every episode.

I hope Tonki comes back in a starring role as Camila's dog.
 

I'm really liking John Foreman in a sadistic sort of way. He is oh so Cary E. and yet older and I like his burnt dry blond look that needs buckets of creme rinse if he want to call me for an appointment to personally apply said rinse. I get a kick out of his British accent which is pretty good but occasionally lapses into Mexican English. Still I enjoy hearing these brawny men in what ever language they care to utter or mutter....
 

I always enjoy your recaps, Chris. I think this novela is a turkey - but I've never liked Susana Gonzalez. You are right on with Cary Elwes. I wonder whether the actor playing Foreman really has a bad Spanish accent or is just pretending.

I think they spent all their money on the pirate ship scenes but they don't have anywhere enough money to make them look real like in Pirates of the Caribbean (POTC). Speaking of POTC, has anyone noticed that the music that plays when the pirates are attacking sounds a lot like the POTC theme?

Concerning hair, women not only didn't wash their hair anywhere near as often as we do, they only had soap to wash with. We use detergent, which doesn't leave a greasy residue. I'll never forget the show, 1900 House, on PBS. The women had to wash their hair with soap and they hated it so much, they broke the rules to buy real shampoo. In any case, women put their hair up and covered it with a cap.
I think Francesca's hair looks like sausage rolls.
 

I must also complain about the HORRIBLE music yet again. That fat lady singer, her song was awful, the arrangment was awful, her singing was awful.
 

YES the fat lady's song was awful... and yet... she sang. Does that mean something's over?
 

Hee hee, Julie good one. A "10" from the Russian judge!

The ghastly singer looked familiar to me. Do we know her from anywhere?
 

That singer was on ''Mundo de Fieras.'' Remember??? She became a maid at the crazy Fieras' house . I , too, noticed the ''god, very god.'' And, Fernando saying something like ''We sail at din [dawn].'' It seems that these actors are learning the English phonetically the way I learn Arabic and Chinese words.'' Spanish speakers especially have trouble with vowels in English...I guess because in English each vowel has 2 sounds [short and long] whereas in Spanish I think there is just one sound for each vowel. My students often pronounce ''pilot'' as ''peelit'' since the ''i'' in Spanish sounds like the lone ''e'' in English. Cap'n Eve--Did you watch Bailando last night ??...Reggaton ...MYOHMYOHMY !
 

I'm enjoying your complaining--Melinama, except when I did it before the show started, you threatened to delete my post 'cuz I was "spoiling the joy." I do understand--you're only allowed to complain after the fact. However, some of us do read the reviews of disillusioned viewers and trusted critics before investing our own time,(or in the case of movies, money. ) Yeah, I also said Susana was too haggard for those pretty-wench period outfits and looks better in a business suit. Given all the anachronisms reported by the recappers she might as well show up in one. Oldman--thanks for the fact-filled post about navigation. That shows you can make something out of what appears to be nothing. As for the rest -- gag me with a spoon--preferably a demitasse.
 

Hi Destilando Cafe - I think my stance is perfectly consistent. We get to moan and complain to our hearts' content about what we're actually seeing. But when people say, "You're going to hate this show, the folks in Mexico did," or, "Watch out, next week will be a real tear-jerker," this comes under the category of spoilers.
 

If people really want to read reviews, spoilers, etc. before investing their time watching a telenovela, it is certainly easy enough to find that information on another site. It is nice to have a place where this information does NOT get posted.
 

Melinama, thanks for the no spoiler rule. It's god, very god...
jb - iron jack cash
 

JB - stop it, I'm going to be going around saying "very god" for the rest of the day. :)
 

I agree Julie, that stuff is all over the place. Even TV y Novelas magazine puts stuff in before it actually airs sometimes. They had a bit on the Arnaldo/Julio gay wedding in Amar months before it actually happened.
Melinama, I think you have been quite consistent. If every now and again someone gets rubbed the wrong way because they want to appear to be 'in the know' or whatever, I don't think deleting that comment just to be on the safe side is unwarranted. This may be the 'public' internet, but at the same time you are the admin and you have free reign to do as you will.

Change of subject - at the end of my recap, I noted how Captain Ric got all intense when he heard that Timoteo married a prostitute named Camila. Apparently everyone thought I was too dense to realize that Ric immediately knew this was the same Camila from the slave sale. Of COURSE I knew that Ric knew who she was. In fact, to me it was about the most obvious thing ever, which is why I didn't spell it out. I guess I was at the end of writing my recap after midnight on Saturday and didn't write that scene very well.

Helen J. - thanks for explaining that the girl LaFont was roughing up was his own daughter, that really goes a long way towards illustrating LaFont's personality. I knew he was a bully/kissass but now we know that he is even more than that, he doesn't even show any love for his own family.

Jardinera - your third point, about Tim reminiscing of someone else dying, is right on. Somehow I wasn't able to write that up correctly. Sometimes I'll go back and fix my description of something, sometimes I get too impatient and move on. That time I moved on, thanks for explaining that better than I did.

It sounds like so far we have a wide range of love/hate for this show. I am liking it more each day, as I grow more familiar with the characters and they start showing second or third dimensions, I am enjoying it more. Of course half of them are idiots, that's how these shows are. At least this show has quality acting. That can be hit or miss sometimes, so far the acting has been good. As for Camila's look, maybe she is supposed to look like she was in the hold of a ship for a month, but that will not stop me from fondly recalling how hot she was back in her Babe Lawyer days on Duelo de Pasiones.
 

I *like* Camila, better than perky Lucero/Hipolita or that wimpy one in Amor Real. She does anguish very convincingly and that's all she's been allowed to do so far (just as Colunga has only been allowed to glower except when he was with his mommy).

Nobody beats Timoteo and Jorge though, they are the best.
 

Yes, I like Jorge a lot. For having been in power as long as he has, he seems to be incredibly insecure. The other day when LaFont came back to tell him about robbing the caravan, the way he was pacing around and looking at the door cracked me up.

I forgot one thing in my earlier comment - the barbacoa tacos my wife and suegra made were awesome.
 

ferro -thank you!! i like your tone in these recaps...i atually did love your comment in the end about whether or not capn ric was impactado or horny...lol!

me too i am waiting gracfully for asanio to show up with his real hair...don't they show his real hair in the previews?

i don't want old timmy to die!! i'm growing really fond of him and his bitter comments.... but then without timmy's upcoming death we wouldn't have cami bought off to be his wife, and without cami we wouldn't have a shirtless fer looking pensative on his ship... hmmm....shirtless capn rick vs old timmy...that's a hard one.

cheryl-- funny that you mentioned noone can be used to dub capn ric's amazing body...(i agree 1000%). inverting your comment, back in the days fernando actually started off as a stunt double, which later on got him into acting... ;) i guess HIS body was of great benefit to others...

cami looked better as babe lawyer because that shade of brown goes much better with her skintone. in re to the hideous headband, my only guess is that someone on the production team found a good use to their mother's aerobics headband from the 80's.
 

me too i like cami better than hipo. tough i like hipo's role better, i don't think there was much chemistry between hipo and luis.
 

Hello All,

Hey Jean, loved your comment about the "1900 House". I thought I was the only one who watched those shows. Watching that show made me realize how good we have it now. We see the romantic dresses and scenes from these silly novellas and forget the realities like no shampoo. In the 1900 House, I was struck by the lady of the houses' comments about having to wear a corset all day. How gripie and iritable she was. Also the duties of the Scullery maid and how she dealt with her period while working. Long live push up bras, tampons and maxi's with wings!!

Rhonda, From Texas
 

I thought maybe she got a cut or a pimple on her forehead or something that was too big to hide with makeup.

Melinama makes a good point. Not every telenovela heroine is going to be a Gaviota or whatever... maybe Cami will grow a backbone later. I don't love the way this character is written, but that's not SG's fault. She's being asked to cry and whine, and by golly she is doing it. :)

I figure Timmy will die during a coughing fit, and Cami will be blamed - about five minutes before Ricardo was going to rescue her. Then they'll BOTH have been accused of murders they didn't commit.

That's the obvious choice for a plot twist, but I'm really bad at predicting plot twists, so don't mind me. :) I'm impressed that we've got any anvils at all so early into the story.
 

Thanks for the wonderful recap! It was way better than the show itself. I’m still lost, though, about who is who among the subsidiary characters.

My favorite part last night: the skull and crossbones in the cabin of the ship where the pirate pal lay wounded. It reminded me of a poster in a dorm room. And Tim is still my guy – he’s always interesting, and at least a bit complex instead of one-sided. He seems to have some humor and a bit of warmth at times. Yes, it seems that many people have good reason to want to off him, so I’m sure he’s going to get it. I just hope not too soon.

I’m not enjoying the acting which I think is because the scenes are so short and the script seems to be mostly for plot exposition. I don’t think the actors stand a chance.

Any of you know anything about the history behind the doings? What is this war that’s going on between the Spanish and the English and how does it come out in the end? I could go look it up, but I don’t know what the name of the war is, plus I’m being lazy.
 

Sorry, that cut/pimple comment was in reference to the headbands. Since it's so noticeable (and sorta unattractive) I thought there had to be a really good reason for her to be wearing it, like to hide a bandage.

OTOH you never know when it's just a wardrobe person with a grudge.
 

This link might be about the conflict in progress during the time of Pasion - http://www.british-civil-wars.co.uk/military
/anglo-spanish-war.htm

I didn't read the whole thing carefully, but it appears to be the same time frame and the same participants as on the show.
 

Way to research Dread Pirate Cash! I hadn’t realized this was all part of a conflict in Europe – I had assumed that it was the English and Spanish struggling over holdings in Mexico and South America, but now I see it was over the Caribbean. And I didn’t realize this was during Cromwell times, and that this was a Catholic vs Protestant issue. So I hope I’m correct in thinking that Mexico where Camilla came from is a far-off place and not part of the conflict, yes?

Since we are in the mid-1600s (I got goofed up on that, mixing up seventeenth century with the 1700s) I am wondering about Camilla’s village. I find it odd that everyone there looks like they’re of Spanish descent. Surely the native peoples would be part of the village life too, if not of the high society part? The Spanish must’ve been a very small minority at that time, I’m thinking.
 

You're right, I didn't think about how white everyone was for being in Mexico before it was even Mexico.
 

Ferro/Dread Pirate Cash – As always, you’ve given us a diverting recap! Thanks!

“She doesn’t have any headbands on, no strange purple wigs, she just looks natural and hot. Why aren’t we seeing her that way on the show?” LOL—you’re watching the wrong show, pal. You need to watch Ivonne or Paula on Yo Amo a Juan. Just ask Oldman/Pegleg Pete.

“a forcedly casual pose set up on the prow of his ship, leaning back against one of the ropes, trying to look cool. I’m sure you ladies agree that he pulled it off, he looks cool.” Darn right we think that! He didn’t even twitch a muscle doing it, either.

“Perhaps Lazaro is lying again, like when he said he bought the kids at the slave market.” I’m bettin’ he’s lying, and he’s going to be in really deep kim-chee when Ric finds out all of it.

Jeanne
 

I have had the pleasure of seeing whoever the main female character is on Juan during the preview before Amar starts, and yes I wish there was some of that on whatever show I was watching. Holy moley.
 

For anyone interested, there is a program called "Uncovered" on the Biography Channel tonight subtitled "True Caribbean Pirates". It's a two hour program and the first hour is alas during Pasion, but it shows again 4 hours later (midnight here in the central time zone). I'm not that into pirates, but it might be interesting and get me more interested in Pasion. It's "a history of piracy in the West Indies during the 17th & 18th Centuries" and includes profiles of famous pirates.
 

There was also the War of the Spanish Succession, which was between 1701 and 1714. The British, Netherlands and Austria (I think) fought the French and Spanish because they were afraid they were going to merge, which would tip the balance of power in Europe. The war spilled over into the new world (where I think it was called Queen Anne's war). This period was also the golden age of the British and French pirates in the Caribbean.
 

Hubby is getting bored with Pasion, but when he wants to entertain me or curry favor, he will do a masterful Don Tim impression, complete with coughing fit. Tim seems a stronger villain than Jorge, so sorry to think he will die early on.
FC did look cool leaning (posing)on the rigging. I know Francesa's coiled hair style is a wig, but would love a scene showing her maid fixing in the morning. It would have to take a long time to get each section perfectly in place.
I've also seen the chunky blonde singer on some variety show or Cantando por un Sueno, or somwhere.
La Paloma
 

I think about Susana has the hairband because of some problem with her hairline. Cheap wigs do not look natural with the hair pulled back. More expensive wigs have what is called a lace front and with make up the hair can look relatively natural pulled back from the forehead. Why they wouldn't get a decent wig for Susana is another question. Alternatively, her dye job went bad and fried her hair so it can't be shown.

Ascanio's wig is the kind they sell for $20 for hallowe'en. It's beyond dreadful.
 

I believe the pleasantly plump blond singer is Sheyla Tadeo. I remembered her from Mi Destino Eres Tu and googled her. She was, as someone suggested, also in Mundo de fieras. If you go to Google images you'll see pictures.
 

Well, I still like the show , and I am looking forward to tonight's episode. I still love the historical setting, the costumes, the theme song, and the actors. Just the idea of pirates has provided a lot of fun for us here at Caray!Caray! ~~~Mad bess kidd/ susanlynn, seeing the glass as half full of rum as opposed to half empty
 

I'm with you Susanlynn! I look forward to watching every night.
 

Mad Bess Susanlynn, yes I did watch Bailando last night. The Reggaeton...ooh la la!! I've never seen a dance where they ended with the woman doing a face plant in the guy's...well never mind. And Argentina's little horizontal bop...my oh my. On the flip side, I thought Slovakia's waltz was one of the most beautiful things I'd ever seen. Theirs was the only waltz I didn't fast-forward through. Do you understand the scoring system? What a mess!

OK, gotta go get my glass half-full of rum ready for Pasión...
 

Rhonda from Texas...

You wouldn't happen to be about 5' tall, would you? I know a woman named Rhonda that lives out there and I'm always teasing her about being the shortest Texan in history. It would be too bizarre if you're the same person!

Cheryl New Mex...

Yes, some of the smaller sailing ships used oars (called sweeps) to provide steerage in times of calm weather. The sailors would man the sweeps.

I don't believe that "slavery" was a factor on sailing ships, at least not in the sense of "galley slaves" like you would find in the Mediterranean during the early ages of Greek and Roman control. There really was a strong bond among the seamen on the old sailing ships, a cameradrie born of dismal living conditions, backbeaking labor and constant danger and death. It was an extremely difficult life and most of the crews were paid a share of the profit based on their position in the crew.

"Impressment" was a means of obtaining a crew for a ship by kidnapping able-bodied men and literally taking them to sea. Over on the Pacific coast the term used was "shanghaied", for service on the China runs. Mostly however this kind of practice was during war-time when anything that could float was used and anyone who could be trained to man the ship was grabbed.

I'm still having a problem with the "time" of this novela. But I've always been fascinated with the 1700-1800's and the history of the ascendency of the New World.
 

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