Saturday, February 23, 2008
02/22/08 Pasión: Decisions, Decisions, Decisions
To avoid a rehash we begin as Saintly is on retreat in Monte Carmelo, reading in the garden as his mother walks silently in and looks on. (What gives with the greasy goldilocks, Carla? I ‘m sure it is supposed to remind us of a lion’s mane, but to me it’s just a matted mop of ratty hair on an otherwise gorgeous hunk o’ man.) Ofelia calls to him and she timidly asks how he’s getting along. He looks up and says he’s fine and asks how is she doing. She answers that she’s been worried about him. He grabs and hugs her saying not to worry.
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Back in town Sofia, with Fortunata in tow, comes looking for Saintly, first at the forge then at his house. Sofia greets Ramona, who explains that Ofelia left early in the morning for Monte Carmelo to visit Saintly who happens to be on retreat there. GRita comes out to say hello. Sofia asks her what her husband is doing on retreat at Monte Carmelo. Grita answers it was probably to clear his head. The very next thing out of GRita’s mouth is, “Pardon me for being so abrupt, but it seems that Santiago is Don Jorge’s son.” (I’d say you were more obtuse than abrupt, Rita dear.) Ramona stops dead in her tracks.
Sofia casts an accusing glare over at Fortunata. Feeling self-important, Grita continues, “I hope you don’t mind me bringing it up with you?” Sofia gives GRita a rather contemptuous smile, “Don’t worry yourself,” then turns to go. “Oh,” Sofia turns around to ask. “When does your mother-in-law get back?” GRita, obviously unaware she’s been left out of the loop, turns to Ramona and asks her where Ofelia went. Ramona, doesn’t know what to say, bright enough to figure it’s best to just play dumb at this point, and gives her a non-responsive stammer. Sofia sniffs to herself and walks away in disgust. GRita, who doesn’t have sense enough to know she’s just been dissed, looks a bit puzzled and then smiles smugly to herself for the umpteenth time.
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At Monte Carmelo Ofelia tells Saintly (mistakenly) that only Ascanio knows their situation and that Grita got told to mind her own beeswax when she got nosy. She asks what Saintly plans to do now; he says Friar Lorenzo told him after he’d complained to the friar about his rotten luck, that God was no doubt testing him to see if he had a calling to redeem souls.
Ofelia asks if he intends to become a monk or then, perhaps a preacher once Saintly reminds her that he has a wife and a baby on the way so priesthood is out of the question. Somehow he feels he is being called to bring the lost sheep back into the fold. Ofelia worries that he’s going to be entering the wolf’s den, and that he’ll be lost to temptation instead. He answers her, standing there, somehow reminiscent of Signorelli or Carduccio’s Jesus (–So that’s it, huh, Carla?) that the way to Heaven is difficult. He must try to fight the temptations he faces. After all, that wolf is his father.
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Back at Camila’s townhouse, Jimena asks Cami what she’s going to tell her family, not to mention Don Jorge, when they see her there rather than living in her husband’s house. Cami interrupts with a slight tantrum and yells at her that he’s not her husband, just a shameless scoundrel who deceived her.
Jime suggests that then Cami must be going to tell them he’s not Ricardo Lopez de Carvejal, but is really Ricardo de Salamanca, aka “El Antillano”, the infamous pirate that half the world’s been searching for who is condemned to the gallows. “What a pretty spectacle that will be with the man who drives you crazy in bed hanging there in the plaza by his neck with his tongue out, his eyes popping out of his head and his legs twitching around…..“ (What a visual!) Cami can’t stand it any longer. “—Alright already!” Jime looks at her, “Well, that’s what’s going to happen.”
Cami still has a head full of cobwebs and whines, “Why didn’t he just tell me before?” Jimena loses all patience and says she’s about ready to grab her friend and start slapping her, even if it means Cami kicks her out and she’s forced to turn tricks on Main Street forever and a day. “He explained it all to you! He said that with the business about your dad, his illness, the mill and the store, and Don Jorge—“Jime stops mid-sentence. “Ayy! You win his heart and you respond in this way --and don’t you deny it!! You are in love with him!”
Jimena answers Cami’s hypothetical. “So what would you have done if he had told you before? You would have said something thoughtless to your father, Vasco, to Santiago or whomever and Ric would be dead.” Cami asks her then what she should do, since going back would be so shameful, pretending he’s her husband when he isn’t. (I figure about here that Jimena had to be thinking the same thing we all were: “He got you into bed the first time without a ring, so what’s the frickin’ difference?”)
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Meanwhile, Ric is galloping toward the main road when Vasco spies him and calls him over to ask him if he’s heard the news about Santi being Don Jorge’s bastard son and that DJ might just recognize him. Ric says what’s the big deal? Vasco explains that Jorge needs a male descendant or else the governorship will be awarded to another family. Ric says his daughter could marry and give him a grandson, right? Vasco says sure, but in the end it all depends on what Jorge decides to do.
On the way back home, Manuela runs into Fortunata and tells her that her godmother’s son-in-law is over his head in debt and faces being sent to debtors’ prison and being sold into servitude. They lament that despite his education and proper upbringing, once he’s been bought he has no rights as a person anymore.
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Mario and Guero gallop toward San Luis Rey. Unbeknownst to them, LaFont and his men are headed in the same direction. One of Buffy’s men knows a shortcut and they take it to save time.
Back in town, Cami and Jimena are chatting on the way to Ines’. Jime tells Cami to think about something else before she makes a final split with Ric: the sale of the mill she bought her father will probably be voided since Ric signed with a false name and she’ll be back at square one with Don Jorge telling her she can’t have it back unless she sleeps with him.
Just then they see Ric crossing the plaza. He greets them with a smile and says he guesses Cami hasn’t turned him in since he’d be in jail by now. She changes the subject and asks what he was doing at the town’s administrative offices. He tells her he’s just sent off a letter. She says no she hasn’t said anything, but she’d just as soon he’d leave. They agree to use the story that he left on business then drowned in a shipwreck, but he says first he’ll wait for Mario to return. Cami snidely asks if Mario brings back the letter if Ric plans to give it to her or to Lis. Ric smiles that gorgeous smile of his again, though it’s a bit more restrained this time, ‘cause it is obvious Cami’s ‘tude is getting to him--not to mention the rest of us. He says he figured she knew him better than that by now. Cami, proving that she is definitely hatched from the same hen house as GRita, spitefuly answers that she did once, but not now.
Ric’s had enough and finally he gets angry. He tells her that a person doesn’t change who and what they are simply because their name has changed. He says he’s still the same person she’s known up to now: the same unfortunate guy who is trying to get back the life they stole from him. He turns and walks off, getting the last word, as if to say, “Cami, considering how we met and what it took for you to get back here to San Fernando, I’d think you’d understand and not be so quick to condemn, let alone gettin’ on your high horse like you are.” As if…..
After he’s gone Jimena, the single raindrop in Cami’s desert of dense, tries to make Cami see reason and gives her another good piece of her mind. (Somebody needs to.) “How could you have been so unfeeling? You practically threw him out of town!” “—I’m not to blame for who or whatever he is.” “—Well, he isn’t to blame, either,” says Jimena. “He told you why he became a pirate. He’s treated you like a queen (Here! Here!), spoiled you, given into you, helped your family, confronted the Lord Governor of the place (Damn straight!), and still he’s worrying himself trying to get that damned letter back to make sure you keep your money.” (Damn! Mario was right. Where has the guy’s self-respect gone?) Cami apparently has to think this one through a bit more. “So I’m supposed to go back to him? My father will die of shame when he finds out we’re not really married.” Jimena (the one who Ric really should be hooking up with) says why bother telling him at all.
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In the boonies, Mario and Guero are slowed down asking directions and backtracking to find the right trail to take them to San Luis Rey. On the way, they come upon Foreman who’s waiting while his coach has a broken axle fixed. Mario tells him that they are on an errand for El Antillano, but he covers quickly and says it’s to look for lamb for a big barbecue. Foreman is all excited there’ll be a party. Mario says they’re celebrating Antillano’s marriage. Foreman is impactado to hear El Antillano has gotten married. He tells Mario that it just so happens that he and Hernan were headed to San Fernando to visit Antillano. He invites them to come along. Mario says thanks, but like, they really have to get the lamb first. So Foreman asks what name Antillano is using now, since he can’t really go around asking for ‘El Antillano.’ Mario tells him Lopez de Carvejal. Foreman tells him that he’ll be using the name John Lancastar and will say he’s a natural scientist doing experiments and collecting specimens or whatever.
Meanwhile, Ric does a little soul searching in the country and thinks to himself that he has to become emotionally detached from Cami. “I’ve got to think about me and my life. By God, it is costing me so much, too much,” he says. “What a rotten time to fall in love with you, Camila. What a really rotten time.”
Along the trail, Mario tells Guero he’s ticked at having lost so much time shooting the breeze with Foreman. Guero wonders why Foreman is really out and about travelling like that. He asks Mario if maybe Foreman is really scoping things out, planning to plunder Veracruz. Mario has an idea but when Guero wants to go into it more, Mario cuts him off and starts galloping toward San Luis Rey again.
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Cami visits Justo. They discuss Vasco and Ines getting along so well now, and how Vasco has fortunately for them all gotten his head on straight and become a help rather than a hindrance. Justo asks after Ric. In order not to shock his system again she invents a story about Ric’s leaving to take care of a few business dealings and adds that he sent along his best wishes. He says he was the right man to protect her from the likes of Don Jorge. Justo then has to say what every self-respecting new FIL tells his daughter: Get pregnant fast and give me grandkids.
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Hernan and Foreman are finally on the road again. Neither can imagine Antillano being in love. Foreman thinks his wife must be something pretty special to make him leave “the life” for her. Hernan thinks that perhaps Lazaro was right, that Antillano has gone soft. Foreman says he doesn’t agree at all. In fact, he is intrigued by all the coincidences surrounding Antillano. Hernan says, “Like Lafont being from the same little town?” The wheels in the English corsair’s head are starting to turn. He tells Hernan, “Yes, and also that he seems to have an important Spanish functionary for a godfather…..”
Outside at Justo’s Jimena tells his housekeeper to make sure he continues to get his medicine so that his blood doesn’t “thicken.” (Probably they’re referring to some kind of homeopathic aspirin-like concoction of the day to keep his blood from clotting and causing another stroke.) Jimena gossips then about Vasco and Ines’ marriage, which the housekeeper agrees will continue to work as long as Vasco doesn’t start alley cattin’ again.
Upstairs Justo tells Cami that he is anxious to throw a big bash to celebrate her marrying a great guy like Ric, and a man he likes enough to consider another son. Cami is obviously uncomfortable with the idea, but says she’ll “discuss it” with Ric and get back to him. Justo says it would be a great satisfaction to die knowing his children were all respectably married. They hug and Cami cries secret tears of shame.
Back walking through town together a few minutes later, Cami tells Jime about the conversation she just had with her father. They decide to pay a visit to GRita, but Jimena warns her Ric won’t like it. Cami says she has a right to visit her own family and they head for Santiago’s house.
Jorge walks to the blacksmith shop and asks around for Santi. Ascanio tells him that he went to see a client about doing some urgent repairs. Jorge leaves word that when he gets back to tell him he should come looking for him. He wants to speak with him. He leaves and Chip and Dale ask Ascanio what’s up with Santiago since they all know Santi didn’t go see some client and isn’t it strange that first Doña Sofia ,and now Don Jorge comes asking for him. Ascanio brushes both of them off and tells them to ask Santi when he gets back, and walks away troubled by having to keep so many secrets.
Jorge runs into Jime and Cami in the plaza. They try to avoid him, but end up sitting at an outside café table when he asks to join them. They can’t exactly refuse and he sits down. After a bit of meaningless chitchat about Justo’s health, he asks Cami how Ric is spending his time these days. He says he was given to understand that none of the business propositions he and Alberto discussed with him were appealing. “I don’t really discuss business with him,” she answers.
Jorge keeps verbally jabbing her. “On the other hand, though, perhaps Ric is thinking of leaving, since the business with Lis’s inheritance was mercilessly cruel.” Cami politely replies, “I had no influence in any of her father’s decisions.” “—Oh, I don’t doubt it,” says Jorge. “I pity her as well.” Then Jorge comments that he is happy for Cami, though. As rich as Ric ought to be, her inheritance shouldn’t be necessary. He excuses himself, leaves a coin for his wine and walks off with a slight smirk on his face.
Cami says that’s the second time Don Jorge has spoken to her in a mocking tone of voice when talking about her money. Jime tells Cami that Don Jorge was sticking it to her about Ric’s money, since he knows perfectly well that Ric doesn't have any money because he was the one who stole it from him.
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In San Luis Rey, Alberto arrives at Eusebia's while Eusebia's at the bakery with her little boy. The little girl takes him to her "Uncle Bernabe". LaFont, with the little girl in his arms, asks Bernabe menacingly for the ED letter. Bernabe plays dumb at first, but LaFont takes out his stiletto and tells him to hand it over or he'll carve the little girl to pieces. At the same time LaFont gently kisses the little girl on the head and lets her down in a single smooth move that is definitely “skin-crawl” worthy. Frightened, Bernabe whines to LaFont that it was all Vasco's idea (as if that would make a difference with Vlad The Impaler LaFont.) LaFont says he could care less, just hand it over or else. Bernabe goes to get it but he is shaking so hard he can hardly unbuckle the leather pouch it's in. (Note: Bernabe’s pouch was under the bed, so could Cami’s cash be hidden under there too?)
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Cami and Jimena find Ines at Santi’s, filling in for her mother and taking care of her clients while Ofelia’s up at Monte Carmelo. Cami asks what’s she’s doing up there, so Ines tells them to come into the sewing room so she can tell them all about it. GRita hears them and Ramona explains Cami and Jimena are there visiting in the sewing room with Ines. GRita smiles smugly (a-gain) to herself and walks in just as Ines begins to tell Cami and Jime the news. With a mile-wide grin she manages to tell them the news—her news--first: her hubby is going to be the future Lord of San Fernando. Full of herself, GRita beams at them in some sort of bizarre triumph; even Jimena is speechless.
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Later that afternoon, back at the townhouse, it seems Cami’s inner self is still in conflict. Crying in her copa, she hangs her head and admits to Jime that she doesn't know what to do about Ric. Jime, instinctively aware that being shrewd always tops being a shrew, advises her to have the wedding celebration and go back to Ric like nothing’s happened.
Cami argues that it’s a sham marriage and they’d be tricking the entire town. “But you’re already married, he told you. He made that oath in front of the altar. Besides who cares what that bunch of cowards thinks! What did they ever do for you? Did they defend your father’s mill and store when Don Jorge took them from him? Do they protest whenever he decides to carry off some woman to his bed on a whim?”
Cami defends the townspeople saying they’re all afraid and Jime says that’s her point. She tells Cami she needs to think about her own needs. “Who cares what name the man goes by when he adores you, your father thinks of him like a son and you love him? It’s the man that is important to you.” “—But what if they should discover him tomorrow or the day after?” “—Let God deal with it, but in the meantime, enjoy. Happiness doesn’t last very long.”
Cami finally sees the light here, but is too full of pride to see herself returning and asking to be forgiven. Jimena says to give it a day or two and he’ll come to see her, they’ll reconcile and well, that’s that. Cami says it’s not so simple, but Jime says it would be extremely simple if it were her. Anyway, they love each other; he suits her, her family, and everyone else for that matter.
Suddenly Jimena gets an idea and fakes being nauseous from drinking too much. She leaves Cami to her thoughts and goes out looking for Candida. Jime tells the girl to bring her a giant cup of strong coffee but that she is planning on going out, so if Cami should ask for her to tell her she's sound asleep.
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Mario and El Guero get into San Luis Rey finally and are asking directions to Eusebia's. They pull up outside the door to her house just as a bloodcurdling scream comes from inside. Guero stands guard while Mario races inside the room where he finds Eusebia holding a dead Bernabe in her arms. He assures her he means no harm. She says that her daughter told her that a gentleman came asking for him, entered and then left. She came in and found him like this.
Mario spies Bernabe's open saddlebag and starts searching through the papers in it. He asks Eusebia about the letter he was supposed to have, but she has no idea what he's talking about. Mario looks at the two of them, frustrated at being a bit too late to retrieve the letter and takes in LaFont’s gruesome handiwork: Bernabe’s slit throat.
At the same time Ofelia returns home. Ines tells her that GRita told her the news. Ascanio comes over from the forge to tell her both Sofia and Don Jorge came by looking for Santi and that Jorge wants to speak with him.
Ofelia confirms the “news” to her daughter. Ines tries to comfort her mother and tells her that although she doesn’t know how it happened, she’s certain her mother was not to blame. She asks if Santi was in Monte Carmelo because of this and Ofelia says yes. Ines wants to know what he said about it, but Ofelia can only cry and shake her head in shame.
That night Ursula comes down to speak to her father about her “supposed” half-brother. She’s convinced it’s a gimmick of her mother’s and Ofelia’s to hurt her. It can’t be true that he is his son, she tells him, because for all his apparent decency, he still is no more than a course, uncouth hick. Jorge stops her. “An uncouth hick? Seems you were all hot to substitute him for the other guy, that Vasco Darien.” “—I swear, Daddy, that that was some fabrication of Mother’s. Anyway, supposing he really is your bastard. There’s no way you ought to recognize him because it would be just too… humiliating having a blacksmith for a brother.”
Jorge stops her again. “Hey, being a blacksmith is no small feat. To be a master blacksmith is more impressive still.” “—But he’s still a townie!” she complains. Jorge begins to give her a quick backgrounder regarding their family tree. “My ancestors –and your ancestors—arrived here 200 years ago, and what do you think they were? Farm-workers, bakers, quick-thinkers. Many were thieves and murderers as were the majority of those who came to conquer this land.” “—Dad, we’re a bit more refined now.” “—Think so, eh? Well, even when we appear refined, we don’t deny our heritage. You yourself appear all silvery and golden, but you behave like a tavern girl. Or, am I wrong?”
Ursula ignores this bit of truth and asks what happens to her then if she remarries and gives him a grandson. Jorge explains his reasoning and says that if she has more children they’ll have some other man’s last name. He wants the Governorship to be held by a Mancera. If he finds he has a son who is a self-made man, tried and true, cultured and literate, who makes a good appearance, then, problem solved.
“—So, you’ve made your decision?” Jorge explains that the way he sees it, her husband will want her to move to his home in some other town. If she gets married, he adds, he hopes she’ll comport herself properly, because if she continues to carry on like some whore and the guy throws her out, don’t count on running back to Papa.
As far as Jorge is concerned, then, all that’s lacking now is to speak with Santi about it. If they come to some agreement, then perhaps he will officially recognize him as his son with all the rights that come with it. Ursula fights back her tears and wisely swallows her anger.
Across town, Vasco and Paco have a different kind of conversation. Vasco explains the difference between being a servant and being sold into servitude--heavy stuff for a little kid, but Vasco does a pretty good job of it. Some servants he says are bought and sold like slaves because of some tragedy, while others, like theirs, come to work for them because they want to.
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Later that same night, Ric tells Lis he’s got somewhere to be and she asks if it has to do with Camila. He gives her an emphatic “No!” and abruptly walks out on her.
At the same time Jimena is getting out of a coach outside Ric's manor house and tells Pablo she urgently needs to speak to Ric. Pablo tries to explain that it will have to wait since he is just about to leave. Ric happens to walk out at that moment and she runs over to tell him that he should go see Camila. With a broad smile she says that if he goes over there tonight Cami will most definitely come back with him. He hesitates not knowing whether to go to the townhouse, or with his men to see if the money caravan from Vericruz is attacked.
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Thank you for this terrific recap. I'm a little confused about one point. Who is Manuela's godmother and godmother's son-in-law? ......... "On the way back home, Manuela runs into Fortunata and tells her that her godmother’s son-in-law is over his head in debt and faces being sent to debtors’ prison and being sold into servitude" I know I'm missing something very simple here.
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: Saturday, February 23, 2008 at 7:08:00 PM EST
: Saturday, February 23, 2008 at 7:08:00 PM EST
Anon. 7:08PM. Thanks for popping in! Truthfully, I have no idea either. She uses the word "madrina" which is either a godmother, a matron of honor at a wedding, or a protectress, depending on the context. Since Agata is her nana I figure it is someone else we've not been introduced to as yet.
I was definitely cheering Jimena on. She was definitely saying what I was thinking. I'm getting a little tired of Camila's attitude towards Ric. Like Juliet said in Romeo and Juliet "what's in a name" LOL. Jimena is definitely the voice of reason and maybe Ric should've hooked up with her instead LOL. But it looks like Jimena will be trying to reunite Ric and Camila and now that LaFont has the ED letter Camila will need Ric's help more than ever.
Thanks, Jardinera for that great recap. Ah yes, Romeo and Juliet : ''A rose by any other name would smell as sweet.'' And Ric is sweet no matter what name he goes by. I hope that he and Camila are back together soon . If they do get back together, it will be thanks to Jimena. I love that girl. She cuts right through all the superficial BS. She really is a great debater and offered Camila a whole list of reasons to return to Ric. I hope Jimena ends up with Mario. They are so right for each other. So, did Lafont find the ED letter and Camila's cash or just the letter. He is such a sneaky snake. I wonder if Foreman's arrival in town will be good or bad for our Ric.
Permalink posted by : Saturday, February 23, 2008 at 10:26:00 PM EST
: Saturday, February 23, 2008 at 10:26:00 PM EST
Another of your great recaps Jardinera, thanks. I have to comment on the scene between Santi and Ofelia that you mentioned in your opening. When they embraced, for me that was the most emotionally touching scene so far in this novela. I was actually teary. The deeper meaning caused me to miss his hair completely. Everything else in the recap was "right on" and well said. I hope that Rick doesn't go kissing up to Cami quite yet. I want to see her hurt a little and swallow some of her annoying pride.
Permalink posted by : Saturday, February 23, 2008 at 11:19:00 PM EST
: Saturday, February 23, 2008 at 11:19:00 PM EST
I agree that Camila is being totally unfair to Ric, but I do disagree that her sleeping with Ric now is the same as when they first slept together. They had a marriage contract (which is now void) at the time which made them as good as married. Even then she felt guilty about it. Now they have nothing legally binding (even if they meant their vows) and who knows now long until Ric can use his real name. Clearly it is not just what people think but her own beliefs that are driving this, since no one would know at this point they aren't married.
Permalink posted by : Saturday, February 23, 2008 at 11:24:00 PM EST
: Saturday, February 23, 2008 at 11:24:00 PM EST
Jardinera, Your recap was just as exciting as the episode, thank you so much.
I thought it was odd they didn't show Cami having a reaction to "the news" about Santiago being Jorge's heir. She, more than anyone, would recognize how painful this connection would be to Santiago and Ofelia. She's wrapped up in her own drama understandably, but it just seemed they skipped a scene there.
I thought it was odd they didn't show Cami having a reaction to "the news" about Santiago being Jorge's heir. She, more than anyone, would recognize how painful this connection would be to Santiago and Ofelia. She's wrapped up in her own drama understandably, but it just seemed they skipped a scene there.
Jardinera, Great, great recap, so funny, I especially liked your asides to Carla. Sometimes that woman does need talkin' to.
Pirate Babe, you new Ric/Cam kiss icon is aaaaawwwesome! Good choice. Great choice!!
Sounds like we are in position to see some fireworks next week. I hope they don't stall too much and please someone reinsert Camila's brain for her. She's pretty but not pretty enough to go around with an empty head cavity, I mean no brain at all!
Santi did have his finest moment with his Mom in this capitulo. I'll give it a ten for touchingly real emotion.
And Jimena makes the most sense of all! The character with all brain all the time. I too hope to see her with Mario after he is slightly cleaned up and with a better attitude like she so deserves. I think the fire and passion between them will burst into red hot flames. FUN!
Pirate Babe, you new Ric/Cam kiss icon is aaaaawwwesome! Good choice. Great choice!!
Sounds like we are in position to see some fireworks next week. I hope they don't stall too much and please someone reinsert Camila's brain for her. She's pretty but not pretty enough to go around with an empty head cavity, I mean no brain at all!
Santi did have his finest moment with his Mom in this capitulo. I'll give it a ten for touchingly real emotion.
And Jimena makes the most sense of all! The character with all brain all the time. I too hope to see her with Mario after he is slightly cleaned up and with a better attitude like she so deserves. I think the fire and passion between them will burst into red hot flames. FUN!
Thank GOD for Jimena.
“My ancestors –and your ancestors—arrived here 200 years ago, and what do you think they were? Farm-workers, bakers, quick-thinkers. Many were thieves and murderers....” As opposed to the thieves and rapists you are NOW, dear Whorehey? Well aren't you special! LOL
You are much appreciated, Jardinera. :)
“My ancestors –and your ancestors—arrived here 200 years ago, and what do you think they were? Farm-workers, bakers, quick-thinkers. Many were thieves and murderers....” As opposed to the thieves and rapists you are NOW, dear Whorehey? Well aren't you special! LOL
You are much appreciated, Jardinera. :)
Permalink posted by : Sunday, February 24, 2008 at 6:27:00 AM EST
: Sunday, February 24, 2008 at 6:27:00 AM EST
Anon. Sat Feb 23, 11:24:00 PM --I don't disagree with you a bit. Cami ably presents the centuries' old dilemma when confronted with Western social and religious mores. Practically speaking, though, with Ric, it is fish or cut bait quite literally. She chose to fish in murky pirate waters and shouldn't be castigating nor second-guessing either herself or him.
Though I'm normally a conservative traditionalist, I also consider myself a pragmatist and have no patience I suppose with emotional equivocation. What's done is done and if she's pregnant now, then even more so should she realize it's in for a penny, in for a pound --or dime, and dollar these days. Live out the ruse because there really is no other sensible choice as Jimena has counselled her in some of the best scripted dialogue I've seen in a while. ;>)
Though I'm normally a conservative traditionalist, I also consider myself a pragmatist and have no patience I suppose with emotional equivocation. What's done is done and if she's pregnant now, then even more so should she realize it's in for a penny, in for a pound --or dime, and dollar these days. Live out the ruse because there really is no other sensible choice as Jimena has counselled her in some of the best scripted dialogue I've seen in a while. ;>)
Thanks, guys.
Pirate babe and Mad bess/susanlynn:
Yep, I was tempted to put that little gem of Shakespeare's also, but with a twist - ...and a thorn pricks just as sharp... Obviously we were all on the same wavelength. Jimena does impressively advocate Ric's position. In fact, I was thinking that Jimena is the ultimate politician/diplomat, but I didn't want to insult her motives.
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Anon. 11:19PM --I agree, there was a greater sort of solemnity to the moment in said retreat scene than I offered. I suppose I was not in the mood to deal with it, but my homage to Carla's use of Old World religious imagery hopefully made up for it in some way? Glad you liked my attempts overall, though. ;?)
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Cheryl, I'm with you re: Cami --"If I only had a brain, a heart, da noive......" LOL!
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ITA - bad, bad editing after GRita gives the news to kid-sis. It was like somebody FF'd without our permission. As for Whorejey coming from a long line of thieves and murderers, touchet about "rapists" so conveniently being overlooked in his family tree!
Pirate babe and Mad bess/susanlynn:
Yep, I was tempted to put that little gem of Shakespeare's also, but with a twist - ...and a thorn pricks just as sharp... Obviously we were all on the same wavelength. Jimena does impressively advocate Ric's position. In fact, I was thinking that Jimena is the ultimate politician/diplomat, but I didn't want to insult her motives.
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Anon. 11:19PM --I agree, there was a greater sort of solemnity to the moment in said retreat scene than I offered. I suppose I was not in the mood to deal with it, but my homage to Carla's use of Old World religious imagery hopefully made up for it in some way? Glad you liked my attempts overall, though. ;?)
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Cheryl, I'm with you re: Cami --"If I only had a brain, a heart, da noive......" LOL!
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ITA - bad, bad editing after GRita gives the news to kid-sis. It was like somebody FF'd without our permission. As for Whorejey coming from a long line of thieves and murderers, touchet about "rapists" so conveniently being overlooked in his family tree!
Jardinera, brilliant! And I think you are right about: "standing there, somehow reminiscent of Signorelli or Carduccio’s Jesus (–So that’s it, huh, Carla?)". Last night I rewatched the last segment of Alborada where Diego is lying wounded in bed, and I realized that she had him laid out EXACTLY like Manet's Dead Christ and the Angels. Now, I'm on the lookout for more cultural references in her work.
I think Cami is suffering from the typical regression that happens when grown children return home. She is witless and cowardly now, falling back on old expectations, unable to stand up for what is hers. I hope she grows a spine in a big hurry, because she's gonna need it once Buffy gets back to town with the carta.
I think Cami is suffering from the typical regression that happens when grown children return home. She is witless and cowardly now, falling back on old expectations, unable to stand up for what is hers. I hope she grows a spine in a big hurry, because she's gonna need it once Buffy gets back to town with the carta.
Thanks for the great recap.
I didn't take Manuela's conversation about her godmother's relative to be of any importance other than to explain the poorhouse. Just as Vasco's conversation w/ Paco was intended to clarify the role of people bound in servitude. Foreshadowing, I'm sure, some bad times ahead for our heroine.
Jimena is totally the voice of reason in this whole show. I, too, am hoping for some more fireworks between her and Mario---they are my two favorite characters.
I didn't take Manuela's conversation about her godmother's relative to be of any importance other than to explain the poorhouse. Just as Vasco's conversation w/ Paco was intended to clarify the role of people bound in servitude. Foreshadowing, I'm sure, some bad times ahead for our heroine.
Jimena is totally the voice of reason in this whole show. I, too, am hoping for some more fireworks between her and Mario---they are my two favorite characters.
Great recap jardinera! Thanks.
I was thinking that when out of the blue Manuela tells about her godmother's son-in-law (characters that we dont know) that it was a way of foreshadowing what could happen to the optimistic/head-in-the-sand Camila...to ratchet up our anxiety for her - although at this point we're all so mad at her for her idiocy toward Ric that it probably didn't have that effect. It only confused everyone and seemed like a non sequitor --unless these people are being introduced for some reason.
Jimena, as everyone agrees, is worth her weight in gold, even though she does have a propensity to spill the beans sometimes.
Santi really seemed Saintly with his Mom. It was a nice scene --but I think he will be facing many temptations on the road ahead when he becomes the recognized son of Don Jorge. (Incidentally, I like the actor who plays Jorge. Although he is amoral, a rapist, mean, etc., he manages to make the character very multi-dimensional. And I love his voice).
I was thinking that when out of the blue Manuela tells about her godmother's son-in-law (characters that we dont know) that it was a way of foreshadowing what could happen to the optimistic/head-in-the-sand Camila...to ratchet up our anxiety for her - although at this point we're all so mad at her for her idiocy toward Ric that it probably didn't have that effect. It only confused everyone and seemed like a non sequitor --unless these people are being introduced for some reason.
Jimena, as everyone agrees, is worth her weight in gold, even though she does have a propensity to spill the beans sometimes.
Santi really seemed Saintly with his Mom. It was a nice scene --but I think he will be facing many temptations on the road ahead when he becomes the recognized son of Don Jorge. (Incidentally, I like the actor who plays Jorge. Although he is amoral, a rapist, mean, etc., he manages to make the character very multi-dimensional. And I love his voice).
Permalink posted by : Sunday, February 24, 2008 at 10:57:00 AM EST
: Sunday, February 24, 2008 at 10:57:00 AM EST
The best use Cami has made of her fortune was buying the freedom of Ascanio, Jimena and Claudio. Aside from the humanitarian reasons, Jimena and Ascanio have literally been worth their weight in gold to her. And I predict Claudio will also play a pivotal role in her life.
Maybe this has been mentioned before, but was brand new information for me...for those of you who also watch Guapos, did you know that the actor playing Bernabe in Pasion is the same one who plays Hugo on Guapos? I can't believe I didn't recognize those lips right away!
Cathy: Although I only catch a couple of minutes of Guapos right before Pasion comes on, I noticed Barnabe was Hugo, too. He cleans up pretty nicely! LOL!
Most, most excellent recap, Cuzzin Dreaded Lucy Cash!! It was great to have an early recap and so full of wit. You really nailed this one, it would take pages to comment on all your cleverness.
The 'single raindrop in Cami's desert of dense' continues, while Jimena is the true heroine. As in all things, our attitudes and beliefs drive us. Cami definately needs an attitude adjustment, along with some spine growth...
jb-Iron Jack Cash
The 'single raindrop in Cami's desert of dense' continues, while Jimena is the true heroine. As in all things, our attitudes and beliefs drive us. Cami definately needs an attitude adjustment, along with some spine growth...
jb-Iron Jack Cash
Permalink posted by : Sunday, February 24, 2008 at 12:01:00 PM EST
: Sunday, February 24, 2008 at 12:01:00 PM EST
Oh Jardinera, thanks for the allusions to Signorelli's and Carduccio’s exquisite works. I've just spent time scrolling through web images of lovely curly headed guys... wishing I could live in Italy and Spain all the time to see the real work more frequently.
Though I must confess that some prosaic part of me wants to voice over the Santi/Ofelia conversation with one of them saying, "think of this, we'll be able to afford REALLY good shampoo if we make nice, nice with wolfman."
Though I must confess that some prosaic part of me wants to voice over the Santi/Ofelia conversation with one of them saying, "think of this, we'll be able to afford REALLY good shampoo if we make nice, nice with wolfman."
Ah Shakespeare. This is what Camila needs to tell herself:
'Tis but thy name that is my enemy;
Thou art thyself, though not a Salamanca.
What's Salamanca? it is nor hand, nor foot,
Nor arm, nor face, nor any other part
Belonging to a man. O, be some other name!
What's in a name? that which we call a rose
By any other name would smell as sweet;
So Ricardo would, were he not Ricardo call'd,
Retain that dear perfection which he owes
Without that title. Ricardo, doff thy name,
And for that name which is no part of thee
Take all myself.
Maybe Camila will see the error of her ways in once again making a rash and hasty decision. Jimena is who you want to have in your corner because she's practical and cuts through all the crap LOL and gets to the point. I too hope that Jimena and Mario will eventually get together. They both are more alike than they realize.
'Tis but thy name that is my enemy;
Thou art thyself, though not a Salamanca.
What's Salamanca? it is nor hand, nor foot,
Nor arm, nor face, nor any other part
Belonging to a man. O, be some other name!
What's in a name? that which we call a rose
By any other name would smell as sweet;
So Ricardo would, were he not Ricardo call'd,
Retain that dear perfection which he owes
Without that title. Ricardo, doff thy name,
And for that name which is no part of thee
Take all myself.
Maybe Camila will see the error of her ways in once again making a rash and hasty decision. Jimena is who you want to have in your corner because she's practical and cuts through all the crap LOL and gets to the point. I too hope that Jimena and Mario will eventually get together. They both are more alike than they realize.
I have been looking at Jorge since the very beginning and thinking that he reminded me someone. [Maybe it's just something I do...Old photos of my dad remind me of Fernado.] Then, the other night I had an epiphany,,,Weird Al Yankoweiz...no, really, take another look at Jorge...he's an earlier rendition of Weird Al. I wonder if Jorge can sing and do parodies. I love all these literary and srt references. I'm hoping that Lafont's final scene is a shout out to David's Marat portrait [aka Dead in a Bathtub]. That painting has always fascinated me...and it would be a fitting end to old Snake-eyes...dead in a tub. And , I,too, noticed that the actor playing Bernebe was also in Guaypos [which I cannot get interested in because the lead actress makes me crazy.] To Bernebe : Happy trails to you. ..You were in way over your head , hombre. Jardinera~~~Like you, I might describe myself as a pragmatic conservative traditionalist [who gets more pragmatic and less conservative and traditional as time passes]. I am more like Jimena than any other character in this novela. Jimena also reminds me a lot of my high school friend Mary Jane. She was overly dramatic, and she never cared what other people thought and could not keep her mouth shut, but...I never vaulted the horse in gym class unless Janie was my spotter because she NEVER let me fall. Camila is fortunate to have Jimena as her spotter.
Permalink posted by : Sunday, February 24, 2008 at 1:48:00 PM EST
: Sunday, February 24, 2008 at 1:48:00 PM EST
I don't watch this show but I read the recaps and all the blogs 'cause you all are a wonderful, witty, literate bunch...funny, informative and irreplaceable.
I watch those shows that most of you can't stand...Juan and Guapos, simply because I can't handle the awfulness of the late night dramas (although some awfully wicked stuff has been happening on Guapos lately...I may have to "bail" there too.
I watch those shows that most of you can't stand...Juan and Guapos, simply because I can't handle the awfulness of the late night dramas (although some awfully wicked stuff has been happening on Guapos lately...I may have to "bail" there too.
thank you for the well detailed recap jardinera. you caught a lot of the details in the conversations I had a difficult time understanding.
J.R. :)
J.R. :)
Wow, I have not gotten a good look at Bernabe yet--I don't get to watch this every day. I will post this news on the Guapos site too!
Nina K. I don't think you're going to get a chance to get a good look at Bernabe. He's toast. Bouffy slit his throat on Friday and I doubt we'll see him again, unless of course it's a flashback. There are two quick views of him in the opening credits where he is sporting an adorable flip with bangs that I would have killed for in high school. Look for the guy loading sacks onto a cart
And speaking of hairdos (yes, I'm obssessed) did any one notice that LaBouffant wasn't wearing his traditional mohawk down the forehead for once. He's not a bad looking man, once you get past the evil stare.
Jardinera, thanks for replying to my post. I agree with you that Cami really doesn't have a choice at this point and should just live out the ruse. She's so good at denial, she could just deny that the marriage is invalid and happily be married to Ric :-)
I am a conservative traditionalist, but I don't think I'm very practical. I'm good at denial and bad at decision making, which is probably why I relate to Cami too much :-) I do agree that Cami should be criticized for not thinking and being unfair to Ric after all he has done for her, but I don't think someone should be put down for their beliefs.
Anon. Sat Feb 23, 11:24:00 PM
I am a conservative traditionalist, but I don't think I'm very practical. I'm good at denial and bad at decision making, which is probably why I relate to Cami too much :-) I do agree that Cami should be criticized for not thinking and being unfair to Ric after all he has done for her, but I don't think someone should be put down for their beliefs.
Anon. Sat Feb 23, 11:24:00 PM
Permalink posted by : Sunday, February 24, 2008 at 5:31:00 PM EST
: Sunday, February 24, 2008 at 5:31:00 PM EST
Anon. 11:24PM Thanks for responding. It is not my intention to put anybody's beliefs down, nor to be polemic, only to relay what I interpret as both sides of the storyline and possible/probable responses in a light-hearted manner. That hopefully will give rise to a few thoughtful comments like yours on the blog afterward. Many of us relate to Cami's situation and appreciate the dilemma. That obviously makes for a good novela whatever side we might take on an issue. Perhaps if I saw her pre-marital sex as a result of hypocritical, sinful lust as opposed to star-crossed heart-felt love, who knows how I would have dealt with that scene. I could have put in a remark about G-d forgiving sinners who recognize their sin or G-d forgiving sinning for a greater good or G-d helping those who help themselves when it means one's survival is the issue. It just seems/ed too heavy-handed, moralistic and SERIOUS to get into.
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Jardinera, I know, I'm probably taking this show (and the recaps) way too seriously :-) I've just seen many comments now (here and elsewhere) about Cami being hypocritical or that she shouldn't have a problem with sleeping with Ric. I guess I just finally reached the point where I needed to defend her some.
Anon. Sat Feb 23, 11:24:00 PM
Anon. Sat Feb 23, 11:24:00 PM
Permalink posted by : Sunday, February 24, 2008 at 7:20:00 PM EST
: Sunday, February 24, 2008 at 7:20:00 PM EST
Can anyone tell me the name and author of the song that plays in the beginning. I looked up Pasión Novela CD and it plays a different song.
Ret.
Ret.
Permalink posted by : Sunday, February 24, 2008 at 8:24:00 PM EST
: Sunday, February 24, 2008 at 8:24:00 PM EST
Well, I do feel that Cami is being a bit goofy. Her marriage is still valid in the eyes of the Church, as far as I know. It's just not legal.
That seems to be the part she's getting hung up on - the part that IS about what other people will think. And this would mostly be people who are strangers, because I don't think her family would disapprove if they knew the whole story. (Grita doesn't count since nobody cares what she thinks!)
That seems to be the part she's getting hung up on - the part that IS about what other people will think. And this would mostly be people who are strangers, because I don't think her family would disapprove if they knew the whole story. (Grita doesn't count since nobody cares what she thinks!)
Jardinera: Marvelous, as usual.
And to Agnes - right on with "witless" - the perfect description of Cami at this point. Love it.
From lower Ala
And to Agnes - right on with "witless" - the perfect description of Cami at this point. Love it.
From lower Ala
Ret: Sarah Brightman & Fernando Lima sing the title song. You can look up the CD on any of the on-line book chains or Google it.
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Julie: LOL! GRita is one poor soul who does need somebody to defend her! It just ain't gonna be me. I was wondering how someone would actually go about that challenge.
--But, yeah. I gotta say that somewhere I thought I read a post that in the eyes of the Church they would be married. I have no clue there. If so, then
the characters keep forgetting to make that distinction and it would be a great moral defense somewhere down the storyline. If it gets that far I could foresee Jorge being excommunicated for forcing the woman to break the laws of man in order to escape a sinful activity that was now outlawed by The Church or something. Then the government, when they gave Ric his pardon/s could possibly make the marriage retroactive. I'm no telenovela writer, though, so it probably is too dopey to even consider.
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Julie: LOL! GRita is one poor soul who does need somebody to defend her! It just ain't gonna be me. I was wondering how someone would actually go about that challenge.
--But, yeah. I gotta say that somewhere I thought I read a post that in the eyes of the Church they would be married. I have no clue there. If so, then
the characters keep forgetting to make that distinction and it would be a great moral defense somewhere down the storyline. If it gets that far I could foresee Jorge being excommunicated for forcing the woman to break the laws of man in order to escape a sinful activity that was now outlawed by The Church or something. Then the government, when they gave Ric his pardon/s could possibly make the marriage retroactive. I'm no telenovela writer, though, so it probably is too dopey to even consider.
Anon. Sat Feb 23, 11:24:00 PM No problema. You've offered me a challenge and though I can't promise you anything, tomorrow night I do my regular recap. I'll see if I am up to it or not!
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jardinera - I looked them up and I was able to hear the song pasion, but it isn't the same one that sarah b and fernando L are singing, unless it is one of the other songs on the CD Pasion?? I had said "the beginning" before. I meant at the end of the novela.
Permalink posted by : Sunday, February 24, 2008 at 9:30:00 PM EST
: Sunday, February 24, 2008 at 9:30:00 PM EST
Cami drowning her sorrows over Ric (literally) on the stairwell...priceless. Gals who hasn't done that at least once over a guy?
I just knew Jimena would say "enough" and work her magic to get Ric & Cami back together. If it works, Ric will need to repay her in getting her & Mario together.
I loved how Jorge explained to Ursula that their anscestors came from humble beginnings and how Daddy won't help her if she started stepping out on her hubby & got caught (yes!). Amazing how great she thought Santi was...until she found out he was blood relations. Oh how she side stepped the Vasco issue. Daddy is definitely on to Ursula.
Next week is gonna be good!!!
I just knew Jimena would say "enough" and work her magic to get Ric & Cami back together. If it works, Ric will need to repay her in getting her & Mario together.
I loved how Jorge explained to Ursula that their anscestors came from humble beginnings and how Daddy won't help her if she started stepping out on her hubby & got caught (yes!). Amazing how great she thought Santi was...until she found out he was blood relations. Oh how she side stepped the Vasco issue. Daddy is definitely on to Ursula.
Next week is gonna be good!!!
Permalink posted by : Sunday, February 24, 2008 at 10:22:00 PM EST
: Sunday, February 24, 2008 at 10:22:00 PM EST
As for marrying under an assumed name, in Amor Real, Manuel lost his right to the name Fuentes Guerra when his ''cousin'' contested his father's will and his mother was forced to say that she had lied about his paternity. Later, after he had kidnapped Matilde from her engagement party and took her to the convent , the mother superior [our own Tia Fran] told Adolfo Solis [who was in hot pursuit] that in the eyes of the church, two people are married, regardless of the names used. Manuel eventually got his name back and the marriage was valid again. So, are Ric and Camila still legitimately married in the eyes of the church?? And what would have been more important in that era, the religious aspect of marriage or the civil aspect??? I had a student who was a priest. Maybe I should email Father Bassim and ask his opinion !!! However, he is not from Mexico.
Permalink posted by : Sunday, February 24, 2008 at 10:32:00 PM EST
: Sunday, February 24, 2008 at 10:32:00 PM EST
Jardinera - I wasn't really trying to challenge you, but if it makes you happy :-)
I know a marriage is still valid as far as the church is concerned if a name changes after the marriage, like in CS and AR, but I didn't think a marriage is valid if a false name was used at the start. If it is still valid for the church, then that really weakens my argument for Cami.
Anon. Sat Feb 23, 11:24:00 PM
I know a marriage is still valid as far as the church is concerned if a name changes after the marriage, like in CS and AR, but I didn't think a marriage is valid if a false name was used at the start. If it is still valid for the church, then that really weakens my argument for Cami.
Anon. Sat Feb 23, 11:24:00 PM
Permalink posted by : Sunday, February 24, 2008 at 10:35:00 PM EST
: Sunday, February 24, 2008 at 10:35:00 PM EST
I love watching Camila and Jimena together. In earlier episodes they were like a couple of teenagers giggling over the cute boys. Now ... they sit getting sloshed over the same cute boy!
Permalink posted by : Monday, February 25, 2008 at 8:49:00 AM EST
: Monday, February 25, 2008 at 8:49:00 AM EST
I honestly don't know. My understanding is that the church is marrying their souls, not their names. But I guess that's irrelevant, if Camila feels differently.
Anonymous looking for the song -- If you look on Sarah Brightman's web site, you will find a video of the Pasion theme song. She has a new CD out called "Symphony" that includes the duet with Fernando Lima. He also has a CD out, called "Pasion" which includes the song. It was written by Jorge Avendano, who has written music for many telenovelas.
Permalink posted by : Monday, February 25, 2008 at 10:24:00 AM EST
: Monday, February 25, 2008 at 10:24:00 AM EST
One more thing on the song -- The music at the beginning and at the end are different parts of the same song.
Permalink posted by : Monday, February 25, 2008 at 10:27:00 AM EST
: Monday, February 25, 2008 at 10:27:00 AM EST
Jardinera - thank you so much for taking Friday's show for me, what a great recap.
Seeing Camila get all bent out of shape so completely and so quickly reminds me yet again why I have liked this show so much - most shows have that happening EVERY WEEK and it's annoying. Hopefully they'll just get back together in a hurry and we can move on to the fun stuff, like Santiago being Jorge's son, midnight raids, Claudio's revenge, etc.
Seeing Camila get all bent out of shape so completely and so quickly reminds me yet again why I have liked this show so much - most shows have that happening EVERY WEEK and it's annoying. Hopefully they'll just get back together in a hurry and we can move on to the fun stuff, like Santiago being Jorge's son, midnight raids, Claudio's revenge, etc.
Oh and on people looking like someone else - Hernan looks like David Schwimmer, more specifically like Ross in that episode where they see an old video of him when he was in college and had curly hair and a horrible moustache.
Ferro~~~I agree Hernan does resemble young Ross on Friends, and I also see shades of Borat there, too.
Permalink posted by : Monday, February 25, 2008 at 5:17:00 PM EST
: Monday, February 25, 2008 at 5:17:00 PM EST
Excellent recap! For those of us who are trying to learn the language, I noticed that after Don Jorge was rising from his visit with Jimena and Cami, he said some pleasantry and Cami replied "igualamente". I subscribe to the Spanish Word of the Day:
igualmente, adverb:
the same to you
The Spanish word igualmente is often used in conversation to wish somebody the same thing that they are wishing you. It is usually translated in this context as the same to you.
¡Feliz Navidad! - Gracias, igualmente..
Merry Christmas! - Thanks, the same to you.
Coo! I word I understood and saw in action. (It doesn't take much to excite me)
Barbara in Pembroke, MA
igualmente, adverb:
the same to you
The Spanish word igualmente is often used in conversation to wish somebody the same thing that they are wishing you. It is usually translated in this context as the same to you.
¡Feliz Navidad! - Gracias, igualmente..
Merry Christmas! - Thanks, the same to you.
Coo! I word I understood and saw in action. (It doesn't take much to excite me)
Barbara in Pembroke, MA
Permalink posted by : Monday, February 25, 2008 at 5:37:00 PM EST
: Monday, February 25, 2008 at 5:37:00 PM EST
Hey, Ferro: de nada. je je. --I am looking forward to lots more action myself. 'Course, I think we all got our peso's worth with that scene of Bernabe lying there all bloody with his throat in matching pieces...... That was a visual that took me by surprise since American t.v. has shied away from bloody realism for the past couple of decades.
Thank you everyone for the info on the song sung at the end of the novela and of it being part of the same song. I watch the two singing at the end, with the earphones on and singing their hearts out. It sounds so beautiful. Ret
Permalink posted by : Monday, February 25, 2008 at 7:32:00 PM EST
: Monday, February 25, 2008 at 7:32:00 PM EST
Jardinera, that was a terrific recap, followed with many juicy comments.
Don Jorge does look like Weird Al, which makes it harder to take him seriously. I agree that the actor is doing a good job at making him multi-dimensional and not just a caricature.
I'm very taken with the suggestion for LaFont to end up as Marat Dead in the Bath. He who stabs by the stiletto shall die by the stiletto, or some such poetic justice. LaFont definitely tips the evil/creepy scale farther than Don Jorge. If Lisa would marry him and combine her talents with his, they would be a scary couple.
La Paloma
Don Jorge does look like Weird Al, which makes it harder to take him seriously. I agree that the actor is doing a good job at making him multi-dimensional and not just a caricature.
I'm very taken with the suggestion for LaFont to end up as Marat Dead in the Bath. He who stabs by the stiletto shall die by the stiletto, or some such poetic justice. LaFont definitely tips the evil/creepy scale farther than Don Jorge. If Lisa would marry him and combine her talents with his, they would be a scary couple.
La Paloma
Permalink posted by : Monday, February 25, 2008 at 7:46:00 PM EST
: Monday, February 25, 2008 at 7:46:00 PM EST
Jardinera/Cousin dreaded lucy cash- as always, a wonderful recap with your fabulous sense of humor! Oh, how I wish I could turn a phrase like you do. Meanwhile, I’ll bask in reading yours. Thanks!
“greasy goldilocks” ROTFL! It wasn’t just me, then, who was totally revolted by this sight! Ew, take a BATH, Santiago.
““Pardon me for being so abrupt, but it seems that Santiago is Don Jorge’s son.” (I’d say you were more obtuse than abrupt, Rita dear.)” Or, she could be cold and calculating. Like when she tore up the letter from Camila and buried it. That probably wasn’t obtuse, and I wondered if this little faux pas fell into the cold and calculating category. Oh, my goodness, Jardinera—your alliteration is infectious! But as you point out a little later, she is really clueless when she gets dissed. Perhaps she is deliberately obtuse.
And so much for keeping this under wraps now that Ramona has overheard it. Like everything else in SF, it’s on the coconut wireless now (a Hawaii term).
“(What a visual!) Cami can’t stand it any longer.” LOL! You have to love Jimena’s cognitive behavioral therapy with Cami. It works every time, too. All she has to do is describe reality and Cami gets the point and caves.
“Ric smiles that gorgeous smile of his again, though it’s a bit more restrained this time, ‘cause it is obvious Cami’s ‘tude is getting to him--not to mention the rest of us.” ROTFL! He has a lot of restraint not to just smack her like most other hubbies of that era would have.
Of COURSE Buffy had to get to Bernie before Mario could find the boy. Otherwise, it would all be over next week. Now Cami is going to be a slave again and they’ll be separated and Ric is going to have to bail her out, right? Sheesh.
Fun comments from everyone on this, too!
Jeanne
“greasy goldilocks” ROTFL! It wasn’t just me, then, who was totally revolted by this sight! Ew, take a BATH, Santiago.
““Pardon me for being so abrupt, but it seems that Santiago is Don Jorge’s son.” (I’d say you were more obtuse than abrupt, Rita dear.)” Or, she could be cold and calculating. Like when she tore up the letter from Camila and buried it. That probably wasn’t obtuse, and I wondered if this little faux pas fell into the cold and calculating category. Oh, my goodness, Jardinera—your alliteration is infectious! But as you point out a little later, she is really clueless when she gets dissed. Perhaps she is deliberately obtuse.
And so much for keeping this under wraps now that Ramona has overheard it. Like everything else in SF, it’s on the coconut wireless now (a Hawaii term).
“(What a visual!) Cami can’t stand it any longer.” LOL! You have to love Jimena’s cognitive behavioral therapy with Cami. It works every time, too. All she has to do is describe reality and Cami gets the point and caves.
“Ric smiles that gorgeous smile of his again, though it’s a bit more restrained this time, ‘cause it is obvious Cami’s ‘tude is getting to him--not to mention the rest of us.” ROTFL! He has a lot of restraint not to just smack her like most other hubbies of that era would have.
Of COURSE Buffy had to get to Bernie before Mario could find the boy. Otherwise, it would all be over next week. Now Cami is going to be a slave again and they’ll be separated and Ric is going to have to bail her out, right? Sheesh.
Fun comments from everyone on this, too!
Jeanne
This reminded me of the American soaps when they never talk about a certain subject that much (i.e. the slave situation) but then all of a sudden they're talking about it alot - it's always the precursor so something not good.
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: Tuesday, February 26, 2008 at 7:39:00 PM EST
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