Friday, March 21, 2008
Pasion Friday - can someone fill in?
I hate to do this so late, but can anyone take Friday's recap for me? I'm still almost the whole week behind on watching and there is no hope in sight. In fact, does anyone want to take over my Friday spot for the remainder of the run of Pasion? The way things have been lately (not the family deaths, everything else) I think recapping is going to be squeezed out of my schedule for a while. Hopefully I can jump back on board sometime before long. Thanks in advance.
EDIT - Margarita has stepped up with an amazing (since it was from memory!) recap - Thank you Margarita! Also, Cheryl has volunteered to take over Fridays for the rest of Pasion. Thank you Cheryl! Hope to keep seeing you all here and soon again as a recapper.
Episode 71LP meets with Pablo and asks if he's wondered about his mother. He asks if she knows her, and LP grabs his seashell charm and blows on it. Pablo realizes she's his mom, pulls away and runs out of the room nearly running Jim over. Jim asks LP who she is and she says nobody and also runs out. Jim runs after Pablo (now on his horse) and wants to know what's up. Pablo says she's nobody to him, just the one who gave birth to him.
Santi and Ascanio argue about the fact that Ric is not really LdC and is in fact the Dread Parent Antillano. Santi's pissed because Cami's marriage isn't valid and he feels Ric took advantage of her. Ascanio tells him Cami always knew he was a pirate and knows the marriage isn't valid, but she doesn't care because she loves him. Santi thinks he must have forced her or threatened or bewitched her. Ascanio tells him that Ric didn't become a pirate by choice and that things are not just black and white. He accuses Santi of speaking out of jealousy and tells him he's being a hypocrite for not allowing for the possibility that Ric can be a good man that loves Cami.
LP and her buddy Mag (Magdalena) are walking back to the inn and Mag asks what the scoop is with Pablo. LP says it's none of her beeswax. Mag says he's cute and LP tells her he's not for her. They run into Ines and LP asks if she's local and if she knows Cami. Ines tells her Cami's her SIL and asks how she knows her. LP says she met her on the way and brought her over and mentions she's married to "El Antillano." Ines looks puzzled and LP realized she just screwed up. She covers by saying she calls Ric that 'cause he's from the Antilles. Ines tells her that Cami's in jail.
Ascanio gets back to SF by himself. Ines asks why he's not on the cart with Santi and he explains he and Santi had a fight. He asks about Cami and is told she's in jail.
Santi arrives home and tells Ofi that Ric is not LdC, but Salamanca, that he's a pirate, and that the marriage's not valid. Any louder and they would have heard him in the next town.
LP and Mag arrive back at the inn and Chino asks if she saw her son (so much for keeping Mag out of the loop). LP says he rejected her as expected. He tells her she needs to be patient and she replies she has no patience. She also tells him she stuck her foot in it and let it slip to one of Cami's relatives that Ric is El Antillano. She covered, but she's not sure it worked. Al arrives with some sort of permit to make the contraband look legit. He tells Chino they'd like to do all the distribution and Chino tells him they prefer the way things are.
Rita asks Ofi why Santi didn't stick around and wait for her. Ofi tells her she wasn't around so he changed and left. Rita asks where and Ofi says jail. Rita's pissed he went to see Cami and the baby cries. Ofi takes the baby and tells Rita once again how sorry she is she encouraged the marriage, that there's something sick about the way she talks about her sister, and that she doesn't deserve the child God sent her! Ouch!
Al, Lis, and Fran meet with Don E about the will. Don E tells her he's ruled in her favor and asks her to sign Cami's house arrest papers. Lis asks where Cami will stay and Don E says Justo's. Lis says no way, she might run away. She has to stay with me. Besides, she's gonna be my serf anyway. Nana hears this and goes to give Mani the chisme.
Ines and Ascanio discuss that LP called Ric El Antillano. Ines didn't buy the cover. Ascanio realizes it's hit the fan and decides to spill it all.
Santi's in jail and tells Cami that Ric's a pirate, etc. Cami's impactada and asks how he knows. He's shocked she knew and she says she loves him. He says he made her his ramera and Cami slaps him and says nobody, especially him, has a right to call her that. She reminds him that he wanted to make her his mistress and he reminds her it never actually happened. She says yeah, 'cause Ric stopped it.
Justo meets with Vasco (at some point Ines talked to Justo about forgiving Vasco) and they have a good cry. Vasco tells him he wants to change and that he misses Ines. They see Ursu and Uriel riding off. Justo agrees to let Vasco come home.
Ofi is feeling her granddaughter's back and she and her assistant talk about something I couldn't understand. I think the baby has a rash. Her assistant leaves and Ines comes in and they discuss Cami's situation and Rita says Cami already knew he was a pirate. Rita overhears and they tell her it's none of her business. They let it slip that it's regarding Cami and Rita becomes very interested.
Ric and Mario are in a canoe on their way to Chez Foreman. Mario makes another attempt to talk Ric out of it and Ric says he needs to help Cami.
Cami's clan (sans Rita of course) gather around the kitchen table about Ric. Justo can't believe Ric's a pirate, he seemed so nice. Santi wants to turn him in and Vasco tells him that he's talking out of jealousy. They yell at each other for a while and Justo tells them to knock it off. He tells them he wants no scandal, but once Ric comes back with the money, they will tell him to go away. Vasco and Santi argue about whether or not Cami should by allowed to leave with him. Vasco runs out with Ines closely behind.
Ric talks to Foreman and asks for money. Foreman wants to know if Ric's been making deals with his godfather. Ric reminds him that piracy's dying. They agree that Foreman will lend him the money, but Ric, his boats, and his men, have to do one final job.
Vasco and Ines visit Cami and tell her that Santi's got his panties in a wad. They are worried he'll turn in Ric, but are hoping he'll listen to Justo's wish to avoid further scandal. Cami tells them to send Santi over so she can talk him out of it. She also wants them to tell Jim and Ascanio that their freedom was part of the deal in Ric's payment plan, so they don't have to worry about being serfs. Just then Don E walks in and tells her he's ruled for Lis, but she'll go on house arrest tomorrow or so. Cami's glad to be going to her dad's, but Don E says not so fast, you're going to Lis! Cami's crushed and Ines curses Lis.
Santi plays with his baby and Rita asks if he knows what's up between Ric and pirates. He says he knows nothing. She says Cami was taken by pirates, so maybe she hooked up with one...Santi's disgusted and says he has to get to work.
Back on the Salamandra, Mario tells Ric he got his money, but this last gig might actually get him killed. He says if so, he hopes Cami's pregnant so she'll have a child to make her happy.
Santi runs into Jorge who asks about his biz and his leg. They discuss Cami and Jorge mentions in passing that there are still things he can do for Cami, if Santi asks...
Back in the cell, Cami begs Santi not turn Ric in. She promises she'll send him away for ever if Santi won't turn him in. Santi agrees, as long as Ric comes through.
Al toasts with Lis for her inheritance and asks if they can now sign their marriage contract. Lis says ok, but she wants to move to Cami's house since that's part of her payment. Al wants to know why and Lis says now that they'll be engaged, she doesn't want people to say they're living as husband and wife before the wedding. Al agrees, and say ok: marriage contract next week, and wedding as soon as the announcements are run. Lis says no problem. She probably figures she'll have her money by then and can skip town. Little does she know that Al will never let her get away with it.
Next week: Cami goes to work for Lis, and is treated like hell.
Stuff's a little out of order, but I think I hit everything. Feel free to fit in if I missed anything. - Margarita
EDIT - Margarita has stepped up with an amazing (since it was from memory!) recap - Thank you Margarita! Also, Cheryl has volunteered to take over Fridays for the rest of Pasion. Thank you Cheryl! Hope to keep seeing you all here and soon again as a recapper.
Episode 71LP meets with Pablo and asks if he's wondered about his mother. He asks if she knows her, and LP grabs his seashell charm and blows on it. Pablo realizes she's his mom, pulls away and runs out of the room nearly running Jim over. Jim asks LP who she is and she says nobody and also runs out. Jim runs after Pablo (now on his horse) and wants to know what's up. Pablo says she's nobody to him, just the one who gave birth to him.
Santi and Ascanio argue about the fact that Ric is not really LdC and is in fact the Dread Parent Antillano. Santi's pissed because Cami's marriage isn't valid and he feels Ric took advantage of her. Ascanio tells him Cami always knew he was a pirate and knows the marriage isn't valid, but she doesn't care because she loves him. Santi thinks he must have forced her or threatened or bewitched her. Ascanio tells him that Ric didn't become a pirate by choice and that things are not just black and white. He accuses Santi of speaking out of jealousy and tells him he's being a hypocrite for not allowing for the possibility that Ric can be a good man that loves Cami.
LP and her buddy Mag (Magdalena) are walking back to the inn and Mag asks what the scoop is with Pablo. LP says it's none of her beeswax. Mag says he's cute and LP tells her he's not for her. They run into Ines and LP asks if she's local and if she knows Cami. Ines tells her Cami's her SIL and asks how she knows her. LP says she met her on the way and brought her over and mentions she's married to "El Antillano." Ines looks puzzled and LP realized she just screwed up. She covers by saying she calls Ric that 'cause he's from the Antilles. Ines tells her that Cami's in jail.
Ascanio gets back to SF by himself. Ines asks why he's not on the cart with Santi and he explains he and Santi had a fight. He asks about Cami and is told she's in jail.
Santi arrives home and tells Ofi that Ric is not LdC, but Salamanca, that he's a pirate, and that the marriage's not valid. Any louder and they would have heard him in the next town.
LP and Mag arrive back at the inn and Chino asks if she saw her son (so much for keeping Mag out of the loop). LP says he rejected her as expected. He tells her she needs to be patient and she replies she has no patience. She also tells him she stuck her foot in it and let it slip to one of Cami's relatives that Ric is El Antillano. She covered, but she's not sure it worked. Al arrives with some sort of permit to make the contraband look legit. He tells Chino they'd like to do all the distribution and Chino tells him they prefer the way things are.
Rita asks Ofi why Santi didn't stick around and wait for her. Ofi tells her she wasn't around so he changed and left. Rita asks where and Ofi says jail. Rita's pissed he went to see Cami and the baby cries. Ofi takes the baby and tells Rita once again how sorry she is she encouraged the marriage, that there's something sick about the way she talks about her sister, and that she doesn't deserve the child God sent her! Ouch!
Al, Lis, and Fran meet with Don E about the will. Don E tells her he's ruled in her favor and asks her to sign Cami's house arrest papers. Lis asks where Cami will stay and Don E says Justo's. Lis says no way, she might run away. She has to stay with me. Besides, she's gonna be my serf anyway. Nana hears this and goes to give Mani the chisme.
Ines and Ascanio discuss that LP called Ric El Antillano. Ines didn't buy the cover. Ascanio realizes it's hit the fan and decides to spill it all.
Santi's in jail and tells Cami that Ric's a pirate, etc. Cami's impactada and asks how he knows. He's shocked she knew and she says she loves him. He says he made her his ramera and Cami slaps him and says nobody, especially him, has a right to call her that. She reminds him that he wanted to make her his mistress and he reminds her it never actually happened. She says yeah, 'cause Ric stopped it.
Justo meets with Vasco (at some point Ines talked to Justo about forgiving Vasco) and they have a good cry. Vasco tells him he wants to change and that he misses Ines. They see Ursu and Uriel riding off. Justo agrees to let Vasco come home.
Ofi is feeling her granddaughter's back and she and her assistant talk about something I couldn't understand. I think the baby has a rash. Her assistant leaves and Ines comes in and they discuss Cami's situation and Rita says Cami already knew he was a pirate. Rita overhears and they tell her it's none of her business. They let it slip that it's regarding Cami and Rita becomes very interested.
Ric and Mario are in a canoe on their way to Chez Foreman. Mario makes another attempt to talk Ric out of it and Ric says he needs to help Cami.
Cami's clan (sans Rita of course) gather around the kitchen table about Ric. Justo can't believe Ric's a pirate, he seemed so nice. Santi wants to turn him in and Vasco tells him that he's talking out of jealousy. They yell at each other for a while and Justo tells them to knock it off. He tells them he wants no scandal, but once Ric comes back with the money, they will tell him to go away. Vasco and Santi argue about whether or not Cami should by allowed to leave with him. Vasco runs out with Ines closely behind.
Ric talks to Foreman and asks for money. Foreman wants to know if Ric's been making deals with his godfather. Ric reminds him that piracy's dying. They agree that Foreman will lend him the money, but Ric, his boats, and his men, have to do one final job.
Vasco and Ines visit Cami and tell her that Santi's got his panties in a wad. They are worried he'll turn in Ric, but are hoping he'll listen to Justo's wish to avoid further scandal. Cami tells them to send Santi over so she can talk him out of it. She also wants them to tell Jim and Ascanio that their freedom was part of the deal in Ric's payment plan, so they don't have to worry about being serfs. Just then Don E walks in and tells her he's ruled for Lis, but she'll go on house arrest tomorrow or so. Cami's glad to be going to her dad's, but Don E says not so fast, you're going to Lis! Cami's crushed and Ines curses Lis.
Santi plays with his baby and Rita asks if he knows what's up between Ric and pirates. He says he knows nothing. She says Cami was taken by pirates, so maybe she hooked up with one...Santi's disgusted and says he has to get to work.
Back on the Salamandra, Mario tells Ric he got his money, but this last gig might actually get him killed. He says if so, he hopes Cami's pregnant so she'll have a child to make her happy.
Santi runs into Jorge who asks about his biz and his leg. They discuss Cami and Jorge mentions in passing that there are still things he can do for Cami, if Santi asks...
Back in the cell, Cami begs Santi not turn Ric in. She promises she'll send him away for ever if Santi won't turn him in. Santi agrees, as long as Ric comes through.
Al toasts with Lis for her inheritance and asks if they can now sign their marriage contract. Lis says ok, but she wants to move to Cami's house since that's part of her payment. Al wants to know why and Lis says now that they'll be engaged, she doesn't want people to say they're living as husband and wife before the wedding. Al agrees, and say ok: marriage contract next week, and wedding as soon as the announcements are run. Lis says no problem. She probably figures she'll have her money by then and can skip town. Little does she know that Al will never let her get away with it.
Next week: Cami goes to work for Lis, and is treated like hell.
Stuff's a little out of order, but I think I hit everything. Feel free to fit in if I missed anything. - Margarita
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I am so sorry to hear this Chris! And that things are so busy for you (and not in a good way). I think I speak for the entire readership of Caray! when I say that we all appreciate your recaps a great deal and hope to see you around as a commenter, if recapping is too time consuming.
I have found Pasion to be the most challenging recap job yet. Not sure why, if it's the vocabulary or that the situations require more explanation, if it's more dialogue driven than other novelas (requiring more translation and less ability to summarize). Then there is the sound quality for those of us without cc. I enjoy it but it's definitely been more work than any of the others I've done. The flip side is that I've probably learned more.
I can't offer to take your spot since I do Thursdays and can barely get that done. If somebody wants to do Thursdays I could take Fridays but that's about all I could offer.
I have found Pasion to be the most challenging recap job yet. Not sure why, if it's the vocabulary or that the situations require more explanation, if it's more dialogue driven than other novelas (requiring more translation and less ability to summarize). Then there is the sound quality for those of us without cc. I enjoy it but it's definitely been more work than any of the others I've done. The flip side is that I've probably learned more.
I can't offer to take your spot since I do Thursdays and can barely get that done. If somebody wants to do Thursdays I could take Fridays but that's about all I could offer.
Hey Chris, I would be happy to take the Friday night spot for you on Pasión!! Crazy as that may seem. I get so much out of dong the recaps, I also think there are only 6 or 7 more Friday nights so that would work well. I will of course continue doing Monday night on Juan which may never end but hopefully will by June or so.
As for tonight, I was out and I taped Pasión so I hope I have it to see tomorrow morning (it is 2 minutes to midnight here in Mountain time). It looks like Margarita did a nifty recap just above in her response so I will use that and convert the whole thing with some of my own snark added in and post the whole sheebang over the weekend.
I hope things calm down for you for a bit so you can catch your breath literally and figuratively. We want you to stay around, you are such a valuable asset to this blog.
Just for fun, and I know you don't have time but please take a look at my crazy slide.com shows I built last weekend. Clearly I am someone with enough time on my hands to take your Friday spot for the duration. If you miss doing it too much, let me know and you can jump back on board anytime!
Here's my kaleidoscope of saints, melting iglesias and other madness of Mexico, New Mex, etc.
http://cherylnewmex.slide.com/?public_pr=true
Happy holiday, happy spring, happy Pasion!
As for tonight, I was out and I taped Pasión so I hope I have it to see tomorrow morning (it is 2 minutes to midnight here in Mountain time). It looks like Margarita did a nifty recap just above in her response so I will use that and convert the whole thing with some of my own snark added in and post the whole sheebang over the weekend.
I hope things calm down for you for a bit so you can catch your breath literally and figuratively. We want you to stay around, you are such a valuable asset to this blog.
Just for fun, and I know you don't have time but please take a look at my crazy slide.com shows I built last weekend. Clearly I am someone with enough time on my hands to take your Friday spot for the duration. If you miss doing it too much, let me know and you can jump back on board anytime!
Here's my kaleidoscope of saints, melting iglesias and other madness of Mexico, New Mex, etc.
http://cherylnewmex.slide.com/?public_pr=true
Happy holiday, happy spring, happy Pasion!
Ferro--I do hope things get easier for you soon. I'm sorry for your troubles. You know we'll be here when you get back, all happy to see you. :) If my Spanish were better, and I had captions, heck, I'd do it! As it is, I'd end up irritating a lot of people with my piss-poor translating. LOL
Nice job, Red Margarita. I wasn't going to watch my recording until Saturday, but based on what I read, I had to look at the episode right away.
Way to step up to the plate, Cheryl! Looking forward to your point of view and added snarks as well on this episode. After all, we cannot talk about Pasion enough, can we? :D
Nice job, Red Margarita. I wasn't going to watch my recording until Saturday, but based on what I read, I had to look at the episode right away.
Way to step up to the plate, Cheryl! Looking forward to your point of view and added snarks as well on this episode. After all, we cannot talk about Pasion enough, can we? :D
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: Saturday, March 22, 2008 at 2:30:00 AM EDT
: Saturday, March 22, 2008 at 2:30:00 AM EDT
You got that absolutely right, DQ de 7C's Stephe, I was just looking for a good excuse to play all those Ric, Ascanio, Mario and even silly but cute Vasco scenes over and over to get the vocabulary just so right! teehee. There is never too much of our galans. But neither of our slimedog villains with weird hair and dolls dressed like them and sanctimonious would be saints. Wow, I love this show.
Absolutely. I love them ALL! Good, Bad, Saintly, and Indifferent.
(By the way, your slide shows are awesome.)
(By the way, your slide shows are awesome.)
Permalink posted by : Saturday, March 22, 2008 at 2:42:00 AM EDT
: Saturday, March 22, 2008 at 2:42:00 AM EDT
Cheryl: Loved your slide show and thanks for taking on Friday nights. I'm sure your recaps will be de-light-ful.
And, Margarita - you have a great memory and thanks for sharing with us.
From lower Ala
And, Margarita - you have a great memory and thanks for sharing with us.
From lower Ala
Margarita thanks so much for your excellent recap. It shows that you have great memory for the overall story as well as an excellent understanding of the details. Of the 3 novelas I've watched, the recaps has made this my favorite so far.
Cherylnewmex, bless you for saving the day (Friday that is). I can't praise you guys and gals enough who share so much of your time and talent to recap these episodes. It takes me forever to answer a few e-mails. So, I know it must take hours to recap an hour of drama. I luv it, novelas are such a great addition to my efforts to learn Spanish.
Cherylnewmex, bless you for saving the day (Friday that is). I can't praise you guys and gals enough who share so much of your time and talent to recap these episodes. It takes me forever to answer a few e-mails. So, I know it must take hours to recap an hour of drama. I luv it, novelas are such a great addition to my efforts to learn Spanish.
Permalink posted by : Saturday, March 22, 2008 at 10:38:00 AM EDT
: Saturday, March 22, 2008 at 10:38:00 AM EDT
Thanks Margarita and Thank you Cheryl! I hope in a while I can get back to recapping, it is very rewarding but once it became a source of stress, I knew I needed a break. Thank you all so much for your comments and support.
Great diving save, Margarita, and an excellent recap.
I know these telenovelas are fantasy and often laughable, but if the essence of drama is to evoke feeling, this one is doing it in spades!
I wanted to jump through the screen and bitch slap Liz last night. And for sure Alberto will get his, but not soon enough!
The sad thing is, that life really was that hard, cruel and unjust back then. And for some, it is still that way today.
I know these telenovelas are fantasy and often laughable, but if the essence of drama is to evoke feeling, this one is doing it in spades!
I wanted to jump through the screen and bitch slap Liz last night. And for sure Alberto will get his, but not soon enough!
The sad thing is, that life really was that hard, cruel and unjust back then. And for some, it is still that way today.
I'm with you on Lis, riberajoe. I simply could not believe how downright nasty she continues to get. And the next episode is going to be even worse! Hard times are upon us indeed when you find yourself wanting a heavy anvil (or some horrible evil) to fall on a blind woman.
I got my chuckles when it came to Santi. As a collective, we were so sure Ric's dread pirate secret would be spilled by him, but Santi only told his mama; the WHOLE FAMILY found out because of poor Paisana's slip of the lip. What a hoot. LMAO!
Bouffy really did a number on Mani's face. What a piece of crap that man is.
This is getting SO good. I love this show.
I got my chuckles when it came to Santi. As a collective, we were so sure Ric's dread pirate secret would be spilled by him, but Santi only told his mama; the WHOLE FAMILY found out because of poor Paisana's slip of the lip. What a hoot. LMAO!
Bouffy really did a number on Mani's face. What a piece of crap that man is.
This is getting SO good. I love this show.
Permalink posted by : Saturday, March 22, 2008 at 2:27:00 PM EDT
: Saturday, March 22, 2008 at 2:27:00 PM EDT
Ferro I'm going to miss your recaps you will be missed. Riberajoe I wanted to cold clock Lis and "greasilocks" bka Santi the sanctimonious hypocrite. I hate him, along with Lis, and LaFont. And Justo is a wimp. What a weak man. Really what has Ric done to him. He's done nothing but try to help Justo when he didn't have to. And it was Justo's idea for Ric to marry Camila right away even though Ric wanted to wait until he cleared his name but no Ric is a bad man because "greasilocks" said so. I was glad that Camila slapped him after her called her a ramera. I would've punched the crap outta of him. Mondays show will be hard to watch per the previews as Camila is publicly humiliated by that blasted Lis and even the nosey maid put her two cents in. Looking forward to the day when they all get what's coming to them.
I hope things get better for you Ferro. Thanks to you, Margarita, Cheryl, and everyone else for the recaps. I'd have a hard time on this show without them.
Friday was a very maddening episode, but I think everyone was in character. Santi cannot think straight when it comes to Camila (nor can Lis or Grita for that matter). Justo has always been a wimp and cared more about what people thought than his own kids. Cami obviously got her caring about what people think from him, although it seems like she is moving beyond that. She did not get her desire to fix problems from Justo, but maybe she tends to be so bad at it because no one taught her how :-)
Cami Supporter
Friday was a very maddening episode, but I think everyone was in character. Santi cannot think straight when it comes to Camila (nor can Lis or Grita for that matter). Justo has always been a wimp and cared more about what people thought than his own kids. Cami obviously got her caring about what people think from him, although it seems like she is moving beyond that. She did not get her desire to fix problems from Justo, but maybe she tends to be so bad at it because no one taught her how :-)
Cami Supporter
Permalink posted by : Saturday, March 22, 2008 at 8:20:00 PM EDT
: Saturday, March 22, 2008 at 8:20:00 PM EDT
Ferro~~~Hope real life calms down for you. Cheryl, you are a honey to jump in to translate Fridays. Thank you. And, thanks, Margarita for doing that excellent recap on the spur of the moment. When Vasco and Saintly were arguing about Ric and Camila, didn't they actually start shoving and bulling each other around...or was that just the telenovela in my mind ? Anyhoo, I was very proud of Vasco [for the first time ever] for actually sticking up for his sister and Ric [even after Ric punched him..I guess V realized that he deserved that punch and more]. I definitely think that V is on the road to redemption. The next few weeks are going to be hard to watch because the baddies are on top right now. Let's hope the good guys [Ascanio o o , Father Gaspar, LP, Chino, Mario, Jim, Sofia] can all rally and come to the aid of our 2 starcrossed lovers. I agree that Justo is a useless hipocrite. I have no respect for him. And now that Saintly knows that Ric and Camila are not legally married , he will try to bully Camila into marrying him. Jorge told Saintly that if he asks, Jorge could still help Camila. However, Saintly is so proud and sanctimonious, he probably won't ask Jorge to help Camila out of her pickle. Jorge seems to be losing patience with Lafont but will he have the stones to step on him and knoch him down peg. And Lis thinks she is large and in charge and that she can keep on manipulating Lafone and wiggle out of marrying him. She has no idea that Lafont is a very evil hombre.
Permalink posted by : Saturday, March 22, 2008 at 8:36:00 PM EDT
: Saturday, March 22, 2008 at 8:36:00 PM EDT
I'll miss you, Chris, but I understand - I had to stop recapping for a while too, and the break did me a lot of good.
Margarita, I am in awe of your memory. :) And Cheryl, I am looking forward to your recaps!
Margarita, I am in awe of your memory. :) And Cheryl, I am looking forward to your recaps!
Hey guys =)
Thanks for the compliments! Maybe if I did my recaps from memory in the future I wouldn't spend so much time on them...Nah, I'd miss my excuse to re-watch all the steamy luuvv scenes (really honey, I'm just making sure I got the dialog right...).
Mad Bess - There was definitely some tussling between Vasco and Santi (I call it a tussle 'cause it was hardly a real fight, like the cool fights MMM has).
I also forgot to add (and probably tried to block it out of my memory...) that Al started kissing Lis, then trying to feel her up, then...I'll stop there, it was just so slimy...I know she can't see the way she looks at him, but she's insane if she thinks this guy will actually let her escape without marrying him, etc. He flat out told her he wanted to boink her since the first time he met her.
I went ahead and deleted my previous post since Chris was kind enough to add it to the main post ;)
Thanks for the compliments! Maybe if I did my recaps from memory in the future I wouldn't spend so much time on them...Nah, I'd miss my excuse to re-watch all the steamy luuvv scenes (really honey, I'm just making sure I got the dialog right...).
Mad Bess - There was definitely some tussling between Vasco and Santi (I call it a tussle 'cause it was hardly a real fight, like the cool fights MMM has).
I also forgot to add (and probably tried to block it out of my memory...) that Al started kissing Lis, then trying to feel her up, then...I'll stop there, it was just so slimy...I know she can't see the way she looks at him, but she's insane if she thinks this guy will actually let her escape without marrying him, etc. He flat out told her he wanted to boink her since the first time he met her.
I went ahead and deleted my previous post since Chris was kind enough to add it to the main post ;)
The tussling between vASSco and Santi was great--heck, that whole scene was. I'll bet the actors had a hell of a lot of fun doing it. Should we ALLOW Cami to go with Ric... blah blah blah... Got news for you boys, and you too, Don Justo--Cami's going to do exactly what she wants to do, regardless of what bargains she makes, regardless of what she promises anyone. So y'all might as well save your collective breaths, and help her pack when the time comes. Heh-heh.
When Le Bouffy gave Lis that liplock, I thought I was going to blow my dinner. *blech* But then I had to laugh at the look on Lis' face. Her expression hovered somewhere over mild shock, forced politeness, and utter revulsion, all at the same time.
Someone mentioned that Paisana cleans up well when she dresses up. Yes, she does indeed.
So little Ana has come down with a rash or something not good, after Ofi warned The GritEater that she didn't deserve the child God gave her. Uh-oh. The writers had better NOT be going anywhere with that. :(
When Le Bouffy gave Lis that liplock, I thought I was going to blow my dinner. *blech* But then I had to laugh at the look on Lis' face. Her expression hovered somewhere over mild shock, forced politeness, and utter revulsion, all at the same time.
Someone mentioned that Paisana cleans up well when she dresses up. Yes, she does indeed.
So little Ana has come down with a rash or something not good, after Ofi warned The GritEater that she didn't deserve the child God gave her. Uh-oh. The writers had better NOT be going anywhere with that. :(
Permalink posted by : Sunday, March 23, 2008 at 4:48:00 AM EDT
: Sunday, March 23, 2008 at 4:48:00 AM EDT
Yeah DQ of the 7Cs~~~Watching Lafont drool all over Lis always makes me want to hurl... but...she deserves all his slime. She's got to pay the piper his due. She asked for his help ...she got it... time to pay up. You will not be able to smirk and wiggle out of this one, Honeybun...so... Hold on to your doll ! Lafont in turn must pay for being an all around sneaky snake with an arrogant, abusive manner. In the end , the love you make is equal to the love you take...I'm just saying. No love for you guys. Go karma !
Permalink posted by : Sunday, March 23, 2008 at 8:52:00 AM EDT
: Sunday, March 23, 2008 at 8:52:00 AM EDT
Will miss your insights and humor for a while, Ferro. I know you'll be back soon enough to entertain us in the future. --Excellent recap, Margarita, and from memory, no less!
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The next few weeks will be full of various types of Pasión for me, and not all of it sweetness and light. I will enjoy demonic LaBouffant's squeeze play for Lis now since his part of the bargain is done and he's ready to collect his "soul."
Whatever Clothilde and Lis have in store for Cami, I sort of have to agree that she (and maybe with a little outside push from Jimena) will be giving a good as she gets! I am also going to enjoy seeing Ascanio's reaction if he ever gets wind of those horrible bruises of Mannie's. I am most worried for El Antillano, though, because he may end up sacrificing himself and my heart will be in my throat until that is resolved. I cannot EVER see Cami returning to a life with Santi now, if GRita obligingly bites the dust, being that he's gotten so self-righteous and is so odiously sanctimonious. --I was soooo ready for Vasco to punch his lights out....... GRRR!
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The next few weeks will be full of various types of Pasión for me, and not all of it sweetness and light. I will enjoy demonic LaBouffant's squeeze play for Lis now since his part of the bargain is done and he's ready to collect his "soul."
Whatever Clothilde and Lis have in store for Cami, I sort of have to agree that she (and maybe with a little outside push from Jimena) will be giving a good as she gets! I am also going to enjoy seeing Ascanio's reaction if he ever gets wind of those horrible bruises of Mannie's. I am most worried for El Antillano, though, because he may end up sacrificing himself and my heart will be in my throat until that is resolved. I cannot EVER see Cami returning to a life with Santi now, if GRita obligingly bites the dust, being that he's gotten so self-righteous and is so odiously sanctimonious. --I was soooo ready for Vasco to punch his lights out....... GRRR!
I recall that when this novela first started while the plot was developing we focused our comments ad nauseum on the wigs and the hair. We went into detail about whether it was clean, dirty, greasy, conditioned, styled according to the period etc. etc. Now that the novela is winding up, Santi's hair may be greasier than anyone else's but personally at this point there's too much else going on for me to zero in on his hair which has nothing to do with the plot.
Also, Justo isn't being a wimp for wanting to send Ric away. Pirates were considered bad people. There was a shadow cast on Ric's reputation. Everyone thought he was a bad guy period. They felt deceived by the false name which invalidated the marriage. Justo has his daughter's interest at heart. I think we've placed Ric on a pedestal so high and so large that it has a bed on it that we'd all like to climb into. Anyone who isn't willing to kiss his butt is dirty and must die.
Also, Justo isn't being a wimp for wanting to send Ric away. Pirates were considered bad people. There was a shadow cast on Ric's reputation. Everyone thought he was a bad guy period. They felt deceived by the false name which invalidated the marriage. Justo has his daughter's interest at heart. I think we've placed Ric on a pedestal so high and so large that it has a bed on it that we'd all like to climb into. Anyone who isn't willing to kiss his butt is dirty and must die.
Permalink posted by : Sunday, March 23, 2008 at 11:25:00 AM EDT
: Sunday, March 23, 2008 at 11:25:00 AM EDT
Since Ferro posted your fab recap to the main post and mostly because it is a sterling, sparkly gem of achievement, Margarita, I wouldn't dream of altering or adding a thing to your recap. It is a model to strive for and especially because you just did a brain dump with such good recall. GREAT, GREAT JOB!! Thank you thank you for giving us all an attractive refuge from all the hussle and bussle of a holiday weekend so we can sneak in here to the Blog and commune about this fascinating pirate tale for a few minutes of quiet reflection.
Anonymous Mar 23, 11:25:00 AM:
I, for one, would not deem to kiss Ric's beautiful backside, but I certainly would want to have it laying next to mine, anytime. However, that being said, Justo is doing what would be expected of him as a deceived papa, true. On the other hand, he has conveniently forgotten his own guilt in all of this and that if his daughter hadn't taken refuge next to Ric's gorgeous naked backside, let alone kissed it so willingly, she'd have been Jorge's unwilling ramera instead because she and Justo had their own backsides between the sword and the wall, as the Latins are wont to say. Now, I still don't see why Justo and Ric and Vasco and the rest of the family can clean up so nicely but Saintly Santi seems to feel it more pious to forego his personal hygiene more often than not. =/8 >)
I, for one, would not deem to kiss Ric's beautiful backside, but I certainly would want to have it laying next to mine, anytime. However, that being said, Justo is doing what would be expected of him as a deceived papa, true. On the other hand, he has conveniently forgotten his own guilt in all of this and that if his daughter hadn't taken refuge next to Ric's gorgeous naked backside, let alone kissed it so willingly, she'd have been Jorge's unwilling ramera instead because she and Justo had their own backsides between the sword and the wall, as the Latins are wont to say. Now, I still don't see why Justo and Ric and Vasco and the rest of the family can clean up so nicely but Saintly Santi seems to feel it more pious to forego his personal hygiene more often than not. =/8 >)
If someone wants to give an opinion about a character's hair being greasy which in Santi's case it is LOL that's their right. And Justo has shown himself to be a wimp time and time again and it goes beyond his wanting to keep El Antillano from Camila. He is scared of what people think and quick to believe what someone tells him without looking at the whole facts before jumping to conclusions. Yeah he may feel deceived but El Antillano did try to tell Justo that he was working secretly for the crown to undercover the truth about the caravan robberies but I'm sure Justo won't remember any of that. And as Camila reminded Santi he wanted her to sleep with him before they married so he is being a hypocrite in his indignation towards El Antillano
Permalink posted by : Sunday, March 23, 2008 at 2:42:00 PM EDT
: Sunday, March 23, 2008 at 2:42:00 PM EDT
Don't forget : ''Mentiras y Verdades 50 Anos de Telenovelas'' is on tonight at 9 eastern time. I think that Chantal Andere [?] from Amor Real [Antonia] and Destilsndo [Minerva] is on tonight.
Permalink posted by : Sunday, March 23, 2008 at 7:00:00 PM EDT
: Sunday, March 23, 2008 at 7:00:00 PM EDT
Oi vey! I'm just now catching up for the last half of the week (it's been madness at the barn - mares foaling, mares not foaling, sleeping on cots in a stall, pulling together a show - I haven't had thirty seconds to sit down and de-stress with the stresses of our favourite pirates until now), and what a time to start missng large clumps!
As a fellow claustrophobe, I state more firmly than ever that LaFont. Must. Die. Watching him do that to poor Manuela positively made me cry! I'm sure the grandkids will forgive Ascanio for saving mama from her ogre of a daddy.
There may yet be an advantage to Justo's lack of backbone: We all know he'll wilt on sending Ric away as soon as Cami gives him those leaking eyes!
As a fellow claustrophobe, I state more firmly than ever that LaFont. Must. Die. Watching him do that to poor Manuela positively made me cry! I'm sure the grandkids will forgive Ascanio for saving mama from her ogre of a daddy.
There may yet be an advantage to Justo's lack of backbone: We all know he'll wilt on sending Ric away as soon as Cami gives him those leaking eyes!
I think some of us would be less annoyed with Santi's hair if we didn't already know how much better he looks when it's clean. :-)
Anon 02:42 I rewound my tape and compared Santi's hair to Mario's and Ascanio. Those 2 have hair that looks like it hasn't been washed in ages. A good conditioner would help also. I agree with you that everyone is free to comment as they please even if it is petty and off topic. So, either I offended you by commenting on something you wrote or else you are defending someone else who rightfully made a but isn't going to get involved with a back and forth dialogue about nonsense. By the way, if we are allowed to comment, why did you find it necessary to disagree with my comment about Justo? (response not necessary).
Permalink posted by : Sunday, March 23, 2008 at 8:15:00 PM EDT
: Sunday, March 23, 2008 at 8:15:00 PM EDT
I must say I am pretty puzzled as to why the director (or whoever) decided to keep Santi's hair looking the way it does. I mean, I don't expect his hair to be perfect, the guy IS a blacksmith and all (and if you ask me, the twins' hair is TOO perfect for that profession), but what was Mr. Director thinking while they were shooting scenes? The women will like it this way...? Yeah, that looks hot, the greasier the better...? I wonder if Sebastien complained about it himself?
Inquiring minds want to know. Because julie is right. We're used to Rulli looking GOOD.
Thanks for the tip on Mentiras y Verdades, madbess/susanlynn. I've never seen it before, and I want to check it out. (Oh, if only my Spanish were better!)
Inquiring minds want to know. Because julie is right. We're used to Rulli looking GOOD.
Thanks for the tip on Mentiras y Verdades, madbess/susanlynn. I've never seen it before, and I want to check it out. (Oh, if only my Spanish were better!)
Permalink posted by : Sunday, March 23, 2008 at 9:06:00 PM EDT
: Sunday, March 23, 2008 at 9:06:00 PM EDT
OR...
They could have stuck Rulli with extensions or a wig that was really cheap. As women, we've seen stuff like that, where no amount of dressing makes it look like anything more than a wet dog. And costuming departments don't replace stuff like that, unless your name is Clooney, DeCaprio, etc. You have to suck it up and get your ass on the set.
They could have stuck Rulli with extensions or a wig that was really cheap. As women, we've seen stuff like that, where no amount of dressing makes it look like anything more than a wet dog. And costuming departments don't replace stuff like that, unless your name is Clooney, DeCaprio, etc. You have to suck it up and get your ass on the set.
Permalink posted by : Sunday, March 23, 2008 at 9:27:00 PM EDT
: Sunday, March 23, 2008 at 9:27:00 PM EDT
Margarita, thanks for the recap! You have a wonderful memory and skill for the spanish language. So maybe you or someone else can help me out here.
Did I understand correctly? That when Uriel was asking Jorge about going mounting ...didn't Jorge say---don't do it before the wedding... and Uriel said of course not, he was talking about mounting the horses, not Ursula!!!
jb-Iron Jack Cash
Did I understand correctly? That when Uriel was asking Jorge about going mounting ...didn't Jorge say---don't do it before the wedding... and Uriel said of course not, he was talking about mounting the horses, not Ursula!!!
jb-Iron Jack Cash
Permalink posted by : Sunday, March 23, 2008 at 9:31:00 PM EDT
: Sunday, March 23, 2008 at 9:31:00 PM EDT
Thanks so much for the recap! It was funny to see Lis's face when La Font was kissing her. Ewwwwwww! She'll get what she deserves when she is forced to marry him! (Because he's not taking no for an answer!)
As for Santi's hair, it would look much better if he pulled it back in a ponytail!
As for Santi's hair, it would look much better if he pulled it back in a ponytail!
Permalink posted by : Sunday, March 23, 2008 at 9:41:00 PM EDT
: Sunday, March 23, 2008 at 9:41:00 PM EDT
Yes, Iron Jack, Uriel said something about mounting or riding with Ursula, which Jorge either seriously or jokingly (I don't remember!) took to mean sex rather than horses. :)
Ursula did tell Fortunata she wanted to try our Uriel before marrying him, so it might well have been both.
I cannot imagine what kind of marriage those two might have, but she's totally batty if she thinks Vasco would make her happier. I doubt she'd enjoy living in Justo's house, eating pueblo food, feeding pigs, and wearing plain dresses.
Ursula did tell Fortunata she wanted to try our Uriel before marrying him, so it might well have been both.
I cannot imagine what kind of marriage those two might have, but she's totally batty if she thinks Vasco would make her happier. I doubt she'd enjoy living in Justo's house, eating pueblo food, feeding pigs, and wearing plain dresses.
Ric is no saint and we may have put him on a pedestal, but he is not just some totally unknown pirate to Justo. Justo certainly has a right to be upset about the deception and concerned for his daughter, but he has also seen how hard Ric has worked to save Camila and even help Justo. So he should know that Ric is not just a bad guy. I still think he cares more about appearances than anything.
Cami Supporter
Cami Supporter
Permalink posted by : Sunday, March 23, 2008 at 10:03:00 PM EDT
: Sunday, March 23, 2008 at 10:03:00 PM EDT
Enjoyed the recap & comments but it was hard to find again. I don't know how but could someone post this recap with all the recaps for the other episodes? Thank you, much appreciated!
Oh, Santi's hair looked a little lighter to me in one episode but now it looks greasy brown again. He has fine hair and they need to blow dry it. Too bad because it's such distraction from Rulli's excellent acting.
Oh, Santi's hair looked a little lighter to me in one episode but now it looks greasy brown again. He has fine hair and they need to blow dry it. Too bad because it's such distraction from Rulli's excellent acting.
Permalink posted by : Monday, March 24, 2008 at 2:51:00 AM EDT
: Monday, March 24, 2008 at 2:51:00 AM EDT
So...Ursula wants to test drive Uriel. She is a trip. What a spoiled princessa. Whoever ends up with her has his work cut out for him. And, yes, I do have Ric on a pedestal...a pirate pedestal. Whataman whataman whataman whata mighty fine man. I think that Santiago's tresses stand out because everyone else seems to have gotten their hair under control...even Vasco whose hairdo was really a messy, frizzy mess at the beginning when he was too busy to comb it because he was focusing on his drinking and whoring. Oh yes, Lafont still has hair issues, but he deserves them. That rooster's comb is bizarre , but it's his signature. The twins on the other hand, look like they just stepped out of the salon. Put them in white suits, and they are ready to ... DISCO. I love this show. It is right up there with Amor Real and Alborada for me. Does anyone know how many more episodes are left? I will be sad when it ends, but I'm looking forward to my second favorite telenovio showing up with his big sombrero. [My motto is : Don't put all your eggs in one basket...diversify.., because Fernandito can't be in every telenovela even though I wish he could. ] I've been watching the promos for Fuego en la Sangre , and there are lots of familiar faces. I think I saw Marina [Sherilyn] from Alborada get slapped by maldito Bertha from Heridas de Amor. I also really like Adela Noriego, and it appears that she will be Eduardo's love interest. En fin, a door closes , and another opens. I hope that Beckster and Schoolmarm will be on board for Fuego...I miss them.
Permalink posted by : Monday, March 24, 2008 at 8:28:00 AM EDT
: Monday, March 24, 2008 at 8:28:00 AM EDT
Heads up folks. I noticed in the TV guide out of the Dallas paper yesterday that Pasion will be on 3 days this week. Grupo will be 2 hours a couple of days this week. No clue why but I thought I'd put it out there for those with DVR's.
I missed Friday's show cuz I was at my Mom's house in Oklahoma for the weekend. I too am going to be very busy the next month with packing & moving and squeezing in the NASCAR races next weekend to boot. So much to do...so little time! I trashed my NCAA tournament brackets Saturday nite. Did good the first two days of the tourney & it went to hell in a handbasket Saturday (thanks Duke for losing to West Virginia).
Santi, Santi, Santi. What part of "you are married to another woman & Cami's personal life is none of your bees wax cuz she is married to another man now" do you not understand?! I think Cami's situation will force Santi to swallow his pride & allow Jorge to acknowledge him as his son. Then Santi will use his newfound position to get Cami out of her situation and keep Ascanio & Jimena out of serfdom.
I'm not even going to touch the "mounting" remark regarding Ursula & Uriel. I'm just going to leave it alone.
Poor Cuz Liz. You made your bed now you gotta lie in it.
I missed Friday's show cuz I was at my Mom's house in Oklahoma for the weekend. I too am going to be very busy the next month with packing & moving and squeezing in the NASCAR races next weekend to boot. So much to do...so little time! I trashed my NCAA tournament brackets Saturday nite. Did good the first two days of the tourney & it went to hell in a handbasket Saturday (thanks Duke for losing to West Virginia).
Santi, Santi, Santi. What part of "you are married to another woman & Cami's personal life is none of your bees wax cuz she is married to another man now" do you not understand?! I think Cami's situation will force Santi to swallow his pride & allow Jorge to acknowledge him as his son. Then Santi will use his newfound position to get Cami out of her situation and keep Ascanio & Jimena out of serfdom.
I'm not even going to touch the "mounting" remark regarding Ursula & Uriel. I'm just going to leave it alone.
Poor Cuz Liz. You made your bed now you gotta lie in it.
Permalink posted by : Monday, March 24, 2008 at 9:46:00 AM EDT
: Monday, March 24, 2008 at 9:46:00 AM EDT
Dear fellow bloggers, I have to admit that I actually gave in and during my free 3 days I completed watching Pasion on Youtube ( there are 96 parts all together).
I swear that I will not reveal anything at all!
But I'm possesed completely now! I wake up and go back to watch my favorite episodes like a maniac. I'm so profoundly in love with Ric - it's not even funny!
My hubby thinks I have to go to therapist.
The parts that are left are much more powerful then are any of the previous ( besides love scenes).
Don't miss ANY of the episodes - catch them on YouTube if you don't have VCR or DVR, but watch them!
Cast is just superb!
I still be watching Pasion every day on TV because I didn't have captions and I don't want to miss any word at all. And I still will be participating in this forum like everybody else without revealing anything at all because it's a real pleasure to read the recaps and all the comments.
I hope you will not throw me out because of my sin.
Eve from Cleveland
I swear that I will not reveal anything at all!
But I'm possesed completely now! I wake up and go back to watch my favorite episodes like a maniac. I'm so profoundly in love with Ric - it's not even funny!
My hubby thinks I have to go to therapist.
The parts that are left are much more powerful then are any of the previous ( besides love scenes).
Don't miss ANY of the episodes - catch them on YouTube if you don't have VCR or DVR, but watch them!
Cast is just superb!
I still be watching Pasion every day on TV because I didn't have captions and I don't want to miss any word at all. And I still will be participating in this forum like everybody else without revealing anything at all because it's a real pleasure to read the recaps and all the comments.
I hope you will not throw me out because of my sin.
Eve from Cleveland
Permalink posted by : Monday, March 24, 2008 at 11:04:00 AM EDT
: Monday, March 24, 2008 at 11:04:00 AM EDT
Thanks to everyone who graciously remarked on reasons why Santi's hair stands for a topic of conversation. I'm the Anon who first complained about us zeroing in on his hair (and the green scarf) when he's playing such a key role in the episode. Since my spanish isn't that good. I depend on the recaps and the comments to help sort out a lot of the details. Santi is holding a couple of trump cards right now and I appreciate comments and opinions about how others think he's going to play his hand. I'll bet he's gonna play along with Jorge just so that he can help Cami. At the same time, I think he's going to try to use his influence to destroy Ric & Cami's relationship.
Permalink posted by : Monday, March 24, 2008 at 12:16:00 PM EDT
: Monday, March 24, 2008 at 12:16:00 PM EDT
12:16, any time you have a question, just go ahead and ask. We'll probably never stop talking about Santi's hair, but at least you'll find an answer to your question in there somewhere!
For this technically challenged person, would someone advise how to get to the YouTube website shows for Pasion? Gracias
Permalink posted by : Monday, March 24, 2008 at 1:53:00 PM EDT
: Monday, March 24, 2008 at 1:53:00 PM EDT
You go on "www.youtube.com" and in a search box put "PASIÓN ##" where ## stands for number of the show. Usually there 4-5 videos per chapter.
Sometimes they listed as "PASIÓN cap 65 /2.1" or just "PASIÓN 65.2"
Also there is another way ( maybe easier) :
http://www.pasiontelenovela.com/televisa/capitulos
There you can open one "capitulo" and all videos from Youtube are right there in order.
Eve from Cleveland
Sometimes they listed as "PASIÓN cap 65 /2.1" or just "PASIÓN 65.2"
Also there is another way ( maybe easier) :
http://www.pasiontelenovela.com/televisa/capitulos
There you can open one "capitulo" and all videos from Youtube are right there in order.
Eve from Cleveland
Permalink posted by : Monday, March 24, 2008 at 2:02:00 PM EDT
: Monday, March 24, 2008 at 2:02:00 PM EDT
UPDATE: according the the TV Guide in today's Dallas Morning News: NO Pasion airing tonight. Guapos is a 2 hours episode. Like I posted earlier, not sure if this is a for sure thing or not but those with DVR's have been given a heads up.
Permalink posted by : Monday, March 24, 2008 at 2:30:00 PM EDT
: Monday, March 24, 2008 at 2:30:00 PM EDT
Ferro - I am so sorry for whatever you are going through. We are going to miss your recaps but what's really important is you and your family.
Permalink posted by : Monday, March 24, 2008 at 2:41:00 PM EDT
: Monday, March 24, 2008 at 2:41:00 PM EDT
PaulaTX82 - I am pretty sure your newspaper is wrong. On Friday, when showing the advance, they said LUNES a 9 as expected. Not Martes.
I see/hear about wrong newspaper listings for Univision all the time, but when they've announce a date/time on the air, it's always been right.
I have no idea what kind of havoc this might wreak on a DVR/TiVo. My machine is set to record from 9:02 to 10:04 every night whether the show's on or not. :)
I see/hear about wrong newspaper listings for Univision all the time, but when they've announce a date/time on the air, it's always been right.
I have no idea what kind of havoc this might wreak on a DVR/TiVo. My machine is set to record from 9:02 to 10:04 every night whether the show's on or not. :)
I just wanted to throw in my 2 cents worth, and grip about Lisabeta the physco.
Ferro, I don't know you, but I do hope things get better for you and your family. Been there, sadley still doing that...
Let me just say, that I was SO PISSED after watching that crazy B-Lisa on Friday, I was ready to jump into the TV set and beat her blind-ass into a bloody pulp! I think she's just pure evil, and her voice!!! She sounds like she's channeling Lucifer or something ok?
Maybe she inherited some STD from her father when she was born? Things like that tended to happen back then, anyway, I keep trying to summon up a scrap of sympathy for the crazy ass wench, nah, nope, I'm dry. And Bouffy, did ya'll see him, just sit back in the lawyers office, and just smile and chuckle at Lisa's tirade??!!!
I hope they both rot in Novella HELL!!!!
Santi, needs to get off his high horse. Get off the cross we need the wood and get on with your life. Divorce your sniveling, schreeching wife, sister of your beloved, cry me a river, build a bridge and get the HELL OVER IT, man! Sheesh....oh, and wash your greasy ass hair!!! Ok, 'nuff said about him.
When this novella first started, I was prepared not to like it, and I thought Susanna Gonzales wouldn't make a good herione. I am soooo glad I was wrong...I am literally glued to the set the whole time, and watch it twice! I have Direct TV, so it air's at 6:00pm PST, which I'm guessing is 9:00pm EST, then I watch it again at 9:00 PST, just to make sure I don't miss anything. Sick aren't I? LOL
Before I end this lengthy post, I'm wondering since Crackhead (Lisa)contested the will, and she gets daddys money, wasn't there like a condition that she wouldn't get it? That it would go to the Mason's??!! How come NO ONE has mentioned that???
Ferro, I don't know you, but I do hope things get better for you and your family. Been there, sadley still doing that...
Let me just say, that I was SO PISSED after watching that crazy B-Lisa on Friday, I was ready to jump into the TV set and beat her blind-ass into a bloody pulp! I think she's just pure evil, and her voice!!! She sounds like she's channeling Lucifer or something ok?
Maybe she inherited some STD from her father when she was born? Things like that tended to happen back then, anyway, I keep trying to summon up a scrap of sympathy for the crazy ass wench, nah, nope, I'm dry. And Bouffy, did ya'll see him, just sit back in the lawyers office, and just smile and chuckle at Lisa's tirade??!!!
I hope they both rot in Novella HELL!!!!
Santi, needs to get off his high horse. Get off the cross we need the wood and get on with your life. Divorce your sniveling, schreeching wife, sister of your beloved, cry me a river, build a bridge and get the HELL OVER IT, man! Sheesh....oh, and wash your greasy ass hair!!! Ok, 'nuff said about him.
When this novella first started, I was prepared not to like it, and I thought Susanna Gonzales wouldn't make a good herione. I am soooo glad I was wrong...I am literally glued to the set the whole time, and watch it twice! I have Direct TV, so it air's at 6:00pm PST, which I'm guessing is 9:00pm EST, then I watch it again at 9:00 PST, just to make sure I don't miss anything. Sick aren't I? LOL
Before I end this lengthy post, I'm wondering since Crackhead (Lisa)contested the will, and she gets daddys money, wasn't there like a condition that she wouldn't get it? That it would go to the Mason's??!! How come NO ONE has mentioned that???
LOL Sweetcubangirl! A little frustrated with the bad guys, are we?? I used to hold out hope that Lis could somehow be rehabilitated, but now I just want her to marry Lafont, be grossed out, kill him, and pay the consequences.
The money won't go to the Masons because that part of the will was written with the assumption that he had a wife. The ED letter "proves" that he didn't have a valid marriage.
This nullifies the will; forget it ever existed. Without a valid will, the entire estate (including slaves like Camila and Ascanio) defaults to the next of kin, the increasingly-unworthy Lisabeta.
The money won't go to the Masons because that part of the will was written with the assumption that he had a wife. The ED letter "proves" that he didn't have a valid marriage.
This nullifies the will; forget it ever existed. Without a valid will, the entire estate (including slaves like Camila and Ascanio) defaults to the next of kin, the increasingly-unworthy Lisabeta.
About Santi- when did he stop wearing Cami's green scarf around his waist? Last one I saw was a cream color.
The perfect end for traitorous Lis and LaFont would be for Lafont to choke her (like he did his daughter) because she's not marrying him. Then Ric walks in, kills Lafont,and Lis dies in Ric's arms, apologizing for her misdeeds. Bad penniless Tia is sent to a convent forever.
(NO I haven't watched ahead on You Tube - I've no idea how this ends)
Haven't figured what to do about Grita and Santi yet. I really want him to be happy without Cami, but don't think he would be with Grita.
If Grita has to go, who could he marry?
Love this novela because it's moving along, no endless harebrain plot extensions. And Ric is a BIG plus!
The perfect end for traitorous Lis and LaFont would be for Lafont to choke her (like he did his daughter) because she's not marrying him. Then Ric walks in, kills Lafont,and Lis dies in Ric's arms, apologizing for her misdeeds. Bad penniless Tia is sent to a convent forever.
(NO I haven't watched ahead on You Tube - I've no idea how this ends)
Haven't figured what to do about Grita and Santi yet. I really want him to be happy without Cami, but don't think he would be with Grita.
If Grita has to go, who could he marry?
Love this novela because it's moving along, no endless harebrain plot extensions. And Ric is a BIG plus!
Permalink posted by : Monday, March 24, 2008 at 5:49:00 PM EDT
: Monday, March 24, 2008 at 5:49:00 PM EDT
If Santi changed scarfs from green to yellow to was only temporary. I looked way ahead in u tube and he's wearing the green one. And he still hasn't washed his greasy hair. Yes we are gonna keep talking about his hair cause this blog is all about mocking. Whoever don't like it can just skip over the comments that mentions his hair. And yes, I have Ric on a pedestal. A pedestal with a bed on it, wow, I like that idea. There's no comparison with greasylocks Santi and Ric da man.
Permalink posted by : Monday, March 24, 2008 at 6:54:00 PM EDT
: Monday, March 24, 2008 at 6:54:00 PM EDT
Anya, I think for a while Santi was wearing the scarf around his forehead while working at the forge, but most of the time it seems he wears it around his neck. I've never noticed that he's worn it around his waist, but I haven't been paying much attention.
You have to hand it to Rita for being so oblivious that she's never noticed that he wears the same scarf every day. Maybe she'd notice it if he was strangling her with it, but somehow I don't think it will happen.
You have to hand it to Rita for being so oblivious that she's never noticed that he wears the same scarf every day. Maybe she'd notice it if he was strangling her with it, but somehow I don't think it will happen.
Anya said: About Santi- when did he stop wearing Cami's green scarf around his waist? Last one I saw was a cream color.
Yeah, I noticed that too. And I think it's a subconscious indication that even poor Santi knows, in his madness and denial, that it's OVER. Even he knows that Ric and Cami's relationship has gone too far for it to ever be reversed; he's just trying to hold on to that dreamworld for as long as he can. Happens in real life all the time.
I think GRita will either redeem herself in a way that is so amazing (concerning his baby) that they might be able to start again, OR GRita will bite the dust and Santi will decide hey, I need to worry about being a dad, true love and all that rot can come later.
That is, if he doesn't end up dead/sacrificed/redeemed himself. All of us still recovering from DUELO-land can attest to the fact that the novela gods have no problems sacrificing the misguided but good at heart (*cough*poorGASPAR*cough). That STILL irks me...
Well, I did say Ascanio might be the next in the line of Good That Are Locked Up. When he sees what Le Bouffy has done to Mani's face, yikes. It just might happen.
Yeah, I noticed that too. And I think it's a subconscious indication that even poor Santi knows, in his madness and denial, that it's OVER. Even he knows that Ric and Cami's relationship has gone too far for it to ever be reversed; he's just trying to hold on to that dreamworld for as long as he can. Happens in real life all the time.
I think GRita will either redeem herself in a way that is so amazing (concerning his baby) that they might be able to start again, OR GRita will bite the dust and Santi will decide hey, I need to worry about being a dad, true love and all that rot can come later.
That is, if he doesn't end up dead/sacrificed/redeemed himself. All of us still recovering from DUELO-land can attest to the fact that the novela gods have no problems sacrificing the misguided but good at heart (*cough*poorGASPAR*cough). That STILL irks me...
Well, I did say Ascanio might be the next in the line of Good That Are Locked Up. When he sees what Le Bouffy has done to Mani's face, yikes. It just might happen.
Permalink posted by : Monday, March 24, 2008 at 7:21:00 PM EDT
: Monday, March 24, 2008 at 7:21:00 PM EDT
My DVR guide is showing no PASION tonight, and two hours of GUAPOS. Rats. Thanks for the head's-up, paulatx.
Permalink posted by : Monday, March 24, 2008 at 7:52:00 PM EDT
: Monday, March 24, 2008 at 7:52:00 PM EDT
Yeah, no Pasion and double Guapos on Monday and Friday this week so cheryl, you catch a break too.
I am thinking of transitioning back to the 8/7c hour novela after Pasion is over anyway, maybe I should start doing that if they are going to start alternating the programming anyway. Fuego looks good but the 9/8c pm hour means I will almost never see the show live and I have to use the old DVR in the basement since primetime realestate on the upstairs DVR is always full.
I am thinking of transitioning back to the 8/7c hour novela after Pasion is over anyway, maybe I should start doing that if they are going to start alternating the programming anyway. Fuego looks good but the 9/8c pm hour means I will almost never see the show live and I have to use the old DVR in the basement since primetime realestate on the upstairs DVR is always full.
Pasion was on tonight (Monday), so you really can't trust TV/DVR schedules. The day listed on the preview seems to be the most reliable (it did say Lunes).
Permalink posted by : Tuesday, March 25, 2008 at 12:20:00 AM EDT
: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 at 12:20:00 AM EDT
First I want to thank and say how much I appreciate all you recappers and commentors for all you contribute to my life with the great work you do.
I recorded several weeks before I started watching Pasión because I hate waiting for the next show, but alas, I recently caught up and am waiting for the next episode. (I am tempted to go to You-Tube. )
This is my second telenovela with you folks, because I couldn't get into Jaun that followed LFMB.
I bought the whole set of LFMB (It still had the same bad ending) andthe whole set of Yo Soy Betty la Fea. (Not near as good as LFMB.) I was so addicted to LFMB. (I still don't understand why Jaime didn't win an award.)
I bought Alborada, which was great, but felt it seemed choppy. The orginal must have been much better. But, I did finally get to see why everyone was HOT for Fernando Colunga.
I also bought Mi Destino Eres Tu, (not so hot Jaime) and Pasion De Gavilanes (ok) and Amor Real. (ok)
I really like Fernado Colunga, but not so much as did Jaime Camil,... maybe because Jamie was my first .......hot ...... you know ……. telenovela Galán .
I am really enjoying Pasións though it took awhile to get the characters straight.
I hope Lafont does something bad to Lis when he finds she’s stringing him along.
Thank you all!
Btw, I have to keep the captions off, or they are too distracting, but I am amazed at how much I understand.
Patty B. Utah
I recorded several weeks before I started watching Pasión because I hate waiting for the next show, but alas, I recently caught up and am waiting for the next episode. (I am tempted to go to You-Tube. )
This is my second telenovela with you folks, because I couldn't get into Jaun that followed LFMB.
I bought the whole set of LFMB (It still had the same bad ending) andthe whole set of Yo Soy Betty la Fea. (Not near as good as LFMB.) I was so addicted to LFMB. (I still don't understand why Jaime didn't win an award.)
I bought Alborada, which was great, but felt it seemed choppy. The orginal must have been much better. But, I did finally get to see why everyone was HOT for Fernando Colunga.
I also bought Mi Destino Eres Tu, (not so hot Jaime) and Pasion De Gavilanes (ok) and Amor Real. (ok)
I really like Fernado Colunga, but not so much as did Jaime Camil,... maybe because Jamie was my first .......hot ...... you know ……. telenovela Galán .
I am really enjoying Pasións though it took awhile to get the characters straight.
I hope Lafont does something bad to Lis when he finds she’s stringing him along.
Thank you all!
Btw, I have to keep the captions off, or they are too distracting, but I am amazed at how much I understand.
Patty B. Utah
Permalink posted by : Tuesday, March 25, 2008 at 12:26:00 AM EDT
: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 at 12:26:00 AM EDT
I'd like to know where the Anon at 12:20 saw Pasion tonight. It sure was not on in New Mexico or California, my two satellite stations. Someone mentioned the delightful sin of watching it twice in one night. Oh I sure do too. I'm sorry I am not taping this but have some troubles with taping at times. Old TV's and VCR's that fail or new TV's that blow tubes all the time. Can't win.
I bought the Alborada DVD's too and it is a choppy disappointment because that was my first full telenovela and I hated that they cut so many wonderful scenes and rearranged some things that I had enjoyed in the original. Oh well, choppy Fernando is better than no Fernando at all....
I bought the Alborada DVD's too and it is a choppy disappointment because that was my first full telenovela and I hated that they cut so many wonderful scenes and rearranged some things that I had enjoyed in the original. Oh well, choppy Fernando is better than no Fernando at all....
Howdy =)
Iron Jack et al: Yes, mounting has the same double meaning in Spanish as it does in English. Uriel told Jorge he was going riding (same word as mounting) with Ursula and was not so subtly informed that the only riding he was allowed was atop a horse. Still, whereas most women of the time believed men will not buy the cow when they can get the milk for free, Ursula is more of the school that there's no reason to buy a horse without taking it for a test drive...As for a marriage to Vasco, I don't think she necessarily felt the need to marry him (and even if she did, there's no way she'd move to Justo's), but wanted to make sure she had easy access to him (not really an option with a husband coming home to her every night).
As for greasy Santi (I mean his attitude, not his hair), watching tonight's episode reminded me of one of the things that made me cringe Friday night (tail end recap at the begining) - He said those famous words that people say when they are being total a$$es: "I know you hate me right now, but in time, you will thank me." It is the same thing that Enrique (Arturo Peniche's character in "Victoria" which airs on Telemundo at the same time as Pasion) always tells his ex-wife when he does some other despicable thing. I know Santi has deluded himself into thinking that he has Cami's soul in mind, but mostly he just wants Ric gone so Cami will go back to pining for him (Santi).
Iron Jack et al: Yes, mounting has the same double meaning in Spanish as it does in English. Uriel told Jorge he was going riding (same word as mounting) with Ursula and was not so subtly informed that the only riding he was allowed was atop a horse. Still, whereas most women of the time believed men will not buy the cow when they can get the milk for free, Ursula is more of the school that there's no reason to buy a horse without taking it for a test drive...As for a marriage to Vasco, I don't think she necessarily felt the need to marry him (and even if she did, there's no way she'd move to Justo's), but wanted to make sure she had easy access to him (not really an option with a husband coming home to her every night).
As for greasy Santi (I mean his attitude, not his hair), watching tonight's episode reminded me of one of the things that made me cringe Friday night (tail end recap at the begining) - He said those famous words that people say when they are being total a$$es: "I know you hate me right now, but in time, you will thank me." It is the same thing that Enrique (Arturo Peniche's character in "Victoria" which airs on Telemundo at the same time as Pasion) always tells his ex-wife when he does some other despicable thing. I know Santi has deluded himself into thinking that he has Cami's soul in mind, but mostly he just wants Ric gone so Cami will go back to pining for him (Santi).
Cheryl, I'm Anon 12:20, and I'm sorry you didn't get Pasion. I saw it on Comcast in OR, but I know I am not alone since others on Telenovela World saw it too.
Permalink posted by : Tuesday, March 25, 2008 at 3:29:00 AM EDT
: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 at 3:29:00 AM EDT
I almost missed Pasion last night ! My Monday TV schedule in the daily newspaper listed 2 hours of Diablo [8 to 10 pm] , but I checked Univision at 9 pm , and Pasion was on. If you missed it, check it out on Youtube because it was a good episode with lots happening.~~~Mad Bess [who would be madder if she had missed last night's episode]
Permalink posted by : Tuesday, March 25, 2008 at 6:38:00 AM EDT
: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 at 6:38:00 AM EDT
I too always find that Univision is accurate when they say the next episode will be "manaña", "lunes" or whatever, unless programming is interrupted for a crisis of some kind.
This may be way off topic, but for those who may be interested, Televisa and Univision are currently involved in a court battle as Televisa wants to end their association with Univision. They want to go independent or with another channel. Since they produce all the novelas I've ever seen, I'll be following them if they do indeed break away from Univision.
This may be way off topic, but for those who may be interested, Televisa and Univision are currently involved in a court battle as Televisa wants to end their association with Univision. They want to go independent or with another channel. Since they produce all the novelas I've ever seen, I'll be following them if they do indeed break away from Univision.
That court fight sounds interesting Jestena. Unfortunately Univision and Galavision are the only Spanish channels offered on my satellite package. I think I can get Telemundo if I go to the next tier. To get anything else I'd have to buy the Spanish language package which would be excessive, given that only I speak Spanish at my house.
I have been wondering about changes in programming at Uni for some time. They have been doing more reality TV shows and News programming in the past year. I think they are trying to be taken more seriously as a US national network. That probably means not showing soapoperas for all 3 hours of primetime every night. That doesn't suit our purposes very well but I don't know anything about their business so I can't really say whether it's a good decision or not.
I have been wondering about changes in programming at Uni for some time. They have been doing more reality TV shows and News programming in the past year. I think they are trying to be taken more seriously as a US national network. That probably means not showing soapoperas for all 3 hours of primetime every night. That doesn't suit our purposes very well but I don't know anything about their business so I can't really say whether it's a good decision or not.
Re Santi's green scarf/wearing cream sash. I've always seen the faded green scarf around his neck. He and many of the men wear a sash around the waist, but I don't think the green scarf is long enough to be a sash?? One of the men was using great care in tying his sash in one episode.
Pasion aired Mon. night on my tv.
La Paloma
Pasion aired Mon. night on my tv.
La Paloma
Permalink posted by : Tuesday, March 25, 2008 at 9:41:00 AM EDT
: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 at 9:41:00 AM EDT
I thought of all of you on Monday as Pasion was coming on! What a surprise it WAS ON! And I tried to send ESP vibrations. Hoping most of us caught it.
Now, first I want to say, Santiago needs 40 days and 40 nights at the monestery. And I give the priest approval to sa.aaa.lap him up side the head.
Ophelia is losing ground on her path of common sense. She is tip-toeing probably because of her fear that her good boy will be contaiminated by his biological father. But Ophelia, tell your son EMPHATICALLY that he is being a jealous self-righteous hip-po-crit. Yeah, yeah, yeah you don't want to tell him what to do, BUT tell him what you see him doing. Parenting is never/forever over (...who knew that before they had kids?)_
Now, first I want to say, Santiago needs 40 days and 40 nights at the monestery. And I give the priest approval to sa.aaa.lap him up side the head.
Ophelia is losing ground on her path of common sense. She is tip-toeing probably because of her fear that her good boy will be contaiminated by his biological father. But Ophelia, tell your son EMPHATICALLY that he is being a jealous self-righteous hip-po-crit. Yeah, yeah, yeah you don't want to tell him what to do, BUT tell him what you see him doing. Parenting is never/forever over (...who knew that before they had kids?)_
I vote Ascanio for Mayor Senor of SanFran. He's the only male left fit to lead. Of course there's a longer list of females. Ascanio.oo.o is a man of principle, but unlike the others he values the greater good.
I thought I saw Camilla look at Santiago 'moving in on her', caressing her arm, when he came to visit at the jail. She's no fool. (What a relief.) She was able to use that in her pleading that he spare Ricardo's life.
I thought I saw Camilla look at Santiago 'moving in on her', caressing her arm, when he came to visit at the jail. She's no fool. (What a relief.) She was able to use that in her pleading that he spare Ricardo's life.
uH-oH..I only get Unision, so I hope that it keeps on showing my favorite soaps featuring Fernando and Eduardo.
Permalink posted by : Tuesday, March 25, 2008 at 10:10:00 AM EDT
: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 at 10:10:00 AM EDT
Oh yeah! That family meeting about the disgraceful situation of Camilla being unmarried; oh the shame, well we'll just have to fix this. So absurd. No wonder Ascanio didn't want to get to tight with this family.
And then when Vasco and S_ago were ready to fight Justo was ready to stand up. It would seem Justo is ONLY ready to stand up WHEN someoneelse is ready to fight. So is he really about keeping the peace or is it 'lets all lay dead' and accept what happens to us.
And then when Vasco and S_ago were ready to fight Justo was ready to stand up. It would seem Justo is ONLY ready to stand up WHEN someoneelse is ready to fight. So is he really about keeping the peace or is it 'lets all lay dead' and accept what happens to us.
Justo does not seem to have or hear an innervoice. That could explain why he responds to the loudess or perceived powerful voice around him. I go back to when he stood outside whoreje's palace with Ophelia and she wanted to demand to see Whoreje but Justo wanted her to remain calm since Camilla was already taken to Whorje's bedroom. Justo didn't want to bother Dona Sophia because "there's probably nothing she can do". Justo is weak because he has no will.
He loves Ricardo but he will drop him because he is out of favor.
Good person bad person is used frequently in telenovelas and I'm still trying to understand how this generalized statement about a character is justified. As far as I can see it doesn't seem to require good and or right actions. Example: Vasco has been said to be a good person but until very recently nothing he did was a 'right'action.
AND if the categorizing someone as good or bad is not based on actions then doesn't that make it possible for that pirate, Ricardo, to be a good person(?).
The dilema will be what to feel toward asasin Ascanio.ooo.oo if Justo/Santiago find out he killed a man.
He loves Ricardo but he will drop him because he is out of favor.
Good person bad person is used frequently in telenovelas and I'm still trying to understand how this generalized statement about a character is justified. As far as I can see it doesn't seem to require good and or right actions. Example: Vasco has been said to be a good person but until very recently nothing he did was a 'right'action.
AND if the categorizing someone as good or bad is not based on actions then doesn't that make it possible for that pirate, Ricardo, to be a good person(?).
The dilema will be what to feel toward asasin Ascanio.ooo.oo if Justo/Santiago find out he killed a man.
Green scarf - saw it last night around Santi's neck - so much for that!
I checked Univision website yesterday - put in my city, and looked up the tv schedule. Paison was listed for last night, tonight, and I think Wed. night.
Always check there if in doubt.
I checked Univision website yesterday - put in my city, and looked up the tv schedule. Paison was listed for last night, tonight, and I think Wed. night.
Always check there if in doubt.
Permalink posted by : Tuesday, March 25, 2008 at 12:08:00 PM EDT
: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 at 12:08:00 PM EDT
This is quite late for a comment, but I'm behind in viewing and I always read the recaps and comments but I'm glad to see that someone else (jb-Iron Jack Cash) saw that little snicker for the audience in the interchange between Uriel and Jorge -- a little play on riding or mounting: "Did I understand correctly? That when Uriel was asking Jorge about going mounting ...didn't Jorge say---don't do it before the wedding... and Uriel said of course not, he was talking about mounting the horses, not Ursula!!!" Man, that was hilarious!!! I love it!
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