Monday, November 17, 2008

QE Monday November 17 - Greta, please just jump off the bridge already

I’m writing this around noon on Sunday, I sure hope that Tontas has episodes all over youtube like this show did. It saved me. I have my monthly evening meeting tomorrow and as usual I forgot to find a substitute. Thank you youtube. If anyone finds Tontas on youtube, please post the link as a topic or in our comments. I think more and more of us are watching episodes online when we miss them at home.

Sara and Bruno have set the stage for Fafy to get in a car accident. I’m sure CSI would solve the crime in 10 minutes, but crime pays in novela-world. Fafy starts his car, fluid leaks out the bottom onto the pavement. Grissom would notice this, then find the knife that cut the line and match up the grooves. Bruno and Sara agree to keep up their normal routing to throw off the cops.

Alonso talks to Lorena on the phone, Alonso wants to pour his heart out. Lorena doesn’t want to hear it just yet, neither does Valeria, who walked into Alonso’s office and overheard. He does get Lorena to agree to meet up later. Alonso the dunce then tells Valeria all about how he is going to win Lorena again. He even asks her for advice. She looks like she wants to throw up but being the awesome doctor that he is, Alonso doesn’t notice. This reminds me of Pamela in Heridas de Amor. She was ten times hotter than any of the other women on the show but was relegated to backup/loser status. Valeria deserves better.

Jimena tries to drive the wedge a bit further, telling Ern that evidence points to Lorena preferring Alonso to him.

Valeria tells Alonso why he’s so awesome and he again doesn’t see that she’s pining for him. They move on to business. They discuss a colonoscopy. How romantic. Alonso drops the friend zone curse on Valeria some more and gives her a kiss on the cheek. Her reaction leaves no doubt as to how she feels but Alonso is stupid.

Ern wants to figure out how to get in with Lorena again.

Jorge shows up to talk to Bettina. I hate this kid.

Felipe shows up with gifts for Saulito. He is trying to come on stronger but it is too strong. Diana is obviously not interested.

Jorge tries to sweet talk Bettina, but she smartly and rightly calls him out as a dog, hitting on his best friend’s girl. I thought she had a better memory than this – Ivan told her specifically that it was Jorge who said love letters were stupid and then Jorge himself wrote one. She has shown herself to be much smarter than that, I hope she remembers soon. If nothing else she should realize this kid is creepy and should rat him out to Ivan. And yes I’m groaning because my baby girl is due in a couple months and some day I’m going to have to fight little rat finks like this kid away from the house.

Vasco and Paty make up from their disagreement the night before, but then Vasco sees Felipe and Diana together. Paty thinks it makes htem almost married, Vasco of course seems to still be in love with Diana.

Oh I really hate this Jorge kid now – I will have to go to dialogue style so this isn’t a paragraph of “he said he and she and he said he” stuff.
Jorge – I only came over here because Ivan said you were broken up already.
Bettina – No, we’re just in a fight.
Jorge – Ivan told me you guys were broken up, not just fighting
Bettina – He said that?
Jorge – it’s about that card he would write, right?
Bettina – none of your beeswax, and your hair looks stupid (ok it was me who said the hair part)
Jorge – yeah I was with him when he wouldn’t write that letter to you, he didn’t write it for you on purpose, to start a fight.
Bettina – it was just an excuse to make us break up?
Jorge – Yeah, well, you’re too little girly for him, he wants someone more mature.
Bettina – I don’t believe you. And you shouldn’t have come here and said all this.
Jorge – Hey open your eyes, Ivan doesn’t want you any more.
Bettina – I don’t want to hear this, get out and take your stupid hair with you.
Jorge says something that sounded like calling her stupid and leaves the room. Loser. I hope Bettina does what normal people would do, and calls Ivan right away to clarify. The whole thing could be resolved in minutes and stupid hair Jorge could be sent packing, but I’m sure they will fight until the Gran Final (which was just announced as being on Friday Nov 28, the day after Thanksgiving).

Diana says thanks to Felipe for the gift, but seems like she wants him to leave. Paty and Vasco arrive, Paty makes sure to lay a big kiss on Vasco to mark her territory. Vasco asks to go inside and see Zulema, Diana follows him in, leaving Paty and Felipe outside. Felipe is upset because nothing he is doing is working with Diana, he thinks she’s still in love with Vasco. Paty tells him to keep trying, harder and harder, obviously not caring if he succeeds as long as it keeps her away from Vasco. Paty even gets mad at Felipe for wanting to throw in the towel. In the end Felipe says forget it. Paty looks pissed.

Stupid hair Jorge runs into Ivan out on the street outside Bettina’s house and makes me hate him more. He tells Ivan he was there because Bettina found HIM in the chatroom online and invited HIM over and wants to go out with him. He claims to have shot her down because of his friendship with Ivan. Ivan says he’s here to apologize for not writing the love letter. Jorge says don’t bother and leads him away. Come on Ivan! I don’t want 8 days of this.

Vasco acts a little jealous about Felipe, on the inside Diana exults. They make small talk back and forth while each thought bubbling how much they want each other if the other one would only make a move. Vasco accepts a cup of coffee and they look dopey at each other.

Sara is in the office and gets a call on her cell phone looking for Fafy. She says she doesn’t know where he is. After hanging up, she realizes that being at work on a Sunday will make her look quite suspicious, so she decides to leave. Out in the hall, someone sneaks up behind her and grabs her, covering her mouth. Snap her neck! Oh no, it’s just Fafy. He came to get her. Why did he grab her that way? He wants her to go shopping with him. Of course she doesn’t want to get into the car. Fafy tells her that before he left the house, Santiago showed up and wanted to be his caddy, so they came in Santiago’s car. They stopped off to look at some horrible beast of a car from the 70s. I think Santiago wants to buy it and wants Fafy to check it out. Something happened, there was an accident or something, somehow in all this his golf clubs got ruined and now he needs to buy some new ones. Sara wants to be anywhere but getting into this car, dripping brake fluid or whatever all over the pavement.

Lorena meets up with Alonso at the mall, he cluelessly starts in on her again about how much he loooooves her and she’s getting tired of it. She shuts him down again. But of course she keeps doing that smiley so obviously flattered thing she does, so why she expects him to stop I have no idea. Probably the same reason all the pretty girls do that, no matter how much they torture someone, they are gluttons for attention.

Bettina is looking at her e-mail and stressing. Paula wants to know what’s up, Bettina fills her in – Ivan’s friend is after her, now he sent her an e-mail saying the same thing, yes he knows about Ivan but doesn’t seem to care. She tells Paula that supposedly Ivan thinks she’s immature, Paula says Bettina is more mature than she herself is! Paula tells her to be careful, this kid sounds like bad news.

Alonso must be whipped, because he is willingly following Lorena around while she looks at clothes. I guess Lorena is trying to find something for Zulema. Alonso buys her a scarf, pushing his agenda all the while. Leaving the store, Lorena asks what he needs to shop for now. He makes up something stupid, she figures out he just came to see her and he admits it. Man is she dumb. She thinks a guy who is totally in love with her will actually, voluntarily, not act on it. Yeah right. She agrees to having coffee.

Sara is aiming a gun at Fafy in the sporting goods store, wishing he would invite her to a safari so she could shoot him. Bruno calls and Sara fills him in on Santiago saving Fafy by accident. Turns out the store doesn’t have golf clubs. The lady at the store calls Sara Fafy’s daughter, Sara loudly says she isn’t his daughter and Fafy says she’s his girlfriend. Then Sara for some reason gets mad at Fafy for saying that. ??? She gets mad at being called daughter, then mad at him for saying she’s his girlfriend. Nope, still doesn’t make sense. Perhaps she’s coming unglued.

Alonso and Lorena have some cold drink that is clear and certainly not coffee. He tries to talk love with her again and she tells him to knock it off. AGAIN. Sara and Fafy take a table near them. Alonso sees and tells Lorena to casually look around, which she does. The ‘look casual’ part is pointless, as Sara has spotted them and is just staring her evil glare. Fafy is trying to talk her down from her anger in the store, Sara just fumes about Lorena being there with Alonso. She is cursing Lorena, Fafy thinks she’s cussing about the woman at the store. Alonso and Lorena STARE at them as Fafy plants a kiss on Sara. I was waiting for them to say ‘EWWWWWWWWW!!!’ like I did, but no. Sara is humiliated. She stares at them some more. Lorena and Alonso decide they don’t have to leave just because Sara showed up. Sure you don’t HAVE to but I think I would anyway.

Ern is grocery shopping and is accosted by a heavy woman who wants to tell him how handsome he is. The lady is sure that he and Lorena are in love with each other, they can tell from seeing them on TV. Ern denies it all and says they hate each other. He keeps looking over his shoulder, as the worst detective in the entire world pretends to shop behind him. Wearing a long coat and hat in the middle of the same store where everyone else is wearing short sleeves. He’s nervous about being caught by THIS guy? Give me a break.

Alonso and Lorena watch Sara and can’t believe who she’s with. Sara is just dying from embarrassment.

Ern runs into Maruja and Rosy, he whispers about the detective and Rosy and Maruja launch into a loud attack on him about the horrible things he did to Lorena. On his way past them, he winks and whispers ‘thank you’. For good measure, Rosy yells “Maldito!” after him as he walks away. Then she and Maruja laugh and give each other a high five. Funny scene.

Sara continues to fume. She wants to leave. Fafy says he’s going to the bathroom, he doesn’t want to leave. I have to say that I am sick to death of seeing Sara’s face. I’m tired of it. All she does is gripe and curse. Alonso gets the bright idea for he and Lorena to act like they are together, to torture Sara. Yeah Alonso I see where you’re going with this and I have to say GREAT move. Lorena totally falls for it (as I said before she can be stupid). Alonso wastes no time cuddling up and planting a big kiss on Lorena. Well played Alonso, well played. Excellently played. When Lorena backs off she tells him that she is going to smack the hell out of him once Sara isn’t watching. Alonso says “it was to convince her!” Lorena of course doesn’t believe it, but then smiles at him like you’d smile at a kid who did something bad but backed it up with good logic. And she wonders why Alonso keeps trying. When you keep rewarding him, Lorena, he’s going to keep coming back for more. DUH.

Greta is getting drunk, Jimena on her end of the phone call talks loudly about Lorena in earshot of Ern’s kids, how Lorena is now with Alonso, apparently. The kids scowl. What an evil woman. Back on her end, Greta whines about Omar. Blech.

Alonso flirts with Lorena, who is trying to be tough with him. She’s not selling it very well. Alonso doesn’t care, he tells her he loves her a few times. Fafy comes back to his table, he can tell Sara is having some issue with Lorena and Alonso at the other table. I might even think that Fafy is getting the tiniest bit tired of Sara. She claims to not be staring at the other table, Fafy tells her he’s not stupid, don’t treat him as if he is. He wants to know what’s up with those two at the other table. She finally spins some story about Lorena being her sister who betrayed her so horribly! Lorena and Alonso decide to leave, they walk past Sara grinning right at her and laughing. Heh. Nice one. Outside the food court, Lorena tries to act mad at Alonso but he isn’t having it. She pushes him off a bit, he doesn’t take it well and acts pouty. He claims AGAIN that he won’t push any more. He also says he isn’t going to pretend with Sara any more since he thought she was all alone but here she is with her lover. He’s staying away from her completely. Good call Alonso. Wow how many times have I congratulated Alonso on a good move or decision today? I just realized. Wow.

Sara continues her tale of woe to Fafy, who tries to act like he cares but fails. He gets the same look that he gets when Santiago won’t shut up. He says she left, let’s move on. Sara won’t move on. She wants to cry and whine some more. Fafy rightfully says wtf, you have everything you want now, get over it! He says losers stay hung up on the past, winners move forward. She promises to move on, totally lying.

Hortensia visits Omar in his bachelor pad, which looks very depressing. Hort reminds him that it was his cheating before the coma that is the problem, not what happened later. We all agree I think. He beats himself up a bit over what he did.

Jimena wants to send Greta to rehab. She needs it. Who is watching her kid while she drinks and cries? Jimena tells Greta that of course Omar bailed after the scenes Greta made with his family. Greta cries over her lost friends. Jimena says that they weren’t her true friends, but Greta says that they were. Yes they really were, Greta is the one who screwed it all up. She continues to whine about ending it all. Jimena tells her to shut up about that or she’s not coming over any more.

Rosy and Marjua tell Zulema about their adventure at the grocery store. They then discuss how much they all want to have sex with Ernesto. Well they talk about how much they want Lorena to choose Ern, but hearing them, Rosy and Maruja at least, they want a roll for themselves first, it sounds like. Zulema drops the news that Lorena is hanging out with Alonso. They think the balance is tipping towards Alonso. Zulema now wants to know what’s up with Rosy and Julian. Rosy accidently mentions the baby, Zulema says Lorena already told her, Rosy laments that nobody can keep a secret. They all smile and hug a lot.

Raimundo and Paula together visit with Toribio at Paula’s house. They all get along well. The Riamundo relationship seems to be going well.

Alonso visits with Bettina. She tells him about the boys. They both think that Jorge is up to no good. Bettina wants to discuss it with Ivan but she doesn’t want to go to him to ask. Alonso advises her to find him and talk it out.

Raimundo says goodbye and timidly kisses Paula. Toribio turns around so they can kiss properly. After he leaves, Toribio says his instinct is that Rai is loco – loco in love with Paula. Ha ha ha oh Toribio you card. Paula says she’s all fluttery for Raimundo. Toribio is happy to see Paula happy and says soon Alonso will be back with Lorena and all will be well.

Lorena gives Zulema the new clothes she bought for her, with help from Diana. She tells Zulema how Alonso won’t shut up about loving her. Zulema says Alonso is like that, just like Felipe with Diana. Diana says Felipe’s nice, but…. Lorena says “yeah he isn’t Vasco.” Diana agrees without actually agreeing and changes the subject. Zulema manages to accidently tell Diana that Rosy is pregnant. Now everyone knows except for Julian. Which is totally not fair but I guess I understand. Lorena worries for a bit about Sara.

Sara wakes up calling ‘Alonso’. Bruno comes in saying Fafy drove off in the car. For some reason Sara is worried, but Bruno is happy about it. Bruno is ready to celebrate right here and now. Sara is very worried, I guess about getting caught.

Ern plays with a video camera in the kitchen.

Sara shows up at Alonso’s house and yells at him for lying to her. Alonso calls out her lies right back.

Bruno calls Sara and tells her voicemail that he’s at the office, where is she? He barges into Sara’s office and finds Fafy there. Fafy asks him, “what are you doing here at my company, Bruno?” Great question.

Preview – Ern uses the video camera to catch Sara admitting something, Fafy figures out that Sara is bad news.

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Here's a link to the first episode of Tontas, Chris. I've found that all the shows are on YouTube. I've been watching them too.
 

P.S. Once you find the first episode, it's very easy to keep linking back to the next one, as that poster tends to keep uploading them every day as a labor of love.

YouTube seems to have an algorithm where they make available the next episodes or segments when you look at the sidebar next to the episode you're watching. Since the show is long over in Mexico, the whole thing should be available now.
 

Great recap Ferro, My oldest son is 14 and I could feel Ivan's pain. I'm on the other side of the coin and I can tell you that more often that not I have to fight with little "devoradoras de hombres" that call constantly asking for him. About the show on line there is a whole blog dedicated to the novelas is call telelloronas. This is the link http://telelloronas.com/vlog/ in here all the novelas are neatly organized by chapter, making it easy to locate the chapter you want to watch without spoils. Wouldn't it be fun if Sara goes in the car with Fafy?
 

BTW Ninak how do you insert a link in the comments?
 

You have to cut and paste from a regular post, so I create a temporary post that I use for this purpose, and then I delete it. Do you know how to put in a link in main blog posts? There is a linking tool. (You could also type in tedious html codes in the comment, but who wants to do that?)

For example, in the comment I posted above, I created a draft post in "compose" mode with the words you see. I highlighted the words "first episode of Tontas" and then clicked on the Blogger linking button. There is a dialog box that appears, where you paste in the url from the link you want. The words end up in blue. Then I switch to the html mode so the link is seen in html language instead of blue. (You can do this even if you are not a Caray recapper, using your own blog.)

I copy the entire post and paste it into a comment box. When you publish or preview the comment, the html language magically turns back into a blue link.

If anyone knows a shorter way to do this, please advise! I learned how to do the links in main posts from Julie. Then I came up with the idea of cutting and pasting for comments, as I couldn't figure out any other way.
 

Ferro, you never disappoint, youtube or whatever the source! Thanks for the great recap! (I’ve just realized I’m going to have to use youtube to do my part of the Gran Final or hold everyone up since November 28 is the actual date of my mother’s 80th and she’ll be at my house so my sis and I can take her out to eat—we already had a pre-birthday at her house so my brother from overseas could join us. Hooray for youtube!)


Love the title, too, Ferro. We have a new pedestrian bridge across a major river that the powers that be just realized will need suicide proof sides, now that the bridge has been constructed and opened for several weeks. It’s available for Greta’s use immediately before they fix it.


“Grissom would notice this, then find the knife that cut the line and match up the grooves” LOL! That thought crossed my mind. They’re really pushing their luck here. Even the telenovelas can’t make the Mexican police look like tontos forever and get away with it.


“Jimena tries to drive the wedge a bit further, telling Ern that evidence points to Lorena preferring Alonso to him.” This woman is a major b***h. I hope she gets a terrible ending.


“Jorge shows up to talk to Bettina. I hate this kid.” I like Margarita’s suggestion on Friday. Let’s isolate him in the crowd. He could actually be one of the in crowd if he wasn’t such a loser.


“And yes I’m groaning because my baby girl is due in a couple months and some day I’m going to have to fight little rat finks like this kid away from the house.” LOL All our empathy is with you.

NinaK, THANKS for the Tontas link, and the protocol for linking!

Maricruz, it surely sounds like a mixed blessing that your son is so popular. (Sigh).


Jeanne
 

Thanks for the recap Ferro. I'm totally with you on Valeria. She deserves so much better. I'm hoping the writers make Al's falling for her somewhat realistic b/c she's great.

YouTube gave you previews which is great b/c in regular viewing we will keep getting the Grand Finale promo.
 

Ferro, my favorite part was when Fafy snuck up on Sara and you yelled at him to "Snap her neck!" Too bad he didn't listen. I've become quite fond of Fafy which is too bad because I am now pretty sure his days, or hours, are numbered.

I think we might have to change Alonslow's name to Alonslower. Could he be any dumber? Answer: No.

I loathe that little toad Jorge. I hope Ivan punches him in the nose.

Excellent recap! Thanks for the laughs.
 

Thanks Ferro...I always enjoy hearing the male perspective on romance and laughed out loud at your "drops the friend zone curse" phrase.

Is it realistic that Alonso doesn't get that Valeria is interested in him? A friend read some Esquire article that said if you even just say "Hey, that suit looks great on you", the guy will think, Hmmm...she wants to have sex with me.

Well, whatever, we DO know Alonso is exceptionally dumb when it comes to women.

I could do without the side story of Ivan/Bettin/Toad Boy. One more annoyance. Let's get on with the good stuff!

I am ready to say good-bye to Sara as well...especially that strange little crease above her upper lip when she's looking angry. Hopefully the teeniny picture of Youtube obscured that. More weird plastic surgery in Mexico I guess.
 

Why hasn't it occurred to Ernesto that he can use someone else's phone to call Lorena? There's only so much that the detective can figure out.

He could also create a Yahoo email account in five minutes. The detective won't know about that either. Ern can use that to email Lorena or possibly send text messages to her phone.

As for linking within comments, I find the "tedious html" far less bother than creating a temporary blog post! You just do it like this:

[a href="http://www.cnn.com"]This is the text you click[/a]

Except with angle brackets instead of square brackets. There's not much extra typing involved, assuming that you cut and paste the actual url.
 

Judy, that article is closer to the truth than what Alonso is doing. While not every man thinks every woman wants him, any straight man in the world would have certainly noticed Valeria and been on the lookout for some interest. Even if there was no intent to act on that interest, we'd all be on the lookout for it, to feed the ego. The whole idea that he is blind to that much hottie in that close proximity is ridiculous.
 

I got it ninak!telelloronas
Julie, I understand that it is easier to type the code, but for me (con cabeza de Teflon, you know? nothing sticks)is much easier to let the machine do it and then copy and paste.
 

Ferro, FWIW--not EVERY man is as alert as you to signals. I am afraid to say that my hubby is in the Alonslow school here--he never registered the signals gals threw off unless they were slobbering tangibly on him. I have enlightened him on how to look for the signals, though.....with a warning that he can register the signals and then ignore them. It was a self-protection inservice I gave him there. He was astonished to realize the signals he was getting. Some of them were from colleagues of mine and I was present. This really opened his eyes and proved my point to him--he honestly didn't believe me when I told him gals were hitting on him.

:-)

Jeanne
 

Ferro, don't worry too much about the little Jorge's preying on your daughter. All the boys or young men who came to visit my daughter were always nice, smart, honest, etc. (I think!!). She's now 27 and engaged to a great guy.

JudyB, I agree that most guys immediately pick up on whether a girl wants to be more than friends. But as we know, Alonso has his own unique form of denseness (density?).

The show is really fun to watch as they tease us - twice already with Fafy showing up unexpectedly. And most of the characters seem to be pairing up, with just little snags preventing the happy conclusion (although of course, we still have no idea who Lorena will end up with). But what about Toribio? He had 3 ladyfriends, none of whom worked out. Does Valeria have a mother?

One more thing. Don't expensive cars, like Fafy's, have sensors that tell you when the brake fluid is low?
 

Julie, that's so funny! Every time I try to type html codes, I end up with typos and it takes me twice as long. I can do the cutting and pasting much faster.
 

Hey, Hombre, that's a good point about the warning lights! It's not just the expensive cars, either. The Toyota Tercel I had 20 years ago had a brake fluid warning light!
 

And I also agree that a lot of men are totally oblivious to signals of any kind.

Obviously, not all of them are, but quite a few are. Like the guy at work who didn't get why one of the women kept asking him (and only him) to walk her out to her car each night, after dark, even when it wasn't particularly dark.
 

Oh - and the look on Valeria's face was priceless. "I'll never wash this cheek again!"

I'm pretty sure a guy like Ernesto would pick up on that. A guy like Alonso, not so much. Sara pretty much had to throw herself on top of him to get him to notice that she was female.
 

DOES ANYONE KNOW IF THE CAST WILL APPEAR ON THE CRISTINA SHOW AT THE END...??? I WOULD JUST LOVE IT...!!! ANN
 

I'm pretty sure they will appear on Cristina, Ann. This just seems to be tradition, at least for the evening telenovelas.

Always interesting to see the actors being more like their "real selves" (or something) than the character they played on the show.

Alas, I realized I was in love with Jaime Camil as Fernando in Fea Mas Bella, not the ACTUAL Jaime Camil. Well, considering that I'm old enough to be his mama, guess that's not bad after all. But it WAS a letdown.
 

Thanks for the fabu recap and snark on this one Ferro!

Julie, Sara's supposed to be some super duper computer wiz that somehow infiltrated Ern's computer (or so Ern overheard her telling Bruto). Thus, even if he creates a new e-mail account, Sara can still find it if it's from his computer. Now, he could go to an internet cafe, open an account, etc., but that would probably rise suspicion. OTOH, a disposable cell phone would be a lot more practical (he could have Ivan pick it up for him) and Sara would be less likely to find ways to trace it (he thinks she may have bugged his phones too).

My two (or I guess three) cents on the whole "are guys clueless or not:" Back in my 20s, I had a guy that would follow me around, constantly ask me out, send me flowers and a copy of Catcher in the Rye (in what universe he thought sending a girl this book and telling her it would would offer great insight into his mind would make her more interested I have no idea). I remember telling my guy friends I had tried really hard to make him understand I just wanted to be friends. They asked what I'd done and I replied "I told him I just wanted to be friends, many times." They explained that for some guys, especially the desperate and insistent kind, this left hope; kind of like how 'Slow keeps asking Lore for coffee and takes her mom on walks and such, figuring one day she'll give in. Still, this all happened AFTER he had a chance.

The other extreme I can put two examples for: 1) my own hubby. After spending hours together at a party and recommending he visit the Parthenon when he went to Nashville (seriously, it's pretty cool), I finally had to e-mail him and ask him out before he had any clue that I was interested. No more hinting was required after that. 2) My old boss met her current husband many years before they dated, when they were both still married to other people. They re-met at another gathering as they were going through their respective divorces and the guy couldn't remember her at all. Seems at the time, he only had eyes for his wife. Go figure.
 

Well then I guess it all comes down to that I have a huge crush on Valeria. Maybe I have been clueless over the years and never even found out how clueless I was. I would hate to think I missed out on some good opportunities from just being a dumbass. I guess I'll never know. Or care, for that matter, now that I don't have to care about that stuff any more.
 

Indeed Ferro, you have a lovely wife and don't need to worry about who's hitting on you elsewhere ;) Now about guys hitting on her.... (Just kidding! LOL!).
 

I doubt you were clueless, Ferro. Not all men are. Just a frustrating number of them.

And, like Margarita described, some see encouragement when none is intended.
 

JudyB, you are so right--I remember being disappointed in the real Jaime in the Cristina show, and that has happened with some of the later casts too.

I don't like Valentino (Keebler Elf) Lanus (my only experience with him is in the odious Amar), but he will be balanced out by Jaime.
 

Thanks, Ferro~~~I'll have to agree that some guys are clueless about being hit on [hub]...not a clue...ever. Others think every woman wants them...as if. Alonslo is somewhere in outer space. As to how Ernie could reach Lorena through technology if he were savvy ...I'm just really thankfully that these folks have cellphones unlike the populace of Mexidoon in Fuego..and everyone is spaced out there except for Ferd who thinks he's the smartest man alive and everybody wants him....he's kind of the anti-Alonslo.
 

I am actually starting to like Fafy. Who knew that he was a philosopher....''Losers hold on to the past ; winners move forward.'' I hope he survives Sara/Bruno. Do you think he knows that Hefner traded in his three live-in chicks for 19 year-old twins ??? Maybe Fafy would like to give one, two, or three Hef's trade-ins a whirl. I'm sure that none of them are as high maintenance as Sara ..and they probably wouldn't try to kill him. I enjoy watching Sara's little rectangular mouth ... very expressive.
 

Ooh, I'm looking forward to Jaime. Although, I didn't mind Valentino in Amar, at least when he wasn't doing anything. Whenever he tried to think, I just wanted to smack him, because he was such an idiot.

Ha, speaking of men who think every woman wants them, just two days ago a guy was persistently asking me out, and refused to believe that I didn't want to go out with him. This was immediately after he told me I look like I've gained a lot of weight since he last saw me (which, btw, I HAVE NOT). Ugh.

Ernesto and Lorena and the gang need to set up an elaborate spy code system, with disguises and clandestine meetings and videorecorders concealed in lipsticks and whatnot. Maybe a trap door or revolving bookcase. Notes passed through items left on library shelves and under bus seats. Why do we not have an over-involved priest here to get in the middle of it?
 

Hi there! I have not comment here in a while. I have been watching off and on since October.

NinaK, thanks for the link. I want to watch Las Tontas No Van al Cielo since Al Diablo Con Los Guapos finish. They showed Candy's clinic in an episode of Al diablo. I like her then. I love Jaime Camil and also Valentino Lanus. Two dream guys against each other over the main lady. This is going to be interesting.

NinaK, if you watch YouTube you already know the end of this novela "Querida Enemiga". I watch YouTube at times. I know what happens, but I don't let others know to spoil it for them. Write to me sometimes, so we can talk about what we saw.

Thanks to all! Enjoy your comments.

By the way, QE Grand Finale is on 11.27.08 (Thanksgiving Day) or the next day 11.28.08. Please let me know which one?

Genevieve
 

Julia, believe it or not, that kind of negative comment is believed to be a surefire way to pick up girls. If you've seen the odious show "the Pickup Artist" on VH1, the bizaare host actually advocates that. He calls it "negging." I sometimes watch that show in morbid fascination.

Genevieve, sorry, but I haven't watched a single episode of Querida Enemiga! I'm just commenting today because I like all the folks here. I watched Guapos ahead on Youtube, and I'm watching ahead sometimes on Cuidado. I have also previewed a bit of Tontas and En Nombre del Amor.
 

They've also talked about the negative remark thing on Ugly Betty and Big Bang Theory.

Genevieve, the final episode is on Friday the 28th (and it's on an hour later than usual).

There won't be an episode on Thursday the 27th. I think they're going to rerun the second-to-last episode at the usual time on Friday, then the final afterwards.
 

Hmmm...negging...So does the guy say , '' Those are horrible shoes...Do you want to go out to dinner and a movie this Saturday???'' Maybe the idea is to shake the girls confidence . Odd approach. I've never watched The Pickup Artist .
 

Hmmm...negging is a new one to me too. The Pickup Artist sounds like a guide to losers. I've always found that the Icy Stare is the best way to treat that sort of thing.
 

I saw the episode of Big Bang Theory (awesome show) where Howard talked about dropping 'negs' to get in with a girl. I didn't realize it was a phenomenon. Let me say again how much I enjoy not having to care about that.
 

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