Friday, April 09, 2010
El Clon, Fri, April 9- We finally move forward in time but the plot - not so much
Cristina loses the high-stakes game she was playing as she is declared Armando's wife. Leo gives her a little smile, drops the glove she gave him and leaves.
She heads for the Ladies with Dora and Vicki right behind. She vows that she will make Leo regret what he has done. She will get married (me caso). "But Cristina," says Dora, "you already got married (ya te casaste)." "What have I done!" she wails.
Although Leo is assaulted with flashbacks as he drives home from the wedding, he says that he has finally freed himself from Cristina.
Now we move forward 3 years indicated by Daniel changing from the little Aztec baby as they call him over on TW to an older child. Albieri has been spoiling the child rotten for the last three years so that, as her mother predicted, he doesn't want to be with Dora, he wants to be with 'his father.' [What happened to Julio's concern that Dora be told the truth?]
Latifa has finally gotten pregnant. As usual when Mohamed is deeply moved, he refers to himself in the third person.
Mohamed says that their baby will be born in Morocco. They will go immediately. The happy news reaches Morocco. Nariza pretends to be happy for Latifa. This news gives her less to complain about and diminishes her status in the family. Said tells Jade that the only thing alloying the happiness of the news is that she isn't carrying his baby.
Mohamed distributes food to what appears to be total strangers in celebration of the news. [Mohamed and Latifa are really a cute couple and about the only sympathetic characters in the novela.]
Joy and celebration reign as Mohamed and Latifa return to Ali's house except for Nariza, appropriately dressed in black, who says that the baby had better be a boy.
Up in her room, Latifa tells Jade that the child will be a boy, named Mohamed. She tells Jade that she is very happy and asks Jade if she is happy with her rich husband who covers her with gold. Jade tell Latifa that she if she had another chance, she would live her life the same way, so wonderful was the happiness she had with Lucas. Latifa suggest that she will feel differently when she has children. Jade says that she won't have any children.
Lucas tells Rosa that he doesn't want any more children.
Said tells Jade that he wants a child and he is taking her to doctor. [Of course, he assumes that it is her fault.] Then Jade sees an opportunity. She tells Said that the best fertility doctor is in Miami in the US. She claims not to remember the doctor's name and suggests that they not tell Uncle Ali about this. Said asks why and Jade replies that Ali thinks the best doctors are in Morocco and it would be kinder not to disillusion him and maybe the treatment would be for both of them. Said says no, Muslim men are very fertile.
Zoraida gives Latifa a folk remedy for morning sickness - holding a key. Then she and Jade retire to the kitchen for a chat. She tells Zoraida about the Miami trip. Zoraida can't believe that Said would take Jade to the same city where Lucas lives. Jade replies that she hasn't mentioned Lucas in years; Said has forgotten about him. But for her time hasn't passed. She loves him as much as she did before. Zoraida says that time doesn't pass for Jade. That's what she read in the coffee grounds. Except that it wasn't. Here, from Paula's recap of the Feb 24 episode is what Zoraida read in the coffee grounds:
“A love that will last your entire life. Joy that turns to sadness that turns to joy.” Jade inserts, with excitement, “Then we’ll be together! He’s el amor de mi vida! I knew it the moment I saw him!” Zoraida continues, “You’ll meet the same man two times (i.e. Jade will meet him for the first time, twice. Time will pass for you but not for him. The past and the future will cross in front of you, and you will decide whether to take the path that leads backwards, or to continue forward. Love will last a lifetime, but it doesn’t say you will be together. Perhaps you will lose him and re-find him later.”
Bad prophecy? Sloppy writing?
Jade wonders if Lucas still thinks of her.
Well, of course he does. To illustrate this, Leo is playing some really kitchy Moroccan music. Lucas turns off the CD player. Always sympathetic to the feelings of others, Leo tells Lucas to grow up and if he doesn't like the music, he can go to his room. [Whatever happened to, 'this is now your house, treat me like a guest?']
Danelito #3 is not a great actor. He tells his mom that he doesn't want to be poor like her and insists that Albieri is his father. When Dora says that Albieri is only his godfather, the kid wants to know who his father is.
Luisa wants to take Danielito to visit the Ferrers and she can't understand why Albieri keeps making excuses about why this can't happen. Albieri is interrupted by Danielito calling to ask Albieri to pick him up. He says that he is Daniel's father.
We see that of course Danielito has the birthmark that Diego and Lucas had/have. Marisa sees the birthmark on Lucas and he tells her for our benefit that Natalia will not have it. It is inherited from the mother. Then Marisa tells her friend that Lucas is so not like Diego. Diego was passionate and all the girls adored him. She says that it was strange. She lost the man that she adored and then all of a sudden, there he was. She mentions that when she met Lucas he had a Moroccan girlfriend, nothing serious. When her friend asks if she knows where the old girlfriend is now, Marisa says that she hopes that she is lost in the desert sands and never shows up again.
Jade, of course, is hoping for the opposite. She tells Zoraida that Said will tell her whether she can go to Miami with him after the party for Latifa. Zoraida hopes the answer is no. She is afraid of what would happen if Said and Lucas came face to face. Jade says that she won't get close to Lucas. She made the promise to Allah to give him up if his life was spared. If she had the courage to do it then, she can do it now.
A spying servant (who seems to have learned Spanish while Jade hasn't learned any Arabic) has told Ali about Jade's plan to go to Miami. Ali is totally opposed and says that he will convince Said not to permit the trip.
Jade tells Zoraida that they will see who has more power over Said, Ali or her.
Jade knows how to persuade Said. She gets all gussied up for the party.
When Nariza makes snide comments about how much gold Said is throwing away on her, Said tells her not to pay attention. He says that Nariza has a 'carácter fuerte,' a strong personality, a euphemism for someone who is really obnoxious. But, he continues, she has a good heart. "She works hard to hide it," replies Jade. Said tells Jade how much he loves her and that he will give her anything. "Take me to Miami," says Jade.
Leo recalls to Enrique that it was in this bar that he saw Cristina the day that Natalia was born. Enrique says that he hasn't seen Cristina around. Leo replies that he believes that she went to Argentina with her husband. Enrique says it is too bad that Leo couldn't get past what happened with Cristina and Diego. Leo replies that it's worse than that. He says he will never forgive himself for not preventing the accident that killed Diego. He should have paid more attention to Diego but instead he was besotted with Cristina. [So Leo is going to torture himself with guilt about not paying enough attention to the son he no longer has while he pays no attention to the problems of the son he still has. Way to go, Leo.]
Of course, Cristina is now arriving back in Miami.
Dora tells Vicki that she has heard Osvaldo is back in town and she is dying to see him. There is at knock at the door. It's Cristina.
She fills us in on what happened with Armando. He was a swindler - all lies. He never had any money. One day he just vanished and now his creditors are after her. She lost the money Leo gave her in a bad investment so now she is dead broke. However, she says that Leo will pay for all that has happened because it was his fault- he didn't stop her wedding to Armando.
At the party for Latifa, Ali doles out wisdom from the Koran to Mohamed and Latifa while Jade bewitches Said with her dancing. He is like putty in her hands and agrees to take her to Miami.
When they arrive, Said takes Jade to a nice hotel. He says that he was only in Miami before when he was a boy and doesn't remember anything. Jade announces that since they are in America, she is taking off her veil. Said refuses to let her. She must not show herself to anyone but him. Jade won't give up. She points out that the Koran does not require that a woman cover herself and that many women in Morocco don't wear a veil. Said replies that all the women in his family cover themselves. Her beauty is reserved just for him. He doesn't want her to 'exhibit' herself to any other men. We see how seriously Jade takes her vow not to see Lucas. As soon as Said goes to take a shower, Jade looks up the telephone number of the Ferrer house and calls on her cell.
We don't see who, if anyone, answers the call. Lucas is playing tennis. He agrees to meet Marisa later at a restaurant.
Cristina shows up at Leo's office. Now here's how I would have written it: Cristina: 'Leo, I behaved like a complete idiot in marrying Armando to make you jealous. How about we start over as friends and have lunch.' But no. Cristina rants and raves. She accuses Leo of ruining her life and asks why he didn't stop her from marrying Armando and throws her unpaid bills on his desk.
Of course, of all the restaurants in Miami, Jade and Said are in the same one where Marisa is waiting for Lucas. [We seemed to have missed something here. The woman with Marisa at the pool and at the restaurant is named Adriana and since she arrives with Enrique, she must be his wife or girlfriend.] When Jade goes to the bathroom, Marisa hears Said say her name. She instantly knows that this is Lucas's Jade.
The credits roll.
She heads for the Ladies with Dora and Vicki right behind. She vows that she will make Leo regret what he has done. She will get married (me caso). "But Cristina," says Dora, "you already got married (ya te casaste)." "What have I done!" she wails.
Although Leo is assaulted with flashbacks as he drives home from the wedding, he says that he has finally freed himself from Cristina.
Now we move forward 3 years indicated by Daniel changing from the little Aztec baby as they call him over on TW to an older child. Albieri has been spoiling the child rotten for the last three years so that, as her mother predicted, he doesn't want to be with Dora, he wants to be with 'his father.' [What happened to Julio's concern that Dora be told the truth?]
Latifa has finally gotten pregnant. As usual when Mohamed is deeply moved, he refers to himself in the third person.
Mohamed says that their baby will be born in Morocco. They will go immediately. The happy news reaches Morocco. Nariza pretends to be happy for Latifa. This news gives her less to complain about and diminishes her status in the family. Said tells Jade that the only thing alloying the happiness of the news is that she isn't carrying his baby.
Mohamed distributes food to what appears to be total strangers in celebration of the news. [Mohamed and Latifa are really a cute couple and about the only sympathetic characters in the novela.]
Joy and celebration reign as Mohamed and Latifa return to Ali's house except for Nariza, appropriately dressed in black, who says that the baby had better be a boy.
Up in her room, Latifa tells Jade that the child will be a boy, named Mohamed. She tells Jade that she is very happy and asks Jade if she is happy with her rich husband who covers her with gold. Jade tell Latifa that she if she had another chance, she would live her life the same way, so wonderful was the happiness she had with Lucas. Latifa suggest that she will feel differently when she has children. Jade says that she won't have any children.
Lucas tells Rosa that he doesn't want any more children.
Said tells Jade that he wants a child and he is taking her to doctor. [Of course, he assumes that it is her fault.] Then Jade sees an opportunity. She tells Said that the best fertility doctor is in Miami in the US. She claims not to remember the doctor's name and suggests that they not tell Uncle Ali about this. Said asks why and Jade replies that Ali thinks the best doctors are in Morocco and it would be kinder not to disillusion him and maybe the treatment would be for both of them. Said says no, Muslim men are very fertile.
Zoraida gives Latifa a folk remedy for morning sickness - holding a key. Then she and Jade retire to the kitchen for a chat. She tells Zoraida about the Miami trip. Zoraida can't believe that Said would take Jade to the same city where Lucas lives. Jade replies that she hasn't mentioned Lucas in years; Said has forgotten about him. But for her time hasn't passed. She loves him as much as she did before. Zoraida says that time doesn't pass for Jade. That's what she read in the coffee grounds. Except that it wasn't. Here, from Paula's recap of the Feb 24 episode is what Zoraida read in the coffee grounds:
“A love that will last your entire life. Joy that turns to sadness that turns to joy.” Jade inserts, with excitement, “Then we’ll be together! He’s el amor de mi vida! I knew it the moment I saw him!” Zoraida continues, “You’ll meet the same man two times (i.e. Jade will meet him for the first time, twice. Time will pass for you but not for him. The past and the future will cross in front of you, and you will decide whether to take the path that leads backwards, or to continue forward. Love will last a lifetime, but it doesn’t say you will be together. Perhaps you will lose him and re-find him later.”
Bad prophecy? Sloppy writing?
Jade wonders if Lucas still thinks of her.
Well, of course he does. To illustrate this, Leo is playing some really kitchy Moroccan music. Lucas turns off the CD player. Always sympathetic to the feelings of others, Leo tells Lucas to grow up and if he doesn't like the music, he can go to his room. [Whatever happened to, 'this is now your house, treat me like a guest?']
Danelito #3 is not a great actor. He tells his mom that he doesn't want to be poor like her and insists that Albieri is his father. When Dora says that Albieri is only his godfather, the kid wants to know who his father is.
Luisa wants to take Danielito to visit the Ferrers and she can't understand why Albieri keeps making excuses about why this can't happen. Albieri is interrupted by Danielito calling to ask Albieri to pick him up. He says that he is Daniel's father.
We see that of course Danielito has the birthmark that Diego and Lucas had/have. Marisa sees the birthmark on Lucas and he tells her for our benefit that Natalia will not have it. It is inherited from the mother. Then Marisa tells her friend that Lucas is so not like Diego. Diego was passionate and all the girls adored him. She says that it was strange. She lost the man that she adored and then all of a sudden, there he was. She mentions that when she met Lucas he had a Moroccan girlfriend, nothing serious. When her friend asks if she knows where the old girlfriend is now, Marisa says that she hopes that she is lost in the desert sands and never shows up again.
Jade, of course, is hoping for the opposite. She tells Zoraida that Said will tell her whether she can go to Miami with him after the party for Latifa. Zoraida hopes the answer is no. She is afraid of what would happen if Said and Lucas came face to face. Jade says that she won't get close to Lucas. She made the promise to Allah to give him up if his life was spared. If she had the courage to do it then, she can do it now.
A spying servant (who seems to have learned Spanish while Jade hasn't learned any Arabic) has told Ali about Jade's plan to go to Miami. Ali is totally opposed and says that he will convince Said not to permit the trip.
Jade tells Zoraida that they will see who has more power over Said, Ali or her.
Jade knows how to persuade Said. She gets all gussied up for the party.
When Nariza makes snide comments about how much gold Said is throwing away on her, Said tells her not to pay attention. He says that Nariza has a 'carácter fuerte,' a strong personality, a euphemism for someone who is really obnoxious. But, he continues, she has a good heart. "She works hard to hide it," replies Jade. Said tells Jade how much he loves her and that he will give her anything. "Take me to Miami," says Jade.
Leo recalls to Enrique that it was in this bar that he saw Cristina the day that Natalia was born. Enrique says that he hasn't seen Cristina around. Leo replies that he believes that she went to Argentina with her husband. Enrique says it is too bad that Leo couldn't get past what happened with Cristina and Diego. Leo replies that it's worse than that. He says he will never forgive himself for not preventing the accident that killed Diego. He should have paid more attention to Diego but instead he was besotted with Cristina. [So Leo is going to torture himself with guilt about not paying enough attention to the son he no longer has while he pays no attention to the problems of the son he still has. Way to go, Leo.]
Of course, Cristina is now arriving back in Miami.
Dora tells Vicki that she has heard Osvaldo is back in town and she is dying to see him. There is at knock at the door. It's Cristina.
She fills us in on what happened with Armando. He was a swindler - all lies. He never had any money. One day he just vanished and now his creditors are after her. She lost the money Leo gave her in a bad investment so now she is dead broke. However, she says that Leo will pay for all that has happened because it was his fault- he didn't stop her wedding to Armando.
At the party for Latifa, Ali doles out wisdom from the Koran to Mohamed and Latifa while Jade bewitches Said with her dancing. He is like putty in her hands and agrees to take her to Miami.
When they arrive, Said takes Jade to a nice hotel. He says that he was only in Miami before when he was a boy and doesn't remember anything. Jade announces that since they are in America, she is taking off her veil. Said refuses to let her. She must not show herself to anyone but him. Jade won't give up. She points out that the Koran does not require that a woman cover herself and that many women in Morocco don't wear a veil. Said replies that all the women in his family cover themselves. Her beauty is reserved just for him. He doesn't want her to 'exhibit' herself to any other men. We see how seriously Jade takes her vow not to see Lucas. As soon as Said goes to take a shower, Jade looks up the telephone number of the Ferrer house and calls on her cell.
We don't see who, if anyone, answers the call. Lucas is playing tennis. He agrees to meet Marisa later at a restaurant.
Cristina shows up at Leo's office. Now here's how I would have written it: Cristina: 'Leo, I behaved like a complete idiot in marrying Armando to make you jealous. How about we start over as friends and have lunch.' But no. Cristina rants and raves. She accuses Leo of ruining her life and asks why he didn't stop her from marrying Armando and throws her unpaid bills on his desk.
Of course, of all the restaurants in Miami, Jade and Said are in the same one where Marisa is waiting for Lucas. [We seemed to have missed something here. The woman with Marisa at the pool and at the restaurant is named Adriana and since she arrives with Enrique, she must be his wife or girlfriend.] When Jade goes to the bathroom, Marisa hears Said say her name. She instantly knows that this is Lucas's Jade.
The credits roll.
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Jean, wonderful recap! Thanks as always for supplying so many of the details I seem to miss.
Ha! The little Aztec baby! You are right, the kid that replaces him as Daniel is a terrible actor. Maybe they will advance him on Monday to a sullen 14 year old.
But anyway--we have forward motion: yay!!!!
Cheers--Joan
Ha! The little Aztec baby! You are right, the kid that replaces him as Daniel is a terrible actor. Maybe they will advance him on Monday to a sullen 14 year old.
But anyway--we have forward motion: yay!!!!
Cheers--Joan
Permalink posted by 
: Saturday, April 10, 2010 at 10:08:00 AM EDT
: Saturday, April 10, 2010 at 10:08:00 AM EDT
Jean, great title, great recap. I even enjoyed the episodio (but not as much as your recap, por supuesto).
I agree with your remarks about Leo and his treatment of Lucas. Leo really is a piece of work, isn't he?
Yes, Danielito3 isn't much of an actor, but I love him! Why? Because he speaks so slowly I can understand every word!
Was I hallucinating, or did Armando not bother shaving for his wedding day? He looked really scruffy.
It's such a pity that Miami doesn't have more than one restaurant. Geez, even my poor excuse for a town has a bunch.
I agree with your remarks about Leo and his treatment of Lucas. Leo really is a piece of work, isn't he?
Yes, Danielito3 isn't much of an actor, but I love him! Why? Because he speaks so slowly I can understand every word!
Was I hallucinating, or did Armando not bother shaving for his wedding day? He looked really scruffy.
It's such a pity that Miami doesn't have more than one restaurant. Geez, even my poor excuse for a town has a bunch.
Jean, Terrific! I love this comment:
"Always sympathetic to the feelings of others, Leo tells Lucas to grow up and if he doesn't like the music, he can go to his room. [Whatever happened to, 'this is now your house, treat me like a guest?']"
It shows perfectly how Lucas's status as husband and father has changed nothing about his standing in his Nuclear (and I do mean Nuclear) family.
Three years later and everyone's still slogging around in their own mudbath of misery. In many novelas (although I can't recall hearing it in this one), someone portentously remarks: La gente no cambia. (People don't change.) That seems to be the overarching principle here, people just keep being themselves, they can't seem to help it, tragic consequences be damned.
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And yes, Joan and Jean, it's true -- Danielito's not so hot as an actor. On the other hand, little Natalia is adorable. I guess it's easier to find cute, nearly preverbal kids than kids who have to master dialog!
"Always sympathetic to the feelings of others, Leo tells Lucas to grow up and if he doesn't like the music, he can go to his room. [Whatever happened to, 'this is now your house, treat me like a guest?']"
It shows perfectly how Lucas's status as husband and father has changed nothing about his standing in his Nuclear (and I do mean Nuclear) family.
Three years later and everyone's still slogging around in their own mudbath of misery. In many novelas (although I can't recall hearing it in this one), someone portentously remarks: La gente no cambia. (People don't change.) That seems to be the overarching principle here, people just keep being themselves, they can't seem to help it, tragic consequences be damned.
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And yes, Joan and Jean, it's true -- Danielito's not so hot as an actor. On the other hand, little Natalia is adorable. I guess it's easier to find cute, nearly preverbal kids than kids who have to master dialog!
Permalink posted by : Saturday, April 10, 2010 at 10:59:00 AM EDT
: Saturday, April 10, 2010 at 10:59:00 AM EDT
Oops, forgot to sign in. Anon 10:59 is NovelaMaven.
Darn, I'll get the hang of this eventually!
Darn, I'll get the hang of this eventually!
Permalink posted by : Saturday, April 10, 2010 at 11:01:00 AM EDT
: Saturday, April 10, 2010 at 11:01:00 AM EDT
Thanks, Jean. I may be late to the party, but is the actress who plays Nazira the same one who played Maria Pia , the nun, in Zorro ?
Permalink posted by : Saturday, April 10, 2010 at 11:16:00 AM EDT
: Saturday, April 10, 2010 at 11:16:00 AM EDT
Yipper, Susanlynn. From a nun to a witch. What we don't see in either is her bod, which I guess is pretty hot. She did a semi-pornographic novela in Brazil, I think, before Zorro.
Thanks for the comments. Yes, there was movement in time but I'm guessing that Leo and Cristina, Dora and Osvaldo and the whole Albieri/Danielito thing will just take up where they left off. Sigh. I hope I'm wrong but I don't think much of anything is really going to happen until the clone grows up.
Thanks for the comments. Yes, there was movement in time but I'm guessing that Leo and Cristina, Dora and Osvaldo and the whole Albieri/Danielito thing will just take up where they left off. Sigh. I hope I'm wrong but I don't think much of anything is really going to happen until the clone grows up.
Juanita, I guess Armando was going for the day old Miami Vice stubble look. Not something I admire. Imagine having to kiss it!
Jean, yes, I know it is or was the fashion in some circles, but it doesn't do it for me. Comisario Rivas in ¿Dónde Está Elisa? also has that scruffy look, though it looks more appropriate on him than on a groom on his wedding day. I'd like to think that if el comisario ever remarries, he'll shave for the occasion. But who knows?
Praise Allah! they've advanced the time, but geez, you're right -not the plot. I'd love to find a man who'd be sucker enough to pay my bills after I'd married another and realized the mistake, put the blame on him anyway, and get away with it. Leo, get a restraining order already!!
and I can't believe the cousins aren't pregnant yet after 3years w/o birth control; one just now on the way. someone just looks at me wrong, and I get pregnant - ma ma mia (happened just once).
and I can't believe the cousins aren't pregnant yet after 3years w/o birth control; one just now on the way. someone just looks at me wrong, and I get pregnant - ma ma mia (happened just once).
Permalink posted by : Saturday, April 10, 2010 at 12:57:00 PM EDT
: Saturday, April 10, 2010 at 12:57:00 PM EDT
Don't know what Latifa's (or Mohamed's, to be fair) reproduction problem was. Latifa definitely wanted to get pregnant. But Jade told Zoraida a while ago that she was taking 'an herb' to keep from getting pregnant. Unless she has trouble conceiving or Said is shooting blanks, that's a pretty good herb she's got.
Jean: We finally move forward in time but [Jade] not so much, huh? Thanks for a superb job. Mohammed is a charmer for sure. Instead of cigars people get fruit spread and crackers, I guess, over there. Well, at least somebody in that family has something to be happy about, finally! Nariza and Marisa are a pair of witches. It would be interesting to see the two of them exchange insults and have a major catfight. I'd pay for a ringside seat for that one! Somehow I think Nariza would get the best of Marisa and I'd be cheering the whole way. Marisa was a witch with that necklace trick she pulled and she deserves a few sleepless nights now that Jade's back in town. --Also, I'm hoping that Lucas has the good sense to give Jade back her good-luck necklace if and when they ever meet again. Her life's been the pits since she lost it and she's due. If I were her I'd escape from Said's clutches and head straight to Las Vegas for a quickie divorce y punto! Right now she's a prisoner in her own land and that part of the story disturbs me greatly.
Excellent recap, Jean. So many great one liners.
They foreshadowed that Danielito would turn into a spoiled brat, and he is one. The really jaw dropping line for me was Frankenalbi telling the kid: "Of course I'm your father". What the ^&*)&) is he thinking? The kid is old enough to keep repeating this to Dora.
I like Cristina, but they really have written her as a nut case. It's completely ridiculous that she would blame Leo for her having married Armando. And he's supposed to pay her bills AGAIN?
I'm with you, Jardinera. Instead of barking up the same old tree and calling Lucas, Jade should pawn some of that gold and get on the next thing smoking for another location where she can file for divorce. But then, if telenovela characters listened to our fervent pleas that they act in their own self-interest, the novelas would last one month.
Can't we have a nice car crash, crippling and disfiguring Marisa so she can't pull any more nasty tricks like the ones the avances hinted at?
Juanita, I've been griping about the stubble on handsome guys for YEARS now. Some women must like it, because it never seems to go out of fashion. The reality is that that stubble sands the skin off your face during any serious hanky panky!
They foreshadowed that Danielito would turn into a spoiled brat, and he is one. The really jaw dropping line for me was Frankenalbi telling the kid: "Of course I'm your father". What the ^&*)&) is he thinking? The kid is old enough to keep repeating this to Dora.
I like Cristina, but they really have written her as a nut case. It's completely ridiculous that she would blame Leo for her having married Armando. And he's supposed to pay her bills AGAIN?
I'm with you, Jardinera. Instead of barking up the same old tree and calling Lucas, Jade should pawn some of that gold and get on the next thing smoking for another location where she can file for divorce. But then, if telenovela characters listened to our fervent pleas that they act in their own self-interest, the novelas would last one month.
Can't we have a nice car crash, crippling and disfiguring Marisa so she can't pull any more nasty tricks like the ones the avances hinted at?
Juanita, I've been griping about the stubble on handsome guys for YEARS now. Some women must like it, because it never seems to go out of fashion. The reality is that that stubble sands the skin off your face during any serious hanky panky!
Permalink posted by : Saturday, April 10, 2010 at 6:42:00 PM EDT
: Saturday, April 10, 2010 at 6:42:00 PM EDT
Muchisimas gracias como siempre!!!
Excelente resumen!!
Excelente resumen!!
Permalink posted by : Saturday, April 10, 2010 at 7:40:00 PM EDT
: Saturday, April 10, 2010 at 7:40:00 PM EDT
Thank you Jean. Several good zingers. I'm with you. When will they learn?
In the well-written TN's, the characters transform, often as a result of suffering. It's gripping to watch as the good get gooder and the bad get worserer. Sadly, well-written TN's are rarer than hen's teeth. It's like the difference between a piano and a bell. A piano has a range of several octaves, while a bell just keeps striking the same note, over and over again.
I'm with you (ustedes) also about the 3-day growth. Either shave or grow a real beard, for goodness sake! Is it an age thing? Are we too old to understand? To me it just looks slovenly. Do 20-somethings find it sexy? The strange thing is, some have it perpetually, which means that they must trim it down to a stubble instead of actually shaving periodically.
In the well-written TN's, the characters transform, often as a result of suffering. It's gripping to watch as the good get gooder and the bad get worserer. Sadly, well-written TN's are rarer than hen's teeth. It's like the difference between a piano and a bell. A piano has a range of several octaves, while a bell just keeps striking the same note, over and over again.
I'm with you (ustedes) also about the 3-day growth. Either shave or grow a real beard, for goodness sake! Is it an age thing? Are we too old to understand? To me it just looks slovenly. Do 20-somethings find it sexy? The strange thing is, some have it perpetually, which means that they must trim it down to a stubble instead of actually shaving periodically.
Stubble is NOT my thing either. The guys apparently use special shavers. I say why waste the money.
Hmmm. If Marisa had a wreck and the rest, poor weak-willed Lucas would feel even more obligated to stick it out with her. She needs to go permanently to the mas alla. I cannot believe she really loves Lucas, anyway. She loved Diego and his passion. She has his body in Lucas, and the fortune and family name which mean more to her. Wonder what would be a good and humbling end for her in this thing?
Hmmm. If Marisa had a wreck and the rest, poor weak-willed Lucas would feel even more obligated to stick it out with her. She needs to go permanently to the mas alla. I cannot believe she really loves Lucas, anyway. She loved Diego and his passion. She has his body in Lucas, and the fortune and family name which mean more to her. Wonder what would be a good and humbling end for her in this thing?
A good end for Marisa: her scheming blows up in her face. Something that she does causes national disgrace to the Ferrer family including her. She becomes a public laughing stock. It also causes Leo to lose his entire forture.
As a result:
A. Leo loses his power and can't push everyone around anymore. He actually has to learn to work for a living.
B. Rosa is laid off because they can't pay her. She finds work with a new family who doesn't let her be such a metiche in family matters.
C. When the gravy train comes to a screeching halt, Marisa throws a wild fit in front of lots of witnesses, screaming that she has always hated Lucas and never wants to see him again as long as she lives. She divorces him and signs over all custody rights regarding Natalia.
D. Lucas isn't the least bit bothered by the bankruptcy because he never cared about money. He writes a series of songs for Natalia, some producer hears them and makes a series of children's music videos, and sales go like wildfire. Lucas takes the money and Natalia, and buys a house on the beach in Veracruz. He spends his days playing guitar while Natalia runs barefoot on the beach.
And what about Jade? Who cares?
As a result:
A. Leo loses his power and can't push everyone around anymore. He actually has to learn to work for a living.
B. Rosa is laid off because they can't pay her. She finds work with a new family who doesn't let her be such a metiche in family matters.
C. When the gravy train comes to a screeching halt, Marisa throws a wild fit in front of lots of witnesses, screaming that she has always hated Lucas and never wants to see him again as long as she lives. She divorces him and signs over all custody rights regarding Natalia.
D. Lucas isn't the least bit bothered by the bankruptcy because he never cared about money. He writes a series of songs for Natalia, some producer hears them and makes a series of children's music videos, and sales go like wildfire. Lucas takes the money and Natalia, and buys a house on the beach in Veracruz. He spends his days playing guitar while Natalia runs barefoot on the beach.
And what about Jade? Who cares?
Well, how about Jade returns to America and somehow makes it to Las Vegas, becomes a show girl and marries a rich man with spine, spunk and manly good looks? (Not that Lucas is bean bag in the looks department, but....)
PaulaH: Like your scenario with Marisa. I'd like to see her become a lush from her jealousy afterwards and end up cleaning bathrooms somewhere. Mama Rosa might think that's justicia!
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Thanks Jean - always love your recaps and pictures.
I guess what bothers me about characters in the telenovelas (especially the women) is the the amor para siempre is all that really matters in life.
Lucas is weak compared to Diego and will let his dad boss him around. Jade has no real job skills or money but she is driven by this amor para siempre. When she arrives in Miami with Said, she does not attempt to escape. She makes for the telephone directory to call Lucas!
There are no real mothers in this telenovela. Jade's mother died. Latifa doesn't seem to have one. Said and Mohamed only have an elder sister who raised them. The tio's rule the roost.
Except for Zoraida, the rest of the women seem to be arguing about how much gold they have. Said thinks he can buy Jade with gold and she buys him with her exotic dance routines.
Oh well, I guess -- this is telenovela land.
Lynne
I guess what bothers me about characters in the telenovelas (especially the women) is the the amor para siempre is all that really matters in life.
Lucas is weak compared to Diego and will let his dad boss him around. Jade has no real job skills or money but she is driven by this amor para siempre. When she arrives in Miami with Said, she does not attempt to escape. She makes for the telephone directory to call Lucas!
There are no real mothers in this telenovela. Jade's mother died. Latifa doesn't seem to have one. Said and Mohamed only have an elder sister who raised them. The tio's rule the roost.
Except for Zoraida, the rest of the women seem to be arguing about how much gold they have. Said thinks he can buy Jade with gold and she buys him with her exotic dance routines.
Oh well, I guess -- this is telenovela land.
Lynne
Permalink posted by : Sunday, April 11, 2010 at 1:51:00 PM EDT
: Sunday, April 11, 2010 at 1:51:00 PM EDT
Yes, ladies, I agree. Three years later and the characters just keep being themselves.
The only changes are:
A. Danielito is now being played by an older actor (who although can not act but at least does resemble a young Maurico Ochmann)
B. Saul Lisazo is starting to show more grey.
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The only changes are:
A. Danielito is now being played by an older actor (who although can not act but at least does resemble a young Maurico Ochmann)
B. Saul Lisazo is starting to show more grey.
Permalink posted by : Sunday, April 11, 2010 at 2:51:00 PM EDT
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