Thursday, July 08, 2010
El Clon Thursday July 8: Summary for Discussion
Tonight we learn that Marisa is still as rotten as ever; that someone who sweats as profusely as Albieri really can’t be playing with a full deck; and damn if Cristina and Leo don’t still make a fine-looking couple.
In a beautifully written and played scene, Jade at last gets Latifa to acknowledge that Samira’s situation is like Jade’s; and like Jade, she is going to have to reconcile her western upbringing with her Moslem roots. Don’t judge me. If you support me now, you will be making your daughter’s path in life easier. The world is changing…
Samira invites her cousin Zumaya to come to the beach club with her so she can meet her friends, especially Carlos. She gets Abdul’s very grudging permission by fibbing that they are going to visit Samira’s school. After the girls leave, Abdul tells Mohamed his children should be attending a Moslem school, no matter how far away it is. Mohamed confides that he is planning to arrange the children’s marriages the next time they are in Morocco; the marriages themselves will take place when they turn 18. Eighteen is too late, insists Abdul:
Cuando le baje la sangre, tienes que casarla.
When she (Samira) has her first period, you have to get her married.
Cristina, Luisa and Dora are gathered at Dora’s place trying to figure out how to find Daniel and Albieri. Luisa and Cristina decide to go to Luisa’s house.
Apparently Albieri is not a Frequent Flyer in AeroNovela; he’s not having a lot of success getting those magical instant Miami to Morocco tickets in his travel agency.
At the Clinic, Anita asks Julio what is going on with Albieri. Somewhat reluctantly Julio tries to explain: he has this strange obsession with his godson. You mean he’s gay? asks Anita. No, it’s not that…
And Escobar calls Clara at work, trying to reach Fernando. Although he is standing right there, she tells him he isn’t around; try his cell (which they both know Fer won’t answer). Then Enrique comes out of Leo’s office and once again offers to talk to Fernando about his addiction. He picks up his briefcase, notices his flask is missing and gets frantic but can’t tell them why or what he’s looking for. (Remember Caro appropriated said flask on yesterday’s show).
Natalia and Andrea drive up to Gloria’s. They have great news: Marisa has gotten Alej his job back! He can start tomorrow. Alej is hesitant, thinking it might be another trick on Marisa’s part. Pablo and Gloria agree, but Nati believes her mother and thinks things can return to the way they were before. Let’s give it a little time, says Alej.
Indeed, at Casa Ferrer, Marisa tells Rosa that she hasn’t changed her opinion about Alej, she has just changed her tactics. Maybe you were right to question the relationship, says Rosa, but you had no right to do what you did! Just then Leo walks in and they have a tender moment of suegro/nuera bonding.
When Nati has left, Pablo acknowledges that he doesn’t trust Marisa. He tries to reach Cristina to see if she can shed any light on the job situation but has the misfortune to get the odious Malicia in her stead.
Escobar picks up Malicia at Salamandra and whines about how Fer is rejecting him.
Fer is at a club where I think his band is going to play. In the club’s bathroom, Fernando happens to meet a musician he respects. This guy tells Fer to lay off the marijuana: La música es el mejor remedio. (Music is the best cure)
Enrique is on his psychiatrist’s couch talking about his early drug experiences. It sounds as if Enrique is a blamer. (It also sounds as if the writers don’t have a very high opinion of psychotherapy.)
At la Casa Ferrer, Lucas gets a phone call from Said. They agree on a lunch meeting. Rosa says: No vayas, te puede pasar algo malo. (Don’t go. Something bad might happen to you.)
Albieri arrives home to face the furious Cristina and Luisa. Where have you been? they want to know. And where is Daniel? Let me shower and change, he says, and then we’ll talk. Just don’t try to slip out the back door. Or out the window. (They know him too well.) Estoy perdido (I’m lost) he mutters, once in the sanctuary of his room. He contemplates his Ethics Award; he opens a drawer and takes out a gun…
Lucas finds an unpleasant surprise in his bedroom at the Casa Ferrer – broccoli-band girl, who claims to be there for her daughter’s sake. And you, she asks idly, have you changed your wedding plans? No, no I haven't, he assures her.
Hay gente insoportable en esta casa!
There are insufferable/unbearable people in this house! says Lucas to Rosa on his way out the door.
Albi loads the gun and aims it at his head. He imagines himself surrounded by all the important people in his world. The angry faces of Leo, Andres, Ali, Julio, Dora, Estela, Luisa... They have learned about the clone and they show no mercy in their judgment: ¿Qué hiciste Albieri? What did you do, Albieri?
Cristina and Luisa are downstairs trying to figure out what to do when a shot rings out! ¿Qué hiciste Albieri? they cry out as they rush upstairs. They find Albieri apparently unconscious but intact. There is a bullet hole in his prize. They are able to rouse him and he says ‘The shot was for me.’ Comí el fruto prohibido. I ate the forbidden fruit. Luisa stays with him while Cristina goes for help. She calls – who else? – Leo, telling him Albieri just tried to kill himself. Voy por allá, he says. I’m on my way!
Curiously, Padre Andres is reading to Daniel from Genesis, and explaining how Adam and Eve were expelled from paradise because they ate of the forbidden fruit.
Dora gets a phone call from Cris, telling her what has happened: Albieri enloqueció! Albieri has gone crazy! Leo arrives at Albieri’s house, Cris fills him in quickly and he runs up to see his old friend. Albieri begs for forgiveness, babbles that he made Diego, he could have given him to Leo but he didn’t, out of fear. Cristina comes in with some pills for Albieri. They must be pretty potent, because in a moment he is out cold.
Zumaya and Samira leave together. Abdul grumbles, and Mohamed tries to placate him. Hilda and Karla choose that moment to stop in front of the store and pose for Animal Crackers. They really make Abdul’s argument more eloquently than words ever could and the men flee inside the store. (I myself am ready to order a burqa after that spectacle)
Samira and the sweetly shy Zumaya - robed and veiled -- are at the beach club, and Samira introduces her to Carlos and his friend.
Alej decides he is not going to accept the job offer. He meets up with Nati (apparently at the same beach club where Samira is entertaining Zumaya) and tries to make her understand his decision, but she is offended and stalks off angrily.
Albieri is now sleeping fitfully. Luisa is at his side. She sees the gun lying out and – SHE PUTS THE DAMN THING BACK IN THE DRAWER!!!
Leo is talking to Enrique, trying to make sense of Albieri’s behavior. (With Enrique? gimme a break!) When Enrique hears that Albieri kept apologizing for not returning Diego to Leo, his ears perk right up.
In Mohamed’s house, Jade tells Zoraida that she is going to tell them absolutely everything in the Family Council – everything she has done, exactly how she has betrayed Said. When the story is out in the open, it will be shameful for Said NOT to divorce her. Jade is not concerned about this causing problems for Jadiya’s future marital prospects. Things will have changed by then, she tells Zoraida. Just look at how much has already changed in the last 10 years under the new king.
Latifa is upset because Amina has come back into her life to threaten her marriage. Why didn’t Zoraida warn her she was coming, she wants to know. And the Naz is upset because Mohamed won’t allow Said to bring Sein to the house. (So the Naz is among Sein’s many admirers!) It’s not to keep him from courting you, Nazira, explains Latifa. It’s because he is not faithful to his religion. Well all the more reason to bring him here, says the Naz. We can teach him by example. The Naz, finally, doesn’t need her brothers to bring Sein to her: She knows where to find him!
At Salamandra, Sein is looking for Cristina and finds, alas, Malicia. Her overly anxious to please manner doesn’t seem to impress him.
Everyone is talking about Albieri’s breakdown. Pablo and Vicki are discussing it, and he wonders how Cristina happens to know him. Vicki explains that Albi is a great friend of Leo Ferrer and Cris and Leo were an item years ago.
Malicia cruises by in ‘her’ car and smirks at Fernando, who as glancing at his watch as if he is waiting for the bus. When he gets to work, Fernando tells his mother that Malicia is actually laughing in his face. Clara is so angry, she calls Escobar’s cell. Anita, at the clinic, happens to answer it. Clara thinks it’s Malicia, rants her rant to poor Anita, and hangs up. Who called, asks Escobar. Oh, wrong number.
In Said’s house, Jadiya snuggles up to her father and asks him, ever so nicely, to return Rania. It just so happens, says her father, that your mother is coming back. I’m bringing her home today. Jadiya is delighted. Amina, skulking in the background and listening in on the conversation, is less so.
In a beautifully written and played scene, Jade at last gets Latifa to acknowledge that Samira’s situation is like Jade’s; and like Jade, she is going to have to reconcile her western upbringing with her Moslem roots. Don’t judge me. If you support me now, you will be making your daughter’s path in life easier. The world is changing…
Samira invites her cousin Zumaya to come to the beach club with her so she can meet her friends, especially Carlos. She gets Abdul’s very grudging permission by fibbing that they are going to visit Samira’s school. After the girls leave, Abdul tells Mohamed his children should be attending a Moslem school, no matter how far away it is. Mohamed confides that he is planning to arrange the children’s marriages the next time they are in Morocco; the marriages themselves will take place when they turn 18. Eighteen is too late, insists Abdul:
Cuando le baje la sangre, tienes que casarla.
When she (Samira) has her first period, you have to get her married.
Cristina, Luisa and Dora are gathered at Dora’s place trying to figure out how to find Daniel and Albieri. Luisa and Cristina decide to go to Luisa’s house.
Apparently Albieri is not a Frequent Flyer in AeroNovela; he’s not having a lot of success getting those magical instant Miami to Morocco tickets in his travel agency.
At the Clinic, Anita asks Julio what is going on with Albieri. Somewhat reluctantly Julio tries to explain: he has this strange obsession with his godson. You mean he’s gay? asks Anita. No, it’s not that…
And Escobar calls Clara at work, trying to reach Fernando. Although he is standing right there, she tells him he isn’t around; try his cell (which they both know Fer won’t answer). Then Enrique comes out of Leo’s office and once again offers to talk to Fernando about his addiction. He picks up his briefcase, notices his flask is missing and gets frantic but can’t tell them why or what he’s looking for. (Remember Caro appropriated said flask on yesterday’s show).
Natalia and Andrea drive up to Gloria’s. They have great news: Marisa has gotten Alej his job back! He can start tomorrow. Alej is hesitant, thinking it might be another trick on Marisa’s part. Pablo and Gloria agree, but Nati believes her mother and thinks things can return to the way they were before. Let’s give it a little time, says Alej.
Indeed, at Casa Ferrer, Marisa tells Rosa that she hasn’t changed her opinion about Alej, she has just changed her tactics. Maybe you were right to question the relationship, says Rosa, but you had no right to do what you did! Just then Leo walks in and they have a tender moment of suegro/nuera bonding.
When Nati has left, Pablo acknowledges that he doesn’t trust Marisa. He tries to reach Cristina to see if she can shed any light on the job situation but has the misfortune to get the odious Malicia in her stead.
Escobar picks up Malicia at Salamandra and whines about how Fer is rejecting him.
Fer is at a club where I think his band is going to play. In the club’s bathroom, Fernando happens to meet a musician he respects. This guy tells Fer to lay off the marijuana: La música es el mejor remedio. (Music is the best cure)
Enrique is on his psychiatrist’s couch talking about his early drug experiences. It sounds as if Enrique is a blamer. (It also sounds as if the writers don’t have a very high opinion of psychotherapy.)
At la Casa Ferrer, Lucas gets a phone call from Said. They agree on a lunch meeting. Rosa says: No vayas, te puede pasar algo malo. (Don’t go. Something bad might happen to you.)
Albieri arrives home to face the furious Cristina and Luisa. Where have you been? they want to know. And where is Daniel? Let me shower and change, he says, and then we’ll talk. Just don’t try to slip out the back door. Or out the window. (They know him too well.) Estoy perdido (I’m lost) he mutters, once in the sanctuary of his room. He contemplates his Ethics Award; he opens a drawer and takes out a gun…
Lucas finds an unpleasant surprise in his bedroom at the Casa Ferrer – broccoli-band girl, who claims to be there for her daughter’s sake. And you, she asks idly, have you changed your wedding plans? No, no I haven't, he assures her.
Hay gente insoportable en esta casa!
There are insufferable/unbearable people in this house! says Lucas to Rosa on his way out the door.
Albi loads the gun and aims it at his head. He imagines himself surrounded by all the important people in his world. The angry faces of Leo, Andres, Ali, Julio, Dora, Estela, Luisa... They have learned about the clone and they show no mercy in their judgment: ¿Qué hiciste Albieri? What did you do, Albieri?
Cristina and Luisa are downstairs trying to figure out what to do when a shot rings out! ¿Qué hiciste Albieri? they cry out as they rush upstairs. They find Albieri apparently unconscious but intact. There is a bullet hole in his prize. They are able to rouse him and he says ‘The shot was for me.’ Comí el fruto prohibido. I ate the forbidden fruit. Luisa stays with him while Cristina goes for help. She calls – who else? – Leo, telling him Albieri just tried to kill himself. Voy por allá, he says. I’m on my way!
Curiously, Padre Andres is reading to Daniel from Genesis, and explaining how Adam and Eve were expelled from paradise because they ate of the forbidden fruit.
Dora gets a phone call from Cris, telling her what has happened: Albieri enloqueció! Albieri has gone crazy! Leo arrives at Albieri’s house, Cris fills him in quickly and he runs up to see his old friend. Albieri begs for forgiveness, babbles that he made Diego, he could have given him to Leo but he didn’t, out of fear. Cristina comes in with some pills for Albieri. They must be pretty potent, because in a moment he is out cold.
Zumaya and Samira leave together. Abdul grumbles, and Mohamed tries to placate him. Hilda and Karla choose that moment to stop in front of the store and pose for Animal Crackers. They really make Abdul’s argument more eloquently than words ever could and the men flee inside the store. (I myself am ready to order a burqa after that spectacle)
Samira and the sweetly shy Zumaya - robed and veiled -- are at the beach club, and Samira introduces her to Carlos and his friend.
Alej decides he is not going to accept the job offer. He meets up with Nati (apparently at the same beach club where Samira is entertaining Zumaya) and tries to make her understand his decision, but she is offended and stalks off angrily.
Albieri is now sleeping fitfully. Luisa is at his side. She sees the gun lying out and – SHE PUTS THE DAMN THING BACK IN THE DRAWER!!!
Leo is talking to Enrique, trying to make sense of Albieri’s behavior. (With Enrique? gimme a break!) When Enrique hears that Albieri kept apologizing for not returning Diego to Leo, his ears perk right up.
In Mohamed’s house, Jade tells Zoraida that she is going to tell them absolutely everything in the Family Council – everything she has done, exactly how she has betrayed Said. When the story is out in the open, it will be shameful for Said NOT to divorce her. Jade is not concerned about this causing problems for Jadiya’s future marital prospects. Things will have changed by then, she tells Zoraida. Just look at how much has already changed in the last 10 years under the new king.
Latifa is upset because Amina has come back into her life to threaten her marriage. Why didn’t Zoraida warn her she was coming, she wants to know. And the Naz is upset because Mohamed won’t allow Said to bring Sein to the house. (So the Naz is among Sein’s many admirers!) It’s not to keep him from courting you, Nazira, explains Latifa. It’s because he is not faithful to his religion. Well all the more reason to bring him here, says the Naz. We can teach him by example. The Naz, finally, doesn’t need her brothers to bring Sein to her: She knows where to find him!
At Salamandra, Sein is looking for Cristina and finds, alas, Malicia. Her overly anxious to please manner doesn’t seem to impress him.
Everyone is talking about Albieri’s breakdown. Pablo and Vicki are discussing it, and he wonders how Cristina happens to know him. Vicki explains that Albi is a great friend of Leo Ferrer and Cris and Leo were an item years ago.
Malicia cruises by in ‘her’ car and smirks at Fernando, who as glancing at his watch as if he is waiting for the bus. When he gets to work, Fernando tells his mother that Malicia is actually laughing in his face. Clara is so angry, she calls Escobar’s cell. Anita, at the clinic, happens to answer it. Clara thinks it’s Malicia, rants her rant to poor Anita, and hangs up. Who called, asks Escobar. Oh, wrong number.
In Said’s house, Jadiya snuggles up to her father and asks him, ever so nicely, to return Rania. It just so happens, says her father, that your mother is coming back. I’m bringing her home today. Jadiya is delighted. Amina, skulking in the background and listening in on the conversation, is less so.
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NovelaMaven: Yah--Albieri has gone crazy, and Luisa puts his gun Back In the Drawer!!! But it's okay, because she covers it up with some Pieces of Paper!!! I'm ready for the Clon character to have some impact on the plot; meanwhile, some of the secondary characters (Samira, Rania, Naz, etc) are more interesting to me. And of course it was a great recap-summary, thank you very much!
Joan
Joan
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: Friday, July 9, 2010 at 12:59:00 AM EDT
: Friday, July 9, 2010 at 12:59:00 AM EDT
Excellent summary!
Let's see if alberti is successful with his escape with daniel to morocco.
Let's see if alberti is successful with his escape with daniel to morocco.
Permalink posted by : Friday, July 9, 2010 at 2:34:00 AM EDT
: Friday, July 9, 2010 at 2:34:00 AM EDT
Thanks NovelaMaven! I was expecting a big tease in this episode, as usual, but it wasn't so bad. Albieri didn't kill himself as the preview suggested, but at least he went nuts. I'm happy to see him do something different! And I like that he shot the award, and Luisa wakes him up and says, "You shot the award."
And oh boy, Luisa is still stupid. If Albieri ever wants that gun, he won't find it now! It's in the drawer just below where he left it! Under some old novels! Albieri can't even read!
The anti-drug message seems a bit forced in this show. Or perhaps I should say, whenever a character gives an anti-drug message, it seems forced. It must be hard to write those scenes without making them sound more like a sermon than a conversation.
By the way, what did you mean about "posing for animal crackers"? They pose like the animals depicted? What animals are they? A snake and a cougar?
And oh boy, Luisa is still stupid. If Albieri ever wants that gun, he won't find it now! It's in the drawer just below where he left it! Under some old novels! Albieri can't even read!
The anti-drug message seems a bit forced in this show. Or perhaps I should say, whenever a character gives an anti-drug message, it seems forced. It must be hard to write those scenes without making them sound more like a sermon than a conversation.
By the way, what did you mean about "posing for animal crackers"? They pose like the animals depicted? What animals are they? A snake and a cougar?
Glad I’m not the only one who detests Marisa and Said. I hope karma is unforgiving and severe to them.
Jade’s “tell it all” logic sounds interesting, in theory……
Wow—was Albi “for real” tonight? Don’t know what to say about him, just yet. Ahora, me muero por enterar lo que pasa con el divorcio! Que larga la espera, unfortunately. omg, as Hilda would say…
Jade’s “tell it all” logic sounds interesting, in theory……
Wow—was Albi “for real” tonight? Don’t know what to say about him, just yet. Ahora, me muero por enterar lo que pasa con el divorcio! Que larga la espera, unfortunately. omg, as Hilda would say…
I love this show, even when I hate it, so I'm really glad to see the pace picking up again. Ever since Cristina's new do, I think...
Luke --
"Posing for Animal Crackers" means, loosely, standing around looking dumb. It may be regional. I first heard it many years ago growing up in NYC. As insults go, it's pretty mild and good-natured. The "posing" part suggests idleness and a certain air of self-satisfaction; only someone having his picture painted would be standing so still and would look so pleased with himself. And the "Animal Crackers" part suggests that the only modeling you'd be good for would be as one of the creatures on the little boxes of cookies. "Whadya, posing for animal crackers?"
If anyone has a different take on this expression, please chime in. I've used it on rare occasions but never really stopped to define it before.
And if the ladies had to be circus animals, since, as far as I know, Barnum and Bailey didn't show rodents, they'd have to be monkeys howling in their cages, picking nits out of each other's hair, showing their big scary teeth. Yeah yeah, I know, this insults primates!
Erin --
OMG you sound just like her!! Aguas, chica!!! jejeje
Joan and Luke --
Yes, it was a stroke of brilliance on Luisa's part, covering the gun with a few books and papers.
Luke --
"Posing for Animal Crackers" means, loosely, standing around looking dumb. It may be regional. I first heard it many years ago growing up in NYC. As insults go, it's pretty mild and good-natured. The "posing" part suggests idleness and a certain air of self-satisfaction; only someone having his picture painted would be standing so still and would look so pleased with himself. And the "Animal Crackers" part suggests that the only modeling you'd be good for would be as one of the creatures on the little boxes of cookies. "Whadya, posing for animal crackers?"
If anyone has a different take on this expression, please chime in. I've used it on rare occasions but never really stopped to define it before.
And if the ladies had to be circus animals, since, as far as I know, Barnum and Bailey didn't show rodents, they'd have to be monkeys howling in their cages, picking nits out of each other's hair, showing their big scary teeth. Yeah yeah, I know, this insults primates!
Erin --
OMG you sound just like her!! Aguas, chica!!! jejeje
Joan and Luke --
Yes, it was a stroke of brilliance on Luisa's part, covering the gun with a few books and papers.
Excellent summarcap, Novela Maven and better you than me on this episode, amiga.
...glad to see the pace picking up again?????
When Albi didn't kill himself, I realized how much I had been hoping that he would do it, that SOMETHING would happen on this show.
You know you're in trouble when the highlight of the show is two Muslim girls go to a beach club and an alcoholic can't find his flask. Deep breaths, rant over.
Maybe by leaving the gun in the drawer, Luisa is subconsciously hoping that Albieri will kill himself. It looks like he only had one bullet, though.
The anti drug messages are so heavy handed, especially about marijuana use leading to doom. Shades of 'Reefer madness.' It would be so easy to show how truly dangerous drugs like cocaine, ecstasy and heroin can destroy lives without all the preaching.
Loved: Apparently Albieri is not a Frequent Flyer in AeroNovela...
Albi is so twitchy that he probably fits a terrorist profile.
Mohamed's business isn't going to do too well if he can't greet scantily clad Floridians outside his shop.
Luke: Concerning your comment yesterday. If you click on 'clon recaps' in the sidebar, all the recaps/summaries are there.
...glad to see the pace picking up again?????
When Albi didn't kill himself, I realized how much I had been hoping that he would do it, that SOMETHING would happen on this show.
You know you're in trouble when the highlight of the show is two Muslim girls go to a beach club and an alcoholic can't find his flask. Deep breaths, rant over.
Maybe by leaving the gun in the drawer, Luisa is subconsciously hoping that Albieri will kill himself. It looks like he only had one bullet, though.
The anti drug messages are so heavy handed, especially about marijuana use leading to doom. Shades of 'Reefer madness.' It would be so easy to show how truly dangerous drugs like cocaine, ecstasy and heroin can destroy lives without all the preaching.
Loved: Apparently Albieri is not a Frequent Flyer in AeroNovela...
Albi is so twitchy that he probably fits a terrorist profile.
Mohamed's business isn't going to do too well if he can't greet scantily clad Floridians outside his shop.
Luke: Concerning your comment yesterday. If you click on 'clon recaps' in the sidebar, all the recaps/summaries are there.
Thank you once again NovelaMaven.
You gotta love Cristina, her only flaw is loving Leo.
So the Naz is now after Sien. It should be fun to see her take down Malicia.
So, Adul likes them young, pretty, and stupid (i.e. no education) It figures, yuck! This seems to be the only criteria for one of his arranged marriages.
I Albieri was aiming for his head and hit the award, he needs new glasses.
Jean, I laughed yesterday when my word verification was "gator".
Rosemary
You gotta love Cristina, her only flaw is loving Leo.
So the Naz is now after Sien. It should be fun to see her take down Malicia.
So, Adul likes them young, pretty, and stupid (i.e. no education) It figures, yuck! This seems to be the only criteria for one of his arranged marriages.
I Albieri was aiming for his head and hit the award, he needs new glasses.
Jean, I laughed yesterday when my word verification was "gator".
Rosemary
Permalink posted by : Friday, July 9, 2010 at 11:59:00 AM EDT
: Friday, July 9, 2010 at 11:59:00 AM EDT
NovelaMaven: thanks for the explanation. I had never heard that before. I like it.
Jean: thanks for the tip.
I also sort of wanted to see Albieri kill himself. It's frustrating sometimes how much this show teases the viewers with possible big events, and doesn't pay it off. Even though there is often real (slow) progress, and sometimes real big events, the writing and direction puts more emphasis on the disappointing fake-outs. So it feels like nothing ever happens, even though when I think back, some important things have happened recently.
And Jean, you're exactly right about the "refer madness" tone of the drug plot. Enrique has thrown away his life one and a half times due to alcohol and cocaine (and who knows what else), which are also favorites of Fernando, but still we focus on pot? I can understand if they're trying to show it's a "gateway" to cocaine, but to alcohol? This has been mismanaged, and probably on the advice of network lawyers or censors.
Jean: thanks for the tip.
I also sort of wanted to see Albieri kill himself. It's frustrating sometimes how much this show teases the viewers with possible big events, and doesn't pay it off. Even though there is often real (slow) progress, and sometimes real big events, the writing and direction puts more emphasis on the disappointing fake-outs. So it feels like nothing ever happens, even though when I think back, some important things have happened recently.
And Jean, you're exactly right about the "refer madness" tone of the drug plot. Enrique has thrown away his life one and a half times due to alcohol and cocaine (and who knows what else), which are also favorites of Fernando, but still we focus on pot? I can understand if they're trying to show it's a "gateway" to cocaine, but to alcohol? This has been mismanaged, and probably on the advice of network lawyers or censors.
Excellent work, NovelaMaven. Dare I say it was really a recap?
I sure hope they deliver on the lunch with Said and Lucas tonight. I am very intrigued by his telling Jadiya her mother would be home today. If he plans to threaten Lucas with withdrawing his business from Empresa Ferrer, this wouldn't move the ball for Lucas.
Malicia also tried to throw Cristina to the wolves by telling Sein that she hadn't shown up for work. He didn't buy anything she said, which irked her no end.
ITA about the tease of getting rid of sweaty Albi with a gunshot. But somehow I think he's going to get Daniel to Morocco, so he had to survive.
Abdul is going to marry Samira off when she gets her period over Latifa's dead body. She would NOT go for that. I think if Mohammed went along with Abdul Samira would make the Guiness Book of World Records for latest first menstruation at age 25.
I sure hope they deliver on the lunch with Said and Lucas tonight. I am very intrigued by his telling Jadiya her mother would be home today. If he plans to threaten Lucas with withdrawing his business from Empresa Ferrer, this wouldn't move the ball for Lucas.
Malicia also tried to throw Cristina to the wolves by telling Sein that she hadn't shown up for work. He didn't buy anything she said, which irked her no end.
ITA about the tease of getting rid of sweaty Albi with a gunshot. But somehow I think he's going to get Daniel to Morocco, so he had to survive.
Abdul is going to marry Samira off when she gets her period over Latifa's dead body. She would NOT go for that. I think if Mohammed went along with Abdul Samira would make the Guiness Book of World Records for latest first menstruation at age 25.
Permalink posted by : Friday, July 9, 2010 at 2:50:00 PM EDT
: Friday, July 9, 2010 at 2:50:00 PM EDT
By an interesting coincidence, a friend today emailed me a link to this article on Islamic punishments for adultery:
http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2010-07-08/stoning-a-woman-in-iran-for-adultery/?cid=hp:mainpromo7
http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-and-stories/2010-07-08/stoning-a-woman-in-iran-for-adultery/?cid=hp:mainpromo7
Permalink posted by : Friday, July 9, 2010 at 2:58:00 PM EDT
: Friday, July 9, 2010 at 2:58:00 PM EDT
Won't get around to watching the tape until tomorrow, but the recap and comments are WONDERFUL.
The heavy handed drug message amuses me. When marijuana began to be used by "regular" boys and girls in the 60s rather than just by musicians and their followers, some of the "dehype" perhaps you'd call it was much heavier handed. But with what we know--or think we know--today; the approach in this novela is purely stupid.
Haven't tried it myself in 40 or more years, but know people who never stopped but yet went on the lead full, productives lives. The sad think is, the attitude portrayed keeps the weed illegal and thus tempts gangs to kill or be killed in order to get a corridor into the nation of more than ample usage, USA.
Probably should sign this, but . . . Lois
The heavy handed drug message amuses me. When marijuana began to be used by "regular" boys and girls in the 60s rather than just by musicians and their followers, some of the "dehype" perhaps you'd call it was much heavier handed. But with what we know--or think we know--today; the approach in this novela is purely stupid.
Haven't tried it myself in 40 or more years, but know people who never stopped but yet went on the lead full, productives lives. The sad think is, the attitude portrayed keeps the weed illegal and thus tempts gangs to kill or be killed in order to get a corridor into the nation of more than ample usage, USA.
Probably should sign this, but . . . Lois
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: Friday, July 9, 2010 at 3:53:00 PM EDT
Just an offhanded aside:
*Is it odd that during all the years, Dora never sent/showed Cristina photos of Danny growing up?
*Shame on Dora, Estela, and Albi; Daniel really didn't know the forbidden fruit story from Genesis? (one of the first biblical stories Christians generally tell their children)
*Is it odd that during all the years, Dora never sent/showed Cristina photos of Danny growing up?
*Shame on Dora, Estela, and Albi; Daniel really didn't know the forbidden fruit story from Genesis? (one of the first biblical stories Christians generally tell their children)
Erin- I was going to mention that too but I forgot. We're supposed to believe that Daniel has never heard the story of the Garden of Eden? Just to make a parallel with Albieri's ravings - how stupid.
Novelera, thanks for the link.
Unfortunately, I cannot post during the day so have to wait till the evening.
I'm sure that the behaviour in the villages is far more conservative than in the cities. This is what my Indian colleagues tell me. They are Hindu.
I know an Iranian couple socially. He is the dean of a business school at a local university and she is a lecturer there. They are a highly sophisticated, educated couple. The husband says he is Muslim but largely secular. When I was in Morocco, one of our guides told me that only about 50% of the population were practicing Muslims. I think the figure was likely too low .. but still.
I've only visited a few countries as a tourist - includes Morocco, Egypt, Jordan and Turkey. I would possibly find it difficult to live in some of the Islamic countries. But they are very, very different. In Aman in Jordan, the women were sitting in restaurants just like here - except that they were better dressed! Time for Al Corazon Abierto.
Lynne
Lynne
Unfortunately, I cannot post during the day so have to wait till the evening.
I'm sure that the behaviour in the villages is far more conservative than in the cities. This is what my Indian colleagues tell me. They are Hindu.
I know an Iranian couple socially. He is the dean of a business school at a local university and she is a lecturer there. They are a highly sophisticated, educated couple. The husband says he is Muslim but largely secular. When I was in Morocco, one of our guides told me that only about 50% of the population were practicing Muslims. I think the figure was likely too low .. but still.
I've only visited a few countries as a tourist - includes Morocco, Egypt, Jordan and Turkey. I would possibly find it difficult to live in some of the Islamic countries. But they are very, very different. In Aman in Jordan, the women were sitting in restaurants just like here - except that they were better dressed! Time for Al Corazon Abierto.
Lynne
Lynne
Permalink posted by : Friday, July 9, 2010 at 6:52:00 PM EDT
: Friday, July 9, 2010 at 6:52:00 PM EDT
Novelera, thanks for the link.
Unfortunately, I cannot post during the day so have to wait till the evening.
I'm sure that the behaviour in the villages is far more conservative than in the cities. This is what my Indian colleagues tell me. They are Hindu.
I know an Iranian couple socially. He is the dean of a business school at a local university and she is a lecturer there. They are a highly sophisticated, educated couple. The husband says he is Muslim but largely secular. When I was in Morocco, one of our guides told me that only about 50% of the population were practicing Muslims. I think the figure was likely too low .. but still.
I've only visited a few countries as a tourist - includes Morocco, Egypt, Jordan and Turkey. I would possibly find it difficult to live in some of the Islamic countries. But they are very, very different. In Aman in Jordan, the women were sitting in restaurants just like here - except that they were better dressed! Time for Al Corazon Abierto.
Lynne
Lynne
Unfortunately, I cannot post during the day so have to wait till the evening.
I'm sure that the behaviour in the villages is far more conservative than in the cities. This is what my Indian colleagues tell me. They are Hindu.
I know an Iranian couple socially. He is the dean of a business school at a local university and she is a lecturer there. They are a highly sophisticated, educated couple. The husband says he is Muslim but largely secular. When I was in Morocco, one of our guides told me that only about 50% of the population were practicing Muslims. I think the figure was likely too low .. but still.
I've only visited a few countries as a tourist - includes Morocco, Egypt, Jordan and Turkey. I would possibly find it difficult to live in some of the Islamic countries. But they are very, very different. In Aman in Jordan, the women were sitting in restaurants just like here - except that they were better dressed! Time for Al Corazon Abierto.
Lynne
Lynne
Permalink posted by : Friday, July 9, 2010 at 6:53:00 PM EDT
: Friday, July 9, 2010 at 6:53:00 PM EDT
Lynne, so you're watching A Corazon Abierto also! I'm really enjoying it. I think the acting is excellent! And I like the fact that the whole hour isn't spent on the love lives of the protagonists. Many of the issues surrounding the patients are interesting as well.
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