Wednesday, August 25, 2010
El Clon, Wed., August 25 - Summary for Discussion
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You seem to have forgotten that Dora sent little Daniel to live with his grandmother in New York. That's why no one saw him. When he grew older he became a wanderer and that's why he went to Mexico and then from there came back to Miami.
I am on vacation and computer time is hard to come by, so hopefully I will have more time later in the day.
Rosemary
I was surprised that Nati didn't do herself serious harm when she drank that array of stuff. I was assuming that she'd be so sick that Alej would have to rush her to the hospital, and that that would be the transition to the inevitable stay at the rehab center. Apparently not, or at least not yet. I guess we still need a few more insufferable PSAs from Enrique first, just in case we watched with blinders and earplugs and so didn't understand what was happening.
Interesting that Leo and Marisa discuss Daniel's life expectancy and the fact that Daniel is now the age Diego was when he died. I didn't hear ominous music in the background during that conversation, but....
I was struck by Rosa's response when she is told that Daniel is a clone:
With the first part of her comment, she shows us that at least in broad terms, she understands the science: "¿...hizo con mi muchacho lo que hace con el ganado del Señor Leonardo?" (He did with my boy what he does to Señor Leonardo's cattle?)
And the second part of her reaction registers how appalled she is as a religious person: "¿Desde cuándo Dios lo hizo su socio?" (Since when did God make him his partner?)
And of course the third part of her reaction comes later when we realize that the idea of cloning is so horrible to her that she rejects it in favor of her original hypothesis: reincarnation
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Jean, I loved your remark that Daniel's disclosure about his parentage was "way too much for the tiny sKank brain." I admit I find
the relationship between Karla and Daniel intriguing. She's not only turned on by him, she seems to like him. In that, she is a member of a very small club. Maybe before the end of the story, she'll learn of his connection to Osvaldo and help get him out of jail for Daniel's sake. (I'm also not convinced that Roberto is her baby's father; Daniel makes much more sense.)
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Are we meant to see the mild insults exchanged by our tweens Jadiya and Yamil as a courtship ritual? It would be good for Jadiya to hang out with a boy with a less rigid world view than her own. Maybe it will soften her stance toward her mother.
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Juanita, I was also quite surprised that Alejandro didn't take Nati to the hospital. Even if he knew what she consumed in the house, he couldn't have known what was already in her system. And dramatically -- well, we're all ready for that bomb to explode, aren't we?
I don't know why Alej insists on keeping Nati's condition a secret. After all, he isn't married to her and I believe her family has a right to know of her condition. He isn't giving her he help she needs. For all he knew she could have killed herself drinking the fluids in the apartment.
Ann-NYC
Juanita, I was also amazed that Alej was so calm seeing the empty cleaning fluid bottles. That really made no sense; surely she would have been poisoned by some of that stuff. And she was passed out. ¿Qué? Wouldn't a sensible person take her to the hospital?
Anonymous 10:53 and 12:19, we appreciate your comments and welcome everyone. But I must say that the tone of your comments seemed fairly critical of Jean. These recappers/summarizers are heroes to me, offering me a place to discuss the loony goings on in Novelaland. It's a real community, and we try very hard to be respectful of each other.
I'm fairly bored with Jade and Ali. I've always liked Ali but his remarks about Jade's destiny and Albieri's bad move in taking over Allah's job are very repetitive.
I'm looking forward to Marisa's reaction to seeing the clone tonight.
Jean, kind of off topic, but trying to test my sanity. Wasn't Sylvia portrayed by another actress in the beginning of this novela? I remember her being the same actress as the looney chicken restaurant owner in Victorinos. Am I nuts?
Elizabeth
While I also expected Alejandro to take Natalia to the hospital, it was my impression that she had ingested things like perfume and mouthwash for their alcohol content rather than more lethal-type cleaning fluids. Even so...
I didn't see Victorinos, so I could be totally off base here, but I wonder if you are thinking of Miss Brown, the other female scientist we saw at the beginning of the story? Dra Silvia looks the same to me except for a new do.
By the way, I'm not sure what is going on with my postings. I have noticed before that sometimes (not always) they disappear from the delicious bookmark page. Then I have to refresh to make them show up. Sometimes that doesn't work; then I have to leave the page and return and there they are. I have no idea why this happens. If anyone else does, please let me know.
I too don't understand why, with all the evidence that Alej has that Nati is out of control, he doesn't send her back to her family. In terms of the plot, I'm guessing that he has to actually lose his dream of being a luchador because of Nati before we can move on the to the next stage.
I also agree that the Karla/Daniel relationship is strange. I'm sure that her baby is not Roberto's so I guess it could be Daniel's. They did get together twice.
I guess it makes sense that Nati did only drink mouthwash and perfume for the alcohol content but if someone had passed out from drinking anything, I would take them to the hospital. There is such a thing as alcohol poisoning. I'm surprised that Nati didn't have to throw up when she woke up.
I find this 'Daniel is a shadow' business rather irritating when espoused by educated people like Ali and Father Andres. Didn't the sheik tell Ali that Daniel had a soul? All this 'who is his mother? who is his father? stuff is ridiculous in the 21st century. The circumstances of Daniel's birth aren't different from a child borne by a surrogate mother except in this case, the surrogate parents, Leo and Isabel, didn't know about the pregnancy.
Wow--I thought sKarla's "first trimester" affirmation was a definitive answer to many of our "baby daddy" questions. Guess we'll have to stay tuned to see what's what. (did she begin bedding Daniel around the same time her mother put their DNA plan into action?)
Novelera, I too think you may be thinking of Dr. Brown (the doc Albieri sent Sylvia to as an assistant). And, again, Sylvia does have different hair (?)... I believe her surname is supposed to be Valencia.
Anyone think/know if Ozzie will rerturn to the story? I've noticed that the name Pedro Telemaco is still included in the opening credits; and I kinda miss that little rascal.
I hope Osvi will be back too. I assume that he will since Miguel mentioned visiting him.
Karla and Daniel had sex when they first met and then again much later. I can't remember when the first encounter was. Wouldn't it be delicious if the sKank's rich guy turned out to be Leo and not Roberto? Since I'm assuming Daniel isn't going to see the end of the novela, his child would be precious to Leo.
I too am soooo bored with Nati storyline; as well as the whole TN. still been hitting that >>ff>> button.
where in the heck is Zein?? also, they oughta find a man for the Naz already.. pronto pronto.
love reading ya'lls comments everyday.
Thank you!
I also believe that karla is probably pregnant with daniel's baby. If this proves to be true,
she therefore has successfully snagged 18 years of child support from a millionaire. So her plan worked, just not with roberto.
phyllis
I didn't know drinking perfume would have you just passed out, not saying i am going to try it. I would have called 911 right away.
Even though Jade was whining she seems to be accepting the consequences for her actions.
It is kind of hard to like most of the characters in this novela, i think the ones i feel the most sorry for is Dora,Estella and Daniel.
A) Why did Alej not rush Nati to get medical help?
B) Silvia does look way different, I thought it was the hair, but the whole Crazy Chicken Lady discussion makes me wish I had watched the Victorinos.
C) When Karla (con "K") answers Daniel's question if her baby could be his, she says No, I'm 3 months along, like that would eliminate him from being the Daddy. But, I agree, the plot almost demands that he be the Daddy!
Joan
Also did you notice how Tio Susio Abdul's eyebrows were jumping like Groucho's while TSA was looking down Gloria's blouse at the restaurant and during the fantasy belly dance? Talk about Haraam!!
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