Saturday, December 04, 2010
La Verdad Oculta 58: Whose Child Am I?/David Learns (Almost) the Whole Truth
David confronts “Mario” in his bedroom. “Are you or aren’t you my papa?” FaustiMario is stunned into silence. He ponders his options for a few seconds and then decides now is the time to come clean with David. Like some sort of horror movie, he begins to remove his mask to reveal what lies beneath. However, instead of a horrible monster underneath the glasses, wig, false teeth, beard, mustache and latex nose and wrinkles, David finds not his father, but Gabi’s!
Horrified, David backs as far away as possible into the wall, his mind racing and unable to compute what he’s seeing. “My God! What is this? Why are you dressed like this? Where is my papa?!” Faustiago begs him to calm down and let him explain. Meanwhile, Gabi is wearing a hole into the carpet pacing in the living room, knowing that something very strange is going on with David and Don Mario.
Faustiago continues to remove his disguise, but locks the door firmly before giving David the explanation he demands. He first informs David that his father, Mario Genovés, is dead. David is wide-eyed, and teary-eyed, impactado. “Muerto?” Faustiago explains that Mario did indeed die in the car accident. David refuses to believe, so Faustiago suggests he bring Abelardo in to verify all he is saying. David wanders into the living room like a zombie and requests that Abelardo accompany him. He unconvincingly tells Gabi that nothing is wrong and everything is fine when she inquires.
Abelardo confirms to David that Don Mario is indeed dead. David’s grief knocks the wind out of him and forces him to sit down. He starts to weep. “And, he, he was my father?” Abelardo answers him truthfully.
A: He loved you as if he were.
D: Then, whose child am I?
Abelardo tells him mostly the truth. He says David is the child of a lady who used to work in the house. She left when David was just a few weeks old. As Don Mario and Señora Alicia could not have children, they fell for little David, cared for him as their own and registered him as their child. David is practically hyperventilating with grief and shock. Abelardo tells David how much his father loved him. When David asks where he is buried, he tells him he’s been laid to rest in a dignified tomb. Whenever David wants to, Abelardo will take him there. David then asks for an explanation of why Faustiago is there. Abelardo hands the mic over to Faustiago for that explanation.
Faustiago explains that he’s there because Mario obligated/forced him to be. He tells David his real name and that he used to be an actor. The theatrical company he started with was owned by Adolfo Ávila. There he met and fell for a beautiful dancer named Márta Saldívar. However, she got involved with a rich man who was married…who had a son. A look of shocked realization comes over David’s face.
In the living room, Gabi continues to fret to Juli about what could possibly be going on in the bedroom. She saw that look on David’s face and knows it can’t be good. Juli thinks they are just discussing business, but Gabi has another theory. She thinks they might be arguing because Gabi asked David to get them their own house, away from his family. Juli sees no problem with this. If that is what’s causing the problem, then Mario will just have to deal with it (aguantar). Gabi has a right to have her own home! They both go nervously quiet when a downcast Ale arrives home. They do a bad job of lying that everything is ok. Ale goes to Bertha’s room to see if she can get the 411 from her about what’s going on. Princess Bertha doesn’t know, and she doesn’t like not being in the know. Their uncle is acting like a man possessed (con miles demonios), and those b!tches (she said viejas, but that’s what she really meant) continue to ingratiate themselves with him. Ale knows something must be wrong by the looks on the faces of Gabi and Juli.
Back in the bedroom, the revelations keep coming at David like a tsunami.
D: This woman had a child by my father?
F/S: Yes. It was a girl.
D: And where is she now?
F/S: That child is my daughter, your wife, Gabriela.
D: Qué?! Gabriela?!
David is shocked into standing position this time. He asks if Mario knew Gabi was his child. Faustiago explains that Mario found out shortly after his wife died. When she died Mario came back to find Marta to marry her, but by that time Marta was married to Santiago and had another child by him, Juli. David wants an answer to THE question. Why is Faustiago passing himself off as Mario? Faustiago explains it’s because of that darn death clause in the contract with Adolfo. Faustiago goes back to speaking about the Marta love triangle. He explains that when Mario came back into Marta’s life, Santiago’s heart was destroyed, he was eaten up with jealousy. He didn’t think it fair that Mario was trying to take her from him again. He could feel that she was about to abandon him. He started fighting with Marta all the time and made life impossible for her.
Around the corner, at the newly renovated house, JJ is deep in thought about Ale. Limon, in one of his favorite spots- behind the bar- tells JJ he thinks it best if he and Caramelo move out, so that JJ won’t continue to have problems with Ale. JJ won’t hear of it. Limon and Caramelo are his only family. (What about Elsa?) They can’t leave him alone. Plus, Limon and JJ are partners and will be working together (on whatever it is they eventually decide to do). Limon doesn’t know how he can help JJ in his new business since he doesn’t know how to do anything, not even how to write. JJ doesn’t think reading and writing is part of the job description for a right hand man (brazo derecho). (Yeah. This will be a really successful business.) Plus, JJ completely trusts Limon and would trust him with his life. Limon is touched by JJ’s words.
Caramelo comes running in. She has examined the bedrooms upstairs and still wants to sleep in the little house (servants’ quarters) attached to the main house, where she and Limon used to sleep all those years. JJ gives in and Caramelo runs off cheering her victory. Limon also asks JJ if he can stay in the rooms in back, in the casita. That way he won’t feel like such a freeloader (arrimado) and Ale can feel more comfortable in the house. JJ reluctantly agrees, and gives Limon the job of being in charge of the whole house. He also wants them to go furniture shopping so that Limon can furnish the rooms in the little house exactly as he’d like.
They toast happily to their new business and home arrangements, as we cut to a very unhappy looking Ale sulking on her bed. She’s obviously given what Mina said some thought, and is feeling bad about her harsh words with JJ. She swallows her pride and picks up the phone and calls him. Her sweet, “Hi. It’s me.”, is greeted with a grumpy “Qué pasó? Dime.” She tells him she’s calling to ask how he is. JJ’s in brat mode and tells her he’s fine. In fact, he’s with Limon and Caramelo and they’re about to go buy furniture for their BEDROOMS. Ale tries to be a good sport about it and says that’s great. JJ agrees, abruptly tells her he’s got to go, and hangs up on her while she’s in the midst of saying goodbye. (Wow. He is nearly giving her the full Elsa Cold Shoulder Treatment.)
Back at the Manse, Faustiago has told his story, and David wants to know if he did indeed kill his wife Marta. Faustiago jumps up in horror. He assures David that he did not kill her. David wants to know who did then. When Faustiago says that Mario was also there that night and saw her, David gets defensive wondering if he thinks his papa murdered her. “No, no.” Faustiago explains that this is just what Mario told him, and gets Abelardo to back him up. Faustiago got the blame for the murder, mainly because everyone heard the big fight he and Marta had earlier that evening. And then Adolfo saw him over her body and accused him of the crime. Luckily, Yolanda came and warned him and he had time to flee with his baby girls. It was all these years later when he returned to the capital that Mario saw him and recognized him. Faustiago explains how sick Mario was, and David learns for the first time that his father had a brain tumor. “Me obligó a tomar su lugar.” (He obligated me to take his place.) David is shocked to hear his mild mannered father threatened Faustiago with jail and with telling Gabi the truth, if he didn’t go along with this plan.
David wants to know why his father partnered with Adolfo in the first place. Faustiago explains how Mario was the first to find Marta dead. Adolfo and Yolanda found him over her body and accused him of killing her, despite his protests that he had only just arrived. Then Adolfo offered to “help” him by not saying anything to the cops and sending Mario away quickly. He later threatened to tell the cops and it was in this way Adolfo blackmailed Mario into the infamous contract. Faustiago didn’t know until recently that Mario was even there that night. He then explains about the cufflink that Mario found in Marta’s hand. They believed it was the killer’s and it was their only clue to the identity of the killer. Mario gave it to Faustiago, but it was recently stolen when someone broke into his apartment. David has Faustiago describe the cufflink and immediately realizes that it sounds like Carlos Avila’s ring. That bit of new info leaves Faustiago impactado.
Over at the Dastardly Domicile, Leo is awaiting the appearance of Adolfo. You’ve got to hand it to Adolfo, he can hide his shock and play the welcoming host to perfection. “Well, well. What a pleasure it is to see you in my home. What brings you here Comandante?” (Translation: What the hell are you doing here?) Leo tells him he’s there to ask him some questions. They sit down and Leo casually asks some pretty uncomfortable questions over his cup of java. He starts things off easily by first confirming that Adolfo used to be a theatrical company business owner. The next question nearly throws Adolfo off his game, when Leo asks whether he employed a dancer named Márta Saldívar. “Sí.” Leo then mentions her husband’s name, Santiago Guzman, who was suspected of killing her. Adolfo admits to remembering the man and wonders if they’ve caught him. They haven’t, but Leo wonders if Adolfo has seen Santiago or heard someone speak about him recently. “No. Of course not.” Leo points out that Mario Genoves also knew this dancer. Adolfo feigns ignorance and wonders why Leo is asking. “Did someone tell you that Mario knew Marta?” Leo continues his cat and mouse game, tells Adolfo that Adolfo himself threatened Mario recently with revealing the secret about Marta to David, and takes a sip of his coffee. “Me? I said that? I don’t recall.” Leo’s not buying this, and Adolfo is fishing for an excuse or explanation, when Carlos walks in. Leo stands and the two young men stare each other down. Likely remembering the hurt Leo put on him the last time they met, Carlos quickly slinks away upstairs.
Leo continues his interrogation of Adolfo. He asks how a man like him, who had no prior experience managing restaurants, ended up as Mario Genoves’ partner. “By blackmailing Mario about Márta Saldívar, right?” This finally sets Adolfo off. He hasn’t ever spoken to Mario about Marta, and whoever said he did is a liar. Leo gives one of his disarming smiles and says he will speak to Mario about the matter again. And if he’s involved in Marta’s death somehow, he’ll help him overcome any legal issues. This doesn’t make Adolfo happy, but he hides his displeasure and politely bids Leo farewell. As soon as Leo leaves, Adolfo calls Mario’s house demanding to speak with him.
“Mario” is still in his bedroom with David and Abelardo continuing his story of how he came to be there. David’s rocking back and forth and his brain is now starting to work overtime. He concludes that Adolfo must have been the one who arranged the accident that killed his papa. FaustiMario feigns surprise. Gabi knocks on the door to inform them of Adolfo’s call. David insists on taking the call. He tells Adolfo that his father is not at home, and from now on anything that has to do with his father, Adolfo will have to deal with HIM (David). Adolfo berates him, and tells David to pass the message on to his father that the police came to see him about you know who, and that he defended Mario and told them that Mario didn’t know the person. Mario better get in touch with him ASAP. Adolfo doesn’t realize that Carlos has been listening to Adolfo’s side of this conversation intently from the stairs. David doesn’t give a damn. “My father is NEVER going to speak to you again!” Click.
An uber-annoyed Adolfo turns around to find Carlos over his shoulder, grinning like the Cheshire Cat. He’s enjoying the “interesting” conversation Adolfo was having. It sounded to him like his father and Mario are involved in something crooked (chueco). Adolfo demands he show some respect, and get the hell out! Carlos smirks all the way out the door.
Gabi’s moved from the living room, to wearing a hole in the floor boards in front of Mario’s bedroom door. Juli tries to calm her down, but Gabi is fed up with waiting and wants to know what’s been going on behind that door. She knocks impatiently and finally David emerges. He lies that everything is alright, while at the same time wiping away a stray tear. They were discussing the partnership with the Avilas. Gabi wants to know what Leo has to do with it. David puts on a happy face, and once again tells her it’s nothing to worry about. Leo came to talk to his father because the police are investigating Adolfo Avila. He’ll explain more later. Gabi looks more perplexed than before.
Inside the room, FaustiMario is heading back through the tunnel to the little house. Abelardo urges him to be careful, given that they now know Adolfo is a murderer and wants to add “Mario” to his list of victims (which he’s already accomplished). Above all, Abelardo doesn’t want Faustiago to confirm to David that they learned from Yolanda that Adolfo killed Marta and his dad. David would for sure go to confront Adolfo directly and cause more problems than they already have. Faustiago admits that he was on the verge of revealing that to David, but is in agreement not to do so. It’s best not to provoke (prevenir) Adolfo.
Outside the door, David tries to distract Gabi with kisses and with an evening out on the town with her and Juli. He tells them to go make themselves pretty and he’ll be ready in a bit. He returns to the room quickly before Gabi can get out the lingering questions still on her mind. Gabi doubts what he said was the whole truth, but Juli wonders why it wouldn’t be. Gabi’s not convinced.
When he returns to the room, Abelardo shows him the secret passage. The light goes off in David’s head. So many things make sense now. Abelardo is happy that Faustiago will be more at ease now that David knows. They make their way through the tunnel to the house, and David marvels at his father’s planning and decision-making skills. He’ll miss him so much. Abelardo agrees. Once inside Faustiago’s dressing room, David marvels some more, begs Faustiago’s pardon for being such a jerk, and thanks him. Faustiago won’t accept the thanks, since he didn’t do this voluntarily but because Mario obligated him. But, he’s happy that it happened, because soon the day will come when Marta’s killer will pay for his crimes. David is sure that it was Adolfo, and he will pay for that, and all the humiliations he caused his father. He hesitates when he says “father”, and Faustiago gently assures him there is no need for hesitation. Mario was his father. Mario was a true father to him, just like he (Faustiago) has been to Gabi. David thinks of Gabi. She’s the true heir to all of this and David wants to tell her the truth. It’s the right thing to do. Faustiago agrees she should be told, but this is such a horrendous tale, that Faustiago himself isn’t yet ready to talk to her about it. David agrees to follow Faustiago’s lead. In fact, from now on he will do everything that Faustiago tells him to do. The two men shake on it. But it’s obvious David can’t shake his sadness at knowing his father is no more.
The sisters are pretty in pink, but Gabi is still pacing the living room like a mad woman. Juli wants to know why she won’t believe everything is ok, like David says. Gabi thinks she should phone Leo to find out why he spoke to Mario and what’s up. Juli tells her she’s crazy for looking for trouble with David again, who is already bothered by her friendship with Leo. Let things be, now that things are good. Gabi admits she’s right, but she just feels that David doesn’t want to tell her the truth. Adolfo, like a desperate recently dumped boyfriend, calls the house again to speak to Mario. Gabi knocks on the door twice, but strangely gets no reply. Adolfo resigns himself to the news that Mario is not there. He will just have to try again later. Just as she’s wondering where David and Mario could have gone off too, David and Abelardo magically emerge from the bedroom. David says they just didn’t hear her knock, although Gabi points out that she knocked twice. (Right now David is probably wishing that he had a less inquisitive, airhead wife.) He hustles them out the door to dinner. Bertha emerges as they are leaving and learns there will be no one around for her to annoy at the dinner table. She decides to call up her sugar daddy, Adolfo, but it seems he also has a life like everyone else, and has left.
Upstairs, Susana checks that her two retirement packages/death warrants (the diamond filled shoe and the letter) are still safe. She reads Dora’s letter out loud:
Señor Mario,
I don’t dare tell you this in person, because I’m ashamed, but you have the right to know. I am David’s mother. I abandoned him in this house many years ago. I left him here because Maria, a woman who worked in your house at that time, told me that your wife could not have children. My husband had abandoned me, and I could not maintain/take care of David. I knew that you were good people, and that you would give him all that I couldn’t.
I also want to tell you that I know who killed Isabel, the young woman who worked in the Mirador Hotel eleven years ago. The blame was put on the young man, Juan Jose Victoria. But the real culprits were Carlos Avila, and another young man whose face I could not see. I hope you understand me Don Mario. If I remained quiet all these years it was because I didn’t want David to suffer, and out of fear that Señor Avila would do something to me.
-Dora
Susana is shocked that Dora is David’s mother. The diamond filled shoes remain in her suitcase, but she puts the letter in her purse. Meanwhile, David’s mama is descending the stairs and encounters Ale. Ale goes to speak with Abelardo in Mario’s study and finds him scouring all of Mario’s books. He’s looking for a VERY important letter that was put in one of the books. Abelardo tells Ale that the letter reveals the true identity of David’s mother, but he pretends he doesn’t know who it is. Mario left the letter to be given to David one day. When Abelardo noticed that the books had been moved around, he decided to look for it and now can’t find it. They call Dora to find out who last cleaned the room. They find out it was Susana, on Bertha’s orders. No, Susana did not tell Dora that she had found anything in one of the books, and she’s out since it’s her day off. Ale thinks they need to search for this letter. Dora’s eyes go wide at the mention of a letter. She asks Abelardo if it’s the one she gave Mario. He confirms this and Dora’s eyes go wider with horror and fear. No one can see that letter! Ale suggests that Dora search Susana’s room, while she searches Bertha’s. When Ale heads upstairs, Dora panics that she might find and read the letter. Abelardo assures Dora that although Ale already knows that David is not Mario’s blood child, he did not reveal that Dora is his mother. But if she did find out, Ale already knows the FaustiMario plan and was the one who constructed the tunnel. “What tunnel?” Seems Dora was left out of the loop on that one, so Abelardo explains.
Dora’s search of Susana’s room and Ale's search of Bertha’s room comes up empty. Ale sees Dora’s obvious anguish and tries to calm her by saying it was probably just thrown away. She asks Dora who wrote the letter, but doesn’t press when Dora says she can’t say. Ale reports back to Abelardo and tries to assure him as well that it probably is in one of the books, or was thrown away. Abelardo hopes so, since it could be used for ill if it fell into the wrong hands. (If only he knew.) Ale heads over to talk to Faustiago in the tunnel house. She compliments him on his amazing transformation into Mario. He chuckles in appreciation of the compliment. This is a man who has clearly missed working in his calling- the stage. She talks about how that first night when he showed up, they were all convinced he was Mario. She congratulates him once more and calls him a great actor. He gives her a little bow. She knows they haven’t had much of an opportunity to talk, but she lets him know that her uncle told her everything. Faustiago admits it’s been difficult with lots of frights (sobresaltos).
Ale asks him if he thinks her uncle’s death was an accident. He is completely honest with her. It was not an accident, he was murdered. So was his wife, and so was the young maid eleven years ago. And all of these deaths have something in common- Adolfo Avila. Ale wants to know how he’s so sure. Because there were witnesses. In fact, a witness that can prove JJ is completely innocent. Ale wants that person to come forward! It’s their obligation! Faustiago assures her that that person will do so. They are both shocked when the door bell rings. And Ale is even more shocked to find JJ on the other side of the door.
JJ’s come looking for Don Fausto, who he knows works there. Ale tells him it’s not a business, but instead a house that belongs to Don Mario who employs Fausto. She leads him away from the house and to his house to talk. Abelardo arrives to tell Faustiago about the missing letter. Faustiago is absolutely sure it was Bertha who took it.
At JJ’s house, Limon quickly makes himself and Caramelo scarce to give the squabbling love birds some alone time. Ale gets JJ to sit down and talk things through. She feels badly about what happened. She doesn’t want to offend his friends. She understands that he loves them and wants to help them. She loves him, more than he can imagine, and she doesn’t want to lose him. Ditto for him. But he thinks they are too different- like water and oil, and he’s really crude oil. She’s elegant, fine and educated. And even though he now has money and dresses nicely, he’s still coarse and ignorant. She assures him that she likes him just the way he is- simple, generous, caring, loving…They start to kiss and Ale is ready to be swept away by passion once more. JJ puts a halt to things, since Limon and la niña might return any minute. Ale suggests the perfect solution—they can go upstairs to his bedroom. JJ x-nays that idea too. Things are different here. Even though Limon was a homeless tramp, he’s pretty conservative. And la niña is still very young/little (chiquitita). Ale cannot believe he is rejecting her, again. She stands up and tells him the only thing that is chiquitita here is his brain! (At least she didn’t name another part of your anatomy JJ.) Then things really get nasty. He implies that the only thing wrong is her loose morals. He asks just how many guys has she “been with”. (That didn’t seem to be a problem for him when they were getting it on in the elevator, in the hallway, in the hotel suite, or on her desk, but whatever.) “How dare you!!!” She tries to slap him, but he catches her arm and asks, “That many?” (Tantos?) That really ticks her off and she catches him off guard with a well deserved hard slap with her left hand. She storms off calling him an imbecile, and wondering why that’s important to him. “You know what? The only one that I regret is getting involved with a guy like YOU. It makes me embarrassed/ashamed!” (me da verguenza) The squabbling love birds have turned into full fledged fighting cocks, staring each other down from opposite sides of the ring.
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I'm wondering if JJ and Ale will ever make a go of it. In many ways, he's really an old fashioned guy.
Ann-NYC
I love how you described David's reaction to all the mind boggling news....he's sitting, he's standing, wide-eyed, teary-eyed, impactado, shocked into standing. When David asked "Mario", Are you or aren't you my father?" little did he know he was going to get the whole truth from "Mario." Faustiago, like you said, finally told David the truth about everything. In the end David was so relieved to finally understand why things had changed even though he learned his beloved father was dead.
Did Abelardo discover the letter was missing the day before or has it just been a very long day? Perhaps he hadn't had time to look through all the books before or tell anyone about it. It seemed like a delayed response. But then, he's had a lot on his hands dealing with two hot heads.
Thanks for the helpful vocab. I need constant reminders of the meaning of aguantar (to deal with) since it never sticks in my head.
J J's love life is not running smoothly at all.
GinCA
Thank you so much, Vivi!!!
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We are having a snow storm today here in Chicagoland.
Jeri- Snow! Brrr.. It's cold here, but very sunny and bright.
Ann- Yes, JJ and Ale have a long way to go towards understanding each other and accepting each other as they are. I could not believed that after all the hot love making, he insults her by basically calling her a slut with no morals.
I really felt for David this episode, but I could also see the relief you mentioned GinCA, that he finally knows the truth. I don't know how they possibly think they can keep this all from Gabi since she is already firing questions at David. And David is not a vey good liar. He wears his heart on his sleeve and Gabi has already caught on that something is very wrong.
The conversations you translated were loaded with critical details. At first I thought David was going to lose it,
but by the end of the evening, he had made an amazing transformation.
All I could think of was Michael Corleone of the Godfather as David prepared to avenge his father's death. He regained his composure,
was tough with Adolfo and gentle
with Gabi, and began to take command.
In order to protect Gabriela ("the real Genovés..." he noted), he gathered himself up and took charge, hardly revealing any strain.
It showed a maturity I was happy to see in him, after all the impetuous behavior.
Not sure if that was even legal. He may have problems if it wasn't a legal adoption.
GinCA: Aside from the fact that LVO is a fantastic show (so far), and it's great fun to watch and recap the episodes, you commenters motivate me to write good summaries every week. :) I like to read the comments just as much as Jeri's and Vivi's recaps. We are lucky to have so many readers.
Okay, it's been well established that Adolfo killed Marta. But in the actual strangulation scene, we see the suit, tie, and cufflinks that Adolfo was wearing earlier but we don't see his face as he chokes her with the gown. Could this mean something?
Thank goodness for Abelardo. I was so agitated during Fausto/Santiago's reveal of almost everything to David that "I" needed him to enter the scene to calm "me" down.
It's snowing here, too. Today I visited my sister and her family, they live at the other end of the town which is lovely in summer but in winter it becomes an ice rink. It was a nightmare.
But yesterday was worse. My opinion about winter from my Facebook wall: "It's awesome that every time I enter a room shivering, covered by slush and dirt, after being splashed by cars five times, after three triple Rittbergers performed on the slippery pavement, with slightly sprained ankles, tearful eyes, wet neck and frozen fingers, on top of it all I have to hear the gushing of an enthusiastic hippy (who spends the day in a warm room) about how beautiful and romantic snowfall is."
On the other hand, I really, really don't want to think about if she slept with Roberto or not. :)
Poor David, I was afraid it was all going to be too much for him, but maybe the relief at knowing what was going on helped. I, too, liked seeing his more mature behavior, hope that keeps up. I don't think he's going to be able to keep it from Gabi very well, either. Being married to the real Genoves doesn't he have some extra backing to inherit from Mario? Amazing how that got switched around, with Bertha accusing Gabi of marrying David for money.
I could understand Ale's upset in a way, even before JJ said what he did. She had come more than half way, accepting Limon and Caramelo were going to live there, so I can see she was frustrated when JJ rejected her. She still needs to be warmer to them, though, really accept them.
Yikes, that letter with Susana is likely going to end up in Roberto's hands since she took it with her. Smeagol is such a great description of him. ITA, ick,ick, ick if Ale slept with him!
Ivy
JJ had to go there with Alex and imply that she's a tramp earning a slap just like Elsa slapped him. It seems he and Alex will need some time apart.
I loved Leo toying with Adolfo.
It's just a matter of time before he fits all the pieces of the puzzle together.
I'm thinking Sususa will show that letter to Carlos thinking he's JJ. She's not too bright. Not a spoiler. Just speculating.
David better be careful. Gabi won't let up until she finds out the truth.
I too, have the horrible feeling that Dora's letter will end up in Roberto's nasty hands.
"I could not believed that after all the hot love making, he insults her by basically calling her a slut with no morals.. I have to say here I am not a fan of Ale's. I think she slapped JJ not because he insulted her, but because the truth came from someone she considers beneath her. Women with money don't consider themselves sluts, no matter how many bed partners they've had. Just look at Paris Hilton.
That said, I'm going to throw something out here that's been on my mind lately. Why does Ale dislike Caramelo so much? And why have the writers put so much emphasis on Caramelo not having a mom and dad? Could Caramelo be the child of one of the Balmori sisters? Bertha and Ale are about the right age and it's not unheard of for women (even women who know better) to discard babies they don't want.
All the best to those of you already facing snowy/icy weather.
I really don't think the the Balmori sisters, even Bertha, would abandoned their baby on a trash heap. I really don't think the story is going there. And frankly, although not a virgin, I don't think Ale slept around either. She didn't get to be an architect with her own firm from playing around. This is a woman that worked hard for where she is. I also don't think they have shown her with Caramelo or Limon at all. They've had no interaction. JJ has not brought her around to socialize with them. Caramelo doesn't even know who she is. Although I do think she needs a better understanding of what Limon and Caramelo signify for JJ, I understand her being taken aback to learn that she would have to live with strangers who are not relatives if she wants to live with her boyfriend. It's like living with roomamtes, and I know I am way too old and way over having housemates (who I'm not sleeping with or related to). She was actually very friendly to Limon and Caramelo in the scene where she came to the house. JJ did not inroduce her, and Limon dragged Caramelo out, so once again she did not get to interact with them. Just like how she has started to form a friendship with Fausto, I think she and Limon would do the same if they had any real time together.
Another great episode. At least David now knows that his father is dead. Now he can be of help instead of always running around frustrated and angry.
JJ and Ale don't seem to be able to communicate with each other. They know they are compatable in the sex department, but outside of sex they are finding that they come from different worlds. It is obvious that Ale is not used to being around small children. She isn't like Elsa in that respect who instantly took to Caramelo from the first.
JJ deserved that slap from Ale the way he insinuated that she slept around just because she wanted to go upstairs to his bedroom. Why is he acting so moral in his home. Yet, as others have mentioned, Ale's office table was okay, inside and outside an elevator was okay, etc etc, but not in his home, because they are not married. It seems that JJ is a very old fashioned 'boy'.
Margaret
I think at the moment it is only about sex with JJ and Ale. She hasn't expressed an interest in getting to know Caramelo or Limon, and as you said, JJ didn't even introduce them when they came in. So even JJ isn't interested in having Ale get to know his 'family'. Maybe JJ should throw a house warming party when he moves in so everyone can get to know each other better. That would be a first step.
Margaret
JJ was acting in a parental role
when he told Ale that the time and
place were not rght for lovemaking
in case Caramelo returned unexpectedly. How many parents have been in a similar situation when they might have been in the mood, but sex was not possible because of the kids. JJ is conservative along those lines and he was absolutely right. Ale appears to be miss Goody Two Shoes,
all nice and proper, but when she wants sex, she can think of nothing else. Although she does have many good qualities,she obviously cannot put herself in the place of a parent thinking about the well being of a child in this scenario.
Floridia, I too compared David and Michael Corleone. He's now taking charge of the Family business.
They for sure need to work on moving their relationship from just sex and passion to something more profoud and understanding.
comment on that scene - great insight and experience, I suspect.
Thanks again Vivi,Jeri and Aribeth for your outstanding work.
Hanna
LOL
Floridia:
All I could think of was Michael Corleone of the Godfather as David prepared to avenge his father's death.
Wow, that's a great comparison! Yes, the young prince is ready to take care of his stepfather's kingdom.
Episode 56, 57 and 58 were so wonderful. Maybe I should call them La Verdad Trilogia. Or whatever. I've never seen so intense episodes in a telenovela that took place in the middle of the show.
The comments about Alejandra, JJ and about being parents are very interesting.
Xlnt:
I think she slapped JJ not because he insulted her, but because the truth came from someone she considers beneath her.
Imho she was really hurt by the good old male chauvinist point of view that apparently her own Oliver Mellors aka Juan José shares.
We don't know much about Ale's past, but in my eyes she's rather a rigid and way too serious woman who's more interested in her profession and being the brain of the family (i.e. being better and wiser than her beloved but hopeless little sister) than being a party girl. She graduated in one of the most difficult studies (my dad is also an architect) and made sacrifices to build her own business, so I doubt she would've had enough time for sleeping around. Yeah, she jumped into JJ's bed at a word but I have a feeling that even our shy, decent Elsa would've become a passionate tigress if JJ had been in love with her. :)
I for one like the fact that at least one of the female protagonists isn't a young girl who discovers love for the first time (because Televisa telenovelas always forget we live in 21th century), and it's also interesting that the script is dealing with this situation. :)
Btw, I suspect JJ's tantrum was more about his endless confusion about his life, his insecurity about their relationship and her attitude towards his friends than her morals and sex life.
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From what we know her father could
not adequately support his family -
his wife and 2 daughters. They were supported for years by Mario,
and Ale could have felt a sense of shame for that. She could not be proud of her father's ability to take care of them, and her mother
had no profession - was not an independent woman. I imagine she dreamed of marrying a professional man. Am I correct in remembering that earlier in the novela she
commented that Medina was very attractive or was that Mina? Now we know that she is very attracted physically to JJ and of course she is fascinated by all of his money and now his magnificent house. Money seems very important to her -in contrast to Elsa who rejected the money. Nevertheless,I would think that it would bother Ale that JJ has no education and he did not earn that money; so she is somewhat conflicted on that score, and yes she does not like criticism from someone she
considers beneath her (as Xlnt just pointed out.)
Now, I have another question for the experts - I didn't see that anyone commented on this: I was under the impression that Ale did not like the furniture that JJ had chosen on his own, and I thought he told her then that he would furnish the place however she wanted. Then after the first squabble, he had defiantly unwrapped everything and moved in his buddies, and Limón and he enjoyed a guy pillow fight with no womanly interference. It was my impression that Ale considers JJ's taste to be a bit low class.
It was Mina who commented on how good looking Mauricio is. Ale just agreed with her, but wasn't as enthused as Mina.
I think Ale would have been offended at any man she was with implying that she was a slut, not just JJ.
I also don't think she slept with Roberto. Just went on amusing dates. I get the feeling she has not made romantic love a priority, although she likely had a serious boyfriend or two since high shcool or university with whom she had relations. Her life has been mainly about her profession and building her own business. JJ seems to tap into a carefree wild side that before she has not shown. I think he's good for her in that way and she feels it.
As for her father losing their money, Bertha seems to have more of a problem with this. Ale seems to have taken the experience of her mother and turned it into a positive- make sure she has her own profession so that her well being is not dependant on a man. Bertha did not learn this lesson at all.
As for Ale and money, in episode 6 she and David were talking about Bertha and their childhood. She told him they hadn't been rich when they were kids but she never cared about that, and she was quite sincere and calm about their position as the poor relatives who live in the rich uncle's house. She's not mad about money, that's Bertha. She almost married Roberto who wasn't a rich boy at all, only the son of a mediocre wannabe-gangster.
However, Ale and JJ are from two different worlds, indeed. Socially she's much above him, and not because of she's got a rich uncle and she's from a "good family" but because she's highly educated and she has a refined taste.
Mea culpa. :)))
Larrosa kept much of the novela the same. It's wonderful how well the story line still holds up in 2006 with the new version. I have to say that I think the new Fausto/Santiago/Mario is better. The two characters he plays look much different from each other than in the old version. But perhaps that's because of better makeup technology. Daniela Romo is beautiful of course, and makes a convincing Gabi that men would go gaga for.
I had thought that Ale would purchase everything and wondered
what she was saying in that dialogue and why she was not pleased.
JJ and Ale are an extremely interesting couple for a novela, their problems are born within their own personalities, not brought on by an outsider as in most conventional TNs. I’m not even watching STuD, but I know that Ivana is wreaking havoc on the love birds! I think that JJ and Ale are in the classic sense, just wrong for each other...Limon gets this and has said so many times. If left to their own devices, they just aren’t on the same page perspective wise, they view things differently. They are physically compatible but you need much more than that for a true loving/friendship/long term relationship. I hate to see people having to work so hard at getting along in the beginning, usually that comes into play down the road a bit!
We see the consequences of calling someone a “slut.” Even those of us in viewerville, including me, are thinking about Ale’s morals when we’ve never seen her do anything slutty. JJ is quick to throw that term around and it is coming from his own inner perspective, not like David who has others planting bad ideas in his brain about Gabi. JJ really needs to work on this, it is a bad quality in a man. Or perhaps he should find a nun who is on the verge of renouncing her vows, a young Mother Teresa type he could be happy with, no questions.
The scenes between Fausto as Mario then back to Fausto and David were some of the strongest that I have ever seen in a novela, just wonderful. Their “alliance” will be a joy to watch.
Vivi, thanks for the detailed Friday recap. I’ve read it once and I plan to read it again....many, many important details. Jere and Aribeth, thanks for your hard work of this week, it is much appreciated and my night time dessert after long, long days. THANKS to all of you!
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JJ already has this. Her name is Elsa. He doesn't want to defile Elsa. He is perfectly happy defiling Alejandra, though.
When I first read your comment I didn’t understand your meaning, but now I think I do. Are you saying that JJ’s view of Elsa, a “good girl” is the reason that he has no physical interest in her? That would be very interesting indeed! Wow!
Hope you all had a nice weekend; the husband and I finished the entire series of "Lost" yesterday.
It was the first time -- we waited all these years and watched it all at once over a couple months.
Hawaii is looking especially tropical today...
The biggest part of Part 3 for me was that the girls are staying at the hotel my mom worked in in the 80's!
Wow, what a pleasant surprise! :))
Jeri:
OT
Your Lost-marathon sounds very entertaining and fatiguing at the same time. :) It reminds me on last spring when I finished Battlestar Galactica in three weeks. Then I began to rewatch it immediately. It was love at the first sight.
I have many sweet memories of Lost: my friends and I started to follow it in 2005 and we spent years with discussing the episodes and gushing about the handsome and/or talented gentlemen (oh, Sayid, Jin, Saywer, Desmond, Ben, Locke, Charlie Hobbit, Goodwin, Richard, Mr. Big and Beautiful Eko, Frank with those blue eyes, and so on). We had fun.
However, I've never seen a show whose crappy finale dissappointed me as much as Lost's. Damon Lindelof, you and I are done professionally.
The finale was wonderful; and for once I did not have problems "Letting Go."
If you have to watch that lame Battlestar Gallactica over again, it's because it's lousy. :-D
I hate anything with the breath of Ronald D. Moore on it. He's disgusting.
Vivi, your title and picture of Gabi were sensational. Period. What a fascinating, detail laden recap.
Thank you for translating the Ale/JJ conversation at his house. I'm dismayed and disappointed in both of them. Ale is far too cold and clinical in her approach to any relationship not of her social class. And JJ's words and labeling Ale a slut were cruel and totally unwarranted. Sexual chemistry alone will not be enough to sustain this relationship. I agree with Sandy: "you need much more than that for a true loving/friendship/long term relationship". Amen.
David is maturing before our eyes. Along with everyone else I was stunned and thrilled he was able to accept so much hurtful history and not go to pieces. Now, can he sustain it?? :)
Loving this.
What insightful, interesting and fun comments.
Diana
It's interesting, I said exactly the same (disgusting) about Emilio Larrosa before LVO and now I love the old man. :) I don't know much about Moore, tried Star Trek DS9 but it isn't my cup of tea. However, BSG was a truly wonderful series, except one (important) element of its ending. The characters, the actors, the magnificent music, the script make me smile every time I think about them.
As for Lost: the writers had three (!) years to create an intelligent, coherent ending, but they rather chose the cheesy and easy emotional-spiritual-religious way and they hoped fans will be so touched by the farewell that they won't whine about the rape of characters (to name a few: Sayid, Ben, Claire, Kate, Juliet, Sawyer, Locke) and the dozens of red herrings and pivotal "WTF moments" that seemed to lead somewhere but after the last season they don't make sense anymore. I send them Don Noel's words from CS09: "No insultes mi inteligencia!" :)
Anyway. This is for you and your husband: Jacob and Man in Black: LOST Game
Because it's frikkin funny. :)
Back to LVO: I hope Leonardo (and maybe JJ) will find out the truth about Mario, too. These guys should team up.
OT:
LOVED BSG from beginning to end. Loved Lost in the beginning; totally lost interest in it in the middle; came to a final friendly/warm feeling about it by the end.
I just don't think morale should be meassured by how much a person enjoys being intimate with their significant other. By JJ's standards he'd be also a slut since he didn't seem to be a virgin either and he was the one who dragged her excitedly to the elevator that first time.
I think the problem with JJ is that he doesn't seem to have had proper education (to me, he doesn't even seem to be high school level actually) and then he spent 11 years in prison with men that probably spoke about women in all kinds of disrespectful ways.
As for Ale, like Vivi said: she hasn't had a chance to interact with Caramelo and she is not a mother and probably has had little to none interaction with other kids. She is just not thinking like a "mom" yet.
But there's nothing set in stone yet, we are only halfway through and there's enough time for our characteres to grow and overcome the difficulties presented by their differences and shortcomings.
By the way, I also loved LOST in it's first seasons and, even though I hated the last season, I loved the finale.
Jarocha
I'm wondering if it posed a north-south cultural divide back when travel was even harder.
Hope you had a nice time at your cousin's birthday party.
I do think there's a noticeable difference in culture between the states on the north and the ones from the south. The geography is also quite different.
Something funny: when I was little and I used to watch cartoons with Speedy Gonzalez or other typical images made in the US I always wondered why they always used to associate a cactus with México. It made no sense to me back then sice every place I've been here and whenever I traveled the images of the road were full of trees, either woods or jungles, cultives of sugar cain, bananas, coffee, etc. Of course you learn about the arid zones at school but it isn't until I traveled there that I was amazed by the difference and I loved it when I saw my first cactus lol.
Jarocha
What would you say is the most common image of the U.S.? Likely our cities, with fewer images of our sprawling farm land, fields, mountains, wetlands, desserts, etc.
Jarocha
It sounds like an interesting study, though. Aztecs didn't have the wheel and went by foot, so maybe the rough terrain didn't handicap them as much as people depending on wheels.
As far as Mexico and cactus, we probably got our notions from our own border states. Baja is a really dry wonderland, and that's what Hollywood folks probably saw.
Mexicans have to know there must be cactus somewhere from the eagle standing on the nopales on the flag.
Jeri: I guess I don't usually think of nopales when I think of cactus because the nopal seems to grow everywhere. Or at least it does here. The image of the flag is more about the legend of Tenochtitlan though.
Back in times of Moctezuma, the last Aztec emperor, the people living in Veracruz, called Totonacs, were working for the Aztec empire. Moctezuma's favorite meal was fish so they had a group of runners from Tenochtitlán (Mexico City) to Veracruz. Once they caught the fish, the first runner would go quickly to the place were the second was waiting and then the other would run to the next and then the next, etc. That way, Moctezuma would receive his fish that very same day it had been caught, just several hours later but still fresh.
Jarocha
Jarocha
Jarocha, I am making a little trip tomorrow northwest of the city an hour to two to Santo Domingo Yanhuitlán (Llanhuitlán) to visit a couple who are both ceramic sculptors, then to a weaving market (??north) My landlady and I will peel off from the group and stay overnight for a Wednesday market in one of the pueblos. All part of the Dominican convent trail. I would really like to discuss possibly meeting your Mother's relatives in Tuxtepec on my way to Vera Cruz on my way home in Feb/March. If possible would you write me directly at cherylnewmex@gmail.com. Thanks.
Continue to have a wonderful time in Mexico. I hope you can hook up with Jarocha's family. If you do, report back. If you don't, report back. It's sounds exciting either way. :)
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