Caray, Caray!

Sara great recap and thank you.

This is so WTF is wrong with PJP he leaves little JP with his murderous mother but also in the same house as Jimena and her mother? Does this even make a bit of sense there's just no way he can excuse all that she has done or he suspects she has done.

So for those commenting upon William Levy's hairline since this has ended already in Mexico. Last week on the Premios awards show William was a co host and he was sporting a peach fuzz hairstyle he cut off the rest of his hair.It was a weird look for him at first i didn't realize it was him until he spoke.

The Alonso virus shouldn't Dr. know it all be testing everyone Maria and Max have come in contact with?

Team Os as long as he doesn't end up with Vic i'm ok with it.
 

You're welcome! There is all kinds of wrong with this TN I don't even know where to begin.

You know what it reminds me of? One of those games where a person starts a story and people take turns adding to it! LOL!

I'm almost afraid of Fuerza.
 

Sara: LOVED the bullet points as that as what this TN needs...a few bullets to put it out of its misery!

Blusam: I was wondering about Sweet William's hair. If you recall, the perennial bed head look was getting on my last nerve. :))

Sara: Right now...Fuerza is not looking too enticing, but minds can change. Perhaps I should ask right off if this is another Meh-jia creation?

Gracias, Sara!

Susanita, The Innocent
 

I don't think it's Meh-jia. Are there even plans to recap it?
 

Sara haha i think that what happen but instead of good writers adding their two cents to extend the story they hired some hacks that just graduated from novela writing school.

No Fuerza is definitely not a Meh-jia project thank goodness for that. As a matter of fact i believe Jarocha commented on how good the beginning is of Fuerza and it could have been considered a all time classic. I think it might even be a original?

As for Meh-jia i think this latest disaster created by him has put him on noticed. As a matter of fact his next project also starring William Levy has been put on hold. That would be the all time classic Cunos de Lobos.I don't know if Televisa is waiting for the stench to clear from this basura and the complaints about Meh-jia being in charge of that project. Or if they are looking into replacing him altogether for that project or just scrapping it outright. He did shoot the pilot for that one according to what Jarocha knows. So it's wait and see how the outcome goes on that project?

Susanita i didn't really comment on his hair but i was quite disturbed about what was going with his styling? Of course the bed head sticking up all over the place was getting on my last nerve too.Someone mention he might have had hair plugs near the end. The matted down look when he took off his stocking cap to join Maria was ick!!!!! While it did look longer i still didn't like who ever the stylist on this show is how they styled his hair.

But then again i thought the stylist gave Victoria Ruffo some weird looks with her hair style too. At one point she reminded me of a Pekinese. Not sure this was the look the hairstylist was going for?
 

Does anyone know what the next telenovela will be after this train wreck is over?
 

Tks Sara, tough duty

Next novela is Fuerza del destino with David Zepeda, a good guy this time.

There isn't enough Febreeze to clear the stench of this mierda.

Whatever happens to Bernarda, please take Mejia too, ¡por favooor!.

How are they going to cure all these people on Monday & have a wedding? ¿Un milagro?

PJP knows his mother is a murderer & he leaves JPito with her?????????
These people are getting even more stupid.

I doubt there is even one complete brain cell among the writers.

I think I'm convinced, it IS worse than FELS.
 

long time, no comment..! haha! now, i'm back!!

So, for those who are talking about William's hair... I'm not really impressed by it... I was even screaming when I first saw it, no joke! haha! (but not too loud, though)... I wish his hair would grow fast...I'm really not into the new hairstyle.. :( But i'm trying my best to get used to it..
;)

this virus thing is just crazy!! why do they have to insert this crap??.. I hate Meija!.. I hope he'll not cast William and Maite in his telenovela again.. I want them to be with a better producer...
:)
 

Karen, the next 9PPM novela is La Fuerza del Destino; it starts Tuesday. It will be interesting to see David Zepeda as the hero instead of the villain.

Producer is Rosy Ocampo, who was responsible for La Fea Mas Bella and Camaleones.

If there are plans to recap it, I may be up for a day.

Now to TdA:

Blu, you beat me to the comments about JP. As I said yesterday, Milagros is right and Bernarda wouldn't harm JPito and JP would know that, but did both of them forget that Ximeana and Rox are living in that hellhouse? Do any of them know of Bernarda's plans for baby JP?

As an aside, I'm not a fan of infants, but he is a cutie. I think he inherited his CBIM title from little Raphael of Alborada. And he's a smart little guy with the instinct of a cat -- he does know evil when he encounters it!

Now I have a question: When Bernarda calls him "el ultimo Iturbide" do we believe she means "the latest" or "the last"? Isn't it also interesting that she uses her late husband's surname when he had no genetic connexion to JP in the first place?

Bernarda has to losing brain cells to leave Ximena alone with the baby.

Hospital scene: Why wasn't Max physically restrained from taking off the biohazard protection? He was permitted in the room only because he agreed to suit up. And did he and Maria vo-dee-oh-doh-doh in her hospital bed? Madre Dios! Does Max have a death wish?

Osvaldo playing detective: Where are the police when they're needed? Probably at the precinct eating pan dulce.
 

Thank you, Sara. You and the recappers have done such yeoman's service.

My prediction: Dr. todo figures it out as more of our crazy TN family feels faint and has blood dripping out of their noses. He is so brilliant and wonderful that Victoria can't resist him. I do like the fact that he seems to be the one person who can get Victoria to stop keening and carrying on.

Set my DVR for La Fuerza last night after watching TdA. Needed a lift.
 

How about "Dumb and Dumber" for the title or has that one been overused for this TN?

Great job, Sara!

I am watching Alborado on my DVR. Nice way to wash out the taste of this TN.

Cindy
 

Thank you Sara for the recap. This is the last one for you right? Thank you for all the work you've done on this tn.

I've got nothing to say about this episode. After PJP just let Burnie keep JPito, I shook my head and washed my hands of the episode.

I just sent Melinama a note on La Fuerza del Destino with info. Hopefully she'll set up a label and get a post up to rally recappers soon. Jarocha did give really high marks to Fuerza's beginning, and since it's a short tn (only 101 episodes) it should be pretty easy to get through.
 

Great job, Sara. My favorite witticism today:

"Virulence must correlate with stupidity!"

...and so we continue to learn more and more about this mysterious virus.

Initially appalled by the first half of last night's episode... I paused the TIVO, mixed a martini, and resumed watching. How powerful I felt when Max got up from the bed, staggered across the room, and I shouted out:

"Now drip blood from your nose!"

Carlos
 

Um....where the heck is the other baby????

Also, I think I figured out how this TN will end. The whole of DF will contract this virus. It will spread to America, where conservative talking heads will claim it's a bio-weapon attack. POTUS declares war on Mexico. Bernie rubs her forehead. The End.
 

Sara, thanks for the great recap.

This novela is getting more drawn out. They need to cure Maria and Max and finally marry them.

The evil people or bad guys are still strong and kicking. Are they ever going to be punished or what? There is Bernarda - crazy as ever and thinking she will get away with anything. She better not harm baby JP. There is Jimena who is still blaming Maria for her problems that she created herself. She tries to harm baby JP. She still hasn't learn anything about being bad. Her off and on boyfriend/lover Guillermo is still kicking too. He needs to go too. He is also evil too.

Please wrap it up nicely, ok.
 

Thanks Everyone!

Vivi-tonight is my last recap. It's a little bittersweet. I've really enjoyed it, but boy was this stuff bad.

UA-I had the same thought IRT "the last Iturbide" PJP isn't even an Iturbide....which means Maria isn't even an Iturbide. And don't Spanish surnames go First name, father's apellido, mother's apellido de husband's name?

Which apellido then becomes the offical one? Daddy name or mama name?

Vario-I keep thinking the same thing! How are they going to cure all these people, take out Burnie, Ximena and Gui, have Vic decide AND squeeze in a wedding in just 5 more episodes? Wait, they still have to get Fer pregnant, too!

In general-I think WL is going bald. Shaved head means either it's for a role, or he's going bald.
 

Ha Ha, you guys are funny. Have not been here in a long time, I have to ask, is Cruz still singing?

Did I see previews with Xi/Ji in a dirty wedding dress with a knife trying to attack Maria and Max, or was that just in my dreams?

The new novela, I love David I will watch anything he is in, and am glad he's changing it up and becoming a good guy, but Sandra I'm not impressed. While Maite has that habit of turning her head, Sandra has the habit of staring at the camera with her mouth open for long pauses when she is pondering a decision, I hope that's kept to a minimun in this TN or we never get to see it. I guess my ff button will be in use.
 

Nelli, that wasn't a dream. No te preocupes; only 5 hours to go.

Does anyone remember ever hearing either Bernarda's or Victoria's maiden names? Or Gonzalo's last name? If paternal DNA dictates the surname, his is the one JP and Maria should have.

Not that it really matters; Octavio Iturbide was JP's dad in every proper sense of the word and the flashbacks made him look like a good one. He was the one thing that prevented JP from being as evil as Mommie Direst.

After the finale airs I have a long post-analysis for everyone. Still working on it.
 

The synopsis of Fuerza is now posted.

The writers have a LOT to do and wrap up in less than 5 episodes! I will actually be quite impressed if they are able to tie up all the loose ends. Someone think of all the unanswered questions/loose ends so that we can check if they really accomplish it by the end.
 

Oh my gosh...I just typed this huge list with comments and questions and it was swallowed in space!

I can't do it again. Will comment later.

UA: I am so looking forward to your post game analysis. I hope you include compare and contrast to EPDA.

Gracias.

Susanita, The Innocent
 

I think there's going to be a "some time later" time jump. There has to be.

Padre Juan Pablo's name should be:

Juan Pablo {whatever Gonzalo's last name is}{whatever Burnie's last name is}

I would say JP's last name is "Candela" as Fausto's is but Fausto wasn't Gonzalo's son, so we really don't know what Gonzalo's last name was.

But if we keep "Iturbide" JP would be:

Juan Pablo Iturbide {whatever Burnie's last name is}

Maria would be:

Maria Iturbide Gutierrez {I think Gutierrez was Victoria's last name}

Baby Juan Pablo would be:

Juan Pablo Sandoval Iturbide

Fernanda should be:

Fernanda Sandoval Gutierrez de Robles

Max should be:

Maximiliano Sandoval Montenegro

And I think Burnie & JP were arguing last night about baby JP's name, with Burnie saying baby JP's name was "Juan Pablo Iturbide" and PJP saying "Um what about Max, the baby's name is Juan Pablo Sandoval" and Burnie got mad about that.
 

Susanita i've seen EPDA my comparison is EPDA was a good novela you wouldn't consider it a classic but it was good. The acting,directing and producing real good.

This right here TDA is one of the all time worst novelas i have ever seen in my entire life and i have seen some bad novelas before but this one just takes the cake. The first 30-35 episodes felt like filler episodes hardly any plot movement or development.

The actors seem like they were going through the motions repeating their lines without really acting.Not tooo mention some very bad casting of certain actors for some roles the main one for me was Victoria Ruffo she just didn't capture her role for me. Then throw in her sobbing and heaving "mi hijas" it was like watching and hearing nails on the chalkboard.

Then came the two hour episodes the plot really picked up when Univision did this the first time. But it wasn't sustained and then it went back down to more filler episodes and convoluted plots totally disconnecting the audience from the story.

Anything and everything it seems was used in this novela and not very successfully.

Variopinta now admits this basura has surpassed FELS in pure crapdom and i didn't even see FELS but i believe her.

Let us hope and pray this is the last project Meh-jia gets to work on or if he does do anymore novelas they are all regulated to the 1am time slot where they belong.
 

Sara, thanks for a wonderful recap and for the best evah analysis of our TN virus--"Virulence must correlate with stupidity!"

I reeeally wanted baby JPito to attack Berni and Ji during the diaper change--you know, that peeing in your face thing that baby boys like to do. Only what those two deserve.

Not fair that baby Osvaldito is relegated to the background. We should at least know that he's safe.
La Paloma

PS Word verification is watin, as in We Are All Watin for This Mess to Be OVER.
 

Thanks for your recaps! I couldn't have watched this without support from such funny, clever recappers - I think this TN is giving me emotional and neurological damage that even Dr.Todo couldn't cure. Speaking of him, I'm kind of hoping he gets the virus. And why don't the babies have the virus if Maria has it? Could they be immune and just pass it to all the adults? soon?
 

Os had the perfect line for this mess last night when he told the policeman, "Frankly I don't understand a thing". I almost choked laughing it was so on target. Miracle of miracles Os finds the house, sees she is gone and immediately knows she just left and went by bus HUH?

Dumb ass Max gets the disease in the blink of an eye thereby setting up the babies to be orphaned. I thought Todo was a tad out of line snarling at Leo and Vic. They are concerned since Max is their son. Wonder who will think to call Os and tell him. There seems to be a serious lack of cell phones in this crowd.

Now someone please explain to me how with a third person down with Lon's Disease that NO ONE has thought to quarantine the barrio and everyone who came in touch with Lon, Maria and Max. This thing is so contagious everyone was in bio hazard suits handling Maria but are in scrubs just wheeling Max through the halls - thereby exposing everyone in the hall. God help me this is the dumbest plot line in TN history.

MOAP and that creepy offering the baby to God pure as the driven snow to atone for her sins is beyond belief. Obvious a clear thought can't penetrate through that thick head of hair on PJP or he naively thinks his mother isn't as bad as he knows she is deep down. Wonder what he would think if he saw all that offering stuff.

Got the feeling things don't look good for Team Os but have hopes after Dr.KIA told Leo he felt like an intruder - because he is.
 

I haven’t been around lately, because I couldn’t wait for Univision to end this TN.

I notice that some of you are commenting about WL hair, according to his twitcam last week he said he had to shave his head for a movie that he is making with Barbara Mori.
rosa
 

Sara, Thanks so much for picking up this orphaned Tuesday and making sure the Sandoval Annals are complete -- and for being funny as hell at the same time. Like Carlos and Paloma, I am blown away by your brilliant line:

"Virulence must correlate with stupidity!"

We can leave for another day the discussion of guilty pleasures or why Smart Women Love Bad Telenovelas...

Susanita The Innocent. I like it -- just as long as you understand that there will be no kissing of rings. Nuh uh.
 

Osvaldo (abuelo and nieto) are outsiders at this point. I wouldn't be surprised if Pedro called Osvaldo I from Spain and offered him a job there, and if Osvaldo II's absence was explained that Grampa Osvaldo took Baby Osvaldo to Spain with him.

Nobody cares about Osvaldo except Fer and Viewerville.
 

This is way worse than FELS - by a gazillion miles. I HATE this novela for: 1) its completely stupidity; 2) ridiculous characters; 3) ridiculous plots and subplots; 4) the under-estimation of the intelligence of Viewerville; and the fact that I have been sucked into its ridiculous vortex and cannot get out!!!!

Alongside the signs in Mexico saying "No Mas Violencia" there should also be signs saying "No Mas Mejia".

As for Fuerza, I was in Mexico for a week in early July and I watched some Fuerza capitulos. Not sure how far in they were, but I honestly can't even remember what happened - it didn't seem like it was going to be very good. But, admittedly, I'm not a big David Zepeda fan.

All I know is that I can't wait for Triunfo de Caca to be O.V.E.R.!!!!
 

Before I go back to my now 4-page text document on this, will one of the recappers explain to me how far I can go with comparisons to EPDA without posting spoilers for those who haven't seen it. It is viewable online, so it's not like anyone has to settle for the cut-down DVD (which isn't as bad as most of these).
 

Haha and LMAFO at Anon 1:15pm so tell us how you really feel? Yes we have all been sucked into that same vortex and cannot get out!!

Hopefully this latest basura ends Meh-jia as we know him if it doesn't he has to has some type of incriminating pictures on some higher ups at Televisas even if he is related to someone i would still fire him for this mierda.

Catch slogan though "No Mas Meh-jia" let's hope it catches on Mexico:)
 

Urban Anthropologist

I can't think of anyway you can spoil this mierda. We all know what's going to happen, except for Osvaldo. Everyone has a miracle cure & Max y María get married.
Bernarda dies a horrible death.
Who cares?

Hasta que la plata nos separe, has taken the place of FELS in the hour before Alborada. It was made in Columbia in 2007, the forerunner to HQDNS. I've only watched Mexican novelas, so I look forward to it.
 

I was referring to spoilers for EPDA, although we know how the story ends. I know not everyone here has seen that one.
 

I really wish that it was possible to respond directly to each comment. By the time I get to the end I can't remember who said what and I too lazy to even go look.

UA-I am really stoked about your post TDA analysis. Like, I'm wondering if I should be concerned about myself.

In general-I don't have a lot of experience with TNs, but I hope I never have to watch something like this again. Ever.

I big plus to me for Fuerza--101 episodes. Now let's just hope Univision does't play with programming during its run. Honestly, that kind of soured me on TdA too.
 

And PS: I love Os. Osvaldo Rios did a fabulous job of making him an endearing character. Not to mention he was nice to look at.
 

So in the next four episodes--unless on Monday they're doing the two-hour thing, which Uni's online schedule doesn't reflect yet--they still need to sort out

1. Bernarda, Religiosa (insert theme from Mujeres Asesinas here), and her status as beehived evil incarnate;
2. the Triangle of Doom;
3. Alonso's Disease and the idiots it's infected;
4. Guillermo being the point man for some of Bernarda's misdeeds; and
5. karma recycling for Jimena and (possibly) Roxana.

If only they weren't doing it with so much stupid...
 

Thanks, Sara! Loved the ahah! re diapers and virulence of Alonso's Virus equating with stupidity. Worth a couple of snickers for sure!

Man, I must have dozed off. Thanks for the fill-ins cuz I'm not about to rewind this to find out what I missed.

Also, thanks so much for making this tn so much fun! I hope you might consider LFdD. But if not, I certainly have enjoyed reading your schtick!
 

Does TV y Novelas have an award for the viewers? If so, anyone that watched this basura should get one for courage.
 

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Bill, I love the Bernarda, Religiosa idea for a Mujeres Asesinas follow-up. I am now picturing the episode:

Forensic tech: "The victim had ligature marks on both wrists and ankles, was dehydrated, and appears to have died from a miocardial infarction."

Hot male detective (remember him from Soledad, Cautiva) presents list of items found at the crime scene and the crime scene photos which we do not see.

Dra Sofia (reads off the list): "Large crucifix, full-sized cross, whip, bible, incense, holy water."

Her eyes almost bug out at the crime scene photos, which we still do not see.

Dra. Sofia: "Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition."

Female detective enters with JP, who looks like he's in shock.

FD: "Dra., the padre would like to talk to you."

Dra Sofia: "Padre, will you step into my office?"

FD (to HMC as Dra Sofia waves her off): "Why in hell did that man become a priest?"


If anyone is interested, I'll post the next part in tomorrow's thread.
 

Urban Anthropologist
I thought EDPA was what this basura was based on, so the ending could be similar.
 

I have seen a few novela stories in duplicate, that is remakes of ones I have seen previously. Except for the two versions of El Clon (which didn't really have them) the villains don't tend to meet the exact same fates. More detail after el fin.
 

Sara - Thank you for the recrap. It's been one of those days, and I am just now in front of a computer to read it and enjoy the FOS (full-on snark). Can this plot get any stupider? Bring on the Por Fin!
 

Does anyone know if William levy will be playing any other soaps?
 

Mis aplausos, Sara, for hanging in there!

Add me to the chorus...virulence correlating with stupidity is priceless! Ah, Max...you couldn't have just showered with your hair dryer?