Monday, October 10, 2011
La Fuerza del Destino #46 Mon 10/10/11 You Must Be This Tall to Ride...
Good evening all! I am subbing for Vivi tonight. My it's a full episode! I may have missed a few things (especially business stuff.) Feel free to correct, add or clarify anything.
El refrito
Antolín makes and anonymous call to Lucrazy. He says he’s the one who took and sent the picture that proves Merry Piece is the one that killed that poor anciana. Lucrazy claims it was an accident (that is if by “accident” she means “purposely got into a car drunk, hit a woman and then purposely walked away”. Yeah. Accident my assident.) Anto wants 5 million pesos (approx. $372,000) to keep his mouth shut. Antolín is going to give her a week to get the cash together.
Lo Nuevo
Lucrazy asks him where he thinks she’s going to come up with that amount of money. He thinks that’s her problem and hangs up on her. She hyperventilates and we cut to the next scene in San Carlos, Sonora.
Lucía reports to Iván that the place is beautiful and that Alex is really happy….which pleases Iván. He asks Lucía if she’s talked about him to Alex. Lucía says no, the kid has been with Bruno the whole time (are the writers trying to insinuate that Bruno is the better therapist? ‘Cause there have been several comments about how Bruno is going to be the key to Alex and Iván’s reconciliation.) Anyhoo, Iván asks Lucía if it would be imprudent if he came to see them. Lucía doesn’t know. Iván wants to come see them. Lucía reminds him his dad said no. Iván says if the kid is happy and accepts Tony and Benito, then Alex shouldn’t still be afraid of him. Iván sees no reason why he can’t come visit and get to know the child. He wants Alex to realize that he’s not the villain he was “painted” to be. Lucía asks Iván to let her talk to him (Alex) and she’ll get back to Iván. They say good-bye. They almost sound like “no, you hang up first”. Dear Iván and Lucía—more “hubba hubba” and less saccharine, please.
An aside: I’m a little concerned about the look on Lucía’s face when she hangs up. Is she thinking about Camilo’s words? The ones where he said if Alex never accepts Iván it will come between them. You have your own ranch now, Camilo…why do you have to sow seeds of doubt in Lucía’s mind?
Oh.em.gee. Carmen is whining to her mother about her “mala suerte” (bad luck) Is she for real??? Arcelia tells her "you make your own luck and you’re reaping what you’ve sown." Carmen is delusional because she claims she’s done no harm to anyone. She wants to know why she doesn’t have a good job, a decent husband and a better life. Mamá reminds her she didn’t study and instead got involved with that “descgraciado” (pig, wretch etc.) but she shuts up because Camilo walks in….and he is NOT happy! He demands to know who Carmen blabbed to about Iván’s son. Carmen tries to act like she didn’t tell anyone. Camilo says she’s the only one who could have blabbed ( “pudo abrir la bocota” opened your big mouth.) Camilo fills her in on the Mondgragon blackmail scheme (“y ahora están chatajeando a los Curiel") Camilo says the only people who know about Ivan and Alex are the Curiels and them… and he knows he didn’t tell and that pretty much leaves Carmen as the blabbermouth. Carmen goes off and says she doesn’t know how the Meandragons could have found out (“han averiguado”) but it wasn’t her and she’s tired of everything being her fault…aaaand I pretty much didn’t catch anything after that. Wow. For someone who is guilty of the accusation, she sure is adamant in denying it. Beech. And I don’t mean the deciduous tree. Carmen leaves in a huff and Camilo turns to his mom and says he’s going to ask her something and he wants her to tell the truth: “Is Saúl Mondragon the father of Lichita?” Mamá is oh-snap-impactada and wonders where he came up with that idea. She says she doesn’t know who the father of Lichita is and that Carmen never told her. She changes the subject and offers him some guacamole.
Lulu runs to Merry Piece’s boudoir screaming about the 5 millones de pesos that the “infeliz” who sent the photo wants. Merry Piece says he’s a lunatic. Lulu says Merry Piece is the lunatic since she’s the one that left the club (antro) drunk and killed a woman. Merry Piece says the woman jumped out in front of her and Lulu claims that if Merry Piece hadn’t been drinking she would have braked in time. Merry Piece claims she tried, but couldn’t (stop in time that is.) Merry Piece asks if Lulu has talked to Abuela. Lulu says she knows about the photo but not the money demand (since that just happened.) Lulu isn’t going to call her at this hour since surely she is with Sr. Anthony. Merry Piece says they should use his money to pay the blackmail. Lulu tells her that he is not Santa Claus and the money is for the ranch, not to save an alcoholic from jail. Merry Piece freaks. She doesn’t want to go to jail. Lulu doesn’t know what they are going to do.
At the beach getaway Lucia is suggesting they invite Ivan to come to visit. Sr. Anthony doesn’t think it’s prudent. Lucia says why not? Alex is happy. Sr. Tony says that’s exactly why Ivan shouldn’t come. Lucia says she could talk to Alex and Ivan wants to come. Tony asks for Carlota’s opinion. Her opinion is that she’s tired what with the traveling and the sun. Lucia asks if she feels bad. Carly says no, but she wants to go to bed. Tony asks if she wants to go to the doctor. Carly says no and reitres.
Alex is on the phone with Gerry telling him not to worry. He tells Gerry he’s having a great time (me está pasando padrísimo.) They say good bye and we cut to Gerry’s house. Gerry reports to Carolooney that Alex is happy. Of course, she says, with the money Ivan is spending (she uses the word “desplagando”: to spread) any child would be happy. She imagines he must be in a dream house with servants, a pool, candy, the ocean. Gerry changes the subject and wants to know A. if she is still going to Mexico City tomorrow and B. if she’s in love with Antolín. She says yes. She asks that Gerry not tell her that Antolín is no good for her. She knows he’s a delinquent, but she loves him. He’s offered to help get her sight back… something Gerry never did. Gerry reminds her that she told him the doctors said there was not possibility of getting her sight back. She argues that medicine has made many advances, but she wasn’t trying to complain (hhmph. sure she wasn’t.) On the other hand, Alex is going to leave them soon and for him it might be too much of a sacrifice to care for a blind woman. Gerry tells her not to say such things. He’ll always be grateful for all she did for his son. Grandson she reminds him. Alex has his true father she says. She doesn’t want to be a nuisance. (I didn’t catch the expression.) She says goodnight and leaves.
Lucia is tucking Abue into bed. Carly is assuring her that the police have not come looking for Merry Piece and so far no problems. They blab a bit about Iván. Carly is ok with him coming. She ???? says stuff I don't catch. She tells Lucia to have enough character to fix her own problems. Lucia tells Abuea to rest and leaves. Carly calls Lulu. Lulu fills her in about the latest blackmail. Lulu thinks Carly should ask Tony for the money and Carly says no way. The solution is to sell the house and live at Sucker’s Ranch. Lulu doesn’t want to do that because it would mean admitting they were bankrupt (estamos en la quiebra). Carly doesn’t want to hear that. They would still have the ranch and could live with that. Lulu is worried what people would think. Carly asks what she would prefer, them living like country folk or folks knowing her daughter in jail? Lulu tells Carly the dude wants the money in a week and they can’t sell the house in that time (en ese plazo.) Carly admits Lulu is right. She tells Lulu to use the loan (?) but that the house should be put up for sale pronto. Lulu tries to get her to talk to Tony, but Carly says no. She also tells Lulu that she doesn’t want Lucia to know anything about the pictures or the blackmail. When Lulu asks why, Carly tells her because she’s happy and she doesn’t want anything to sour/spoil (amargue) her vacation.
Antolín and Camilo are talking about the upcoming trip to the D.F. Camilo asks about Antolín’s interest in the girl. He says she’s his friend. Camilo scoffs a bit. Antolín says she’s the only one that see’s he’s good deep down. Camilo says “yeah…really deep down (muy en el fondo.)” There’s a rehash of “who told the Meandragons about Ivan and Merry Piece having a child” discussion and they both hit upon the “Saul as baby daddy" scenario. Threats of beatings and other nefarious deeds are discussed. Antolín wants Saúl to take responsibility and give Lechita a name... and he knows how to make him do it.
Gerry is wishing Carolooney a good trip and hopes she gets good news. He’s a little worried about the length of the trip. Antolín says they’ll be spending the night in Guanajuato. Gerry tries to give him a little money, but Antolín won’t accept it. Gerardo walks them out and watches as Antolín walks Caro to the car. Gerry goes back in to talk to the maid/assistant. She’s sad they are going to be alone. She wants to know if Gerry thinks Caro will see again. He says if God wants it.
Merry Piece and Lulu have arrived at Camilo’s ranch. Merry Piece waves excitedly. Lulu tells her to chill. Camilo excuses the engineer who is excitedly discussing the agua. Merry Piece starts to sweet talk Camilo and says his ranch is really pretty. Lulu is all “Scram kid. I need to talk to Camilo.” Merry Piece asks if she can stay and listen. Lulu brusquely replies “no.” Merry Piece pouts and flounces away. Lulu tells him she’s afraid to leave Merry Piece alone in the house. She asks if he found a well (pozo.) Camilo tells her yes and it’s a good one. They discuss water rights. I’m pretty sure she tells him to lead the water to JJ’s ranch, but he says it would be better for her to lead her water to JJ and he could give her his water since her ranch is closer to the Meandragon ranch (that’s clear as mud, right?) She asks if he’ll regret that. He says he’s a man of is word. He talks farmy stuff I don’t catch. Lulu tells him to go ahead and do it, but he doesn’t have the money. Lulu says she doesn’t either.
Camilo goes over figures with Iván…who can’t figure out why Lulu doesn’t have the money to do the farmy stuff. They’re a little suspicious.
Over at the beach, Tony knows something is up and that Carly is worried. He wants her to talk to him. She doesn’t want to weigh him down (agobiar) with her personal bidnez. He says that’s what friends are for. He wants to know why Maripaz is back home. Carly says that’s the problem. Lulu heard bad stuff about MP and made her come home and Maripaz has debts, too. Debts? Tony asks. Sure, Carly says in jewelry and other stores (not to mention that celestial debt for killing someone.) Marizpaz doesn’t want to be there and is rude and says horrible things to Lucia. In short, Maripaz is making their lives a living hell. Tony says she’s 30. Leave her alone and let her do what she wants. Carly wants that, but Lulu is so worried about appearances. And even though her granddaughter is bad, Carly still worries about what could happen. Tony scoffs and the family ties (lazos familiares) and says it’s not fair that one person is ruining the lives of everyone around them. Carly agrees, but they can’t abandon her. Tony thinks Carly hasn’t told him everything. Carly says that’s all she can tell him for now.
Alex wants to swim but Lucia tells him neither Benito nor she knows how to swim in the ocean. (Really? Did I hear that right?) Alex says Antolín knew how. They talk a bit about Anto and Caro’s trip. Lucia says she knows someone who knows how to swim really well and could help if he came. Alex asks who , but is not pleased when he hears it’s Iván. He says Iván wants to kidnap him. Lucía says that is not the case. Alex says he aunt told him that Iván lost his son and that he thinks Alex is the lost son. Lucia says it’s true he lost a son, but that he’s not going to kidnap Alex. Iván loves kids. He’s the one that planned this whole trip and all the fun stuffs. She says it is a gift for him, because Ivan loves him.
Back in Alamos, Lulu and Maripaz are returning home and Lulu is telling Maripaz to stop flirting with Camilo. Maripaz wants to know why not—dude is handsome, educated, has land. She digs, why not mom? Are YOU interested him? THWACK!!! Lulu gets her with a right hook and tells her not to be disrespectful. Maripaz takes it like a …er..woman and needles her some more. I didn’t catch the exact words…anyone want to fill in the blanks? I’m dying to know what she said…I think she said despite the menopause, her mamá still gets “urges.”
Lucia continues to try to win Alex to Ivan’s side. She says Iván is a good guy…didn’t he risk his life to protect Bruno from the snake? Ivan is sad he wants be with them, but since Alex was afraid, he didn’t come. Alex asks if he comes is he going to kidnap me? Lucia can’t believe he’s still talking like that. Ivan just wants to be his friend and it hurts him that Alex has rejected him. She says Ivan wants to come. …but they change scene before we get Alex’s answer. GAH!
JJ is berating Saúl about the Cuthberto fiasco and losing his money. Lulu calls and says she’ll give him the water, but he has to keep the Ivan and Maripaz gossip to himself. JJ says of course, he’s a man of honor. *Snort* Lulu reads my mind and tells him he was never such a thing so he might as well can it. He's despotic and other stuff, but she knows no one would say that to his face ‘cause they are afraid. He says fear is part of power. What an ass.
Iván is eating with Camilo and Arecelia (let’s see if we get some product placement.) Arcelia mentions that Carmen and Lichita are out so they can talk “con confianza” (strictly entre nous.) She asks what he’s going to do about his son. Iván doesn’t know. He’s really worried the Meandragons are going to tell Maripaz. Camilo thinks that JJ will be quiet because now he’s getting water from the Curiels. Saúl, however is a different story. Saúl is “ladino” (sly; cunning) and Camilo still thinks he’s the one that did the nasty with Carmen and that he is Lichita’s dad. Arcelia asks how he could think such a thing. Camilo says he does think such a thing and so does Antolín. Arcelia asks why he talked to Antolín about such a thing. Antolín is capable of any sort of “barbaridad” (atrocity.) Camilo says blabbity blah (no clue, sorry) to which Iván responds “El valiente vive hasta que el cobarde quiere.” (The brave man lives as long as the coward allows…perhaps others can shed some light on this aphorism…’cause even in context I didn’t get it.) Arcelia says they are “inventando tonterías” (making up stuff.) Camilo says we’ll see if we’re “inventando tonterías”. Iván moves his lips but we don’t know what he says. Probably something like “chill out bro”.
At the beach house Alex comes to Lucía’s room to call Gerry. He wants to ask him something…would it be ok if they invited Iván? Gerry thinks it’s a fine idea. Iván is the one that rented the house and he loves Alex a lot. Alex says “really?, he’s not going to kidnap me?” Gerry assures him that’s just silliness. Alex says goodbye and tells Lucía to call Iván. Lucia tells Alex to do it and he worries that Iván will say no. Lucía thinks he won’t say no and dials the number. The phone rings at Casa Galván (they are still discussing the Saúl/Lichita/Antolín/JJ square…but I don’t catch details.) Iván excuses himself to answer. He answers “sí mi amor” and Alex says “Iván?” (I’m glad Iván didn’t answer with something like “I wanna sex you up” that would have been awkward.) Iván asks if something has happened and Alex explains that he’s stuck at the ocean with a bunch of dweebs that don’t know how to swim so he was wondering if Iván could come and teach him. Iván is all verklempt and tells “hijo” he will come tomorrow. Alex asks if he wants to talk to Lucía, but Iván says no, “just tell her I'll call later”. They say good-bye and hang up. Iván sheds the single glycerin tear of happiness.
Iván returns to the dining room table and tells Camilo and Arcelia the good news. Applause, man-hugs and praise for Lucía . Arcelia thinks she’s a real treasure and Iván is so lucky to have her “Don’t you agree Camilo?” Threatening music and dumb-face from Camilo.
Lucía makes sure Tony is ok with Iván coming. Tony is fine with it since it’s ok with Alex. Tony asks Lucía if she helped convince the little guy. She says yeah, we just talked about stuff. She can’t believe the ideas Caro planted in his head. They blabber a bit about Caro and her trip to the DF to get her sight back. Tony changes the subject to Carly and her being worried about Maripaz. Tony again suggests they leave Maripaz to her own devices, but Lucía says Carly still worries about Maripaz. Alex interrupts from the pool and we get a discussion about dogs, swimming and pools. Carly comes to the patio and Tony asks how her nap was. She responds “me cayó de perlas”…whatever that means....it hit the spot? Tony asks if she would like anything and they both decide to have a margarita. Benito is sent to water the dog and fetch the potent potables. Carly tells Tony he shouldn’t be drinking. Tony says it’s to celebrate. Carly asks what they are celebrating and Tony tells her about Iván’s eminent arrival. Meanwhile, Lucía and Ivan are on the phone being lovey dovey…and Lucía has a plan for Alex and Iván to be together so that Alex is not uncomfortable. Iván is all ears.
Camilo helps mamá in the kitchen and ruh-roh, she’s on to him. She rightly guesses that he has the hots for Lucía. She asks him if he’s in love with her. He says yes and gets a smack upside the head for his honesty. Arcelia tells him he’s got to get her out of his head (smack) and she’s his best friend’s girl (smack) and Lucía loves (smack) Iván and Iván (smack) loves her (smack.) Camilo says he knows that . Arcelia smacks him again for good measure and tells Camilo if Iván suspects anything, Camilo will lose everything. ..not just the job and truck, but Iván’s friendship. Arcelia says something about the nice girl Antolín is seeing and Camilo tells her about the lies that nice girl planted in Alex’s head.
In the DF, Antolín and Caro head for the doctor’s office.
At the beach, breakfast is served. Today there will be a trip to the amusement park while they wait for Iván to arrive and no Alex, Bruno cannot come. Dogs aren’t allowed at amusement parks. FF>>
Back at the doctor’s office, Antolín is nervously waiting. The doctor comes to get Antolín and takes him back to Carolina in the examination room. She will not be able to get her sight back in both eyes. Carolina says she knew they shouldn’t have come. The doctor says she can regain the sight in her right eye. Medical talk. Apparently the accident really did a number on the left optic nerve and that’s a lost cause, but the right one just has a corneal lesión and can be repaired. Carolina looks hopeful.
Benito talks to Bruno. Iván arrives (he gets the palatial bedroom.) Iván is going to take a bath. Do we get to watch? FF>>
Hmmm. Carolina, Doctor and Antolín are discussing getting her on the corneal transplant list. Someone’s gonna die and Caro will get the cornea. How much you wanna bet? Who will it be? They discuss how long the wait can be for a donor. Don’t you just know Antolín is thinking of killing someone? The doctor says he’ll let them know as soon as a donation is available and they will have to come immediately. Antolín asks how much it will cost. As Caro and Antolín leave, he tells her to leave the money problem up to him. He’ll take care of it. She doesn’t want him to rob or do anything bad to get the money. Antolín says he’s just going to do a favor for someone. She asks when he will be back. I think he says tomorrow. She doesn’t want him getting into trouble because of her. A little blabbity blah I don’t catch. Carolina straight up asks if he’s going to kill anyone and he says if he kills someone it’s because they deserve it.
Amusement park and Alex wants to ride everything. Tony and Carly are going to go sit down. Tony hands the tickets over to Lucía. Lucía suggests they start with the bumper cars. Over on the old folk’s bench, Tony thinks Carlota hasn’t seemed very happy. She says of course she’s happy. Iván and Lucía are in love, Alex is happy. She says Alex could accept his father, what more can she ask for? Well, actually... she would ask the three kings if her daughter could have a better character and that Maripaz… Tony suggests that Maripaz marry again. Carlota says and make some other poor sap miserable? Heck no. They talk about Maripaz perhaps going to a convent and decide that’s a hell no. Tony moves on to a better subject: When they get back to Alamos, how ‘bout he throws a big house warming cum engagement announcement party? Viewerville says heck yeah! That’s the perfect venue for a big “mierda hitting the fan” scene!!!! Carlota for some crazy reason thinks they need to ask Lulu’s opinion. Tony wonders since when do they need to ask Lulu’s opinion? Iván and Lucía are old enough to make their own decisions. Carlota claims they should talk to Lulu just out of consideration. Tony thinks she’s hiding something. She says she can’t tell him everything.
Iván buys bunches of tickets and Lucía and Alex are at the bumper cars. As Alex and Lucía leave their car Alex asks what’s next. Lucía suggest “El Ciclón” (as someone who hates rides, I have to say that doesn’t sound good.) Iván calls. Lucía tells him he arrived just in time. They arrange to meet at the Ciclón…where they don’t let children ride alone.
At the Ciclón, Alex wants to ride and he has tickets, but he can't get on alone. Lucía won’t ‘cause she’ll get “mareos” (queasy/nauseous) and Tony can’t cause he’s sick. But lo! Here arriveth Iván to save the day!!! Alex doesn’t look fully convinced…but the power of the Ciclón compels him to accept Iván. They spin around while the love theme plays. Day at the amusement park montage. David Zepeda can juggle and so can Alex! Cotton candy should not be that pink. *burp*
Alex says he had a great day and is glad Iván came. He asks if tomorrow he will teach him how to swim. And there will be a trip to the aquarium, too.
Lucía and Iván take a walk to the water and the phallic cactus. Smoochies.
Later that evening Iván has prepared a surprise. He counts to three and Lucía opens her eyes. There better be more than a line of tiki torches. Right now I am not impressed (and I’m having Triunfo flashbacks.) Tent on the beach and shadow-stripping. And fireworks? Are those for real or metaphoric? Excuse me while I laugh my ass off.
Avances for miércoles (No show Tuesday)
Avances for miércoles (No show Tuesday)
- Ivan and Lucia are getting married?
- Is Alex unconscious?
- Saúl convinces Maripaz to force Iván to marry HER
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I guess somebody will be dying soon. Who will it be?
Permalink posted by 
: Monday, October 10, 2011 at 11:24:00 PM EDT
: Monday, October 10, 2011 at 11:24:00 PM EDT
If Antolin is doing the killing we know it won't be his mother, Carmen, or Camilo. It won't be anyone we care about at this time.
We're only about at the halfway mark so we won't be rid of Saul.
I have difficulty with the idea of Antolin killing in cold blood, Not to mention that Caroloony (good one!) isn't worth it.
I hope Ivan brought plenty of condoms.
The idea of Lucrazia and Merry Piece fighting over a guy is just too amusing.
We're only about at the halfway mark so we won't be rid of Saul.
I have difficulty with the idea of Antolin killing in cold blood, Not to mention that Caroloony (good one!) isn't worth it.
I hope Ivan brought plenty of condoms.
The idea of Lucrazia and Merry Piece fighting over a guy is just too amusing.
Thanks Sara for the great and fast recap! And the detail!
I was watching it last night and got most of the conversations, but your recap was a big help because when anyone gets excited they talk too fast and I miss parts.
It is hard to jump on the bandwagon with this TN because there are few sterling characters to sympathize with. Tony, Ivan, Lucia, mostly Tony. Lucia and Carly protecting Maripaz as though Maripaz is more important than the poor woman who was hit by the car...Just turn the skank over to the police already, it seems like it is going to happen eventually.
Loved the scene with Arcelia smacking Camilo around.
I was watching it last night and got most of the conversations, but your recap was a big help because when anyone gets excited they talk too fast and I miss parts.
It is hard to jump on the bandwagon with this TN because there are few sterling characters to sympathize with. Tony, Ivan, Lucia, mostly Tony. Lucia and Carly protecting Maripaz as though Maripaz is more important than the poor woman who was hit by the car...Just turn the skank over to the police already, it seems like it is going to happen eventually.
Loved the scene with Arcelia smacking Camilo around.
Thanks, Sara, for the thorough and funny recap.
I did love the Carmelo's line about Carolina having to dig deep, muy al fondo, to find Antolin's goodness.
On the other hand, with a mother like Arcelia -- you get two bad eggs and one who is too good to be true until he betrays his friend of many years. Wow, the screeching and hitting that only dim-bulb Carmelo will take. I do hope Judith sets her sights on him and liberates him from his family. He may need more counseling than his brother and sister.
I'm a sap, but I did enjoy the scenes of Ivan and Alex at the amusement park.
Good episode, with lots happening.
I did love the Carmelo's line about Carolina having to dig deep, muy al fondo, to find Antolin's goodness.
On the other hand, with a mother like Arcelia -- you get two bad eggs and one who is too good to be true until he betrays his friend of many years. Wow, the screeching and hitting that only dim-bulb Carmelo will take. I do hope Judith sets her sights on him and liberates him from his family. He may need more counseling than his brother and sister.
I'm a sap, but I did enjoy the scenes of Ivan and Alex at the amusement park.
Good episode, with lots happening.
Have to agree with Emarie. I loved this TN in the very beginning, but now I don't know.
I've never cared for the Ivan Lucia match - at least the older version, but the younger actors did a splendid job.
And worse now they are suggesting Merrypeace marry Ivan, yuck, why? I just can't imagine it. Why so much suffering for Ivan, and why is he sticking around for it. I am sure noone is going to stick up for Ivan and instead let Merrypeace get her own way. Geez Tony says he loves Ivan like his own son, but I've never seen a man make another man suffer so.
I've never cared for the Ivan Lucia match - at least the older version, but the younger actors did a splendid job.
And worse now they are suggesting Merrypeace marry Ivan, yuck, why? I just can't imagine it. Why so much suffering for Ivan, and why is he sticking around for it. I am sure noone is going to stick up for Ivan and instead let Merrypeace get her own way. Geez Tony says he loves Ivan like his own son, but I've never seen a man make another man suffer so.
Permalink posted by : Tuesday, October 11, 2011 at 8:47:00 AM EDT
: Tuesday, October 11, 2011 at 8:47:00 AM EDT
Love stories I'm interested in:
Ivan + Alex
Tony + Carly
Tony + Bruno
Antolin + Carolina (the only way I can tolerate her)
Judith + anyone
David + anyone not named Maripaz
Lucrecia + Her Urges
Love story I am NOT interested in:
Ivan + Lucia
I was more interested in Ivan + Teen Lucia than Ivan + Adult Lucia. She's just boring to me.
I did not like Arcelia busting Camilo upside the head. Maybe if she had done that with Antolin and Carmen they wouldn't have turned out so bad.
Carmen is the one who needs to be busted upside the head down to the white meat. "Wah wah wah why do I have such bad luck, why can't I find a good man, why did I get fired? Why is it all happening to me? Waaaaaaaaaaaaah."
Well,
a) You're a social climbing golddigger who thought birthing a Mondragon child would elevate your lazy ass, but now you're a baby mama who no respectable man in town would marry.
b) You're a lazy twit with a bad attitude, that's why you keep getting fired. Ivan & Tony gave you a job opportunity you DID NOT DESERVE b/c they were trying to be nice, and you repaid them by blabbing their business, being nasty to household guests & staff and letting their dog roam free
c) You don't understand that what you put out, you get back. You put out nastiness, you will get nastiness back.
That's all I have to say right now.
Ivan + Alex
Tony + Carly
Tony + Bruno
Antolin + Carolina (the only way I can tolerate her)
Judith + anyone
David + anyone not named Maripaz
Lucrecia + Her Urges
Love story I am NOT interested in:
Ivan + Lucia
I was more interested in Ivan + Teen Lucia than Ivan + Adult Lucia. She's just boring to me.
I did not like Arcelia busting Camilo upside the head. Maybe if she had done that with Antolin and Carmen they wouldn't have turned out so bad.
Carmen is the one who needs to be busted upside the head down to the white meat. "Wah wah wah why do I have such bad luck, why can't I find a good man, why did I get fired? Why is it all happening to me? Waaaaaaaaaaaaah."
Well,
a) You're a social climbing golddigger who thought birthing a Mondragon child would elevate your lazy ass, but now you're a baby mama who no respectable man in town would marry.
b) You're a lazy twit with a bad attitude, that's why you keep getting fired. Ivan & Tony gave you a job opportunity you DID NOT DESERVE b/c they were trying to be nice, and you repaid them by blabbing their business, being nasty to household guests & staff and letting their dog roam free
c) You don't understand that what you put out, you get back. You put out nastiness, you will get nastiness back.
That's all I have to say right now.
Permalink posted by : Tuesday, October 11, 2011 at 9:41:00 AM EDT
: Tuesday, October 11, 2011 at 9:41:00 AM EDT
The amusement park scenes were cute; I'm waiting for Alex to swim with Flipper (oh, does that show my age). That's probably on Wednesday (my night).
Finally had my morning caffeine so I have to say that Saul and Maripaz will scheme to break up Ivan and Lucia for them to share their misery. There isn't a man in Alamos stupid enough to consider marrying this train wreck and end up with the suegra from hell.
Word verification is "mizer" which describes Saul with regard to his daughter (who deserves better parents than she got).
Finally had my morning caffeine so I have to say that Saul and Maripaz will scheme to break up Ivan and Lucia for them to share their misery. There isn't a man in Alamos stupid enough to consider marrying this train wreck and end up with the suegra from hell.
Word verification is "mizer" which describes Saul with regard to his daughter (who deserves better parents than she got).
I had the same reaction to the fireworks. As if the tiki torches and silky tent on the beach weren't enough of a "Hey, everybody on the island! Sex happening right here; check it out!" beacon. No, now you've also got a firework crew on a barge watching for the right moment to light the fuses. I guess they need the theatrics because they don't have much chemistry.
I thought the amusement park scenes were fun but just watching the ciclon on the television screen was making me sick. Roller coasters I can do, spinny things no.
I was kind of annoyed that the doctor was talking to Antolin about Caro's condition instead of speaking directly to her. She isn't a child, even if she sometimes acts like one.
The doctor clarified that one can't jump ahead on the transplant list, so I hope Antolin isn't planning to go on a murder spree until enough people die for Carolooney to get her cornea. There are only a few people I want to die. He's welcome to swing over to Ensenada and off Dr. DieAlready from CME.
I thought the amusement park scenes were fun but just watching the ciclon on the television screen was making me sick. Roller coasters I can do, spinny things no.
I was kind of annoyed that the doctor was talking to Antolin about Caro's condition instead of speaking directly to her. She isn't a child, even if she sometimes acts like one.
The doctor clarified that one can't jump ahead on the transplant list, so I hope Antolin isn't planning to go on a murder spree until enough people die for Carolooney to get her cornea. There are only a few people I want to die. He's welcome to swing over to Ensenada and off Dr. DieAlready from CME.
While Antolin is plenty shady in his own right, I agree with UA that he's not a killer. If he actually did kill someone, though (El Gordo, pick up line one...), that'd ruin any chances for redemption and happiness with Carolina--which could go either way.
As for Ivan, Lucia, and the fireworks...I don't even have the words. I guess the stock footage of blossoming flowers got lost. :)
As for Ivan, Lucia, and the fireworks...I don't even have the words. I guess the stock footage of blossoming flowers got lost. :)
Antolín did kill someone. It was the guy that was attacking Iván, stabbed him. I don't think he is going to kill anyone for corneas though, maybe Saul.
Tks for the sub job Sara, funny.
Tks for the sub job Sara, funny.
Permalink posted by : Tuesday, October 11, 2011 at 2:23:00 PM EDT
: Tuesday, October 11, 2011 at 2:23:00 PM EDT
Oop, forgot about that poor redshirt (and that kind of torpedoes my previous theory--unless it never, ever, gets mentioned again).
Why would Antolin and Camilo want Saul to claim Lichita as his daughter and give her the Meandragon family name? That child is probably better off not knowing what a scumbag her father is and not being associated with that family.
I do like that people are able to figure things out in this novela, rather than remaining clueless and never putting anything together until the very end or until someone outright tells them the way some shows go.
I do like that people are able to figure things out in this novela, rather than remaining clueless and never putting anything together until the very end or until someone outright tells them the way some shows go.
Why would Antolin and Camilo want Saul to claim Lichita as his daughter and give her the Meandragon family name?
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Well, reputation and honor seem to mean a whole lot in this town. If Saul was forced to claim Lichita, marry Carmen & legitimize them, Carmen & Lichita wouldn't be "that ho & her bastard baby."
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Well, reputation and honor seem to mean a whole lot in this town. If Saul was forced to claim Lichita, marry Carmen & legitimize them, Carmen & Lichita wouldn't be "that ho & her bastard baby."
Permalink posted by : Tuesday, October 11, 2011 at 2:34:00 PM EDT
: Tuesday, October 11, 2011 at 2:34:00 PM EDT
But Saul seems worse than illegitimacy...even in a traditional town. Carmen might deserve to get stuck with a loser like him, but Lichita doesn't.
That beach romantic evening - Gag Me!
The really dumb torch walkway. Then the lit up tent! Please! Although I did crack a smile thinking of what things might really show up in silhouette if not careful - LOL!. And then fireworks? PLEASE!!!! Although I did imagine Lucia telling Ivan - Wait! Let's go watch the fireworks instead!
Anyone know where the beach resort is? It reminds me of some areas I've seen near Manzanillo. I wouldn't mind spending a week staring at that view or crossing it by boat. Lovely!
Audrey
The really dumb torch walkway. Then the lit up tent! Please! Although I did crack a smile thinking of what things might really show up in silhouette if not careful - LOL!. And then fireworks? PLEASE!!!! Although I did imagine Lucia telling Ivan - Wait! Let's go watch the fireworks instead!
Anyone know where the beach resort is? It reminds me of some areas I've seen near Manzanillo. I wouldn't mind spending a week staring at that view or crossing it by boat. Lovely!
Audrey
Permalink posted by : Tuesday, October 11, 2011 at 2:55:00 PM EDT
: Tuesday, October 11, 2011 at 2:55:00 PM EDT
Thanks for the detailed recap. Funny, too.
How are Antolin and Carolina going to get to D.F. immediately if there is a donor? (Will they have the Doctor from Triunfo do the operation locally?)
How would Saul and Carmen live since neither has $ without JJ approval and scams? And we know he won't approve.
Is Abue getting ill? I hope not.She seems so tired.
Camilo is doing a huge favor to Lulu giving her water, even if he is her ranch manager he doesn't owe her water. It could risk his own land if there's a dry spell. So why?
This TN makes me ask so many ???
How are Antolin and Carolina going to get to D.F. immediately if there is a donor? (Will they have the Doctor from Triunfo do the operation locally?)
How would Saul and Carmen live since neither has $ without JJ approval and scams? And we know he won't approve.
Is Abue getting ill? I hope not.She seems so tired.
Camilo is doing a huge favor to Lulu giving her water, even if he is her ranch manager he doesn't owe her water. It could risk his own land if there's a dry spell. So why?
This TN makes me ask so many ???
Permalink posted by : Tuesday, October 11, 2011 at 2:55:00 PM EDT
: Tuesday, October 11, 2011 at 2:55:00 PM EDT
Audrey - "things that might show up in silhouette"...well, we saw that Ivan has bigger breasts than Lucia does. Fortunately they cut away there... but I was thinking the same thing. Any neighbors or late-returning fishermen are going to get quite a show.
But Saul is a MondraGON...he's part of the richest family in town, and membership has it's priviledges. It's why Maripaz wanted to marry David...sure there were gay rumors but he was a MondragON. There was a certain prestige to being one of them.
Lichita is a Mondragon...Camilo & Antolin just want her to take her rightful place. In their cases I don't think they particularly care that a Mondragon is the one who knocked Carmen up, just that the baby daddy do right by Carmen & Lichita. Benito could be the baby daddy and they'd want to force him to marry Carmen & give her & Lichita their rightful places.
I'm trying to remember who knows Ivan is also a Mondragon. Here's who I can think of off hand:
Ivan
Lucrezia
Lucia
Camilo
Arcelia
JJ
Saul
David
Judith
Ester
Toni
I don't think Maripaz or Antolin, I'm not sure if Carly knows. I'm pretty sure Carmen does NOT know or she might have been nicer on the job...since she was trying to social climb with the Mondragons & all.
People who know Ivan is the true Curiel heir:
Ivan
Carlota
Lucrezia
Lucia
Camilo
The Notary
Toni
I'm not sure if Arcelia & Antolin know, because Alicia didn't even know, but Ivan probably told Arcelia to explain why he was able to give 1/3 of the Curiel ranch to Camilo.
I'd like to see Ivan & Judith interact. Ivan has interacted with all of his living blood relatives EXCEPT Judith.
Lichita is a Mondragon...Camilo & Antolin just want her to take her rightful place. In their cases I don't think they particularly care that a Mondragon is the one who knocked Carmen up, just that the baby daddy do right by Carmen & Lichita. Benito could be the baby daddy and they'd want to force him to marry Carmen & give her & Lichita their rightful places.
I'm trying to remember who knows Ivan is also a Mondragon. Here's who I can think of off hand:
Ivan
Lucrezia
Lucia
Camilo
Arcelia
JJ
Saul
David
Judith
Ester
Toni
I don't think Maripaz or Antolin, I'm not sure if Carly knows. I'm pretty sure Carmen does NOT know or she might have been nicer on the job...since she was trying to social climb with the Mondragons & all.
People who know Ivan is the true Curiel heir:
Ivan
Carlota
Lucrezia
Lucia
Camilo
The Notary
Toni
I'm not sure if Arcelia & Antolin know, because Alicia didn't even know, but Ivan probably told Arcelia to explain why he was able to give 1/3 of the Curiel ranch to Camilo.
I'd like to see Ivan & Judith interact. Ivan has interacted with all of his living blood relatives EXCEPT Judith.
Permalink posted by : Tuesday, October 11, 2011 at 3:45:00 PM EDT
: Tuesday, October 11, 2011 at 3:45:00 PM EDT
Lucrazia would not care which of her daughters married Ivan as long as his dinero starts entering her coffers. However, it would not be in her best interests to make a bigger enemy of him so I don't see her falling in with Saul's scheme.
Saul is only looking to get back at Ivan for being a better man and at Lucia for jilting him. He's a more savage version of Augustin from CME. Maripaz is delusional.
Saul is only looking to get back at Ivan for being a better man and at Lucia for jilting him. He's a more savage version of Augustin from CME. Maripaz is delusional.
That love scene was more like a weird shadow puppet porno film. Yeah, the couple lacks screen chemistry.
I keep reminding myself this is just to learn espanol so lighten up...
I keep reminding myself this is just to learn espanol so lighten up...
Well, the Sexy Strippin' Shack was orchestrated by Ivan, who has fantasies of doing it in a dung-filled dovecote. Expectations should have been low.
Can you imagine the discussion with the concierge who set that up?
Ivan: No dovecotes? Well, are there any chicken coops in the area? None. Hmm, what about a dank cave? Okay, I guess I'll take a tent on the beach if it's the best you can do. No, I do not just want a nice bedroom. Have you no imagination? Make sure the tent is see-through, though. And lots of torches so she won't notice she's getting sand in uncomfortable places until it's too late. Obviously, we'll need a fireworks show. What do you mean that's ridiculous? Here's 2000 pesos that says it isn't. There, that's the attitude I like to see.
Can you imagine the discussion with the concierge who set that up?
Ivan: No dovecotes? Well, are there any chicken coops in the area? None. Hmm, what about a dank cave? Okay, I guess I'll take a tent on the beach if it's the best you can do. No, I do not just want a nice bedroom. Have you no imagination? Make sure the tent is see-through, though. And lots of torches so she won't notice she's getting sand in uncomfortable places until it's too late. Obviously, we'll need a fireworks show. What do you mean that's ridiculous? Here's 2000 pesos that says it isn't. There, that's the attitude I like to see.
Thanks for the recap Sara. Carloony was great!
ITA that Antolin killing another person would be bad. As it stands now, he had questionable morals but another death may put him beyond the pale.
ITA that Antolin killing another person would be bad. As it stands now, he had questionable morals but another death may put him beyond the pale.
Why couldn't Ivan just get that insanely gorgeous hotel suite that didn't work for David and Merry Piece?
Sara- Amiga, thanks for filling in for me. This was the last thing I saw before going right to sleep last night in prep for my early conference morning today. Did I understand correctly that there was no show tonight? I gather from the CME line that soccer was on instead.
The recap was wonderful and snarkilicious! Excellent.
I have just been cracking up reading the comments. Julia, you are hilarious. :) I had to compare in my mind the high cheese factor in this love scene, to the giggly fun love scene in CME last night. I preferred the one in CME, but I loved the scenary in this one. That beach house is amazing! I also really enjoyed the Ivan-Alex love scenes. They are being very clever in the way Ivan is winning over Alex.
Lucrazya and MP fighting over Camilo is hilarious. Poor Camilo. I laughed out loud when MP made fun of Lucrazya and called her menopausal.
The recap was wonderful and snarkilicious! Excellent.
I have just been cracking up reading the comments. Julia, you are hilarious. :) I had to compare in my mind the high cheese factor in this love scene, to the giggly fun love scene in CME last night. I preferred the one in CME, but I loved the scenary in this one. That beach house is amazing! I also really enjoyed the Ivan-Alex love scenes. They are being very clever in the way Ivan is winning over Alex.
Lucrazya and MP fighting over Camilo is hilarious. Poor Camilo. I laughed out loud when MP made fun of Lucrazya and called her menopausal.
I thought you would enjoy this, el guapisímo, Fernando Colunga in María Mercedes, 1993. You've come a long way baby.
He is dancing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48E8m2xjMuw
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He is dancing.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48E8m2xjMuw
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Permalink posted by : Wednesday, October 12, 2011 at 11:42:00 AM EDT
: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 at 11:42:00 AM EDT
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