Wednesday, November 16, 2011
La Fuerza del Destino #71 Tue 11/15/11
Camilo complains to his mom that he doesn't feel any passion or love coming from Lucia. She tells him that it's normal since Lucia loved Ivan so much. He thinks that it's time she forgot Ivan since he married her and accepted her daughter as his own. If Ivan comes to claim them both he will not allow it. Celia reminds him that Ivan is married, but he tells her that Ivan could always get divorced.
David has invited Berenice out for lunch. He tells her that he has now been named director of the company of the McGuire's in the Mexican division. Now that he has a better position he asks her to be his girlfriend. She excepts of course. Cute.
Celia prayers to Guadalupe to protect Carmen and Camilo. In walks Antolin with a long face. He tells her that every time he asks Carolina to marry him, she comes up with an excuse to turn him down. First it was Alex now it's not wanting to leave Gerardo alone. Celia thinks perhaps Carolina doesn't care enough for him. She cares for me argues Antolin. Then what is it asks Celia? Her blindness replies Antolin. In that house, she knows all the nooks and crannies. Perhaps she fears leaving her comfort zone. It can also be her shame of people asking what that man is doing with that blind girl? But I don't care. She also doesn't want to get operated again. The doctor said that this time around the surgery would probably work, but she doesn't want to. I don't understand. Celia prays to Guadalupe for Antolin too.
Camilo the stud comes to bed. Lucia tells him no. He smells of beer and she's tired. (silly girl NEVER turn that away) Anyway he tells her you are always tired. You always have an excuse. I am your husband and you need to respond to me. Lucia fires back that she never realized that making love was an obligation. Camilo says it isn't. But I thought you loved me. Now I see that you don't. He turns to leave and Lucia calls him back. She tells him she does care for him. She's grateful for all he's done for her. He tells her he doesn't want her appreciation. He wants her love. So she kisses him and gives him what she can. Men can be so easily fooled. Or Camilo anyway.
Tony tells Bruno that he is sad. He had hoped that Ivan and Lucia would one day get back together. How is he going to tell Ivan about Camilo and Lucia?
It's the next day and Lucia's feeding Pearlita while Camilo is getting ready for work. He tells her that he wants Gerardo to build a small house for them on his ranch and asks her if she's in agreement. She agrees. He kisses her goodbye and tells her he loves her. Does he ever notice she never says it back?
Carolina and Gerardo are having breakfast and talking about his latest job. He asks her if she's seen Antolin recently. She tells him he came by and has asked her to marry him. She hurriedly tells him that she doesn't want to leave the house and leave him alone. Gerardo tells her that if Antolin loves her she needs to accept him. She needs to make her own life. Carolina says she's use to living there with him. Gerardo tells her that he is not her father or her brother. Your going to get to know another life next to the man you love. I know replies Carolina. But I don't want to leave you. Gerardo tells her that he can take care of himself. He's not an invalid. He begs her to think of herself. He can die tomorrow. Antolin is a great guy with a good job. Accept him and be happy. Don't worry about me. He asks if Alex has called. No replies Carolina. Perhaps the beach doesn't have a good signal.
Ivan and Alex are on a boat looking at seals and having fun. I'm yelling at the t.v. for Ivan to take off his shirt and he finally listens. YEAH!!!!
Carlota and Lucrecia are talking about Lucia and Camilo practically non-existent intimacy. Carlota is worried about what Ivan will do once he finds out. Lucrecia says he will just have to suck it up.
Tony finally gets a hold of Ivan. He tells him that he put David in charge. Ivan asks why Camilo resigned. Tony says to pay more attention to his own ranch. Ivan asks if he saw Lucia. Tony reminds him that they agreed not to mention her. They ring off and he and Alex go snorkeling. Great father/son bonding.
Berenice tells Lucia that she and David are finally novios. She asks Lucia how things are going with Camilo. Lucia says good, but she can't forget Ivan. Berenice tells her she needs to get into her head that Camilo is a good, handsome and loving man who she will have a wonderful life with if she will just give it a chance.
JJ pays Tony a visit. He thanks Tony for giving David the position. Tony tells him that David deserved it. JJ of course says that David took after him. JJ asks if Ivan will be coming. Tony tells him that there will be no need.
Camilo tells David if he has any questions to give him a call anytime. David hopes that they can still get together not only for work but as friends. Camilo is okay with that and they hug.
Celia pays Carolina a visit.
Tony pays Carlota a visit. Carlota asks Tony if he's going to tell Ivan about Camilo and Lucia getting married. He tells her he honestly doesn't know. Tony asks her if Lucia's baby is Ivan's?
Antolin asks JJ for a loan. What for asks JJ? I need to Carolina to an eye doctor for surgery. JJ asks what up with him and the blind girl? Antolin tells him he doesn't like anyone calling her that. Fine, replies JJ. What business do you have with her asks JJ? She's my girlfriend. JJ tells him that business is not good and he doesn't have the funds. Antolin threatens him and tells him to find the funds.
Celia tells Carolina that Antolin doesn't care that she can't see. Carolina tells her that she knows that Antolin is very handsome and can get any woman much better then her. Celia tells her that she's beautiful. She looks like a doll. Carolina thinks in time he will regret it. Celia says she knows her son and that wouldn't happen. He told her that she suffered greatly with the last surgery. But give it another chance. And if it doesn't work asks Carolina? And if it does asks Celia? We don't know God's plans. You could see the sky, flowers, colors even people again. Any sacrifice is worth it. And I don't say that for my son but for you.
Tony asks Carlota again if the baby is Ivan's. Carlota says she doesn't know what to tell him. If the baby belongs to Ivan, what good would it do for him to know? He has his own woman. He slept with her. That means he forgot about Lucia. He only did it once. Is that what he told you asks Carlota? And you believed him? Yes, I did replies Tony. All men are pigs yells out Carlota. Tony says he never cheated on his wife. Perhaps your husband did and that's why you say those things replies Tony. It was only once says Carlota. With Alicia's mother. But he repented and asked me for forgiveness. And after that he always respected me. So why don't you think that the same thing could have happened to Ivan asks Tony? I only think about the suffering that my granddaughter went through replies Carlota. That's why I advised her to marry Camilo in hopes that she would fall in love with him. But unfortunately things didn't happened like they did for me. Every case is different replies Tony. Ivan and Lucia loved each other deeply. If Ivan renounced that love it was for his son. So the story repeated itself with one small difference. Because the child is Ivan's. Carlota tries to deny it, but Tony is to smart. He tells her he took count of the baby's age. Well there is nothing to do. That story has ended. Tony tells her that destiny may change that.
Lucia opens her box of mementos. The flower that Ivan gave her when they first met again in the restaurant and the engagement ring he gave her. She cries.
Maripaz is arguing on the phone with Bob. She wants to see him. She threatens to tell his wife if they do not see each other today. He agrees.
Carlota tells Lucia that Tony finally left. She says that Tony figured out that Pearlita is Ivan's child. She didn't confirm anything, but Tony did the numbers. She doesn't think that at the moment he's going to tell Ivan about the marriage so Lucia needs to concentrate on getting her heart in the right place and working things out. Lucia says that's what she's trying to do.
Tony tells Benito to follow Maripaz today. And take his camera.
We see Benito following Maripaz out of the spa and down to the garage.
Carolina is on the phone with Alex. The doorbell rings. It's Antolin with flowers. He asks if she's still mad at him. Of course not replies Carolina. Especially now that I talked to Alex. She sits him down and tells him that his mom came by for a visit. Antolin says probably to complain about me. No. A mother never talks bad about their child. Last week when she came for a visit, I liked her. Now I adore her. Your really lucky to have a mother like her. Yes, I lucked out with her replies Antolin. So what do you guys talk about? A lot of things replies Carolina. I have made a decision. I am going to have that operation.
Maripaz is in a hotel and Benito is following taking pictures. He sees her going to a door304. Takes a picture of it and waits. Sees a gentlemen come from the elevator and go down the hallway. He waits a second and sees Maripaz come out of the room and kiss the guy in the hallway. Benito takes a picture. GOTCHA!!!!
Maripaz and Bob go at it.
Celia goes to the school where supposedly Carmen does. Finds out after the first couple of classes she no longer attends. BUSTED!!!!
Bob tells Maripaz that this little affair can't go on much longer. If the wife finds out and tells her dad, he will get fired. Maripaz says she doesn't want to marry him. She just wants some loving once in a while. He tells her it's over. She gets mad. She's lonely. He doesn't care and leaves. Benito is still waiting. Then finally he leaves via the stairwell.
Maripaz comes home pissed. Tony wonders what's up. Maripaz calls Juliet but doesn't say anything. Calls again. Juliet hangs up again. Then realizes it Maripaz.
Benito tells Tony everything and the photos he took. Tony tells him to have them printed off tomorrow. Benito wants to follow her again, but Tony says there is no need anymore.
Tomorrow: Truths are revealed.
David has invited Berenice out for lunch. He tells her that he has now been named director of the company of the McGuire's in the Mexican division. Now that he has a better position he asks her to be his girlfriend. She excepts of course. Cute.
Celia prayers to Guadalupe to protect Carmen and Camilo. In walks Antolin with a long face. He tells her that every time he asks Carolina to marry him, she comes up with an excuse to turn him down. First it was Alex now it's not wanting to leave Gerardo alone. Celia thinks perhaps Carolina doesn't care enough for him. She cares for me argues Antolin. Then what is it asks Celia? Her blindness replies Antolin. In that house, she knows all the nooks and crannies. Perhaps she fears leaving her comfort zone. It can also be her shame of people asking what that man is doing with that blind girl? But I don't care. She also doesn't want to get operated again. The doctor said that this time around the surgery would probably work, but she doesn't want to. I don't understand. Celia prays to Guadalupe for Antolin too.
Camilo the stud comes to bed. Lucia tells him no. He smells of beer and she's tired. (silly girl NEVER turn that away) Anyway he tells her you are always tired. You always have an excuse. I am your husband and you need to respond to me. Lucia fires back that she never realized that making love was an obligation. Camilo says it isn't. But I thought you loved me. Now I see that you don't. He turns to leave and Lucia calls him back. She tells him she does care for him. She's grateful for all he's done for her. He tells her he doesn't want her appreciation. He wants her love. So she kisses him and gives him what she can. Men can be so easily fooled. Or Camilo anyway.
Tony tells Bruno that he is sad. He had hoped that Ivan and Lucia would one day get back together. How is he going to tell Ivan about Camilo and Lucia?
It's the next day and Lucia's feeding Pearlita while Camilo is getting ready for work. He tells her that he wants Gerardo to build a small house for them on his ranch and asks her if she's in agreement. She agrees. He kisses her goodbye and tells her he loves her. Does he ever notice she never says it back?
Carolina and Gerardo are having breakfast and talking about his latest job. He asks her if she's seen Antolin recently. She tells him he came by and has asked her to marry him. She hurriedly tells him that she doesn't want to leave the house and leave him alone. Gerardo tells her that if Antolin loves her she needs to accept him. She needs to make her own life. Carolina says she's use to living there with him. Gerardo tells her that he is not her father or her brother. Your going to get to know another life next to the man you love. I know replies Carolina. But I don't want to leave you. Gerardo tells her that he can take care of himself. He's not an invalid. He begs her to think of herself. He can die tomorrow. Antolin is a great guy with a good job. Accept him and be happy. Don't worry about me. He asks if Alex has called. No replies Carolina. Perhaps the beach doesn't have a good signal.
Ivan and Alex are on a boat looking at seals and having fun. I'm yelling at the t.v. for Ivan to take off his shirt and he finally listens. YEAH!!!!
Carlota and Lucrecia are talking about Lucia and Camilo practically non-existent intimacy. Carlota is worried about what Ivan will do once he finds out. Lucrecia says he will just have to suck it up.
Tony finally gets a hold of Ivan. He tells him that he put David in charge. Ivan asks why Camilo resigned. Tony says to pay more attention to his own ranch. Ivan asks if he saw Lucia. Tony reminds him that they agreed not to mention her. They ring off and he and Alex go snorkeling. Great father/son bonding.
Berenice tells Lucia that she and David are finally novios. She asks Lucia how things are going with Camilo. Lucia says good, but she can't forget Ivan. Berenice tells her she needs to get into her head that Camilo is a good, handsome and loving man who she will have a wonderful life with if she will just give it a chance.
JJ pays Tony a visit. He thanks Tony for giving David the position. Tony tells him that David deserved it. JJ of course says that David took after him. JJ asks if Ivan will be coming. Tony tells him that there will be no need.
Camilo tells David if he has any questions to give him a call anytime. David hopes that they can still get together not only for work but as friends. Camilo is okay with that and they hug.
Celia pays Carolina a visit.
Tony pays Carlota a visit. Carlota asks Tony if he's going to tell Ivan about Camilo and Lucia getting married. He tells her he honestly doesn't know. Tony asks her if Lucia's baby is Ivan's?
Antolin asks JJ for a loan. What for asks JJ? I need to Carolina to an eye doctor for surgery. JJ asks what up with him and the blind girl? Antolin tells him he doesn't like anyone calling her that. Fine, replies JJ. What business do you have with her asks JJ? She's my girlfriend. JJ tells him that business is not good and he doesn't have the funds. Antolin threatens him and tells him to find the funds.
Celia tells Carolina that Antolin doesn't care that she can't see. Carolina tells her that she knows that Antolin is very handsome and can get any woman much better then her. Celia tells her that she's beautiful. She looks like a doll. Carolina thinks in time he will regret it. Celia says she knows her son and that wouldn't happen. He told her that she suffered greatly with the last surgery. But give it another chance. And if it doesn't work asks Carolina? And if it does asks Celia? We don't know God's plans. You could see the sky, flowers, colors even people again. Any sacrifice is worth it. And I don't say that for my son but for you.
Tony asks Carlota again if the baby is Ivan's. Carlota says she doesn't know what to tell him. If the baby belongs to Ivan, what good would it do for him to know? He has his own woman. He slept with her. That means he forgot about Lucia. He only did it once. Is that what he told you asks Carlota? And you believed him? Yes, I did replies Tony. All men are pigs yells out Carlota. Tony says he never cheated on his wife. Perhaps your husband did and that's why you say those things replies Tony. It was only once says Carlota. With Alicia's mother. But he repented and asked me for forgiveness. And after that he always respected me. So why don't you think that the same thing could have happened to Ivan asks Tony? I only think about the suffering that my granddaughter went through replies Carlota. That's why I advised her to marry Camilo in hopes that she would fall in love with him. But unfortunately things didn't happened like they did for me. Every case is different replies Tony. Ivan and Lucia loved each other deeply. If Ivan renounced that love it was for his son. So the story repeated itself with one small difference. Because the child is Ivan's. Carlota tries to deny it, but Tony is to smart. He tells her he took count of the baby's age. Well there is nothing to do. That story has ended. Tony tells her that destiny may change that.
Lucia opens her box of mementos. The flower that Ivan gave her when they first met again in the restaurant and the engagement ring he gave her. She cries.
Maripaz is arguing on the phone with Bob. She wants to see him. She threatens to tell his wife if they do not see each other today. He agrees.
Carlota tells Lucia that Tony finally left. She says that Tony figured out that Pearlita is Ivan's child. She didn't confirm anything, but Tony did the numbers. She doesn't think that at the moment he's going to tell Ivan about the marriage so Lucia needs to concentrate on getting her heart in the right place and working things out. Lucia says that's what she's trying to do.
Tony tells Benito to follow Maripaz today. And take his camera.
We see Benito following Maripaz out of the spa and down to the garage.
Carolina is on the phone with Alex. The doorbell rings. It's Antolin with flowers. He asks if she's still mad at him. Of course not replies Carolina. Especially now that I talked to Alex. She sits him down and tells him that his mom came by for a visit. Antolin says probably to complain about me. No. A mother never talks bad about their child. Last week when she came for a visit, I liked her. Now I adore her. Your really lucky to have a mother like her. Yes, I lucked out with her replies Antolin. So what do you guys talk about? A lot of things replies Carolina. I have made a decision. I am going to have that operation.
Maripaz is in a hotel and Benito is following taking pictures. He sees her going to a door304. Takes a picture of it and waits. Sees a gentlemen come from the elevator and go down the hallway. He waits a second and sees Maripaz come out of the room and kiss the guy in the hallway. Benito takes a picture. GOTCHA!!!!
Maripaz and Bob go at it.
Celia goes to the school where supposedly Carmen does. Finds out after the first couple of classes she no longer attends. BUSTED!!!!
Bob tells Maripaz that this little affair can't go on much longer. If the wife finds out and tells her dad, he will get fired. Maripaz says she doesn't want to marry him. She just wants some loving once in a while. He tells her it's over. She gets mad. She's lonely. He doesn't care and leaves. Benito is still waiting. Then finally he leaves via the stairwell.
Maripaz comes home pissed. Tony wonders what's up. Maripaz calls Juliet but doesn't say anything. Calls again. Juliet hangs up again. Then realizes it Maripaz.
Benito tells Tony everything and the photos he took. Tony tells him to have them printed off tomorrow. Benito wants to follow her again, but Tony says there is no need anymore.
Tomorrow: Truths are revealed.
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Thanks, Gloria. Telenovela crossover alert : I was watching the new show ''Pan Am'' on Sunday and was surprised to see the guy who played Mariano on Teresa. He looked very guaypo with his short, cleancut 60s haircut , and he speaks English very well. What a surprise.
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: Wednesday, November 16, 2011 at 6:42:00 AM EST
: Wednesday, November 16, 2011 at 6:42:00 AM EST
Gracias, Gloria, for posting this so early. I got quite a surprise to find out that I get another double header tonight.
Benito really enjoyed his brief stint as a private I and he did it very cleverly. The one thing I would have suggested he do differently is to wear a suit. The plaid shirt sticks out too much.
Camilo goes in and out of denial about Lucia, as does Carlota.
At least Arcelia isn't in denial about Carmen.
Benito really enjoyed his brief stint as a private I and he did it very cleverly. The one thing I would have suggested he do differently is to wear a suit. The plaid shirt sticks out too much.
Camilo goes in and out of denial about Lucia, as does Carlota.
At least Arcelia isn't in denial about Carmen.
Gloria- I've tagged it.
It's good to read one of your wonderfully detailed recaps.
All I kept thinking last night was that Celia is a wonderful mom. She puts her childrens' happiness first. She listens, gives good advice, tries not to judge, and supports them. She also scolds when needed. (Lucrezia could learn a lot.) She really doesn't deserve the problem children she has.
It does seem that Anto is walking the straight and norrow a lot more theses days. Even though it's working with JJ, it's still a legit job. He's such a good man; there's real hope for a good life there. I like how, even in his anger, he knew the real reasons Caro is hesitating to marry him. I'm hoping for the best for these two. They're my favorite couple (even though they have both done things that have angered me individuallly).
Yay! Ivan has the amunition to divorce MP! Will Tony tell him about Lucia, Camilo and Perla? How can he keep it a secret?
It's good to read one of your wonderfully detailed recaps.
All I kept thinking last night was that Celia is a wonderful mom. She puts her childrens' happiness first. She listens, gives good advice, tries not to judge, and supports them. She also scolds when needed. (Lucrezia could learn a lot.) She really doesn't deserve the problem children she has.
It does seem that Anto is walking the straight and norrow a lot more theses days. Even though it's working with JJ, it's still a legit job. He's such a good man; there's real hope for a good life there. I like how, even in his anger, he knew the real reasons Caro is hesitating to marry him. I'm hoping for the best for these two. They're my favorite couple (even though they have both done things that have angered me individuallly).
Yay! Ivan has the amunition to divorce MP! Will Tony tell him about Lucia, Camilo and Perla? How can he keep it a secret?
Even though I was initially disappointed that Ivan didn't end up going to Alamos with Alex, seeing how much Alex was enjoying his vacation on the boat, and how at peace he was, showed me that was probably the best move. Althugh it would have been nice for him to see Caro and Gerry, there would have been too much other drama going on to make it an enjoyable trip for Alex. This time was best spent just chilling with Ivan and enjoying being a kid.
Good luck with the double header tonight Urban! They keep throwing these at you, don't they?
Good luck with the double header tonight Urban! They keep throwing these at you, don't they?
It's my second one, but it's consecutive, which is a bit much. I got a head start last night by watching the first hour online just in case I have DVR grief again. Since I have an appointment at the bank tomorrow morning tonight's recap will probably not have as much translated script as usual.
I suspect they want to wind this one up before the first of the year so we can probably expect a few more double headers before the finale.
I suspect they want to wind this one up before the first of the year so we can probably expect a few more double headers before the finale.
I just checked a calendar. We have about 30 lunes-viernes broadcast days left before New Year's (assuming that there will be no episodes on Thanksgiving or the day after). If we have more pre-emptions that means at least one or two more double-headers.
I believe the actor who played Mariano is half American and spent a good bit of time in the US. I will have to check out that episode online.
Carmen needs to have her butt kicked. Her new clothes don't look any better than the old ones. I don't have time for thieves.
Carmen needs to have her butt kicked. Her new clothes don't look any better than the old ones. I don't have time for thieves.
Permalink posted by : Wednesday, November 16, 2011 at 9:35:00 AM EST
: Wednesday, November 16, 2011 at 9:35:00 AM EST
Susanlynn- Thanks for the tip on the "Mariano" spotting. Aaron Diaz has popped up in other US shows before I believe. I know there was some crazy movie on the SciFi channel that he was in. I hardly watch Engish speaking tv anymore (except the news and The Soup), but I do think ABC puts their shows online, so I will look this one up.
From Wikipedia: Aarón Díaz Spencer was born in Puerto Vallarta, Jalisco, Mexico to a Mexican father and an American mother and lived for several years in Palo Alto, California. He finished high school in Palo Alto, before returning to Mexico to study at the exclusive Televisa Acting School Centro de Educación Artística (CEA).
From Wikipedia: Aarón Díaz Spencer was born in Puerto Vallarta, Jalisco, Mexico to a Mexican father and an American mother and lived for several years in Palo Alto, California. He finished high school in Palo Alto, before returning to Mexico to study at the exclusive Televisa Acting School Centro de Educación Artística (CEA).
Just watched this online since I fell asleep last night.
YAY for a breastfeeding scene. Nice to see they don't have the hangups American culture has regarding this.
UGH. Camilo is starting to annoy and disgust me. He's pushing Lucia too hard and too fast. She might have postpartum depression and all he can think about are his needs. "It's been 3 months." I know when I had my children in both cases it took me closer to a year to feel ready for that. My poor DH. Even if they are married him forcing her into that is almost abusive. Or it could just be me, since I am squarely on Team Ivan (Camilo does nothing for me).
Speaking of which, shirtless Ivan on the boat . . . YUMMMY. Wish I could be on that boat.
Gerry's conversation with Carolina worried me. Are they foreshadowing something with him? He's a weakling, but I like him.
YAY for a breastfeeding scene. Nice to see they don't have the hangups American culture has regarding this.
UGH. Camilo is starting to annoy and disgust me. He's pushing Lucia too hard and too fast. She might have postpartum depression and all he can think about are his needs. "It's been 3 months." I know when I had my children in both cases it took me closer to a year to feel ready for that. My poor DH. Even if they are married him forcing her into that is almost abusive. Or it could just be me, since I am squarely on Team Ivan (Camilo does nothing for me).
Speaking of which, shirtless Ivan on the boat . . . YUMMMY. Wish I could be on that boat.
Gerry's conversation with Carolina worried me. Are they foreshadowing something with him? He's a weakling, but I like him.
Gloria, thanks so much for your great recap. I'm glad you are feeling better!
Susanlynn - thanks for the heads up on Aaron Diaz.
Well it looks like Ivan finally has his get out of jail card. Imagine the shock he'll get when he finds out everything that went down. I hope Tony finally tells him about all the crap MP has done to Alex so he'll get her out of that house muy pronto.
Best wishes with your second double header UA!
Susanlynn - thanks for the heads up on Aaron Diaz.
Well it looks like Ivan finally has his get out of jail card. Imagine the shock he'll get when he finds out everything that went down. I hope Tony finally tells him about all the crap MP has done to Alex so he'll get her out of that house muy pronto.
Best wishes with your second double header UA!
Gloria, thanks so much. You do great work.
Camilo is grating on my nerves. In the first place, haven't they snoozled several times just in the last few days? In the second, Lucia seems depressed and is almost certainly very tired and possibly out of sorts hormonally. And yet he comes home late reeking of beer, wakes her up (well, she wasn't really asleep, but he didn't know that) and expects enthusiastic passion?! QTH. Here's a hint, Camilo: if you want your wife to be more affectionate toward you, whining and yelling at her is not a good strategy. Is seduction a lost art? Also, has he never noticed that Lucia isn't enthusiastic about anything, ever?
Benito was great as a spy. He looked like he was having fun, too. I'm looking forward to the big confrontation with his photos.
Camilo is grating on my nerves. In the first place, haven't they snoozled several times just in the last few days? In the second, Lucia seems depressed and is almost certainly very tired and possibly out of sorts hormonally. And yet he comes home late reeking of beer, wakes her up (well, she wasn't really asleep, but he didn't know that) and expects enthusiastic passion?! QTH. Here's a hint, Camilo: if you want your wife to be more affectionate toward you, whining and yelling at her is not a good strategy. Is seduction a lost art? Also, has he never noticed that Lucia isn't enthusiastic about anything, ever?
Benito was great as a spy. He looked like he was having fun, too. I'm looking forward to the big confrontation with his photos.
I agree that Camilo was way too pushy with Lucia. His insecurities are showing, but he has every reason to be insecure. She doesn't love him and she's not attracted to him. There's kind of nowhere to go from there. They both just need to admit that their marriage is a lost cause.
I also wondered if Lucia is depressed-- a combination of all the crap that's gone down in her life, and the hormonal changes after having a baby.
I also wondered if Lucia is depressed-- a combination of all the crap that's gone down in her life, and the hormonal changes after having a baby.
Here is a photo of FC from the play Manos quietas.
if it shows all 21 photos, it's #5
http://www.peopleenespanol.com/gallery/mini-montijo-en-camino?slide=2?slide=endscreen#450761_450586
It looks like it's going to come back to Miami for another wk due to popular demand.
Benito is quite the gumshoe & I think he enjoyed it. I was surprised they didn't drag out the cheating PI thing. MP & amante really are stupid, they know Tony hired a PI once, so why wouldn't he do it again.
Lucero is making a TN with Jaime Camil
http://www.peopleenespanol.com/article/lucero-comienza-grabar-por-ella-soy-eva?xid=pespdaily11162011
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if it shows all 21 photos, it's #5
http://www.peopleenespanol.com/gallery/mini-montijo-en-camino?slide=2?slide=endscreen#450761_450586
It looks like it's going to come back to Miami for another wk due to popular demand.
Benito is quite the gumshoe & I think he enjoyed it. I was surprised they didn't drag out the cheating PI thing. MP & amante really are stupid, they know Tony hired a PI once, so why wouldn't he do it again.
Lucero is making a TN with Jaime Camil
http://www.peopleenespanol.com/article/lucero-comienza-grabar-por-ella-soy-eva?xid=pespdaily11162011
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Permalink posted by : Wednesday, November 16, 2011 at 1:50:00 PM EST
: Wednesday, November 16, 2011 at 1:50:00 PM EST
Check the schedules because I think there's a double header tonight.
Not sure what MP hoped to accomplish with the crank calls to Juliet. It was very high school except that in high school there was no such thing as caller id. Times were simpler then and crank calls were easier.
Not sure how the affair helps Ivan. California is a no fault state for divorces (you don't need a reason) and I doubt that would matter with custody. Then again, this is a novela so of course it matters.
Kelly
Not sure what MP hoped to accomplish with the crank calls to Juliet. It was very high school except that in high school there was no such thing as caller id. Times were simpler then and crank calls were easier.
Not sure how the affair helps Ivan. California is a no fault state for divorces (you don't need a reason) and I doubt that would matter with custody. Then again, this is a novela so of course it matters.
Kelly
Permalink posted by : Wednesday, November 16, 2011 at 2:45:00 PM EST
: Wednesday, November 16, 2011 at 2:45:00 PM EST
I just watched Pan Am, Aaron Diaz looked a lot better than he did in Teresa. I hated his pompadour, He hair is much shorter & looks better.
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Permalink posted by : Wednesday, November 16, 2011 at 2:46:00 PM EST
: Wednesday, November 16, 2011 at 2:46:00 PM EST
The existence of no-fault divorce doesn't mean that you can't divorce for traditional reasons. NF is primarily for people who aren't married very long, have no major joint assets, and no children. Ivan has major $$$, a son to protect, and a stolen future to recover. No divorce court judge in the real US wouldn't give Ivan exactly what he would ask for when the facts are entered.
I might just take a brief siesta before tonight's double header.
I might just take a brief siesta before tonight's double header.
I agree, even if Ivan could get the divorce without any proof of MP's wrongdoing, evidence of her lifestyle might very well help him get a settlement more in his favor and full custody of Alex.
Okay, I guess I'm going to have to look up the Pan Am episode. If Aaron D. looked smoking hot even with a terrible greased pompadour, he's certainly welcome on my screen without it.
Okay, I guess I'm going to have to look up the Pan Am episode. If Aaron D. looked smoking hot even with a terrible greased pompadour, he's certainly welcome on my screen without it.
Kelly- I think MP hoped that Juliet would recognize the number so that she would jump to the conclusion that MP was calling for Bob, meaning they are having an affair. She wants Bob to be found out and kicked out of a marriage and job since he dumped her.
UA, you will be disappointed with Aaron's character in Pan Am.
FC has spoiled me for all others, except maybe Christian de la Fuentes.
Variopinta
FC has spoiled me for all others, except maybe Christian de la Fuentes.
Variopinta
Permalink posted by : Wednesday, November 16, 2011 at 3:30:00 PM EST
: Wednesday, November 16, 2011 at 3:30:00 PM EST
Vivi, thanks for clearing that up on MP and the crank calling; I was scratching my head on that one as well--I was thinking how mighty stupid of her to call the house but never thought she was doing so that Bob can get into trouble -- what a ?itch???
I was trying to give Camilo a free pass last week when he was all attentive; but guilting a woman into doing it with you is a new low. Lucia is clearly depressed and it would be something different if the writers address the postpartum issue.
Antolin and Carolina are my favorite couple; Ivan and Alex look wonderful as father and son.
Thank you Gloria for a wonderful recap.
Myo-
I was trying to give Camilo a free pass last week when he was all attentive; but guilting a woman into doing it with you is a new low. Lucia is clearly depressed and it would be something different if the writers address the postpartum issue.
Antolin and Carolina are my favorite couple; Ivan and Alex look wonderful as father and son.
Thank you Gloria for a wonderful recap.
Myo-
Well at least MP has a plan with her crank calls, even if it's not fully thought out. As long as she's not around Alex.
Kelly
Kelly
Permalink posted by : Wednesday, November 16, 2011 at 3:52:00 PM EST
: Wednesday, November 16, 2011 at 3:52:00 PM EST
So let's say Juliet knows that MP is making the crank calls. Will she show up at McGuire Inc to drop the dime on her?
Permalink posted by : Wednesday, November 16, 2011 at 4:47:00 PM EST
: Wednesday, November 16, 2011 at 4:47:00 PM EST
Maybe Anon207. But they already have the goods on MP with those pics. It's more likely that they can help her by giving her copies of the pics to use in HER divorce. Benito also said he followed Bob and got his plate numbers, so Tony will know soon enough who he is.
Gloria, glad to see you back in action. I was worried about your headache situation. You are such a valued member of the Caray Caray family. I don't always comment, but that doesn't mean I don't value the contributions of all the talented & generous recappers In fact, I've had to miss a number of episodes, but I can keep up by reading all the fabulous recaps. Thank you again and again.
Gloria this was great as usual! Thank you so much!
Thanks for the tip about Aaron Diaz. I watched the Pan Am episode on Demand. He looks terrific without greasy hair.
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Thanks for the tip about Aaron Diaz. I watched the Pan Am episode on Demand. He looks terrific without greasy hair.
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