Saturday, January 21, 2012
La Que No Podía Amar #15 Friday 1/20/12 Gorilla Chest Thumps in the Mexican Mist, Or, Sold!! To The Highest Bidder!!
As Viewerville adjusts its tv screens and slugs down another Jolt Cola to insure it does not doze off through another night of somewhat lack lustered torment, turbidity, and turmoil, it’s one nightmare after another for our newly maimed and aggrieved Michael. Tia Rosaura, thinking only of Numero Uno, begins wailing at him in his hospital bed about his certain future behind bars if those two pedestrian pedestrians he hit in the truck accident should die. At the same time, Mercedes screams with ostensible certitude, at David, anguished accusations of trying to off her brother, Gustavo, since he told Big Dave he knew about his ex-boss’s dirty business dealings. As Esteban looks on from the doorway, Big Dave swears he had nothing to do with Gus’s disappearance and tells Mercedes to kindly back off and leave or he’ll call security. (At least I think so, since, seemingly, everybody in this cast is eagerly trampling over everyone else’s lines of dialog!!)
Rogelio, meanwhile, is having morning coffee with Ana Paula and telling her that he may seem insensitive and harsh, but hey, it’ll be better for everybody, Michael in particular, if those two people he mowed down don’t survive. Why how he could say that, says our uber-caring Cupcake Nightingale! It’s important they survive! Well, explains practical RoHell, somebody’s going to have to support them if they live, meaning he’s sure they’ll be crippled somehow if they do. Why be forced to live only half-way? Heck, look at him! He’d have rather died than been tied to these four wheels these past seven years! No, how can he say such a thing considering all that is his??? Like what, for instance, he asks. He’s got the love of Maria, Cinthia, Bruno and all those who work for him. (Is she kidding? Well, minus the flogged few who still feel obliged to do RoHell’s bidding…..) Life could be so much nicer if he wanted it that way. Easy for you to say, replies RoHell. The only one who is qualified to opine is the one whose cross it is to bear. Anyway, you’ll see when your brother’s got to work his friggin’ tail off every day and then has to share his measly salary not to support your family, but somebody else’s!! Virtuous Cupcake Nightingale is certain her bro would still want them to be saved.
Rosie, speaking the truth for once in her life, admits to Mikey it doesn’t really matter whether the couple lives or dies, he’ll still have to settle the score with the courts—or, less delicately put, he'll be doing jail time. Mikey doesn’t want to be thought of as a murderer!!!
Esteban gets Mercedes to calm down and leave with him. They retreat to a coffee shop somewhere. He tells her that Gus came to see him a day or two before to discuss his suspicions and press charges. Yes, a desperate person could do just about anything; but with Big Dave and Gus, their differences could have easily been settled some other way than that. “--In fact, I was there in order to discuss it with David.” “--Well, thanks anyway…er…” “—Esteban.” Pearly whites glisten through his perpetual 3 day bearded over growth. (Looks like the start of a beeeuuuteeeful friendship and just what the doctor would order for our lovelorn lawyer: a lovely, virginal, damsel in distress!)
As for RoHell and AP, he’s telling her how much he appreciates her sticking to her guns when it comes to her opinions. She’s a woman with conviction! Whatever! She wants to speak with Big Dave and explain her brother’s true situation. “—Don’t worry! I’ve spoken with his boss and he’s agreed not to press charges.” Oh! Pau’s sooooo grateful! Paula unconsciously takes his hand as she thanks him, which immediately gets RoHell’s hormones hopping again.
Dani has returned to Don Federico’s to explain why she skipped out on work the day before and to beg for her job back. In between Dani’s anguished mouse squeaks of explanation, Ol’ Don Fed--the old marshmallow--realizes it was extenuating circumstances, and mildly scolds her for not bothering to at least give him a call. He gives her back her job.
Back at the hospital, Big Dave runs into RoHell and Pau. She gives Dave the evil eye and leaves. Dave winks at RoHell and says he now understands the reason for all the shenanigans. It’s all about that girl, isn’t it? RoHell doesn’t crack a smile; he simply admits it was a good idea they never told her or anyone that Mike was really on assignment and they need to make sure nobody ever finds out.
Meanwhile, Vanessa and Mama discuss the way RoHell has turned into such a control freak since his accident. Why hook up with a guy like that, anyway? Nessa says it’s only a matter of standing up to him. Nessa’s still young and beautiful, says Mama. She could still find a decent man to marry. Maybe she could go out of the country and find somebody. Vainessa says she knows what she’s doing, so just let it go already. No way she’d ever let Rogelio treat her the way he treats Sinthia!! Elsa isn’t so sure.
Elsewhere in the city, Sin tries out her new cell from Big Dave by calling her old squeeze, Efrain. Smarmy Effer tells her he knows where his place is—and it’s in her bed. She tells him not to go wasting his time with Consuela. His place is with her, fulfilling her every whim and desire—not running around with the kitchen help!! Effer says she’d better not be looking for a rich husband in the big city, either. She accuses him of being a bit jealous. If she finds out he’s still running around on her--. What could she do about it anyway? Cause a scandal? No need to. If anybody found out about the two of them, first off nobody’d believe him and secondly, RoHell would kill him! Click.
Maria walks in on Effer as he’s hanging up. That was La Patrona. There’s conversation about the fact that with all the money Rog has, he could live anywhere he wanted to. (Meaning Effer would be left in charge, we suppose.) She scolds him about his grandiose ideas ramrodding the hacienda someday cuz RoHell is sure not to ever leave his hacienda. “—If you know what’s good for you [mas te vale] you’ll get this place exactly the way he likes it or you, better than anyone, know how he’ll get!” That melts the sweaty smirk off Effer’s face like butter on a hot fry pan. He turns and saunters out of the room and back to work.
At the hospital again, Bruno advises Paula about getting too sure of herself with Rogelio. The guy can be a real charmer when he wants to, but he still is used to getting his way!! She seems to think he’s changed and softened a bit with her. Naw, she’s just one more person in debt up to her eyeballs with him, he says. He suddenly asks her just how far she’d be willing to sacrifice herself in helping her family out. She answers she’d do anything less sacrificing her self-respect [dignidad]. He says he understands that, but what about her happiness, her heart, aka, love. Would she marry without love? Dimples is saucer-eyed impactada that Bruno would dare to mention such a thing!
Later that day, Esteban shows up at Nessa’s parents’ house. He catches her mackin’ on RoHell in his little red 4-wheeler. “—Now I understand why you want to divorce me!”
Dimples tells Bruno that she’d never marry except for love! “--You’re waiting for Gustavo, right?” Yes and she hopes he returns soon, safe and sound. Well, if that’s who she wants, then he’ll support her anyway he can--he says. He doesn’t want to see her suffer so. (I’m not sure I heard the rest of this conversation correctly. Feel free to correct me.) However, the fact he’s not there for her right now, and that Bruno is, should make her change her way of thinking.
Back at Nessa’s, she reminds Esteban she’s been waiting for him to sign the darned divorce papers! How long ago was the last time she told him she loved him anyway? Esteban turns to stare down at RoHell. “—So I finally meet the infamous Rogelio Montero the ever-present shadow over our marriage. If she left you once how can you be so sure she won’t leave you again?” “—Well, that’s your opinion. If she’s with me, must be she’s sorry she left me and sorry that she married you!” Esteban sneers at Nessa, then back at RoHell.
Dani comes back to the hospital to check on Mikey. Mikey is pretty bitter, considering the rotten bowl of cherries Life’s delivered to his doorstep. Well, at least she’s got her job back. FF>>
The pissing contest continues at Nessa's. Esteban gripes at Vainessa. “—We could have been happy but you never stopped wondering what it would have been like for you if you’d stayed with him!” “—Well, now she’s going to find out!” “—You won’t be able to put up with this!! She’ll get tired of your paralysis.” Rogelio just smirks back. “--That’s our business and nobody else’s.” Steve wants to know how long she’s been cheating on him. Nessa tells him he’s made her life Hell. So who cares how long? Ok. He’ll sign the papers, he tells her. He looks down and points to his privates. He looks over at Rogelio. “—Be careful. If she does this to me, a whole man, then who knows what she’ll do to you?” Zingo!!! Point made and taken. (Viewerville chalks up ten for Team Esteban.) He washes his hands of Vainessa and storms off.
Back at Hacienda Hell Fuerte, little Margarito lets the cat out of the bag about Effer’s riding Sinthia’s horse, Paloma. Maria shoos him and Connie off before ripping into Effer about respecting the owner’s personal property, especially his fine horses. Nobody there, not even Bruno, can ride his top horseflesh. That’s what the rest of the stable is for. He’d better get it straight that there’s only one man there that gives orders and it isn’t Effer! Get with the program or she’ll make sure herself he’s ridden out on a rail.
Rosie runs into Mikey’s hospital room awash in real tears. She tells Pau and him that the two people he ran over have died. Whatever are we going to do now? (Well, we know what Mikey will be doing for the next veinte or so years, that’s for sure.)
Mercedes stops Bruno in the hallway and introduces herself. The tricky bastard says he knows who she is because his girlfriend, Paula, told him. She asks if he realizes Paula’s dating her brother also. Sure, but he doesn’t care. Mercedes’ lower jaw hits the floor. Bruno continues to play long and loose with the truth. He tells her he plans on marrying Pau ASAP and well, they’ve always been truthful with each other. She knows how much he loves her and what he’s willing to do to keep her. He’s mature enough to manage the situation. The only one who apparently isn’t is her brother!
At breakfast, Sinthia gets a phone call from David with the phone that, as BroHellio learns, David gave her just so they could keep in touch. Big Dave has news for him: the couple who were run over died. RoHell is happy as a pig in a puddle cuz that means AP will have another reason to owe him. He smiles cockily. “—Luck is on my side!”
Pau tearfully asks Bruno what she’s to do now that the couple has died. He explains they’ll have to help pay burial expenses and probably an additional amount of money. Not to worry! He’ll be there for her! “--You have to remain strong now for your brother’s sake.”
Gus, meanwhile, is stumbling all bloody and half-conscious through the woods out in the boonies. He faints and falls to the ground.
AP tries speaking with Mersnottys about her concern for Gus but Mersnottys would rather spit in her face and accuses her of being a slut. AP tries giving her side of the story about Bruno’s brash liplocking session, and she swears she’s only in love with Gus. Mersnottys won’t listen to her. She curses the day Paula ever crossed her brother’s path and calls her a gold-digger. (Give it up, Pau.) It’s obvious she prefers the other guy to her brother and when he finally gets back she plans on telling him what kind of a slut AP truly is! Dimples is muy, but muy, dismayed.
Pau goes back in to check on Mikey and gives him a much needed pep talk. Remember our mother. Don’t give up! She never did! (Yeah, but she died anyway. Bad example. I guess the B team of writers took over this part of the script.) You’re still going away to work for that Montero guy, tho! Pau gives up and leaves. The doc walks in and Viewerville awaits the unwrapping of Mikey’s detached and re-attached digits. Mikey freaks when he can’t seem to feel or move his fingers. The doctor looks on, his brows knit above his coke-bottle lenses, muy but muy concerned.
Back at Boca Del Cielo, the fishermen realize that Gus isn’t coming and that the construction is continuing. They begin to riot.
Pau prays in the small chapel for her brother’s health and Gus’s return as he continues to drag himself through the boonies towards civilization. FF>>
The doctor tells Rosie that this is normal and Mikey will have to undergo (yes, Rosie) expensive therapy for about a year to get the use of his fingers back. Rosie lays another guilt trip on her nephew. “Hmph, that’s all we needed.” Mikey wonders why this is all happening to him of all people. The doc wants him to get out of bed and start moving around. He’s got no reason to loll in bed all day anymore.
Mersnotty’s and her friend share concern for her missing brother. Posters and photos will be on tv 24/7 starting tomorrow. Blonde Friend hugs her and leaves. Next, Love-sick Doctor Friend comes out to give her a bit of support. He’s put Gus's photo on the internet. It’s going viral. She thanks him for his help and races off to her office. (Viewerville’s diagnosis: a case of unrequited love if ever there was one……..)
Pau tries speaking to the relatives of the now deceased couple, but they are in no mood to make nice. (Viewerville can’t really blame them.) Mikey has followed the doc’s advice and walked into the waiting room. Pau is arguing with one of the dead victims’ family members. Mikey tries defending his sister but he and the husband of the woman who died get into an even louder shouting match. What does it matter who’s to blame? His sister’s kids are left without their mother, the man says! Who’s going to help take care of them now, eh? (Viewerville does a double take at the 6’6” security guard standing in the middle of them like they’re on the set of some Mexican-style Jerry Springer show.)
Gus’s replacement freaks and calls Big Dave to ask what to do next about the rioting fishermen. Dave tells him to handle it or else! He slams the phone down, obviously suffering from Excedrin headache # 69. Sin shows up looking to play hookie with him but Dave begs off because of problems with his project. She says maybe he can call her once he’s not busy. He suddenly changes his mind and asks her not to go.
Apparently, Rogelio ordered Bruno to pay for the funeral of Mike’s victims and to compensate them well for their pain and suffering. When Bruno reports back to RoHell afterwards, he asks him why he’s so eager to have AP so indebted to him. What kind of game is he playing? RoHellio insists he’s only making sure Pau has nothing to complain about. No, says Bruno, he’s doing all he can to put her under his control.
Big Dave gets his macho back on and apologizes to Sin. He offers to buy Sinthia some jewelry. She’s his queen and should be treated as such. FF>>
RoHell brandishes his whip and asks if Bruno wants him to put him in his place again. Bruno suggests it’s just that it seems something more is going on here with RoHell. He’s goes back with Vainessa and then begins showing all this interest in Paula. Does he perhaps have some sexual interest in her after all? What’s it to Bruno, Rog wants to know. It’s his business and none of Bruno’s, and he knows Bruno has the hots for his nurse. Bruno doesn’t miss this opportunity now to get his own back with Rogelio. “—Jealous, Rogelio? Well, let me remind you of something. The way you are you have no way to satisfy a woman’s physical desires. RoHell guffaws and reminds him that there are other ways to please a woman.
Back at Hell-Fuerte, Efrain wants to eat in the big man’s main dining room but Maria tells him to fageddabowdit. He’s only another of many employees there and he’d better not forget it. Connie tries to pacify him by telling him that Maria promised to ask the patron to let them date formally. She’s certain he will allow it. Just then one of the stable hands races into the kitchen to tell him they need to call the vet for Paloma. “—I told you not to ride her so much!!” Ruh-roh!
That evening, Mersnottys gets an unexpected visit from Esteban and the two of them get along really well. He ends up telling her about his upcoming divorce. FF>>
Bruno tells Ana Paula that, per Rogel’s instruction, he’s paid the buriel expenses (as well as the hospital expenses), so not to worry herself. Cupcake says she knows and will work it off in order to pay him back. Dani thinks she’s nutz! “—Just how many years do you expect to work before you pay him back? Have you even seen Michael’s hospital bill?” Bruno gives her the rest of the news. Mikey will definitely be going to jail for murder. Now it’s Dimples’ jaw that hits the floor. RoHell rolls up and says they’ve obviously heard about the people dying. He sends Dani and Bruno away so he can speak with Pau alone. She tells him he has to realize her brother never wanted those people to die. He says he does, but he doesn’t agree that it was such a bad thing. It was better for everybody that they did because then somebody would have had to support them for the rest of their natural lives. Pau hisses back that he’s not changed at all and is as insensitive as ever! All he can think about is money! She storms off. He’s flabberghatsted that she’s gotten away with it again. “—I meant only that it was the best for her brother’s situation,” he says to nobody there.
Mikey breaks up with Dani.
AP comes home that night in tears. She tells MentiaRosa that Mike’s going to jail for murder. Rosie insists Bruno would gladly help her with this problem, but she swears he might confuse things and she will never love Bruno. Nor does she want to owe him any more favors--PUHLEESE! Rohellio Mont-ogro, then? Definitely out of the question, she owes the shameless and insensitive brute too much already!! But think of your brother, (and meeeeee) insists Tia Rosie. She can forget waiting on Gus because he is never going to show up again. “—What makes you so certain of that???” Rosie takes a moment to disinsert foot from mouth.
Gus makes it finally to some little pueblo and immediately falls flat on his face on the sidewalk. A couple of guys leaving a bar notice him and stop to see if he’s still breathing.
MentiaRosie says it’s just that she wants Pau to open her eyes about Gus. If Gus is who she’s waiting to help her out she’s wasting her time. He’s been gone for days and days now! Even if he never shows up again, swears AP, she’s never going to be interested in Bruno! She says she’s going to take a bath and stomps out of the room. Rosie searches the desk drawer for Gus’s chain and says to herself that he’s not coming back again. “--You’re DEAD. DEAD!”
A minute or two later RoHell knocks on Pau’s door. Rosie lets him in. Is Paula in? “--Yes.” She tries purposely to arouse his interest by indelicate mention of her niece’s evening ablution. “—She’s er…she’s baaaaathing.” RoHell understands her meaning right off. “--You can wait if you’d like. She’s been crying because her brother’s going to jaaaaaaaiiiilllll.” More crocodile tears from Rosi. “--What will we doooooooo?” RoHell tells her straight-faced that he can prevent it. --Hmm. Now that’s a horse of a different color for Rosie. She’s ready to bargain. “—In exchange for what?” “—In exchange for Paula. I want her for myself.” Rosie pretends to be scandalized. She exclaims that her niece is a decent girl. RoHell looks her straight in the eye and doesn’t flinch and inch. “—Yes, but you are not! You’re willing [disponer] to sell your niece to the highest bidder—and that’s me!”
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Jardinera, once again, thanks.
I wish this TN would move along a little faster. About the only thing I figured out is that there is an evil triad of Bruno, Vainessa and Tia Ros.
And of course, if Rogelio is not happy no one is going to be happy.
Rosemary
I wish this TN would move along a little faster. About the only thing I figured out is that there is an evil triad of Bruno, Vainessa and Tia Ros.
And of course, if Rogelio is not happy no one is going to be happy.
Rosemary
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: Sunday, January 22, 2012 at 2:32:00 AM EST
: Sunday, January 22, 2012 at 2:32:00 AM EST
Thank you so much for this wonderful recap, Jardinera! I love your new names for our characters, especially "Dimples"! Very clever writing and you covered all the important parts. And you noticed the "hand porn" too! LOL!
I'm starting to wonder, what came first, did Rohell start acting like a butthead because he was getting it first, or is he now getting back what he's been dishing out since his accident? In this episode we've had two able-bodied men remind him that he's essentially half a man. Man, that's pretty cold. But, since this is Rohellio we're talking about here, butthead extraordinaire, I can't feel sorry for him or blame the guys for saying what they did to him. But on the other hand, maybe part of the reason he started to behave like a douchebag was because of comments like he got in this episode. Hmmm. . . probably it's a little more complicated than that.
Doesn't excuse the whipping, of course, or any of the other fresh douchebaggery he's planning.
I must admit that any scene with Rohellio and Tia together is fantastic. Two great actors and both characters are manipulators. "You can't bullsh*t a bullsh*tter" is what I said in one of my recaps, and that's how Rohell views Tia. No reason to beat around the bush with her, is there?
Finally the story is starting to pick up a little, but there are still moments where I'm thinking to myself, "Just get on with it!"
I'm starting to wonder, what came first, did Rohell start acting like a butthead because he was getting it first, or is he now getting back what he's been dishing out since his accident? In this episode we've had two able-bodied men remind him that he's essentially half a man. Man, that's pretty cold. But, since this is Rohellio we're talking about here, butthead extraordinaire, I can't feel sorry for him or blame the guys for saying what they did to him. But on the other hand, maybe part of the reason he started to behave like a douchebag was because of comments like he got in this episode. Hmmm. . . probably it's a little more complicated than that.
Doesn't excuse the whipping, of course, or any of the other fresh douchebaggery he's planning.
I must admit that any scene with Rohellio and Tia together is fantastic. Two great actors and both characters are manipulators. "You can't bullsh*t a bullsh*tter" is what I said in one of my recaps, and that's how Rohell views Tia. No reason to beat around the bush with her, is there?
Finally the story is starting to pick up a little, but there are still moments where I'm thinking to myself, "Just get on with it!"
Sorry, guys, I thought I'd caught all the grammatical errors. They're all fixed, I hope.
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Rosemary/Elvira: You're right if you mean the editing sucks in this telenovela. I feel I'm on a slow trail horse, kicking him in the ribs and asking him to pretty please go faster. But the hoss just continues moving at its own speed totally ignoring me.
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Rosemary/Elvira: You're right if you mean the editing sucks in this telenovela. I feel I'm on a slow trail horse, kicking him in the ribs and asking him to pretty please go faster. But the hoss just continues moving at its own speed totally ignoring me.
I do wonder what RoHell's truly got in mind here. He's out for revenge, methinks with Vainessa. I see him leading her on this whole time, leaving her and her Papi high and dry in the end.
He's too fascinated with Paula. He's opened up to her, tried explaining himself to her when he won't with anybody else he deals with closely on a daily basis. He's buying her back, true, but it's because he cannot compete for her --or woo her-- on a regular playing field, not in any other way for now, at least, and definitely not like a "whole man" would or could.
He's too fascinated with Paula. He's opened up to her, tried explaining himself to her when he won't with anybody else he deals with closely on a daily basis. He's buying her back, true, but it's because he cannot compete for her --or woo her-- on a regular playing field, not in any other way for now, at least, and definitely not like a "whole man" would or could.
I actually did fall asleep during the last 20 minutes or so. I haven't had Jolt in years. 5-Hour Energy wouldn't keep me awake through this either.
Did anyone else cringe when Rogelio said that luck was on his side because the accident victims died? This character is supposed to be a galán? Get to work Dimples! You have a lot of redeeming to do.
"In between Dani’s anguished mouse squeaks of explanation..." I had mice in one of my cabinets last month and I can tell you that they sound better than this particular actress. I was LOL when Dani got the news about Miguel's accident. She has the biggest mouth on the smallest face so when she started wailing and gnashing all you could see was her mouth surrounded by heavy lipstick. She reminded me of a clown.
This TN needs to pick up the pace...
Did anyone else cringe when Rogelio said that luck was on his side because the accident victims died? This character is supposed to be a galán? Get to work Dimples! You have a lot of redeeming to do.
"In between Dani’s anguished mouse squeaks of explanation..." I had mice in one of my cabinets last month and I can tell you that they sound better than this particular actress. I was LOL when Dani got the news about Miguel's accident. She has the biggest mouth on the smallest face so when she started wailing and gnashing all you could see was her mouth surrounded by heavy lipstick. She reminded me of a clown.
This TN needs to pick up the pace...
Permalink posted by : Sunday, January 22, 2012 at 8:04:00 AM EST
: Sunday, January 22, 2012 at 8:04:00 AM EST
Thanks, Jardinera. My favorite lines were That melts the sweaty smirk off Effer’s face like butter on a hot fry pan. and Rosie takes a moment to disinsert foot from mouth.
This woman is so cold and unfeeling she should be the ramera she's trying to push her niece into being. Hija de puta.
It's not difficult to figure out why Rogelio barely leaves the ranch. If other men think he is incapable of giving women (sexual) pleasure it's understandable that he would want to rob them of the pleasure of making fun of him. I think somebody is in for a shock here and that will be a very amusing event. I do not believe he is impotent.
Mercedes will be in for a shock eventually as well.
Finally -- most importantly for this episode -- where are the eyewitnesses to the accident? Did nobody else see the car that Miguel tried to avoid hitting?
This woman is so cold and unfeeling she should be the ramera she's trying to push her niece into being. Hija de puta.
It's not difficult to figure out why Rogelio barely leaves the ranch. If other men think he is incapable of giving women (sexual) pleasure it's understandable that he would want to rob them of the pleasure of making fun of him. I think somebody is in for a shock here and that will be a very amusing event. I do not believe he is impotent.
Mercedes will be in for a shock eventually as well.
Finally -- most importantly for this episode -- where are the eyewitnesses to the accident? Did nobody else see the car that Miguel tried to avoid hitting?
Classic Jardinera snark. Loved Mersnotty. I might be pilfering a great many things for my own recaps. Cupcake Nightengale is awesome! I have a list of why I am sticking with this one and I will share it later when I am not commenting from my phone. I'm sure you all are on edge waiting lol.
Jardinera, great recap, your recap moves along much more snappily than the TN! You manage to paint a picture of the scenes, and not one of your words is wasted!
That trail horse going so slow in your comment is obviously NOT Paloma...
Many of the commenters seem to think Rohell will be redeemed or will become a Galan. I kind of doubt it.
I think Rohell is like a mafia don, a crime boss. Bruno is one of his men, but Bruno is acting on his own when he beat up Gus.
It’s not clear what Bruno is up to but I think he is out to eventually double cross Rohell, and Vainessa is in on it.
Rohell wants to get revenge on Vainessa, and wants to control Paula; but I don’t think he is actually in love with Paula. He’s just found someone he can’t control and it is driving him nuts.
Rosaura has bought herself terrible trouble at the end of this thing according to TN justice, not to mention Bruno.
That trail horse going so slow in your comment is obviously NOT Paloma...
Many of the commenters seem to think Rohell will be redeemed or will become a Galan. I kind of doubt it.
I think Rohell is like a mafia don, a crime boss. Bruno is one of his men, but Bruno is acting on his own when he beat up Gus.
It’s not clear what Bruno is up to but I think he is out to eventually double cross Rohell, and Vainessa is in on it.
Rohell wants to get revenge on Vainessa, and wants to control Paula; but I don’t think he is actually in love with Paula. He’s just found someone he can’t control and it is driving him nuts.
Rosaura has bought herself terrible trouble at the end of this thing according to TN justice, not to mention Bruno.
Dear Jardinera,
A Sunday morning treat -- thank you!
You captured the manic screeching of this episode, even while it lumbered along. Just when I find myself despairing, however, the theme song returns (the one sung and written by Reyli), and I settle down. Very lovely tune.
Some novelas, like LFDD, start strong and then sag; others start slow and pick up. I hope that this is among the latter. It is the unusual one that starts sharp and remains so throughout, IMHO.
I'm afraid that for me Ana Brenda is part of the problem -- not strong enough against the exceptional JS. But the pacing and editing are for the birds (those long lost doves). Hope spring eternal in novela-land, even as beanie tightening gives me a headache.
Anyone looking into El Talisman tomorrow night?
A Sunday morning treat -- thank you!
You captured the manic screeching of this episode, even while it lumbered along. Just when I find myself despairing, however, the theme song returns (the one sung and written by Reyli), and I settle down. Very lovely tune.
Some novelas, like LFDD, start strong and then sag; others start slow and pick up. I hope that this is among the latter. It is the unusual one that starts sharp and remains so throughout, IMHO.
I'm afraid that for me Ana Brenda is part of the problem -- not strong enough against the exceptional JS. But the pacing and editing are for the birds (those long lost doves). Hope spring eternal in novela-land, even as beanie tightening gives me a headache.
Anyone looking into El Talisman tomorrow night?
Thanks so much, Jardinera. Great recap, as always. I love your snark, including the names, like "Virtuous Cupcake Nightingale." Perfect! And, of course, lines like "Rosie takes a moment to disinsert foot from mouth."
My favorite moment in this episode was at the very end, when Rogelio tells MenTiaRosa that she's capable of selling her niece to the highest bidder, "and that's me." Finally someone gets it right. Interesting that it's Rogelio. I still can't figure out whether he's the galán. That question, more than almost anything else, is what keeps me watching. I might well bail out if there were something much better starting up, but "El Talisman" just seems like more of the same.
My favorite moment in this episode was at the very end, when Rogelio tells MenTiaRosa that she's capable of selling her niece to the highest bidder, "and that's me." Finally someone gets it right. Interesting that it's Rogelio. I still can't figure out whether he's the galán. That question, more than almost anything else, is what keeps me watching. I might well bail out if there were something much better starting up, but "El Talisman" just seems like more of the same.
Jardinera, I agree, some of the reason Rohell is pulling this douchebaggery with Ana Paula is because he can't compete like a "normal" man. Well, maybe he actually could, but based on the kind of comments other men make about him, he has reason to believe he can't. He's trying to buy time with her.
Sue455, yes I know what you mean about Dani's big mouth crying--it was disconcerting to see that. Some people are "ugly criers" and she is one of them! LOL
I also winced when Rohell essentially laughed at those people's deaths. Man, he has a lot of redeeming to do, and probably some suffering/atoning to do as well.
Urban, exactly my feelings about why Rohell has holed himself up on the ranch. In just this episode, two men were more than eager to remind him of his "shortcomings." Even though both men said it in response to Rohell's douchebaggery (so my sympathy for Rohell is not at an all-time-high) still, it makes you think that this assumption that Rohell is half a man, someone no longer "entitled" to feel anything for a woman--you have to think that this attitude has been frequently expressed about him and towards him. It would inevitably affect his attitude towards life. (Though again, no excuse for the whipping, etc.)
And I don't get this assumption that he's impotent either. (As we've discussed previously.) He has feelings in his legs, for one thing. A lot of us have naturally assumed that everything is still functioning there, it's just that his legs don't move.
And I don't get the relationship between Rohell and Bruno. Last week Rohell whips Bruno in one scene and in the next, Bruno acts as if nothing has happened and interacts with Rohell "normally." (What passes for "normal" between them, anyway!) In this episode, Bruno "reminds" Rohell that he's not a whole man and I think he actually said something like, "Never again will you make a woman yours." Which is SO COLD. Yet Rohell laughs it off and they go on later with their business as if none of it was said. These guys have a complicated relationship, that's for sure.
Sue455, yes I know what you mean about Dani's big mouth crying--it was disconcerting to see that. Some people are "ugly criers" and she is one of them! LOL
I also winced when Rohell essentially laughed at those people's deaths. Man, he has a lot of redeeming to do, and probably some suffering/atoning to do as well.
Urban, exactly my feelings about why Rohell has holed himself up on the ranch. In just this episode, two men were more than eager to remind him of his "shortcomings." Even though both men said it in response to Rohell's douchebaggery (so my sympathy for Rohell is not at an all-time-high) still, it makes you think that this assumption that Rohell is half a man, someone no longer "entitled" to feel anything for a woman--you have to think that this attitude has been frequently expressed about him and towards him. It would inevitably affect his attitude towards life. (Though again, no excuse for the whipping, etc.)
And I don't get this assumption that he's impotent either. (As we've discussed previously.) He has feelings in his legs, for one thing. A lot of us have naturally assumed that everything is still functioning there, it's just that his legs don't move.
And I don't get the relationship between Rohell and Bruno. Last week Rohell whips Bruno in one scene and in the next, Bruno acts as if nothing has happened and interacts with Rohell "normally." (What passes for "normal" between them, anyway!) In this episode, Bruno "reminds" Rohell that he's not a whole man and I think he actually said something like, "Never again will you make a woman yours." Which is SO COLD. Yet Rohell laughs it off and they go on later with their business as if none of it was said. These guys have a complicated relationship, that's for sure.
Great comments this morning. It sounds as if we are as conflicted as this TN.
I think I need to amend my evil triad to Evil Quartet and add Cin. There is just something wrong with the relationship between she and Rogelio.
In spite of Rogelio's always wearing black, I am still firmly on his side. I would be a raving lunatic if I had to live with that group. Even Maria makes me crazy.
Rosemary
I think I need to amend my evil triad to Evil Quartet and add Cin. There is just something wrong with the relationship between she and Rogelio.
In spite of Rogelio's always wearing black, I am still firmly on his side. I would be a raving lunatic if I had to live with that group. Even Maria makes me crazy.
Rosemary
Permalink posted by : Sunday, January 22, 2012 at 10:34:00 AM EST
: Sunday, January 22, 2012 at 10:34:00 AM EST
lkJardinera, thanks for the fab recap. Enjoyed the snark.
All I could think at the end of this episode was "Run, Ana Run!" Rohellio is so busy making Ana Paula indebted to him he doesn't realize this tact will never ever lead to her falling in love with him. He's dooming himself.
All I could think at the end of this episode was "Run, Ana Run!" Rohellio is so busy making Ana Paula indebted to him he doesn't realize this tact will never ever lead to her falling in love with him. He's dooming himself.
Thank you Jardinera for this great recap. Loved your names for Ana Paula (Cupcake) and Mercedes (Merysnotty) lol. ITA with everyone that said Rohell is not impotent, I don't beleive he is either. So Rohell plots and plans with the best of them. I think he does want to control Ana Paula and he thinks for now helping her family will get him that. How is the Tia Mentirosa going to convince her to go with Rohell? And I just knew Rohell had the Tia's number.
Poor Gus. I hope he gets help.
Poor Miguel too. He really didn't deserve all this bad karma. I hope they find the car that ran him off the road.
I really can't wait until Vainessa finds out the Cupcake is coming back.
Bruno is so Machevillian. All his plots and plans. He's going to do anything to get Ana Paula for himself. Did anyone notice the scene where Bruno is talking to the Cupcake about Gus, there was a nurse in the background giving Bruno the death ray.
And lastly Maria, loved she had that whip. I hate the whip in this TN but in her hands it was better. I loved how she cracked it near Effer as if to say, I am in charge here when the Patron is gone and don't you forget it. lol.
Poor Gus. I hope he gets help.
Poor Miguel too. He really didn't deserve all this bad karma. I hope they find the car that ran him off the road.
I really can't wait until Vainessa finds out the Cupcake is coming back.
Bruno is so Machevillian. All his plots and plans. He's going to do anything to get Ana Paula for himself. Did anyone notice the scene where Bruno is talking to the Cupcake about Gus, there was a nurse in the background giving Bruno the death ray.
And lastly Maria, loved she had that whip. I hate the whip in this TN but in her hands it was better. I loved how she cracked it near Effer as if to say, I am in charge here when the Patron is gone and don't you forget it. lol.
Permalink posted by : Sunday, January 22, 2012 at 11:14:00 AM EST
: Sunday, January 22, 2012 at 11:14:00 AM EST
Thank you Jardinera for the succinct recap. The evil in this TN from so many characters who I want to like is a bit hard to take.
What is up with the judicial system in Mexico? Is it really like this? If you have a car accident and kill someone you are put in jail for murder without even an investigation? But if you have money you can pay your way out of it. This isn't the first TN that went this way.
I thought that when Rogelio was talking to Rosaura, he told her he wanted to marry AP, not just have her. I could be wrong though.
What is up with the judicial system in Mexico? Is it really like this? If you have a car accident and kill someone you are put in jail for murder without even an investigation? But if you have money you can pay your way out of it. This isn't the first TN that went this way.
I thought that when Rogelio was talking to Rosaura, he told her he wanted to marry AP, not just have her. I could be wrong though.
cathyx, the avances show Rohell proposing marriage to Ana Paula. And he said in a previous conversation with MentiRosa that he didn't just want to pass the time with AP. So at least his intentions towards her are "honorable." It seems to me that to him, marriage to AP is a favorable option (forever and ever, sounds good), also I think he knows she wouldn't ever accept just being a mistress or temporary plaything. The aunt has stressed that Ana Paula is a decent girl and Rohell already is at a romantic disadvantage with her (he feels) because of the chair, no need to offend her by offering her something less than a respectable marriage.
Super as always Jardinera.
Can't wait for Vanesa's reaction to Rogelio's proposal to AP.
Bruno is an opportunist & also wants to get even with Rogelio for the loss of his property.
Can't wait for Vanesa's reaction to Rogelio's proposal to AP.
Bruno is an opportunist & also wants to get even with Rogelio for the loss of his property.
Permalink posted by : Sunday, January 22, 2012 at 1:41:00 PM EST
: Sunday, January 22, 2012 at 1:41:00 PM EST
Oh Jardinera forgot to add to my post, love your title. lol. Reminds me of Rocky and Bullwinkle lol.
Permalink posted by : Sunday, January 22, 2012 at 2:12:00 PM EST
: Sunday, January 22, 2012 at 2:12:00 PM EST
My not by any means exhaustive list of why I am going to stick with this:
*I'm a glutton for schlock.
*Dany is an ugly crier and after a long week at work I need that kind of laugh.
*Corre
*Solamente Tu
*Te Dejare Amar
*The power of the Unibrow
*Jorge Salinas' expressive eyes
*Susana Gonzalez's abs (and shrinking shirt.)
*Vainy's comeuppance.
*I want Esteban to be happy after being married to Vainy, so I hope things with Mercedes go somewhere.
*I wouldn't mind seeing a Bruno redemption. I find Maripaz (LFDD) to be far more evil than he.
*Effer's comeuppance.
*Marcaria's gossip troupe may end up being pretty good comedy.
*Same goes for Maria's interactions with M-grito.
I'm sure I will come up with many more reasons as the show run.
*I'm a glutton for schlock.
*Dany is an ugly crier and after a long week at work I need that kind of laugh.
*Corre
*Solamente Tu
*Te Dejare Amar
*The power of the Unibrow
*Jorge Salinas' expressive eyes
*Susana Gonzalez's abs (and shrinking shirt.)
*Vainy's comeuppance.
*I want Esteban to be happy after being married to Vainy, so I hope things with Mercedes go somewhere.
*I wouldn't mind seeing a Bruno redemption. I find Maripaz (LFDD) to be far more evil than he.
*Effer's comeuppance.
*Marcaria's gossip troupe may end up being pretty good comedy.
*Same goes for Maria's interactions with M-grito.
I'm sure I will come up with many more reasons as the show run.
Thank you for the recap Jardinera!
I agree with those who like the scenes with Tía Rosaura and Rogelio. I like that she can't control him and he sees her for what she is. It might be the same with Bruno but I never get any satisfaction out of watching him onscreen. I just don't care for Julián Gil.
I think the biggest issue of this telenovela is the direction. Jose Alberto Castro always tends to choose good directors for his projects, like Benjamín Cann or Mónica Miguel. For some reason he got stuck with Salvador Garcini here, that's why the acting feels off at times and the editing is weird too.
I think if I had to choose any guy from this telenovela in real life I'd choose Esteban. Vanesa is absolutely nuts for letting him go in hopes of getting Rogelio back. Marco Méndez is such a hottie, I wish he and José Ron had switched roles.
Before Teresa, Jose Alberto Castro made a novela called Los Exitosos Pérez, starred by Jaime Camil and Ludwika Paleta. I don't think Univision showed it because Telemundo was running the Peruvian version (there's a Chilean and a Spanish version too, the original is from Argentina).
Several actors from LQNPA appeared in LEP and José Ron, Marco Méndez and Paty Díaz had very different roles there. Here's the trailer for those who might like to see a bit of them in different roles. I think that was my favorite character of José Ron, he was actually pretty good there.
Susana González and Ana Martin also had small roles at different parts of the story. Susana's abs weren't shown but she did play a very sexy character and got to do some steamy scenes with Camil.
Jarocha
I agree with those who like the scenes with Tía Rosaura and Rogelio. I like that she can't control him and he sees her for what she is. It might be the same with Bruno but I never get any satisfaction out of watching him onscreen. I just don't care for Julián Gil.
I think the biggest issue of this telenovela is the direction. Jose Alberto Castro always tends to choose good directors for his projects, like Benjamín Cann or Mónica Miguel. For some reason he got stuck with Salvador Garcini here, that's why the acting feels off at times and the editing is weird too.
I think if I had to choose any guy from this telenovela in real life I'd choose Esteban. Vanesa is absolutely nuts for letting him go in hopes of getting Rogelio back. Marco Méndez is such a hottie, I wish he and José Ron had switched roles.
Before Teresa, Jose Alberto Castro made a novela called Los Exitosos Pérez, starred by Jaime Camil and Ludwika Paleta. I don't think Univision showed it because Telemundo was running the Peruvian version (there's a Chilean and a Spanish version too, the original is from Argentina).
Several actors from LQNPA appeared in LEP and José Ron, Marco Méndez and Paty Díaz had very different roles there. Here's the trailer for those who might like to see a bit of them in different roles. I think that was my favorite character of José Ron, he was actually pretty good there.
Susana González and Ana Martin also had small roles at different parts of the story. Susana's abs weren't shown but she did play a very sexy character and got to do some steamy scenes with Camil.
Jarocha
Permalink posted by : Sunday, January 22, 2012 at 3:04:00 PM EST
: Sunday, January 22, 2012 at 3:04:00 PM EST
Jardinera, thanks for your recap.
ITA that the scenes with Mentirosa and Rogelio are great. He can see right through her which is great as her poor niece and nephew are completely clueless.
But Rogelio's glee at the death of the couple and its consequences (AP being indebted to him) was stomach churning.
ITA that the scenes with Mentirosa and Rogelio are great. He can see right through her which is great as her poor niece and nephew are completely clueless.
But Rogelio's glee at the death of the couple and its consequences (AP being indebted to him) was stomach churning.
Jardinera, I took a break from this disturbing (to me) violence for the past few days but I couldn't resist your delightful recap style. I'm not sure about next week but it is easier to read your amusing snark than see these nasty characters streaming by. Thanks for the good laughs.
Jarocha --funny trailer! That must have been a great tn! I love the premis and the last scene was hilarious!
Thanks, all for stopping by and offering comments. The guessing games you're all playing is terrific. I haven't a clue as to real motivation of RoHell and I am eager to see what he's up to really, especially if Vainessa gets it in the gut.
Loved the clip Jarocha, looks very entertaining. Why do they have to slick Jaime Camils hair like that? I have never seen him in anything, but he is making a TN with Lucero. so I'm soon to be introduced to JC.
Permalink posted by : Sunday, January 22, 2012 at 4:43:00 PM EST
: Sunday, January 22, 2012 at 4:43:00 PM EST
Jarocha,
I saw the Peruvian version of Los Exitosos Perez on Telemundo. Very funny telenovela. I particularly enjoyed it because Diego Bertie is one of my favorite actors. I have seen him in several really good movies, but only in one other tenovela -- Leonela with Mariana Levy (que descansa en paz). By the way, I just saw The Artist a couple of weeks ago, and the actress in that looks just like her. The trailer looks very much like the Peruvian version. I wonder if Univision will air it. It's a lot better than the stuff they have put on the air recently (IMHO).
Kayzie
I saw the Peruvian version of Los Exitosos Perez on Telemundo. Very funny telenovela. I particularly enjoyed it because Diego Bertie is one of my favorite actors. I have seen him in several really good movies, but only in one other tenovela -- Leonela with Mariana Levy (que descansa en paz). By the way, I just saw The Artist a couple of weeks ago, and the actress in that looks just like her. The trailer looks very much like the Peruvian version. I wonder if Univision will air it. It's a lot better than the stuff they have put on the air recently (IMHO).
Kayzie
Permalink posted by : Sunday, January 22, 2012 at 5:50:00 PM EST
: Sunday, January 22, 2012 at 5:50:00 PM EST
Jardinera, thanks for the recap that actually redeemed the episode. Your analogy of the slow trail horse was right on target.
Although I like Ana Brenda, I'm beginning to wonder if she has the strength to balance Rohell. I guess we'll see.
La Paloma
Although I like Ana Brenda, I'm beginning to wonder if she has the strength to balance Rohell. I guess we'll see.
La Paloma
Permalink posted by : Sunday, January 22, 2012 at 6:42:00 PM EST
: Sunday, January 22, 2012 at 6:42:00 PM EST
Loved the recap Jardinera. So Rog isn't pulling any punches. He wants AP and he know that Rosaura would sell her to the highest bidder. I'm sure of course AP will not go along with this plan which is why Rog is making sure she is completely indebted to him. We also know the anvil is lining up over the fact that Miquel was working on assignment when the accident occurred.
In the previews, Rog even stood up in his wheelchair while confronting Rosaura. I'm looking forward to it.
In the previews, Rog even stood up in his wheelchair while confronting Rosaura. I'm looking forward to it.
Permalink posted by : Sunday, January 22, 2012 at 7:00:00 PM EST
: Sunday, January 22, 2012 at 7:00:00 PM EST
Excellent recap Jardinera, Loved "That melts the sweaty smirk off Effer’s face like butter on a hot fry pan." and "cupcake nightengale" classics !
I have been a fly on the wall her because I seem to always be behind on the shows, but I must finally say I find the excuses and compassion people have for Rogelio amazing. Tia and Bruno should burn in hell but Rogelio should miraculously change! The only possible way for him to change ALL his bad qualities is maybe a lobotomy! LOL
Never would I want our kind, innocent,sweet "cupcake" to end up with him. Her first love should be sweet and honest with the likes of Gustavo. Not full of cruel mind games and control.
What happens after the honeymoon is over...does he whip her or their kids if he gets angry? Tell her where or where not to go. Heck he is physically and verbally abusive & controling to his sister, like that would change with his own wife.
The whippings he gave Bruno and Efrain were despicable, he could/should go to jail for that alone! What I would give to grab that friggin whip and break it right in front of him! hahaha
The icing on the Rogelio is a A$$hole cake was his telling AP that the best thing would be for the people Miguel ran over "SHOULD DIE" what ???? Then telling David to wait and let Miguel take all the blame!! WTH ??
How could you live with someone after you find out they totally arranged to "own" you. They set up your poor brother and let you all suffer just for their own gain??
People don't really change all that much, something in their core makes them what they are, you can learn to suppress it but its in there. Plus he has way toooooo many things that need changing..He'd go broke on therapy!
Even my titanium beanie is not helping on his behalf
Cons:
1. he is too old for AP
2. he is physically abusive
3. mentally & verbaly abusive
4. jaded & cynical
5.mean spirited
6. controlling to the 10th degree
7. revengeful
8. male chauvinist pig
9. self centered
10. classist
11.lacks compassion
PROS:
1. wealthy
2. dimples
I love a spicy salsa but will take the runny tomatoes any day over chewing on a raw habanero!
team Gustavo for me! WHEW...thank you for my ranting
word verification: jecol
Rogelio is a jecol (jackel or jerk-o)
I have been a fly on the wall her because I seem to always be behind on the shows, but I must finally say I find the excuses and compassion people have for Rogelio amazing. Tia and Bruno should burn in hell but Rogelio should miraculously change! The only possible way for him to change ALL his bad qualities is maybe a lobotomy! LOL
Never would I want our kind, innocent,sweet "cupcake" to end up with him. Her first love should be sweet and honest with the likes of Gustavo. Not full of cruel mind games and control.
What happens after the honeymoon is over...does he whip her or their kids if he gets angry? Tell her where or where not to go. Heck he is physically and verbally abusive & controling to his sister, like that would change with his own wife.
The whippings he gave Bruno and Efrain were despicable, he could/should go to jail for that alone! What I would give to grab that friggin whip and break it right in front of him! hahaha
The icing on the Rogelio is a A$$hole cake was his telling AP that the best thing would be for the people Miguel ran over "SHOULD DIE" what ???? Then telling David to wait and let Miguel take all the blame!! WTH ??
How could you live with someone after you find out they totally arranged to "own" you. They set up your poor brother and let you all suffer just for their own gain??
People don't really change all that much, something in their core makes them what they are, you can learn to suppress it but its in there. Plus he has way toooooo many things that need changing..He'd go broke on therapy!
Even my titanium beanie is not helping on his behalf
Cons:
1. he is too old for AP
2. he is physically abusive
3. mentally & verbaly abusive
4. jaded & cynical
5.mean spirited
6. controlling to the 10th degree
7. revengeful
8. male chauvinist pig
9. self centered
10. classist
11.lacks compassion
PROS:
1. wealthy
2. dimples
I love a spicy salsa but will take the runny tomatoes any day over chewing on a raw habanero!
team Gustavo for me! WHEW...thank you for my ranting
word verification: jecol
Rogelio is a jecol (jackel or jerk-o)
"It's not difficult to figure out why Rogelio barely leaves the ranch. If other men think he is incapable of giving women (sexual) pleasure it's understandable that he would want to rob them of the pleasure of making fun of him. I think somebody is in for a shock here and that will be a very amusing event. I do not believe he is impotent." I agree with this UA and as Rog pointed out there are other ways to please a woman and me thinks he's got it bad for AP LOL.
Permalink posted by : Sunday, January 22, 2012 at 7:04:00 PM EST
: Sunday, January 22, 2012 at 7:04:00 PM EST
Jardinera
Thanks for adding your special brand of warmth to the recap. As usual the recap was infinitely better than the episode.
Elle: ITA with your comments.
As to Rogelio ad his sexual prowess,I think he is quite capable in that department. He is constantly seducing anyone he can't intimidate. And, writers, what century are we in? There are millions of people out there who enjoy sexual relationships that do not include the man-on-top missionary position.
Thanks for adding your special brand of warmth to the recap. As usual the recap was infinitely better than the episode.
Elle: ITA with your comments.
As to Rogelio ad his sexual prowess,I think he is quite capable in that department. He is constantly seducing anyone he can't intimidate. And, writers, what century are we in? There are millions of people out there who enjoy sexual relationships that do not include the man-on-top missionary position.
Thanks, Jardinera. I am just not caring about any of these people...good or bad. Where are Fernando and Eduardo when I need them ? Have they stopped doing novelas ?
Permalink posted by : Sunday, January 22, 2012 at 7:45:00 PM EST
: Sunday, January 22, 2012 at 7:45:00 PM EST
Keep telling yourself, this is a novela & our characters can turn on a dime, which I am sure Rogelio will do.
Final chapter, Rogelio & AP wedding, live happily ever after. Isn't that the novela rule?
Just enjoy the ride, or not. Beanie adjustments mandatory.
Final chapter, Rogelio & AP wedding, live happily ever after. Isn't that the novela rule?
Just enjoy the ride, or not. Beanie adjustments mandatory.
Permalink posted by : Sunday, January 22, 2012 at 8:00:00 PM EST
: Sunday, January 22, 2012 at 8:00:00 PM EST
Ok, so I'm slowly letting go of my "Rogelio for Galan" campaign... not sure how a redemption would happen at this point, even tho it's early on. Considering his reaction to the bystander deaths and manipulation of Miguel's situation, it doesn't seem possible, but stranger things have happened in TNland :)
I'm in agreement with Jarocha re: Esteban... I hope he ends up with someone fabulous. He's adorable. He was one of my favorites in Triunfo.
And, thank you, Sue and Elvira, for bringing up Dani's clown-lip crying! I was feeling terrible for laughing through that scene, but those rubber-band lips were SO distracting!! I like Ingrid M but she definitely is an ugly crier!
Thanks for the snappy recap Jardinera!
AnotherAmy
I'm in agreement with Jarocha re: Esteban... I hope he ends up with someone fabulous. He's adorable. He was one of my favorites in Triunfo.
And, thank you, Sue and Elvira, for bringing up Dani's clown-lip crying! I was feeling terrible for laughing through that scene, but those rubber-band lips were SO distracting!! I like Ingrid M but she definitely is an ugly crier!
Thanks for the snappy recap Jardinera!
AnotherAmy
Permalink posted by : Sunday, January 22, 2012 at 8:10:00 PM EST
: Sunday, January 22, 2012 at 8:10:00 PM EST
Variopinta, I'm with you. As reprehensible as Rohell seems right now, he is a galán. The 'signs' are already there. This is TelenovelaLand. Weirder things have happened and we need our extra-super-durable beanies for this one. I had an advantage when I saw these episodes first without CCs. I didn't catch all the nuances of the douchebaggery that Rohell was planning. Now that I see the episodes with CCs, I'm thinking, "MAN, is Rohell VILE right now, or what?"
And yet . . . he is a galán! LOL!
And yet . . . he is a galán! LOL!
The best moment of the episode... Rogelio calling out Rosaura. "She's a decent girl!" "She is, but YOURE NOT..."
Rewound that one a few times ;) God help me, I'm still rooting for him...
AnotherAmy
Rewound that one a few times ;) God help me, I'm still rooting for him...
AnotherAmy
Permalink posted by : Sunday, January 22, 2012 at 8:55:00 PM EST
: Sunday, January 22, 2012 at 8:55:00 PM EST
Seems we have the same problem as always when it comes to age-appropriate actors, IMHO. Sure RoHellio appears to be way too old for the Cupcake. Salinas is sexy and commanding on screen. He, like other talented, 40-50 something Alpha males at Uni just shouldn't be continually paired with actresses barely out of their teens. Talk about your visual dissonance!! It's ridiculous, especially since the character he's playing is probably in his early 30's.
I have stopped watching this one for now, but you recappers are wonderful, so I must read. Jardinera, this recap did not disappoint. Thank you.
Elle- ITA! But I have given up ranting so as not to sound like a broken record. :) The lack of empathy on the part of a galan is particularly disturbing. Stupidity (as many of our galans often display) is redeemable and forgiveable, but this lack of empathy is not something that can be changed easily.
Elle- ITA! But I have given up ranting so as not to sound like a broken record. :) The lack of empathy on the part of a galan is particularly disturbing. Stupidity (as many of our galans often display) is redeemable and forgiveable, but this lack of empathy is not something that can be changed easily.
I think we need to agree to ignore the actors' real ages. Ana Brenda is 25, Ingrid Martz is 33, Susana Gonzales is 38, Jorge Salinas is almost 44, and Julian Gil is almost 42. I think that Ana Paula and Dany are meant to be about 20 while the two guys mentioned here are meant to be in their mid-30s. But Skelator will look older because of his facial bone structure and Rogelio could look older because of his ordeal.
In Gothic novels this age difference is commonplace. Particularly if the heroine is an orphan with no other relations. Considering how useless MentiRosaura and Miguel are to Ana Paula, she may as well be.
In Gothic novels this age difference is commonplace. Particularly if the heroine is an orphan with no other relations. Considering how useless MentiRosaura and Miguel are to Ana Paula, she may as well be.
Thanks Jardinera! I always look forward to your recaps over the weekend and this one was great! I love your cupcake moniker - perfect for little miss too-sweet-to-be-true. Also, Mersnotty LOL!
I'm hooked on this one 'cause of the bad guys. I wanna see Vainessa fall hard on her ass and learn she's not "the one". I wanna see David get a big dose of his own nasty corrupt medicine. I wanna see Efraín caught in a trap to end all sweaty smirks. I wanna see Bruno and Tia Rosa go down big time, and may they often be thwarted along the way.
And I love Maria!
I really don't care whether Rogelio is the galán or not or whether he will be redeemed. I'm happy to sit back and watch his life unfold - either way is fine with me. He doesn't have much soul left, so I'm not sure what he is capable of learning - maybe just that he doesn't have the amount of control he imagines and that there are indeed things not for sale.
As for AP and the young innocents - they just need to grow up a bit. Too bad it's going to be the school of really hard knocks!
Audrey
I'm hooked on this one 'cause of the bad guys. I wanna see Vainessa fall hard on her ass and learn she's not "the one". I wanna see David get a big dose of his own nasty corrupt medicine. I wanna see Efraín caught in a trap to end all sweaty smirks. I wanna see Bruno and Tia Rosa go down big time, and may they often be thwarted along the way.
And I love Maria!
I really don't care whether Rogelio is the galán or not or whether he will be redeemed. I'm happy to sit back and watch his life unfold - either way is fine with me. He doesn't have much soul left, so I'm not sure what he is capable of learning - maybe just that he doesn't have the amount of control he imagines and that there are indeed things not for sale.
As for AP and the young innocents - they just need to grow up a bit. Too bad it's going to be the school of really hard knocks!
Audrey
Permalink posted by : Sunday, January 22, 2012 at 10:15:00 PM EST
: Sunday, January 22, 2012 at 10:15:00 PM EST
Urban, I agree about the age differences--this is "normal" in gothic novels and many of those old politically incorrect Harlequin romances. An age difference of 10-15 years is not unheard of.
I was showing my one sister Friday's episode (and Monday's episode, as she'll be missing that one on Univision) and we discussed the ages of the characters at length. We think that Rogelio is in his late 30s. (I don't think Jorge Salinas can pass for any younger than that. In "Fuego en la Sangre" he was about 40 and looked pretty much as he does here.) Let's assume for the sake of argument that AP is 25. That's an age difference of 13-14 years, not too out of the ordinary for those old Historical/Gothic and Harlequin romances.
As for Rohell's douchebaggery, it's bad, but not to the point of no return (not like with Bruno ordering the hit on poor Gustavo). Rohell has a horrible attitude that (if this were real life) would be unlikely to be fixed, so we need our beanies. This kind of beanie-inducing stuff is nothing terribly new for those of us with horrible taste in literature (i.e. old romance novels). My sister and I will enjoy seeing Rohell learn his lessons and suffer (as he MUST suffer!) along the way.
I was showing my one sister Friday's episode (and Monday's episode, as she'll be missing that one on Univision) and we discussed the ages of the characters at length. We think that Rogelio is in his late 30s. (I don't think Jorge Salinas can pass for any younger than that. In "Fuego en la Sangre" he was about 40 and looked pretty much as he does here.) Let's assume for the sake of argument that AP is 25. That's an age difference of 13-14 years, not too out of the ordinary for those old Historical/Gothic and Harlequin romances.
As for Rohell's douchebaggery, it's bad, but not to the point of no return (not like with Bruno ordering the hit on poor Gustavo). Rohell has a horrible attitude that (if this were real life) would be unlikely to be fixed, so we need our beanies. This kind of beanie-inducing stuff is nothing terribly new for those of us with horrible taste in literature (i.e. old romance novels). My sister and I will enjoy seeing Rohell learn his lessons and suffer (as he MUST suffer!) along the way.
Telenovela casting seems to ignore the real ages of actors. Suspended disbelief is necessary when you are a novela fan. Both of my daughters married guys who are 10 years older than they are. Hub and I met in high school and are the same age , so I was surprised when both our girls married older guys.
Permalink posted by : Monday, January 23, 2012 at 9:37:00 AM EST
: Monday, January 23, 2012 at 9:37:00 AM EST
Jardinera: I just got to read this. There aren't enough superlatives for your amazing recap. Your words sparkled and shone. Your commentary and snark was on point and I smiled all the way through. To begin with, your title was absolutely wonderful!
I enjoyed every word - you consistently outdo yourself. "Jolt Cola", "torment, turbidity, and turmoil" and "uber-caring Cupcake Nightingale" were among my favorites.
There was no denying Rogelio's intent as he stood glaring at Tia Rosaura. His disdain, distaste and dislike struck fear into my heart. I believe this is the first time she seemed totally cowed. I'm wondering how in the world his transformation from beast to prince is going to be accomplished.
Diana
I enjoyed every word - you consistently outdo yourself. "Jolt Cola", "torment, turbidity, and turmoil" and "uber-caring Cupcake Nightingale" were among my favorites.
There was no denying Rogelio's intent as he stood glaring at Tia Rosaura. His disdain, distaste and dislike struck fear into my heart. I believe this is the first time she seemed totally cowed. I'm wondering how in the world his transformation from beast to prince is going to be accomplished.
Diana
Permalink posted by : Monday, January 23, 2012 at 3:15:00 PM EST
: Monday, January 23, 2012 at 3:15:00 PM EST
Hi Jardinera, another great recap. Thanks.
I'm really struggling to maintain an interest in this show. Thankfully the recaps sparkle.
I've mentioned how much I'm enjoying Cinthia, but there is another character that I'm fascinated with and that is Hugo. He's on and off quickly and glowers inscrutably. I keep waiting for him to do something significant but mostly, he's just efficient.
How long will it take for Ana Paula to stumble across Gus' nicknacks in that drawer?
Carlos
I'm really struggling to maintain an interest in this show. Thankfully the recaps sparkle.
I've mentioned how much I'm enjoying Cinthia, but there is another character that I'm fascinated with and that is Hugo. He's on and off quickly and glowers inscrutably. I keep waiting for him to do something significant but mostly, he's just efficient.
How long will it take for Ana Paula to stumble across Gus' nicknacks in that drawer?
Carlos
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