Saturday, April 06, 2013
Amores Verdaderos #103 Fri 4/5/13 The Curious Case of the Patient in Room 504 or Room 503 or Room 504 or Room 503.....
Arriagas Apartment #904: Disney Princess Lilly, swears her mother to secrecy. Please don’t Dad that I got drunk, picked up a complete stranger and almost lost my virginity in a two-seater. I will lose my job at Alandfaraway if it gets out that I’m a tramp. Christina says that she won’t tell. Arriaga doesn’t deserve to know what goes on this house. Relieved, Lilly curtsies, and then bids her mother adieu with a cheery smile, a kiss and a happy song. Small forest animals trail her down the hall.
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In this show every single character end up in the same hospital rooms.
Just wanted to say on Thursday's episode Guzmancito looked really nice in a white t-shirt :)
Team Nikki/Guzmancito
Can't wait to read your take on this epi. I am conflicted about Anyballs. I know he is bad to the bone, but he is sure protecting the Angel against that FF.
And wasn't Espanto funny in his dreadlocks and that "semi" Jamaican hat??? I was laughing so hard when I saw him in that. He is so not a Rostaman.
Roy just doesn't learn does he. Giving Guzmi orders! I am so glad Guzmi not only told him no, but hell no, especially after what happened to Ms Vikki, too funny.
I was wondering the same thing about Kendho. It looked like a neck pillow but it was wide and big enough to do away with Ms Vikki. I am glad the Angel is right there.
This whole recap is priceless and I loved the way you were describing Ms Vikki and especially the Angel, lol.
I agree with you about Espanto, when I saw the dreads, I just busted out laughing and I couldn't stop.
Anyballs lifting his leg, er chin, too funny. But Anyballs is way smart, he knew exactly who instigated all of this. Not the murder but making Anyballs suffer. If they would just watch Odio they would eventually get to Kendho.
And isn't always with these TN's that people can be in the same room and never see each other, lol. I thought for sure little Orchid would see Roy and Nikki but not so much. I am sure little Orchid will run into Roy sometime.
Loved the reunion between Balzac(hee hee) and Estafano, with Jean Marie looking on, too cute.
YAY!!! Bal-zac sighting! JeanMarie<--->Estafano mutual sighting!
Oh gawd,,, Espanto in Rastafarian disguise is just so . . . awful. I might have nightmares.
My guess is that Leo the Low is due to resurface in the near future. Maybe he'll show up at Bea's in a rage (naturally) and kill Cristina during said rage. It's the only way out of this mess for her.
Cyndi --- yes, I think Kendra wants to smother Victoria with that pillow, but The Great Brain Trust of Mexico (a/k/a Kendra) did not notice it has a giant hole in the middle that will allow Vikki to breathe. Eejit.
Victoria in TX - Guzman looks good in any color shirt. And any stle shirt. Or no shirt. ;-)
"Christina fondly recounts her first time with Arriaga. Great…just what a daughter wants to hear….stories about the first time her parents had sex."
I'm also a huge Odette fan. She is so cute, so droll, and so huggable... sort of an attempt at an evil plushtoy... and her scenes with Aníbal are so much fun. It looks to me as though they are both struggling to maintain straight faces. I can't wait to see how she reacts to the pooch's return. Maybe Balzac (heh heh) has learned his lesson and be more respectful of her expensive shoes.
I was sooo hoping that Roxana would come face to face with Roy last night...but then...all in good time.
Carlos
"Christina fondly recounts her first time with Arriaga. Great…just what a daughter wants to hear….stories about the first time her parents had sex."
Exactly. This scene creeped me out. :P
Yay! Major Balzac sighting! And he's brought his two masters together.
The villains in this tn are so funny. Could not stop laughing when Espanto showed up in the 70s Rastafarian costume. And when Kendra showed up in Vicky's room with a GIANT murder pillow. QTH?! Please don't tell me JA is actually going to leave her alone in Vicky's room.
Also, if Kendra is a Supermodel and Publidad and Meta are hiring her, wouldn't someone from her past have recognized a former hooker by now? Kendra should have amassed some money by now. Was Meta her first client? I don't get it.
Thanks everyone for you nice comments. I know I that I cross the line at times.
"Anibal... lifts his leg"
"You gotta Alotta Bigga Ballsvaneras coming in my office...
"the small forest animals have abandoned her"
My take on Cris before and now. Before she thought it was sex and deep down didn't think she and JA were over. Now she's realizing it's love and that maybe she's lost JA for good, so she's too depressed to rage.
Yay, Balzac and Estefano are reunited. But will he prefer staying with JM over Estefano? At least JM makes him wear only a bow.
Poor little Disney Lili has always talked to plants. She feels they grow better and that plants have feelings, she said this in the beginning of this TN, lol. So the plants have always been Lili's friends. Hey at least she can trust her plant friends and they are far better than Nikki's live friends, jus' sayin'.
Thank you so much Ms Cynderella for taking these last two Fridays for me. You have been fantabulous to do this and so enjoyed your recaps : )
You never cross the line, eva ; )
About Kendho. The only one that we thought knew about her past was Salsero, cause he rescued her from the life. She was a high class hooker involved with a dangerous dude that Salsero rescued her from. They became an item but then broke it off, cause I think Salsero realized how BSC she really is. Salsero has threatened her with exposure once before and now Espanto must have done some digging on his own and now knows who she is. I was surprised too, when they mentioned her past before, cause you'd think one of her "johns" would have recognized her or the bad dude at least. But nopis, nothing. I am wondering if she changed her "luke" so drastically she is not looking the same as she once did.
I looked up the word teibolera on both Spanish dictionary online and in my own Spanish dictionary and couldn't find it. The word for hooker in Spanish is:
fulana or prostituta
Thanks for the translation. I still think that Salsero rescued her from the life, I just know that is what he said in the beginning of this TN.
very funny all the way. Some funny lines---Kendra's real name is Macaria Chavez---A Walmart hit man instead of a professional.
Yes the pillow is meant for murder, not comfort.
I do disagree with you about Little
Orchard though. Liliana is sweeter than sweet [BRAT Nikki could take a few lessons from her] and has talked to the plants/flowers from day one.
Doris---Kendra, the Great Brain Trust of Mexico---So funny.
Roller Boy Roy just won't give up.
When is he going to crash and burn?
Will Nikki find him in the arms of another woman just before their wedding?
He's not welcome on the patio is he?
the gringo
I guess we all have our favorites and are not so favorites.
Gringo- "Will Nikki find him in the arms of another woman just before their wedding?"
I'm hoping on it like no other.
Team Nikki/Guzmancito
I thought Annibal would ask Odette why she knew what happened to Vicki ahead of anybody when nobody told her except Kendho.
Oh I love Balzac/Monet. He is too cute!!!
Team Nikki/Guzmancito2
Guzman has given neither Lilli or Polita a serious glance ever.
Has smarmy Roy turned Lili's head?
The Francisco character looked younger than BoyToyRobRoy.
(Paz and Aguirre, aka Victoria and Arriaga were soooo hot together. Ernesto Calzadilla is a bonboncito.)
Aribeth- Thanks for the link to the trailer. Obviously, the Colombian version took itself way more seriously than this version does.
I see the Odette character is much younger-- she even looks younger than the Vicky character. Considering the Jose Angel character is much younger, I assume he doesn't have a teenage daughter. So how is the Lili character related to eveyone? Is there a Cris character? And does Adriana exist in that version.
Arriaga/Aguirre did have a teenage daughter in every version. I tried to do the math a few times before, and I guess he and his wife (I think her name was Gabriela, not Cristina) had their child when they were 19. Which means they were 36-37 when the story started.
In the previous versions there's a 10-12 years age gap between Aguirre and Paz/Victoria. In AV this was changed because Lalo Yanez was the first actor the producer hired for the show, and it would've been impossible to find an actress who's older than him but still young enough to play Victoria. Not to mention that he can't play a 30-something guy anymore.
The Adriana character also exists in every version. The true origin of Liliana is an important part of the story. :)
I like Lili and Nikki and Cris and Vickie. I miss seeing Lili and JA train together, and would love to see Lili kick a$$, but only in self-defense of course. Like maybe Roy the Boy will get out of line with her again and she has to twist that little wrist of his.
Hahahaha!!!! I have missed your humor! Sooooo many funny lines! Loved Lili bidding her mother adieu with a curtsey and a trail of woodland animals.
Great recap from start to finish!
Katy
Balzac would be crazy to want to leave JM. He's a superb chef and doesn't have all those dumb outfits.
Does anyone else remember from the 1970s (well, if you are that old - ack!) there was a popular idea that talking to plants was good for them; it made them happy and healthy. This could be part of Lili's success with them, even if they are her own personal private Dr. Phil.
gringo - no, Roy-ero is not welcome on the patio. He belongs in the manure pile.
"Also, if Kendra is a Supermodel and Publidad and Meta are hiring her, wouldn't someone from her past have recognized a former hooker by now?"
Good question, and one that I've pondered also. Her former clients probably don't read fashion magazines. Maybe they can't read, at all. I doubt she was a high-end hooker, more like skank ho on street corner that maybe hooked up with a drug lord?
Team Nikki/Guzmancito
There's one problem with the previous versions: they were too long and too many things happened in them. AV may be painfully slow, but at least there's no time for the crazy plot twists the original Amor en custodia had.
Team Nikki/Guzmancito
My problem with the actor playing Roy is that his natural voice has a much higher pitch than the one he uses here so it's easy to tell he is faking it. He spends so much energy trying to sound more manly that he just sounds ridiculous.
About strippers being also prostitutes, it can happen. It depends on the kind of establishment. Prostitution is legal in Mexico so there are registered brothels that offer both services.
Aribeth: Thanks for the link to the trailer of the Colombian version. Their Arriaga is pretty hot!
Having only previously seen the Azteca one, I can say that what I prefer from this version is the Victoria/Arriaga story. I like the chemistry between Eduardo and Erika and I enjoy their interactions better. Arriaga here is older but he is portrayed as more impulsive and more passionate. The actress who played Paz/Vikky in the Azteca version played an older woman involved with a younger man in a previous telenovela and she had mad hot chemistry with him so I think that's why she was chosen but I don't think the same happened with the actor in their version of AV, they were just ok.
The reverse happens to me with Nikky and Guzmán. I loved Barbie/Nikky and Pacheco/Guzmán in the Azteca version (the actors became so opular that they ended up doing another telenovela and a play together because the audience loved them as a couple) but Nikky/Guzmán bore me here. As much as I love Rulli, I find their scenes such a snooze fest.
Other characters that I feel strongly about: I liked Azteca's Liliana better (though I like Sherlyn, it's just the OTT writing here that I have a problem with) but I like this Adriana better so I care more about their storyline here. I MUCH prefer Azteca's Cristina but I love Beatriz here, she was basically a non-entity in Azteca.
Jarocha
Nikki, she grabs Nikki's hand very violenty.
Every confrontation between the two was initiated by the I'm better than everyone, the world revolves around me, spoiled princess brat Nikki. She can't even compete in a competition without cheating to come in first.
After all, you little flower girl are nothing more than trash beneath
my feet.
A little twist of the spoiled brat's hand was good for her, maybe she will think twice before she opens her brat mouth next time.
Vivi---Lili used her martial arts moves to bring down the giantess Nikki to her knees and in tears. That's the Lili I like!
YES! YES! YES! me too. The spoiled I'm better than you are brat needs to be taught a lesson and little flower girl Lili is just the one to do it. Maybe Nikki will think twice next time.
Niecie in MD---YES!!!!!! Wouldn't it be great to see sweet Little Orchid kick Roller Boy's A$$ if he stepped out of line. I would be cheering non stop for at least five
minutes if that happened.
And finally, Victoria in Texas---
I don't like it when she gets agressive with Nikki.
Well then, when the disgusting spoiled princess learns to treat others with respect and not as garbage in the street, the agressive action will stop. Lili is a super sweet young lady but also she is not going to be walked on---even by a spoiled princess brat.
I have said it before, I am not 100% anti Nikki. When she starts to mellow a little and begins treating others with a little respect instead of looking down her nose towards everyone who wasn't fed with a silver spoon, then I will move into the Nikki camp but until then-----
the gringo
I'm a bit surprised that:
"...Nikky/Guzmán bore me..."
For some reason I find myself almost purring whenever they are getting along. For me there is something magical between them. Not quite the same as Coni and Beto (Gancho) or Iletia and Brandon (LldA), but very pleasant. As for Nikki, her defiant yet insecure naughtiness makes her an intriguing character.
The Vikki/Ángel thing for me is disturbing for the obvious reason, but the snails have spoken so I'm along for the ride.
Carlos
Take heart. There are still some people on Nikki's side with Guzmi : )
I liked Carlos' reasoning about Nikki and Guzmi. They are meant to be together, but I wish Nikki weren't so rude, and I think with time and some maturing Nikki will stop being so bratty.
About Lili, I do like the strong Lili. She has a lot of common sense, but I see a parallel with Nikki when it comes to men. Don't shoot me yet, I mean about other men besides Guzmi. Both seem to really like Roy, and look what kind of a putz he is. Jus' sayin'. So to be a bit on both sides, I think Nikki is using Roy to get back at Guzmi who she thinks is a bad hat. Lil Orchid just don't know much bout Roy. She really hasn't been around him. She is trying to be a bit adventurous cause she knows Guzmi only wants to be her friend. So I am cutting both some slack until later.
Aribeth - thanks for the trailer. It's fun to compare these productions.
Jarocha - thanks for sharing your take on this TN. I too have no interest in the Rulli plot as I can't tolerate Nikki (sorry Victoria) and it does pain me b/c he is so handsome. I also won't be able to enjoy Vicky and JA until he is no longer married.
LOL---You said it great. How can you go against the snails?
the gringo
Carlos- You said it perfectly, "For me there is something magical between them."
Madelaine- "Take heart. There are still some people on Nikki's side with Guzmi." I know, I know, but not enough in my opinion. I really can't wait for Nikki to come into her true character/true self and show everyone.
Karen- "I too have no interest in the Rulli plot as I can't tolerate Nikki." Pained me, you have to at least agree with Carlos that she adds to the novela as an "intriguing character." :/
VIVE Team Nikki/Guzmancito... UNTIL THE VERY END!
Don't fire me. I'd like to be invited back. LOL
I adore Nikki, sorry. She's a brat, but she has a style, and I'm always moved by the rare moments when she shows her sweet, caring side. :) I don't mind it when Lili kicks her ass because she deserves it, though Lili's "I'm a tough country girl and I'll defend myself against a snarky 90 lbs woman" act is getting old, too.
I see the magic between Guzmi and Neta, but the writing is still poor and lousy as hell. That's my problem with them.
But Victoria, don't worry, there are many people on the internet who love them! :) They're a big deal on Facebook, the Nikki & Francisco groups have thousands of likes. They are obviously loved by the audience.
(And unfortunately, they have a bunch of annoying fans who act like people in Mexico only watch the show for Guzmi and Nikki. Nevermind that the Victoria/Arriaga episodes always get higher ratings.)
I rewatched the episode: the room number DID change often, LOL. And God, Balzac, Estefano and Jean Marie are too cute to bear, luvluvluv. :)
Now I go and watch Game of Thrones before work. I'm so fed up with this freezing spring and my headache that I need some blood, intrigue and violence.
Karen: I actually like Nikky, it's just that I can't take her seriously. I have the same problem with her that I have with Liliana, she is too over the top. Nobody speaks like that in real life, that should be left to parodies of fresas in comedic telenovelas. Eiza is fresa in real life, the director should have just told her to speak as she naturally would. I'll blame that on Garcini (the director) because I'm not his biggest fan at all.
That said, I do enjoy this novela overall. I think the slower pace (this was episode 45/46 I think in the Azteca version) helps to add complexity to the Victoria/Arriaga relationship because it has made their feelings deeper and it makes it seem like their situation is threaded more carefully, which should be the case since they are both married. I felt more for Arriaga in these episodes because the situation he is in is so complicated how he has handled so many things wrong regarding his marriage but I can't blame him for having feelings and dwell in the pain of seeing Victoria hurt.
Aribeth: I know what you mean about internet fans. The truth of the matter is that the internet in Mexico doesn't really relect that well what the overall audiences enjoy. Less than 40% people in Mexico have access to internet in their homes ( internet here is quite expensive and slow ) and the usual novela pages attract the younger audiences mostly. I'd say social networks work great to get feedback when you are doing a novela made for a younger audience but not so much when you have a mature couple.
Jarocha
Cynderella, this was light hearted and flat out hilarious! So many of your wonderful lines have already been quoted but my favs included "Roy tells Nikki that he almost couldn’t sleep last night.." and "The doctor assures Arriaga that Victoria is doing well, but not well enough to have sex yet (I just threw that in)". Great fun - thanks so much.
Lie detector tests? Santino is in for a rough patch here. Also, when all is said and done WILL Bea forgive him when it's discovered he kidnapped Francisco's love of his life?? I'm wondering..
I hope JA puts some movement behind his words and pummels Nelson at the next opportunity.
I'm conflicted in that I am pulling for JA and Vicky although Cris' subdued demeanor is pulling on my heartstrings.
Great comments all. Glad to see your comments Karen! Missed seeing your posts.
Diana
I agree about the writing of the storyline with "Goodytwoshoes" and bratty Nikki but I adore the confidence she carries with that character even though seriously hidden she has emotional issues. Oh and I love her outfits... to die for.
It's me Victoria in Texas
Had to do it anonymous, for some reason my smartphone wont let me enter my Google acct. Weird.
Team Nikki/Guzmancito
Sometimes the smartphones don't work on Blogger. Noone knows why. It isn't your phone it is google.
Cynderella,
Of course you aren't fired. You'll get a chance to recap again : )
Thanks so much for the link, of the trailer. It was excellent. The orginal Columbian version seems to have younger actors, but I am really liking this version.
Diana- "I'm conflicted in that I am pulling for JA and Vicky although Cris' subdued demeanor is pulling on my heartstrings." I'm right there with you. It's hard for me to get caught up with Victoria/Arriaga because of Cristina. I feel so much sympathy for her ever since she turned her jealous rage into being sad/calm/depressed. It just proves she had EVERY reason to be concerned about Arriaga being Victoria's bodyguard. I can't believe I went from not being able to stand Cristina to now hoping that she as some alternative to her own happiness (how the heck did I end up here), but I doubt it because she is still in love with Arriaga.
Ok I don't know what the H E double hockey sticks is going on but me and "Caray, Caray" are not getting along today for some reason.
Team Nikki/Guzmancito
Madelaine: you're welcome!
Actually, the Colombian version isn't the original one. This is how the timeline looks like:
1. Argentina, 2005, 210 episodes
2. Mexico (the Azteca version), 2005-2006, 280 episodes
3. Colombia, 2009-2010, 251 episodes
This is the original: AEC Argentina
Dios mío, I just realized that the actress who played Lili used to play a huge brat in Kachorra, which is one of my favourite telenovelas. She was the Nikki of that show.
But nobody could make me believe that Osvaldo Laport (Aguirre-Arriaga) was younger than Soledad Silveryra (Paz-Vicky).
One more thing: the original Lili's called Tatiana. :)
And this is the Azteca version.
I mean ten years younger.
I took a look at the links you put up for other versions of this TN. I liked the Angel character in the Columbian and Argentina versions but not the Azteca one. All the Vikki's were great. I didn't like the glasses on the Vikki in the Argentina version. Too light colored. But I had to laugh at the book the Argentina Vikki was reading "Madame Bovary" lol. All the Nelson's were like this one except the one in the Columbian version, he was actually, dare I say it, "hawt". Also I can't believe I saw Lissett, who always plays really nice women on Telvisia TN's as the Kendho character in the Azteca version, oh the horror, lol.
Huge sigh. Thank you!
Diana
Thanks for the link of the "Sleeping Hulk", and I am so with Diana, sigh!!!!!
Also loved the accent of the Argentina version. It is like a mix of Spanish, from Spain, the accent that is and Italian. I love to listen to it : )
I think the nickname Ratiana works better with Tatiana than with Liliana.
Jarocha
My friend are huge fans of the Colombian version because of Alejandra Borrero and Ernesto Calzadilla.
Besides the popular 'just what a daughter wants to hear..' line, i loved
Arriaga just wanted her to know what’s happening in his pants (Pardon me…his heart).
but the whole recap was so enjoyable!! don't ever go away... we need your humor here.
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