Friday, December 27, 2013
Lo Que La Vida Me Robo, Capitulos 28 + 29, 12/26/13 - All Roads Lead To Hacienda Almonte
Greetings from recappers Elna June and Novela Maven.
Following please find a VERY long recap. These episodes were absolutely action packed and we compressed them as much as possible, but...
You will need a pot of coffee with which to read these recaps. A cup will never do.
Elna June, on behalf of myself and the INCOMPARABLE Novela Maven
What marvelous, detailed prose you both wrote! This whole recap is fantastic! I love both your styles and they so compliment each other. You Ladies are the bomb ; )
That dinner was a hoot and then some. I really laughed throughout that dinner. Esme is another frank talker, lol. She never hesitated one bit! I don't like Amelia either. I am liking Angie (Angelica), she is another great character. I hope there is some cure for her.
Ale never learns. All this mad face, you lie, no you lie, between Monse and Ale drives me up the wall. I am glad though, that Monse finally admitted to Nadia, that yes, she has feelings for Ale, at least that is a step, but Monse and Ale both need to clear up these misunderstandings and Monse needs to fess up too, she isn't totally blameless here.
So Pedro isn't liking women, I still don't get the gay vibe from him. I hope they do some backstory on him to find out what his problem is. Great of Nadia to stand up to him and go visit Monse anyways. Good for her.
I was glad that Monse was able to put Bitch Maria in her place, like how Tia Lottie is doing it too, without interference from Ale.
Victor and Nadia do make a great couple.
I am sick of JL. He really is a coward. I wonder how Monse even still loves this guy. I do like Refugio though. He is trying to be the voice of reason, but JL won't listen. I don't like the fact that JL is constantly pressuring Monse to go with him. Maybe this will be her wakeup call, that he left without saying goodbye.
Tomas is a real older brother isn't he? He is rough with Josie though, and something I don't like. But he does have her best interests at heart. Dimwit and Addy are the true Dumb and Dumbest. I hope they never get that combination to the safe.
Angie really does have it bad for JL. Can't wait to see what happens there.
Gracie it seems gets off on the idea of money. It really wasn't Juvie it was the thought of all that lovely lana. I hope she ends up poor and out on the street, would serve her right. I too wonder how she knows Amelia? Hmmmm......
Thanks so much Ladies for this fab recap and all the time it took to write it. It was a delight to read and thanks so much for the cast of characters.
I like how everyone is converging on the hacienda. It's kind of like a traditional mystery, everyone's got a secret. Except Esmarelda of course because she happily tells all.
Cap'n Sylvia, I also like the converging of all of these characters at the hacienda. It does have that mystery feel to it.
Madelaine, I agree with you that JL has pegged himself as a coward and hope that his departure sin despedida does further alienate him from Montse.
It seems that Angelica is seriously ill and may not have a long life ahead of her. Are they hitting us over the head with a name like "Angelica"? Anyway, I like her character whose urgency and naivete are stirring the pot.
Creepy Uncle Juvie sniffing the underwear was so absolutely disgusting.
I like that Ale is trying to prove his innocence to Montse with the "witnesses" he has provided at this get-together at the hacienda. What I don't like is his obnoxious attitude towards her and demeaning her by involving staff in his desire to monitor and control her.
Angelica is the counterpart of Kika Edgar's character in AR. Not beautiful, but with the potential to look better with some effort. Also sickly, but with a different sickness (I think).
Amelia is played by the same actress who was the pathetic Paloma in Teresa. For the moment I suspect that she and Graciela were classmates once upon a time.
As to Graciela's "spiritual retreats"? I think that's a crock. She might have been spending the family fortune on Hot Young Guys who don't shrink from boinking older women for money.
Tomas is right on the case and I like his approach. That role was previously played in AR by Luis Xavier, who is playing Joaquin.
You can tell me a story any time you like. You draw me in from the very beginning and no matter how long the tale may be, you leave me wishing there were more.
[One hopes that our combined verbosity does not overwhelm Blogger, and that Melinama does not take away our posting privileges -- or send us to sit in the corner table of The Patio and think about what we have done.
Maybe we should have added a warning: Do not read this on your phone unless you have a charger handy.]
It's funny that you were thinking Goldilocks. I myself was thinking that the choza looked like a collaboration between the First and Second Little Pigs.
Urban, the actress playing Amelia (Isabella Camil) was also seen in Abismo de Pasión as Irritating Ingrid. Of course she looks a bit different without her Yeshiva boy side curls.
Padre Anselmo's calling JL a coward seems to have stuck. But then what are we to do with the fact that he saved Alejandro's life? Or that he refuses to be intimidated by Juventino? He's a complicated guy. A very sweaty complicated guy.
Oh boy are they ever hitting us over the head with the name Angélica.
I think they made it clear that she has terminal cancer and has decided that in the short time left to her on this earth, she is not going to be held back by middle-class ideas of social propriety. It will be great if she manages to turn JL's head -- that's about the only way Montse is ever going to get past him.
I'm glad we were able to put you to sleep. "Better than Seconal" -- that's our new motto!
[NM snorts in an unladylike fashion, then asks Esmeralda to scooch over on the couch.]
"The biggest problem this recapper has with your last statement is that you seem to believe your own publicity—that you are a paragon of truth. There is a name for this problem – h-y-p-o-c-r-i-s-y!"
Well said. And I loved how you shared your delight in the Josefina, Dimitrio, Tomás scene, noting that they are all such great actors. Felt like we were together on the family room couch, discussing the goings-on during the commercial breaks.
And Robledo "trussed into his spiffy pale blue uniform" just cracked me up. Come to think of it, the actor just look a bit "trussed", no matter what outfit he's in.
And who knew NovelaMaven was an ESPN watcher? (does she never sleep?).
"You can't control your destiny. That's why it's called destiny. *NFL commentator Bob Costas, in a rare moment of home truth".
Simply loving the literary feast this morning. Sweaty and Dopey (oh my, and who's Snow White?...the lovely Montserrat?) and the heading IS IT TRUE WHAT THEY SAY ABOUT PEDRO?. Wonderful, wonderful.And a lot more, but I'm still too hung over from Christmas to muster the energy to note it. Diana, help me out!
Catching up on recaps and videos after another debilitating Christmas (the 8 hour trips there and back, combined with rich food and wine age me by about a decade), but enjoying every minute.
Thank you Gloria, Urban Anthropologist and Eli also for helping me get back in the flow with your helpful details and delightful prose. We 9pm folks are truly spoiled by our first rate recapping team.
I will try to be a higher caliber commenter when I recover more from the festivities.
You are so right about JL, amiga. He did save Ale's life and he is onto Juvie. He can't exactly come out and tell Ale who he really is either. And if he did, he'd be back in la carcel and could he really prove his innocence? I guess I mean toward Monse, in the beginning he was too afraid to face her Papa. Now he is always pushing her to run away and damn the consequences. This little journey of his to the hacienda has taught him some things though. Especially about Ale, I'm thinking.
I wonder if JL is onto Bitchy Maria. I watched his face closely as she was trying to get the goods on him, so to speak, about not having the experience to be a capataz, and then she just threw in that line about la patrona. Did he know her? He boldly looked into her eyes and said no, he didn't even flinch. Since he knows that she is Juvie's niece, maybe he is onto her fishing expedition.
Juvie is a major perv. His sliming all over Esme, being in Monse's room and stealing her unmentionable. Why in the world didn't Tia Lottie tell Monse about finding Juvie in her room, so Monse could lock her door. And how is he having the run of the house? Creepy.
I wonder if Amelia was another of Benny's women or knew that Gracie was? Just a theory, not a spoiler. Maybe that's how they know each other.
Both Amelia and Joaquín knew Graciela was after Ben's money, so I assume that means they knew she was his mistress.
Amelia even mentioned in passing that she was the one responsible for introducing Graciela to Benjamín.
I think José Luis is quite leery of María -- he knows she's Montse's enemy and rival. And he is suspicious of her because she is Juventino's niece. He is quite willing to milk her for information (for example, the fact that Juv knows he's a good shot, a thing he can only know because he was one of the masked bandits in the shoot-out with him the other day) while she thinks she is the one spying on him.
JL hasn't behaved like a "gentleman" with Montserrat. A gentleman would "dar la cara" with her family. A gentleman wouldn't assume a false identity and skulk in the shadows to be near his woman.
What Padre Anselmo and Carlota and now, Montserrat herself, are calling "cowardice" is a failure to act up to a chivalric code.
Great point about Juventino -- why on earth is he permitted access to the Big House? There is no reason for him to be there and plenty of reason to keep him out.
It was my son (visiting for the holiday) who mentioned the Bob Costas thing. I was so delighted by it that I just had to use it in the recap.
I simply purr at any words of praise from you, as you know. Thank you. And may I say that you chose to highlight some of my very favorite lines from EJ's part of the recap. (I always have so much trouble choosing from the embarrassment of riches she offers us.) How lucky we all are to have you as a reader and commenter and even, now and again, as a returning recapper.
You'd think that by now Monsy would notice that her underwear drawer was a little light. What would Ale do if he knew Maria had rummaged in there? Probably just say, well, what do you expect when you bring so many things you don't need.
And speaking of Monsy, she has a fantastic wardrobe that she wears so well.
My heroine: Esme who just tells the plain truth. Yes, I'm a dancer - not a ballerina - but, the other kind.
Elna June: Absolutely fabulous. “channeling his inner beast”, “ nearly impossible cognitive leap” and “The biggest problem this recapper has with your last statement is that you seem to believe your own publicity—that you are a paragon of truth. There is a name for this problem – h-y-p-o-c-r-i-s-y!” were fantastic. Well thought out, insightful and great fun.
I want to like Ale. I mean, he is Sebastian Rulli, after all! But, I can’t quite get there: “Caveman Ale-Grock says that it better not happen because he would leave no stone unturned, he would spend every last penny of his money to find her”. Indeed. As though she were “his”, “his property”. Ack. Blech.
Novela Maven: I continue to be in awe of your exceptional talent. Your phrases are well, refreshing and delightful. "An excursion to a very foul place", "Graciela's eye --> mind", "Juventino's salacious whispers in the confessional...Alejandro's death...a boon to them both...",
"And if possible, an even fouler place..." were spectacular.
The plots thicken. An interesting independent forward-thinking potential love interest for JL (under the unfortunate cloud of ill heath); Monse and Ale continue their dance of mis and non communication; Esme and Refugio still apart and poor Josefina experiencing yet another heartache with the knowledge her marriage to Dimitrio is a sham.
Two truly cringeworthy moments. Graciela fantasizing about Juvie and "Juventino rummages through Montse's delicates, pulls out some undies and sniffs". Oh dear. I fear that image is indelibly seared in my brain. Again, is this really the same, handsome shashbuckler that made our hearts (and Jimena's) race in Pasion? Great actor - hideous character.
Welcome back Judy! Glad you have returned yet sorry you had such a long journey. You have been sorely missed. Amiga, you hit many of the highlights in your excellent comment. You are spot on in noting these rich recaps were like eating dessert! They were indeed...
Wonderful comments all. Thank you to all of the recappers who give so generously of themselves and their valuable time, particularly at this, the most precious and busiest of times.
I like Angie. Since JL is doomed, and she’s doomed, then they make a great pair. JL should just go with it. She seems much more fun and down to earth than Monse.
What a great dinner party. I too was expecting someone to fall dead at the table or somewhere in the house, and propel us into an Agatha Christie-like murder mystery. Loved Esme’s and Angie’s frankness at the table. Didn’t those two make a great male fantasy, riding together astride a horse through the countryside?
When I mentioned Fina’s big brother coming to knock heads yesterday, I didn’t expect it to happen so soon! Wow, he just blew Dumb and Dumber’s plan right out of the water before they got their hands on any cash. What will Fina do next? Will she reveal that she knows what the boys did and are up to, or will she play along some more and turn the tables on them?
It looks like this show is moving along nicely. Some events and characters are similar to Amor Real, while others are different. There was a neighboring family with two daughters. The guy playing the father was Josefina's blustering brother in AR. The scenario with Matilde's brother, Josefina, and her brother was the same way.
In AR, two events happened that brought the leads together and bad them making love all over the hacienda.. First, Matilde was hurt while pleading with Manuel to let her go home while he was on a horse. Being a doctor, he cared for her wounds and was deeply contrite for causing her injury. Then, Manuel was shot by a henchman of the bad hacienda worker ,and Matilde was very upset and cared for him. The housekeeper entered the bedroom to care for Manuel, and she and Matilde had a full-on cat fight before Tia dragged the housekeeper kicking and screaming from the room and Rosario and Matilde locked her out !!
Wow, that was some epic undie sniffage going on last night. I thought TioJuvePervi was about to make soup out of Monse's dainties, if only he knew how to cook. (And yes, isn't she wondering about her disappearing wardrobe?)
"(hairspray? really?)"...I thought the same thing. Hard to imagine any hairspray wouldn't melt in that heat.
"He leaves her and her Wonderbra alone, with nary a soul to stare at her cleavage." The Patio truly howled at that one.
I like the casting of Isabella Camil and Ilithya Manzanilla as mother and daughter. I have always thought they looked very much alike.
OK, I was a little surprised that Gracie had a mini fantasy about Juvie. Super Blech. But then again, what can we expect from a grown woman who wears bows on her ankles?
A big welcome back to JudyB and Susanlynn. You ladies are always missed.
Some great lines in the episodes but I think the most entertaining and best delivered was by Graciela in the clothing store. I knew almost exactly what she was going to say before she said it and it still made me laugh out loud:
"What's the latest thing in black?"
What a great character.
Do any of Ximena's fans from Gancho see some of the same similarities between Josefina and Ximena? Both are endearingly ingenuous and innocent...making one long to protect them from the world as well as themselves. Didn't you just want to hug her when she meekly confessed?:
"I have never had many, well, any, boyfriends."
While her brother may have seemed a little rough, I felt that I could see his exasperated love for her... he has been her brother for all these years after all.
I so enjoyed María playing cat and mouse with JL.
That dinner was wonderful, good food, interesting guests, and fascinating conversation.
And how good is having Ingrid AdP back?
Anyone else surprised at the preponderance of blondes in this series? Whoever thought that up, gracias.
And. I knew Pedro didn't like the ladies. He's an a$$hole, sadist and megalomaniac too, which are separate issues but I just knew he had to have other tastes to so cruelly reject the beautiful Nadia. Can Nadia get an annulment? Not necessarily because he's rumored to be gay but because the marriage has not been consummated?
Thank you Elna June and NovelaMaven once again and I look forward to comments to help me understand these chock-full episodes.
I'm sick as a dog - head ache, sore throat - not a pretty sight, but I did manage to stay up to date with Robo, because I simply love it! The trio of Finita, Dimi and Adofito is hilarious and Tomas will only complicate things for the newly weds. I can't wait.
I'm also enjoying Nadia and Victor, Refugio and Esmeralda are great sidekicks, Juvie and Maria are awfully good in their evilness... there is not a plot that I don't enjoy.
These two episodes have been very good, the dinner scene was especially funny.
I don't really like Angelica - the actress doesn't seem very good to me, but whatever takes JL away from Montse is FINE.
It looks like our main couple takes one step forward and two steps back each episode.
I wonder how much longer they plan to go on with the misunderstandings. I'm beginning to lose track of who knows what and who is lying about what.
Montse is a hypocrite, Ale is a bully (to say the least) - a match made in telenovela heaven.
I am just now getting ready to read/respond to comments and to have a cuppa Joe.
But even before I start, I must give a bow to my partner in this effort, Novela Maven.
Really, her recap is genius, isn't it? I got a sneak preview when I posted it and I was WOWED.
I want to hear a large hand of praise for our Maven of Novelas. (Riotous and long applause ensues. Hundreds of harmless fruit and vegetable shaped nerfazos are tossed in the air and rain bouncing on the gathered crowd on the Patio).
Novela Maven, you are simply brilliant. It is a pleasure to work with you.
Back with you in a moment, amigos.
Juvenino would almost be cuddly were it not for a few major character flaws and some recent acting out.
María is cuddly but largely misunderstood by most of the crowd here on the patio. I think that she is redeemable (maybe if she'd just get that headband...).
Pedro is just not any fun at all and is probably worse than any of us even imagine.
Thanks for the recaps EJ and Novels Maven!
I agree that Pedro is the worst. Maybe because we don't yet know WHY he is such a monumental a$$hat.
I sometimes give Maria a hall pass because Ale is so dense in his relationship with her. He is inconsistent which is the worst way to deal with an obsessive fan. One minute he tells her she is his sister, then next he is flaunting her in front of his neighbors and the other staff.
Carlos, every episode I thank the telenovela gods that Juvie is in this show. However, he has murdered too many fruits to be redeemed. Hey Juvie, didn't you know that when life gives you a mushed mango it's time to make a smoothie?!?
Now, I love me some AleMon,their flaws and mind-numbing dance-arounds do entertain ( and they look so good doing it), but I am absolutely loving and enjoying the whole plot line, and acting, with Dim and Fina. And now the brother gets thrown into the story...just superb!!
I do have to admit that I yelled out in agaony "ARGH, Paloma!!" last night seeing Angie's mom. She better watch out when crossing streets for those oncoming cars. Did I see that right she actually was feeding her daughter something...that was sort of creepy and weird.
Pedro is an ass. This guy will be fun to plan a possible demise for. What the heck did Nadia see in this creep?
I'm rather liking this gathering of characters at the ranch. At least it shortens the amount of time we have to watch Maria being her usual bitchy self. Little of her is starting to go a long way. Sorry Carlos, but I'm not sure even a headband would help at this point.Redeemable you think? Not so sure, but I guess we'll see. Don't think she likes seeing how Ale fits in so comfortably with the "crowd".
Ale telling Montse to make nice for their guests and save the hysterics for when there's just the two of them - lol.
I vote that Pedro isn't gay. He's so mean, I think his secret is something dark. The real mystery is why Nadia stays with him, with or without sex. Hers is not a case of "Can This Marriage Be Saved?" but "Just Get the Hell Out Already!"
I'm counting on Esme to tell JL and Refugio what she knows of Juventino. Just realized that Proud Pole Dancer Esme is the only working woman in this TN outside of the domestics Rosario and Maria.
You have no idea how daunting it is to partner with you, my genius friend. ( I did feel a little safer, however, knowing I'd be the horse's rear end and you would lead the way.) I am, as always, bowled over by your writing.
Okay. We have to stop now. Some of the bad girls in the back row are snickering at us. What was that? Get a room!.
Thank you to all those who enjoyed the recap(s)and commented. I was so happy to see that some of our regular denizens of the Patio are back in town after the Holidays.
So much happened last night that I can hardly get my head around it. A few random thoughts are passing through my head this morning:
1. To UA's point, What is with all the blondes in this show? Are there that many blondes in all Campeche?
2. I am not sure that Pedro is gay, even thought that was clearly Esme's read on the situation. Another way to read this is that Pedro is a true, old-fashioned misogynist—he literally may not like women. Like Carlos, I see him as a sadist and he probably has problems with potency. The writers are just not giving him the gay vibe, as Mads mentioned.
I would welcome a realistic portrayal of a gay character in a telenovela. When gay men are portrayed they are usually absurd comic foils.
3. Angelica. Hmmm. Yep, writers, hit us over the head with her future as a celestial being. She is brave and vital and clearly tragic. Only tragedy (or lust) would explain her instant adoration of the Sweaty One. There are plenty of ways to play out THIS development.
4. How does Amelia know Graciela? That will be fun to discover.
5. Why does Graciela need something new in black?
6. How will Josefina get back at Dimmy and Adolfito? Give that girl a new best friend who can give her some sage advice and pull off the prosthetic unibrow. (THAT will leave a mark. Spirit gum is strong stuff).
7. I am tired of Nadia being Pedro's victim. Perhaps she can just stay at Hacienda Almonte.
8. Why do we keep hearing about how well JL/Ant rides a horse? An odd point, that. Having grown up riding myself, there is no way to fake the skill. Where did JL/Ant learn to ride? I wouldn't think there would be a lot of work in the Navy for a skilled horseman.
9.Carlos de la Mota really is doing a great job with the Refugio/Renato character, even if he is playing it a little broad. The only time Luis Roberto Guzman lights up onscreen is on his scenes with de la Mota. Those two really DO have great chemistry.
10. I am not amused by Alejandro's caveman routine. Not amused at all.
11. The sooner Rosario tells the truth to Alejandro, the better.
Adriana, I hope you feel better soon. Both my daughter and son-in-law arrived here with colds.
"Sweaty, humorless, and intense,...yikes. those three adjectives probably would not be good choices to use for an online dating site.
Carlos, MalMaria IS wearing a headband, but as someone noted at an earlier date, it has slipped beneath her bust. Now, that's an interesting look....more like a "look-at-my-bust" look.
Moneymoney reminds me alternately of a teeny tiny Barbie doll and a Tinkerbelle with her short, puffy , colorful skirts and her silky , blonde locks.
I'm so glad you enjoyed the recap. I also enjoyed Esmeralda and thought she stole more than one scene, even when she had no lines.
Remember how she kind of tilts her head and almost rolls her eyes when Nadia tells Robledo that Pedro didn't come with her to the hacienda because he is so busy? She is just the best reactor!
Your exquisitely composed comments are like little gifts every single day -- gifts chosen by a friend who knows just what will delight. Thank you so much for your generosity of spirit and time.
A less likable actor than Rulli would have us all hurling our mango nerfazos at the screen by now. But he manages to suggest -- despite all the evidence to the contrary -- that within the breast of the macho bully, beats a tender heart who only asks to be loved back.
Thank you for the kind words. I also noticed how Montserrat turned the conversation with Nadia to her own problems and didn't really give her friend a chance to talk. Thanks for pointing it out. Maybe this will make Nadia more receptive to Victor's overtures of friendship -- the poor woman needs someone --anyone -- to confide in.
"what can we expect from a grown woman who wears bows on her ankles?"
[snort!] Nothing good, amiga, nothing good.
These last two chapters were just crazy good. I loved them. Kudos really to everyone, cast and crew, who contributed.
Loved how the show got cracked open, after some claustrophobic installments. Terrific to see so many faces and characters at the Hacienda. Really, really well done -- suspenseful, engaging and funny.
"What is an oncologist?" "I will explain it to you after dinner." Really great stuff. Esmeralda at the table was also fantastic.
And Hurrah for Josefina's brother Tomas! Loved him and how that scheme went down in flames.
Monse can't admit that she's longing to hop into bed with her hubcab so she contrives reasons and excuses to keep them apart. And Ale is still hurt and angry beyond measure over the crushing disappointment he experienced on his wedding day. He insists on his "everyone is equal here so we all have to endure the dreadfully disruptive Maria" as a way of punishing Monse and asserting his power over her and the estate.
This'll go on and on in somewhat tedious novela style, como todos sabemos, until we finally get the long awaited passion explosion. LOL. (I am enjoying stern, no-nonsense Ale getting to the bottom of things as a means of getting Monse to stop with all the wailing and whining.)
The reveal that I'm really most wanting to see is the one between Rosario and her son. The two actors are great together -- very natural and fresh -- and, for me, right now, this is the real love story. Rosie has quickly become my favorite character.
The intro of the new characters was very well done. Only complaint would be that I can't quite figure out how the neighboring estancia family would not have heard of the death of Don Benjamin -- Minor quibble. Like that Angelica is not sickly sweet -- that helps the medicine go down. And I'd like to JL happier.
I can see Monse being afraid of him. She's locked in a house and EVERYONE is watching her because he pays them. She can't go home because her family betrayed her. She would have to run and hide for the rest of her life if she left with her boyfriend. Her husband acts like a raving lunatic around her and her threatens her daily. I could see her being afraid of him.
Pedro is probably evil because he has to pretend to be what he is not. He is "forced" to be with a woman when he really wants to be with a man. I could see him being resentful and angry. I don't like him because he is just down right EVIL. He is not attracted to her and yet is "forced" to be with her to remain successful.
It is so good to have you back!
You know, I think Graciela is as wicked as they come, every bit as evil as Juventino. Don't let the Shirley Temple anklets fool you!
How lovely to know that one of my favorite recappers and the most gracious gentleman on The Patio enjoyed the show today -- the one here and the one on tv. (Actually, I think it is very telling that these double episodes are fun to watch. Unless a novela is very, very good, a double really drags.)
You are too sweet! I hope you are feeling better very soon. Clearly your wit is unaffected by your illness:
"Montse is a hypocrite, Ale is a bully (to say the least) - a match made in telenovela heaven."
I loved the dinner table scene too. Hey, thanks for stopping by.
Thanks so much! I really liked what you wrote:
"Now, I love me some AleMon,their flaws and mind-numbing dance-arounds do entertain ( and they look so good doing it), but I am absolutely loving and enjoying the whole plot line, and acting, with Dim and Fina. And now the brother gets thrown into the story...just superb!!"
Thank you! And I agree with every point you made:
Great line from Alejandro -- "save the hysterics for when we're alone."
"[Nadia's] is not a case of "Can This Marriage Be Saved?" but "Just Get the Hell Out Already!"
Amen. I am still unsure of Pedro's sexual proclivities but I continue to be intrigued by his stammer. I'd love to learn the backstory.
And your last point is one I hadn't even considered:
"Proud Pole Dancer Esme is the only working woman in this TN outside of the domestics Rosario and Maria."
Great point about the Arechigas missing Don Ben's obit. Beanie moment, anyone?
Carlos and all who love Isabella Camil, yippee! The scam artist, worst mother and best lover of Gabino Mendoza of ADP is back and she has not (yet) been buried alive! So much to look forward to...
Adriana Noel: I am so sorry to hear you are unwell. My daughter just got back yesterday from visiting her in-laws in Chicago. She brought home a dreadful Illinois cold to share, as she said, with California.
Eat hot chicken soup and sleep a lot is my best advice for those who suffer. Make people be nice to you. Carlos may have a more magic potion to offer those with seasonal ailments—I am thinking he likes a good hot rum toddy...
Pasofino, I appreciated this comment:
'You'd think that by now Monsy would notice that her underwear drawer was a little light.' That made me LOL. Also, do I not remember that you are a horsewoman? What do you make of the comments on JL's ability to ride like Jackie Kennedy?
Susanlynn: Montserrat does look like a short legged Barbie! Great call. Boyer has quite an unusual appearance, doesn't she?
Thank you for your kind words and insightful comment. I especially liked this part:
"He insists on his "everyone is equal here so we all have to endure the dreadfully disruptive Maria" as a way of punishing Monse and asserting his power over her and the estate."
Wasn't it brilliant to show that visually with the seating at the dinner table? Alejandro is at the head with María and Montserrat flanking him, sort of like co-wives. (Of course we needed the dreadful Amelia to verbalize what all the new characters were thinking -- the incongruity of having one of the servidumbre in pride of place at the table.
Yes, I love Ale and agree NM that "he manages to suggest -- despite all the evidence to the contrary -- that within the breast of the macho bully, beats a tender heart who only asks to be loved back." And yes, Cynderella poor guy is horny! Hee Hee!
That scene at the dinner table last night was MADE by Esme's unashamed presentation of herself.
And although Refugio seemed shocked to see Esmeralda, He did not seem that dismayed to see his former lady love walking with the support of Victor's strong arm.
I think Refugio's first and last love will always be his friend Jose Luis. You noticed last night when he reminded Jose Luis that they are much more than friends—they are brothers...
I wonder if at some point, someone will confuse Angie with Monse when Angie is in a compromising situation with JL and cause trouble?
I haven't been sick in ages, so now I feel worse than I actually should, I guess. I'm home until after the New Year, so that gives me a lot of novela watching time, but the screen doesn't help my head ache at all!
What's a girl to do?
Elna, Graciela was thinking about buying a new dress in black for Ale's funeral.
I notice most of you think she was turned on by the idea of money, but I actually think it was Pervie. Can you imagine such a lady getting down and dirty with Juventino Pervertino???
Normally, I'd find it disgusting, but there is nothing not to like about this telenovela.
The best parts of this tn so far: AleMon's spectacular fights; Refu&JL bromance (I agree JL is great with Refu, his true co-star); Finita with Dim and Adolfito.
And all the other plots are just as interesting.
1. I am relieved to see blondes for a change; I'm just wondering at why so many all of a sudden. AB looks much better with blonde hair than dark.
2. I don't think Pedro is gay; I think he is just a sadistic, mean, SOB because of something horrible. Maybe an accident that deprived him of his... equipment.
3. I personally think Amelia is a helicopter mother.
4. Amelia and Graciela definitely have something sinister in common.
5. If we remember Juvenpervo's pitch to Graciela, I think she's looking for mourning clothes.
6. I'd love to see her get a makeover and ditch the both of them on their butts.
8. Ditto. Horseback riding can be learned by anyone.
10. Neither am I, but that might be a hazard of remaking a novela de epoca to a contemporary story.
11. I would agree, but my gut says that will take longer than we want it to.
Thanks for joining the conversation. I am also looking forward to the mother and child reunion. The role of Rosario is remarkably well-written (and, as many have already noted, very well-acted). She is evolving before our eyes, standing up to bullies and having the guts to shape events a bit instead of just observing them passively.
While she is squarely on her son's side, she has come to know Montserrat as a good person who has treated her with unfailing kindness from the day she entered the hacienda. So when she suspects that Montse may be betraying her son -- or at least acting in a way contrary to his best interests -- Rosario tries to protect Montse, Alejandro and the marriage.
ITA about Boyer looking great as a blond. I seem to remember reading (somewhere) that Boyer is a natural blonde. That seems likely with the rest of her coloring. Regarding hair color in Latin America, I have seen lots of blondes in Argentina and Uruguay but not so many in Mexico, Central America, Peru, Chile or Ecuador especially in the smaller towns. One sees very few born redheads—the gene for red hair is recessive as I recall.
Help me out with your interesting take on Amelia. What tipped you off that she might be a helicopter mother? Was it the hovering? Hee hee.
Sigh. On Rosario—you are probably right that it will take her forever to claim her place as Ale's mother.
The dinner party was awesome. I love how everyone is converging on the hacienda. Brave of them when there are bandits in the area shooting everyone, and two staff members are currently missing! The swirling conversations all these guests bring, a combination of shocking everyone with new information and cagey secret-keeping, is delightful.
That chozo looks a little too freshly maintained to be a place where no one would think of looking for anyone. Isn't there a handy cave nearby? Refugio really is the most ridiculously loyal friend. I'm not sure JL adequately appreciates him. He only wishes he and Money had the kind of undying love Refugio offers him!
As a baby: http://www.quien.com/espectaculos/2013/04/30/angelique-boyer-la-nina-que-conquisto-mexico
As a kid: http://www.antesydespues.com.ar/angelique-boyer/
I'd get angry too, if people were always coming up to me and touching my hair without permission.
You sparked a bunch of memories for me. My daughter and I are natural blondes and when she was little about 3 1/2 we were stationed in Sicily and women on the street were constantly touching my daughters hair and calling her Bella. At the city open air market, we lived in Santa Agatha, and even in the Catania market she would get free candy all the time. They just love blonde hair in areas of the world where there aren't many.
Adriana...Hope you feel better soon. Advil and bed rest work for me, but when I lived at home, my Dad had a remedy similar to Susanlynn's. He would make lemonade (from scratch, God bless him), heat it up and pour it into a big mug and put a good dollop of whiskey in it. Once you drank that down,all you wanted to go was go sleep and get your germy germs out of the family room! The fresh lemon had lots of Vitamin C, the hot water and sugar soothed and the whiskey was a great soporific. But best of all was the love that came with it. My Dad was just the best to all three of us.
Hope when your husband gets home, instead of being tired and grumpy, he'll be loving and helpful. That's the true healing touch; your immune system will do the rest.
This is such a great, civilized site.
AB looks like a real blonde and had the complexion of such. French descent, right? She has the most beautiful, glowing skin, and the wardrobe department has done her proud. Beautiful clothes always and perfectly tailored. AB has done amazing work. She annoys me but I feel her in every scene.
This novela works for me in large part because, like all Latin American soap operas, it takes over one's brain and makes day to day reality with one's own Ales, Juventinos, Marias, Monseys, and Gracielas possible and better. The whole cray cray Hacienda business over the course of the last several episodes has been beyond amazing -- and I hope garners some noms at Mex. TV awards season.
This is a superb production of a timeless plot. Just wish that I could get ahold of it's two or it three other precursors. They just don't make them like this anymore.
And the fact that this BlogSpot even exists blows my mind -- And that the quality of the recaps and comments is even possible.
I watched Sergio Rulli in Amores Verdadeiros and thought he was handsome as anything but interchangeable. He's been very good in this role. I would wish him a haircut and a lessening of the pink lipstick. He needs none of those. A classic classic galan and I think an actor who is getting better and better. Viva Argentina.
Long because I'm recuperating myself from nothing big and because the all the comments here are so terrific. Happy New Year!
Maria de Andrade...loved your comment about the real love story being between Rosario and Alejandro. Boy, is this actress knocking it out of the park. She always does. Whether funny, annoying, infuriating (past roles) or endearing, she gets it done.
Susanlynn...I see I left out a comma in my comment about my Dad. Forgive me, Teach!
Mads and Vivi...Loved your hair stories. But I also have to note, in Latino countries, people just don't have the same boundaries as we Americans when it comes to touching people. I remember being in Italy (at age 20) and friendly women would just pinch my cheeks and tell me I was soooo pretty. Can you imagine a stranger coming up to you in this country and doing that!? Just a different culture with different rules.
I like, dramatically, that Ale is a cad in his dealings not with Monsey but with Maria. He talks a good game about being her brother but he doesn't treat her honestly and lovingly like a brother. He treats her like a prop and his inability to see how much pain SHE is in is in many ways more egregious than what he's inflicting on his new wife. Classic galan novela business. Irmaos Coragem in Brasil in the 60s did this in a way that turned Br. on its head.
All of this Ale-Maria betrayal feels very very Mexican -- in the best and most dramatic way. Maria has been driven insane out of sexual frustration but in large part because Ale is using her in the most cruel way.
The tantalizing bits about Pedro and his being gay are counterbalanced by the Adolfito-Dimitrio abuse of Josefina. I don't know what the depiction is of homosexuality is on Mexican TV.
Well, I think I might after this. Sergio Sendel is another beautiful creature. Quero mas! But then again Mentiras! E el me compro! etc. Come and get it wholesale ...
I was also happy to see that Tomas got back in time to save his sisters fortune, it was awesome to see Dimibrow have a total and oh so epic meltdown, I hope Josefina gets sweet revenge on those two rat bastards.
María loved him way before he became the patrón.
My sister red hair as did my mother. People were always commenting about my sister's hair. One day, a stranger made a comment about her hair, and she stuck her tongue out at him. My mother was furious and asked her why she did that. Herreply, "Why doesn't anyone ever say anything about my eyes?"
Glad you enjoyed the EJ and NM show!
I'm not so sure about a cave as a hiding place. Ever since Amores verdaderos when Kendra Ferreti was set on by a pack of wolves… Well, okay, Juventino can hide out in a cave when the time comes. But Sweaty and Dopey are better off in the neat Three Little Pigs choza.
On the other hand, it sounds as if there is going to be some heavy traffic at the choza tomorrow -- Loreto meets Juventino, Montse catches out JL and Angélica.
I was also surprised a few days ago when Victor claimed he hadn't heard that Maria's father had died. Isn't that why he was asked to hire a new capataz?
Oh well, the writers are keeping things interesting so far, so I don't mind the lapses.
My favorite moments seem to be duplicates, previously mentioned: the mixed and rather malicious dinner table, Juvie grossing out everyone but himself with Montse's frilly undies, the popularity of the hut by the river, and big bro arriving in time to help Fina.
I was also intrigued by the reveal that Pedro's not likely to be seeing another woman. I also think he has deeper and darker stuff going on--he seems very twisted in some way.
I am trying to catch up on the last few epis, and it's taking a long time because of the nightly 2-hour specials. Haven't read the recap or comments yet, but I can't wait. Hope everyone had a great Christmas!
Going to start reading recap...hasta pronto!
Eli, Karen, Nanette, AuntyAnn, La Paloma -- it was great that you stopped by.
EJ, once more -- it is such a pleasure collaborating with you.
Vivi, I've never had the chance to meet you in person (yet), but I'll bet your million dollar smile might have had a wee bit to do with people taking an instant liking to you.
Maria de Andrade, I have seen Sergio Sendel twice in live productions and he is even more stunning in real life. Great bod, great face, amazing charisma.
EJ and NovelaMaven, just see what you two started! What a terrific tag team you make. Thanks again for the epic recaps of some most interesting episodes.