Friday, January 03, 2014
Lo Que La Vida Me Robo, Capitulo 36 - Dysfunctional Family Conversations and Capitulo 37 - A Fair To Remember 1/3/2014
By Elna June
The first half was written by Elna June and the second half by Novela Maven.
Friends, What if Graciela's dear sociopathic BEBE, Dimitrio, is, along with Alejandro, the child of Don Benjamin? Who knows how long Graciela had been going on those spiritual retreats?
I repeat, this is just a provocative late night thought. I have seen neither 'Bodas de Odio' or 'AR', but I have been thinking about how they are going to make this show 180 capitulos long. That would sure be a twist.
I am wondering about Dim being an Almonte, too. Otherwise, why would Ale's paternity be mentioned now? Graceless, as money hungry as she is, might not want this dirty little secret out. At least, not now.
Continuing with the speculation, what if one day Ale loses the fortune (the bad guys make it seem like he is not an Almonte) and Gracie swoops in with the Dim news?
That lunch or whatever it was - very funny! All the guests chatting their issues all over the house, while the hoasts were supposed to make small talk among themselves.
There is nothing (NOTHING) like telenovela characters gathered to eat; normally the drama happens at the table, but it works just as fine before, apparently :))
I was half afraid Maria would come, too. I can totally see her capable of it.
That giddy smirk on Ale's face when Montse told him she's falling for him .... swoon! The best part about falling in love is when you find out that the other person might feel the same way, too. There is nothing quite like it, in my opnion - real like or reel life.
From NovelaMaven's, my treasured gem is:
Adolfo moans that his ribs are bruised and asks María to come up to his room and treat his injuries. [What injuries? Did he trip and fall over his own sense of entitlement?] Dim grabs a bottle of what looks like tequila -- to soothe the wounds of his soul, he smirks. [As if he had a
Will be back to say more when I've seen this (and when I'm more awake).
But ladies, we salute you. More than a recap, it was literature. Just stellar.
As to whether Alejandro is an Almonte, I don't think we need to worry about that. I'm ready to believe that Rosario was an innocent young woman with little or no history before Don Benjamin raped her. The whole idea about that would be enough to freeze things long enough for Pedro to get his hands on the land he wants unless a very clever lawyer (Victor can help find one) gets involved to demand a DNA test and get the lawyer who drew up the will to testify that Don Benjamin was of sound mind at the time he made out his will. Padre Anselmo will also say so.
We still don't know what period of time Graciela was getting it on with Don Benjamin. Alejandro was born in the women's prison, so he is probably 30. Dimwit is 28 years old, Monserrat 19. Graciela would have had to have been an idiot to not use contraception during the affair, especially if Lauro was away for extended periods of time.
It would be an utter disaster if Dimwit were also Benjamin's offspring (although it would explain his dishonesty and cruelty) because he is so feckless. It could be said that Alejandro takes after his mother while Dimwit after his father (and mother). It would also not be the first novela in which one character has a half-sibling from each of his own parents who have no common DNA and who marry each other after meeting as adults.
That would also jive with the serious criminal activity going on around them. I can easily see Dimwit falling in with these guys (who are light-years smarter than he is) just in the name of his own greed. He can tell Monserrat he loves her, but I don't believe that for a second.
I think she is also starting to realize that, too.
As for Graciela, I would have slapped her flat had she clicked her tongue at me like that. She has no right to play the motherhood card on Monserrat; she forfeited that when she sold her like merchandise.
More later after I've had something to eat.
Why does Pedro always look like he has a bad case of indigestion? I keep waiting for him to belch!
Graciela encouraging Dimitri to become involved with Angelica? They are so low and morally corrupt there are no words for them.
I loved Ale telling Maria to take a hike the next time he sees him talking to his wife. It looks like Ale is finally on to Maria. I also loved Montse hanging on Ale at the fair.
Too bad JL is Ale's rival because he proved he could be an ally and a friend to him. Another reason for him to go asap because Ale is going to feel a double treachery when he finds out that JL AND Montse lied to him.
Bad mistake when JL let it slip he was in the navy.
"Truly, Alejandro shows more skill in his relationships with men than with women." So true...there always seems to be an underlying commonality among some of the characters in TN's and this one sure plays up the bromance factor. Now arguably, some of these guys are cheating on their fellows ( Refugio showed a little jealousy there at JL?), but it is rather cute to watch.
WTH with Maria?? You know, she came off as nothing but a petulant child at that fair more than ever.Interesting to hear she always "chased" Ale even as a child, and I do remember those early scenes with her father. Plus, Ale knows full well how she feels and he still allows her at times to just hang all over him. Drives me batty because, and no spoiler since I never saw the originals, but it's too early in this story to know she gets kicked to the curb and there's the nagging feeling she is going to get her way at some point for awhile. Patio folks--please be warned to keep all glasses, darts and any throwable/breakables out of my reach at that point.
EJ--interesting idea on Dim. Hadn't thought about that. Might make sense why she prefers him and he has NOTHING in common with his "father". Maybe she doesn't even know for sure??
WTH? with JL fessing he was in the Navy. Dude, someone rattle your brain during that fair fight? That will so come back to bite him.
Again, thanks to all our recappers for the double duty this week. You all have been wonderful!!
What, oh what will Alejandro feel and do when he finds out that he has been betrayed by Montse, JL, Gracie, Adolfo, Dimwit, and tia Carlotta? Not to mention that his mother won't come out of the woodwork and declare herself. Oops, I forgot Padre Anselmo. Steadfast in Ale's court is Maria. Well, folks, how about that?
Macario might be the key to the whole story. Medina and Loreto will probably try to make him disappear, too. But, hopefully not before he reveals the Almonte family secrets.
So, what was JL thinking by telling Loreto and Ale that he was a marino? Loreto is going to check that out. What?
Woke up this morning to a continuing blizzard (I'm off work at least!) and your wonderful double recap. Both were fantastically written and incredibly detailed and informative.
Elna June: Among many others, some of my favorites from you were--"In the background, we hear a growly, familiar sound. Is that the sound of a large trashcan being rolled over bumpy cobblestones in the courtyard outside? No, we are hearing the dulcet tones of Graciela Giacinti de Mendoza" I really laughed at this!
And this observation: "Truly, Alejandro shows more skill in his relationships with men than with women." (I'd never thought about this, and it is very true. He thinks he can treat the women in his life like he does the men but is starting to realize it's more complicated)
Novela Maven: Also among many others, some of favorites in yours were this hysterical heading--
"A new player on team Alejandro?"
This witty aside re DIM: "[He could be flirting, attacking or just hiding. I'll pick door number three.]"
And this great observation: "Adolfo stands at a safe distance and hurls Montserrat's stuffed tiger into the battle."
Thanks, too, for the parable of "el perro de las dos tortas" I heard this and had a guess about meaning but wasn't sure until your explanation.
I loved both of these episodes, too. At last, we get some love, tenderness, and movement in the relationship of Ale and Montse!
Both of you are the best. I know how much work it is to recap, and having just finished a double one myself, I was very content this morning to be able to sit back and have the pleasure of reading yours.
Just wanted to say that it seems to me that JL/Ant wants to be outed and just (to quote many of you) doesn't have the avacados to do it. By making slips like telling Ale that he was a cabo he steps closer and closer to being found out without ever really manning up and telling him himself.
Also, I know we are all focused on the fact that Montse is lying to Ale and how this will play out, but I think we should also remember that he is keeping a pretty big whopper to himself: that Graciela was Benjamin's lover. They are both lying to each other still but both are rationalizing their own lies.
This was my favorite moment of the entire epic fight. The evening at the fair was inspired TN action. I'll come back after reading in detail. Looks like a fabulous recap!
Truly superb recaps and a pleasure to read. I loved the quotes of both the authors you put up.
What a couple of episodes! So action and conversation filled. Kudos to both of you for all the detail you gave us in these fantastic recaps.
ITA that JL never should have given out his Navy info. Now Ale will never let that go. He'll be on him like white on rice, until he gets something he wants to hear.
I liked the dissing of BM (Bitch Maria) again. She needs all the comeuppance she gets. She thinks she is all that and a bag of chips when she is overdone pasta!
I really hope Dimi never gets his hands on Angie. Angie isn't into him, but her parents sure are. I don't like that.
Vic and Nadia better be careful where they go smooching. That was a very public place. Loreto could have seen them.
Did anyone else notice that the shooter was wearing a very similar shirt to JL's? If you took a quick glance it looked like JL.
I like that Ale and Monse are growing closer, despite both of their misgivings. I think Monse is pleasantly surprised by Ale. He needs to work on that trust issue.
Glad Juvie finally got kicked out of the hacienda. It's about time already, now if only his niece would join him.
Another ally for Ale has arrived, Marcario. I think Ale is going to need all the allies he can get. I do like the fact that Pedro and Loreto are on the losing end, but they do hold a lot of power. Joaquin helping them out isn't good either.
Thanks again Ladies for your wonderful, awesome recaps.
What is absolutely central for me is the fuse of the dynamite hissing and sizzling right between Montse and Ale: Alejandro knows she has been in contact with JL right under his nose. He has to know how and where, and who was helping her. He'll never trust her if she doesn't tell him the truth. Talk about a pivotal episode, this will be explosive!
Not as weighty but still heavy is the truth Rosario refuses to reveal. I agree with whomever said yesterday that this is a baffling subplot. Didn't Dirtydon Joaquin tell his wife that Pedro thinks Ale is an imposter? Of course, Rosario can clear this up, but why should the word of an "ex-con campesina" be any better than that of a "nouveau riche bastardo"?
On a lighter note, the fight was fun! Adolfo throwing the stuffed tiger was hilarious and then he had the nerve to claim his ribs were bruised? Too funny. Ale continues to be stupid about Maria. I tell you what, this subplot wouldn't have lasted two minutes in my home cause I would've gotten that bitch up off my man and out of my house quick, fast, and in a hurry. Can I get a witness Cynderella?
And it was gratifying to hear JL confirm what I suggested a couple of days ago, that he was falling for Ale! Hee Hee! "I can't leave, he's a damned decent bloke, he is! Under different circumstances we coulda be mates!" (not that kind). I agree with my fellow commenter who noticed that more significant and sincere bonding is going on between the guys! After JL's confession of respect and admiration for Ale, JL may himself have to plead Montse's case with Ale. Wouldn't that be a kick in the head?
Thanks again, so much EJ and NM, for this stellar, satisfying double recap!
Had he married within the ranching community that might be a different deal, but he married someone who appears to be a City Girl.
I have a feeling that Joaquin doesn't know all of Pedro's plans; we need more data.
Alejandro shouldn't be worried about what Monserrat will find out about her mother; at this stage that relationship couldn't get any worse.
Favorite EJ quote: "Is that the sound of a large trashcan being rolled over bumpy cobblestones in the courtyard outside?" OMG EJ you absolutely nailed Gracie's voice. I had such a good laugh over your amazing description. And I'm still laughing.
Favorite NovelaMaven quote: "[Hey, she did say she loves a cockfight.]" Lady you are hilarious. The fight was the best scene of the evening. JL's over reactive nature sure came in handy with his quick kick to the gunman. I loved how Dim and Addled "fought", and how Maria quickly jumped out of the way to save her own skin.
Too bad JL is not as quick with his wit as he is with his kicks. He admitted he was in the Navy? Really? What an ass. And wouldn't that have been on his resume or amongst his qualifications that he presented to Ale? Never mind; I am over analyzing again.
(I also quite enjoyed the wordplay of "the first glowing, the second glowering". Well done amiga.)
Anyhoo, kudos to both EJ and NovelaMaven for the thoroughly entertaining recaps. Thank you!
Finally due to a snow storm I have time to sit down with a nice cup of coffee and enjoy a recap! For once I am glad they had two episodes in one night.
EJ-Great title! Very funny observations, “Truly, Alejandro shows more skill in his relationships with men than with women” Wow, so true! Monse’s knife skills-I cringed, thought she was going to cut herself! Your comments about Graciela’s voice, and the tablecloth draped across her shoulders, (thank you to yesterday’s recapper, too!) I kind of thought dresser scarf, but same diff!
Novela Maven-loved, There is no missing link -- just a couple of Neanderthals roaming the hacienda, dragging their knuckles on the ground; Thank you for the explanation of the dog fable. I never would have gotten that the Perro didn't come from two pies.
Here is another dog fable that comes to mind: Nadia and her husband Pedro-Pedro is the dog in the manger.
One observation I made, as bad as Dim is he looked very pained when his mother suggested marrying Angelica for money since she is going to die anyway. Does that means he has some conscience or heart?
One of my fav parts of last night's episodes was Aldimfo throwing monymony'su stuffed prize into the fray. He is a riot . He and dim make quite a pair of freeloading mooches.
Also, I get a kick out of shows with scenes at a country fair , and the hero always wins a gigantic stuffed something for his girl. I wentt to our local ag fair every year when I was a teen! and winning one of those enormous dust catchers is not that easy. Anyhoo, someone should advise Malria to focus a little more when she throws darts. But wasn't she thrilled with the tiny consolation prize Ale gave her. Pathetic.
Lila..I do not know where our Cyn is this morning, but I will be a witness. I am standing right here ,girl , while you are beaming at my man.. HELLO...move along now.
Emarie, you wondered if Dim has some sort of conscience or heart? I'm going to vote "No". I think Dim is just pure lazy and doesn't want to take the time to woo anyone. Let's see what happens with this boy, and if he will eventually come around. (Hard to imagine, isn't it?)
I miss Fina. Get her back in the scenes NOW please.
emarie, great point about Dim. I caught that as well. It was like "oh my god, here she goes again." I think he knows full well he is her pawn, no matter what she confesses about "I'll always be there for you". Yeah, as long as you go along with my schemes. He has himself in such a tangle, he goes with it. But it does make one wonder if there may come a time when he turns on her...maybe he, ironically, will be her ultimate undoing?
You brought up an interesting point about Joaquin. I wonder if he will really help Pedro and Loreto of if he is stringing them along, letting them believe he is helping them. Joaquin seems to like Ale. I don't know, I am conflicted about him right now. We do need some more data about Joaquin.
I couldn't help myself about BM. She makes me so mad! She really thinks she is all that. She's like a big wet noodle ; )
You are so right, he didn't have that glow of the dollar signs in his eyes did he? I too think he really likes Angie. Maybe he has a teeny tiny heart, but I still doubt it, about the heart that is.
Now, as far as his relationship with his daughter, that seems genuine. I think both he and his wife would be horrified if they had a clue as to what Graciela's plans are for Angelica. Likewise, they would/will be horrified if and when they find out that Angelica is in love with JL.
I think I've seen a light in Montsy's eye when she found out about that. A very satisfying light it seems.
She is also making the assumption that there is anything of value in Angelica's name. Very presumptuous of her.
Joaquin should be smart enough to spot Dimwit's real nature a mile away. Since he is likely to outlive his daughter, there is no reason for him to not change his will when or if she dies. That assumes he or his helicopter-mother wife will allow the marriage in the first place.
I think the actor who is playing Juvie is awesome. I hate his character, but love his little bits of business--like fiddling with pens on desks, and the cigarette thing. Plus, his expressions. I actually look forward to what he's going to do next.
Now back to reading Wed's recap. I'm soooo behind.
Bravo Novela Maven. Pure poetry. "He is a hacienda sultan squiring two wives, the first glowing, the second glowering", " Dim and Dimmer wander about, cadging drinks from overly trusting barkeeps" and "[What injuries? Did he trip and fall over his own sense of entitlement?]" (sidebar worthy)were amazing.
I think Monse does like many things about Ale and does feel a sexual attraction, but believe she is trying to make herself love him primarily to forget about JL. I also believe her feelings for JL are diminishing. She is being honest when she now states she will not leave Ale and is trying to do all the right things for that to occur.
Loved Ale's imperious command for Maria not to interfere when he is with Monse. The little contest between the two is now showing a clear winner and it is not Maria.
With Graciela telling Ale about Juvie, let's hope we will be spared a Graciela/Juvie coupling. That would be (shudder) truly cringe worthy. And of course, her urging Dimwit to marry Angelica to inherit her fortune and to avoid Fina was reprehensible.
Loreto is not stupid and JL may very well have cut his own throat by vounteering the information that he was a cabo. Not a good move JL...
Wonderful comments all.
Just spent several hours on and off trying to dig out. Hope everyone is safe and warm.
elna june and Novela Maven, you gave some warmth to this snowy, cold blustery day. What a dynamic duo! Exceptional recaps - both.
Perhaps the witless Aldimfo stepped on his own....."sense of entitlement"....Uff.
Elna - I loved your insight to Ale having better bromance skills than wooing....never thought of it that way.
Novela Maven: Your commentary of the fight was hilarious. Personal fav regarding Aldofo "Did he trip and fall over his own sense of entitlement?"
I too love the actor playing Juvie....his character is awful but the nuances he adds to it makes the character fun to watch. I've only ever seen him in PVAA but he is doing phenomenal here.
I too was shocked at Dim response when his mother brought up marrying Angie....the idea seemed right up his alley (similar to what he did with poor Josefina).
Very surprised that Joaquin is playing both sides...I thought his friendship with Ale was genuine. Ale better watch out.....he has a very long and growing list of enemies.
First, I must make a bow to my writing partner, Novela Maven. This was another star turn for you, NM. Nice work and wonderful irony in today's recap.
Judy B: Praise from the praiseworthy...thank you so much for your kind words. You are a real writer, amiga, and I feel honored by your kind words. I have such angst about no longer being able to properly edit my work that I fear much meaning may be lost amongst all of my typos, grammos, mis-spellings and auto-corrected mistakes. Thank you for speaking kindly of my work. Your words buoy me up, Judy.
I am so glad you enjoyed the recap, AN.
So you also were wondering if Dimmy could be an Almonte? This is such fun! I am always on the lookout for hints as to plot developments in the TN's. The writer's hints and the possible blind alleys down which we are being led make my mind race. Of course, that makes me a foe of spoilers, hee hee, because I want the excitement of the experience, not necessarily the actual answer. Good point about why Gracie is SO worried about Montserrat finding out about her affair with Don Benjamin.
UA: I am so glad you enjoyed the recap. You said, "It would be an utter disaster if Dimwit were also Benjamin's offspring (although it would explain his dishonesty and cruelty) because he is so feckless. It could be said that Alejandro takes after his mother while Dimwit after his father (and mother)." Too right, Urban Anthropologist.
Jarifa: So glad you enjoyed the recap. You said, 'Graciela encouraging Dimitri to become involved with Angelica? They are so low and morally corrupt there are no words for them." Unbelieveable, right? At this rate, Graciela will soon be wearing baby seal fur to trim her tablecloths. 'Cruella' Giacinti de Mendoza is how I will now think of her.
Hi, Daisynjay! Great to see you here. Your summary "A lotta fussin' and fightin"' is right, ha ha ha, and would have made for a much shorter recap! I like your point that Graciela may not KNOW the truth.
Another puzzler- why is Cruella de Gracie SO averse to the possibilities of Josefina's millions?
Pasofino: You are right. The only person in his life who has been thoroughly loyal to Alejandro is Maria. Great point.
I would have beat Maria's A$$ on first sight. In the words of the late Bernie Mac: "There would have been a misunderstanding. There would have been some furniture moving around up in that room".
Oh, especially the day he was shot in the arm. Maria would have had to fight both me and my aunt.
Susanlynn, I hear you over there trying to lay claim to Alex...do we also have to have a "misunderstanding"?
it seems to me that JL/Ant wants to be outed
Rebecca, ITA that was no slip. It’s almost like JL is playing “Clue” with Ale now.
Joaquin and his wife are interesting. I wonder if she has cheated on him. Even though both parents are snobs and opportunists, I do believe they want the best for Angélica. I wouldn’t have wanted her to attend the cockfight fair either.
Shocked to see that Maria throws like a girl. But at least I know now that Montse could probably take her, without even breaking a nail.
Jose Luis is truly an idiot. Up to now he had been under Loreto and Pedro's radar, merely seen as a "small" obstacle to getting rid of Ale. But now, with his diarrhea of the mouth telling them he was in the navy, and a cabo, no less, Loreto is certainly going to investigate him. Wait 'til they find out that Antonio Olivares was an older man and a real capataz! If they go to Ale saying he's a fraud, he'll have to bring Victor back to explain (and confront JL)!
EJ said "Another puzzler- why is Cruella de Gracie SO averse to the possibilities of Josefina's millions?" So true, that simply does not make sense to me. It also does not make sense the Dim would inherit any of Angie's money. Gracie's plans are stupid.
Pasofino's comment about Maria being thoroughly loyal to Ale is very troublesome. No spoiler, but we all know that this whole JL charade is going to explode, it's got to, and BM will be right there to "help" Ale sort things out. Darn it. Quick, get her to the factory!
Aha! I thought I recognized Macario but I couldn't remember where. Thanks Susanlynn.
Diana, I adore you my dear, but your comment about a Gracie/Juvie coupling nearly made me lose my breakfast. ICK, I say ICK, to quote Mads. Shudder indeed, to quote you.
Sylvia, still laughing and shuddering
"Adolfo stands at a safe distance and hurls Montserrat's stuffed tiger into the battle." That was LOL funny!
Becky: I love your idea that JL wants to be outed. He is so self destructive that he is now dropping hints to anyone who will listen. The 'slip of the lip' about him being a Navy man will cost him dearly.
Hi, La Paloma: It looks like we shared a fav line from NM's recap. Hee hee.
Dear Mads: Greeting to you on this cold morning! I am sending kind thought to all readers who find themselves in the path of the Storm. I hope Marcario can help Alejandro out. Pedro seems out to get the lands, but is he trying to get Ale disinherited as well? I am confused on this subplot.
Lila: You tell Maria where to get off! Hee hee. I believe you when you tell us that you would have Maria out of your house in the bat of a gnat's eyelash.
I also feel so much for Rosario. She is my favorite character in the show, and the least morally ambiguous. I don't want her to let shame keep her from a relationship with her son. He can use all the help he can get and a little unconditional love might brighten up his character. Maria's love is utterly conditional upon the hope that he will one day be 'hers'.
Dearest Sylvia: I, too, miss Josefina. I want her to come to the ranch and raise havoc with Dimmy's dirty little plans. Then I want Montserrat to fix her up with that suitcase of creams, unguents and hair glue that she drags around.She is my other fav character in the novella.
Emarie: So glad you stopped by. ITA with Sylvia. Dimmy has no heart. He is a lazy, greedy and entitled sociopath.
Hi, Diana: Wonderful, thoughtful comments from you, as usual. How is your weather?
Hi to Cece, Eli and Nanette! Good to see each of you.
Susanlynn: You made me laugh out loud this morning. SR sure has a lot of telenovias, doesn't he? Hope the snow is not too bad where you are...Northeast, I seem to remember?
Best to All,
That was an awesome party and a fun fight. Dim and Dimmer's prissiness over getting involved was hilarious (not that I blame them-I would certainly run the other way!). I also enjoyed Maria's total lack of skill at the darts, and Ale laughing at her.
Is it possible that Graceless also had an affair with Josefina's father, and maybe Fina and Dim are half siblings? They do have matching eyebrows, and it's unlike Graceless to be so opposed to getting access to another family's money.
I just had the chance to read your half of our congressional record…um…I mean our double recap. It was, as usual, a delight. I am particularly fond of the way you nail down those small, telling moments that we might otherwise overlook:
-- That Tía Carlota is secretly thrilled to be part of the intrigue when she acts as Montse's messenger.
-- That Dominga smiles like an indulgent mother at the mess of vegetable chunks that her patrona has left on the cutting board.
And I am not alone in admiring your brilliant description of Graciela's voice. Trashcans dragged along rough cobblestones. Yes.
I am so glad we had the chance to collaborate again!
And to all of you huddled around the space heaters on The Patio -- thank you for stopping by and sharing your insight and humor. I'm so glad you enjoyed the recaps!
Tonight I go to the opera and really wish I didn't have to. It's going to be only 4 degrees.
Since it's the 21st century in this story and DNA testing can be done, that would finish Pedro's plot.
Elna June, your Botox injections must have been successful... you were in excellent spirits and high humor for this. Great stuff. I really enjoyed watching Monteserrat assaulting those veggies with the huge knife, but your retelling was even better than the original event.
NovelaMaven, your sports reporting was a bit mixed. Your description of the people/(plush toy)-fight was detailed and hilarious...
"Adolfo stands at a safe distance and hurls Montserrat's stuffed tiger into the battle."
but you barely mentioned the scheduled main event... a fight between the actual chickens... though the show itself also gave the poultry battle short-shrift... it appeared to me that no birds were harmed.
Isn't it interesting that while we are seeing a bond developing between our two male natural enemies, JL and Alejandro... no similar bonding is occurring between the two female opponents, Montserrat and María?
So what's to become of Juventino? Will he go rogue or grovel? Groveling and pleading seems to work fairly well on Alejandro so I expect Juventino to be back at full-employment by Monday.
Julia Rold, I never got around to commenting on your excellent recap of Wed.'s double episode... what a feat and very well done. By the volume and nature of the comments, I see that the rest of our little group enjoyed it as much as I did.
Question : is the Caraycaray company store planning to carry tee shirts emblazoned with "I LOVE COCK FIGHTS" ????.....just asking. I had to turn away during that brief scene because even though I grew on a farm with roosters...and feared and hated them...cock fights are awful.
EJ...yes! I am in the northeast. It started snowing yesterday afternoon, and we ended up with about 6 to 8 inches of snow. now the sun is shining brightly . And I am looking out at snow covered trees and a snow covered yard.
Well, I have devised a mind game for myself. for every ten minutes spent here, I must work at least half an hour on my chores. May I just say how much I hate putting away Christmas decorations...such a downer. Bah humbug. Later , gators, after I put in my time on chores.
I forgot to say, terrific title for this recap. Yes, it was a fair to remember, and there are almost too many affairs to remember.
Since this series is going to be much longer than the two previous versions we have to consider this possibility and other plot complications as well.
A brilliant idea, Julia! [Are unibrows dominant? Have we seen a photo of Fina's late daddy?]
About Don Joaquín --
Let's not be deceived by his social skills. We now know he is part of the network of corruption.
In general --
I've been thinking lately about how subversive this novela really is. Look at the world it depicts: a corrupt civil government, a corrupt police force, a military that considers itself honorable but is easily seduced by social pressures, the powerful landowners who collude with criminals, the dearth of honest men and women who, when they do try to speak out, are likely to be silenced permanently.
(And let's not even get started on the playful treatment of spousal rape.)
At least in La Tempestad, we had the honorable federales fighting against corruption. But in this Hobbesian universe, it is every man (or woman) for himself. Even someone as powerful as Admiral Lauro Mendoza loses everything because he refuses to play the corruption game.
It seems to me that if the Televisa executives ever really thought about the 'message' this novela is sending, it would be pulled off the air and replaced with PEAM reruns, perhaps. But fortunately for us,
the networks focus on dirty words and bare body parts, leaving powerful narratives alone.
Even if they find other Ben children, Ale would still be the heir since he was stated so in B’s will, right?
Also, confused about whether Fina knows that Dim is at the hacienda or thinks he might be in Brazil.
Maybe Dim’s anvil will be his falling in love with a transformed Fina and she won’t have anything to do with him.
Don Benjamin was of sound mind at the time he made out his will. However, if there is DNA proof of other offspring I think there should be a statute of limitations on discovery. It isn't fair to keep an inheritance in the limbo of probate for very long.
Nanette, I think Gracie led Josefina to believe that Dim and AlDimfo were in Brazil.
These people need to make New year resolutions. For example, Juvie's might be ..." I must keep my hands to myself and work on improving my eating manners." Perhaps Gracie's could be " I must stop wearing my tablecloths as fashion accessories...they belong on my diningroom table."
Susalynn, I like your idea about New Year's resolutions for our characters. Maybe Montse's could be "I will start wearing practical shoes on cobblestones and uneven, steep, stone steps."
So...what should MALria's resolution be ? I think that she needs more than one.
Back to the Christmas decorations....sigh and grumble.
....susanlynn! avoiding the gaze of her snowmen on the etagere
He promised the hacienda to Juventino (who has to stop mumbling). Without the lands, the hacienda isn't worth much and Juventino can't manage it. It wouldn't be long before it got into foreclosure and Pedro could close in on that, too.
DimDim: I will use my pea sized brain to actually contribute to society instead of mooching.
Monse's: I will not cry every 2 seconds and instead channel some of Ale's anger issues to express my feelings.
Ale: I will give up by caveman like attitude, use my inside voice when I am angry and take classes on how to properly romance a lady.
Rosario: I will realize that the Padre is the ONLY voice of reason in this TN and confess to Ale that he is my son.
Gracie: I will burn my entire wardrobe and actually read the fashion magazines I subscribe to as opposed to using them as decor.
Maria: I will realize that it is inappropriate to steal and USE anyone's undergarments other than my own.
Your snowmen are actually sending you approving gazes for breaking up boring chores with the mind improving activity of commenting on telenovelas. Go Susanlynn!
I am LOL at your description of a young woman walking on college sidewalks in sky high heels. So glad that when I went to college it was cool to be a hippie. I spent a lot of time in those days walking barefoot. Smile.
I am still pondering the idea of Josefina as Dimitrio's half SISTER. Wow, I love the possibilities of that plotline. Then Montse could legitimately take on her 'big' sister's fashion problem.
But wait! Isn't Josefina a LOT older thanthe BEBE Dimmy? Would Graciela have to have given up Josefina when she was about 10 years old?
UA, if you are willing to go to the opera in +4*F weather, then you are a true lover of the art. What the heck do you wear to the Opera when it is that cold?
I once went to the opera in Vienna in winter, but it was not THAT cold.
As to the opera, I'll be wearing black velour pants and a heavy purple sweater. When it gets cold like this I go pretty bohemian rather than trying to be elegant.
On that subject, Monserrat looked very Grace Kelly in her nearly 50s-style dress and updo hair. Not entirely appropriate, but only Maria was rude enough to comment on it.
Really enjoying all these comments today. I loved the agricultural fair music, too--and glad to see an attempted murder didn't ruin the party!
Also, wanted to say a big thanks to both Carlos and La Paloma for reading and enjoying the recap yesterday.
Cece: Your New Year's resolutions for the characters all made me laugh!
I also realized yesterday that I kept calling Angelica's sister Veronica when her name is Virginia! Will try to go back to fix.
Monserrat has upped the ante this time. I wonder when she will notice that some of her underwear is missing. Not that anyone I know ever inventories it, but a couple of those things could have been unique.
It was also a nice surprise to see "Ruben" from Mentir pop up as a new character, but considering Alfie arrived after his Mentir character died, I'm now worried for Ruben.
To answer the question about where Fina thinks Dim is, Gracie told Fina and her brother that Dim went to their family ranch to take care of urgent business. And now she thinks Alfie is in Brazil, because of what Nadia said. She has no idea that they are together at visiting Monde.
Hey Susanlynn, thanks for being a witness. BM would be such a non issue! Now, back to comments!
Vivi: what family hacienda? Does she mean Ale’s? So Fina thought he was there, but when Nadia said they were in Brazil, she wasn’t sure?
I’m starting to keep a list of where everyone is from.
Good point that Macario might know Rosario. He seems older than Dominga, so he might have been around before Ale was born.
Just wanted to say a quick thank you for the recaps. As usual they were both excellent! I greatly appreciate them.
Pasofino: You mentioned all the characters that have betrayed Ale, but that Maria was in his court. Let us not forget that BM has also betrayed Ale. She gave the green light for her uncle to "get rid" of her, and she went against Ale's when she helped Montse try to escape the first time.
Will comment more later...
Jarifa -- what a hilarious observation! So true! Let's get the man on Prilosec and maybe we'll change the course of history in Aguazul.
I am so sorry that you were disappointed in my account of the cockfight. It's just that it was so blah that I wasn't inspired to say much about it. The human sparring was so much more fun.
EJ: I thought "mutilation" was the perfect word for what Monse did to those poor vegetables. I loved that scene.
NM: I loved your description of the fair. That was my favorite part of the evening. When Adolfo threw that huge stuffed animal into the fight, it was hilarious. The country fair reminded of FELS. Speaking of FELS, wasn't La Diosa de la Cumbia in that one also?
Urban: Your theory that Dimwit might also be Benjamin's son is totally plausible. How else are they going to double the amount episodes of the previous two predecessors. I would really hate for that to happen though, if Dimwit is already obnoxious..imagine him rich and powerful..ugh.
"I honk for greasy pervies!" Omg HYSTERICAL!!! Are we selling bumper stickers at the Patio store?!
And EJ your unique way of NAILING the subtleties n the Tia Carlotta letter delivery and the veggie chopping is amazing.
I'm a little confused about Macario (?) being a love interest for Dominga. He seems a lot older than her. But I for sure think he's going to remember Rosario.
Thanks again, wonderful, brilliant recappers...
Couldn't I interest you in one of our
I HONK FOR GREASY PERVS
If I have time! I will make matching shirts for dim and Aldimfo....."I'M WITH ESTUPIDO"
Thanks for detailed re-caps on these long episodes. It is very appreciated.
Can't wait to see Ale in that tank top!
"I'M WITH ESTUPIDO". LOL!!!!!!!!!! I think that one would also work for JL and Refu.
I can see where you are coming from regarding the respect. Maybe the character was written that way because Ale never grew up around a woman. He grew up with his grandfather and Padre A. Not that they did not respect women, but it's different when a boys upbringing includes his mother. I think that they see women differently. I think that Ale's anger towards the whole story with Montse stems from the fact that Gracie (a women) did not respect him and thought of him as a bastardo. He might never have had a positive influence from a woman. I think he cares for Montse, but he lost respect for her when she wanted to leave him on their wedding day. I don't think that Montse has respect for Ale either. She still wanted to leave just about 2 episodes ago. I think the talk with Padre A helped both of them. They now realize that they do need to respect one another in order for their marriage to work.
-- yowza, Sylvia, how did I miss that? I am so going to steal that and pretend I made it up myself.
'Dim and Addled'! OMG, what a great cow pie you have made on the Patio!
I believe in crediting genius—I am still going to put a '®' mark on Dim and Addled®. I will be using it a lot.
I miss recapping with you, Sylvia.
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