Caray, Caray!

Thanks for the recap Cathyx!

I'm like you, the time lapse thing confused the begeezes out of me. I didn't know what they were doing until it ended. Poorly done on their part.

So Fer has finally come around, just took longer than I thought.
I guess Angel served his purpose and drove Fer to the edge.

What is up with this doctor?? He just grabs her and kiss her?? Are you kidding me?? You can't be friends after that, she needs to cut him off completely. Time for a new doctor. Also his reponse to getting punched was too tame. Are his feelings completely confused? He falls in love on a whim, yet isn't angry about getting punched twice?

I like when Fer assumed that Ana was going to ask him to dance and asked Bruno. I thought that whole sequence was funny, along with Ana telling Jenny to basically "get the hell out of her, I want Fer to help me, leave me alone!" Hopefully he apologizes to her for how's he was behaving.

Now, will Yolanda tell him DN is not his child? I think so.
 

Thanks for the recap!

J&J put Fer down as a witness on their license, guess when Ana and Fer were still together, and couldn't change it. So he had to be there.

I don't mind Ana being pregnant but I didn't want it to be the reason they got back together. Fer is softening but he still hasn't forgiven her or apologized for his bad behaviour. Wouldn't he just be repeating the same thing he did with Isa? Marrying bc "right" thing to do?

So Xime wants to be the perfect home maker. Ugh!

So three weeks have passed and Freaky hasn't been able to penetrate the security....has to be coming soon now though.

Is Yomama really worried abt Fer? She should be worried abt what happens to the baby if he does find out.
 

Thank you Cathyx.

"Wow, Ana, this man is psycho."

Bryan, I agree with you, how does Ana think she and Angel can be buddies?

I'm disappointed this late in the show and we get a misunderstanding, a jealous fight and a pregnancy. Couldn't the writers do better than this?

So, everybody is happy Fernando got jealous and punched a guy, when Leon did the same Fanny dumped him for Lenin. Maybe I'm just too stupid to understand.

That whole show last night was dedicated to Juan and I guess a Fernando & Ana reconciliation was thrown in between the cracks.

 

Wonderful recap cathyx. Caught most of the TN last night, but have a funny feeling I didn't miss much at the start.

So much making me twitch last night:
- nice Osorio. Let's take a perfectly nice guy and totally destroy him, AGAIN, so we all root for Fer instead. We get, he's end game. Angel, meet Diego. You too have lots you can talk about.
- What is with men being shown to be grabby and that's supposed to be shown as amorous or "in love".
- Just still not happy about Jen/Johny.
- Fanny needs to get over herself. All that mooning at the wedding was the last straw, all the while standing there with her loyal lapdog she is stringing along.
- I had twins and I NEVER felt faint one day and I even suffered from anemia. Can we PLEASE stop this stupid cliche to herald the pregnancy plotlines. Nauseous around food makes sense, as many suffer that.
- Speaking of ANOTHER child - I agree, is this going to be the kick in the paints with Fer to get back with Ana? I find the glossing over of both their issues and backgrounds and history sort of troubling, and that they really are more a couple because of their love for the kids. And she's hot and he's handsome, so hey what more should there be right?
- The security and police in this town continue to amaze. Eeky still on the loose under their noses.
- And Ximena and Nando want to learn cooking, cute but for the hint that Ximena is already prepping to play house. He's 17-18, college, WTH?
- Pablo - more kid pranks--whatever.

Get Diego back already!!!!!

Daisynjay
 

Gracias Cathyx,
I take back everything I have said about pregnant women fainting being novela bunk. I recently read some old letters that my mom wrote to my abuela when she was preg with me. She was always passing out & said she was afraid to go out anymore. One time she passed out in a dept. store & woke up stretched out on the counter. Things were different back then.

So I hope Los Mejia & others forgive me.
 

OT- TVyNOVELAS 2015 AWARDS SHOW

Hi everyone! I already posted this on the most recent 'La sombra del pasado' page, as I'm not quite sure where it should be posted. Wanted to reach as many people as may be interested in possible, I thought I'd post it here, too (and, if somebody in charge would like to make a posting of it separately for everybody else, then they can do that).

The 'Favoritos del Publico' of this years 'Premios TvyNovelas' were announced yesterday and, surprisingly (to me, at least... even though it is a VERY good novela), it was almost a clean sweep for 'Yo no creo en los hombres'- of the 8 awards, they won 6 of them!

The winners were as follows:

Beso Favorito: Adriana Louvier & Gabriel Soto
(Yo no creo en los hombres)

El Mas Guapo: Gabriel Soto
(Yo no creo en los hombres)

La Mas Guapa: Zuria Vega
(Que pobres tan ricos)

Villano Favorito: Flavio Medina
(Yo no creo en los hombres)

Villana Favorita: Azela Robinson
(Yo no creo en los hombres)

Pareja Favorita: Adriana Louvier & Gabriel Soto
(Yo no creo en los hombres)

Final Favorito: Mi corazon es tuyo

Mejor Guion o Adapcion: Yo no creo en los hombres

Mejor Director de Escena: Yo no creo en los hombres

How about that???

Now, the actual awards show itself is tomorrow, Sunday night. I plan on watching and will for sure post the results here on CarayCaray as soon as I can.

Best wishes to everyone!! :-)
 

Thank Cathyx! You hit all the right notes.

What a drag that the reconciliation (or near-reconciliation) had no real drama to it!

High point for me was Fanny getting a 9 on her exam or project. I am a teacher to the end and Fanny remains one of my favorites, though the Leon/Lenin thing is going to end badly for utterly faithful Lenin. Quoting Herman Hesse to her seemed strange, but I may not be remembering my comparative lit class of a million years ago well.

I saw that Diego was pictured in the closing credits. I guess that he will be back soon. He has been sorely missed.

Although he didn't have a lot to work with, JS was perfect as the reluctant witness and insanely jealous ex-pareja of Ana. He really is the strength of this novela.
 

Thanks, great recap...

-Fanny, looked like you were trying to be Audrey Hepburn at the wedding. Sorry, you're not even close.

-Jenny, now that you marry a doofus you wear a nice wedding dress? Glad you lost the hippie outfit from your first wedding, but it's not easy to see you end with Johnny.

-Enrique, nice "hey look at me, I'm a psycho criminal" outfit, where did you buy it? Really makes you blend in.

-Ximena, what's up with the "shiny" clothes, first the pants, now the shirt.

-I feel sorry for the baby, he gets passed around like a loaf of bread, and has no real mother. Wonder what's going to happen to him.
 

Gracias, Cathyx. Don't have time right now to put all my thoughts down, but I'll start with the pregnancy thing which is...

I wonder whether the writers planned that from the outset or if it's happening because Sylvia Navarro is actually pregnant?

And if Fernando tells her that getting married is the right thing I hope she says "no." It's not right if there is no love or respect. He needs to work harder this time and not screw it up.

I had the same thoughts about Jen's dress and her coiffure. Both winners so why is she marrying such a loser?

Yomama needs to fess up. Little DN will need a proper home and he has bonded with the Lascurains. He will likely end up there because there is no better place for him. Or maybe Fanny and Leon will get married and adopt him, although I'd rather see Fanny graduate from college and wait a few more years before having kids.

So...will Ana have a boy or a girl?
 

cathyx, thanks for the very fine recap! I especially enjoyed "despuesed

Nothing much to say except thst I really enjoyed this episode. No criticisms from me today.

Jarifa
 

I will be disappointed if Fernando and Ana get back together because of the baby and not because she had a convincing argument as to why she lied by omission. Her story and history is complex and it's not right that Fernando doesn't feel something for the position she was in. If they get married, there will always be lack of trust on his part because the other issue wasn't hashed out and talked about to anyones satisfaction.
 

First, thanks very much for the recap CathyX. Much appreciated!

I was glad to see the time whizzing by at the beginning of the ep...they had some "subtle" suggestion of passing time indicated by clock hands spinning around throughout that little montage. I'm going "whaaaa....????", and then I saw the "Semanas Despues". Oh.

CathyX and Urban: ITA it is going to make me crazy if Fernando cites Ana's baby as a reason for proposing marriage. That's just what got him saddled with Isabela. If they don't resolve their differences, doom will ensue (if this was real life, I mean.)

J in Oregon


 

@Anonymous 3:40
Let me ask you something, do you feel sorry for all those "loafs of bread" being raised by daycare centers? While the Mom is off "advancing her career", some stranger is busy changing diapers, holding, rocking to sleep, feeding, reading and caring for the baby.
Hispanics tend to place more of a priority on family and the majority of them actually raise the babies they bring into this world. At least DN is with family.
 

MCET as fan fav final is encoraging.
 

*encouraging.
 

Did anyone else find it gross and a bit hypocritical that Nando made a big deal of Alicia and Pablo's innocent kiss when he's only 2 years older and already he's been in 2 relationships and had sex with both girls?! WTH were these writers thinking?! I have come to despise this TN so much that I want to send hate mail to Osorio and his monkey writers. This thing is a mess!
 

Lily, I did. Nando is acting now like he is a 25 year old Diego
 

Lily, I think Nando's behavior in that scene is consistent with his character. He is being a big brother and is mirroring his father's reactions, which he often does. We actually should have come to accept that from him, since at her age he was pure nerd.

I've had writing complaints about this series, but that isn't on the list of my issues.

One issue that leads my list is that almost nobody has such big families anymore. Of course this series would probably not have worked as well had there only been four children.
 

T Lady, I agree that JS is awesome here.

And everyone else... Please don't assume and assume the worst... watch another couple eps, please! before you throw in the towel on this one.
As far as the time lapse, they were not specific but as he was telling Fanny how he was regretting hitting Angel and that it was because of his grief of late, he did say it had been 30 days... it will be clear again Monday. So the titles were vague as far as 'weeks' but the character lines are not.

So fans love the finale... hmmm!! a bit circussy to me if i t is what was posted to youtube....

and cathyx, awesome recap title.
is it only 2 weddings? Fer/Isa and Jen/Nico... and a couple more in dreams (Ana's dream and Leon's dream)

Also Lenin's line as Ana/Fanny walked down was about 'beauty is not in he/she who is beautiful but in the eye of the beholder' (or stte).

And yes, Fernando and Ana were the 'witnesses' on the civil ceremony.

And everyone was laughing because of Jenny's middle name was Betsabe and Johnny's middle name was Nepomuceno... and noone else over there knew, except Ana knew Jenny's mn.

I agree that Jen's dress here was nicer than at her wedding to Nico. esp the top... lovely lacey top.

Ana was shocked that Angel told her he loved her because per her words they had already talked about this and she had already told him what she repeated to him.

Interesting that Fernando punched Angel and then appologized to him saying he never fixes issues with punches... (but you can be as cruel as imaginable with those you love, can't you?)

 

Thanks for the recap.

I've haven't had time to comment all week. I think the best of the whole week for me was when Ximena said how much she liked taking care of children, and Ana said "including those of 17."

I hope the writers are prepping us for a breakup because Ximena is plotting out Nando's life in detail ... the same thing that Leon did to Fanny, actually.

I will be disappointed if Edith doesn't come back in the end. Not for Nando, but just calmer and wiser, and with a makeover.
 

Marta For another snappy, entertaining recap.

Is YNCELH really that great of a novela to gain so many awards?

I just can't see or understand Gabriel Soto and Adriana Louver winning "Best Kiss" and "Favorite Couple". WTH, over SR and AB-- who really showed their budding romance on screen) and Gabriel Soto as "Best Looking Man" ? I've seen a couple of Gabriel Soto's novelas; and, although he is somewhat good looking, I guess he won only for his Mr. Universe muscles ! !!
I guses I will have to see if LNCELH is available on Youtube or DailyMotion.
 

Let me guess, Isa still upping the ante ?
 

Her latest attempt was posting the video of Ana on Sebas' FB page, so we need to prepare for more.
 

I dropped back in out of curiosity to read comments. ITA I abandoned this goofy show a while back. If I wanted to see grownups acting like adolescents and middle schoolers trying to act like adults I would just watch Saturday Night Live.
 

Once again I ask, please no hints if ANY kind about was is to happen. Hints are spoilers, too.
 

Didn't Fer punch Leon way back?
 

Good Lord, sperm count, you already knocked up the Nanny? (Although you don't know DN is not yours) Don't even hold hands with Fanny just to be safe with your track record. :-)
 

Nanette, he did. I think it was about him being married and not telling Fanny.

It was just the one time and Leon has redeemed himself or Fernando wouldn't have him on the payroll.
 

So his comment that he doesn't use violence to solve problems isn't entirely true. :)
 

He lied!!!!!
 

Thanks, Cathyx!

Oy vey. Fernanduh got someone else pregnant!?! Nando, please give him some of your condoms.

Kudos to Fanny for passing her exam!!

Jen and Johnny - Ewwwww.
 

Didn't Fernando also punch Johnny way back in the beginning, at his office? Or maybe I just wanted him to do so, I don't really remember now.
 

Anon at 3:26 - No, it was Johnny who punched Fernando.

I've been watching the episodes and I must say something about last weeks' Thurs and Fri (Feb 27/27) and this week's Thu(Mar 6) episodes.

Totally loved Alicia's remarks! I am now an official Alicia fan. She really stole Nando's thunder and wise spoke with her dad.

Many episodes back when Alicia was going through one of her crisis her dad spoke to her beautifully. Today it was her who beautifully to him.

"Ana danced on the pole!": And...

"Ana lied": Don't you always say that we can make mistakes and we deserve a second chance?

"Not marrying Ana anymore": Love is forgiveness.

Then as I was really getting int this story someone or something totally ruined it....

a. Prolonging Fernando's rage towards Ana. Ok, we get it, she made a mistake, but unforgivable? Come on! Is this really how it is going to end?

b. Angel's "capricho" Oh lordy lordy to what depths has the story sunk. What happened to him? He was a gentle, compassionate, intelligent man and now he is a dufus whose IQ went further down than Xi's! Inhow many word, ways and languages must Ana tell him before he understands that she does not want anything to do with him?!

c. Pablo returning. Whaaat! Another Brady Bunch ending? The story was just right the way it had ended. Ugh.

d. Fernando seeing the "kiss" between Angel and Ana. This has got to be the tackiest way to get to story moving along. This "move" is so old that novellas presented in Egyptian hieroglyphics made use of this gimmick.

e. Ana preggers!! Is this a red herring? A misleading plot line? This was the worst move that the story could have taken because it ruins Fernando's ability to forgive. Now Ana is guaranteed a husband. And he'll marry her under the same conditions that he married Harpybela; not because he wanted to, but because he had to.

f. Lion making a comeback. Ok, so it is awesome of him wanting to change for Fannie, but get real. Does this really happen? Oh, I forgot, this is a fantasy. Maybe Tinker Ana had a chat with Lion. So now because he managed to not erupt like Vesuvius Fannie is going to fall back in love with him? Now he is a lamb, an adorable angel. Just wait till she goes back with him and return to his usual Mr. Hyde state. The story was going fine as it was.

How can this get any worse?

Easy, Ana begins a relationship with Angel. Sure, go ahead, why no, you ruined the story already, why not hammer the last nail in the coffin!

Best line in Friday's episode: "Thank you so much Mike, now beat it or I'll turn you into mince meat"

Happy Monday!

 

Victoria, this awesome recap is cathyx's, not mine.
 

Nanette, i think everyone is throwing around guesses, no solid hints... unless you are talking about my post asking folks to watch a couple more episodes before giving up on mcet. if that is the case, let me know.
 

Thanks for reminding me, Salvador! Big Mike showing up as cupid and then saying he was there unless Jenny threatened to make him picadillo(mince meat) and her saying 'you know, it was really nice but now... beat it!'
too funny. since this is Big Mike's signature line in the novela "hacer (someone) picadillo'
 

Marta

Sorry I made the mistake. I corrected my mistake in an earlier post but instead of double posting my comment, Google ate it!!
It was a great recap. I laughed so hard at some of the snarks that I couldn't catch my breath.
 

Marta: I may have misread one of your posts as hinting rather than speculating. If so, I apologize. I consider even asking peopje to hang in there, you won't be sorry or telling people they should really watch this week or the next couple days, etc. (as examples), as spoilerish. Though I do appreciate the sentiment.
 

Ok, sorry, Nanette... i won't give any leads like that anymore.
 

Mi Corazon es Tuyo won best novela of 2015.
 

CorazonSalvage, then that's not saying much for the array of telenovelas for that year.
 

CorazonSalvage, thanks for the update. I actually thought LQLVMR would get it. Never saw NCELH. Maybe some time. Anyway, I am happy that MCET got it since the lighter dramedies are always my faves.

Jarifa.
 

since you don't mention it i guess JS did not win lead actor.
btw over weekend i saw a youtube of after the show when the cast was saying their goodbyes to each other and little 'Luz' was crying hard on Jorge's shoulder, he could not even put her down, she was too upset. awwwww...
 

But DN is NOT amongst family. He's being taken care of by Ana, Manuela & Ximena. Those 3 spend more time with DN than Fernando (who is not his bio dad) and Isabela combined. So I think it's fair to say the baby is being passed around like a loaf of bread.


 

Also, Paulina Goto (Fanny) got the best young actress award.

Jarifa
 

Hi everyone!!

Well, the 33rd annual Premios TvyNovelas awards show came and went last night, and I thought I'd share the results with you all. If it's okay, I'll post this on more than one page, so that it can hopefully reach the eyes of all who are interested...

Basically, in total 'Yo no creo en los hombres' led the awards with 7 wins (out of a total of 14 nominations), followed by 'Lo que la vida me robo' with 5 (out of 13), then 'Mi corazon es tuyo' with 4 (out of 10), and 'Que pobres tan ricos' with 2 (out of 8).

Interestingly, 'El color de la pasion' was shut out, despite its 12 nominations and, though 'Mi corazon es tuyo' (which, personally, makes my stomach churn) only won 4 awards, it did take home 'Best Telenovela'. ('La Gata' sufferers will also happily note that it was shut out of all 4 of its nominations... :-)

All of the winners are as follows:

Mejor Telenovela: Mi Corazón Es Tuyo (Juan Osorio)

Mejor Actriz Protagónica: Adriana Louvier (Yo No Creo En Los Hombres)

Mejor Actor Protagónico: Sebastián Rulli (Lo Que La Vida Me Robó)

Mejor Villana: Daniela Castro (Lo Que La Vida Me Robó)

Mejor Villano: Flavio Medina (Yo No Creo En Los Hombres)

Mejor Primera Actriz: Rosa María Bianchi (Yo No Creo En Los Hombres)

Mejor Primer Actor: Manuel “El Flaco” Ibáñez (Que Pobres Tan Ricos)

Mejor Actriz Co-Estelar: Fabiola Guajardo (Yo No Creo En Los Hombres)

Mejor Actor Co-Estelar: Luis Roberto Guzmán (Lo Que La Vida Me Robó)

Mejor Actriz Juvenil: Paulina Goto (Mi Corazón Es Tuyo)

Mejor Actor Juvenil: José Eduardo Derbez (Que Pobres Tan Ricos)

Mejor Actriz De Reparto: Cecilia Toussaint (Yo No Creo En Los Hombres)

Mejor Actor De Reparto: Osvaldo Benavides (Lo Que La Vida Me Robó)

Mejor Tema Musical: “Mi Corazón Es Tuyo” (Mi Corazón Es Tuyo)

Mejor Guión o Adaptación: Lo Que La Vida Me Robó

Mejor Director De Escena: Yo No Creo En Los Hombres

Mejor Telenovela Multi-Plataforma: Mi Corazón Es Tuyo

Mejor Reparto: Yo No Creo En Los Hombres

Mejor Programa De Variedades: Hoy

Mejor Programa Unitario: Como Dice El Dicho

Mejor Programa De Concursos: La Voz México

Mejor Programa De Entretenimiento: Me Caigo De Risa

Mejor Programa De Televisión De Paga: Está Cañón

Mejor Programa Especial: Grandes Temas De Telenovelas
 

good for her!!

 

well deserved by Luis Roberto, he did show his chops there... but the idea of SR winning over Jorge i have a problem with, then again JS knows he is OUR favorite.
 

Maybe JS was shut out because he made some very negative comments during a TV interview about this particular awards show and also the fact about SN was not nominated which he didn't agree with in the least.
 

i know, i saw the 'after MCET finale' 'Hoy' show via youtube and both JS and SN spoke very highly of each other, and SN also commended MV's performance as the villain... very good show.
 

so i can understand JS's frustration.
 

they are all (almost, minus RC) in middle of taking MCET on the road to different cities of Mex... they started early in march (7th?) and will go into april (I believe around 6 wks)
 

other non-spoiler things they mentioned at the 'Hoy' show.
Mayrin enjoyed the challenge of her villain scenes that were a bit caricaturesque, making them right rather than crossing the fence into 'ridicule'.
Also Jorge mentioned that he at times had to be reigned in (Sp?) from totally crossing over to the comic tone of Silvia's because he had to retain the 'rigid/tough' personality of Fernando's... so at times he had to fight the laughter and had to get reminders.
Also at the time they taped the last pole performance of Silvia's and Jorge had to show the facial expressions we saw, he had differences in opinion with Osorio and the writers as to whether Fernando should show more anger or more sadness/dissappointment. he showed the sad/dissap choice. Also in that same scene they all knew already that Silvia was preggers in real life so she mentioned that she could see that Jorge was worried about her falling off the pole while holding his 'poker face' of the sad/hurt Fernando...

 

Marta

thanks for the tidbits of info from Hoy. That was really cool to hearJS say he had to rein in his laughter because we saw the times he was laughing in his gut, for example during the shark and dueling scences. I remember the recappers mentioning that fact in their recaps so I went back and rewatched those scenes and laughed along with him.
That is what is so great about the recappers; you guys add details that we might miss because each one of you gives us a great retelling of the story, especially with snark and all!! I absolutely love the snark! !
 

they must have become real good friends between the movie and now with MCET. JS kept on holding Silvia's hand and kissing it. lol!

 

ITA that JS acting is far superior to SR and SN is just tops. Good for him for sticking up for her. As far as the best looking award? Certainly JS is the best looking of the all except for FC, but they can't give the award to the same actor all the time, that wouldn't be fair, so this time it went to GS. He is good looking, in my opinion, but not one I would swoon over. JS and FC do it for me. Can't wait to see this weeks episodes. Hope there is something good on the horizon. Has anyone heard or seen a new show on NBC called "Telenovela"?
 

one little detail... as Fanny and Ana greet Angel at jenny's wedding he said he auto-invited himself (i find this a bit out of character for the Angel we have been pictured... so we have two teenagers going at each other for Ana... one that is too hurt by her, one that is not corresponded). later on this is something Johnny comments to Fernando (that Ana has several options roaming around her) and Fernando does not like the comment one bit, this is when he tells Johnny he is leaving [that is, before he sees Ana/Angel and makes a 180 degree turn to bicker at Fanny about what he 'saw'].
 

Jarifa, what is 'television de paga'? is that game shows?
 

Another interesting tidbit... during his period of 'pain' Fernando has tried to refer to Ana as 'usted' or 'srta Leal' but right after he punched Angel he was telling Ana in personal terms (Ana) that he was sorry, and he admitted loudly that he had no right to interfere in her life or to punch Angel... (LOL!! totally opposite of what he just did)
Also Fanny tells him that Ana has been very clear with Angel all along, that she loves HIM (Fer).
 

I'd add Mauricio Islas to the best looking list with his gorgeous smile and eyes. I would definitely take GS off the list; he wouldn't even make Best Body for me. Too steroid type. I know they couldn't put MI on the list as he is with Telemundo, but GS no way.

 

Remember Mauricio Islas in Amor Real and in Mi Pequeña Traviesa?
His exceptional acting makes him even more handsome.

Denise
 

Eva Longoria and Jencarlos Canela are supposed to be in the new Telenovela show.

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/nbcs-eva-longoria-telenovela-comedy-767208

Eva Longoria is great at comedy, especially at playing a diva. I'll always remember those bits from Desperate Housewives about the porta-potty and the disabled-parking permit.

 

Mauricio Islas is a great actor and he's attractive as long as he doesn't cry. When he cries he looks like Rowan Atkinson in The Black Adder.

JS does it for me. He's handsome, very alpha-looking, and has a magnificently expressive face. When it's time for him to see the plastic surgeon I hope he gets the best one around to preserve that face for another 15 years.
 

Urban

For some reason, I don't see JS as the type--vain--to have plastic surgery. I don't remember MI laughing in any of the novelas I've watched to date. But I loved him in his "highwayman" / Mexican cowboy outfit in 'Los Plateados'. Of course, his persistent, stubborn character with Matilde in AR was hard to shallow.
 

***crying. Have JS on my mind.
 

Victoria, I agree that his
'Gabriel' from Los Plateados was the best look of his so far.
In El Manantial he looked a bit young... and his acting chops he showed first in AR. True. But i have a soft spot for Alejandro (from EL) and Gabriel (LP)
ITA about JS, doesn't sound to me like the type who would resort to plastic surgery, rather he would allow time to change his looks and he would adjust his character selection to reflect his maturity. A.l.a. Enrique Lizalde.