Caray, Caray!

Adriana- You got it all, plus added some delicious snark!

This talk of marriage on the first date I think has got to be a th record. Wow! Vero is just ignoring all the red flags and running headlong into Martin's crazy arms.

Well, well. Virginia has Doctor Feelgood making house calls day and night, and taking care of ALL her needs. Lucky girl. What's she whining about?

That other whiner, Emi, looks crazier each day. Thanks for pointing out that even his short was looking on edge. It's true! Can't wait to see his first real explosion.
 

His shirt, not short.
 

Good Friday morning all!! Adriana...I love your title. And your recap, and your snarky comments. It was all just wonderful.

It was really hard to watch last night and keep a straight face. Seriously.

First, I mean Vero and Martin. She admits he's all mysterious and they don't know about each other...but hey, let's get married anyway and when you turn out to be a serial killer with a smile we'll worry about it then. Ok, I exaggerate, but it's beyond ridiculous. Maybe it's the dialog making it worse.

And then the Ana Perla and Pablo meet up. Such a Meija moment. Slow motion, long staring that went on and on and on, it was cute at first and then at one point I just blurted out "ok we get it already". They will make a cute couple have to say. Manuel is such a bad stereotype mean guy, the menace almost comes off as too much and laughable.

And really Salma fell for the fact that guy was a cardiologist?? And at home?? He may have had a nifty little machine, but really? You want a full heart workup and she gets to do it at home in her jammies? These people get what they deserve, I swear. But hey, Ginny got herself a nice cardio workout anyway and Carlos had some fun moments to watch ( right Carlos?)

So far, I"m okay with how Ivan is playing Martin. We aren't really supposed to like the way he's manipulating things in this story at this point. He's doing a good job with the conflict. Ana right now is a little too school-girl for me, but maybe with the heartache I'm sure she'll have, she'll not be less "Meija weak heroine." He has a tendency to like his leads ladies to be demure, innocent and somewhat gullible to the point where it's hard to believe the description people give of them of being strong and able to go toe to toe with the men in their lives. I am giving my beanie a nice cleaning and airing today so it is ready to go for tonight. Most likely will need it again.

Daisynjay


 

Maybe his shorts too Vivi. I came to the conclusion last night, that whenever Em-old is on the screen, I just need to look away, because I find myself just not being able to concentrate trying to wrap my head around how ole he's suppose to be and the way Sendel is playing the character right now. Last night, I mean I'm sorry, but he looked like a bad example of a Vegas lothario ready to have two skimpy clad showgirls come sauntering over and start hanging on him. Not amount of gel in his hair or Miami-vice clothing, complete with the requisite hanging medallion, is going to help. I actual am looking forward to crazy Emi so I can pay better attention to what he says and does.

Daisynjay
 

Virginia getting her freak on with Dr. Feel-good!

Yet, she's still bleaching about Veronica every chance she gets!


 

Daisy - Emi as a Vegas lothario - LOL - I wish I could have come up with something like that. The buttoned down shirt is not a look that goes with everything and Emi just looks crazy, no matter the scene he's in
I like Ivan, too, but don't feel particularly sold on Ana's portrayal. I loved her chemistry with her lead in Corazon Indomable, even if that tn was a joke, but here it looks like some of the charm is not there. Has to be a chemistry thing, but I don't feel it.
I was getting a little bit queasy with the Pablo - AP meet-up, too. Tns always use the slow motion trick, to beat us over the head with the instant chemistry the couple feels - but how about you actually let us figure things out for ourselves for once?

Vivi - Doctor Feelgood - haha, I tried to come up with a good nickname for him, but I got nothing. It's going to be interesting seeing Osvaldo de Leon as the bad guy.
I think if a red flag hit Veronica over the head, she would just push it away and go write her marriage vows. Also, she looked so impressed by the fact that Martin owns a gold mine - how is he supposed to believe that she doesn't care about money? I get that in her heart she still feels like an orphan, but she's had money for most of her life - the way she talks about it, one would think that she's a poor nobody.

I knew that Virginia was the bad "V" but I was surprised with the fact that she actually cared about Demetrio. In La Mentira, the one I'm comparing this tn with, no feelings were involved - that Virginia just liked to get down and dirty with all guys. Maybe the writers do have some surprises in store for us - why else would they go through the trouble of remaking this yet again, if they didn't?


 

Steve, that's where her huge hypocrisy shines - she blames all that she is doing on Veronica. If you think about it, she's not even making anything up, she's just changing the heroine of her stories. This is a good technique on her part, this way she never risks mixing up the lies or running out of nasty things to say about her cousin.
 

I knew from jump with the previews that Virginia was V!

Can't wait for Martin to find out down the road!
 

Adriana, this is great, thank you.

"(oh, he just has the crazy eyes and the crazy hair and that shirt doesn’t look particularly settled down, either)"

Ok, ok, Virginia is the V, I just didn't want to have it confirmed just yet.

I kinda like Ana & Ivan together and think they are doing the best they can with this idiotic marriage talk so soon.

Gah, please somebody drown Manuel in a bucket of fecal matter.

I'm liking Virginia and loved she loathes Selma.

 

Did Virginia call Emiliano an imbecil last night? That's an interesting twist, that Virginia actually cared about Demetrio and wanted him to get rich quick so she could have love and money. With Emiliano, it's just about money.

If that's the case, then if a richer dude than Emiliano comes along, will Virginia set her sights on that person instead?

Veronica can't help but to feel like the help, the way Salma treats her.


 

@Adriana - You hit it out of the park with this recap...and on the fly. I take my hat off (or should I say my beanie) to you. Excellent details and snark.

Re: Dr. Feelgood and Virginia - talk about "concierge service"!!! Osvaldo De Leon's bare back really impressed me....he almost had me drooling.

Re: your comment about Jorge knowing that Demetrio was into "gold mining"; I don't think Jorge necessarily knew about that; Veronica did say Demetrio left the company suddenly and without explanation, so I doubt he told Jorge he was going to go digging for gold.

Re: writer's surprises - I hope this is not considered a spoiler because I am not giving specific details of what's coming up on Lo Imperdonable, but if it is considered a spoiler, feel free to edit my post. The 1998 Kate and Guy version of "La Mentira" was only partly based on the original published novel by Caridad Bravo Adams. After the big reveal happened, everything on it was new, not even remotely based on the original story. It's well documented on published articles that for "Lo Imperdonable" Mejia is combining THREE original stories by Caridad Bravo Adams. We are currently watching two of them simultaneously - a more faithful retelling of the original "La Mentira" novel (hence the setting in a mining town), concerning Veronica and Martin, plus the first TV version of another Caridad Bravo Adams published novel named "Tzin Tzun Tzan" (which is the Ana Perla-Pablo storyline).

Just as Kate and Guy's 1998 version veered off the "La Mentira" plotline once the big reveal happened, this version is going to do it too, but that second part is going to be based on yet another Caridad Bravo Adams published novel, the one entitled "Lo Imperdonable," hence this telenovela's name.

Like I said, this is all public knowledge and doesn't reveal a single detail of the actual plot, so hopefully it's ok to have mentioned it.

 

Thanks, Adriana. Fun reading.

So glad to see Virginia's true villainy revealed. I was afraid she'd stay a whiny bore. Love that's she only interested in Emi's money, not him.
 

Latina, love the "concierge services " bit. Making fun of these people will be too easy!
I don't think that what you said is spoilery, don't worry about it. I read the same somewhere and I was wondering what the "imperdonable " part could be , if it's not what Vero supposedly did or what Martin is about to do with his venganza. And I couldn't find any info online, either.
The Pablo - AP story I think will bore me to tears - this whole young protas thing that Tns have going just take up so much unnecessary time.
 

I enjoyed the recap, Adriana! Thanks for working on it!

It's too bad that Sergio Sendel is playing Emiliano. If the producers had cast someone younger, the dynamic between Veronica and Emiliano would be far more interesting. Right now, it's just icky watching the old guy pine after her.

Veronica's "strong" attributes are in contradiction with her careless behavior with Martin. No one in her right mind would accept a marriage proposal on the first date. That's just terrifying. I guess the producers want us to believe that her desire for a family is driving her decisions. But still, it's pretty stupid.

Latina, I don't think what you wrote is a spoiler. I like knowing the origins of this story. Thanks for adding your insights!
 

I'll take a "young protas" storyline any day over the random appearance of dozens of useless characters we know nothing about and couldn't care less about, like we got in most of CI but especially in the second part of it.
 

@Tracy H. - I agree it's a contradiction of sorts, but it's consistent with the fact that she chooses to appear to the outside world as "strong" but deep down feels like a little abandoned child in need of love and protection.


One other detail I think should be mentioned is that in the scene where she tells Martin that her mother abandoned her and left her behind with her alcoholic dad, she also said that her dad used to get involved with prostitutes, and didn't seem to care about doing that right in front of her (as a child). Imagine the emotional traumas from her mother's abandonment and witnessing that kind of gross behavior in her father.
 

Niecie: Too bad Emiliano is too busy being distracted by Virginia's goody-goods because all she cares about is his $$$$$!

If I were in that situation, I'd sleep with Virginia, but Veronica is sexy & good looking too!
 

FSo the first episode he appears in and Osvaldo de Leon is already shirtless! I'm wondering if Dr. F is really a doctor?

I saw La Mentira, but don't remember much so LI will be like the first time I've watched this story.
 

Thanks for the wonderful recap!

I didn't see this episode but hoping to catch it before tonight's.

Was Virginia really crying over Demetrio or the fact that he didn't rescue her? Also, in her letter to him she stated she was marrying someone else. Was she banking on Emil or was there another guy in the picture? Or was she just trying to push Demetrio along? I will be interested to see her reaction when she finds out he committed suicide.
 

Carvivile: My guess that is Virgnia will smirk like the evil sadistic person she is!

I'm wondering if she'll take a selfie just like Cesar Montesinos of QA!
 

You know Latina, if Vero had to deal with all that as a child, I would think that in most young women, it would make them slightly more distrustful of a too good to be true guy. But I guess instead we are getting the idea that she is so starved for love, her better judgement and alarm bells have taken a beach vacation and she'd diving in head first. Or I'm hoping that's the line of thinking because otherwise she will be coming off as plain clueless and gullible.

Thanks for the background too on the novels. Hardly spoilery, just let's us know, and I find that actually helpful we aren't getting served up a verbatim remake of something many of us have seen. Little more incentive to hang in during the beanie moments to see where things go.

Daisynjay
 

The V is Reveal. I'm not surprised.Hey Adriana thank you for the recap it was really good.

What happened to all that undying love for her cousin brother whatever? And thats why she didn't want another doctor to come in because she was getting a sexaul healing from dr. Feelgood.
She don't care about these guy she just want their money. Poor little fake sickly slut. Somebody better tell marty.

Nina
 

A bit more background on LI and where it may be headed (no spoilers): As many of you may know, Mejia replaced his original writer with Ximena Suarez (Teresa, LQNPA, La Malquerida). When he hired her it was understood that she was only "on loan" from Jose Alberto Castro, who was renegotiating his contract with Televisa as a producer. Since negotiations were stalled, it looked at first as though Ximena might write all of Lo Imperdonable, but this past week Castro signed his new contract with Televisa, and Ximena immediately left this Mejia production to start writing Castro's new upcoming novela. Rumor was that Mejia was scrambling to find a replacement and that he even offered the writing job to Carlos Romero (of C.I. infamy), but thankfully Carlos Romero turned him down. Word is that Ximena will instead be replaced by two writers: Jesus Calzada and Ricardo Fiallega.

Another production note: Lo Imperdonable was planned for a total of 240 half-hour episodes, so only 120 hours. Given the disappointing ratings, people are suggesting that it should be cut from 120 to 90 hours. I would absolutely no problem with that, because I would rather it be satisfactorily ended at 90 hours, than have it be a hit and then extended to 200 hours with tons of useless filler. After all, back in the 80s and 90s, the norm was for novelas to last only 60 to 80 hours, and even 100 hours was already pushing it.

Final note:

Examples of novelas that were RATINGS BOMBS in Mexico: Pasion, Amor Bravio.

Examples of novelas that were RATINGS WINNERS in Mexico: C.I., MCET, LQLVMR.

Suffice it to say, judging from the above lists, I would much rather have Lo Imperdonable in the "Ratings Bombs" list, as I have thoroughly enjoyed the first 29 episodes broadcast in Mexico (despite obvious missteps like casting Sendel as Emiliano).

Rant over.
 

Latina- Thanks for the info. Just from what you list, I find Ximena Suarez to be a good writer. Shame that Mejia couldn't keep her for the whole tn. I wonder when the writing shift will happen and if we'll feel it. I hope they keep this on the short end. That could make this a really good tn, casting flaws and all.

Forgot to say how happy I was to have Osvaldo de Leon's bare back on my screen again. We called him Big Sexy in La Malquerida for a reason. :) Looking forward to seeing him play a bad guy, Dr. Feelgood.
 

What breed of dog is Onyx? He looks like part sheepdog or border collie.

I think he/she is beautiful.


 

What a delightfully amusing and entertaining recap, Adriana.

Niece,

"I was afraid she'd stay a whiny bore."

I was also getting a bit worried about Virginia being a rather tepid whiner. It was good to see that she can turn on the cynical charm.

I have no sympathy for Dimitrio. He knew what the deal was with Ginny going in. She did not kill him... she simply informed him that since he didn't meet her requirements in a timely fashion, she was moving on with her life. He made the choice to end his. What a weak stupid nitwit he turned out to be.

Vivi,

I don't see Dr. Fernandez as a bad guy. He simply represents the same fairly standard ethics and morals that most Mexican (at least TN Mexican) physicians appear to have. Heck, he goes the extra mile by making house calls. Carry on Dr.

Drat. No Nanciyaga in this episode.

Carlos
 

It doesn't matter to me if Virginia is a golddigger.

If she or Veronica want a man to take care of them, with a lot of money, that's their right!

If Virginia or Veronica want to dump a man because he's broke, that's their right!

We are examining Virginia's motives, why not examine Demetrio's motives? Would he have been so hot to strike it rich for Virginia or Veronica if they weren't cute girls?

If Demetrio was at Level B social class, and Virginia is Level A social class, why wasn't Demetrio looking at a girl who was also on Level B?

Maybe Demetrio was trying to do some gold digging of his own by trying to marry an upper class girl to get in with that social class?

Whatever motives Virginia had, it was not her fault Demetrio killed himself.


 

Anon 207,

"It doesn't matter to me if Virginia is a golddigger... Whatever motives Virginia had, it was not her fault Demetrio killed himself."

Thank you. There is always a spot open for you at the Virginia Table and the drinks are on me.

Carlos
 

Anon207- I think the general consensus is already the Dim was a dimwit for committing suicide just because a girl dumped him. He had already struck it rich too when he did it. Didn't he know how many beautiful golddiggers he could have attracted? Virginia is just one in the ocean.
 

I also just love that soft love ballad that was being played when Pablo first meets Ana Perla. I think it is "Siempre en mi mente" and is sung by Juan Gabriel.
 

Gee, two of my favorites were ratings bombs?! Go figure.

And I agree, let's keep this one lean and mean. I can't see expanding and trying to do more with the cast we have. This is not a huge cast and the plots are pretty clear cut. I think this one would serve well to just keep it simple and under a 100. But if they have to, ok 120. But I would most likely sign off if it won an expansion. Don't trust Meija.

Daisynjay
 

ITA with you that Pasion and Amor Bravio were two of my favorites also.....what is the criteria for their ratings anyway? What about in the U.S.A.?

I'm really liking this TN - and, yes, SS is too old, but I am trying to look past that so that I can focus on the story. I do get a kick out of his open shirt, medallion etc. and he does appear to be going through MAM (middle age menopause) but he's making the most of it in spite of that. I really like all of these actors and Ivan is good, but wish he evoked more emotion when he's with Ana. Just a bit stiff it seems to me, but he may be playing it as a shy guy and later let loose. I guess Jorge Salinas is a hard act to follow in that regard and let's face it, Jorge has had years of practice!:)

Pablo is a charmer and Manuel is a cretin even without a low forehead. La Perla should carry around a can of bug spray!

Gale
 

Woof Woof. Gotta give it to Marianna, nice sticks in the red shorts. (as kj wags tail and begs for treat)
 

Oh and BTW, Manual and Granpa chastity belt both need someone to beat the holy hell out of them. Yaa I know how to spell Man.....
 

@Gale - I used to think Ana Brenda's chemistry with Jorge Salinas could not be surpassed by another actor. But I think her chemistry with Ivan surpassed what she had with Jorge. Of course, I've watched all 30 episodes of Lo Imperdonable broadcast thus far in Mexico. I don't think I'm spoiling anything by saying that I've really, really, really enjoyed what you will be seeing in the next 20 episodes between Ana Brenda and Ivan.
 

Did you know the initial idea was Ana brenda and Daniel Arenas for Lo Imperdonable, those who think Daniel is not a good actor you have know idea about acting, he is one of the best I have seen so far, when we talk about the timing of switching emotions, he is very good at it, have you ever wondered why you still watch CI even though the story went astray, is Daniel, he makes things look so natural,those female viewers who want to look at the galan topless would definitely hate him because he does not like showing his body
 

Let's see if Salma goes Lucrecia Montesinos 2.0 methods!