Caray, Caray!

It's up and there were a few terms I couldn't find and had to take from their context. If I got it wrong, well I did and let me know.


 

Thank you, Jardinera. The recap is great. Loved "crap on a cracker". "Ruff-ruff time in the rut lands". Too funny!

For me last night 2 highlights:

Isabel seeing Diego going to open her room.
Felipe and Mercedes on their adventure.

Looking forward to the next episode!



 

Jardinera- I loved the whole recap.

One bit of clarification. Ayala did not know Julio's last name was Olmedo. He knows him as Espinoza. He used the measurements he took of Julio's body and head, plus his general description, to find Julio Olmedo's prison record and to connect the Julio Espinoza he knows with Julio Olmedo. Now, since there is no photo of Julio Olmedo with those records, the measurements aren't enough for Ayala to declare 100% that Julio is that man. Plus, the fact that Julio Olmedo is supposedly dead, certainly complicates things.

So, is Julio really a murderer? And how did he fake his death?
 

Dr. Lazaro Vacarrio is certainly already earning his keep. Tending two women suffering from the effects of miscarriage, and already involved in a plot to cover-up a fake pregnancy. And maybe even some flirtation with Teresa on the side. My, my. According to Elisa's contact, his credentials are legit. Hmmm... Just why is he at the Gran Hotel?
 

Funniest moment-- Andres picking svelte Julio up and easily slinging him over his shoulder to take him to bed.

Also enjoyed all the scenes of Felipe and Mercedes. He's met his match. Not sure if either of their parents would agree they are right for each other though. They may see it as them bringing out the worst (habits) in each other.
 

Gracias, Jardinera.

I think Dr Vacarrio is investigating something. He may have something on the doctor who messed up Sobfia or on Teresa. Either way he knows his stuff and he seems respectful of Isabel, so he's a welcome addition to this tale in my book.

Did Julio assume his father's identity or is that record his and he was framed?

Loved Felipe's adventures with Mercedes. Whether she will be his salvation is still up for judgement.

Love how Afraido finally told his metiche mother off. Here's hoping he does regularly from now on.
 

Thanks, Jardinera!

Julio's alleged background is bizarre. He doesn't seem old enough to have such a record. On the other hand, he does fight like a killing machine...

Whatever Dr. Lazaro is up to, I like the way he handled Sofia, Tere, Isa, Violeta, and Andres. Not to mention Elisa. Unfortunately Alfredo's going to have to do more to prove his loyalty to Sofi before she can even consider telling him the truth.

I loved the disbelieving look on Elisa's face when the Dr got a clean bill of health, so to speak, from her pal. Kind of makes me wonder if he didn't pay some people off to give him a glowing recommendation - because I can just imagine what Elisa's "friendships" are like. ("What? You're playing a little joke on Elisa? Count me in! No, no need to pay me! I should be paying you!!")

Speaking of "friendships," I cringed at Victoria's manipulation of Natalia. Poor Nat doesn't realize that the earrings aren't really free.

I can't keep track of all the mysteries and revelations any more. I should have started a spreadsheet on the very first night. Oh well. I'm going to try to analyze less and relax more. Wish me luck. ;-)
 

Wow! That factory, I mean, Hotel is huge! Besides the four chimneys always smoking, it has the endless front steps that lead to the sumptuous gardens, the swimming hole, the maze, and this is only the 12th episode! I wonder what else they will show us next!
 

Was sad to see Belen laugh with Diego and call Andres a fool. I was hoping that even if she didn't love him, Belen respected and cared for Andres just a bit. She certainly knows how to put on a good show as the affectionate, caring girlfriend. After hearing her dis Andres, I want Angela to tear her to pieces. Let the games begin!
 

I agree, Vivi. Angela is a lioness.

BTW, where is that fountain? I love that Avenging Angel statue.
 

This was great Jardinera! I was giggling at your "crap on a cracker". There sure is getting to be more and more of those moments.

Ok, this whole 'Who is Julio" really. I've always been wondering why he is so exceptionally trained as a fighter, yet slight of build. This keeps making me think military. If he has the tattoo of a subversive, maybe he is a government spy? When he heard about his sister, he slipped away under a close-to-but-assumed name, to investigate. Ok, maybe I'm getting carried away, but this show brings that out in all of us I think. Anyway...my thinking.

I love Felippe and his Mercy Me. They are hysterical together and strangely, she seems to maybe be good for him. I mean, he actually stays sober longer when he is trying to be with her. And that window move? Lord, that was not for the faint of heart, so that boy wants his Mercy bad. Did love the General...is he not used to finding guys in her room or what?

Something odd about the doctor. So esteemed and regarded, but suddenly willing to come to an out of the way hotel and take up residence as the in-house physician? Yeah, that isn't how it works, so why is he there? Did someone send or call him secretly to look into things. He sure seemed to get sweet-talked by Teresa awfully fast.

" I want Angela to tear her to pieces." You and me both Vivi. I was beyond ticked off at her (kept hoping someone would walk in that door and catch those two). Hope when Diego goes down, he takes her with him. Poor Baby GenePool can survive and maybe Andres can help raise him, but she needs to be anvilled ( I make up words) along with Snidely Whiplash.

Daisynjay
 

Thanks, Jardinera! Fantastic work.

Not a shining episode for our intrepid hero. Sitting there all day adding pulque fuel to his already burning rage brought out some rotten behavior. After he was so rude to Isabel, it kind of serves him right to have to play fly on the wall at her "romantic" dinner with de Ego.

I doubt the doctor had to pre-arrange any story to feed to Elise. How could he possibly know who she knew or who she would ask about him? Plus, he seems to know his business. I think he really is a qualified doctor, but he was poking around the hotel and Diego for his own reasons, whatever they may be. As to the believability of his accepting the position (which is probably a convenient cover for whatever he really wants), he could always claim it's sort of a vacation, a light work load in a lovely hotel just for awhile. Of course Teresa probably thinks the pleasure and status of her company and business is enough to make any man want to move in.

I like the suggestion that probably everyone Elise has ever met would be delighted to gang up against her, though. I wonder how much she pays her henchie. Victoria seems smart...she could certainly turn on Elise if the situation weren't sufficiently to her benefit!
 

I am very curious about Victoria's backstory, though I don't expect we'll ever see it. I imagine there must be a special school to train Professional Mean Girls with classes in Fake Friendship and Advanced Bitchery. It would be the female equivalent of the school where Julio learned his Mixed Martial Arts.
 

Oh and I was pretty sad when Belen dissed Andres. Up to that point I had thought she was making an honest effort.

I was lost during that scene with Angela, Belen and Lupe in the kitchen. (Captions were useless.) What was happening? Was Belen siding with Angela, or with Lupe? Or just perturbing their little routine by throwing in her clueless two cents?

I'll be shocked if Belen survives to the gran fin. But we've all seen how Natalia looks at Andres, so I don't think he'll end up alone. (And if he needs volunteers, sign me up.)
 

"Crap on a cracker!" Golly that's funny Jardinera thanks

Well that Belen and Diego got it going on and on

Julio owes an apology but loved how it is portrayed. I spent the whole hour wanting them to see each other, briefly the dismissal at breakfast but had to wait till the end. Cannot wait to see which of them will crack.
 

Gracias Jardinera

I'm so surprised Televisa has done anything this good, very rare.

This is about the same period as Amor Real, maybe a bit after.

Juan Ferrera is a favorite of mine, he was fantastic in Pasion.

Think I would call Angela & Teresa frienimies.

Diego probably set up Cristina to be the go between for dirty dealings between he & Genaro. She probably had no idea she was doing anything wrong & took the fall for Diego.
It will be interesting when the Doc remembers from where he saw him.


 

Variopinta- I think Amor Real takes place a good 50+ years earlier, in the era of wider skirts with hoops. This is taking place at the turn of the last century, with the advent of telephones and motorized vehicles.
 

Yeah - we've seen more telephone-action in 12 episodes of this TN than in all of FELS. I so love the modern conveniences ;-)
 

Thank you jardinera.
We have to believe that Julio is the one from prison since he has the tattoo. Maybe he got his records changed after he left prison to say that he died so he could change his ID.

Dr Lazaro is a bit odd. He seems to be this esteemed Doctor but he's willing to go along with the fake pregnancy. That doesn't add up unless he's spying and needs to get in good with this family.
 

If the battles in Amor Real were against the French, then that's the 1860's. This show is, what 1910's? Things have changed a lot in the last 50 years (relative to these shows). I just hope Dr.Lazaro, whatever his true intentions are, wasn't lying about his respect for Isabel. She's going to need an ally if she decides to finish school, and she's sure not going to get support from her mother or fiancee.

Kelly
 

19aughts to early 1910's if we're not in the revolution just yet, which will sadly ruin Sofia's country club/spa plans.

Kelly
 

Yeah, Porfirio Diaz was kicked out of Mexico by the revolutionaries in 1911, and that seems to be a few years away yet. Kelly- So true that it doesn't bode well for Sofia's spa idea, nor Alfredo's new post with the president.
 

The revolution in Amor Real was indigenous, Mexicans vs Mexicans.

Most interesting dialog quote from Tuesday:

"Le agradezco sus palabras, Dr. Vicario; poco gente como Ud tiene la sensibilidad de reconocer que

DETRAS DE TODA GRAN MAQUINARIA SIEMPRE HAY UN OPERADOR SOLITARIO."

Hum . . .

 

aside topic on Amor Real: If I recall correctly, the revolution in Amor Real was led by Juan Álvarez, who came to be president for all of the period 4 October 1855 – 11 December 1855.
 

I never got a good vibe from Belen. Calling Andres a fool definitely ticked me off. That gorgeous young man deserves so much better.

So Guadalupe loved cooking more than he loved his wife? There's a story there somewhere.
 

I do remember Juan Alvarez mentioned in Amor Real, but definitely no telephones.
So I guess FC in AR was trying to get rid of the church & military influence, Alvarez was Prez before Porfirio was elected & when he became corrupt Julio was/is trying to get rid of him.
 

I believe the beginning of the first ep stated it was 1908.
 

Thanks, Nanette. Three more years till Porfirio is ousted by the rebels then. Not much time.
 

Short bio on Porfirio

http://www.britannica.com/biography/Porfirio-Diaz