Tuesday, June 21, 2016
Yago #23. Monday June 20, 2016. Relationship Status: It’s Yagomplicated.
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This was an eventful episode with plenty of action, especially the amorous kind. As an unashamed fan of Abel, I was glad he busted Yago and Sara! Tee hee
Enjoy the recap and the discussion! Catch you later! :)
P.S. Yago will not air tonight (Tuesday June 21) and tomorrow night (Wednesday June 22). *Heaps and heaps of expletives directed at Loonyvision*
Knowing full well that Fidel's kids were murdered, Yago sure did intend to twist the knife when he told Fidel he knew nothing about having kids. Did you notice how Fidel's hand started to shake?
I'm hopeful that just like Melina, now that the seed about Lucio is planted in Bruno's mind, he'll start to open his eyes and question things about his "brother". I get where's coming from about being loyal to family. He feels that Omar was framed, betrayed and then abandoned by his family (namely Jonas) who lost faith in him, and he doesn't want to do the same thing to Lucio.
I have Directv and I heard it's going to UniMas or something. I don't think I have that channel (either available or on Directv).
If anyone has that provider, please help (or an alternate way of watching).
Thanks!
I'm also predicting Ambar will go beastmode on Yago & Sara too!
Thanks for translating the quote about the cat being reincarnated as a journalist. What's that about journalists not having seven lives? Aren't cats supposed to have nine lives?
I'm so glad that Katia and Teo have found a way to ease their tension. ;-)
So is Bruno seriously comparing what happened between himself and Ale to what happened between Omar and Sara? Because there is a huuuuuge difference between Alejandra and Sara. Alejandra is looking for the truth.
Fidel reminds me of Darth Sidious, nagging young Jedi Yago about turning to the Dark Side. Let's hope Yago is smarter than Anakin. I don't think he needed to punch Rafael in the face. I'm glad it convinced Lucio, but I think Lucio needs a crash course in critical thinking if he believes that Yago's punching Rafael is proof of anything.
The story about Lucio and the broken cup is CLASSIC LUCIO.
It's a shame that Abel is such a mess. In another life he would have been a great father.
I wonder if Mati will ever get around to mentioning (or if his parents will ever ask) that he stayed with two different sets of kidnappers (proving that Damian was telling the truth after all). I know he was blindfolded, but there's a big difference between kept on a soft bed and spoken to by a nice lady, and being tied to a hard chair and barked at by a thug.
I know one way Yago might get out of sleeping with Ambar. He can claim concern about her heart condition. I know it didn't work before, but he'll have time (at least a few hours, LOL) to come up with some better strategies.
How convenient the baddest of bad guys has to be Lucio. I've heard no one but Melina speak as disparaging about Sara. Yago is a lovesick fool and bet he's thinking happy little home with Sara and the kid. I wonder if there is anything she will do to Yago to wake him up.
I really want to like Bruno but the seesaw courtship is beginning to sour me. Really concerned about Ale's investigation so hope they can come together as a team. Ale is not Sara and Bruno is gonna lose her. My favorite character, smart, cute, no criminal past or hangups and fearless.
In fact, I rarely hear nine touted as lucky or even special regarding anything besides cats. (Just the other day, no lie, I was thinking about the rhyme of St Ives, I don't know why, but everything is multiples of seven in that one. Including the cats and the kittens.) Not that I would wish cats two fewer lives - their time with us is short enough with the full nine. But it's funny that the nine trickled down for cats' lives but not much else. It makes more sense with the Egyptian connection, though.
I'm with Lucio about Ambar and Sara taking out Matias and then Sara leaving him alone with Melina and Jonas. None of the people involved with the kidnapping were put in jail. They are still out there. Just because they were paid off doesn't mean they wouldn't strike again. I'm surprised Lucio and Sara don't have Abel or a hired gun with them at all times now.
Does Yago know that Fidel's kids were murdered? Katia told him right? Is he playing dumb with Fidel because Fidel hasn't told him the truth? and he wanted to land a low blow?
Sara is the worst. Matias is back and she spends no time with him. She is betraying her sister, betraying her husband... and enjoying every minute of it. She gets high off of playing people. I can't wait for her to hit bottom.
I'm a bit confused about the whole Camillo thing. First, Yago asked Tomas to make life difficult for Lucio. Tomas had to have told Camillo about the request because he took it 10 steps further. After Yago meets Camillo and leaves, Camillo wants to find out if Yago is CIA or FBI. Does he think that CIA or FBI would ask Tomas to screw Lucio? Seems unlikely. But then we get this big jump. From Camillo not knowing anything about Yago, to now knowing about Katia and the fact that she is an alcoholic.
Also, why would Camillo keep the girl alive if it is Fidel's child. I believe he kept her alive because he knew that Fidel would come after him, and thinking she was Camillo's child Fidel would murder her. Thus Camillo gets the ultimate in revenge, Fidel murdering his own child. I can't imagine a man like Camillo loves her.
Carvivlie, I don't think Camilo ever knew anything about Yago regarding the loan shark. Yago paid the loan shark to encourage the loan shark's superiors to lean on Lucio, but Tomas didn't necessarily have to inform Camilo about the extra payment or the identity of the person who made it.
Yago didn't get on Camilo's radar until Yago showed up in his house as a friend of Julia's friend. (No doubt Camilo is as paranoid about Julia as Lucio is about Matias. And possibly for a similar reason, if she is in fact a stolen child.) Checking out Yago is how they found out about Katia. That probably wasn't difficult at all, considering she comes from a headline-worthy family.
Carvivlie- Yes, yes, yes, and yes.
I am sure Tomas never told Camilo about Yago or the extra money he was getting from him to make things harder on Lucio. He probably just told Camilo that Lucio was a special case, who both had access to a lot of money, and required extra vigilance. And all it took was for Lucio to be two days late on his payment, and BOOM! Camilo (with Tomas' blessing) came down on him full force with kidnapping and extortion.
Camilo would love to see Fidel implode even deeper.
I guess this was just a plot point but why didn't Ambar make Yago's place her first stop (but if she did she would've busted Yago & Sara)?
Furthermore, why is Ambar trying to crash at Julia & Yago's places? Why not get a small apartment or hotel room to stay at?
Sara enjoys Ambar as long as Ambar is a little girl but at the same time Sara resents having to be grimy to prop up Princess Ambar.
It's time for Ambar to stand on her own. Ambar doesn't need to know all the crimes Damian, Sara & Lucio have committed in her name, but she does need to go.
9 is the lucky number in China as well. What's wrong with 4? Poor four. No luck or respect or chance at all. I think Abel is the four of this show. (Sara is a professional con artist. She'll come up with something to explain why she's "pretending" to be with Yago, so Abel can't blackmail them).
Kelly
BUT I don't know how long it takes to find a good apartment in Mexico City. I know it's not a quick thing in some places.
But I do understand why she went to Julia before going to Yago. (Besides plot convenience.) She didn't want to force the relationship issue with Yago as long as she had a convenient and sensible alternative, and no excuse not to try that first.
Personally, I would see a hotel as a convenient next alternative, but Ambar is hot for Yago so I think she ran out of ideas a little quicker than she should have. (Maybe she will take the hint when he puts some blankets and a pillow on the sofa.)
"Sara resents having to be grimy to prop up Princess Ambar" - I disagree. Sara never misses a chance to be grimy. It's been very convenient for her to tell herself that she did the heist for Ambar. It is true that Ambar was the leverage that Damian used to get her to agree, but Sara hasn't stopped being grimy since then. And she seems to be getting annoyed with Ambar now that Ambar is catching on to her game and not wanting to be Sara's excuse any more.
Ditto for the seven vs. nine lives discussion. Thanks Vivi for your input as well. This blog site is so wonderful.
Thanks to all who post for your humor and analysis as well. Just a delight.
Ambar didn't leave the house because she was upset with Sara. She's been upset with Sara for not telling her truths that she's really not entitled to know, but she's been perfectly content to stay in Sara's house. Ambar left because Lucio (rightly) barked at her for taking Matias out of the house without letting him know about it. She didn't like being held accountable by Lucio ...but she blames Sara for it.
So I'm glad Abel asked her why was she there if she's so dissatisfied .
All I can say about Hulu is ,I was watching Gran Hotal & at chapter 9, that was all. Said sth like my subscription didn't support that. What does $7.99 support? So I cancelled.
I now watch on daily motion, it's free.
Are all capitulos there for Yago?
I thought it was interesting that Julia told Ambar that her father was betrayed by a partner, someone like a brother to him. It's like Omar and Lucio are a replay of Fidel and Camillo, to a lesser extent. I don't think Lucio would have killed Omar's children and I'm not convinced he would have been able to murder him either.
BUT I think that if he wanted to have someone whacked he would have no qualms about arranging it. Whether or not he could do that to someone close to him, I bet we'll find out soon. But as far as we can tell he is driven by greed and there's no profit in whacking a kid.
We don't know how he feels about revenge because he hasn't been put in that position yet. (He's getting close, though.) Would he actually want blood, or would he settle for money?
But whatever went down between Fidel and Camilo had to have been huge (possibly a long-term betrayal) and it sounds like it was personal rather than business. Could Selma have something to do with it? Fidel seems certain that Julia isn't his... but that doesn't mean she can't be Selma's!
You maybe right about Selma possibly being Julia's bio mom (due to the hair color of both women).
Thanks a bunch, Vivi! The information you shared about the lives a cat is supposed to have in different cultures was fascinating, indeed. For Arabs as well, a cat has 7 lives, while the French agree with the Anglo-saxons (for once) that a cat ought to have 9 lives. You would think that Egyptians would adopt the Pharaonic myth of 9-lived cats but no, they decided to stick with 7.
As for your analysis of the show, I was particularly intrigued by the parallel you drew between Lucio's betrayal of Omar and Yago's "betrayal" of Lucio. Fidel did mention that Lucio should be paid with the same currency hence the insistence on sending him to jail for a spell but my thinking didn't go beyond what I heard in that scene. That's why I enjoyed the fact that you elaborated on that thought and outlined the similarities between the two betrayals. And while we are talking about similarities, Julie was right in mentioning that Bruno (unjustly) compared Alejandra to Sara in this episode. He did it right after he broke up with her, because he accused her of lying to him then thinks to himself on his way out that he should've learnt from Omar's story and never trusted her. His hesitance to commit to Alejandra in the past was due to intangible mistrust but in this episode, Bruno felt that Alejandra betrayed by going after a member of his family. Little does he know that his surrogate brother, slimy Lucio, is one of the principal architects of the Guerrero family's tragedy.
Julie, thank you for reminding us of the details surrounding Camilo and his interest in Yago. Your comparison of Fidel with Darth Sidious was great, though I must admit that I have a huge soft spot for Fidel. Yes, we don't know yet what he did to Camilo to warrant such mortal hatred and yes Fidel is manipulating Omar/Yago into unwittingly carrying out Fidel's own revenge, but can we blame the guy? Fidel's tragedy was way worse than Omar's. I am not a mother (yet) but just the mere thought of somebody harming my imaginary children could turn me into a sanguinary beast. My father once told me: "Nobody knows what a monster lies inside a man until that man's family is harmed". Whatever Fidel did to Camilo does not justify his murdering three small kids. Just remembering that burial scene with those little coffins fills me with sadness.
"It's a shame that Abel is such a mess. In another life he would have been a great father." There is a lot of goodness in Abel but he is a tragic hero who won't escape his faith. I have this hunch that he would die protecting Lorenzo. Or maybe this is how I would like him to redeem himself for his sins.
Alejandra is one of my favorites too but the girl needs to start putting her safety first.
Carvivlie, despite the fact that Lucio had his psychotic baby face on, he was not overreacting about Mati and he was spot on when he told Sara she needs to be more attentive to her family. "Sara is the worst. Matias is back and she spends no time with him. She is betraying her sister, betraying her husband... and enjoying every minute of it. She gets high off of playing people. I can't wait for her to hit bottom." Thanks for this, it was spot on! Sara has zero redeeming qualities and the actress is doing a great job in portraying this selfish, cold, cruel and manipulative villana.
Kelly, a warm welcome to our Yago patio! Always a pleasure to have new voices join the fun. Thank you for adding more info to the discussion about cat lives and lucky numbers.
JudyB, I heard "el gabacho" in another show and I too understood it as "the other side" or "up North" from the context but it was interesting to learn that it is a term that originates in Spain, the adjective "gabacho(a)" referring to people or things originating from the Pyrenean villages. Then the term started to refer to the people beyond the Pyrenees, in a rather pejorative way, then Mexicans and Chicanos adopted it as an alternative to "gringo", not necessarily pejorative, to refer to English-speaking, non-Hispanic people and/or places.
GoBlue, Dailymotion is just like Youtube, a video hosting site. No need for you to sign up.
Variopinta, this was a hoot: "In the US cats have 9 lives, in Mex only 7, don't deport kitties." :D
Nobody in Omar's clan likes Sara, but they're too old school not to be polite to her. I remember when Matias visited and they clearly tolerated her for his sake. They pity Lucio for taking up with her.
Hope Bruno and Ale get back together and sleuthing. I get Ale's thrill at uncovering a mystery, but she knows Bruno has trust issues and should've told him what she was up to even if he didn't like it. Better to argue than to cover stuff up.
Yago better think of a good reason to send Ambar packing.
Now that you mention it, I seem to recall either Melina or her husband saying that they felt sorry for Lucio for being stuck with Sara. I think it was during the first visit we saw Mati pay the Guerrero couple. Still, I feel that the writers owe me a flashback scene where Lucio gets flak from Omar's parents for shacking up with and "impregnating" Sara so soon after Omar's imprisonment.
"Yago better think of a good reason to send Ambar packing." Indeed! Either start remodelling his lair or have Katia move in with him!
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