Monday, January 20, 2020

TELEMUNDO Y MÁS (#1): La Doña 2, El Señor de los Cielos 7, y más: Week of January 20, 2020

Welcome to Page #1 (Monday edition) of the Telemundo y Más page, issued twice a week: Mondays and Thursdays at 8:00 PM.

Here are the current evening telenovelas (all times are Eastern Standard Time):

• 9-10PM—La Doña 2
• 10-11PM—El Señor de los Cielos 7

Season 2 of La Doña began this past Monday. It's still possible to jump in. All episodes from last week are on the Telemundo website, along with a brief synopsis.  Many of the actors in season 1 have returned for season 2, along with a number of new ones, among them Carlos Ponce, David Zepeda, and Marisela González.

Everyone is welcome to join in the conversation.  Since discussions of all the Telemundo novelas share the same page, please remember to put the name of the telenovela you're referring to at the top of your post, so readers can easily find the conversations they're looking for.

By common agreement, this group DOES NOT discuss previews, trailers, or any other plot information not found in a current or past episode of the current production. Spoilers WILL be removed by the admin. This includes reference to earlier productions of the story, and even the original novel. Thanks for your cooperation!

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Comments:
"ESDLC":

Dondi356: We're in the closing stretch of Ultimos Capitulos in the 7th & final Season.
 

"ESDLC":

Dondi356: You're missing out on the fun & chaos as we're getting closer to the final stretch.

1.) Alfaro conniving with Valdes & gloating about Castillo & Carla's chaotic problems.

I think Alfaro wants Castillo's job.

2.) Dalila sends the blood-stained tissue to the DNA crime lab folks for testing.

3.) Navarro, Colon & Corina are just interesting.

4.) Amado rescues Diana (who got shot in the leg) & the female hostage.

5.) Law enforcement agencies catch El Capo......for the moment.

6.) El Capo's posse rescues El Capo from custody.

7.) Dylan the freak & his freak buddy plotting more chaos against the Casillas family.

8.) El Capo plans to use the Trump card: targeting Luzma.

9.) Ambar guns down Valdes' Henchman by blowing his head off.

10.) Berenice still an IDIOT. It's hopeless.

11.) Jaime plotting more schemes with Joaquin & Violeta.

12.) I'm amazed Joaquin & Violeta are still alive at this point.
 

La Dona. I hope this doesn't turn out to be a long telenovela. It's getting more and more disgusting, especially psycho Navarrete jr., Braulio, and the lingering over rape scenes and Braulio's terrible beating of Monica. Will she die or just end up horribly injured, or recover? Or best case scenario, one of the Monkee relatives will walk in and save her.
 

doña2

SpanProf, I had the same thought while I was watching last night. I felt dirty even watching those scenes. I'm not at all pleased with the direction this novela is taking. Is this Telemundo or Teleporno?

Tengo prisa. No time to say more now. But I couldn't resist seconding your comment.
 

"LA DONA 2":

SpanProf: BOLD Prediction: Monica will DIE! All signs are pointing toward a deadly ending for her.

I do NOT see the relatives of the powerful Monkeys Alliance saving her, so Altagracia loses her only child for good.

Juanita: Let's not forget that Braulio violently beat & raped his ex-wife, Valeria non-stop in Season 1.


 

Doña2

So far, I'm very disappointed with this show. I agree with SpanProf and Juanita. The Rainbow Killer story line is so gruesome. Braulio is still a disgusting, despicable character. And if that isn't enough, it looks like Romelia Vega is ready to get into the snuff video business using her escorts. Why is any of this necessary? Right now this is worse than Señor7.

There are some characters that may come through for the good guys. But I'm afraid it won't happen quickly. Isn't one of the Monkey kids a doctor or med student? He has some sympathy for Monica. One of the Rainbows got busted, too.

dondi356
 

Señor7

I'm not missing out, Steve, I'm just falling a bit behind. I saw about half of last night's episode.

RIP Fidencio.

Colon and Navarro talk retirement. Will they make it to the end?

Who's going to win Rita's love? Ambar or Navarro?

I get a kick out of Joaquin and Violeta. But I don't completely trust her since Cabo turned her out.

Agree Berenice is hopeless but so is Jaime. In a very strange way, they were made for each other.

dondi356

 

La Doña 2

I am not watching this, but I happened to put it to Telemundo while this was on and caught the scene where a woman is being tortured with a paintball gun. Had to change the channel. I couldn't watch such brutality.
 

"ESDLC":

Dondi356: We'll see if Navarro & Colon make it alive. Big question is whether Corina makes it alive if Ojeda figures out Dalila has been working with her ?


 

La Dona
Week one......

JUANITA:
YES…. SPAN PROF AND FAMILY…...LA DONA LADONA, JUMPED RIGHT OFF…….

THE FAMILY OF ALL THE MONKEYS… they are tripping!! Your dads and sons, were serial killers, get over it!!!

Yes...Navarrett jr... when I watched dude watching snuff films... and getting his freak on. I realized this season is going to get dark...

Braulio, can’t you stay dead? / oh!yea! !!... the devil never dies...!!

Vidal is the corrupt boss... I knew it... just didn’t have Spanish translation!!!! He is working for who??/ the monkey families!!??

Rafeal's oldaszz dad is a mean old bastard!!..apple don’t fall far from tree, his grandson died how?? DUI... motorcycle.

That recap of the first year was AWESOME!!!!

NARVARETT’S SON ..?? EDWARDO?? THE MAIN PSYCHO RAINBOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

When I saw them together, I was OMG! It’s father and cray cray son...!!!!!WTF! ...oh hell !! no!! but heck yes!!..CHIP OFF THE OLD BLOCK..

Yes ...! Vidal is stalling Leon, but the intersectionality is ridiculous n this show… and was that the ..'buy off'.. money for the cops??

Yes!! AG can negotiate with Satan’s 2nd cousin and she did. Navarrett had the criminal mindset to know the room was bugged. HER ANKLE MONITOR HAS TRACKING, too... DAMN!!

YES...LOL!! Exatlon… please, lord ...make that a daytime show!! For goodness sakes!!??THE BAKERY FENCE CLIMBING WAS EXCELLENT... KAREN HAS SKILLS... GO GIRL!!!

The trial... all the players assembled…deep!! Nobody took pictures other than the press… but then again, there are photos of everyone ,but the teenagers...

Speaking of hot in the behind teenager..that fast hussy is screwing Braulio... I heard of animal magnetism but god, ...

Oh yea!!wait until the other lady in those awesome outfit gets a wind... she wants her slice too. And baby he going to delivery, trust me!! dude ,don't you have a Bum knee??.. bum hip... don’t matter...

 

LA DONA!!
JUANITA..

WEEK ONE…..PT 2

Nicolina??... the hacker has skills. Her moms...she doesn’t play either, damn!!..momma,shot the ear off the reluctant rainbowed.

poor stupid dude, How the heck did they/rainbow crowd, clique,club,??pull him... he is the weak link...

killer with no ears,has skills,he found Nicolene ?? bummer!!

The Hacker-girl/lady was not to surprised and why in the name of goodness would they think she was going to fall for the greedy monkey trick. Porfavor!!

The dirty lady cop... was stalled and ‘Cop-Blocked’… at the hospital visit and the$$$ doctor paid-off healer!!...collaborated


….and when Naravett strolled into the doctor’s office... it only showed me,how, Navarrett must be desperate for that cash!!

Cisco is the dude, but his partner is a cheap dirty rat cop… so, it's her cellphone that monitors AG.....

The Monkey family are winning points, esp. their following /Regina the nun and robbing her… Braulio and old Rafael’s pappi are on point…

Leon that was a smooth move taking lady hacker, Nicola?? and pistol packin momma, to the foundation!! But the other women are vulnerable.

Perez has no alibi, Monica,yes..burn his aszz!! he is a rainbows killer... he may have to die, and his pal, Eddie??... will be happy to oblige...

Shades of the best darn/ and first, Hannibel Lecter movie...'Manhunter' with Peterson[1980's]... Eddie Munster... he creeped me out!!...esp. when,he watched his mom channel her anger into her Jackson Pollack knockoffs...

Later at the happy home-life scene, she realizes/her son... is empty/vacant/absent …he has no empathy for her ...despite her denial …

Bad marriage ,dad was brushing her off…. as usual, she has no one…

So, Monica put the young psycho/Perez, on blast/outted-him as a rainbow…. suspect in the media, so the rainbows …are on the defensive…

But the Monkey family ,have Monica in the Panic room cell under a bowling alley…torture!!

Monica, girl they are doping your aszz, so fast and fast... you dropping 10pounds off your weight... when you avoid laced-food, water, juice, cookies.. air...

.. I wonder if this actress is pregnant. This is what happens [bed rest] for the duration of series…

Monica is helpless, unless Sebastian the doctor takes pity on you...


Dang the psycho Eddie?? Made/ viewed Leon’s house... I see the end of a family…

Regina’s daughter is not happy to see Daniel. But he has the resources, he did his time, but he is the only one able to recognize all the MONKEY FAMILY MEMBERS…… WHEN THE TIME IS RIGHT, I QUESS when the courtroom photos come out…

 

"LA Dona 2":

HALIMACANDY: You can expect the Monkeys & their cronies to keep winning FOREVER.

Big question is whether Leon will be able to figure it out ?

I do think Danna Paola is PREGGERS.
 

La Dona. Well, if the actress playing Monica is pregnant, this is certainly a novel way to handle it. But wouldn't it be easier just to have her find out she's expecting a baby with Saul? Or the writers could send her off somewhere for a while, like Olivia Benson in Law and Order, SVU. 10 or so years ago.
 

"LA Dona 2":

SpanProf: I don't expect Monica to be among the living.
 

TELEMUNDO...

"announced today it has signed an agreement with renowned Mexican actor, Fernando Colunga. As part of the deal, Colunga will star in various original productions, beginning with the new Super Series™, Malverde: El Santo Patrón (Malverde: The Patron Saint), slated to premiere next year."

"Malverde: El Santo Patrón is an original Telemundo Global Studios production, inspired by a true story, that will tell the truth behind the legendary Mexican character. The action-packed series, which will begin production in 2020, relates the story of a boy, born in Sinaloa, Mexico in 1870, who will ultimately become a legendary figure, almost a religious icon, protector of the people, the innocent as well as the poor and dispossessed, and even narcos and criminals."

https://www.nbcumv.com/news/telemundo-global-studios-signs-multi-project-agreement-renowned-mexican-superstar-fernando?network=33144

(hmm, I didn't realize Malverde was a real person)

 

telemundo

Muchas gracias, deb, for this interesting bit of news about Fernando Colunga and the new Super Series. Does "Super Series" mean it will be shown in the 10 PM time slot, normally reserved for sex, violence, and the narco world? Is this Telemundo's token repentence? :-)
 

Juanita: It might be in the 7:00 PM CST slot.

"Operacion Pacifico" is likely taking the 9:00 PM CST slot of "ESDLC" on February 10th.

"LA Dona 2" is currently in the 8:00 PM CST slot.
 

"ESDLC":

Dondi356: Moment of silence for the Venezuelan Ambassador to Mexico RIP.

1.) Violent confrontation ensued between Valdes & his posse vs Ambar, Rita & Edith.

2.) Valdes was wearing a bullet proof vest when he got hit first.

3.) One of Valdes' Henchmen shot down Edith, who collasped to the floor.

4.) Rita gets her kid for safety.

5.) Edith dies in front of Rita & Ambar.

6.) Realizing law enforcement agencies were arriving, Rita tells Ambar to leave immediately.

7.) Dylan, his Pimp freak & El Capo plotting more chaos against the Casillas family.

8.) El Capo using his Trump card against Luzma by finding out where she's going.

9.) While that's going on, Diana, Amado, Rutila & Co., hanging out at the Casillas family mansion.

10.) Ojeda eating pizza at Vipoli's mansion LOL.

11.) Castillo & Carla still having problems.

12.) Luzma, Angela, Tech Dude & Chema's son hanging out at the museum or some swanky nightclub when El Capo calls out Luzma's name.... she turns around to face El Capo.


 

Dona 2

Regarding Danna Paola,

The actress has only a limited participation in La Dona 2, as she is also filming her Netflix series Elite in Spain.

Enjoying reading your comments. Thank you so much.
 

Señor7

Yes, RIP Edith. They let her think she killed Valdes and got revenge for Casasola.

Amado and Diana agree to “take a break” to see if their relationship was meant to be.

Greñas thinks he’s meeting a chick from Tinder at the shopping mall—he doesn’t know he has a date with Cabo instead. Dylan was frantic when he saw Luzma show up in the group with Greñas. I saw Isturriz coming up the escalator to meet them.

Navarro, Castillo and Carla try to get Rita to testify against Valdes but in the meantime, Valdes has made his getaway back to Cuba.

Interesting how Luzma has taken control of the family finances. She's wants to build a hospital with some legit money the family has. IIRC, Rutila had legit businesses in a past season.

dondi356
 

Doña2

La Felina! She’s Back! A great character (and actress, Maricela Gonzalez) from El Señor de Los Cielos who was believed to be killed by El Cabo. Hey Steve, maybe Monica Robles is still alive, too?

There’s been some crossover between La Doña and Señor. Altagracia showed up briefly in Señor 6. Now we see Amado Leal and Felina in La Doña 2. Hope Felina sticks around for a while and they don’t mess with the character.

Anon @ 10:38, I heard the same about Danna Paola. I suppose they could kill her off or just keep her hidden away most of the series.

dondi356

 

Telemundo

Thanks, deb, for the news on Colunga. Very interesting indeed. And it will be interesting to see how Telemundo handles the legend of Malverde. I don't know if they have ever proved his actual existence.

deb, I’m still watching Magnificent Century on YT. I’m in the middle of #39.

dondi356
 

Telemundo

I just took a look at the link deb provided for the news about Fernando Colunga. Apparently the Malverde novela will begin production sometime this year and will be shown in 2021. So I guess there's no way to know what time slot it will occupy. I am still wondering, however, whether novelas Telemundo designates as "Super Series" have ever been shown at a time other than 10 pm Eastern Time.
 

Telemundo: Well, with the Malverde series it will be nice to have something positive about Mexican history, rather than narconovelas and La Dona-type tns that imply very strongly (perhaps correctly?) that if you have enough social standing and money to pay bribes that it's perfectly ok to even be a serial killer.
 

doña2

Thanks VERY much, dondi, for the very interesting information about La Felina. Having given up on ESDLC midway through season 2, I did not know she was a character in that novela, nor that Altagracia appeared briefly in season 6. Interesting that Telemundo is trying to connect ESDLC and La Doña2. No wonder I keep thinking that La Doña2 really seems more like the sort of novela normally shown at 10 pm (Eastern Time). (I guess I shouldn't complain that it's not at 10pm, since I much prefer watching novelas at 8 or 9.)

La Felina looks like an interesting character, but I confess that I wasn't eager to see the excessive violence of the previous episode continuing last night in the scene with her. I'm not a wimp. I loved La Reina del Sur 1 and 2 in spite of the violence. But there it didn't seem excessive, nor was there also lots of really sick sex as we see with Navarette Jr. and Braulio. It's how much violence and sick sex there is in La Doña2 that I find disturbing.
 

La dona2. Juanita: Exactly!
 

Magnificent Century (Muhteşem Yüzyıl)

thanks dondi!

just finished yt 41, Hurrem really stepped in it this time.

I'm fascinated by one person ruling all, couldn't ask for a better Sultan than Suleiman, but this just doesn't work. (I've read that what made Turkey such a great country was not only the place where east meets west, but the tolerance of it's leaders for other cultures).

cracks me up how Hurrem confides in her daughter who is becoming a mini-me with her expressions.

Daye Hatun showed a good side when she confirmed Hurrem didn't cheat by talking to Nigar Kalfa, but she is hard to read.

and Hurrem is no angel.

was really liking Isabella Fortuna, she did quivering very well.

I was really liking Nigar Kalfa too, she is really clever at looking out for herself, till they did the deed.

Bali Bey is my current favorite, but how long can a person be a good guy in this story?

 

"LA Dona 2":

Dondi356: I still think Monica is going to get whacked.
 

LA DONA

YES... FELINA...

THAT'S MY GIRL from 'way -back-in- the-day' as one-eye in Prisonera?? and killed/survived Senor...??!!anyway.. I love any thing she does.. yes.. go girl..loving my Afrolatinas!!!

and yes yes .. why are we seeing SENOR CIELOS people in this show??!!!

..excuse m ..how the heck did the rainboes find Nicole?? and pistol packing momma at the foundation??..fernando…??
karen ,she need a smooth move getting the pictures of fernando ear..

AQUITTED!!!.... AQUITTED...!! LIKE I said, how that chick didn't go to the big house is interesting...


MALVERDE my god!! the patron saint of Narcos and their poor long suffering wives/ mothers!!!!!!

….he does brisk business at the ghetto and barrios Botanicas-Chango has a large statue in the window!!! …. prayers to the poor wives and mothers..who have to scourge for bail money......for their n0-good-nic sons/husbands!! ..5th and Allegheny ,philly pa.!!!


well.....the Family of monkeys...as a group.. are not going to stay together.. too many interest.they are starting to turn on each other..


Karen hurry up ,get the evidence!!!...too bad.. and those poor greedy neighbors who came to check on fernado, should have followed their first instinct.. they got smoked for their trouble....
 

doña2

Two things don't really make sense to me. One is why Leon, who clearly loves his family and knows how dangerous the bad guys are, nonetheless brings Noelia and her mother to stay at his house. His wife is right to be unhappy and worried. How can he not realize how he's putting his family in jeopardy?

And how could the very smart, savvy Noelia jeopardize herself, her mother, and the family they're staying with by going out to meet...who? Some computer guy she doesn't know and hasn't even seen? That flies in the face of everything we've seen about her.
 

"LA Dona 2":

Dondi356: I'm trying to figure out how did Felina survived getting shot by El Capo ?


 

La Doña 2

I haven't seen Season 1 so I'm not watching Season 2 but I have been reading the comments and have a question:

Why are they called Monkeys?
 

"ESDLC":

Dondi356: El Capo is hell-bent on exterminating the Casillas family altogether.

1.) El Capo shoots Luzma multiple times.

2.) Leon (Chema's son) shoots back at El Capo & Isturiz also shoots back, who was wounded.

3.) Tech Dude goes after El Capo & his posse.

4.) However El Capo's posse chases after Tech Dude, who manages to escape.

5.) I think we get the real motive for El Capo's revenge: Aurelio killed El Capo's son several years back.

6.) El Capo has Dylan track down Dona Alba, Pepque & the kids: it seems like he'll kill them too.

7.) Over at the Casillas family mansion, they find out about Luzma getting shot.

8.) Izzy & Super Javi find out as well.

9.) Alejandra holding Laura's baby while talking to Ambar.

10.) Valdes enjoying the special drink while flying back to Cuba.

11.) Castillo & Carla still having problems LOL.

12.) Rita making out with Navarro.

13.) Colon & Corina eating dinner.

14.) Amado & Dalila getting freaky at the nightclub.

15.) Amado finds out about Luzma getting shot, he abruptly stops the freaky escapade with Dalila.

16.) Izzy blames Tech Dude for what happened to Luzma & pulls a gun on him.

17.) Tech Dude is very brave & dares Izzy to shoot him.

18.) Super Javi's managed to defuse the tension.

19.) Meanwhile at the nightclub: Dylan tracking to find out where Dona Alba is located.

However: Tech Dude & the Casillas family & their posse launching a counter-strike.

20.) Rutila, Izzy & Laura see an unconscious Luzma.
 

La Dona. I can't believe that they used the old cliche of the lone police detective who follows the bad guys to an obviously dangerous spot, without telling anyone where he's going and without backup! Naturally he gets stabbed! And apparently all so that the arcoiris psychos can live to fight another day and the novela can be stretched out over more episodes. Seems like bad planning on the part of the writers.
 

doña2

SpanProf, I too was dismayed by this absurd bit of plotting. I started shaking my head when Ochoa drives his car into the same remote area where Navarette Jr. and his buddy just parked. They're still outside but for some strange reason they don't hear the car's noise as Ochoa drives up, even though it's quite audible. And, as you've rightly pointed out, why would Ochoa come by himself? Apparently it's the only way the cliché-minded writers can think of to get him killed.

Speaking of clichés, I found it a bit much that the actions of yet another powerful woman are controlled by her having a child in the hands of people who could harm her/him (La Doña and Mónica, La Felina and her son, and even Teresa Mendoza and Sofía in the infinitely superior novela La Reina del Sur2).

I also fail to understand how/why Braulio has so much authority and power over the Monkeys' relatives. (Perhaps he reminds them of their dear departed scumbags?)
 

Doña2

I could have a faulty memory on this but I thought that Felina’s son was dead (season 5 ESDLC).

Agree, the Ochoa thing was aggravating.

Juanita, maybe Braulio took charge because he’s the one that has the most intimate knowledge of Altagracia. And also because he's a very scary guy.

dondi356
 

doña2

@Anonymous11:51: I may be mistaken, but I think the gang called themselves the Monkeys and the name stuck.

BTW, it would be good if from now on you identified yourself by signing your postings. You don't have to use your real name, just something better than Anonymous :-)
 

"ESDLC":

Dondi356: I don't see Rita testifying against Valdes, who has flown back to Cuba.

The Casillas family & Co., better get off their lazy asses & FINALLY take out El Capo.
 

LA DONA..
IS FELINA'S SON DEAD??..I THOUGHT SHE TOLD THE FOREIGN GUY.. I have to do as you say ..inorder to save him???

Felina ..girlfriend ..our prayers are with you and YOU LOOK AWESOME... STUNNING..one of the most beautiful women on novelas.. a real Ms. world!!! that coco butter works!! you are glowing

dang.. AG, Neolina Didnt kidnapp monica..


BUT THAT 2.5 MILLION DOLLAR REWARDS..IS SETTING THE RAT at each others throats!!
IT SET IT OFF!!$$$

WHAT IS THE DEMON EDDIE??MUNSTER SMOKING?? ANGEL DUST!???
 

doña2

Yes, Halimacandy, Felina did say she had to do what he says in order to save her son. Of course, since I haven't been watching El Señor, I have no idea whether dondi is right that the son died in that novela's season 5. If I had to guess one way or the other, i'd put my money on dondi's being right.

I confess that I'm not enthusiastic about novelas leaking into each other.
 





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