Monday, July 04, 2022

TELEMUNDO Y MÁS (#1): Amor Valiente, Infiel: Historia de un engaño, y más: Week of July 4, 2022

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amor-val

I will put up a short recap later. And this is assuming it's a regular episode and not some sort of rehashing of events because of its being the 4th of July.
 

amor-val #29

Parte 1

Tahsin accuses Cesur of having arranged the attack on the town and on him. Suhan looks at Cesur as if she believes her father.

Sirin’s mother is looking for Salih. She sees Bulent and Cahide talking and looking nervous. Cahide wants Bulent to “take charge” of Hulya and he isn't on board.

Reyhan (Sirin’s mother) sees the fire. And Viewerville sees that Salih is the one setting it. Back in the center of town Tahsin tells his family that Cesur tried to kill him. Cesur asks why he would break the windows of these stores. Why would he harm Suhan by breaking HER store windows?

Korhan gets a call that the houses of Tahsin’s employees are on fire. We see Salih wipe the gas off his hands and then ask everyone to help him put out the fire he himself set.

Cetin (Banu’s father) calls while Cesur is driving home. Cesur answers, and it’s on speaker. Suhan can hear him say that they didn’t catch the person who fired a gun because, of course, it was Tahsin’s own guys. Cetin reminds Cesur that this is the guy who kidnapped his own daughter. Of course he did it (created the vandalism in the town).

Cesur’s mother has come unglued because of all the sirens. When Cesur goes to comfort her, Suhan drives away.

While Suhan looks on, Tahsin accuses of Cesur of starting the fires.

Cesur and his mother talk about his father having “given up”. Cesur tells her that his father always fought for his rights, but “they” got in his way.

We need some of those Turkish workers in California. According to what Adalet tells Tahsin over the phone, they’ve already replaced all the broken windows of the stores.

While Cahide sucks up to Mean Daddy, he asks Suhan why she’s there. She’s come to her father’s house. He says that maybe she has repented and come home. She tells him he should do more things for the people of Kordulag. Korhan agrees. [I’m not sure why the siblings brought this up right at this moment.] Tahsin tells Suhan that he came, almost on his knees, to ask her to celebrate her birthday with him. [leaving out the part where he only came there to get the letter from poor Ali, the mailman] He goes on to say that those paintings were hung in Cesur’s house. Cabide gasps. [God this woman’s sucking up is getting on my last nerve.]

Korhan has followed his sister as she’s about to leave. We see that Tahsin is overhearing their conversation. Korhan asks if Cesur hung those paintings. Suhan replies that they belong to his family. And he wanted to make his mother happy. Korhan asks her to ask Cesur to stop his vengeance. Suhan asks her brother if he’s supposed to forget the murder of his father.
 

amor-val

Parte 2

A friend of Necla, the pharmacy assistant, comes to say that Ali told her what happened. Tahsin Korludag told him that, if he gives the letter to Cesur, bad things will happen. Necla thinks the letter was from Turan.

Suhan sees the photo of she and Sirin with the portrait of Cesur’s grandparents in the background poking out of Cesur’s jacket. She almost drops it in the fire and burns her hand snatching it back. Cesur is tenderly caring for the burn. She looks at him and says: “if you love me as much as you say you do, you’d renounce the vengeance against my father.” Cesur: Me alegra no amarte en serio. (I’m happy that I don’t really love you. [This surprised me a lot. He’s said he DOES love her many times. And, going outside, he looks anguished at having said that.]

Necla calls to tell Cesur the news that the letter came from the prison. She thinks it was from Turan.

Rifat is following Conisario Modlulg and tells Cesur over the phone that his nose tells him something is up with the guy.

Sirin tells Suhan that the live-in nurse heard Cesur and Fugen talking for hours. It was about Cesur’s father having given up. Suhan wonders if Hasan Karahasanoglu may have killed himself. In that case her father would be innocent.

Reyhan helps Suhan sneak into her father’s house. I notice that Suhan heard Susanlynn’s words and is wearing a barette in her hair.

Hulya sends a copy of the photo she took of Korhan in the altogether with her snuggled up to him. She wants her passport y ya! or she’ll send the picture to the newspapers.

Suhan is in an attic searching for something among her mother’s things. Somehow she and Sirin can overhear Adalet on the phone on the floor below.

Banu and Cesur come to see Turan, who denies sending any letter.

Suhan berates herself for choosing her father over her mother. Looks like the warden, who saw Cesur and Banu at the prison, has called Adalet to say that Cesur has come to see Riza. [Doesn’t the warden know who people visit?]

Mihriban tells Cesur that Turan and Riza are in the same prison. Cesur: “Who is Riza?” The guy Rifat was following has come to the prison. Rifat approaches Cesur and Kemal. Over the phone Mihriban tells Cesur that Riza is Adalet’s brother.
 

amor-val

Thanks very much, novelera, for this excellent recap. I was especially glad that you mentioned that Salih first set the fire and then joined the others in trying to put it out. That's what I thought I saw, but I wasn't sure. I also wasn't sure just whose house(s) were on fire. The one we saw Salih set fire to didn't look familiar.

I don't think Cetin knew that Suhan was in the car when he was telling Cesur about Tahsin's nastiness. Toward the very end, I think she said just a word or two, and he realized she'd heard what he said, and I think he was sorry she heard it. Clearly she was sorry she heard it.

At one point, Cesur's mother tells him she has a secret she wants to tell him. She then says that she doesn't want to go on living. I'm not sure what to make of that. She's under the (mistaken) impression that her husband killed himself. Is she announcing that she wants to do likewise?

The scene where Tahsin asks Suhan why she's there (in his house) ends with Tahsin looking at his daughter and saying, "I don't want to see anyone from the Alemdaroglu family in my house. And I mean no one." That's why, when Suhan wants to look for something of her mother's, she has to sneak into the house with Reyhan and Sirin's help.

I too thought it strange that Suhan and Sirin could hear Adalet talking on the phone even though she was in a room one story below. I guess in addition to porous doors, Turkish houses may also have porous floors.

Necla's friend Bircan tells her that Ali Kerim (the mail carrier) told her that Tahsin took the letter he was taking to Cesur. Tahsin said if Ali gave it to Cesur it would put the town in peril. So now two more people know about this. When Necla hears that the letter came from the prison, she assumes it was from Turan. She calls to let Cesur know, including her assumption that the writer was Turan. So that's why Cesur and Banu go off to the prison to see Turan.

I enjoyed your comment "[Doesn’t the warden know who people visit?]." Good point.

Well, it looks as if Riza is finally on several people's radar, including Cesur's. I imagine that Adalet may be quite panicked at the warden's report that Cesur came to see Riza.
 

Amor Val

Novelera and Juanita thanks for marking things clear....well clearer with this mixed up fairytale .

Thanks for explaining why Cesar suspected that his mail was tampered with. I am keeping an eye on my mailbox if I see my neighbor Dwayne skulking around my driveway.

Cesar cares for and kisses Suhan's booboo...awww...Then he tells her " I'm happy that I don't really love you. " I guess he is just saying this now that she is unsure of him..again...and backing away. The daisy game we used to play " He loves me....he loves me not..he loves me"

Rifat is like a dog with a bone , and Cesar is proactive. Cesar and Ban u immediately went to see Turan. I guess Banu wants to impress Cesar and maybe get him back.



 

Amor Val

Thank you novelera! Ditto both Juanita and Susalynn’s comments! I honest don’t get Salih! Not at all, not for a minute! He’s the worst kind of rat, and I honestly don’t think Mean daddy will be able to trust him either, in the long run. Reyhan and Sirrin are in for a BIG surprise when all his dastardly deeds are revealed! Obviously Salih was never his own man, from the looks of things, and if he was before Mean daddy made him sell him his land, he was a weak one. Doing someone else’s bidding for most of your life is a sad and shameful way to have to live……..

I understand both Suhan and Korhan wanting Cesur to walk away, but that’s not a subject that you broach in the middle of Mean daddy continuing to do horrible things to make Cesur look bad. I think it was very selfish of Suhan to bring it up when she did, especially knowing how much Cesur has been hurt by all of this. There’s a time and place for everything, and this certainly was not it! At the same time, I understand…….sigh………

Cahide is a class “A” booty sucker, and it seems like Mean daddy enjoys it! So nauseating! Adalat is all the way in too! Now we know, for sure, that she will go along with ANYTHING Mean daddy wants to do! Thing that bothers me the most is that her and Cahide need to keep their stupid, snide remarks to themselves! They’re the worst kind of witches with a “B!” And what’s up with Pharmacy girl?!?!? How’d she get Cesur’s phone number? Why does she care——-that much——— about making sure that Cesur is up to snuff about what’s going on??? Weird if you ask me…..

Seriously though, I never thought that Suhan was EVER going to finish climbing that stairway to heaven!! How many stories is that house anyway??? And last but not least, isn’t it Suhan’s house now???? According to her Mom’s will??? Kick all their azzes to the curb girl!!
 

Amor Val

Carmella, like you, I was trying to figure out why Pharmacy girl was suddenly supplying Cesar with information . I noticed her giving him a smile the last time he was downtown and Adalet ( and all of us) were staring at him.

And yes, how many stories is that house with its spiral staircases??? And Sir and Suh could hear Adalet on the phone in the room below . Que?

Add to Cesar's list of galan talents ....first aid. What else does this guy need to do to convince Suhran that he is a keeper and the marriage should be for realz?
 

amor-val

Thank you novelera for the recap. I didn’t get to watch until lunchtime today and I see I am way late to the commenting party. I ditto many of the observations that Juanita, carmella and Susanlynn offered.

Cahide is on my last nerve as well novelera. I can’t wait for her baby plot to be discovered.

Porous doors and porous floors (thank you Juanita). I was puzzled why Suhan could hear Adalet but she could not hear Suhan and Sirin through the same floor?

Suhan should have kept her mouth shut for a day or two so Cesur didn’t have to be so direct in his comment to her. He did seem super upset by hearing those words come out of his mouth. Maybe he should have taken the “ask me no questions and I will tell you no lies” approach instead.

How can Mean Daddy kick Suhan out of her own house? I with carmella in kicking everyone to the curb.

Sirin and her gossipy workmates are a problem for me. She can’t keep anything to herself!

Let’s hope we learn more about Riza tonight!

 

Amor Val

Cihan!!!
 

amor-val

Susanlynn, I too was a bit surprised that Necla (aka Pharmacy Girl) called Cesur to tell him what her friend Bircan had learned from Ali (aka Postal Delivery Boy). I decided that Necla had a thing for Turan, she assumed the letter was from Turan, and she wanted to do anything that might help him. I had forgotted about the smile Cesur gave Necla--that too may explain her eagerness to help Cesur as well as Turan. Or perhaps the answer is None of the Above. I guess we'll see.
 

amor-val

(ep.#30)
There were a number of interesting things in this episode, but there was one I at first found rather confusing. I watched it this part again, and I thought I'd post what I think happened.

We've learned in previous episodes that Riza is Adalet's brother. He has been in prison for 30 years. He wrote a note to Cesur. The warden called Adalet to tell her that Riza had sent the letter. She panicked and told Tahsin that the letter must not reach Cesur. Tahsin manages to intercept the letter as the mail carrier was about to deliver it.

However, Adalet and Tahsin are still worried about what Riza may do or say, especially since he's about to be released (I think). Tahsin and his corrupt buddies arrange to have Riza "silenced." In tonight's episode, he tells Adalet "We're going to get rid of him." Adalet says, "He'll die." Tahsin replies, "We all die eventually, we just don't know when."

We see that Rifat is watching the van that is supposedly carrying Riza to a different prison. Rifat tries to call Cesur to ask about this, but Cesur is busy with Suhan and doesn't answer, so Rifat leaves a voicemail message. In his car, he follows the van, with a car carrying Muftu and another plotter in beween Rifat and the van. Muftu then pulls ahead of the van and makes a phone call, asking someone if he's ready. Yes. The "ready" guy then drives a truck into the van, injuring the van driver. Rifat, following close behind, is also injured in the crash and is sitting unconscious in his car.

Muftu and the other plotter rush to the van's door and pull it open. Muftu says, "Look at me. Are you OK?" The camera focuses on the unconscious Rifat, and at first it seems Muftu has asked Rifat whether he's OK. But we see the scene again after the commercials, and we see then that Muftu was talking to the van driver, as his plotter friend was reaching for the keys to the back of the van. Muftu takes the keys and opens the van's back door. Pointing his gun inside the van, he says, "Look how important you are, Riza. We've arranged this just for you. Sorry, but I'm just following orders." He's about to shoot, but instead a shot seems to come from inside the van. Muftu falls to the ground. We see a man in handcuffs emerge from the van and run away.

In a slightly later scene, we see Muftu being treated in bed for a leg wound. He gets a call from Tahsin. "Tell me that he didn't get away," Tahsin says. Muftu gives him the bad news. Tahsin is outraged: "You and your men can go to hell. What do I pay you for?" Finally, he tells Muftu "I want you to disappear right now and get rid of that phone." Muftu says he'll do so.

Somewhere in the middle of all this, we find out that Rifat is in the hospital. Banu has called Cesur. Cesur and Rifat's son and wife meet Banu at the hospital. Banu tells them that Rifat suffered cranial fractures. He has just come out of surgery and is in intensive care.

I hope this will help get the conversation started about this rather eventful episode.
 

Amor Val

Thank you Juanita——as always! Such a lovely episode (Cesur and Suhan) interspersed with the ugly——Mean daddy’s attempt to kill Riza for once and for all! Mean daddy must drink a jug of evil when he wakes up in the morning, trying to cover all his sins! Why do people seem to think that covering past sins is best served dark and dirty instead of doing the right thing, period! It was too funny that Mean daddy had no idea that Adalat has been visiting Riza! Hahaha you blue-eyed $itch! Sputtering like you just got caught stealing someone’s leftovers out the fridge, lol! And, why, why,why,why have you been visiting Riza all these years if you were so easily going to agree to having him killed? Riza has definitely got some power over the demon couple, which tells, me, that he’s probably not a very nice person either……but who would be after his own blood helped make it easy for him to serve 30 yrs, and chose her own hide instead……They also made it clear, early on, that he was involved in some dirty dealings with their orphanage director, right? .Riza’s letter makes sense now, that Hasan was killed twice. And even though Adalet provided the gunshot, Mean daddy made sure he was dead for real, for real…….

Why is Cahide still allowed to speak?!?! Somebody help her have an allergic reaction so that her tongue swells up and she can’t speak FOREVAH! I truly hope that Korhan really means that he is sick of her! We certainly are! So the new DA is our old whiney Hercai alum, Cihan! Looking much younger with all his own hair, lol. Hope he doesn’t become one of Mean daddy’s puppets too. He seem like an upstanding guy with the little we’ve been given…..we’ll see…….

Rifat is on the ball! But honestly, people who are being followed, 9 times outta 10, know that they are being followed! SMH! I guess being an ex cop, Rifat is privvy to confidential information? Or was he just watching the prison to keep an eye on things? Did I miss something? The warden is certainly on edge now!

I wanted more of Cesur and Suhan! They missed each other and their parting words really hurt! I was so glad that she was equally happy to see him and didn’t turn cold and icy. She was stunning in that black dress, and her décolletage was so graceful and swan like. She needed no jewelry there, and only wore earrings and her ring. It was perfect! For once I was glad that nosey-dosey Sirrin interfered, lol. Still, that girl has a hot man of her own! I’d be all over him and, sorry to say, eff Cesur and Suhan! She plays her part well though, no denying that……..

So Riza is on the loose, and if I were Adalat, Id be afraid too……very afraid!!

Thanks again Juanita!!
 

Amor Val

Nuanita, thanks for getting the party started.



Carmella...Cihan!!!! Is he going to be like Melman from Seinfeld and keep popping into our novelas? He is a warrior in Kurulus Osman. I wonder if he is wearing a toupee in this show and if he has appeared for good or evil.

Poor Rifat cannot catch a break. As Cesar wines and dines Suhan, our poor Rifat gets in an accident . Hey, he has a wife and son ! Do they ever see him since he is always out and about and getting injured or arrested while on this case?

More galan action for Cesar. He is creatively romantic . Night at the museum and dinner for two.
 

amor-val

Thank you Juanita for the recap highlights. Thank you also for walking me through the prisoner escape events. I was confused about what was going on and could not figure out how Muftu was shot. It makes sense that there was a guard or someone in the transport van with Riza.

Poor Rifat continues to get the short end of the stick. Looks like the divorce from his wife took a toll on his son.

carmella, you have an eagle eye. I did not notice the new dude was Cihan!! Maybe because he had real hair.

I could have done with more Cesur romancing. Sirin for a change did something right with her blabber mouthing skills. I definitely like the softer, no angry bangs, barrette wearing Suhan.

I don’t think Riza is a hero in anyway. I also recall that he was involved with the orphanage director’s shady business. I am sure Adalet probably suffered at his hands and that is why she is so scared and didn’t care about Tashin offing him.

“Riza’s letter makes sense now, that Hasan was killed twice. And even though Adalet provided the gunshot, Mean daddy made sure he was dead for real, for real…….” carmella, I still don’t understand the letter Riza wrote to Cesur, we saw Adalet shoot Hasan, are you saying he wasn’t dead and maybe Riza or Tashin made sure the final shot was fatal?

Time for work! Thanks again Juanita!

 

Amor Val

VVS...I think the "being killed twice" might have to do with Hasan being shot and then put in a car to make it look like a car accident . ???
 

amor-val

Ahhhh, thanks Susanlynn. I had not even considered the fake car accident to coverup the shooting. That would make sense about Hasan "being killed twice."
 

amor-val

Thanks so much, Juanita, for your excellent description of the big "prisoner escape". Have you considered a career as the one who writes up crime scene reports?

Why won't these writers allow Viewerville even a smidgen of romance? Suhan was quite touched by Cesur's romantic museum dinner. And, yes, she looked drop-dead gorgeous. It was kind of interesting that Cesur ignored his phone but she did not. But then they somehow needed to find out about what happened to Rifat.

If I understand what's been said correctly, Adalet has been coming to the prison to visit Riza but he has refused to see her.

I had forgotten that he was involved in the child trafficking. My brain had sort of said he was an innocent victim of Tahsin.

So...here's what puzzles me. Riza is in prison for 30 years. It can't be for killing Hasan since that's been set up as a car crash death. Why is he in prison?

Unbelievable! I did not recognize the actor who played Cihan at all. And, yes, Carmella, we are on the same page about Cahide. She cannot keep her freakin' mouth shut.

It looks like those pictures Hulya had have appeared in the Turkish tabloids. Guess Mean Daddy doesn't see those because he hasn't berated Korhan more than his usual amount. Cahide definitely picked the wrong person to carry "the heir". Looks like she's dealing with a stone psycho.

I still don't understand how Riza got a gun. Hope he got some keys to the handcuffs. How I enjoy Tahsin's bug-eyed fury when another of his plots goes awry!
 

amor-val

Thanks, everyone, for your great comments. I too was astonished to learn that the new DA is the same actor who played Cihan. I certainly didn't recognize him. In fact, when carmella posted just the word Cihan with a few exclamation points, I had no idea why. Fortunately, she later made it clear.

Susanlynn, I too thought that Riza's saying Hasan died 2X referred to his being shot and then being tossed over the cliff in his car to make it look like suicide.

Like novelera, I was initially mystified about how there was a shot from inside the prison van. I think VVS may have provided the answer: it's likely there was a guard inside the van with the handcuffed Riza to make sure nothing happened to help him escape. It now seems likely that the guard was the one who fired right before Muftu was able to shoot Riza. Since there was more than one gunshot, I think it's likely that Muftu did manage to get off a shot, but it apparently didn't hit Riza. I'm not sure whether it hit the guard or just went astray.

As for why Riza is in prison, I'm assuming it was for shooting the orphanage director. Adalet was the one who shot him, but it's quite possible that willingly or (more likely) unwillingly, Riza was arrested and convicted for the murder. (I suppose it's possible that it was for some crimes that he and the orphanage director committed together, but for now I'm sticking with his having been wrongfully convicted of killing the orphanage director.)
 

amor-val

Here is what I remember from episode #31:

The Cihan DA tells Tashin that he has a lot of cases on his desk with against him. He also wants to talk to Cahide about the nurse and would like to know more information about the letter. He shakes hands and leaves for a minute then returns and overhears a conversation between Mean Daddy and Suhan regarding the letter. She is demanding he tell her what Riza wrote to Cesur.

Adalet tells Tashin that this is the end of the road. He tells her not yet. The DA detains Tashin and Adalet from flying away out of the country. Adalet visits the place where it all went down years ago. We see a flashback of Adalet the night she killed the director and Hasan. In present day, she yells at the place where Hasan fell after he was shot saying “I am not afraid of you!” (I guess she is talking about Riza).

Cahide is angry with Hulya about the tabloid pictures but Hulya just wants her passport. Cahide actually convinces Bulent to raid the office safe to find the passport when she cannot find it in Korhan’s safe at home. Korhan bust Bulent in the act but is too stupid to realize what is going on after Bulent give him a BS story. The passport was just in a desk drawer in his office. Korhan is off to the DA’s office to turn it over.

Everyone ends up at the DA’s office to give their statements. Cahide and Hulya have concocted another birdbrained scheme, but the DA doesn’t allow Hulya to leave even after Tashin snatches the passport out of Korhan’s hand and gives it to her.

Suhan is at least kind to Cesur and tells him that Rifat survives the surgery. Cesur is concerned that the DA is believing the lies Tashin told him about the letter and Riza.

We do learn through Tashin’s statement (not sure how much we can believe) that Riza was involved in selling his sister for sex to fund his drug habit. Tashin rescued her from that life and now she is the only one he trusts completely.

The episode ends with Mean Daddy remembering all the things Suhan has recently told him about how she used to be proud to be his daughter. He stares at her picture and the hurls it angrily to the floor.

I am sure I missed a lot, but hopefully this helps get the conversation started.

 

amor-val

Thanks VERY much, VVS, for all this great detail to get the discussion started. I found especially helpful your saying that Tahsin claimed that Riza sold his sister for sex to fund his drug habit. Like you, I'm not sure whether Tahsin is telling the truth, but it's possible.

I'm still not sure who called Adalet when she was waiting at the DA's office. She up and left and apparently went to the scene of the crime (where she shot Hasan and the orphanage guy). I'm not sure why, except that the writers wanted her to have a flashback.

I was interested to see that Suhan is still hoping to keep loving her father. Near the beginning of the episode, she tells him that she's ready to apologize and ask his forgiveness, as long as he is innocent. Sorry Suhan, you're not likely to get your wish. Even though Adalet was the actual shooter, Tahsin has been mixed up in zillions of ugly schemes/crimes. I see no way that he'll meet Suhan's innocence criterion/fervent wish.

I enjoyed the scene where Korhan catches Bulent in his study and realizes that Bulent has opened his safe. Gee, Bulent, how did you get the combination?

Gotta run, but I wanted to add to your great beginning, VVS.
 

Amor Val
VVS and Juanita, the thank you for your comments .

When Adalet was having the flashback at the scene of the crime, two police men showed up . Did they follow her when she left ?

Does it look like the old Cihan is going to be a good guy ? Tahsin gets really offended whenever the police cone for him. How dare you!!! I am Tahsin.

I have no idea what end game is for Cahide and Hulya . Do people ( and dim Korhan) realize that she is pregnant ?

I hope that we get more Suh and Cesar and less of the bad guys tonight.

 

amor-val

Juanita, I also enjoyed the passportcapade with Cahide, Bulent and Korhan. I laughed when Korhan just pulled the passport out of a desk drawer after all the drama with the safes.

Susanlynn, I don’t know who called Adalet nor did I understand why those two cops were at the scene of the crime. It does look like the Cihan DA is trying to be a good guy. Tashin is sure full of himself!

I am done with all the escapades for a bit. Let’s bring on some romance.

 

amor-val

Very late to the recaps and comments today. Thanks so much VVS for your pretty comprehensive description of what happened. My company keeps expecting me to really work from home instead of spending time on Caray!

I just can't get over DA Cihan. He looks 15 years younger. I have noticed, however, with co-workers who get a wild hair and shave off a beard I've seen for years, that they look SO baby-faced. He DID have a beard in Hercai, didn't he? Or maybe he had some "work" done to get younger roles.

It was nice to see Korhan actually put two and two together when a call came through from Cahide. That is to say he realized that Cahide had to be the one who gave Bulent the combination to his safe. Also, Cahide flat out said that whatever she was asking Bulent to do could not be worse than setting a fire (the one that Cesur saved Tahsin from way back when). So she's still using that weapon to get him to do her will. Why Bulent doesn't just say: your secret is more explosive than my secret, so go right ahead and tell Tahsin and/or Korhan I started a fire makes no sense.

I noticed that Hulya was wearing some kind of black poncho that flared out from her shoulders. I think that was why no one could see the "bump".
 

Amor Val

Thanks so much VVS! I’m also late to the commenting board, but I really look forward to it! I feel bad that Adalat had to suffer at the hands of her brother, but that still doesn’t make it right in her killing Hasan. If she were truly sorry, she would at least be nice to Cesur. I love Cesur’s approach to calming down his anger. He admits that he needs a minute to calm down and walk it off. He was so good in both calming and putting Rifat’s son in his place. One thing about Cesur——he is not going to take the blame for something he did not do, or fall into anyone’s “ guilt trip.” He is a very good galan!

Mean daddy keeps digging himself deeper and deeper, and I’m glad he and Adalet were stopped before they made a run for it! Still he lies, and lies and lies! He’s such a natural that he doesn’t even have to put much thought in his lies——-they just roll off his tongue. I, too, am glad that Korhan is putting the puzzle pieces together! He really is a decent guy who doesn’t like being taken for a fool. Cahide is the worstest wife ever! Putting her husband through this!

At least our DA seems to have a mind of his own…..so far…yay!
 

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