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KARSU

Yes. Now that I'm back after about five years. This one brings back the Turkish tellies of yore. My husband really likes these & he's Mexican. This one is kinda hard to get into as the mother seems to be an ad for deep therapy as well as a hefty drug regime. I mean I don't even know how these two even had kids. He's about as appealing as horrible blind date Satan fixed you up with. Seriously did he get her from a Elon Musk AI site and personality was extra?

The premise would be life shattering but geez..why were these people so miserable to start out?
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Lost in a bus station fever dream
 

Juegos #42 part 1

Oh yeah, I'm pretty sure Enrique is Memo's father. Mariana was about to tell him something but Memo brought her some pills which interrupted the confession. Enrique thanks Memo for saving their lives and hugs him which makes Mariana look pleased.

Adrian is seeing dead people....i.e. Tobias. He's getting a bit loco.

Omar gets upset with Elena for making the video about Grenas with Enrique as her champion in getting justice for Toby's death. She is grateful that he has paid Susy and the baby's medical bills. She keeps calling Mario her baby. After she leaves to calm down Omar tells Susy he needs to tell her the truth.

Karina claimed she got an unknown call that Gaby has been kidnapped and that was why she called Roberto. He realizes she pulled him away from the case. He goes back and sees German and Enrique leaves the house ( the body was removed in a black garbage bag probably put in a box truck which left just before Roberto returned to the Solis house. He gets a call from Quirino Hernandez ( his boss) that the search warrant for Memo had been denied. He goes back to Karina and accuses her of helping Enrique hide something. Enrique shows up at her place next and she finds out about memo killing Grenas. She tells him Roberto is on to them. She may lose her daughter. She stood by him for Adrian but this isn't part of the deal. He says Francisco is behind Grenas being jailed, stabbed, etc

Luci meets with Roberto about the Capital creciente papers. He fills her in on Karina using Gaby. They make headway on the case. Sounds like funds were taken from accounts in small amounts.

Adrian goes to Tobias grave and apologizes for what he's done. Elena and Daniel show up.with flowers. What are you doing here. He tells them he feels responsible for Tobias death because his car was stolen and hit him

Earlier scene Daniel quits his job. Alex dad's name is Luis. I think it's the first time I've heard it used.
 

Juegos #42 part 2.

Pow wow at Enrique's house about Grenas murder. Francisco, Ines, Berta, German are there. Enrique shows up with Karina on his heels which goes over like a lead balloon until he explains how she saved their bacon Grenas body will appear somewhere soon it seems so Roberto will pursue finding his killer I think. They are going to tie it to drug crimes in some way. I think Karina may have been recording some of the conversations on her phone but I'm not sure.

Enrique gets his wife and lover to agree to work together. When Ines asks for facts about their affair Enrique is happy to fill her in on when and where he and Karina had their trusts. She slaps him for his gloating, but if course they will work together
 

Karsu

Being back after 5 years have you always been anonymous or do you have a name you use. I've been here 2 years now but read a lot of old recaps as I only started watching TNs 2 years ago.

Karsu was probably suffering from post partum depression after baby #3 arrived and after losing Kenzy ( not sure I'll get the names right this early in) she hasn't had a chance to get out of the depression.

Do you think the boy in the boat is him? Sounds like the mother wasn't with the dad and he got the child after she died. I couldn't tell if the photo was the same girl from the bus. I watched the first 2 episodes the next day which gives English CC's. Airtime episodes the CC's are in Spanish.

I can't believe the husband has a beautiful lover, of course Karsu's best friend. He certainly has no sex appeal to me!

Is Filiz interested in the artist moving in for herself or her niece?
 

A.MAR, DONDE EL AMOR TEJE SUS REDES

Hmmmm . . . a summer novela with beautiful people that takes place at the beach (it was filmed in Puerto Vallarta), has consistently good ratings in Mexico and a definite 90 episodes (it was lengthened from 80 to 90) . . . I think I have to give this one a look-see

I will recap the first episode on Monday. The recap will be up Monday night orTuesday morning. If it’s a “thumbs up” kind of novela, maybe we can get a team of recappers together to cover it.

EL EXTRAÑO RETORNO DE DIANA

They still must be making too much money off of it on VIX to show it on Uni or they are waiting for Sunday night soccer to end. I check every week.
 

KARSU

Wow, this is really melodramatic, which is saying something because after all, we’re in telenovelaland.

Kat – I’m thinking that yes, the boy on the boat is him. The fact that the “dad” met his wife when the boy was 3, and that she has died points to that. Also, I remember the absconding lady was slender, with a high-bridged nose, and the lady in the photo looked similar. And the boy held his hand up to the wind in the same way he did when he was leaving with his grandmother.

What I was wondering was – if the grandmother wanted to look under the clothes of the boy at the bus station to see a birthmark, why didn’t Karsu ask to look for that birthmark? Also, I’m thinking the boy at the bus station was him, as I believe the “mom” with him looked similar, but I’m not sure.

Karsu is working from sketches the fellow made for her, but the grandmother hadn’t seen those. Could she recognize the boy?

And yeah, wow the husband is awful!


 

Karsu

I was hoping the older daughter had managed to grab a hair from his head, but what 10 year old has that presence of mind. I thought Karsu was going on the school trip with her daughter. Got that wrong.
 

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Thanks Kat, that was excellent. Memo really leaned into that hug from Enrique. I know it’s been mentioned about Memo being his son but I never saw anything in the show that made me think that. I wondered why that’s a theory. If it’s true I feel sorry for Inez, even though I don’t like her. She was cheated on early in the marriage and now. Enrique deserved that slap too. He was unusually cruel to her.

I didn’t understand the numbers that had been on the papers being some clue to the deposit numbers. But a lot of the business dealings in telenovelas is way over my head.

I think Omar is going to get himself killed. He seemed ready to tell Suzy who really killed Toby. Then he was talking to Roberto about Grenas and Joachin was listening.

I like that Karina is getting scared of what’s going on. Although once she agreed to the coverup for Adrian she became an accomplice. I guess it took Robert’s threats to scare her. I hope that don’t decide Roberto needs to be taken out. Memo wanted to after he killed Grenas. He was so calm and nonchalant, Francisco should have him working for him.
 

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Liz, it's been me speculating about Memo's paternity. There have been hints along the way. The rushed marriage to Mateo, the bickering between the sisters, the fact this is a telenovela and secret babies are usually a gimmick in them. I've been wrong in my guesses in the past, but I'm really feeling this ,"fact" especially as Mariana was all set to tell Enrique something from long ago, and the look on her face when the two hugged. It makes her appalled look when she saw Memo lusting after Pato more understandable. Of course there is also a possibility Pato wasn't sired by Enrique also Leonardo was in the sisters lives at that time too.

I haven't quite figured out how Leonardo fits in the story yet.

I also get glazed eyes and deaf ears when business is discussed. Is it because I don't understand it, or is it because non business people are writing the scripts and they make no economic sense ...take your pick.
 

Marsh

I have been watching , but I am pretty lost. The leading actress played a devoted mother and tragic figure,in " Mujer." It was,such a sad story , but I couldn't stop watching . susan
 

Karsu ...whoops ..autocorrect preferred "Marsh"
 

KARSU

Another question – why did Karsu jump in the water to swim to the other boat? A swimmer can’t catch up to a moving boat. Also, she had chartered a boat just for her daughter and her, so why not tell the pilot “Follow that boat”?

 

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Kat, what you said about Memo makes sense. And I see no love or affection between him and his dad, although he’s not what one would call lovable! And brothers as mates would be creepy, even without a chance of pregnancy.
 

Karsu

Very good point, Maggie, about jumping in the water. Perhaps it was for dramatic effect, but asking their skipper to follow the boat would make more sense!

Often telenovelas and dizis try to show the call of the blood, where a mother can sense her children. I think that is what Karsu is sensing, and maybe her mother as well.

I also wondered why Karsu didn’t mention the birthmark while they still had the kid.

I sense a bit of a dysfunctional family here. The dad is a jerk for sure. But, the kids really seem to be competing for affection. Kusey was very jealous of the new baby. The older daughter is jealous of the missing Kusey (and both girls feel ignored due to the three year mourning of the mother.) I liked that Karsu took her out for a day to make up for her not getting to go on a field trip. But, she “sees” Kusey and jumps in the water, undoing any points she may have gained. In Mujer, I don’t recall the kids being jealous, so a very different situation.

I’m fascinated with her mother’s tenant! Somehow mother and daughter have to reconcile!!!

Babachita


 

Karsu

Hi, Babachita . In " Mujer",the little girl and boy were very close and loving to each other and their mother . Their love and devotion and positivity despite their tragic situation and poverty was touching. Susan
 

Juegos #43 part 1

*Grenas body was dumped in some woods and the story goes he was tortured by a gang.
*Memo is detailed to Francisco's team since he is owed a job. Far from Pato and Adrian. Francisco thinks he is a bad influence on them. Enrique will give him the news.
*Navarez tells Leonardo he needs some dirt on Enrique ASAP. If he doesn't get something soon then he is useless to him. Ines arrives at his apartment. They kiss.
*Joaquin calls Berta. He tells her he overheard Roberto talking to Omar. Omar told him about Adrian praying at the crash site and asking forgiveness. Also Elena and Daniel have moved into the hostel where he lives. Luci is naive and still believes in Adrian and he is feeding her information on the capital case.
*Luci and Roberto discuss Grenas death, Adrian at the crash site, Omar and his fury. She tells him that his anger stems back to losing his money in the capital case. That he is one of the people defrauded is news to Roberto. She can't understand why to the little people were stolen from, and hopes if the money is recovered they can be repaid.
*Francisco and Enrique fight about Adrian. Enrique blames Ines for never making him responsible for his actions.
*Ines and Leo post coitus talk...are you just getting back at Enrique or is it more? I couldn't tell if they had a prior sexual relationship from this discussion. Did anyone else understand more?
*Natalia and Manalo discuss the CC case. They are glad Roberto knows the truth. They discuss keys, I'm not sure why. Natalia says whoever stole the money has great seed money for a business.
* Segue to Memo and Pato discussing El Grupo Ferrabe, the family empire. It was the brainchild of Francisco 20 years ago, per Pato. One of the partners or workers is mentioned, Tomas? Not sure if he will be pertinent to the story. Memo gets a text from Enrique.
*I can't believe Enrique and Karina's affair hasn't been discovered. He's at her house again. Leonardo should hire a Pi instead of seducing Ines.
*Victoria follows Joachin to a classy hotel. He's in an elevator with a bratty kid that keeps pushing the open button. He sees her and they have a fight as she is sure he is being unfaithful to her. Well that is one way of getting out of sleeping with the enemy. Bertha is not happy Joachin has stood her up and she won't let him explain.
* Adrian is still trying to talk to Alexa. Francisco goes to his room to chew him out about crying at the accident site. He assures him said nothing. Francisco says if you continue to be so imprudent well all end up in jail. Did you here about Grenas. Adrian says yes, I heard it on the news. Francisco informs him it wasn't some happy fate that took him out as he seems to believe. That brings Adrian into the room ( as he had locked himself in his dressing room or bathroom). A: did you kill him? Memo did to save your father and to keep him from talking.
*Ines arrives home wonder what Dad is doing there. He tells her he was talking to Adrian. I've had enough of his stupidity.


 

Juegos #43 part 2

* Victoria goes to Roberto's apartment ( Luci is there also). She tells him I've ruined it. Joachin knows I'm spying on him. Joachin, no dummy, realizes she's put a tracker on his car and smashes it.
*Mariana is assed out on her bed, looks like a bottle of pills next to her. Mateo is talking to Carla to set up a rendezvous and ignores her. Memo comes in and puts a pillow under her head and informs dad I killed Grenas, What? What it means is that nobody bothers my mom ( veiled threats I'm getting from this conversation)....then leaves.
*Daniel is dreaming about the party before the crash. This dream turns into a dance with Alexa and him alone in the nightclub. He then recalls him and Tobias being driven home. I'm guessing Tobias was so drunk he insisted on getting out and walking ( taxi or Uber perhaps). The two are standing in the road. Tobias says you defended me. Smash, they are hit by Adrian. Daniel recalls Alex voice after the accident. He then proceeds to dream he sees Adrian at the memorial site praying (in the dark with candles lit). Alex is also in this scene. He then remembers her saying we need to call an ambulance and help him. He wakes up..
*Joaquin has an IT girl, Ana, at the precinct check that his phone is clean. He flirts with her then leaves. Victoria says hi to Ana. What was Joachin doing here so early,?
*Roberto visits Omar in his store to earn him about Joachin. Omar wants to confess to Elena about what he did but Roberto says she is safer not knowing anything. Not sure I got this totally right. Victoria calls him about Joachin going to IT. Now I'm wondering if Ana did something to the phone to trap him. The upshot is the noose is tightening.
*Daniel tells Luci about the dream he had. She wonders how he is sure it is a dream and not a return of his memory.
*Quirino ( the Boss) is talking to Victoria and Joachin. He complains they are acting like high schoolers. He suspends them both.
* Daniel tells Luci he feels bad for what happened to Grenas. He wasn't the driver. I saw the news. He was killed in such a cruel way.
*Elena brings Enrique a check for what he paid the hospital. They talk about Grenas, how it didn't make her feel better to learn he is dead. Enrique tells her she owes him nothing and tears up the check.
* Looks like Roberto's setting Joachin up. When he is off suspension he wants him on his team.
*Memo would rather not work with Grandpa. Enrique tells him he needs his eyes and ears in Grandpa's office and butters him up that he is his trusted confidant.
* Mariana visits Luis. He tells her if she wants to pressure Alex, forget about it. She is not for sale I'll pay you back every penny. Why don't you want your daughter to date my son. It's the best thing for her. I don't want her anywhere near your son. I know it's he that killed Toby.
* Luci talks to Adrian at the college. Daniel is about to remember what happened the night of the accident.


 

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Kat, your recaps really help me make some sense of these confusing episodes. There is so much going on that I have trouble keeping track of the story lines.

I was upset at first about Victoria and Joaquin getting called on the carpet, although IMHO she probably should have retrieved the tracer before J found it. Apparently the dressing down was to set up Joaquin. This will be fun to watch.

Daniel is about to figure it out! What will he say/do to Alex? I seem to recall when he was recovering in the hospital that he recognized her voice.

I agree Memo must be Enrique’s. Do you think Memo knows? The mothers have been covering up a lot over the years. Now we have Leonardo in the mix…again!

I still feel sorry for Enrique most of the time. Francisco is the scary one. Many of the characters are being manipulated by him. I felt sad about Grenas.

It is fun watching Luci, Gaby, and Roberto. That must be satisfying for Gaby to be part of a family.

Not sure Karina’s choices are good ones. Is she genuinely in love with Enrique or only with his power? I keep thinking Enrique would be happy in a simpler life with Elena, if she kept playing the piano.

Interesting discussion with Pato about the family business, Grupo Ferrabe. Do we know what the family business was?

Thank you again for great recaps!

Babachita

 

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Babachita, I also got the feeling Enrique would be happy with Elena playing her piano. I also feel sorry for him, which I guess makes him a great actor. I also felt a bit sorry for him in the only other show I've seen him in, Nadie Como Tu.

I don't think Memo knows about his paternity, whatever it may be. Since this is a mystery show I feel they are keeping things to from us to be divulged along the way. I like that about it.

Did you get a feeling about Ana putting tracking software or anything on Joachin's phone?

I keep thinking that Adrian will kill himself. His guilt is so intense, he needs therapy big time.

I'm so glad Alex has her dad on her side. She also should get some therapy.

I didn't quite get why memo told Mateo that he killed Grenas. Probably just flexing his muscles and warning him how deadly an enemy he would be if his father doesn't tow his line.
 

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Thanks Kat, another great recap. I thought Victoria handled getting caught really well. She just seemed to be a jealous, possessive girlfriend. Then Roberto wanting him on his team. This should work in their favor.

I agree with you and Babachita about Enrique. He’d be a decent man if it wasn’t for the people he’s surrounded himself with. And it began with his horrible father. I don’t think I’ve ever seen him before but he is good. Stuck in a place he doesn’t want to be. Although when I think about his two year affair with Karina some of my sympathy for him disappears.

I wondered if the family business was started with the money from the Capital case.

Memo might just become a hit man for his grandpa!

It won’t be long before Daniel realizes what really happened. This is the second time he’s heard Alex’s voice at the accident scene.