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Papas #61 part 1

Days before the kiss we saw we see Lila and Bill together in several scenes. She is thinking that the heart wants what you never imagined. After the kiss Bill is worried about the fact that he’s her boss and the age difference. She points out she’s been on her own for a number of years so the age difference doesn’t matter. He mentions is the father of her brother and they’d have to face the whole family. Lila doesn’t care, but they’re going to keep their relationship a secret for a little longer.

Scarlet thinks she’s texting her dad, but it’s El,Cárcel. She says she wasn’t nice to him in the jail. He says we’re not going to talk about ugly things. Very soon he’ll see her but meanwhile don’t tell anyone you heard from me. It’s our secret. El Chacal thinks back to demanding his money from Facundo. The interest is doubling. He says Facundo’s can help him rob something. Facundo doesn’t want to. El Chacal brings up his daughter. He then calls a friend. He wants to find out who accused him of killing Gibron. He also needs to know about Hernan and Melina.

Bill doesn’t think they should meet in secret, she deserves more. They’re both worried about Emi’s reaction but Lila wants to see Tino’s face. Bill slept with Paulina, Aide and now her. She wants to see Paulina’s face too.

Uli is telling Emi how he’s excited about his career and studying for it. Emi says Uli is very different from him. Scarlet and Iker comes in and they talk about what they want to do. Íker tells Emi he knows they’ve had their differences but he’s his brother, he tells them all he loves them, they’re his family. Scarlet tells them he’s going to live with Tino, not his mother. Emi says his mother was the worse, he thought he wanted to live with her but she lied and deceived him.

Circe asks Checo he wants something more, they talk and he leans in to her. She thinks they should take it slow, she just got out of a relationship. He says whatever is good for her. He mentions Canada, she thinks he’s running away. they make a pact to help each other. He’s help her with her incisiveness and she’s help him with his grief over his mom. Lila walks by and then Bill. Circe decides she shouldn’t be sitting down.

Serena tells Prisma they need to find a place she can stay. Prisma is worried about telling Natalia they’re leaving Nazario. Serena feels she needs to denounce him. Prisma thinks that’s extreme, he could wind up in jail. Serena points out no one deserves to be beaten and live in fear. Prisma agrees.

Melina is,telling Nazario to remove everything pertaining to her in the business, she says something about Serena, I think she’s saying Serena will be blamed. She tells Nazario’s he’s her accomplice now. Peisma phones to tell him she and Natalia have left him. He calls her stupid and crazy. Melina can help him find her.

Liz
 

Papas #61 part 2

Uli is questioning Iker about where they lived, friends, school etc. He doesn’t seem to remember too much. Than Scarlet and Emi come in with water.

The doctor has called Gisela. Hernan has taken a turn for the worse. They may have to put him in a coma. Gisela feels he was ok earlier. She tells Aurelio they’ll never get him to confess. Aurelio thinks she needs to tell Tino. He also suggests turning his phone over to the police. She thinks that’s a good idea, the police, not Tino. She’ll do it tomorrow.

Rino and Iker are getting ready to leave Aide’s. She asked if they want anything to eat or drink, and tells Tino he looks tired. He says he’s fine. Iker agrees that he’s been getting along well with his siblings but he wants to go to the hotel with his dad. Gisela walks him and calls him the,father of the year. She wonders if he knows where he is, he doesn’t. She then mentions Melina. He says if you want to know something you need to ask me directly.

Serena and Natalia are in a taxi going to the bus station. She calls Clara Luz and tells her she and Natalia are going to her cousin’s. They’ll be back Sunday or Monday. They hang up and Clara Luz thinks Prisma seemed nervous and strange. Rudolf didn’t notice, he’s on his phone, seems he has a date. Melina calls Prisma wondering if she’s ok. Prisma tells her where they’re going. Melina thinks they should come to her house, they’ll be safe there. Natalia shouldn’t have to travel at night.

Serena is doing a post about violence in the home and how it affects the person and others in the home. The comments are not good. They say she’s boring, she’s supposed to entertain, Cheno is more fun. She says she can entertain but also talk seriously.

Our four detectives are discussing Melina’s past. Uli says he didn’t want to push Iker and make him suspicious. They decide they’ll all look at her pictures on social media,edit and see if they recognize anything.

Prisma tells Melina Nazario has been violent towards her but this time he went to far. Melina tells her that’s how relationships are, she probably provoked him. Prisma says no, she’s going to denounce him. Melina says if she does, family services will get involved and she’ll lose Natalia.

Uli finds a photo to help them. Melina and Iker are in a restaurant and they can see the name of it. They can go there and ask around. Circe says Melina’s smile looks so different. Uli tells them Iker said his mother changed after the accident. Circe wonders how an accident can change a personality. Chofis says trauma can do that.LIZ

LIZ
 

Papas #71 part 3

Jeni is wondering around the house. Poncho is up, they’ll kiss. She goes in the kitchen, she’s hungry. Poncho wonders how you can be hungry in the middle of the night. She’s worried about Cheno making her leave.

Nazario is at the door, singing. She doesn’t want Melina to open it but she tells her he loves her. He comes in apologizing. She says that doesn’t change anything. He says he can change. She’s not moved by that. He thanks Melina for finding them for him. Serena glares at Melina, who shrugs and says, Pardon.

Uli is at the C family’s. Chachito tells his dad and Serena that Chofis is going to another town with Uli. Chofis says Uli asked her to help her. He says it’s a project for the university. Cheno decides to record the three of them. He’s naming himself different kinds of dads.

Prisma prepares breakfast to thank Melina for having them. Natalia wonders why they didn’t go to the cousin’s. Melina says the highway was dangerous so she called her mom and invited her here. When she goes to brush her teeth Melina wonders what she’ll do. Nazario really,loves her. Prisma doubts that, and still plans to leave him. Melina says,she feels marriage is for life.

Melina tells Íker he needs to help her get Tino back. If he doesn’t she’ll separate him from his dad.

Natalia is ready to leave for school. Prisma tells her not to tell Pipe, or anyone, that they didn’t go to her cousin’s. Don’t tell them we were with Melina. Natalia doesn’t understand as they didn’t do anything wrong. As they open the door azario arrives bearing gifts. He says he’s hoping Prisma will take him back. Peisma tells him Natalia doesn’t know any of this. Natalia says she knows her dad can change and treat them right. Please. Prisma agrees but is crying.

Gisela gives the police Hernan’s phone. He says it’s not easy to get information from a person’s phone. They need a court order. Gisela says that he took all her money. The policeman knows that. He tells her to have patience.

Poncho’s friend wants a loan. Poncho tells him to leave him in peace and the guy says Poncho is a bad friend. Poncho says ok, but he can’t give him the amount he wants, he has to give part to Jeni. She tells him she’s pregnant.

Uli and Chofis are in Querétaro and find the place in the photo m

Serena is telling Melina something strange is going on with her social media. Serena says that’s normal. She thought she was going to tell her about Prisma.Melina tells her Prisma went back to Nazario. Chachita whines he’s hungry. As they leave he mentions Uli and Chofis being in Querétaro. Melina looks shocked.

Iker wants to spend the day with Tino,Tino thinks he should spend it with his
siblings. Iker says he has the dad he’s always dreamed of and wants to spend as much time by his side as possible. He remembers the secret Hernan told him, Tino isn’t his biological father, Hernan is! Iker thinks your identity might only exist in your imagination.

Liz
 

MONTEVERDE #48, Part 1of 4

Moises walks in the door like a little tornado asking Carolina why she broke his father’s heart. It’s complicated she answers. She says what a good, generous man Oscar is. Then why he queries, his face set in stone. She shakes her head and he leaves saying something about him wanting her to be his mother but now he doesn’t like her.

Carlos comes in asking Carolina about Oscar. He insults her and pointing his finger at her, demands to know what her relationship with Oscar Leon is! It’s personal she huffs and as he goes on, she tells him he is loco. He tells her he is out of patience and wants to see Andres.

Juanita sees Padilla outside with his suitcase, likely leaving town. He hands her something, perhaps (a bill?) for his services.

Upstairs Andres and his mother hug as she cries…

Lucas comes in to see Rosalia. He starts talking about Julieta but she doesn’t want to hear him and keeps writing. He closes her book and tries to explain that there IS a remote possibility he is the father of the baby and wants to do the right thing. He does love Rosalia. He grabs his hat and leaves as she thinks.

Carolina comes down the stairs with Andres and Carlos puts his arm around him and they leave. She sits on the stairs, in pain and weeping.

Diego walks into the bakery at the hotel and in the midst of some delish-looking cakes, flirts with Lucia. He has some good news for her (although I didn’t catch what it was).

Doris goes to Father Gabriel. She has a problem. It’s not Cárcamo; she loves him but he isn’t home much and she would like to get a job. Father is going to help her with her issue.

Smiling (just kidding) Nestor tells Eva he has a house for them to look at. She grabs her purse and they are off.

Manuel grouses as Juanita tells Hugo that Carlos is there to spend time with Andres. Hugo looks grim. Andres and Carlos talk by the picturesque lake. Andres mentions Moises and Carlos asks him who that is. Andres says he is his best friend (but Carlos should have remembered that, right? He met Moises when he stayed at Oscar’s). Andres is worried about his mother. It’s your fault she is in trouble he tells his father. Carlos dances around the obvious truth and tells Andres he is the most important thing to him. He hugs him.

Diana
 

MONTEVERDE #48, Part 2 of 4

Lucia and Diego have cappuccino and chat. He looks at her smiling. What is it she asks. Nothing he smiles, clearly having been bitten by the bug. The love bug! Are you asking me to be your novia she asks? Yes he says, smiling adorably. She grins right back at him.

Carolina, minus her veil, kneels in church and prays to the virgin. It’s me, Carolina she begins as she begs for her help sobbing uncontrollably.

Oscar pulls up in his car and enters the church. Carlos and Andres are outside and Carlos sees him. He sends Andres away as he stares at the church doors.

“Madre Celeste” Oscar whispers coming up to her. I can’t translate what he says but he speaks softly and is uncharacteristically calm and his words and demeanor clearly translate that he is still clearly in love with her. He pushes her hair back and they kiss. Unfortunately Carlos chooses that moment to come in and sees them kissing. Carolina pulls back and screams at Oscar as Carlos turns and leaves. Oscar, completely mystified at her change at heart retaliates, yelling back at her, walking out. What a hornet’s nest I mutter. She leans over a pew in despair as Carlos returns. When he returns and starts in on her she deflects, asking where Andres is. Carlos, like a dog with a bone, demands to know about Oscar. He grabs her in anger as she calls him off. She tells Carlos all of this is his fault and asks again where is Andres?

Lucia goes to visit Rosalia. She tells her things have happened so quickly but Diego and I are novios! Rosalia stops her delighted grin mid smile as Franco has come in and heard everything. He walks up to Lucia putting his finger on her chin. We don’t have a future she tells him. He tells her he respects her decision but she is the love of his life. And just like that, every scintilla of joy leaves Lucia.

Juan David tells Angelina he has to go to Zacatillo! My ears perk up immediately; does that mean we see another show?? He tells Angelina she can go to see her mother.

Rosalia comes back in and Lucia is now sad and on the verge of tears. Rosalia empathetically talks about being in her shoes.

Carolina tells Andres to say goodbye to his father. Carlos stares stonily as he bids goodbye to his son saying te quiero mucho.

Father Gabriel asks Manuel if he might have some extra work for Doris. He thinks he can accommodate her. Manuel then asks the long-suffering padre how Gloria is.

Oscar asks Moises to leave him alone when the lad asks about Sister Celeste. Nopis, he is sticking. Oscar says he is respecting the mother’s decision. Oscar ends up apologizing to his son for his sharp attitude.

Diana
 

MONTEVERDE #48, Part 3 of 4

Carlos pumps Manuel about the lack of cell service and the police. Manuel asks him if Andres is his son. Yes. Manuel tells him what a good boy he is. Carlos then asks about Oscar and learns he and Sister Celeste spend time together.

Finally! Impending strip show alert!! Juan David and Hugo are standing in what appears to be a rather luxurious dressing room. (Clearly Juan David is getting better gigs!) There are windows and luxurious, heavy red drapes. There is a large mirror framed with light bulbs. There is also a zebra throw, soft lighting and high-end couches. Flowers and tasteful decorations complete the room.

Juan David stands in a beige and red plaid shirt, bandana and what appears to be dark jeans. All of a sudden, he panics thinking he forgot his mask!! Not to worry, Hugo pulls the sequin adorned mask out of Juan David’s bag. Juan David adds his sparkling black cowboy hat and he is ready to go!

Oscar, Moises and Franco are having dinner when Eva comes in asking to speak to Franco alone. Moises is very interested and wonders what she wants. Oscar looks after Franco thoughtfully. Eva explains about Nestor’s work and that they are going to move. She is upset that her and Franco’s relationship isn’t what she wanted and wipes tears from her eyes and hopes they can stay in touch. Por favor can I have a hug she asks. Claro he answers. She hugs him and he looks sad.

The women (Carolina included) are playing cards and Trinidad, clearly distracted, is asked to come down to earth. Doris arrives, announcing she is going to work at Manuel’s; all are thrilled.

We see a full moon against a dark sky as Andres has nightmares. Juanita jumps up and runs to his side. He is afraid Carlos is going to separate him from his mother. Don’ t worry she assures Andres comfortingly.

Rats! We didn’t get to see the show!! ☹

It’s the next morning and Juan David is making eggs for everyone.

Carlos enters the inn, wanting to see Andres. He is in class she says angrily. He threatens to reveal who she is. She warns him and grimaces after her leaves.

“Lucia” Franco smiles, running into Lucia in the street, cake in hand. A car pulls up, Belén alights and runs out to greet Lucia as does Diego who kisses her.

Diana
 

MONTEVERDE #48, Part 4 of 4

Everyone decides to accompany Angelina to her doctor’s appointment. When the doctor comes out, he asks who is going to sit in on what I gather is a sonogram. Juan David pipes up that he is the father, Gloria that she is Angelina’s mother and Father Gabriel that he is the tio! They ALL go with her.

Lucia introduces Franco as an amigo (ouch). Franco smiles and is gracious as he watches Lucia and Diego kiss and walk away.

The doctor is performing the test and then sees something and wants to take a closer look.

Franco tells Rosalia that he ran into Lucia, her novio and his daughter. He asks if she forgave Lucas she said no but it’s different. Franco is clearly hurting.

It seems the doctor has heard more than one heartbeat; everyone is thrilled at the fact there will be two hijos!! Juan David faints dead away as Father Gabriel tries to revive him (Gloria halfheartedly fanning him with her newspaper). He wakes up and he and a delighted Angelina hold hands.

Lucas tells Oscar he is going in search of his mother. He pulls out his cell and shows it to Oscar. Oscar raises his head slowly and stares at Lucas. This is your mother he asks? Yes Lucas answers. Oscar speaks slowly, lost in thought. Years ago he tells Lucas, she was my girlfriend!

Even if Carlos hadn’t interrupted them, looking at the starstruck look on Carolina’s face when Oscar kissed her, I don’t think she would have told him the truth. How many more rejections will he need to give up??

So are Lucas and Franco half-brothers?? Might well be, we will just have to wait.

We were robbed at not seeing the show!! Next time, hopefully.

Diana
 

PAPAS

Liz, your recap captured tonight's shocking events with great wisdom. Such treachery, cruelty and unfathomable actions. It was one hit after another. All beyond startling and horrifying.

"He remembers the secret Hernan told him, Tino isn’t his biological father, Hernan is!" I can only imagine how shocked (and likely horrified) Iker was. Yet he kept this heartbreak to himself. Which is worse - having Hernan as a father or Melina as a mother? I can't help but wonder how on earth that could have happened. The visual of Hernan and Melina is revolting. As you have stated, we must hope that Melina is not his mother.

Equally as shocking (and as revolting): "They’re both worried about Emi’s reaction but Lila wants to see Tino’s face. Bill slept with Paulina, Aide and now her. She wants to see Paulina’s face too". Lila's words literally made me queasy. And Bill? OMG, how could he?

Last but not least..."Melina tells her that’s how relationships are, she probably provoked him. Prisma says no, she’s going to denounce him. Melina says if she does, family services will get involved and she’ll lose Natalia" had me shaking my head in disgust.

I can only hope the anvils that fall are heavy and unforgiving.

This was riveting Liz, thank you.

Diana
 

MONTEVERDE Extras parte 1

Thank you, Diana.

Carlos asks Carolina why she told Oscar that he is a swindler. She answers that she did because that is what he is. She wasn't lying or was she mistaken. He reminds her that is not the whole truth. She says of course she didn't tell Oscar that she wasn't a nun. He asks her if ruining his name while pretending to be a nun doesn't bother her. He thinks that the people in town must be stupid to have any affection for a nun who talks badly about others.

Padilla gives Juanita a paper with his information in case they need his services one day.

Carolina tells Andrés that it is okay for him to visit with his father but by no means is he to get into a car with his father or leave downtown Monteverde. He tells her not to worry.

Lucas wants Rosalía a to be proud of him and how he has decided to handle Julieta's pregnancy.

Carolina tells Carlos that he needs to return with Andrés in three hours. Carlos calls her Carolina and not Celeste. She tells him to only call her Celeste.

Diego tells Lucía that the owner of the cafeteria in downtown Zacatillo would like her to supply him with pastries as she does for him at the hotel. She likes the offer but doesn't think she can take it because she is working out of a home kitchen and couldn't make enough pastires to supply another customer.

Oscar tells Carolina that if she wants to stay a nun, that is fine by him. He is only asking her not to make him be apart from her.

Lucía tells Rosalía that she loves Franco a lot but with Diego she feels a peace she hasn't felt for a long time. What to do?

Carlos wanted to spend the whole day with his son. Carolina says that is not happening. He also expects that his son will stay with him at Manuel's. Carolina says that is not happening. Carlos says he only wants to make up for lost time and asks Andrés what he wants to do. Carolina tells him to quit pressuring his child. Carlos will be back to see him tomorrow.

Manuel is still stuck on Gloria. Life just isn't the same without her!

Oscar tells Moisés that inspite of what is going on with him and Sister Celeste, she is a very good teacher so he will be going to school and she will be his teacher. Sometimes things do not work out like you want them to and you just have to accept them. Moisés doesn't want him to get in the bad mood he was in before Sister Celeste. Oscar promises him he is not going to be like that again.

Doris is now Manuel's bar woman.

Carolina explains to Carlos that he cannot see Andrés now. He will have to wait until after classes at 1:30. Andrés cannot afford to miss more school time since they have had to hide out due to what Carlos himself did. Carlos isn't happy but says he will be back at 1:30.

Franco is going to help out Rosalía by having somebody from the ranch pick up her medical supplies while he is in Zacatillo.

Oscar recognizes Lucas' mother in the photo as Gina. He met her years ago in town and they were together . . .
 

MONTEVERDE

Diana, yes!! we were robbed of another performance. I do like how Juan David's personality changes when he puts his mask on.

Yikes! Gloria is already planning on how she can help Angelina care for the twins.

More later.
 

MONTEVERDE

Jarifa, thank you for the excellent "extras"!

I had to smile at smitten "Manuel is still stuck on Gloria. Life just isn't the same without her!" To each their own!

"Carolina tells Andrés that it is okay for him to visit with his father but by no means is he to get into a car with his father or leave downtown Monteverde". Kind and caring sentiments but what on earth is she going to do when Carlos wants to spirit Andres away. Call the police? Oh wait, she can't because SHE is the one in trouble with the law. How long is Carlos' patience with the situation going to last? I was surprised that he is clearly green with jealousy over Oscar. It would likely be reciprocal IF OSCAR KNEW CAROLINA IS CARLOS' WIFE.

"Lucía tells Rosalía that she loves Franco a lot but with Diego she feels a peace she hasn't felt for a long time. What to do?" I murmur that we can hope but the heart wants what it wants and I fear that will be Franco.

So, it's Gina! Another storyline lane widens...

C'mon writers! We need another show. Don't let us down!

Thanks again Jarifa.

Diana
 

MONTEVERDE

Diana, yes, Carolina’s situation just keeps getting worse and worse the more she doubles down on lying. How long until Carlos decides he and his son are going back to Mexico City? I feel sorry for Andrés stuck in the middle loving them both.

Hmmm. . . I sort of like the twist that Lucas could also be Oscar’s son. The fruit doesn’t fall far from the tree evidently when it comes to not using birth control.

BTW, I still want to know who Moisés’ parents were. Any surprises there?

I found it sort of odd that Diego and Lucía are novios when they have only barely met. At least, Franco is paying for all of his hemming and hawing and over concern fir Julieta. I agree that, unfortunately, she will probably end up back with Franco so somebody needs to extoll the virtue and advantage of feeling at peace to her!

I feel like they are playing with us in terms of not showing us a Juan David performance. When he couldn’t find his mask, I was sure that Hugo was going to have to replace him. No such luck.

Can’t wait until tonight.




 

Monteverde

Definitely looks like Franco and Lucas may be brothers. Rather ironic that holier than thou Oscar may have had an affair while with Eva, though I guess it could be a case of history repeating itself but Gina wasn't manipulative like Julieta if she discovered Oscar was newly married after they were together. I had the impression Franco and Lucas were about the same age as I thought they went to school together.

Like that mask really hides David's identity! So silly.

You know closing a door for privacy would make it less easy for the doctor to overhear private conversations. I'm always shocked how people barge into her office while she is with a patient!.
 

Papas

Thanks Diana, that was some episode. I couldn’t believe Prisma trusted Melina after going to the violence place and hearing the exact opposite of what Melina had told her. And now she somehow believes her again. I’m afraid Nazario will kill her. I was trying to picture how they’d solve the twin’s parenthood and figured Nazario’s would be out of the picture and she’d coparent with Rudolf and Clara Luz. Now I wonder if that’s not the plan and they’ll be two parents left. I read this has 82 episodes, so we still have a month for crazy stuff to happen.

I have to admit I didn’t think of the horrifying deed that led to Iker’s conception. That makes it really gross! I also can’t believe, especially with the latest news, that Melina was ever different and somehow nicer and not scary to Iker. I don’t understand why she, or they, thought Tino should be named the dad, and why she wants his last name so badly for Iker.

I wonder if Lila’s so called love for Bill is more to shock, or hurt, her parents. I don’t remember if she was older than Circe and Uli. I thought they were close in age. But Bill is fully an adult, and this is third girlfriend since he appeared. He seems like a “player” and not so much that nice guy Gisela raves about.

Liz
 

MONTEVERDE

"I feel like they are playing with us in terms of not showing us a Juan David performance. When he couldn’t find his mask, I was sure that Hugo was going to have to replace him. No such luck".

Jarifa, wouldn't that have been the best!!?? If onlyl :)

Diana
 

MONTEVERDE

Kat, I'm thinking that Oscar and Gina broke up before she realized she was pregnant. Oscar looked shocked when he saw the picture. I don't think he would cheat on any woman he was with.

Rosalia clearly does not adhere to any Mexican equivalent of HIPPA. Privacy does not exist :)

DIana
 

PAPAS

Liz, I felt quesy throughout last night's episode.

Melina and Hernan are mind boggling; Lila and Bill only slightly less.

I do agree with you in being afraid Nazario may kill Prisma. I am fervently hoping not and that she is brought into the fold of Tino and Aide's ever growing family and is (as you noted) very involved in Pipe and Nat's life. What Melina did to her was unfathomable.

"I wonder if Lila’s so called love for Bill is more to shock, or hurt, her parents. Liz, you nailed it and I would say all of the above. Bill has no excuse whatsoever...

I was thinking that Iker and Emi share many things including having mothers that never loved them. How very sad....

Diana
 

Papas
Liz, thank you so much for a wonderful recap Of an episode with many surprises...all bad\sad. The writers seem to have thrown lots of weird ingredients into this odd salad . Some of this stuff isn't on the old bingo cards. Technology has changed our lives and changed novelas.
Melina is beyond evil luring Prisma to her place and then telling nasty , crazy Has where she was and convincing Prismas and Natalie to return to him . We have gotten so many PSAs about abusive relationships .I agree that next on the psa list is that it can lead to death if you don't leave the situation .
What in the world did Aide and Tino do to make Li!a so angry ? The writers really tricked us with the ability character .I think they want to make novelas less predictable than they have always been concerning good and bad characters .
Hernan is Iker's father ...bleech. So Tino never had a DNA test done .. Sussn

 

Papas
I feel very sorry for Poncho. He has been living in Cheno's home, but neither Serena or Chemo have been paying attention to what is happening to him . The on!y person giving him good advice is Chofis who seems to be acting like an adult now full of common sense . Poncho makes awful decisions , the latest one being having sex with the toxic Jeni, who has decided that getting pregnant will allow her to stay in Cheno's house forever. Yikes . I can barely watch Poncho's storyline . Is Serena his aunt ? How are the writers going to end this disaster? Susan