Tuesday, May 15, 2007
Zorro Monday May 14, 2007 : Where Pizarro racks up the body count and Esme develops a chill.
Zorro and Fernando face off at Fernando’s home. FS goes for his gun, but Zorro, skilled in knife throwing, is able to precisely aim and get FS’s shirt pinned to the wall, leaving FS’s arm trapped. Fernando demands that Zorro tell him what he came for, and Z answers that he came for FS’s wife, where is she? Fernando isn’t too surprised that Z asked for Sara Kali because he suspects that Z played a role in her escape from prison. He asks Z what he knows and Z answers that he knows all that Fernando does and they rehash the history of him holding SK in prison for years. Fernando takes this opportunity to pull out his sword and the two men face off again, this time with swords drawn on both sides.
Montero orders Pizarro to kill the two de la Vega men. His plan is to send Pizarro over to the hacienda as an escort for the judge who will be serving Alejandro with some legal papers. Piza it to use this opportunity to assassinate the two men. Piza asks his boss if he’s thought about the repercussions of this, that Alej has men and weapons and right now Monty’s supplies are wiped out---no money and arsenal destroyed by Zorro. Piza states that it is all risky. Monty, ever the overblown ego, doesn’t like it when his “brilliant” ideas are questioned and rages as Piza. Monty wants to know what happened to Piza, he’s changed. Monty tells Piza he’ll either follow orders or die. Sgt. Garcia/SAM comes in with the judge at this point. The judge is a little hesitant to draw up papers against the de la Vegas, but Monty insists that Alej attacked the prison with his personal militia, and therefore has committed crimes against the Crown. The judge questions if this is legal because it is an uncommon procedure, Monty puts the squeeze on the man and he capitulates. With the orders drawn up, Monty tells Piza that it is all in his hands.
Fernando and Zorro give us our semi-weekly sword fight. Very impressive. While matching blades, FS asks Zorro who is paying him. Zorro replies that he is not a man so easily sold, unlike Fernando. Zorro is able to unarm FS, and FS calls for his men as back up (here is where I want to contrast Monty to FS, when Monty faced Zorro he called for his men pretty much from the get go….all talk, but really a coward; Fernando faced Zorro on his own and it wasn’t until he was disarmed and backed into a corner, so to speak, that he called for his men---just a subtle difference I noted).
Agapito is tending to Sara Kali when his friend Facundo finds him. Facu is convinced that Aga knows the secret liar of Zorro and wants his friend to give him the skinny. Facu thinks that Aga is out to get the reward and Facu wants a piece of the pie. Aga is concerned for his friend, he tells him that he’s here to care for this woman under Piza’s orders and if Piza were to find Facu there, well Facu would be dead (Aga’s worried, ulcer 1). Facu wonders who this woman really is and Aga implies he knows but doesn’t fill his friend in on the details (a missed opportunity to rehash, I’m surprised).
Alej tells Almudena she needs to snap out of it, she’s not eating and has slumped into a deep depression since she rec’d news of Esmeralda’s death. Dena knows she needs to get over it, but she just doesn’t know what to do without Esme, she just doesn’t have the strength to over come it. She and Al discuss how they love each other and he dangles that as her carrot for getting better.
Zorro is surrounded by FS’s men, Z returns his sword to its sheath and knocks out all of Fernando’s posse, leaving them in a heap on the floor. Fernando meanwhile draws his gun, Zorro draws both of his….What we have here friends is a real Mexican standoff. Fernando tells Z that someone else has Sara Kali, but the Crown doesn’t know of her and they never will. Zorro assures him that he’s going to help SK fulfill her destiny and in the process make sure that FS pays for Esme’s death (how all these people fail to see that Zorro’s interest in Esme is suspect, is beyond me….but it makes for some entertaining moments, so I won’t complain too much). Zorro escapes and as soon as he’s gone all of Fernando’s men immediately pop up from the heap---I had to laugh, it was like they were playing opossum until he left. GO AFTER HIM, Fernando orders.
Monty questions one of his soldiers who tracked Zorro after the arsenal fire. He tells Monty that they lost Z, he disappeared as if he were a ghost. Monty says he’s not a ghost, he’s a man and sends the soldier away with the usual threats and put downs. Monty talks to himself and says he needs money and now may be the time to dip into Esme’s fortune. Soon he’s going to be invincible.
Prudencio shoots after Zorro as he rides away from Fernando’s home. One day, one day Prudencio mutters. Prudi finds FS and they rehash some about Zorro and the explosion at the prison. Prudi says he doesn’t have all the details, but will find out more tomorrow. Fernando says this is going to be the beginning of the end of Montero. Prudi also tells FS that there is some activity at the mission and that the Cardinal hasn’t left yet. He suspects that the consecration is taking place. FS freaks out and takes off for the mission immediately.
Zorro returns to the Bat Cave and finds Bernardo. He fills him in on what happened and swears that he’s going to make everyone who betrayed/hurt Esme pay. He tells Bernie that his life is not the same without Esme, but when he’s Zorro out fighting the criminals somehow his pain is less.
Maria Pia is getting consecrated as a nun, and she and the other sisters are wearing the most ridiculous looking wreath of flowers on their heads (just my opinion, sorry if any of you like them). MP has a flashback to her almost wedding to Fernando. Sister Carol has a dopey smile on her face and MP looks pensive, she then lays prostrate on the floor in front of the Cardinal.
Monty pours water onto a sleeping Esme. He tells her that the noise she heard earlier was her people attempting to rescue her, but they weren’t successful (no duh, she’s still in a cell isn’t she). He says that every time they strike at him he is going to punish Esme. She spouts some hateful words in his general direction and he tells her that soon her mother will be joining her in the cell.
Piza finds Facundo with Agapito and SK. He looks none to happy. Aga tries to explain that his friend was worried (ulcer 2?, not really since this is a lie) about him and so came looking for him. Facu swears that he’ll go back to town and say nothing now that he sees his friend is fine. Piza says fine, go, but I’ll go back to town with you (this isn’t good, let me tell you). Piza heads out with Facu and Facu swears he won’t say a word. At the first opportunity Piza guarantees that statement will be true, he silences Facu forever. **Now at this point I was thinking I wish I could keep a count of all the people Piza has personally killed, he’s got the bodies stacking up. Do you think together we could come up with an accurate body count so far and keep track from this point onward?**
Fernando rides into the church and shouts out that this is all a lie and it ends now!!! He pulls Maria Pia out of the church and asks her if she has erased her feelings for him. She tells him she’s been consecrated and now belongs to God. She adds, kill me if you want and dirty your hands some more.
Next time we see Fernando, he’s brooding in his office. He tells Prudi to go find Brother Aaron, somewhere on the road to Mexico City. He says that Prudi should tell Bro Aaron that Fernando Sanchez needs him.
Olmos visits Mariangel. Mangle asks him if he’s back working for her father and if he told him about her questioning her inheritance. She tells Olmos that she’s pregnant. He’s upset, but offers her congratulations. Mangle asks Olmos to come work for her, and he gets excited about living at the hacienda. She tells him she doesn’t care where he lives, but he should go tell her father he’s coming to work for her. After Mangle walks away, Olmos whines that she’s having the baby of a man who doesn’t love her.
Diego and Alej rehash Dena’s depression. Diego says that she’s got no place to go mourn over the body. Alej goes on to say that Esme died for a cause she believed in and it is there duty to keep up the fight and to never give up. They rehash Mangle’s pregnancy and Diego wonders if God did this to remind him of what he lost with Esme or as a source of comfort from his loss.
Aga asks Piza if he can return to town, he’s got lots of people depending on him (he’s, after all, someone who works four different and important jobs). Piza says no go. He tells Aga that caring for Sara Kali is his only priority and if he’s unsuccessful, Aga will die. Piza lets Aga know that Facu has been silenced. Aga knows Piza means business.
Diego rehashes his plans with Bernie. He’s going to destroy Monty. He speculates that Monty’s next move will be to use Esme’s money, because it is obvious he’s desperately in need of funding.
Auggie finds Esme burning up with a fever in her cell. He takes care of her.
Monty scolds Piza for him (Monty) no knowing where Piza was. Piza says he’s a busy man, with lots to do and proceeds to list off all the different projects Monty has assigned him. Monty says that’s no excuse and orders Piza to carry out the de la Vega assassinations. When Piza leaves, Monty mutters that he hopes Piza doesn’t come back, but then who will do all your dirty work Montero? It is pretty obvious that you are lacking in trustworthy men to carry out your deeds, that’s why you’ve piled the work onto Piza.
The de la Vegas are eating breakfast. Mangle almost faints, I don’t know if she did this on purpose or if it was genuine, I suspect the former. Diego takes her to their room to rest and she says the baby is kicking, does he want to feel (how far along is she?).
Al gets news that the judge is coming with a military escort. He tells his men to get ready, but he’ll go and personally meet the envoy.
Monty is watching all this from a distance. The judge gives Alej the warrant and says that he’s needed for an interrogation, but no harm will come to him. Piza reaches for the pistol behind his back, and a watching Monty orders him to DO IT!!! END OF EPISODE/ ulcer count =1 real/ 1 fake Piza’s daily body count = 1
Montero orders Pizarro to kill the two de la Vega men. His plan is to send Pizarro over to the hacienda as an escort for the judge who will be serving Alejandro with some legal papers. Piza it to use this opportunity to assassinate the two men. Piza asks his boss if he’s thought about the repercussions of this, that Alej has men and weapons and right now Monty’s supplies are wiped out---no money and arsenal destroyed by Zorro. Piza states that it is all risky. Monty, ever the overblown ego, doesn’t like it when his “brilliant” ideas are questioned and rages as Piza. Monty wants to know what happened to Piza, he’s changed. Monty tells Piza he’ll either follow orders or die. Sgt. Garcia/SAM comes in with the judge at this point. The judge is a little hesitant to draw up papers against the de la Vegas, but Monty insists that Alej attacked the prison with his personal militia, and therefore has committed crimes against the Crown. The judge questions if this is legal because it is an uncommon procedure, Monty puts the squeeze on the man and he capitulates. With the orders drawn up, Monty tells Piza that it is all in his hands.
Fernando and Zorro give us our semi-weekly sword fight. Very impressive. While matching blades, FS asks Zorro who is paying him. Zorro replies that he is not a man so easily sold, unlike Fernando. Zorro is able to unarm FS, and FS calls for his men as back up (here is where I want to contrast Monty to FS, when Monty faced Zorro he called for his men pretty much from the get go….all talk, but really a coward; Fernando faced Zorro on his own and it wasn’t until he was disarmed and backed into a corner, so to speak, that he called for his men---just a subtle difference I noted).
Agapito is tending to Sara Kali when his friend Facundo finds him. Facu is convinced that Aga knows the secret liar of Zorro and wants his friend to give him the skinny. Facu thinks that Aga is out to get the reward and Facu wants a piece of the pie. Aga is concerned for his friend, he tells him that he’s here to care for this woman under Piza’s orders and if Piza were to find Facu there, well Facu would be dead (Aga’s worried, ulcer 1). Facu wonders who this woman really is and Aga implies he knows but doesn’t fill his friend in on the details (a missed opportunity to rehash, I’m surprised).
Alej tells Almudena she needs to snap out of it, she’s not eating and has slumped into a deep depression since she rec’d news of Esmeralda’s death. Dena knows she needs to get over it, but she just doesn’t know what to do without Esme, she just doesn’t have the strength to over come it. She and Al discuss how they love each other and he dangles that as her carrot for getting better.
Zorro is surrounded by FS’s men, Z returns his sword to its sheath and knocks out all of Fernando’s posse, leaving them in a heap on the floor. Fernando meanwhile draws his gun, Zorro draws both of his….What we have here friends is a real Mexican standoff. Fernando tells Z that someone else has Sara Kali, but the Crown doesn’t know of her and they never will. Zorro assures him that he’s going to help SK fulfill her destiny and in the process make sure that FS pays for Esme’s death (how all these people fail to see that Zorro’s interest in Esme is suspect, is beyond me….but it makes for some entertaining moments, so I won’t complain too much). Zorro escapes and as soon as he’s gone all of Fernando’s men immediately pop up from the heap---I had to laugh, it was like they were playing opossum until he left. GO AFTER HIM, Fernando orders.
Monty questions one of his soldiers who tracked Zorro after the arsenal fire. He tells Monty that they lost Z, he disappeared as if he were a ghost. Monty says he’s not a ghost, he’s a man and sends the soldier away with the usual threats and put downs. Monty talks to himself and says he needs money and now may be the time to dip into Esme’s fortune. Soon he’s going to be invincible.
Prudencio shoots after Zorro as he rides away from Fernando’s home. One day, one day Prudencio mutters. Prudi finds FS and they rehash some about Zorro and the explosion at the prison. Prudi says he doesn’t have all the details, but will find out more tomorrow. Fernando says this is going to be the beginning of the end of Montero. Prudi also tells FS that there is some activity at the mission and that the Cardinal hasn’t left yet. He suspects that the consecration is taking place. FS freaks out and takes off for the mission immediately.
Zorro returns to the Bat Cave and finds Bernardo. He fills him in on what happened and swears that he’s going to make everyone who betrayed/hurt Esme pay. He tells Bernie that his life is not the same without Esme, but when he’s Zorro out fighting the criminals somehow his pain is less.
Maria Pia is getting consecrated as a nun, and she and the other sisters are wearing the most ridiculous looking wreath of flowers on their heads (just my opinion, sorry if any of you like them). MP has a flashback to her almost wedding to Fernando. Sister Carol has a dopey smile on her face and MP looks pensive, she then lays prostrate on the floor in front of the Cardinal.
Monty pours water onto a sleeping Esme. He tells her that the noise she heard earlier was her people attempting to rescue her, but they weren’t successful (no duh, she’s still in a cell isn’t she). He says that every time they strike at him he is going to punish Esme. She spouts some hateful words in his general direction and he tells her that soon her mother will be joining her in the cell.
Piza finds Facundo with Agapito and SK. He looks none to happy. Aga tries to explain that his friend was worried (ulcer 2?, not really since this is a lie) about him and so came looking for him. Facu swears that he’ll go back to town and say nothing now that he sees his friend is fine. Piza says fine, go, but I’ll go back to town with you (this isn’t good, let me tell you). Piza heads out with Facu and Facu swears he won’t say a word. At the first opportunity Piza guarantees that statement will be true, he silences Facu forever. **Now at this point I was thinking I wish I could keep a count of all the people Piza has personally killed, he’s got the bodies stacking up. Do you think together we could come up with an accurate body count so far and keep track from this point onward?**
Fernando rides into the church and shouts out that this is all a lie and it ends now!!! He pulls Maria Pia out of the church and asks her if she has erased her feelings for him. She tells him she’s been consecrated and now belongs to God. She adds, kill me if you want and dirty your hands some more.
Next time we see Fernando, he’s brooding in his office. He tells Prudi to go find Brother Aaron, somewhere on the road to Mexico City. He says that Prudi should tell Bro Aaron that Fernando Sanchez needs him.
Olmos visits Mariangel. Mangle asks him if he’s back working for her father and if he told him about her questioning her inheritance. She tells Olmos that she’s pregnant. He’s upset, but offers her congratulations. Mangle asks Olmos to come work for her, and he gets excited about living at the hacienda. She tells him she doesn’t care where he lives, but he should go tell her father he’s coming to work for her. After Mangle walks away, Olmos whines that she’s having the baby of a man who doesn’t love her.
Diego and Alej rehash Dena’s depression. Diego says that she’s got no place to go mourn over the body. Alej goes on to say that Esme died for a cause she believed in and it is there duty to keep up the fight and to never give up. They rehash Mangle’s pregnancy and Diego wonders if God did this to remind him of what he lost with Esme or as a source of comfort from his loss.
Aga asks Piza if he can return to town, he’s got lots of people depending on him (he’s, after all, someone who works four different and important jobs). Piza says no go. He tells Aga that caring for Sara Kali is his only priority and if he’s unsuccessful, Aga will die. Piza lets Aga know that Facu has been silenced. Aga knows Piza means business.
Diego rehashes his plans with Bernie. He’s going to destroy Monty. He speculates that Monty’s next move will be to use Esme’s money, because it is obvious he’s desperately in need of funding.
Auggie finds Esme burning up with a fever in her cell. He takes care of her.
Monty scolds Piza for him (Monty) no knowing where Piza was. Piza says he’s a busy man, with lots to do and proceeds to list off all the different projects Monty has assigned him. Monty says that’s no excuse and orders Piza to carry out the de la Vega assassinations. When Piza leaves, Monty mutters that he hopes Piza doesn’t come back, but then who will do all your dirty work Montero? It is pretty obvious that you are lacking in trustworthy men to carry out your deeds, that’s why you’ve piled the work onto Piza.
The de la Vegas are eating breakfast. Mangle almost faints, I don’t know if she did this on purpose or if it was genuine, I suspect the former. Diego takes her to their room to rest and she says the baby is kicking, does he want to feel (how far along is she?).
Al gets news that the judge is coming with a military escort. He tells his men to get ready, but he’ll go and personally meet the envoy.
Monty is watching all this from a distance. The judge gives Alej the warrant and says that he’s needed for an interrogation, but no harm will come to him. Piza reaches for the pistol behind his back, and a watching Monty orders him to DO IT!!! END OF EPISODE/ ulcer count =1 real/ 1 fake Piza’s daily body count = 1
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Great recap, Cathy! I agree with you 100% about the flower headpieces of the nun-wannabees. The roses were too big or something but they did look ridiculous.
I also agree that Mangle's fainting was all fake and part of her scheme to entrap Diego. I don't think she could feel the baby move so early. According to wikipedia, a woman in her first pregnancy usually feels her baby move at 20-21 weeks. That would be 5 months and she'd be showing.
Hmm, Piza's body count: Besides Facundo, I recall that he killed a guard when SK escaped, the 2 guards he killed on Monty's orders and I think he killed Miguel or at least he supervised it. That would be 5. I think it was Monty that killed the Viceroy's emissary. Were there more? Did Pizarro kill Yumalai's brother or was that a random soldier?
I also agree that Mangle's fainting was all fake and part of her scheme to entrap Diego. I don't think she could feel the baby move so early. According to wikipedia, a woman in her first pregnancy usually feels her baby move at 20-21 weeks. That would be 5 months and she'd be showing.
Hmm, Piza's body count: Besides Facundo, I recall that he killed a guard when SK escaped, the 2 guards he killed on Monty's orders and I think he killed Miguel or at least he supervised it. That would be 5. I think it was Monty that killed the Viceroy's emissary. Were there more? Did Pizarro kill Yumalai's brother or was that a random soldier?
I'm sure Mangle was just using the "here feel the baby move" as a trick to draw poor Diego into her web of deceit. She's going to squeeze as much out of her pregnancy as she can.
Interesting difference noted between FS and Monty.
At first I thought Monty was just being a lunatic, ordering Piza to kill the de la Vegas point blank, but when he revealed his deeper purpose, hoping that Piza would get killed in the process, it made more sense to me.
I can't tell whether Pizarro enjoys killing people or whether it's just a matter of getting rid of pesky barriers for him.
Thanks Cathy, excellent recap!
Interesting difference noted between FS and Monty.
At first I thought Monty was just being a lunatic, ordering Piza to kill the de la Vegas point blank, but when he revealed his deeper purpose, hoping that Piza would get killed in the process, it made more sense to me.
I can't tell whether Pizarro enjoys killing people or whether it's just a matter of getting rid of pesky barriers for him.
Thanks Cathy, excellent recap!
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: Tuesday, May 15, 2007 at 9:33:00 AM EDT
: Tuesday, May 15, 2007 at 9:33:00 AM EDT
Hi Cathy, Thanks for the recap.
You're right about the differences between Monty and Fernando . . . Monty is indeed a coward. When Fernando's facing death, he kind of shrugs with disgust & says "Kill me!" I just *love* that about him. He's evil and selfish, relentless and cruel, but he's not afraid of a fight.
Also, he differs from Monty by not being a hanky-sniffer or mask-licker. = : )
Marie from Mass
P.S. Zorro would've been dead last night if Fernando's men had smacked him in the head with a shovel instead of politely waiting their turns to be knocked over like bowling pins.
You're right about the differences between Monty and Fernando . . . Monty is indeed a coward. When Fernando's facing death, he kind of shrugs with disgust & says "Kill me!" I just *love* that about him. He's evil and selfish, relentless and cruel, but he's not afraid of a fight.
Also, he differs from Monty by not being a hanky-sniffer or mask-licker. = : )
Marie from Mass
P.S. Zorro would've been dead last night if Fernando's men had smacked him in the head with a shovel instead of politely waiting their turns to be knocked over like bowling pins.
Permalink posted by : Tuesday, May 15, 2007 at 2:07:00 PM EDT
: Tuesday, May 15, 2007 at 2:07:00 PM EDT
Thanks, Cathy, for the great recap! I am finally caught up (only to get behind again later this week, I fear) with the six or so days of novelas I missed while traveling. Next time I travel I’m gonna have to make sure I read recaps to keep up instead of letting them pile up for when I get home!
Piza has killed other folks? Geez, what program have I been watching? I didn’t realize! I haven’t paid enough attention. (Well, three, if you count the implied murders of those two young soldiers who know where Esme was in the last few episodes. But, we didn’t really see them die, did we? I wonder. I suppose they had to, though).
I guess it’s no surprise Facundo had to go. Piza’s been around the city of Our Lady of the Angels long enough to know what a big gossip he is and realize there would be no keeping the old boy quiet on this. He made me nervous but killing him is….well…..overkill for a bit of gossip (pardon me, couldn’t help myself there).
Jeanne (glad to be back)
Piza has killed other folks? Geez, what program have I been watching? I didn’t realize! I haven’t paid enough attention. (Well, three, if you count the implied murders of those two young soldiers who know where Esme was in the last few episodes. But, we didn’t really see them die, did we? I wonder. I suppose they had to, though).
I guess it’s no surprise Facundo had to go. Piza’s been around the city of Our Lady of the Angels long enough to know what a big gossip he is and realize there would be no keeping the old boy quiet on this. He made me nervous but killing him is….well…..overkill for a bit of gossip (pardon me, couldn’t help myself there).
Jeanne (glad to be back)
Howdy =)
Thanks for the recap Cathy =) Lessee, Piza first killed the guard that reported seeing SK et al after she escaped (1), he then killed Machado (Augie's SK guarding partner) when Piza helped Esme escape the first time (2), he then killed the soldiers that had helped him (I think there were 3 of them) under Montero's orders (5) and finally there was Facundo (6). I'm not counting Miguel because he had his soldiers behead Miguel for him. Both Yumi's brother and the VCR's investigator were killed by FS (he has a hell of a body count on him as well - both point blank and in random shootings during scrimages, but I digress). I don't know if I've missed any others.
I'm a definite member of the "Mangle is full of it" club. There's no way that baby can be felt moving at this point. Even if Monty had knocked her up the minute she got off the boat (the only way she'd be feeling it) she would definitely be showing by now and there'd be no question it wasn't Diego's.
I also think it's odd that more people aren't questioning why Zorro's so upset about Esme (FS did seem a little puzzled). I was also surprised that Al didn't question Piza being alive (who gave him the chisme if nobody's leaving the hacienda?) and how did the our favorite royal emisary find out all this stuff she made no reference to in the past (I'll leave it at that not to spoil the episode if folks haven't seen it). I don't mind suspending my reality as long as they stick to their own continuity. Just a pet peeve of mine.
I really hope Esme gets out of jail soon. If she doesn't get over her cold soon, she's gonna loose that baby!!!
Thanks for the recap Cathy =) Lessee, Piza first killed the guard that reported seeing SK et al after she escaped (1), he then killed Machado (Augie's SK guarding partner) when Piza helped Esme escape the first time (2), he then killed the soldiers that had helped him (I think there were 3 of them) under Montero's orders (5) and finally there was Facundo (6). I'm not counting Miguel because he had his soldiers behead Miguel for him. Both Yumi's brother and the VCR's investigator were killed by FS (he has a hell of a body count on him as well - both point blank and in random shootings during scrimages, but I digress). I don't know if I've missed any others.
I'm a definite member of the "Mangle is full of it" club. There's no way that baby can be felt moving at this point. Even if Monty had knocked her up the minute she got off the boat (the only way she'd be feeling it) she would definitely be showing by now and there'd be no question it wasn't Diego's.
I also think it's odd that more people aren't questioning why Zorro's so upset about Esme (FS did seem a little puzzled). I was also surprised that Al didn't question Piza being alive (who gave him the chisme if nobody's leaving the hacienda?) and how did the our favorite royal emisary find out all this stuff she made no reference to in the past (I'll leave it at that not to spoil the episode if folks haven't seen it). I don't mind suspending my reality as long as they stick to their own continuity. Just a pet peeve of mine.
I really hope Esme gets out of jail soon. If she doesn't get over her cold soon, she's gonna loose that baby!!!
Permalink posted by : Tuesday, May 15, 2007 at 11:31:00 PM EDT
: Tuesday, May 15, 2007 at 11:31:00 PM EDT
Mangle could indeed be that far along. Remember whose baby it is, and who she's been messing with for months. I'm willing to be at least five to six months has passed that they've been in LA and she's been getting it on with Monty. I'm just wondering why Diego isnt' figuring it out. If the baby is born in the next four months looking like full term it may raise eyebrows.
Jeanne
Jeanne
We "came in" in March & I'd like to read all the previous recaps. The program started in Feb. didn't it? The earliest recap I've found is March 2.
Also, who's that cute dude on the blog in the photo labled "We miss him"?
More questions... I'd like to know all of your opinions about the quality of acting in this novela. Seems to me it's way better than U.S. productions. Maybe it's just that I can't understand 98% of the Spanish. Maybe their lines are real "cheesy", but I'm really impressed with most of the acting, even the minor roles. What do you think, is it the same as or better than U.S. productions? Thanks, AliceC
Also, who's that cute dude on the blog in the photo labled "We miss him"?
More questions... I'd like to know all of your opinions about the quality of acting in this novela. Seems to me it's way better than U.S. productions. Maybe it's just that I can't understand 98% of the Spanish. Maybe their lines are real "cheesy", but I'm really impressed with most of the acting, even the minor roles. What do you think, is it the same as or better than U.S. productions? Thanks, AliceC
Permalink posted by : Wednesday, May 16, 2007 at 10:25:00 AM EDT
: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 at 10:25:00 AM EDT
Oops, just found the first posting of Zorro, the intro. But my other questions still stand. AliceC
Permalink posted by : Wednesday, May 16, 2007 at 10:55:00 AM EDT
: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 at 10:55:00 AM EDT
Alice--I agree that the acting here is pretty quality, especially Arturo Peniche (did I spell that correctly?), who plays Fernando. I know he's a really bad character and does some awful things, but I just can't help liking him some degree because I think the character is played on so many levels by the talented Mr. Peniche. You can just feel the subtext whenever he's in a scene.
I think Mangle should be showing if she was far enough along for baby kicks in her pregnancy. She is really skinny, so unless there is something seriously wrong with her 5 mon. fetus, she's not that far along based on the lack of tummy she's sporting.
OK, Piza's body count isn't as high as I expected, but he does seem almost automatic about killing people. I guess he's very good at being detached.
Jeanne, glad you are back, we missed you. I haven't been posting too much lately with all the end of the year stuff, but hopefully will get to throw my two cents around a bit more often now.
I think Mangle should be showing if she was far enough along for baby kicks in her pregnancy. She is really skinny, so unless there is something seriously wrong with her 5 mon. fetus, she's not that far along based on the lack of tummy she's sporting.
OK, Piza's body count isn't as high as I expected, but he does seem almost automatic about killing people. I guess he's very good at being detached.
Jeanne, glad you are back, we missed you. I haven't been posting too much lately with all the end of the year stuff, but hopefully will get to throw my two cents around a bit more often now.
oh yeah, we didn't start the Zorro recaps until about a month into it. I know that at some point I found another English recap of the show, but it wasn't as entertaining as Caray Caray (if I do say so myself). I came across it on accident via the Telemundo website.
If I could spell Fernando's last name, I would be able to tell you who the man is that everyone misses, but I'm afraid I'd only butcher it terribly, so could someone else fill Alice in on that picture. Thanks.
If I could spell Fernando's last name, I would be able to tell you who the man is that everyone misses, but I'm afraid I'd only butcher it terribly, so could someone else fill Alice in on that picture. Thanks.
Thanks, Cathy! Yep, I was in Maryland for ten days (and had literally no access to Spanish language television, imagine that!). Attended a Board meeting and then two professional conferences back to back, and finally played Grandma for about three days -- the good part). How's your end of the year going? Rush time!
Regarding the pregnancy showing--keep in mind the corset. The women of the time were not above cinching the poor creature in to achieve that svelte look for a long time. It's a wonder more weren't disabled. My sister in law is skinny and tall, and my nephew was never visible until my sister in law was very far along. My nephew was a very big baby and is about 6'7" now. So, Mangle may not be at 5 months, but she could easily be at four.
Fern Colunga, AliceC. You can get Alborada at Amazon (abbreviated version) or someplace else with the full version. These folks recommended it to me and I am SO glad I got it! I watch it on weekends as I use the treadmill. I may watch it over and over. He's a DOLL.
Zorro is definitely better than the American versions and better than most telenovelas in my opinion. But I like 'em all anyway.
Jeanne
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Regarding the pregnancy showing--keep in mind the corset. The women of the time were not above cinching the poor creature in to achieve that svelte look for a long time. It's a wonder more weren't disabled. My sister in law is skinny and tall, and my nephew was never visible until my sister in law was very far along. My nephew was a very big baby and is about 6'7" now. So, Mangle may not be at 5 months, but she could easily be at four.
Fern Colunga, AliceC. You can get Alborada at Amazon (abbreviated version) or someplace else with the full version. These folks recommended it to me and I am SO glad I got it! I watch it on weekends as I use the treadmill. I may watch it over and over. He's a DOLL.
Zorro is definitely better than the American versions and better than most telenovelas in my opinion. But I like 'em all anyway.
Jeanne
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