Thursday, June 21, 2007
Zorro Wednesday June 20, 2007: Where the mapdallion is discovered and it looks like all Olmos's dreams will come true (for now).
Esmeralda is landed on the beach, surrounded by casks from the downed ship. Her dress, amazingly has remained intact---even the bodice remained in place, ahh the miracles of fiction. Anyway back to the show, she sees the brand of the medallion burnt into her palm and remembers losing the medallion as the ship was sinking. She is sad because it was a gift from her mother and the last thing she had from her.
Diego spots the sailor with the medallion and he demands to know where the guy got it. The sailor says it’s his, but Diego doesn’t believe him. So he offers money in exchange for the truth. The soldier tells Diego a beautiful young slave woman had the necklace with the medallion, however he doesn’t remember her name. The sailor is insistent that the necklace is his because he found it hung up on a floating piece of wood after the ship went down. Diego snatches the medallion and gives the man a bag (full of coins, we are to assume).
Alejandro gives his blessing to the engagement of Alfonso (Alf) and Maria Pia (yes, they’ve been dating for months and this is the first time Alej met the man, but anyone is better than Fernando, so Alej is all in favor of the union). Speaking of Fernando, he is standing in the background listening in on the exchange and he looks none too happy. He speaks up and says that MP can’t marry this man. Alej is annoyed that Fernando just strolled into the house and he insists that Fernando leave. Alf steps up and tells FS that the issue is something to be resolved between the two of them so he should just leave los de la Vega alone. Any further verbal sparring is halted by the arrival of Dolores carrying the beautiful baby. He becomes the center of attention and Fernando is moved by the sight of his “almost” grandson. FS smiles and it seems like all the business of MP’s engagement has been put to the back burner.
Mangle and Olmos sweet talk to each other. She sees Olmos as a dapper bald man, but to the viewing audience he’s still a toupee wearing hunchback. They talk about the baby’s birth and how Olmos saved Mangle and the baby (not). Mangle says she never realized before the value of Olmos’s friendship. Agapito comes in to check on the patient and Mangle pays little attention to him, she’s only got eyes for Olmos (man, I’m loving this!!). She makes small talk and asks about the baby, when can she see him (you’ve gotta see the baby!!---With another reference to Seinfeld--I’m sure no one would have been able to say anything complimentary about the spawn of Monty other than it is breath-taking, little horned creature. I’m sure it had a tail, too). Olmos tells her she can see her son whenever she wants.
Esme wanders away from the water a bit and comes across a knocked out SAM. She is able to revive him and goes into major cheerleader mode. She tells him that he’s got the strength to get up and get going. SAM decides he can do it because it must be divine intervention, them being alive. He says that God must have wanted them to live and that’s why they are here. Esme agrees.
Diego goes to Padre Tomás with the medallion. He’s convinced the Esme’s alive, but PT thinks it could be just coincidence. Diego feels it is very unlikely that a slave that matches Esme’s description ended up with her medallion. Diego tells PT that he’s going to visit the Queen tonight as Zorro and he’s going to tell her all the details of the whole sorted business. It will be a major rehash session. PT tells Diego to be careful and just then Monty walks up and Diego quickly hides the medallion he was showing PT. Monty wants to congratulate PT on being assigned as the Queen’s confessor during her visit. Monty makes some comment about PT being alone w/ the Queen without anyone interrupting. PT says that he could offer the same service to Monty, he could be his confessor. Monty laughs and walks away. Padre Tomás says he didn’t like the look in Monty’s eyes, he’s got to be up to something (when isn’t he up to something?).
The Queen tells the Duke that she wants to hold a masquerade ball (quick flash, Diego better not attend or everyone will be able to figure out he is Zorro). DJ doesn’t like this idea, he’s worried (ulcer 1). He says it is for the Queen’s safety, but we all know it is because he’s afraid the gig is up once Zorro spills the beans to the Queen. TQ says that she wants them to enjoy their time while they are in LA.
SAM and Esme wander and come across Camba. Esme tries to assure him that they won’t harm him, they are friends. SAM uses some hand gestures to show Camba that they are now free like birds. Camba seems to understand and he rips off his shirt and rolls around in the sand.
Diego in the Fox Cave, shows Bernardo the medallion and rehashes how he got it and what the sailor had to say.
Esme and SAM are dragging some sort of box. She shows SAM her hand and he tells her to take it easy, to go gather dry wood for a fire. They’ll need to build a fire to keep warm. Esme takes off, but first she breaks off a twig and puts up her hair (you know, first things first).
Fernando is proud of his nieto. Alej says –okay you’ve seen him now amscray. FS says this little baby bonds us together, makes us family---mixes their blood. He waxes about how Esme wasn’t his daughter, but Mangle is his true daughter and this is her son (audience knowing the inside secret, has a chuckle at this comment). Diego overhears and is ticked off at FS’s attitude toward Esme. Diego says that Esme was loved in this household for who she was not for her bloodline. Fernando realizes that he crossed a line (again) and attempts to apologize for that and for also killing Diego’s mother. That’s not enough, he begs Alej to not allow MP to marry Alf. His timing isn’t the greatest and once again, Alej asks him to leave.
Esme comes across a wounded Gluck (the officer from the slave ship).
Olmos goes to pay Selenia. He thanks her for Mangle’s turn around. He says he’s the happiest man and feels like he’s living in a dream. Selenia seems pleased to hear this and then Olmos turns around with a gun. He tells her that THIS is her payment for making him a freak with her curse. She tries to talk him out of doing anything rash. He jumps into a soliloquy about how he’d never have to use the potion on Mangle if it wasn’t for her. If he was blessed with the natural good looks he should have had he would have been able to woo her without the use of potion.
Alf tells Maria Pia that after they marry they should head to Europe. He’d like to introduce her to his friends there (wonder if they’ve heard about her already---wouldn’t that be a scream, oceans and the whole transportation issues and his friends in Europe know about MP before Alej, who lives in the same house, found out). MP says she’d be delighted to meet Alf’s friends. Fernando overhears this exchange and our wonderful Arturo Peniche delivers a fine performance. He sends a smoldering look in MP’s direction and she gives him a look back that I can’t find words to describe. (Part of me thought she might be lamenting that it isn’t Fernando that she’s making these plans with, combined with a smug anger because this is all do to FS’s evil actions years before and up to the present day).
Fernando leaves and Prudencio wants to tag along. FS tells Prudi to leave him alone.
Selenia tells Olmos that she can change him and how people see him. She gets him to look into the mirror and says what you see is what everyone will see. Olmos sees an image of himself, the same one Mangle saw earlier. He obviously likes what he sees and agrees to not kill her, but he’s not going to pay her for the transformation----it will be in exchange for his not killing her.
Alej and Diego talk about the medallion and rehash Diego’s idea that Esme’s alive. Alej questions why would Monty keep her alive, it would be stupid of him to keep her alive and then sell her to slaves.
Esme helps Gluck. He has a bleeding wound and she makes a tourniquet. He’s weak from blood loss, but notices the brand on her palm. He says it looks like some sort of map. Esme says there is no way she’d hang out with a slave trader. He tells her she’s got it all wrong, he wasn’t one of them he was just working for them. He couldn’t get anyone to hire him as a captain, so he took what work he could, but he’s a good captain. He says he could take her to the place shown on her mapdallion.
Sara Kali is talking to Jonas and Suzi at the gypsy camp. She explains to them that the medallion she gave Esme was really a map (story line moving at warp speed in this story arc). Her mother hid their treasure and the medallion is the map to it. SK says she thought that Esme would live longer than her, but alas no. Hermes comments that SK constantly is surprising him and why does she always wait to the last moment to pop out news. Sara Kali says it is because she’s patient. Anyway, SK says they need the money now to carry out their mission. They talk about the logistics of not having the map and SK decides she’ll have to draw it from memory.
SAM starts to build a shelter and Esme returns and tells him about Gluck and her branded mapdallion. She fills SAM in on Gluck saying he wasn’t one of the slave traders. SAM isn’t convinced and tells Esme not to trust the man. That’s right SAM, birds of a feather and all that. Camba returns with bananas and some other food. They are happy to eat.
Zorro goes out riding and questions the wind---where are you Esme?
Renzo and Laisha are talking. He asks her why she is a bigot. She launches into how she’s seen Ana Camila/NAC and Renzo kissing (guess we weren’t shown the kiss from the camera angle with her in the shot). She says that Renzo hasn’t even gotten Jonas’s permission to be mixing with the non-gitana. Renzo tells her she needs to let go of her bitterness and try to find her own happiness. She snottily agrees she should do just that. NAC happens upon them and Laisha takes this as her exit opportunity. Renzo compliments NAC on her appearance.
Almudena and Yumali are giving us a rerun scene. Yumi is trying to get Dena to drink her medicine and Dena is resisting. She says the medicine will not make her forget that Esme is dead. Yumi says if you won’t drink this for yourself, then drink it for your husband, he needs you.
Monty goes over the plans to move his weapons into the city. He’s talking with one of Fernando’s guys I think. Monty’s ticked that FS is no where to be found. Piza walks in and at this point the bad weather outside interfered with my reception, so I missed what was said in the end of this scene.
FS is out riding and has flash backs to arguments between him and Maria Pia---where she accused him of killing Regina/Purina and the one where she told him how she hates him. He says he’ll make things easier for her now. He pulls out a long rope and starts to make a noose. Initally I am impressed by his skill with the rope. Then I think- UGH!! Fernando suicide is not the answer and personally I think you just want to make Maria Pia feel terrible because she “forced” you to kill yourself because of her rejection. It is just plain and simple—you’re selfish!! Yes you are mentally unstable and I wish you'd get some help, but bottom line is, you are only thinking of yourself (par for the course for him, I know).
Alej and Yumi are talking about the state of Dena and Alej’s worried (ulcer 2). Al says there is nothing they can do, Dena’s going to die. Yumi tries to comfort him and tells him not to give up hope. He says he feels so guilty, she tells him that he doesn’t bare the brunt of it alone, she was there that night too (yep, it takes two to tango). Alej takes this opportunity, when they are standing in the open corridor, to spell out why he feels guilty. He slept with Yumi after he married Dena. Dena overhears this whole conversation and needless to say she is muy impactada.
The Queen and the Duke wait for Zorro to come visit. DJ says he’ll go along with this visit, but if at any time he thinks Zorro means to harm the Queen, he’ll take action. Zorro will be a dead man.
Piza is in the plaza looking around at all the soldiers placed in strategic locations. Piza looks worried and since I missed the end of the last scene I don’t know what for, so can I list it as part of the ulcer count? Why not (ulcer 3).
Padre Tomás is crossing the plaza and one of the soldier warns him to be careful, they are on a dangerous mission. PT picks up the pace and hides behind a corner to tell the viewing audience that he fears there is a trap laid for Zorro.
Selenia tells her mini me that they need to pack up and get out of Dodge. MM wants to know why they are leaving when their efforts are finally paying off (literally). Selenia says they need to get out of there before Olmos kills them, their lives are worth more than money. She adds that Olmos is sure to kill them once he learns that Mangle’s hypnosis will wear off. Selenia adds that Olmos will end up paying for what he’s done because Mangle will go back to seeing him as the monster he is. MM wonders when it will wear off and Selenia says after Mangle has slept with him. HAH!
Olmos heads back to Mangle and she puts the moves on her little man. She tells him she was waiting for him and she closes the door. She goes in for a kiss (didn’t this woman just, I mean, just give birth? Is it safe for her to be doing the horizontal bop this soon after having a baby?).
Esme contemplates the burned image of the mapdallion and remembers what her mother told her about all of her fortune being tied up with the medallion. It is a light bulb moment for our heroine.
The Queen & DJ are waiting when all the candles get blown out. She says something about being in the dark and Zorro comes in with a torch. He assures her that after they talk, she’ll see things much more clearly. The Duke is disturb by these words. END OF THE EPISODE/ Ulcers 3
Diego spots the sailor with the medallion and he demands to know where the guy got it. The sailor says it’s his, but Diego doesn’t believe him. So he offers money in exchange for the truth. The soldier tells Diego a beautiful young slave woman had the necklace with the medallion, however he doesn’t remember her name. The sailor is insistent that the necklace is his because he found it hung up on a floating piece of wood after the ship went down. Diego snatches the medallion and gives the man a bag (full of coins, we are to assume).
Alejandro gives his blessing to the engagement of Alfonso (Alf) and Maria Pia (yes, they’ve been dating for months and this is the first time Alej met the man, but anyone is better than Fernando, so Alej is all in favor of the union). Speaking of Fernando, he is standing in the background listening in on the exchange and he looks none too happy. He speaks up and says that MP can’t marry this man. Alej is annoyed that Fernando just strolled into the house and he insists that Fernando leave. Alf steps up and tells FS that the issue is something to be resolved between the two of them so he should just leave los de la Vega alone. Any further verbal sparring is halted by the arrival of Dolores carrying the beautiful baby. He becomes the center of attention and Fernando is moved by the sight of his “almost” grandson. FS smiles and it seems like all the business of MP’s engagement has been put to the back burner.
Mangle and Olmos sweet talk to each other. She sees Olmos as a dapper bald man, but to the viewing audience he’s still a toupee wearing hunchback. They talk about the baby’s birth and how Olmos saved Mangle and the baby (not). Mangle says she never realized before the value of Olmos’s friendship. Agapito comes in to check on the patient and Mangle pays little attention to him, she’s only got eyes for Olmos (man, I’m loving this!!). She makes small talk and asks about the baby, when can she see him (you’ve gotta see the baby!!---With another reference to Seinfeld--I’m sure no one would have been able to say anything complimentary about the spawn of Monty other than it is breath-taking, little horned creature. I’m sure it had a tail, too). Olmos tells her she can see her son whenever she wants.
Esme wanders away from the water a bit and comes across a knocked out SAM. She is able to revive him and goes into major cheerleader mode. She tells him that he’s got the strength to get up and get going. SAM decides he can do it because it must be divine intervention, them being alive. He says that God must have wanted them to live and that’s why they are here. Esme agrees.
Diego goes to Padre Tomás with the medallion. He’s convinced the Esme’s alive, but PT thinks it could be just coincidence. Diego feels it is very unlikely that a slave that matches Esme’s description ended up with her medallion. Diego tells PT that he’s going to visit the Queen tonight as Zorro and he’s going to tell her all the details of the whole sorted business. It will be a major rehash session. PT tells Diego to be careful and just then Monty walks up and Diego quickly hides the medallion he was showing PT. Monty wants to congratulate PT on being assigned as the Queen’s confessor during her visit. Monty makes some comment about PT being alone w/ the Queen without anyone interrupting. PT says that he could offer the same service to Monty, he could be his confessor. Monty laughs and walks away. Padre Tomás says he didn’t like the look in Monty’s eyes, he’s got to be up to something (when isn’t he up to something?).
The Queen tells the Duke that she wants to hold a masquerade ball (quick flash, Diego better not attend or everyone will be able to figure out he is Zorro). DJ doesn’t like this idea, he’s worried (ulcer 1). He says it is for the Queen’s safety, but we all know it is because he’s afraid the gig is up once Zorro spills the beans to the Queen. TQ says that she wants them to enjoy their time while they are in LA.
SAM and Esme wander and come across Camba. Esme tries to assure him that they won’t harm him, they are friends. SAM uses some hand gestures to show Camba that they are now free like birds. Camba seems to understand and he rips off his shirt and rolls around in the sand.
Diego in the Fox Cave, shows Bernardo the medallion and rehashes how he got it and what the sailor had to say.
Esme and SAM are dragging some sort of box. She shows SAM her hand and he tells her to take it easy, to go gather dry wood for a fire. They’ll need to build a fire to keep warm. Esme takes off, but first she breaks off a twig and puts up her hair (you know, first things first).
Fernando is proud of his nieto. Alej says –okay you’ve seen him now amscray. FS says this little baby bonds us together, makes us family---mixes their blood. He waxes about how Esme wasn’t his daughter, but Mangle is his true daughter and this is her son (audience knowing the inside secret, has a chuckle at this comment). Diego overhears and is ticked off at FS’s attitude toward Esme. Diego says that Esme was loved in this household for who she was not for her bloodline. Fernando realizes that he crossed a line (again) and attempts to apologize for that and for also killing Diego’s mother. That’s not enough, he begs Alej to not allow MP to marry Alf. His timing isn’t the greatest and once again, Alej asks him to leave.
Esme comes across a wounded Gluck (the officer from the slave ship).
Olmos goes to pay Selenia. He thanks her for Mangle’s turn around. He says he’s the happiest man and feels like he’s living in a dream. Selenia seems pleased to hear this and then Olmos turns around with a gun. He tells her that THIS is her payment for making him a freak with her curse. She tries to talk him out of doing anything rash. He jumps into a soliloquy about how he’d never have to use the potion on Mangle if it wasn’t for her. If he was blessed with the natural good looks he should have had he would have been able to woo her without the use of potion.
Alf tells Maria Pia that after they marry they should head to Europe. He’d like to introduce her to his friends there (wonder if they’ve heard about her already---wouldn’t that be a scream, oceans and the whole transportation issues and his friends in Europe know about MP before Alej, who lives in the same house, found out). MP says she’d be delighted to meet Alf’s friends. Fernando overhears this exchange and our wonderful Arturo Peniche delivers a fine performance. He sends a smoldering look in MP’s direction and she gives him a look back that I can’t find words to describe. (Part of me thought she might be lamenting that it isn’t Fernando that she’s making these plans with, combined with a smug anger because this is all do to FS’s evil actions years before and up to the present day).
Fernando leaves and Prudencio wants to tag along. FS tells Prudi to leave him alone.
Selenia tells Olmos that she can change him and how people see him. She gets him to look into the mirror and says what you see is what everyone will see. Olmos sees an image of himself, the same one Mangle saw earlier. He obviously likes what he sees and agrees to not kill her, but he’s not going to pay her for the transformation----it will be in exchange for his not killing her.
Alej and Diego talk about the medallion and rehash Diego’s idea that Esme’s alive. Alej questions why would Monty keep her alive, it would be stupid of him to keep her alive and then sell her to slaves.
Esme helps Gluck. He has a bleeding wound and she makes a tourniquet. He’s weak from blood loss, but notices the brand on her palm. He says it looks like some sort of map. Esme says there is no way she’d hang out with a slave trader. He tells her she’s got it all wrong, he wasn’t one of them he was just working for them. He couldn’t get anyone to hire him as a captain, so he took what work he could, but he’s a good captain. He says he could take her to the place shown on her mapdallion.
Sara Kali is talking to Jonas and Suzi at the gypsy camp. She explains to them that the medallion she gave Esme was really a map (story line moving at warp speed in this story arc). Her mother hid their treasure and the medallion is the map to it. SK says she thought that Esme would live longer than her, but alas no. Hermes comments that SK constantly is surprising him and why does she always wait to the last moment to pop out news. Sara Kali says it is because she’s patient. Anyway, SK says they need the money now to carry out their mission. They talk about the logistics of not having the map and SK decides she’ll have to draw it from memory.
SAM starts to build a shelter and Esme returns and tells him about Gluck and her branded mapdallion. She fills SAM in on Gluck saying he wasn’t one of the slave traders. SAM isn’t convinced and tells Esme not to trust the man. That’s right SAM, birds of a feather and all that. Camba returns with bananas and some other food. They are happy to eat.
Zorro goes out riding and questions the wind---where are you Esme?
Renzo and Laisha are talking. He asks her why she is a bigot. She launches into how she’s seen Ana Camila/NAC and Renzo kissing (guess we weren’t shown the kiss from the camera angle with her in the shot). She says that Renzo hasn’t even gotten Jonas’s permission to be mixing with the non-gitana. Renzo tells her she needs to let go of her bitterness and try to find her own happiness. She snottily agrees she should do just that. NAC happens upon them and Laisha takes this as her exit opportunity. Renzo compliments NAC on her appearance.
Almudena and Yumali are giving us a rerun scene. Yumi is trying to get Dena to drink her medicine and Dena is resisting. She says the medicine will not make her forget that Esme is dead. Yumi says if you won’t drink this for yourself, then drink it for your husband, he needs you.
Monty goes over the plans to move his weapons into the city. He’s talking with one of Fernando’s guys I think. Monty’s ticked that FS is no where to be found. Piza walks in and at this point the bad weather outside interfered with my reception, so I missed what was said in the end of this scene.
FS is out riding and has flash backs to arguments between him and Maria Pia---where she accused him of killing Regina/Purina and the one where she told him how she hates him. He says he’ll make things easier for her now. He pulls out a long rope and starts to make a noose. Initally I am impressed by his skill with the rope. Then I think- UGH!! Fernando suicide is not the answer and personally I think you just want to make Maria Pia feel terrible because she “forced” you to kill yourself because of her rejection. It is just plain and simple—you’re selfish!! Yes you are mentally unstable and I wish you'd get some help, but bottom line is, you are only thinking of yourself (par for the course for him, I know).
Alej and Yumi are talking about the state of Dena and Alej’s worried (ulcer 2). Al says there is nothing they can do, Dena’s going to die. Yumi tries to comfort him and tells him not to give up hope. He says he feels so guilty, she tells him that he doesn’t bare the brunt of it alone, she was there that night too (yep, it takes two to tango). Alej takes this opportunity, when they are standing in the open corridor, to spell out why he feels guilty. He slept with Yumi after he married Dena. Dena overhears this whole conversation and needless to say she is muy impactada.
The Queen and the Duke wait for Zorro to come visit. DJ says he’ll go along with this visit, but if at any time he thinks Zorro means to harm the Queen, he’ll take action. Zorro will be a dead man.
Piza is in the plaza looking around at all the soldiers placed in strategic locations. Piza looks worried and since I missed the end of the last scene I don’t know what for, so can I list it as part of the ulcer count? Why not (ulcer 3).
Padre Tomás is crossing the plaza and one of the soldier warns him to be careful, they are on a dangerous mission. PT picks up the pace and hides behind a corner to tell the viewing audience that he fears there is a trap laid for Zorro.
Selenia tells her mini me that they need to pack up and get out of Dodge. MM wants to know why they are leaving when their efforts are finally paying off (literally). Selenia says they need to get out of there before Olmos kills them, their lives are worth more than money. She adds that Olmos is sure to kill them once he learns that Mangle’s hypnosis will wear off. Selenia adds that Olmos will end up paying for what he’s done because Mangle will go back to seeing him as the monster he is. MM wonders when it will wear off and Selenia says after Mangle has slept with him. HAH!
Olmos heads back to Mangle and she puts the moves on her little man. She tells him she was waiting for him and she closes the door. She goes in for a kiss (didn’t this woman just, I mean, just give birth? Is it safe for her to be doing the horizontal bop this soon after having a baby?).
Esme contemplates the burned image of the mapdallion and remembers what her mother told her about all of her fortune being tied up with the medallion. It is a light bulb moment for our heroine.
The Queen & DJ are waiting when all the candles get blown out. She says something about being in the dark and Zorro comes in with a torch. He assures her that after they talk, she’ll see things much more clearly. The Duke is disturb by these words. END OF THE EPISODE/ Ulcers 3
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Dang Cathy, you must've typed this right after the episode! You rock =) All I remember Piza saying at the end is that if Zorro could get through them this time, they'd know he was not human.
I am reminded of a South Park episode (yes, the show's sick and wrong, but I love it) where the kids are on the bus on the way home from school and somehow get derailed and stuck precariously on top of a mountain. After hours waiting they get some TV reception somehow only to find that their parents have put together an impromptu concert begging them to come home (they apparently think the kids all ran away). Kyle turns to his friends and says: "Hasn't it occurred to anyone to just come look for us?" That was pretty much my feeling as Diego went to everyone and their mother talking about the medallion and saying he wants to talk to the sailor some more and I keep thinking: "Go to the beach dummy! See if there were any survivors!" Ditto for the rest of the town that insists that there were no survivors, even after one shows up. We've already counted 3 more! Just saying...
Anywhoo, about the Q's, continuity, etc. I might have heard wrong, but I thought I heard the fight promoter saying although Kamba wouldn't go on the ring anymore, he'd still make him some money (ie, since the gypsies weren't going to let Kamba fight, he'd tell the slave traders where he was hiding so they'd give him some $$$ since they'd been looking for him for so long). I think Olmos sent Esme & Garcia to the slave traders just to get some extra cash 'cause he's just greedy. Since neither SK nor Esme would ever show up again, he'd still be ok with the duke. As far as the slave ship leaving rather than arriving in CA: I don't remember the dates, but I do remember that Europe outlawed slavery before any country in the Americas and they banned bringing in slaves from Africa. Therefore, all the trading was done within the Americas and the ship was probably going south, maybe Brazil? The pirate ship theory might be right too.
I gotta say, I think "handsome" Olmos actually is kinda handsome. He's taller (cause he's not hunched over), lost the icky toupe, he's not squinting his lovely eyes, his mustache is better groomed, and his speech is less shaky, his voice sounds deeper. I gotta say, I was kind of impressed with the actor's transformation, largely in demeanor and speech, from one character to the other. He's not my type, but I can see it. I'm sooo looking forward to Mangle waking up in his arms after a night of passion! She'll probably scream and try to chew her arm off (and all will walk in just like when she was in bed with Diego and they'll know what a slut she is!).
I do think it's a little bit of a stretch that Al went so long without meeting Fonzie (sorry, I just like calling him that) but they tried to explain it (albeit clumsily) saying there had been so much going on and they'd been getting to know each other so it just hadn't happened.
I do hope they find a way to get Esme back to Diego soon. If they wait too long, there will be a need of a birthmark or something for Esme to recognize her own kid. If they do this soon, both she and Garcia can ID little Tisha as he hasn't had a chance to change in 48hrs or so.
I'm torn about FS. On the one hand, it's very dramatic and exciting to kill off the major villain. But he's just so great and evil I'm not ready to see him go so long before the novela ends. Maybe we'll see him in flashbacks. Maybe Prudi will have followed him and will take him down before he actually dies (but after he passes out 'cause otherwise he'd fight him). Maybe BA will find him and try to redeem him or something. Dunno, I just think we can still get some more mileage out of him.
Dang Cathy, you must've typed this right after the episode! You rock =) All I remember Piza saying at the end is that if Zorro could get through them this time, they'd know he was not human.
I am reminded of a South Park episode (yes, the show's sick and wrong, but I love it) where the kids are on the bus on the way home from school and somehow get derailed and stuck precariously on top of a mountain. After hours waiting they get some TV reception somehow only to find that their parents have put together an impromptu concert begging them to come home (they apparently think the kids all ran away). Kyle turns to his friends and says: "Hasn't it occurred to anyone to just come look for us?" That was pretty much my feeling as Diego went to everyone and their mother talking about the medallion and saying he wants to talk to the sailor some more and I keep thinking: "Go to the beach dummy! See if there were any survivors!" Ditto for the rest of the town that insists that there were no survivors, even after one shows up. We've already counted 3 more! Just saying...
Anywhoo, about the Q's, continuity, etc. I might have heard wrong, but I thought I heard the fight promoter saying although Kamba wouldn't go on the ring anymore, he'd still make him some money (ie, since the gypsies weren't going to let Kamba fight, he'd tell the slave traders where he was hiding so they'd give him some $$$ since they'd been looking for him for so long). I think Olmos sent Esme & Garcia to the slave traders just to get some extra cash 'cause he's just greedy. Since neither SK nor Esme would ever show up again, he'd still be ok with the duke. As far as the slave ship leaving rather than arriving in CA: I don't remember the dates, but I do remember that Europe outlawed slavery before any country in the Americas and they banned bringing in slaves from Africa. Therefore, all the trading was done within the Americas and the ship was probably going south, maybe Brazil? The pirate ship theory might be right too.
I gotta say, I think "handsome" Olmos actually is kinda handsome. He's taller (cause he's not hunched over), lost the icky toupe, he's not squinting his lovely eyes, his mustache is better groomed, and his speech is less shaky, his voice sounds deeper. I gotta say, I was kind of impressed with the actor's transformation, largely in demeanor and speech, from one character to the other. He's not my type, but I can see it. I'm sooo looking forward to Mangle waking up in his arms after a night of passion! She'll probably scream and try to chew her arm off (and all will walk in just like when she was in bed with Diego and they'll know what a slut she is!).
I do think it's a little bit of a stretch that Al went so long without meeting Fonzie (sorry, I just like calling him that) but they tried to explain it (albeit clumsily) saying there had been so much going on and they'd been getting to know each other so it just hadn't happened.
I do hope they find a way to get Esme back to Diego soon. If they wait too long, there will be a need of a birthmark or something for Esme to recognize her own kid. If they do this soon, both she and Garcia can ID little Tisha as he hasn't had a chance to change in 48hrs or so.
I'm torn about FS. On the one hand, it's very dramatic and exciting to kill off the major villain. But he's just so great and evil I'm not ready to see him go so long before the novela ends. Maybe we'll see him in flashbacks. Maybe Prudi will have followed him and will take him down before he actually dies (but after he passes out 'cause otherwise he'd fight him). Maybe BA will find him and try to redeem him or something. Dunno, I just think we can still get some more mileage out of him.
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: Thursday, June 21, 2007 at 5:06:00 AM EDT
: Thursday, June 21, 2007 at 5:06:00 AM EDT
Great recap, Cathy!
I am right with you Margarita. I kept yelling at Diego - Go to the shipwreck site, you nincompoop!
If the sailor was the only survivor, then Esme is dead again. If not, she's a shipwreck victim wandering around alone. Nobody knows Garcia was with her.
Hey that 1-day old baby can hold his head up pretty good!
It appears from the scenes from tonight's episode, that the box Esme and Garcia dragged around is full of gold.
I don't think FS is going to succeed in hanging himself. I bet Brother Aaron will come along. FS isn't going to kick the bucket until the last couple of episodes. In fact, I predict, as was suggested in comments to yesterday's episode, that FS will die saving Alf's life so that MP can finally find happiness.
It's nice that the actor who plays Olmos gets a chance to show what he really looks like. He's no Christian Meier but he's isn't bad looking - and a very good actor.
As for the slave ship, when we first encountered Camba, he was a runaway slave being tracked by slave hunters who find runaways and returned them to their masters. The writers seem to have dropped that part of the story but it would make some sense if the ship was returning slaves who had run away to California back to Mexico.
I am right with you Margarita. I kept yelling at Diego - Go to the shipwreck site, you nincompoop!
If the sailor was the only survivor, then Esme is dead again. If not, she's a shipwreck victim wandering around alone. Nobody knows Garcia was with her.
Hey that 1-day old baby can hold his head up pretty good!
It appears from the scenes from tonight's episode, that the box Esme and Garcia dragged around is full of gold.
I don't think FS is going to succeed in hanging himself. I bet Brother Aaron will come along. FS isn't going to kick the bucket until the last couple of episodes. In fact, I predict, as was suggested in comments to yesterday's episode, that FS will die saving Alf's life so that MP can finally find happiness.
It's nice that the actor who plays Olmos gets a chance to show what he really looks like. He's no Christian Meier but he's isn't bad looking - and a very good actor.
As for the slave ship, when we first encountered Camba, he was a runaway slave being tracked by slave hunters who find runaways and returned them to their masters. The writers seem to have dropped that part of the story but it would make some sense if the ship was returning slaves who had run away to California back to Mexico.
Concerning the mapdallion - Wouldn't the money have to be in Spain? SK's mother was in Spain. Azucena gave the medallion to Esme in Spain. In fact, I can't remember if we were ever told how it was that SK ended up in prison in Alta California. Almudena believed that SK died when Esme was born - in Spain. If FS sent SK from Spain to prison in LA, she couldn't have taken have taken the money with her. But dollars to donuts, I bet we're going to find out that the money is in or near California. Maybe the cannibals are guarding it. We haven't seen them for a while.
Margarita, thanks for explaining some of the plot transitions. The story makes more sense now. Also, great South Park analogy.
The Olmos transition is very interesting. Yes, the handsome Olmos is very suave, but I think a large part of it is the attractiveness that comes from inner confidence. Just saying.
Esme's dress keeps getting lower and lower. Last night when she was talking to Garcia just her head and shoulders were in the frame. My boyfriend walked through the room, stopped, and gasped "Is she naked?" I had a good laugh over that one. Then he saw the bamboo forest, "Aren't they supposed to be in California?" I gave him the Don't Ask look.
It's an interesting little group of survivors there in the bamboo forest. I wonder how they will get along? Gluck intimated he has some sort of background, so I imagine we'll find out through this story line.
Go Diego! Find Esme! At last we have some light at the end of the very long, dark tunnel.
Great recap Cathy, very speedy and I liked your editorial comments.
The Olmos transition is very interesting. Yes, the handsome Olmos is very suave, but I think a large part of it is the attractiveness that comes from inner confidence. Just saying.
Esme's dress keeps getting lower and lower. Last night when she was talking to Garcia just her head and shoulders were in the frame. My boyfriend walked through the room, stopped, and gasped "Is she naked?" I had a good laugh over that one. Then he saw the bamboo forest, "Aren't they supposed to be in California?" I gave him the Don't Ask look.
It's an interesting little group of survivors there in the bamboo forest. I wonder how they will get along? Gluck intimated he has some sort of background, so I imagine we'll find out through this story line.
Go Diego! Find Esme! At last we have some light at the end of the very long, dark tunnel.
Great recap Cathy, very speedy and I liked your editorial comments.
Permalink posted by : Thursday, June 21, 2007 at 11:06:00 AM EDT
: Thursday, June 21, 2007 at 11:06:00 AM EDT
I love everyone's comments, and they're a lot of my feelings, too, so I can't comment on much. Great recap, Cathy, and so FAST!
Now, I love love love FS (and Peniche), but I hope I've never excused him - but I actually felt sorry for him last night for the first time. The smackdown from Alejandro, and the look from Maria Pia...before she put the nail in the coffin. Like Selenia told him - hell is a played you've lived in for a very long time. And he put himself there by continuing to make the same stupid mistakes!
As to the treasure - SK mentioned something last night about her mother hiding it in "these lands." When her mom traveled to Los Angeles to bury a treasure, then return to Spain, I don't know...but I just don't question anymore.
The Almudena storyline drags - Lully Bossa deserves so much better than this. Will finally hearing Alejandro's confession spur her back to life? Will seeing the baby? Or will that just make her more resigned than ever to get on with the business of dying, to leave Alej and Yuma together?
BTW, fun fact - Danny Gluck is Flavio Peniche, Arturo Peniche's brother (if that hadn't already been mentioned)
Now, I love love love FS (and Peniche), but I hope I've never excused him - but I actually felt sorry for him last night for the first time. The smackdown from Alejandro, and the look from Maria Pia...before she put the nail in the coffin. Like Selenia told him - hell is a played you've lived in for a very long time. And he put himself there by continuing to make the same stupid mistakes!
As to the treasure - SK mentioned something last night about her mother hiding it in "these lands." When her mom traveled to Los Angeles to bury a treasure, then return to Spain, I don't know...but I just don't question anymore.
The Almudena storyline drags - Lully Bossa deserves so much better than this. Will finally hearing Alejandro's confession spur her back to life? Will seeing the baby? Or will that just make her more resigned than ever to get on with the business of dying, to leave Alej and Yuma together?
BTW, fun fact - Danny Gluck is Flavio Peniche, Arturo Peniche's brother (if that hadn't already been mentioned)
I can get on board with calling Alf Fonzie. Just didn't think of that last night when I was typing it up.
I still think Al not meeting Fonzie for six months is highly unlikely and it would have been better if they just let the audience assume they've met in the 6 month fast forward.
Yeah, I didn't even think of why they didn't have Diego go off immediately and search for Esme among the shipwreck? Was it because he had to keep the all important meeting with the Queen? Speaking of that, I think it was pretty dumb on his part to announce his next visit. The whole Zorro thing works best with the element of surprise. So tonight we'll be treated to another "almost" unmasking of Zorro....yawn! It would be more interesting to see him go off and search for Esme rather than meet the Queen and have another face off with Monty.
Another thing I was thinking about, how many days has it been since the women gave birth? In Esme's case it seems like some time ago, so much has happened. But for Mangle it seems like just a few hours because she's still in bed!!
Final note, can anyone sub for next Wed.'s recap? I'm going to be out of town camping--so no tv and no internet. If not, I'll just have to recap when I return and watch the tape, which will be during the weekend.
I still think Al not meeting Fonzie for six months is highly unlikely and it would have been better if they just let the audience assume they've met in the 6 month fast forward.
Yeah, I didn't even think of why they didn't have Diego go off immediately and search for Esme among the shipwreck? Was it because he had to keep the all important meeting with the Queen? Speaking of that, I think it was pretty dumb on his part to announce his next visit. The whole Zorro thing works best with the element of surprise. So tonight we'll be treated to another "almost" unmasking of Zorro....yawn! It would be more interesting to see him go off and search for Esme rather than meet the Queen and have another face off with Monty.
Another thing I was thinking about, how many days has it been since the women gave birth? In Esme's case it seems like some time ago, so much has happened. But for Mangle it seems like just a few hours because she's still in bed!!
Final note, can anyone sub for next Wed.'s recap? I'm going to be out of town camping--so no tv and no internet. If not, I'll just have to recap when I return and watch the tape, which will be during the weekend.
Cathy, thanks for the funny recap.
Those Sanchez de Moncada sisters are something else. Ten minutes after giving birth, one survives a shipwreck and helps drag a gold-filled chest through the forest while the other starts making out with her private secretary.
Margarita, your South Park analogy cracked me up. Does no one in Alta California have common sense? In the scene during the Queen's arrival, weren't Alfie and Maria Pia linked arm-in-arm on the viewing stand? Did it not occur to Alejandro to turn around and ask his sister, "Hey, who's the guy?"
Fernando cannot die yet. He's too valuable a character. After he skipped town last time, the story line fell flat.
The plot will send someone tromping through the woods tonight to *come upon* FS. Maybe Almudena fleeing the hacienda . . .
For the love of all that is holy, please keep Selenia in the story.
Marie from Mass
Those Sanchez de Moncada sisters are something else. Ten minutes after giving birth, one survives a shipwreck and helps drag a gold-filled chest through the forest while the other starts making out with her private secretary.
Margarita, your South Park analogy cracked me up. Does no one in Alta California have common sense? In the scene during the Queen's arrival, weren't Alfie and Maria Pia linked arm-in-arm on the viewing stand? Did it not occur to Alejandro to turn around and ask his sister, "Hey, who's the guy?"
Fernando cannot die yet. He's too valuable a character. After he skipped town last time, the story line fell flat.
The plot will send someone tromping through the woods tonight to *come upon* FS. Maybe Almudena fleeing the hacienda . . .
For the love of all that is holy, please keep Selenia in the story.
Marie from Mass
Permalink posted by : Thursday, June 21, 2007 at 1:36:00 PM EDT
: Thursday, June 21, 2007 at 1:36:00 PM EDT
Hi Cathy: I can sub for you next Wed.
Marie: Of course, you are right. Alf and MP were together with Alej when the Queen arrived. So the writers are even dumber than we thought. Or more likely, they're under tremendous pressure to churn the stuff out and no one checks for big boo boo's.
Concerning the tough Sanchez de Moncada sisters (of course, they're not really sisters but whatever), remember all the things Esme went through in the first 3 months of her pregnancy - she was shot, put on the rack, put in an paper mache, I mean, iron mask, wasn't she whipped too? Little Alej just hung in there.
That's neat that Danny Gluck is Arturo Peniche's brother. I'm sure he is going to lead Esme to the money and then try and take it.
Marie: Of course, you are right. Alf and MP were together with Alej when the Queen arrived. So the writers are even dumber than we thought. Or more likely, they're under tremendous pressure to churn the stuff out and no one checks for big boo boo's.
Concerning the tough Sanchez de Moncada sisters (of course, they're not really sisters but whatever), remember all the things Esme went through in the first 3 months of her pregnancy - she was shot, put on the rack, put in an paper mache, I mean, iron mask, wasn't she whipped too? Little Alej just hung in there.
That's neat that Danny Gluck is Arturo Peniche's brother. I'm sure he is going to lead Esme to the money and then try and take it.
Marie, I'm with you 100% on keeping Selenia in the story! I'm going to be seriously bummed out if she doesn't keep turning up.
A wild guess about Gluck: "Glück" in German means "luck". Treasure chest full of pirate's stuff (gold, silver, jewels, etc), probably belonged to Gluck, Esmeralda and the gitanos wind up with it. Works for me.
Margarita, your comment about the fighters/slave traders plot question makes sense.
On the Alejandro meeting Alfonso issue, yeah, it's a gap. But if we want to alibi the writers, we could say that General Alejandro's a really busy guy, running the giant hacienda, keeping his reserve troops drilled and trained and well-armed, wringing his hands over Almudena, fending off Yumalai's advances, sword-fighting with Fernando - the guy's got a lot on his plate. And he's supposedly the richest guy and leading citizen in Los Angeles, so Alfonso had to wait for the correct protocol moment, being an itenerant outsider and all.
I enjoyed the Blue Lagoon idyll after Esmeralda and Camba and García quickly recovered after near-suffocation from the fire and near-drowning in the escape. It's true, Esmeralda's hair and skin have weathered her trials remarkably well. But look at her mother. Twenty years in an iron mask and her hair and skin are fine, too. (Wouldn't 20 years without sunlight turn most people's skin blue or something?) So she's got tough hair-and-skin genes.
In fact, everyone seems to have remarkable recuperative powers on this show. After el Gobernador beat Alfonso within an inch of his life, the next day or so he was strolling in the woods with María Pía completely healed except for some bruising on the right side of his face. And, of course, Mangle was ready for her usual pasttime a day or so after giving birth and being poisoned. But then the air in Los Angeles was much better in 1810 or so.
I've gotten curious about the slavery question now. I'm going to actually look it up when I get a few minues. But as I recall, Spain allowed slavery in the colonies, and the Spanish slaves were not all Africans as in the English colonies. I believe it was after independence that Mexico abolished slavery.
But I'm pretty sure international slave trading was generally outlawed at that time. Slave traders were generally considered to be scum, even by the slaveowners who depended on them. So I assume we're supposed to see the slave traders and anyone who cooperates with them in Zorro as real dirtbags. Like Olmos, for instance.
The Mangle/Olmos romance is one of the best things they've done on this show. I hope they don't sleep together right away because I want to see this play out for a while.
A wild guess about Gluck: "Glück" in German means "luck". Treasure chest full of pirate's stuff (gold, silver, jewels, etc), probably belonged to Gluck, Esmeralda and the gitanos wind up with it. Works for me.
Margarita, your comment about the fighters/slave traders plot question makes sense.
On the Alejandro meeting Alfonso issue, yeah, it's a gap. But if we want to alibi the writers, we could say that General Alejandro's a really busy guy, running the giant hacienda, keeping his reserve troops drilled and trained and well-armed, wringing his hands over Almudena, fending off Yumalai's advances, sword-fighting with Fernando - the guy's got a lot on his plate. And he's supposedly the richest guy and leading citizen in Los Angeles, so Alfonso had to wait for the correct protocol moment, being an itenerant outsider and all.
I enjoyed the Blue Lagoon idyll after Esmeralda and Camba and García quickly recovered after near-suffocation from the fire and near-drowning in the escape. It's true, Esmeralda's hair and skin have weathered her trials remarkably well. But look at her mother. Twenty years in an iron mask and her hair and skin are fine, too. (Wouldn't 20 years without sunlight turn most people's skin blue or something?) So she's got tough hair-and-skin genes.
In fact, everyone seems to have remarkable recuperative powers on this show. After el Gobernador beat Alfonso within an inch of his life, the next day or so he was strolling in the woods with María Pía completely healed except for some bruising on the right side of his face. And, of course, Mangle was ready for her usual pasttime a day or so after giving birth and being poisoned. But then the air in Los Angeles was much better in 1810 or so.
I've gotten curious about the slavery question now. I'm going to actually look it up when I get a few minues. But as I recall, Spain allowed slavery in the colonies, and the Spanish slaves were not all Africans as in the English colonies. I believe it was after independence that Mexico abolished slavery.
But I'm pretty sure international slave trading was generally outlawed at that time. Slave traders were generally considered to be scum, even by the slaveowners who depended on them. So I assume we're supposed to see the slave traders and anyone who cooperates with them in Zorro as real dirtbags. Like Olmos, for instance.
The Mangle/Olmos romance is one of the best things they've done on this show. I hope they don't sleep together right away because I want to see this play out for a while.
Cathy, thanks for another wonderful recap! Doing several last week, I got a taste of what you do weekly for us!
Ah, thank heaven Esme, Garcia and Camba have made it. The palm imprint is a really interesting development; what creativity the writers had with that one!
Whoa, Olmos and MA are almost at it within just a few days after she gave birth. Seems like that’s rushing it, but he would have rushed it even more if he had his way. Looks like he’s going to have his way anyway, just delayed a little.
Maybe Padre Tomás is going to alert the brotherhood and Bernardo to be ready for problems. Zorro has been known to get out of tight situations, though.
“The Queen tells the Duke that she wants to hold a masquerade ball (quick flash, Diego better not attend or everyone will be able to figure out he is Zorro).” LOL! For sure!
“Esme comes across a wounded Gluck (the officer from the slave ship).” Well, now we know why he introduced himself by name the night before. He’s going to be with us for a while. Maybe, just maybe, he has potential for reform. Anybody taking odds?
It seemed like Prudencio wanted to tell FS something important. I wonder if it was, or I just imagined it.
“She explains to them that the medallion she gave Esme was really a map (story line moving at warp speed in this story arc).” Nothing like getting it all in one night.
Fernando can’t go yet. He hasn’t really suffered. Couldn’t Monty lock him in Callao with an iron mask or something, first?
I felt really sorry for Dena, overhearing what she did last night. Even if she is trying to get them to look after each other, I doubt that this was what she had in mind.
“MM wonders when it will wear off and Selenia says after Mangle has slept with him. HAH!” I wouldn’t want to be Olmos when Mangle’s hypnosis wears off. Yikes. Hell hath no fury…..and Mangle hasn’t been scorned but she’s gonna be more than scornful when it comes down.
Loved reading everyone's comments today!
Jeanne
Ah, thank heaven Esme, Garcia and Camba have made it. The palm imprint is a really interesting development; what creativity the writers had with that one!
Whoa, Olmos and MA are almost at it within just a few days after she gave birth. Seems like that’s rushing it, but he would have rushed it even more if he had his way. Looks like he’s going to have his way anyway, just delayed a little.
Maybe Padre Tomás is going to alert the brotherhood and Bernardo to be ready for problems. Zorro has been known to get out of tight situations, though.
“The Queen tells the Duke that she wants to hold a masquerade ball (quick flash, Diego better not attend or everyone will be able to figure out he is Zorro).” LOL! For sure!
“Esme comes across a wounded Gluck (the officer from the slave ship).” Well, now we know why he introduced himself by name the night before. He’s going to be with us for a while. Maybe, just maybe, he has potential for reform. Anybody taking odds?
It seemed like Prudencio wanted to tell FS something important. I wonder if it was, or I just imagined it.
“She explains to them that the medallion she gave Esme was really a map (story line moving at warp speed in this story arc).” Nothing like getting it all in one night.
Fernando can’t go yet. He hasn’t really suffered. Couldn’t Monty lock him in Callao with an iron mask or something, first?
I felt really sorry for Dena, overhearing what she did last night. Even if she is trying to get them to look after each other, I doubt that this was what she had in mind.
“MM wonders when it will wear off and Selenia says after Mangle has slept with him. HAH!” I wouldn’t want to be Olmos when Mangle’s hypnosis wears off. Yikes. Hell hath no fury…..and Mangle hasn’t been scorned but she’s gonna be more than scornful when it comes down.
Loved reading everyone's comments today!
Jeanne
Great recap Cathy I am just totally loving just snickering away here at reception at the recap and commentary.
When I saw Zorro on his horse I thought he was headed to check for survivors. But alas it was wishful thinking.
The Mangle and Olmos scenes, all that keeps running through my mind this isn't going to end good.I imagine Mangle is going to take a hot shower in Clorox when the spell wears off. Jim Carrey in the first Ace Ventura Pet Detective comes to mind too.
I was cracking up at SAM talking to Camba. He peppered a few words with 'toley. Too funny.
I want Diego to hurry up and find Esme but I imagine its going to be awhile and Esme to get to her son right away. As for Esme recognizing her little Tisha, Gabe from Mundo de Fieras actually popped into mind. He knew it was his kid just by picking it up and holding him close.
I was cracking up at Diego upon hearing the mapdallion belonged to a pretty lady and no the slave didn't catch her name, its Esmeralda. No offense against Esme but it could have been anybody.
I don't want FS to commit suicide. I prefer the other idea of him redeeming himself in a sacrificing death kind of thing.
When I saw Zorro on his horse I thought he was headed to check for survivors. But alas it was wishful thinking.
The Mangle and Olmos scenes, all that keeps running through my mind this isn't going to end good.I imagine Mangle is going to take a hot shower in Clorox when the spell wears off. Jim Carrey in the first Ace Ventura Pet Detective comes to mind too.
I was cracking up at SAM talking to Camba. He peppered a few words with 'toley. Too funny.
I want Diego to hurry up and find Esme but I imagine its going to be awhile and Esme to get to her son right away. As for Esme recognizing her little Tisha, Gabe from Mundo de Fieras actually popped into mind. He knew it was his kid just by picking it up and holding him close.
I was cracking up at Diego upon hearing the mapdallion belonged to a pretty lady and no the slave didn't catch her name, its Esmeralda. No offense against Esme but it could have been anybody.
I don't want FS to commit suicide. I prefer the other idea of him redeeming himself in a sacrificing death kind of thing.
Permalink posted by : Thursday, June 21, 2007 at 5:11:00 PM EDT
: Thursday, June 21, 2007 at 5:11:00 PM EDT
Great fast recap, Cathy! I was going to comment on some of the humorous blog comments, but there are so many of them that I'll just that I laughed out loud a lot. All of you are so clever. Thanks for the R & R in my busy days.
AliceC
AliceC
Permalink posted by : Thursday, June 21, 2007 at 5:51:00 PM EDT
: Thursday, June 21, 2007 at 5:51:00 PM EDT
Hi Jean,
Shot, whipped, stuffed in an "iron" mask, and stretched on the rack, all in Esme's first trimester . . .not the typical "What To Expect When You're Expecting."
Bruce! You've got it bad for Selenia, doncha?
Marie from Mass
Shot, whipped, stuffed in an "iron" mask, and stretched on the rack, all in Esme's first trimester . . .not the typical "What To Expect When You're Expecting."
Bruce! You've got it bad for Selenia, doncha?
Marie from Mass
Permalink posted by : Thursday, June 21, 2007 at 7:48:00 PM EDT
: Thursday, June 21, 2007 at 7:48:00 PM EDT
Yes, thanks for all the laughs!
I'm hoping Olmos and Mangle get it on right away and the love lasts a while. Even if it doesn't last, she'll be mortified, and possibly preggers.
I hope Fernando stays around, but starts to suffer to a bitter end.
Now, Selenia is so fun, she's got to stay...
jb
I'm hoping Olmos and Mangle get it on right away and the love lasts a while. Even if it doesn't last, she'll be mortified, and possibly preggers.
I hope Fernando stays around, but starts to suffer to a bitter end.
Now, Selenia is so fun, she's got to stay...
jb
Permalink posted by : Thursday, June 21, 2007 at 8:01:00 PM EDT
: Thursday, June 21, 2007 at 8:01:00 PM EDT
I don't want Selenia to leave. She's a good, strong female character with power. I like it.
Jen, thanks for the tidbit on the guy who plays Gluck. He's Arturo's bro, cool.
Bruce, Gluck means luck...very interesting clue there.
jb, Mangle gets pregnant, good thinking on that one. It would serve her right.
FS can't go yet. He's the strongest character in the show.
Jen, thanks for the tidbit on the guy who plays Gluck. He's Arturo's bro, cool.
Bruce, Gluck means luck...very interesting clue there.
jb, Mangle gets pregnant, good thinking on that one. It would serve her right.
FS can't go yet. He's the strongest character in the show.
Permalink posted by : Thursday, June 21, 2007 at 9:09:00 PM EDT
: Thursday, June 21, 2007 at 9:09:00 PM EDT
jb
If Mangle gets embarazada,there's always an outside chance the baby could look JUST like Olmos. And I mean JUST like Olmos. Genetically speaking. There'd be no question in Diego's mind.....
Jeanne
If Mangle gets embarazada,there's always an outside chance the baby could look JUST like Olmos. And I mean JUST like Olmos. Genetically speaking. There'd be no question in Diego's mind.....
Jeanne
hehehe, little Olmos, at least Diego won't fall for that one...
jb
jb
Permalink posted by : Thursday, June 21, 2007 at 9:57:00 PM EDT
: Thursday, June 21, 2007 at 9:57:00 PM EDT
This telenovela is supposed to be based on Isabel Allende's book about Zorro...in which case, the ending is left very open and not particularly happy.
Anybody know if this story is going to end in similar fashion?
I hope that I'm not giving a spoiler here, because I honestly don't know how this telenovela will end.
Anybody know if this story is going to end in similar fashion?
I hope that I'm not giving a spoiler here, because I honestly don't know how this telenovela will end.
Funny that you should mention that, PennyB.
I was just saying to my husband that the way these writers try to make the audience suffer (to the point of disgust), I wouldn't be surprised if they make the ending very unsatisfying.
I'm preparing myself for a letdown. I just can't see it ending where everyone is happy & they all go picnic on the seashore.
AliceC
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I was just saying to my husband that the way these writers try to make the audience suffer (to the point of disgust), I wouldn't be surprised if they make the ending very unsatisfying.
I'm preparing myself for a letdown. I just can't see it ending where everyone is happy & they all go picnic on the seashore.
AliceC
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