Wednesday, October 17, 2007
I Love Juan - Tuesday 10/16 - Love is the triumph of imagination over intelligence*
Hello friends, I am subbing for Amanda tonight and Carmel, former Duelo recapper and queen of the succinct and scathing one-liners, has graciously consented to sub for me on Thursday. Thanks Carmel!
And now, on with the show...
Paula tells Marely that she has decided (again) to buy herself a car. She found the perfect opportunity to stop the madness and she broke up with Juan. Mari asks if that's what all the yelling was about in Paula's office, and what was this "perfect opportunity"? Paula admits that Fernando peeked at her making out like a skanky ho with CL. (OK, those were my words, not hers.) "Bravo!" accuses Mari sarcastically,"but don't leave Juan without a job." Paula observes that as long as Gaitan works for Farell Industries Juan's job is secure.
CL summons Pastor to his office and tries to suck up to him with a glass of whiskey. CL is not at all subtle and immediately enquires how it went between Pastor and Monica. Pastor smugly leers at CL because he knows he has the upper hand...for now.
Ivonne tells Marely that she got rid of Paula's car catalogues, thereby forcing Mari to "run" across the office holding down her skirt that keeps hiking up. What in the heck was this scene for?
CL toasts Gaitan as his right hand man. Pastor reveals that Ivonne told him CL was planning to fire him. CL nervously lights his cigarette and Pastor tells him that he didn't rat him out to Moni, but that CL had better be careful. CL drains his whiskey in one gulp.
Moni tells her maid Chelo that CL and Paula have a mutual attraction and she predicts things will go very badly for them.
Pastor tells Ivonne he's on top of the world and he wishes he'd had a camera to take a picture of CL's face.
Alirio stops by to visit CL. He wants to discuss his future occupation at Farell Industries. CL ignores Alirio then yells at him. Alirio keeps pressing for a better job until an exasperated and self-involved CL loudly kicks Alirio out of his office for interrupting him with stupidities. Outside, Alirio pretends that he and CL are making a lunch date but everyone knows he's full of it. Ivonne claps her hands gleefully at Alirio's misfortune.
Fernando offers his hand to Juan; he wants to make up. Juan scolds Fer and tells him no more chisme about Paula. Speaking of the queen of Rome, Paula shows up and asks Juan to take her to the car dealership. Juan thought-bubbles that his heart is truly broken.
Ivonne observes Marely smiling happily and in deep thought. Mari is no doubt thinking that Juan is once again a single man and available for her sweet love.
After they arrive at the car dealership Juan slips into the back seat next to Paula and says they need to talk. Their relationship is the most important thing in his life and he's not going to stand with crossed arms while it falls apart. Paula tells him the relationship was troubled for days. Juan disagrees. She accuses him of not considering her feelings. (?!?) He says he'll change. He becomes tender and persuasive. Very persuasive. I'd be buttah but Paula runs away, the stoopid cow.
Yadi shows up at the garage looking for Kike. She and Fer have uncomfortable words with each other.
While Paula car shops Juan silently berates himself for misinterpreting the situation all along.
Alirio calls Nidia and complains that he's being treated like a dog at the market. Nidia, in a bubble bath sprinkled with rose petals, accuses him of exaggerating and playing the victim. Ali says he plans to present his resignation. Nidia tells him fine but she'll not allow him to get lazy...leave the job and she'll put him to work cleaning the house.
Yadi finds Kike and tells him they need to talk privately. She acts very sure of herself even though Kike tells her to leave him alone. She has news...she's pregnant! He's gonna be a papa!!
On the way back to work Paula chatters happily about her new car, then she calls Juan infantile for not sharing her enthusiasm. Oh how I loathe her.
Kike nervously accuses Yadi of kidding, how did this happen? She starts to tell him about the birds and the bees. She shakes her finger at him and says she didn't do it alone. She hands him the lab results as proof; he's the first to know. When asked about Nidia Yadi answers that she has an idea, why not get married before telling Nidia the news?
Kike accuses Yadi of doing "it" on purpose to catch him. She says maybe only a little. (News flash Kike, there is birth control for men too.) Yadi tells him he's treating her badly and she flounces out waving her lab results over her head. "Whazzup Kike?" asks Fer, "problemas??"
Gomez the embezzling ex-VP visits Alirio in his office of dusty papers. Alirio wants a percentage of what Gomez skimmed from the company. Gomez announces that he will reveal who the other fat fish is. His accomplice is...Pastor Gaitan! "No! He of the toupee?" yells Alirio.
Back at the garage Juan refuses to open the door for Paula, thereby irritating her highness. She gets in the front seat and tells him he's the typical infantile macho. He fooled her, she thought he was special and different from all the other men she'd ever known. He tries to look unphased but clearly her words affect him. She stomps off and Juan proudly tells Fer and Kike that Paula begged him not to go, she's nada without him, wah wah wah, but he was firm. He sounds brave but he turns around and his face looks like the mask of tragedy.
Paula complains to Marely of Juan's behavior. "What, he should throw you a fiesta?" asks Mari sarcastically. Oddly, Paula proceeds with a soliloquy of Juan's virtues as she dreamily gazes out the window. Mari eyes Paula suspiciously.
Juan tells Kike the truth about him and Paula. She even bought her own car. Kike says he has problems too...Yadi is pregnant. Juan is bug-eyed impactado.
Yadi decides to confront Nidia during her bubble bath. She has one or two little things to tell her mama. She went to visit Kike but before that she visited the doctor...to remove all doubt. "Mama I'm pregnant," she tells a stunned Nidia who slowly sinks below the bubbles.
Juan asks Kike if he intends to turn a blind eye toward Yadi. "No sir!" insists Kike. He would never abandon his children. He's always wanted to be a papa, not of one but of many little feet. He adds, however, that he won't lie to himself; Yadi will never change.
Kike asks Juan if he intends to make a play for Mari now that Paula has dumped him. Juan thought-bubbles that his heart is not ready. Suddenly he perks up. He has an idea...
Nidia rages against Yadi's tragic news. Yadi tells her mama not to overreact. So what, Yadi's life will change, she already knows all that. Nidia says she's not talking about Yadi, she's talking about what Yadi has done to her, she's turned her into a grandma! "No puede ser," Nidia wails as she weeps into her bubbles.
Juan makes a mysterious phone call and tells Kike he has a plan to win Paula back. Music will touch her soul. He's going to serenade her, but it won't be just any serenade. It will be very special. Kike looks doubtful. "Whaddya think?" asks Juan as he holds up a CD of Pablo Montero. (Que the hell???)
Alirio calls Pastor and tells him he has a delicate subject to discuss, but not over the phone. Can Pastor come down and talk about this business that will be of great interest to him? Pastor reluctantly agrees. He gets into the elevator, Paula follows, and CL butts in after her.
CL and Paula silently and angrily enter the garage and get into their respective vehicles. Juan's happy that for the moment there appears to be nothing between them, thus allowing him to rest his mind.
Alirio tells Pastor that for a considerable amount of time someone has been skimming money from the business. Pastor asks who is behind this bad business? He asks if Alirio is accusing him. Alirio says not just he, but also ex-VP Gomez...according to Gomez the one who was complicit in this bad business was none other than Pastor Gaitan.
As he drops her off, Juan not-so-subtly asks Paula if she intends to go out that night. Luckily she is so dense, clueless and self-absorbed that she responds she's tired and plans to stay in all night. She's not at all suspicious of his obvious behavior.
CL asks Fer if Paula is having problems with Juan. When Fer answers affirmatively CL says "Too bad, they made a good couple." He gives Fer some friendly advice about women. However, judging by Fer's expression he considers CL to be a complete wanker.
Juan discusses the symptoms of love with Kike. They enter a swanky hotel. It's night and they are trying to look ultra cool by wearing sunglasses.
Juan approaches the desk clerk and, with an affected accent, licks his cigar tells the clerk that Emilio Estefan is asking for Pablo Montero. "Emilio Estefan?" exclaims the clerk, "how's Gloria?" Juan says he has to leave for Miami in a few minutes so could the clerk please hurry? The clerk naively reveals that Pablo is in room 1514. Kike is stunned that Juan fooled the clerk, but what does Juan plan to say to Pablo?
A cranky hotel employee tells the excited clerk that neither of those two guys was Emilio Estefan. She calls security.
Juan and Kike sneak down the hotel's hallways. They see security and run. After a few seconds of slapstick running and chasing they miraculously find themselves in Pablo's room with some cute chick. (She's not acting so I assume she's Pablo's real life squeeze who has somehow finagled her way into a telenovela. And who can blame her? I'd work the same angle.) Pablo, accompanied by heroic music (oh brother!), enters, Duelo hat and all. He asks them who in the heck they are.
Juan tries to fast talk his way into Pablo's good graces. He says this little deception is all for love. Pablo will forgive Juan, won't he, and listen to Juan's plight? Pablo is the only person on earth who can help Juan win back the love of his life. The pretty girl listen compassionately.
Suddenly the security goons rush in and point their guns at our heroes. "Up with your hands!" they yell to a stunned Juan and Kike.
Tomorrow: Juan and Kike, accompanied by Pablo and a huge Mariachi band, sing to Paula.
We've done this one before but it's worth repeating:
hacer la vista gorda = to turn a blind eye (lit. to make the fat eye)
*H. L. Mencken
And now, on with the show...
Paula tells Marely that she has decided (again) to buy herself a car. She found the perfect opportunity to stop the madness and she broke up with Juan. Mari asks if that's what all the yelling was about in Paula's office, and what was this "perfect opportunity"? Paula admits that Fernando peeked at her making out like a skanky ho with CL. (OK, those were my words, not hers.) "Bravo!" accuses Mari sarcastically,"but don't leave Juan without a job." Paula observes that as long as Gaitan works for Farell Industries Juan's job is secure.
CL summons Pastor to his office and tries to suck up to him with a glass of whiskey. CL is not at all subtle and immediately enquires how it went between Pastor and Monica. Pastor smugly leers at CL because he knows he has the upper hand...for now.
Ivonne tells Marely that she got rid of Paula's car catalogues, thereby forcing Mari to "run" across the office holding down her skirt that keeps hiking up. What in the heck was this scene for?
CL toasts Gaitan as his right hand man. Pastor reveals that Ivonne told him CL was planning to fire him. CL nervously lights his cigarette and Pastor tells him that he didn't rat him out to Moni, but that CL had better be careful. CL drains his whiskey in one gulp.
Moni tells her maid Chelo that CL and Paula have a mutual attraction and she predicts things will go very badly for them.
Pastor tells Ivonne he's on top of the world and he wishes he'd had a camera to take a picture of CL's face.
Alirio stops by to visit CL. He wants to discuss his future occupation at Farell Industries. CL ignores Alirio then yells at him. Alirio keeps pressing for a better job until an exasperated and self-involved CL loudly kicks Alirio out of his office for interrupting him with stupidities. Outside, Alirio pretends that he and CL are making a lunch date but everyone knows he's full of it. Ivonne claps her hands gleefully at Alirio's misfortune.
Fernando offers his hand to Juan; he wants to make up. Juan scolds Fer and tells him no more chisme about Paula. Speaking of the queen of Rome, Paula shows up and asks Juan to take her to the car dealership. Juan thought-bubbles that his heart is truly broken.
Ivonne observes Marely smiling happily and in deep thought. Mari is no doubt thinking that Juan is once again a single man and available for her sweet love.
After they arrive at the car dealership Juan slips into the back seat next to Paula and says they need to talk. Their relationship is the most important thing in his life and he's not going to stand with crossed arms while it falls apart. Paula tells him the relationship was troubled for days. Juan disagrees. She accuses him of not considering her feelings. (?!?) He says he'll change. He becomes tender and persuasive. Very persuasive. I'd be buttah but Paula runs away, the stoopid cow.
Yadi shows up at the garage looking for Kike. She and Fer have uncomfortable words with each other.
While Paula car shops Juan silently berates himself for misinterpreting the situation all along.
Alirio calls Nidia and complains that he's being treated like a dog at the market. Nidia, in a bubble bath sprinkled with rose petals, accuses him of exaggerating and playing the victim. Ali says he plans to present his resignation. Nidia tells him fine but she'll not allow him to get lazy...leave the job and she'll put him to work cleaning the house.
Yadi finds Kike and tells him they need to talk privately. She acts very sure of herself even though Kike tells her to leave him alone. She has news...she's pregnant! He's gonna be a papa!!
On the way back to work Paula chatters happily about her new car, then she calls Juan infantile for not sharing her enthusiasm. Oh how I loathe her.
Kike nervously accuses Yadi of kidding, how did this happen? She starts to tell him about the birds and the bees. She shakes her finger at him and says she didn't do it alone. She hands him the lab results as proof; he's the first to know. When asked about Nidia Yadi answers that she has an idea, why not get married before telling Nidia the news?
Kike accuses Yadi of doing "it" on purpose to catch him. She says maybe only a little. (News flash Kike, there is birth control for men too.) Yadi tells him he's treating her badly and she flounces out waving her lab results over her head. "Whazzup Kike?" asks Fer, "problemas??"
Gomez the embezzling ex-VP visits Alirio in his office of dusty papers. Alirio wants a percentage of what Gomez skimmed from the company. Gomez announces that he will reveal who the other fat fish is. His accomplice is...Pastor Gaitan! "No! He of the toupee?" yells Alirio.
Back at the garage Juan refuses to open the door for Paula, thereby irritating her highness. She gets in the front seat and tells him he's the typical infantile macho. He fooled her, she thought he was special and different from all the other men she'd ever known. He tries to look unphased but clearly her words affect him. She stomps off and Juan proudly tells Fer and Kike that Paula begged him not to go, she's nada without him, wah wah wah, but he was firm. He sounds brave but he turns around and his face looks like the mask of tragedy.
Paula complains to Marely of Juan's behavior. "What, he should throw you a fiesta?" asks Mari sarcastically. Oddly, Paula proceeds with a soliloquy of Juan's virtues as she dreamily gazes out the window. Mari eyes Paula suspiciously.
Juan tells Kike the truth about him and Paula. She even bought her own car. Kike says he has problems too...Yadi is pregnant. Juan is bug-eyed impactado.
Yadi decides to confront Nidia during her bubble bath. She has one or two little things to tell her mama. She went to visit Kike but before that she visited the doctor...to remove all doubt. "Mama I'm pregnant," she tells a stunned Nidia who slowly sinks below the bubbles.
Juan asks Kike if he intends to turn a blind eye toward Yadi. "No sir!" insists Kike. He would never abandon his children. He's always wanted to be a papa, not of one but of many little feet. He adds, however, that he won't lie to himself; Yadi will never change.
Kike asks Juan if he intends to make a play for Mari now that Paula has dumped him. Juan thought-bubbles that his heart is not ready. Suddenly he perks up. He has an idea...
Nidia rages against Yadi's tragic news. Yadi tells her mama not to overreact. So what, Yadi's life will change, she already knows all that. Nidia says she's not talking about Yadi, she's talking about what Yadi has done to her, she's turned her into a grandma! "No puede ser," Nidia wails as she weeps into her bubbles.
Juan makes a mysterious phone call and tells Kike he has a plan to win Paula back. Music will touch her soul. He's going to serenade her, but it won't be just any serenade. It will be very special. Kike looks doubtful. "Whaddya think?" asks Juan as he holds up a CD of Pablo Montero. (Que the hell???)
Alirio calls Pastor and tells him he has a delicate subject to discuss, but not over the phone. Can Pastor come down and talk about this business that will be of great interest to him? Pastor reluctantly agrees. He gets into the elevator, Paula follows, and CL butts in after her.
CL and Paula silently and angrily enter the garage and get into their respective vehicles. Juan's happy that for the moment there appears to be nothing between them, thus allowing him to rest his mind.
Alirio tells Pastor that for a considerable amount of time someone has been skimming money from the business. Pastor asks who is behind this bad business? He asks if Alirio is accusing him. Alirio says not just he, but also ex-VP Gomez...according to Gomez the one who was complicit in this bad business was none other than Pastor Gaitan.
As he drops her off, Juan not-so-subtly asks Paula if she intends to go out that night. Luckily she is so dense, clueless and self-absorbed that she responds she's tired and plans to stay in all night. She's not at all suspicious of his obvious behavior.
CL asks Fer if Paula is having problems with Juan. When Fer answers affirmatively CL says "Too bad, they made a good couple." He gives Fer some friendly advice about women. However, judging by Fer's expression he considers CL to be a complete wanker.
Juan discusses the symptoms of love with Kike. They enter a swanky hotel. It's night and they are trying to look ultra cool by wearing sunglasses.
Juan approaches the desk clerk and, with an affected accent, licks his cigar tells the clerk that Emilio Estefan is asking for Pablo Montero. "Emilio Estefan?" exclaims the clerk, "how's Gloria?" Juan says he has to leave for Miami in a few minutes so could the clerk please hurry? The clerk naively reveals that Pablo is in room 1514. Kike is stunned that Juan fooled the clerk, but what does Juan plan to say to Pablo?
A cranky hotel employee tells the excited clerk that neither of those two guys was Emilio Estefan. She calls security.
Juan and Kike sneak down the hotel's hallways. They see security and run. After a few seconds of slapstick running and chasing they miraculously find themselves in Pablo's room with some cute chick. (She's not acting so I assume she's Pablo's real life squeeze who has somehow finagled her way into a telenovela. And who can blame her? I'd work the same angle.) Pablo, accompanied by heroic music (oh brother!), enters, Duelo hat and all. He asks them who in the heck they are.
Juan tries to fast talk his way into Pablo's good graces. He says this little deception is all for love. Pablo will forgive Juan, won't he, and listen to Juan's plight? Pablo is the only person on earth who can help Juan win back the love of his life. The pretty girl listen compassionately.
Suddenly the security goons rush in and point their guns at our heroes. "Up with your hands!" they yell to a stunned Juan and Kike.
Tomorrow: Juan and Kike, accompanied by Pablo and a huge Mariachi band, sing to Paula.
We've done this one before but it's worth repeating:
hacer la vista gorda = to turn a blind eye (lit. to make the fat eye)
*H. L. Mencken
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Yes, Sylvia...Paula was completely loathsome last night. Breaking an unwanted suitor's heart and then yelling at him for his hurt reaction was so over the top! Plus I love how she never wants to take responsibility for her part in the affair...blaming it all on Cesar Luis, who granted is a creep, but as Marely pointd out, Paula KNEW he was married when she started it. I also find her loathsome for being so eager to inform (and hurt deeply) Monica, who is the true innocent in all this, now that Paula has nothing she wants to protect in the affair. This character gives a whole new range to the term "egocentric". Bleaccch, double bleaccch.
Thanks for the "vista gorda"...I must have missed that one the first time around.
Judy B.
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Yes, Sylvia...Paula was completely loathsome last night. Breaking an unwanted suitor's heart and then yelling at him for his hurt reaction was so over the top! Plus I love how she never wants to take responsibility for her part in the affair...blaming it all on Cesar Luis, who granted is a creep, but as Marely pointd out, Paula KNEW he was married when she started it. I also find her loathsome for being so eager to inform (and hurt deeply) Monica, who is the true innocent in all this, now that Paula has nothing she wants to protect in the affair. This character gives a whole new range to the term "egocentric". Bleaccch, double bleaccch.
Thanks for the "vista gorda"...I must have missed that one the first time around.
Judy B.
Permalink posted by 
: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 at 7:46:00 AM EDT
: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 at 7:46:00 AM EDT
Thanks! did you notice how Emiliooo could show us, even in one brief moment, what a lousy actor he is!!??
Paula, such a disaster. Run, Juan.
Paula, such a disaster. Run, Juan.
I was lucky enough to tune in at the end just in time to see,,,que the hell???,,,,Emilioooo. What a great surprise. I noticed that his expression was pretty much the same ONE [UNO ...1] that he always had in ''Duelo.'' I also caught a few minutes of him on Don Fernando Presents...guess what...same expression. I need me some....PIRATES pronto. ***Susanlynn, adrift
Permalink posted by : Wednesday, October 17, 2007 at 9:35:00 AM EDT
: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 at 9:35:00 AM EDT
Margaret, I deleted your comment because it violated our no-nasty-gossip-about actors' private lives rule. About what we see on screen in the shows, anything goes!
Ok, so Yadi's pregnant...just like that? Out of the blue? But she didn't have one of those required fainting episodes did she? Did I miss it?
Did she even fret about it to herself before she outed it to Kike and the rest of us?
Ok, I'll admit when I was in Mexico this was one of the tidbits that I discovered and I wondered how they would work it in, but they didn't even work it, it just is! Are we to believe it's from that one time she seduced him in her room? That wasn't even that long ago was it?
I admit I've missed portions of episodes in the last several weeks and many recaps because I've been so busy with stuff, but was there any indication up to this point that she even suspected this? Ahhh...to walk into the room and see that ocurring on the screen for me was like... huh? Even though I knew it was coming!!
Man, what about Paula? For a protagonista, she's uncharacteristically definitely the most experienced (usually they are the virgins until married types, right (well Lety deviated only a little) you'd think she would have been the one with child by now. I guess because she is an executive she uses protection that they don't show us. :)
Thanks Sylvia for standing in!!
Did she even fret about it to herself before she outed it to Kike and the rest of us?
Ok, I'll admit when I was in Mexico this was one of the tidbits that I discovered and I wondered how they would work it in, but they didn't even work it, it just is! Are we to believe it's from that one time she seduced him in her room? That wasn't even that long ago was it?
I admit I've missed portions of episodes in the last several weeks and many recaps because I've been so busy with stuff, but was there any indication up to this point that she even suspected this? Ahhh...to walk into the room and see that ocurring on the screen for me was like... huh? Even though I knew it was coming!!
Man, what about Paula? For a protagonista, she's uncharacteristically definitely the most experienced (usually they are the virgins until married types, right (well Lety deviated only a little) you'd think she would have been the one with child by now. I guess because she is an executive she uses protection that they don't show us. :)
Thanks Sylvia for standing in!!
Sylvia, Thanks for a masterful recap. I did manage to watch the show which I now have time for only 3 times a week so really depend on these recaps. Lucky me I got to be present for the announcement of impending abuela-hood! And TN angelitos must be inside my tv set because on the very same day I got to see Nidia (Sylvia Pasquel in real life) impactada with the news of Yadi's pregnancy, I had seen in the very same afternoon watching the rerun of El Manantial that Sylvia Pasquel as Pilar, hears that her daughter Barbara is preggers (played by Karyme Lozano of Azul in Amar Sin Limites fame). Wow and she played the impactada look almost exactly the same except she was in curlers in El Mant. instead of in the bathtub with a towel on her head. Twice the doomed Abuela, growing up is hard to do, no?
About above, I didn't know we had a no nasty gossip about private lives rule...I throw stuff in about actors here and there too, so I was wondering what might be considered "nasty" -like if the actor cheated on his wife or something? Why do we have this rule exactly?
Thanks in advance.
Thanks in advance.
Permalink posted by : Wednesday, October 17, 2007 at 3:11:00 PM EDT
: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 at 3:11:00 PM EDT
Oops. Sorry, Mel. Forgot. Univision is teasing the hell out of TN actors' misfortunes lately. And I generally ff through the commercials!
On Juan Q--I watch this show intermittently and I still can't figure out how they are going to put Paula and Juan together permanently. Juan is going to have to grow up (and become middle class) and Paula is going to have learn a little humility. Right now they would seem to be the match made in hell.
On Juan Q--I watch this show intermittently and I still can't figure out how they are going to put Paula and Juan together permanently. Juan is going to have to grow up (and become middle class) and Paula is going to have learn a little humility. Right now they would seem to be the match made in hell.
Because it's Melinama's blog and we are just guests here. For the record, although I just violated it, I think it's a good rule. If people want to gossip there's always the Univision boards which are overrun with it. That's one of the reasons I stopped reading there, because I wanted more comment on plot and less of the external stuff.
The Pablo Montero appearance in Juan Querendon is kind of an interesting juxtoposition--he's not a character, he's a real person. If they made an oblique reference to a real piece of news about him (probably not anything bad, since they would be trying to promote him, not slag him) I would assume that that would be fair for comment since some of us would get the references and some wouldn't. I didn't watch Fea but I heard that they had a lot of these kinds of real actor/personalities' appearances in it.
The Pablo Montero appearance in Juan Querendon is kind of an interesting juxtoposition--he's not a character, he's a real person. If they made an oblique reference to a real piece of news about him (probably not anything bad, since they would be trying to promote him, not slag him) I would assume that that would be fair for comment since some of us would get the references and some wouldn't. I didn't watch Fea but I heard that they had a lot of these kinds of real actor/personalities' appearances in it.
Hi Anon,
The reasoning behind the no-nasty rule was this: the actors have a right to their private lives, we respect that, and Caray Caray is truly a telenovela translation blog as opposed to a gossip blog. That being said, the one area where we allow ourselves leeway is the area of plastic surgery. Why? Firstly, usually the PS is so in-your-face-obvious that it is impossible not to comment on it. It is the gigantic pink elephant in the room. Secondly, we assume that no normal person would have the massive amounts of botox and silicone injections that some of our beloved telenovela actors get, hence we assume they do it for their jobs, hence no longer private. Anyway, these are the guidelines and we do our best to adhere to them so we do not become just another gossip blog, of which there are many.
Carmel, I'm glad you enjoyed the quote. It was my homage to Amanda, especially since I can't do the speedy posts like she does!
The reasoning behind the no-nasty rule was this: the actors have a right to their private lives, we respect that, and Caray Caray is truly a telenovela translation blog as opposed to a gossip blog. That being said, the one area where we allow ourselves leeway is the area of plastic surgery. Why? Firstly, usually the PS is so in-your-face-obvious that it is impossible not to comment on it. It is the gigantic pink elephant in the room. Secondly, we assume that no normal person would have the massive amounts of botox and silicone injections that some of our beloved telenovela actors get, hence we assume they do it for their jobs, hence no longer private. Anyway, these are the guidelines and we do our best to adhere to them so we do not become just another gossip blog, of which there are many.
Carmel, I'm glad you enjoyed the quote. It was my homage to Amanda, especially since I can't do the speedy posts like she does!
Permalink posted by : Wednesday, October 17, 2007 at 5:53:00 PM EDT
: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 at 5:53:00 PM EDT
Hi,
The main reason this is a no-nasty-gossip site is that I consider gossip about REAL LIFE to be spoilers - i.e. it spoils my enjoyment of a novela if somebody is telling me that in "real life" the galan is a drunk or cheats on his wife or starves his dog or whatever. Also, chismes in the public sector are often false or trumped-up so why repeat them here?
I think anything which is evident or visible ON SCREEN is fair game. That is why comments on lousy acting and lousy plastic surgery are fair. We don't know for sure Pilar, for instance, had plastic surgery -maybe she was born rigid unable to close her eyes - it would be off-limits to write "I read in a gossip magazine (or the Wall Street Journal, whatever) that Martha Roth spends $125,000 a year on facelifts," but it would not be off-limits to write, "it looks like Martha Roth spends $125,000 on facelift." We can speculate to our hearts' content. That's the caray caray guideline.
The main reason this is a no-nasty-gossip site is that I consider gossip about REAL LIFE to be spoilers - i.e. it spoils my enjoyment of a novela if somebody is telling me that in "real life" the galan is a drunk or cheats on his wife or starves his dog or whatever. Also, chismes in the public sector are often false or trumped-up so why repeat them here?
I think anything which is evident or visible ON SCREEN is fair game. That is why comments on lousy acting and lousy plastic surgery are fair. We don't know for sure Pilar, for instance, had plastic surgery -maybe she was born rigid unable to close her eyes - it would be off-limits to write "I read in a gossip magazine (or the Wall Street Journal, whatever) that Martha Roth spends $125,000 a year on facelifts," but it would not be off-limits to write, "it looks like Martha Roth spends $125,000 on facelift." We can speculate to our hearts' content. That's the caray caray guideline.
Sylvia, thanks for this terrific recap! I am out of state and couldn’t see it. I’m getting my day started with chuckles, gracias a tí!
“Paula admits that Fernando peeked at her making out like a skanky ho with CL. (OK, those were my words, not hers.) " ROTFL! We were ALL thinking it.
“Ali says he plans to present his resignation. Nidia tells him fine but she'll not allow him to get lazy...leave the job and she'll put him to work cleaning the house.” This is guaranteed to keep hubby at work. Mine was “retired,” and when it became clear that he was going to be the one to clean the 4K square foot house, after about two months, he decided he’d interpret more to pay for cleaning ladies. ;-) Not my decision for him to work, nor did I order him to clean in the first place, but nevertheless--the goal is accomplished. Besides, he was going nuts at home. Nidia is going to go nuts if Alirio’s home, though, rather than the reverse….
“He becomes tender and persuasive. Very persuasive. I'd be buttah but Paula runs away, the stoopid cow.” LOL! Yes, she is a stoopid cow. I’d melt, too. Not Paula, she’s the ice queen most of the time.
Poor Kike. Everybody’s always pickin’ on him.
“Juan tells Kike the truth about him and Paula. She even bought her own car. Kike says he has problems too...Yadi is pregnant. Juan is bug-eyed impactado.” It’s only a matter of time before Paula is, too. Then what’s she gonna do? She’s gonna need extra lab work.
“Nidia says she's not talking about Yadi, she's talking about what Yadi has done to her, she's turned her into a grandma!” Here’s a classic Nidia response: it’s all about her. (Remind you of Emiliooooo?)
Speaking of the king of Rome, “"Whaddya think?" asks Juan as he holds up a CD of Pablo Montero. (Que the hell???)” Baaaad timing on that.
Isn’t it lovely watching CL squirm instead of smirk? Just kind of makes you feel all warm and fuzzy inside, right?
Jeanne
“Paula admits that Fernando peeked at her making out like a skanky ho with CL. (OK, those were my words, not hers.) " ROTFL! We were ALL thinking it.
“Ali says he plans to present his resignation. Nidia tells him fine but she'll not allow him to get lazy...leave the job and she'll put him to work cleaning the house.” This is guaranteed to keep hubby at work. Mine was “retired,” and when it became clear that he was going to be the one to clean the 4K square foot house, after about two months, he decided he’d interpret more to pay for cleaning ladies. ;-) Not my decision for him to work, nor did I order him to clean in the first place, but nevertheless--the goal is accomplished. Besides, he was going nuts at home. Nidia is going to go nuts if Alirio’s home, though, rather than the reverse….
“He becomes tender and persuasive. Very persuasive. I'd be buttah but Paula runs away, the stoopid cow.” LOL! Yes, she is a stoopid cow. I’d melt, too. Not Paula, she’s the ice queen most of the time.
Poor Kike. Everybody’s always pickin’ on him.
“Juan tells Kike the truth about him and Paula. She even bought her own car. Kike says he has problems too...Yadi is pregnant. Juan is bug-eyed impactado.” It’s only a matter of time before Paula is, too. Then what’s she gonna do? She’s gonna need extra lab work.
“Nidia says she's not talking about Yadi, she's talking about what Yadi has done to her, she's turned her into a grandma!” Here’s a classic Nidia response: it’s all about her. (Remind you of Emiliooooo?)
Speaking of the king of Rome, “"Whaddya think?" asks Juan as he holds up a CD of Pablo Montero. (Que the hell???)” Baaaad timing on that.
Isn’t it lovely watching CL squirm instead of smirk? Just kind of makes you feel all warm and fuzzy inside, right?
Jeanne
I deleted my earlier comment, Melinama, because I realized I might have violated the no gossip rule, too, though slightly. So, rather than take a chance, I deleted the questionable part and reposted the rest.
Jeanne
Jeanne
I think I understand. Thanks for the explanations everyone!
Permalink posted by : Wednesday, October 17, 2007 at 8:03:00 PM EDT
: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 at 8:03:00 PM EDT
Melinama, thanks for clarifying.
Permalink posted by : Wednesday, October 17, 2007 at 10:38:00 PM EDT
: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 at 10:38:00 PM EDT
Thanks for explaining the gossip rule. I didn't know it existed, either, but will try to keep it in mind. (It would be easy to slip up on this one when there are big stories in the press like some right now.)
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