Saturday, November 17, 2007

La Fea Más Bella #57-60 Missing Recaps 39-42, by Kim P.

Waaaaah! This is it - the very last batch of LFMB recaps. Kim P. put a LOT of time into these 42 recaps that close the gap between Chris's recaps and mine, but now they are done, and there are no more.

But remember, you can still go back and read ALL of the recaps again and again. You can also join in the conversation at Telenovela-World.

Missing Recap 39: Paradise lost
Alicia gets the bad news from Lopez again and calls Celso again. Fernando gives his speech and introduces Ricky again and Saimon tells Fern about the cuartel again. Fernando pretends his bladder's full again and leaves. Alicia and Marcia talk more and Alicia begs Marcia not to let the cuartel in.

Saimon goes down and tells the cuartel he did manage to get hold of Fernando, but that Marcia heard him and isn't happy. Fernando comes down and they all start talking at once. He shuts them up and lets them all in (BIG mistake buddy!). They all sneak backstage and again they all talk at once and again he shuts them all up. Marta asks for Omar and Fernando leaves. Lety gives his back her patented dreamy look and Lola has to drag her off. Paco and the two kidlets show up and he just happens to know the doorman, so they get in as well.

Fernando goes and sits back down and Marcia asks about the cuartel, and gives him hell when he tells her he let them in. Humberto asks them to be quiet, so Omar calls Fern on the phone again to see if he let Lety in, which of course he did. Marcia tells Alicia that the cuartel managed to worm their way into the event. Isabella comes out and introduces the commercial as the cuartel sneak (very obviously) behind the screen. The commercial plays and everyone claps when it's over.

Paco and kids running around, I don't care. The cuartel spot Omar but can't get to him. Alicia tries to leave to find the cuartel and Marcia tells her to not cause a scandal there at the show.

The dancers come out and Lola freaks when she sees that Jazmin's one of them. The rest of the cuartel try to calm her down as Paco is at another part of the stage taking pictures. Lola continues to freak and Jazmin sees her, but then Lety drags her off, as Saimon dances in the background. Lety leaves to call her 'rents so PM and Lola go back to do more damage because, let's face it, Lola's revenge is far more important than the success of the company they both work at and depend on for their paychecks.

At Casa Padilla, the oldsters are wondering where Lety is when the phone call comes in. Pop tells her he wants her home in an hour and hands the phone to Tomas. She wants him to talk to her dad for her and he agrees.

The dancing is still going on (Bob Fosse and Twila Tharp had nothing to fear from this choreographer) and Paco is still taking pictures. Lola and PM have somehow found the items necessary to make signs and begin to flash them at Jazmin - one says Zorra (vixen) and the other says Quita Maridos (literally "acquittal husbands" per Bablefish, take it however you like). (Julie says: Google Translate says "husband remover" and we used to just say "homewrecker").Though Jaz gets mad when she sees them, it doesn't make her mess up her steps. Jaimito sees his mom across the stage and starts to yell out to her but Marta's daughter, in an incredibly rare moment of intelligence, tells him it's not a good idea. Instead he picks up one of Paco's plastic film containers and tries to throw it to his mom to get her attention (oh yeah, that's a much better idea... NOT). Naturally, instead it hits Jazmin right in the head. She falls to the floor, tripping all the other dancers as well. Luigi has a heart attack while Paco and the monsters run off. Saimon and the choreographer get up on stage and start dancing, trying to pass the whole thing off as an intentional part of the show while Luigi cries and Fernando covers his face (told you, you shouldn't have let them in buddy). The audience all laugh so Fernando also acts like it was all planned and goes up and hugs the choreographer and Saimon.

Irma is feeding Luigi a whole lotta valerian when Jaz comes up crying. She tries to explain what happened but Luigi just tells Irma to get her out of his sight. The cuartel all laugh and I'm thinking how so NOT funny that was, but what do I know? Once again the little brats don't get punished for destroying everything and everyone just thinks they're adorable.

Back at the Padilla fortress, mom and Tomas are sharing a friendly little moment. Robopop the good time destroyer tells them he's going to get Lety, and Tomas decides to come along.

Back at Bella Life, PM is still talking to the brats and I can't take it and fast forward as fast as I can press my finger to that little button. Meanwhile, everyone's congratulating Luigi and he gets up and gives a nice speech. Omar tells Fern that was a good recovery from Jazmin's disaster, then they talk about Lety and Tomas some more because that topic just never gets old. Humberto comes up and congratulates the two of them on the success of the evening and Marcia gives them an evil face.

Backstage Jazmin is explaining to Luigi that what happened was Lola's fault, but Irma's sticking up for her friend and denies everything (ooh, Irma, you're gonna burn in hell for lying). Luigi sides with Irma and tells Jaz to stick a fork in herself, she's DONE!

The cuartel are trying to get Omar's attention but he's flirting with Isabella and doesn't see them. Lola's gloating about ruining Jazmin, as always not caring what it might have done to the company. Alicia pulls Marta aside and demands that she give her the results of her pregnancy test, and also demands that the cuartel keep their mouths shut about it. Marta wants to tell Omar and starts to head toward Omar to show it to him, but Alicia tells her she'll have her fired for getting into her confidential paperwork and showing it around. Marta continues and Alicia starts to call Marcia over to tattle, and they start arguing. Meanwhile, we see Ariel talking to someone setting up Alicia's apartment in Miami.

The cuartel should have kept their mouths shut, they could have been rid of Alicia forever. Oh well, hindsight... Omar walks by and asks Sara why they're there. The cuartel discuss what to do and Alicia tells him they have some CONFIDENTIAL information from the office. He asks if there's a problem and they decide they don't want to get in trouble, so they deny any problems. Carolina comes up and takes Omar away and more crap flies between the cuartel and Alicia. Eventually they give her the test results.

The Bella Life people are telling the Conceptos people how happy they are. Fernando and Omar leave and Omar teases him about Lety.

Alicia goes into the bathroom and cries over the loss of the comfortable life she was going to have thanks to Ariel. She tosses the test results on the floor and stomps on them. She tells herself goodbye apartment in Miami, goodbye wedding to Omar, cusses out the cuartel, and prepares to go talk to the two men.

Speaking of cussing out the cuartel, Marcia's giving them thorough reamings for interrupting the show. Lety tries to explain but Marcia doesn't want to hear it and tells her she's SO VERY overstepping her bounds as Fernando's assistant. Fernando comes up and makes things worse by telling her she needs to respect Conceptos' secretaries. Before she can blow like Vesuvius Alicia comes up and drags her away. The cuartel all thank Fernando and he tells Lety that he needs to talk to her.

Alicia shows the test results to Marcia and pretends to be happy about it. Marcia asks her about the earlier positive test and Alicia tells her it must have been wrong. Marcia tells her she's glad she's not pregnant and she needs to tell Omar. Marcia leaves and Alicia again starts cussing out the brujas.

Caro comes up and congratulates Omar but he's in a bad mood. He tells her what Alicia told him about marriage or Miami. Just then Alicia comes up and says she needs to speak to him and they leave. She tells him she's not pregnant and he's comically relieved.

Fernando tells Lety it's ok that she intruded and she's integral to the company and a bunch of other crap. Caro comes and takes him away and she gives his back another Tan Divino. The cuartel talk amongst themselves and I'm so beyond caring it's unreal. Lety continues to worry about Marcia.

Omar's very happy and wants to know about the first test. As with Marcia, she tells him it must have been wrong. She starts flirting with him, wanting to pick up where they left off and telling him she loves him. Omar, however, is thinking Oh Hell to the NO and he can't get away fast enough. He tells her he doesn't want to ruin her chance to go to Miami, it's a good opportunity for her. She moves in for a kiss but he just kisses her forehead and leaves. Fernando's talking to prospective clients and Omar comes up and tells him he's not going to be a papa. Fernando's happy for him.

Alicia now goes to talk to Ariel. He thinks she's there to ask for more money but instead she shows him the test results. He's pretty sure she did it all on purpose and yells and treats her terribly, as always, and keeps the test results. She tells him she'd still like to go to Miami (is she that clueless?) and he tells her he still expects her to quit Conceptos, as a punishment I guess, but he's the one who needs a vacation.

Fernando and Omar are still talking about Alicia, not seeing her standing behind them. She hears his relief, and hears him say how glad he is he can now say goodbye to her. She's very sad.

The Robomobile pulls up in front of Bella Life and Tomas gets out. He goes to the door and sees the dancers all milling around there. He starts talking into his cell phone like some bigwig honcho, trying to impress them, but they aren't impressed and look disgusted. He's talking finance, dropping big dollar amounts, hoping they'll come around. As he reaches for some of his cards to hand out to them, they make their escapes. He goes in and tells the doorman he doesn't have an invitation but he's there with Lety. The guy isn't impressed so Tomas hands him one of his F.I. cards and brags that he's important to Conceptos and is Lety's NOVIO.



Missing Recap 40: In which everyone forgot their chill pillOnce again Omar's glad he's not a papa, and Fernando's glad with him. Ariel is mean to Alicia again and, god figuring she hasn't had enough crap heaped on her yet, she again overhears how joyful Omar is to be rid of her. The Robomobile pulls up again, Tomas tanks with the models again, and tries to impress the doorman again with who he knows and is dating. The doorman's not impressed and won't let him in, but says he'll go get Lety when he gets the chance. Tomas sits on the steps to wait.

The cuartel all attack the food and chat about stuff I don't care about. Marcia comes up and pretends to be nice while still giving them hell so they decide to leave. They discuss getting a taxi, and Lety tells them Tomas is coming for her.

Jazmin runs by, crying, and Saimon is calling after her. Lola sees her and does her usual garbage and Sara convinces everyone it's time to leave. Saimon tells Jaz she was good (she wasn't, she was way too cheesecakey in her movements). She cusses at Lola, Saimon calms her down, and she thanks him for believing in her. They almost kiss but Irma hits him on the head and orders Jaz to leave as Luigi asked. Saimon offers to give her a ride home and she accepts.

Omar's flirting with a woman and Alicia sees him and calls him desgraciado under her breath. Marcia comes up and complains to her about Lety.

Saimon is still flattering Jazmin while she calls Flaquito and the cuartel discuss the situation. Jazmin tells Cheque she'll be late and Saimon's excited as they decide where to go. Lola's still freaking (someone please shoot me and put me out of my misery here, I can't take much more). Lety tells the cuartel she needs to speak to Fernando and tells them goodnight. Tomas spots Jazmin and starts to stalk her even though she's right there with Saimon. PM sees them leaving and makes a jealous scene and Saimon goes off to talk to her. They're gone a while so Jaz goes to look for him and sees him getting lovey with PM. She calls to him, so does PM, and he's torn between the two (thank god that horrible song Torn Between Two Lovers didn't start playing or I'd have had to hurt someone). While the whole cuartel watches, he chooses PM over Jazmin.

Jaz walks away pissed and he follows, trying to explain, while Tomas watches the whole thing. He claims he doesn't want to cause her any problems with Cheque, but she just ignores him and gets on the phone. Lola really wants to tell Efren about Saimon and Jaz, but PM doesn't want her to, worried that Efren will kick Jazmin out and she'll wind up with Saimon. Jazmin continues to ignore Saimon and gives him back his raincoat. He goes on over to PM and the cuartel all decide to leave, with Saimon and PM dancing out. They have to pass by Jaz and Lola once again freaks, they all give her crap, and I hate them more than ever. Tomas then moves in for the kill but she's not impressed by his phony phone crap either and ignores him. Erasmo comes up asking where Lety is and, seeing that Tomas isn't doing what he was supposed to do, reminds him to hurry up and go get her, but when Robo leaves Tomas just goes back to trying to impress Jaz. Meanwhile the doorman's as sick of Tomas as Jazmin is and finally decides to go get Lety so Tomas will leave. He tells a bouncer to watch him and leaves to find Lety.

Saimon and PM are at a bar dancing and all of a sudden PM gets pissed about something. I swear I think this bimbo is manic/depressive or something! She hits a depressive down spiral and gives him crap about Jazmin but before I can press the fast forward button, Ms. Thing hits her manic high and decides to give Saimon a kiss, and they leave.

Fernando's parents tell him they're leaving for London in the morning and won't be back to Mexico until the wedding. Humberto tells Fern he's happy with how things have turned out. They start to leave, but Teresita wants Fern and Marcia to reconcile before they go (everyone could tell they've been fighting all night). They pretend to kiss and make up and Ariel tries to start something but Marcia puts him down. Everyone leaves except Fernando and Omar. Lety waives at Fernando and he calls her over to talk. She thanks him again for letting the cuartel in and the doorman comes up and tells her that her boyfriend Tomas, the manager of Filmo Imagen, is there for her and hands her the card Tomas gave him. Fern and Omar are very unhappily impactados, and Fern takes the card from her. She laughs and tries to make it a joke that Tomas called himself her boyfriend. Fern tells Lety how nice Tomas' card is, and you can tell there's a whole lotta hidden meaning in his tone.

Lety goes down and gives Tomas hell for calling himself her boyfriend and telling the doorman about Filmo Imagen. He explains why he had to do it and she warns him that Fern's pissed at him for mentioning the secret company that no one's supposed to know about. He tries to laugh it off but she's pissed too. Pop pulls up in the Robomobile and they leave.

Fern and Omar continue to discuss Lety and Tomas. Omar reminds Fern that the embargo is perfectly legal, but Fern's still worried. Omar then once again states that their only option is for Fernando to seduce Lety to take her away from Tomas. Fern tells him he's not sure he can, he doesn't have any experience in seducing ugly women. He's fixating on her mustache. Omar tells him if Tomas hadn't appeared he could have sworn Lety was in love with Fern. They continue to discuss, worried about Tomas.

Lety gets home and pop is giving her hell for being late. She's whining (literally) that it was work. He lays down the law, all that fancy stuff isn't for her. She argues. Mom talks to dad and tells him to go to bed, then she tells Lety she'll talk to him and calm him down.

Marcia and Fernando get to Marcia's and she's complaining the whole time, giving him hell about Lety. He tells her Lety's important to the company, just as important as Marcia. Not smart, Fernie boy, now she's really full-on pissed. They continue to fight with Fern telling Marcia that a beautiful and intelligent woman like herself shouldn't see someone like Lety as a rival. He's also drinking like a fish during this whole exchange. Finally he's tired of it and threatens to leave, and Marcia stops him and gets all mushy. She tells him she still loves him and wants him to stay, giving him kisses and caresses.

Lety's writing in her diary about Fernando and the trouble Tomas caused. While she talks we see that Fernando still can't sleep. He remembers Omar saying he has to make Lety love him, and what he said about Tomas maybe influencing her. Lety falls asleep and we get a montage of different times Lety had with Fern, both good and bad. This segues into a dream where she's with Fernando on a couch while Omar stands behind them looking happy. Alicia, Marcia and Ariel are outside a window peeking in. A little girl comes in looking like Lety and calls them mom and dad, and Fern thanks god for his good life and beautiful woman. Then it's Erasmo and Julieta on the couch with Tomas looking happily on, and a little boy in a suit and slicked-back hair ala Fernando comes in and asks where his mom is. Lety jumps up from behind the couch and says "here". The boy runs to her and they hug while Tomas cries with happiness.

Meanwhile Fern's also asleep and dreaming. He and Lety are on a couch with his parents standing behind chanting "beso, beso". Omar's outside holding a sign that says something along the lines of I didn't tell you to marry her (Di NO al matrimonio). Lety puckers up hideously and Fern tries to get away. He screams, waking both himself and Marcia. He tells her he had a horrible nightmare, then they both go back to sleep.

Next day Julieta tries to wake Lety up, but she just whines that she was having a good dream and wants 5 more minutes. Mom eventually gets her up. Meanwhile, over at Marcia's crib, she and Fern are rehashing about how they made up and are happy now and how things went well with the commercial and etc.



Missing Recap 41: The one where two guapos fight over LetyFernando's remembering Omar's words again and still can't sleep. Lety dreams again and Fernando nightmares again. Mom wakes her up, he and Marcia talk, and we're all caught up. Fernando leaves.

At work, Lola's on the phone when Lety comes in. They discuss how PM's late and so is Saimon. Marcia and Fernando come in so they cover for PM. While he and Marcia get on the elevator, Fern can't stop looking at Lety (in a horrified way). He's imitating her pursed lips. Once they're in the lobby, Fernando points out that Alicia's late again and Marcia tries to cover for her. She mentions that Alicia may not be going to Miami after all. They discuss and Marcia leaves.

Still in reception, Lety and Lola are trying to find PM. Alicia comes in just then, and PM and Saimon arrive together as well. Alicia sniffs them and says they smell like the same soap. She points out that they're late and PM tells her it's none of her business. She replies that it's the company's business and PM tells her she's just bitter because she couldn't snag Omar. Jaz comes in and overhears the conversation. Alicia leaves and Jaz comes up crying and says hi to Saimon, then leaves. PM's mom calls, all worried about her for not coming home.

Ariel calls Alicia and she tells him she's not going to quit, she needs the work. He still wants her to leave, but she says she can't. He continues to insist that she resign and she hangs up as Omar walks by. She calls him "amor" and he doesn't like it. He totally blows her off, and I don't mean sexually. He's practically hitting her over the head with how much he doesn't want to be around her but she's choosing to remain clueless, especially after what she overheard last night. He goes and hides in Fernando's office.

Lety tries to explain about Tomas, that he likes to feel important and that's why he had the cards made and talked about the company. I don't know, that sure wouldn't make me feel any better knowing he does that with a company that's supposed to be secret. However Fern just tells her "ok". She leaves to get Saimon and Omar and Fern talk about it more, Fern telling Omar he's the one who should seduce Lety because he's the Great Seducer, doesn't have any mercy, and has no commitments. Fern points out that he's Lety's boss and that could cause even more problems. Omar points out that Lety already likes Fernando more than Omar, so Fern's the one who should do it. Fern tries to disagree, but Omar says he can prove it, they'll both ask Lety for a favor and see how she reacts to each one. Lety comes back and Omar asks her for some information. She goes to her office and brings it to him gracelessly. Fern then asks for some info and she flirts with him, smiling and cheerful when she goes to get the info for him. Omar says see the difference? Fern did see it and is not at all happy.

Marcia asks Alicia if she still plans on quitting and Alicia says no, why, do you want me to? Marcia tells her no.

Lety brings the info to Fernando and asks if he wants anything else. He says no and she leaves and Omar teases him. Fern says he doesn't think Lety will allow herself to be seduced by him because he's engaged to Marcia and Lety is a woman of principles. Omar scoffs and says Lety will be more than happy to give in to someone handsome like Fernando. Marcia comes in and starts talking about Luigi and the storyboards for the next few commercials. Omar asks for a meeting and Marcia agrees and leaves to get ready. Fern calls Lety in and tells her there'll be a meeting in five minutes.

Alicia is typing a resignation letter, putting in all the dirt about Ariel. Meanwhile, in the conference room, Omar and Fernando are still talking about Lety. Fern says he can't possibly romance Lety with Marcia right there and Omar reminds him that he does it all the time with women like Fatima. Fern continues to say no and they continue to discuss at length but it's just the same ol' same ol'. Lety comes in and smiles grotesquely at Fernando and he asides to Omar that he just can't do it. Marcia comes in and smiles and he says "yes". Lety smiles at him again and he says "no".

Ariel calls Alicia and asks if she's resigned yet and she tells him she just finished typing up her letter. He tells her to take it to Lopez right away and she tells him she's sending copies to Fernando and Marcia and Teresita and Humberto...He wants to know why so many copies and she tells him she wants to explain to everyone. He tells her she doesn't need to explain, just leave. She starts to read him the letter, but Saimon dances in and interrupts her. He dances off again and Alicia continues.

During the meeting, Fern is really nervous and keeps looking at Lety the way some people look at gory accidents, they don't want to but can't help it. Meanwhile, Alicia is just getting to the good part of her letter when Saimon dances by again. She boots him out and keeps reading to Ariel. Fern's still looking at Lety and walks behind her and bends down and sniffs her hair. Lety's very confused.

In her letter, Alicia states that Ariel sexually blackmailed her because she broke Lety's computer at his direction, and that she's been spying on Fernando and the company in order to buy his silence. He tells her not to send the letter out and is pissed that she actually got one up on him. She asks him if he thought she was really so stupid as to resign from the company and not come clean? She then hangs up on him. He immediately calls back and tells her she doesn't have to quit and she hangs up on him again, happy.

Back at Lety's house, Tomas is working when the lawyer Sanchez calls. He wants to have dinner with them to discuss the embargo and Tomas isn't happy about it. Meanwhile everyone's in the meeting discussing the upcoming commercials, Lety talks budget, and Marcia goes to leave to talk to Luigi. Fernando ostentatiously kisses her and calls her guapa. She leaves and Lety tells Fernando she needs to talk to him. They go into his office and discuss money and F.I. and banks. She then goes to her office and Tomas calls to tell her about having dinner with the lawyer, while Fern and Omar listen in. She hangs up and goes out and tells Fernando what's going on. Omar leaves and Fernando's giving her weird looks and she's wondering why. She starts to think hey... maybe... and she gets a hopeful look, but then she thinks no, that's impossible! But maybe...

Fernando follows Omar out and tells him again that he can't do it, and Omar continues to push him, telling him he should start that night with trying to win her over. Then they start discussing Alicia and whether or not she's still going to quit.

Speaking of, Alicia's in Marcia's office telling her she's not going to Miami after all. They discuss it a bit, then she tries to bring up her bills. Marcia tries to get rid of her, but instead Alicia whips the bills out and tries to show them to her. Fernando and Omar come in and Fern wants to know why she's not in Miami. She gives him some excuse and he and Omar just laugh at her. She tries to love up to Omar but he trades places with Fernando, who immediately trades places back. Omar says they have to go talk to Luigi, and Marcia leaves with them. Outside Marcia's office Fern and Omar make fun of Alicia, then turn to see her standing right there behind them. They get guilty looks and leave.

Speaking of looks, Lety's sitting in her office giving dreamy ones. Juana and Sara come in to get her for lunch, and Juana tells her she can tell Lety's tense by her aura. Juana whips out the shells and offers to read them again at lunch. Irma shows up ready for lunch as well and Lola complains that she can't afford to go. Marta tells them she's not hungry and they question her about it, and she tells them it's just mind over matter. They're impressed and offer to join her in her fast, but she tells them it's not necessary. Marta agrees to go with them but says to go ahead, she'll catch up, she has to make a call first. She says goodbye to taquitos, enchiladas, etc. The others leave, congratulating her on her willpower. As soon as they leave, though, Marta whips a crapload of food out of her desk and starts pigging out.

Downstairs the cuartel tells PM about Marta's excellent willpower. She eventually joins them, as does Saimon, and they all chat.



Missing Recap 42: Prelude to a kiss
Omar and Fernando embarrass Alicia again. Lety's dreamy again and Juana goes native reading her aura again and says it's about a galan. Marta lies about food again and Saimon flirts with the cuartel again. He's hugging Lety as he talks and you know he's just so happy that he finally got together with PM, then they all leave.

At a bar, Fernando's drinking a LOT of whiskey because he can't accept the idea that he has to seduce Lety. He complains why didn't he hire a pretty secretary, and they continue to rehash. Omar tells Fern maybe Lety will look pretty after a couple of drinks so Fern asks him to pretend to be Lety so he can practice. Omar pretends to be her and Fern flirts with him as other patrons watch, amused. Fern tells him never mind, it didn't help and continues to freak out at the thought of what he has to do. Clients join them but Fern just keeps drinking.

The cuartel are at lunch talking and I skip a lot of it. Mostly they're teasing PM about Saimon, who's at another table and sends a drink over to her. PM tells them that though Saimon is good looking, he's only a friend because he's poor. The cuartel tell her she shouldn't be playing with his feelings like that. Next Juana tells Lety she's preoccupied with thought of love and offers to read her shells.

Back to Fernando, he's not paying any attention to the meeting with the clients, he's still freaking about Lety.

Back to Lety, she says Fernando's name in her mind as she rolls the shells. Juana again mentions a galan and Lety asks if he likes her. Juana tells her she sees Lety with a lot of money and a handsome man and a bunch of other stuff and Lety remembers back to Fernando punching out her bad date and dancing with her. It's weird because she's remembering it like it actually happened but it was actually one of her fantasies. The cuartel bring her back to the real world and discuss it further.

Fernando and Omar get back to work and see that all the secretaries are still gone except Alicia. She tells them she didn't have any money to go out and they tease her. Luigi comes in looking for Irma and Fern and Omar stare at his cowboy-inspired outfit (it really is outlandish, even for Luigi, though no dead animals appear to be involved except maybe some leather). They discuss the commercials as the cuartel finally decide to show up and Luigi takes Irma away. Fernando yells at Lety for being late and she apologizes. Omar asks Sara to get Ricky Armstrong on the phone for him, while Marta tells Fern they're late because Juana read the shells again and saw Lety's future with Tomas Mora, and told Lety her dream would come true, and that she saw Lety "in the middle of great wealth".

Fern goes in and tells Omar what he just learned, and once again they work themselves into a paranoid lather over it. They go into the conference room so they can talk without Lety hearing, and become convinced that she's going to keep Conceptos for herself. Omar insists that Fernando has to take her out tonight and if necessary, to keep drinking until he's able to do it. Fern tells him he can't take her anywhere he usually goes because everyone knows Marcia and it will cause a scandal, so Omar gives him the name of a place to go. Lety pops in long enough to make a comment, then leaves again and Fernando, after looking at her again, is more upset than ever.

Alicia is working (wow!) and Marcia asks her about Fernando, and Alicia tells her he's in the conference room with Lety. Marcia goes in and chats with him, and they discuss that they can't make payroll because Bella Life hasn't paid them yet while a payment to the bank is due. She asks if he's coming over tonight and Fern tells her he can't because he has something he has to do. She says ok, kisses him, and leaves. Fern keeps saying "no" while Omar keeps saying "yes". He looks Lety over again and she asks if she can leave early to meet with Tomas and the lawyer. Fern asks her to cancel the meeting because he needs to meet with her to discuss ways to come up with payroll. She leaves and Fernando watches her go while chanting "I can't, I can't, I can't" and continues to drink.

Julieta calls Tomas and Erasmo down to eat. Lety calls and tells mom she has to work late on some projections, and mom describes to her what food she made. Lety talks to Tomas and asks him to meet with the lawyers without her and what to discuss with them and how delicate this stage is, then she hangs up. Pop finally comes downstairs and asks about Lety. Mom tells him she's going to be working late and Pop goes into his usual rant.

Lety goes back into the conference room and tells Fernando that Tomas will meet with the lawyers and she's free to stay with him. He's still drinking heavily and she leaves. He goes on about how much influence Tomas has over Lety while Omar encourages him to take her out. Fern cries.

Marcia stops by Alicia's desk and Alicia hits her up for some buckage. At first Marcia says no, but then gives in and digs in her wallet. She starts to pull out a couple of bills but Alicia reaches over and grabs the whole wad from her, then actually has the nerve to ask Marcia to buy her dinner. Whew, no wonder Marcia wasn't treating her so nicely in later episodes!

PM gets a phone call from someone as Alicia and Marcia come downstairs. She wishes them good night, then keeps talking into the phone after they leave, and you can tell she's setting up a date with someone. Saimon comes in and they start chatting, then she asks him to take an envelope upstairs for her. As he does so, she sneaks out. The cuartel are talking in the lobby while Marta eats forbidden food in the bathroom. Sara yells at her to hurry up, so she hides it all. Saimon dances off the elevator and gives Lola the letter PM gave him, saying she should get it because it's addressed to her ex-boss Olarte. They all chat and Saimon seems to think he's going to be with PM. Marta finally comes out, they chat more, and get on the elevator. Downstairs, he sees that PM's not at her desk. He calls out her name, but she doesn't answer and the cuartel tell him she must be gone. He says that's not possible but they point out that her purse isn't there. He's mondo sad and they feel sorry for him, then leave.

Lety's trying to get Fernando to stop drinking while Omar is encouraging it. They're discussing the commercials and finances as she keeps taking the bottle away but he and Omar keeping managing to get it back. Omar tells them they've all been working very hard and deserve a rest and they should all three go out for dinner and drinks. They discuss where they're going to go while Lety goes to her office to get her purse. Fern tells Omar he's had enough to drink, and Omar asks him if Lety looks pretty to him yet. Fern replies that he'll have to be passing out drunk before he'll see Lety as pretty. She walks back in and tells them she's ready to go. As she stands by the door with a particularly ugly look on her face Omar and Fernando stand there just looking at her, then Omar again encourages Fernando and they leave.

They go to a bar, and Lety's very nervous. A waiter comes for their order and there's chat but the music is REALLY loud so it's hard to hear. Omar flirts with a woman while they discuss work. The waiter comes back and he's very rude. Lety leaves to call her p-units while Fern is getting drunker. It's not helping and he tries to leave but Omar pulls him back. The crowd jokingly chant "beso, beso" because it does look like they're having a lover's quarrel. Omar gets him to sit and tries to get him to imagine beautiful women, but that's not helping either.

Lety's on the phone to her 'rents and pop tells her he can hear that she's not at Conceptos. She tells him she's at a restaurant with Fernando and Omar but they're still working. Pop wants to come get her but she tells him Fernando will drive her home. He insists that she be home in one hour and she whines at him. Mom sticks up for her and he finally agrees.

She goes back to the table to find that Omar has moved, so she now has to sit between the two of them. Me, I wouldn't mind so much 'cause you know I loves my F/O sandwiches, but she doesn't look so happy. Fernando cries while Omar stands up and tells them he has to leave, he has another appointment he forgot about. They both try to stop him from leaving but he manages to escape while Fern makes a total ass of himself. The DJ comes up and calls them lovers and both are impactado.

End of missing recaps, we now return you to your regularly scheduled programming. It's been fun!

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Comments:
Kim P. - one day I'll read 'em all when I get the video, and bless you for doing them! (Julie, thanks for posting)

Jeanne
 

did u all see the telenovelas awards? Jaime & Angelica arrived together. They were even matching! I can't believe that Jaime didn't win... what were people thinking. He did look like he had a good time, dancing to the music.

Esther
 

Great work, Kim! Good detail.

These are episodes 57 through 60, July 11 - 17.

Carrie, remember Fernando's black shirt? Have I got a photo for you! Got your heart medication handy? You're gonna' need it. http://www.univision.com/content/content.jhtml?cid=1305131 . I think it's when he was with Fatima.

Hey Julie, do you think Caray, Caray! would consider changing the Don Fernando photo on the blog, to that one?

Julie, thank you again for posting the forum discussion link on this page. I'm posting some articles over there: Jaime's new novela (http://www.univision.com/content/content.jhtml?chid=6&schid=0&secid=1784&cid=1352408) and a Univision article comparing him to Valentino (http://www.univision.com/content/content.jhtml?cid=1305131). I'm also going to start a thread about last night's awards - que raro!
 

Thank you, thank you Paula!

Can anyone explain what happened at the awards show when Rosy handed Jaime the statue? She gave it to him but I didn't understand why.

I couldn't believe he didn't win!!!!!!!!

Carrie L.
 

I'll suggest the photo to Melinama, but I can't guarantee anything. The thing is that Don Fernando never (that I can recall) had curly hair on the show, even though it was curly in lots of the publicity photos. Go figure.
 

no, please don't change the photo. dont get me wrong, the other one is nice too, but that one that's already up is the Don Fernando that we all know & love,
 

Re: photo. I stand corrected. Fernando had mussed hair a few times in bed with Marcia. And he did wear that marvelous black shirt when he entertained Fatima in his office. That's why I thought the photo was from that episode (#33 & 34). Although he & Fatima got pretty steamy, they never got to the mussed hair stage of intamacy (at the office). So you're right, that photo must be a publicity shot. On the show he never had mussed hair at work.

You make a good point. The slicked hair is the Don Fernando we all know and love. (Didn't he say he was born with a necktie and hair gel?) The current photo should stand. But you must admit, regarding the black-shirt photo, que un vista tan hermosa (what a beautiful view)!
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Re: the award. According to an article on Univision:
Dia Más Bello, pero Camil tuvo su Noche Triste
http://www.univision.com/content/content.jhtml?cid=1289856
Snip: Lalo Yanez, who won best actor, was speechless (that he had won and not Jaime). Finally he came out with, "this award is for you Jaime." Rossy OCampo, accepting the award for Best Novela, said "This award is for you (Jaime)." After passing the statuette to him, she insisted that Camil, not she herself, speak on behalf of the winning show. Jaime - who will be called "the most beautiful loser" because of how beautifully he responded - thanked Yanez for his words.
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In my (Paula's) opinion:
When Fea won Best Novela, that honor was rightfully OCampo's. When she passed the statue to Jaime, she seemed to be saying that the success of the show was thanks to Jaime, not her. And when she insisted that he give the acceptance speech, not her, she was giving him his moment of glory he was deprived of, since he didn't get the award he deserved.

Or maybe I'm just feeling melodramatic since I watched too many episodes on DVD this week. I'm in the diary episodes. If that doesn't make you melodramatic, you have no heart!
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And as for the Best Actor award, I started a thread on the Fea forum, http://foro.telenovela-world.com/n4/read-t.php?f=406&i=13020&t=13015#reply_13020
I laid out my case for why the selection made no sense. If anyone can give a reasonable explanation, I'd love to hear it.
 

I agree that the show's success was because of Angelica and Jaime. Angelica made a heroic effort with some terrible material for those last few months, not to mention injuries, illness, etc. And Jaime truly "sold" Don Fernando's transformation.

For many weeks, the maturation of Fernando (in contrast to Lety's apparent devolution) was the only thing that made watching worthwhile. Meanwhile, there was all this Aldo stuff going on, which was sheer torture, and I'm sorry to say that that was 100% Ocampo. If she had stuck with Gaitan's original story, or found a way to deal with the extension that didn't require Lety to become a sniveling, spiteful moron, everything would have been fine.

So I'd have to say that whatever success the show had during the Aldo months was despite Ocampo, not because of her. I feel awful saying that, because it seems that perhaps she knew it too. I'm very glad (and impressed) that she let Jaime have his moment in the spotlight.
 

Gee, I felt sorry for him and was SO disappointed that he didn't win. He was very gracious and charming and handled it all very well.

I felt the others were sort of embarrassed at the choice that had been made.

How in the world could they NOT have chosen him???????? In my mind he was the star of La Fea. Angelica would not have been as likable or the show as riveting without Don Fernando!!
In my mind he was truly the best actor on the show.

I think Jose Jose was up at the same time as Luigi? I believe I was surprised then too that Luigi with his over the top performance wasn't chosen.

I know my Don Fernando prejudice is showing but the character just melts my heart!

Carrie L.
 

You're not being prejudice Carrie. Its just that we all loved the show so much & this award show was a way for the fans to show their appreciation to the actors of la fea. If I had known about the fact that the people get to decide who wins, I would have voted for Jaime & I am sure that all the other Don Fernando fans, would have voted for him as well.

Esther
 

Are you still reading here Marie Celeste? I just wanted to let you know I watched 7 Dias last night and loved it! The story was good and Jaime was great! Thanks!
Kim P.
 

Thanks so much Kim for all the time and effort put into these!

I started going back through some of the few DVD's of La Fea I had recorded. Although I am completely lost at times with the Spanish, I was able to remember some of the interpretations from this blog and fill in some of the blanks.

Even so, I loved see Don Fernando and Lety again. I had gotten really tired of the Aldo character, of Alicia, and of the cuartel when the show was on. At least when it's recorded I can skip over them.

I'm anxious for Pasion to start but doubt if it can take the place of La Fea in my heart.

Happy Thanksgiving everyone,
Carrie L.
 

did anyone watch the alejandro fernandez special on friday? if so, does anyone know the name of the first song he sang?
 

I taped it, but I missed the first few minutes. I came in while the lady was interviewing him. Did the show open with the song, or was it after the first interview?

His dad's voice knocked me off my feet! Granted, he didn't sing much, but he's still got "it," even at his age. I wish that he would've sung more. Not that I minded hearing Alejandro. No, I didn't mind that a bit. He's my favorite.
 

Thanks for responding Paula. It was the song after the first interview.

Esther
 

Netflix now how has the new LFMB series --or will have it shortly, as well as Jaime's film.
 

Regarding the Fea DVDs, can anyone confirm? Are they actually available from Netflix NOW, or soon (e.g. the Feb. release date)?
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The Alejandro Fernandez song is Canta Corazón. It's from the Corazon Abierto CD, which I have on my wish list.
http://www.univision.com/uv/music/10707741/Alejandro_Fernández/cd

I have his Viento a Favor CD, and I just love it, so I went to the music store and listened to cuts from his other releases. Corazon Abierto is almost as good as Viento a Favor: still Pop, but with more Ranchero influence than his recent CD.
 

Paula, when I went on Net Flix it looked like they have 3 La Fea disc's available now.
They noted that it was a "very long wait". I didn't investigate any further.
I don't understand why they would be available there but not on Amazon.
I think I'll look into it a little more tomorrow when I can actually keep my eyes open! Tonight I'm exhausted!!!!!!!!
Carrie L.
 

Thank you, Carrie. I look forward to hearing what you find out. This whole thing is strange - a week before the release date, they push the date back by three months? And Amazon is the only one with a delayed date? It don't make no sense!
 

Hi Paula, I talked to customer service tonight at Netflix and they are unsure whether they actually have the discs or if it is a website error.
They list 3 discs but different availability dates for each one. I'm not betting they actually have them.
The first disc is listed as "very long wait" which supposedly means up to 30 days.
They representative said she is going to forward the question to their website engineers and see if they can clear it up. I'll check back in a couple of days and see how La Fea is being listed.
I guess my confidence is with Amazon. If they say it's not available until February then I'm guessing their information is more accurate.

Carrie L.
 

Did anyone know Jaime is going to be in a new show in 2008? It's called "Las Estupidas No Van al Cielo".
 

Can anyone translate the name of the new show?
Do you know when next year it is suppose to be on?

Thanks!
 

Hi Anonymous, Babelfish translates the title as "The Stupid Can't Enter Heaven".
 

I was excited to hear that we would all get to see Jaime again on tv, but I also kind of feel sad because he won't be acting with Angelica. I at least hope that there will be a comedic side to this show because that's what made Jaime even more attractive. I know he's a good actor, but he & Angelica had such a great chemistry together that translated off the tv screen. Will he have that same pasion with the female lead of this telenovela? I don't know girls... what do y'all think?
 

I agree, there was something very special about the chemistry between Jaime and Angelica. I have seen him in other things and didn't like him as much as his Fernando character on La Fea.
I've watched a little of Fernando Colunga on Pasion and although he is really nice to look at, I don't care for the other characters on the show.
I'm hopeful for Jaime's new show but I'm still missing La Fea!
Merry Christmas everyone,
Carrie L.
 

Part two to the question from anonymous on 12/16... Jaime Camil's website says his new show will start airing in Mexico in February 2008. No mention of when (or if) it will be picked up in the US.

Since the new show is also by Rosy Ocampo, I just hope she won't get us hooked and then feed us a hugely (enormously, unbelievably, incredibly) crappy ending like we got with La Fea! Guess we'll just have to wait and see. Did you get the feeling of just how much I HATED how that show ended??? ;o)

I agree with Carrie, Fernando Colunga is some serious eye candy, but the show is sure lacking what the title keeps promising, Pasion! So far it's just one huge cry-fest! Boy do I miss La Fea!!

Hope you all have a wonderful Christmas and New Year (or whatever holidays you celebrate at this time of year).
 

re: Chemistry? I'll withhold judgement until I see it. Did Jaime have the male lead in anything before Fea? I wonder whether that was his first role that let him run with his abilities. Or for that matter, maybe he became a better actor because the role called the best out of him. No... even in the early episodes, we saw his 1,001 faces, and his intensity.

Re: Colunga. I have a confession. Is it heresy to say I'm disappointed? After months of "appreciating" his photo, I watched a few episodes of Pasion, and he just comes off flat. Wooden. No zip. Still makes a great poster, but his acting ... maybe I'm just spoiled by Camil's expressiveness. I swear, the man can make six distinct faces in three seconds! And you can read a page of thoughts and emotions in each one of the six!

I suspect the new show will have some comedy. Fea was such a cash cow, and with Rosy using Camil again, she'd be nuts to not repeat one of Fea's other strengths.

Now if you'll excuse me, my DVD player is calling me. I just watched Fea episode 284 yesterday, "The Kiss," and I'm in the final roller coaster ride of the series. "Betty La Fea" complete series is under my Christmas tree, so maybe that will become my next obsession.
 

Kim P. - Thank you very much for the missing recaps! You 've done a great job. Why are you so disappointed with the fea ending? Is it because of the angel/aldo thing (which was really stupid), or something else?

I totally understand that we all cannot compare lfmb with the "pasion" but if you have free time, you can just read the recaps which are great and very vivid - this is what I do!

Paula H - I am so jealous of you! I would like to watch "Betty, la fea"!

Happy Holidays!

Sophia
 

Paula H. I'm so glad you said what I have been wanting to say but was afraid too. I too admired Colugna's picture & I thought that maybe I could really get into Pasion, but it ended up being a let down. You are absolutely right about Jaime's expressions. He doesn't even need to say anything... his expressions say it all.
 

Yeah, he's so good, his face is so expressive, I think he could say, "In 1997, a blizzard in Cleveland collapsed the roof of an electronics superstore, injuring 12 shoppers," all without opening his mouth!
 

I'm really glad that so many other people are enjoying Pasion, and I do like reading all their comments.
BUT, try as hard as I can I just don't like the show. FC is absolutely gorgeous, especially with his shorter hair. I don't think he gets the chance to really show his acting abilities. I liked him so much better in Alborada.
To be fair, that was before Don Fernando in La Fea. Once I saw the many faces of Jaime I was spoiled.
To me there was just no one like his character.
I'm glad to find out I'm not the only one who feels that way!!!
Enjoy all your La Fea's Paula! I'm afraid I'm going to have to break down and get the complete set one day. In the meantime I'll wait for Amazon and the shortened version.
Happy New Year everyone,

Carrie L.
 

Hi Sophia. The Aldo/Angel thing was just one of many things I hated about the end. To start, let me mention that this is my opinion only. People seem to take it personally when you insult something they loved, so for all you who loved the ending, please remember this is only my take on it. I'm happy (and jealous) that you got more out of it because I really wanted to since I loved the show so much.

My first beef is that Lety never grew into the person she was supposed to. She did when she got back from Acapulco, but then when they had to extend the show they had her regress into even more of a wishy-washy, whiny mess than when she started, and she never recovered. Despite everyone thanking her in the end, she actually did absolutely nothing to save Conceptos, in fact she made things worse. The actual saving was done first by Aldo by selling everything he owned, then by Fernando by creating the new show to pay Aldo off. Even her ending up with Fern wasn't by her own chosing, but by Aldo deciding for her. I felt that the promise made to us viewers that she would grow as a person was stolen from us.

Secondly, the beauty thing. Supposedly the whole premise of the show was "inner beauty", yet in the end Lety winds up beautiful outside. Luigi supposedly learns to accept her, yet he didn't really because in the end he had to change her (claiming it was just to make her outside as beautiful as her inside was just a crappy cop-out excuse). God knows in tv land we can't have someone as gorgeous as Ferny end up with a hideous fea, so even though he loves her as she is, she still has to be made beautiful so the audience can accept it. It just totally dissed the entire "inner beauty" premise for me, they should have left her as she was and had everyone decide they liked her anyway.

Thirdly, that last show! I wanted to see Lety and Fernando get together, not Angelica and Jaime parade through the streets. I did not like the blending of fantasy and reality and feel I was cheated out of the final scenes we should have gotten. I loved the concert, but it should have been a separate special, not part of the ending, again the blending of fantasy and reality, and only giving us occasional shots of the scenes most of us had waited the entire show for, the two main characters getting together.

And lastly, yes, the Aldo/Angel thing. That was one of the worst cop-out crap endings I've ever seen.

So, hope you aren't sorry you asked, but I am glad to get it off my chest. No one I know in my non-computer world watched the show so I had no one to vent to in real life. Again, this is only my opinion. I still loved the show up to a certain point, and loved Jaime/Fernando all the way through and I'm glad I got to watch his character grow into a better human being.

Anyway, hope you all had a wonderful Christmas, and hope you all have a wonderful and safe and prosperous New Year!

Kim P.
 

Hi Kim P. - I am not sorry at all that I asked you. Actually I am glad you gave me some food for thought! I think that everyone has the right to have his opinion so I don 't think that someone is going to take it personally : )

I agree with you. Lety never really grew. She was always an egocentric child in the body of a woman for which I blame her parents.

As far as the beauty is concerned, you are right but unfortunately we live in a world where beauty matters. Sometimes much more than the character.

I was really annoyed by the fact that Aldo pushed her to decide. I think that she should cancel the wedding but not in the last show. Plus everything was so abrupt. We watch Aldo being controllable (I hope this word exists!)and jealous and the next minute he wants Lety with Fern.

The Aldo/Angel thing was totally stupid. Angels are not jealous, competitives, do not make out with people or wear hot pants.

Thanks for sending your opinion!

I wish you all have a happy new year.

Sophia fron Greece
 

Carrie – te urge! Save up; get the disks! So much enjoyment for less than a buck an hour! Every day I look forward to my escape from reality for an hour or two. Especially with the writers’ strike, it’s the best thing on TV. You can FF thru the cuartel, rewind/repeat the good parts, even slo-mo to catch Fernando’s rapid-fire face changes.

I’m starting to worry. The first croissant I ever tasted was in Paris, and I thought they all tasted like that. They don’t. Since then, I’ve never tasted one as good. Likewise, Fea was my first novela. Will future novelas be like all the disappointing croissants after the first one?

Kim, well-stated on your complaints. Well-supported points.

Two recent observations about Aurora:
1. Her name. It sounds just like “ahora.” It’s how Lety is behaving, especially toward Fernando, “right now” during the time Aurora exists – intensely desired by men, but cold, distant, heartless. It’s how Lety is “ahora.”
2. Right after The Kiss, when she’s in Fern’s dressing room, and he does the experiment with her eye. When he’s convinced Aurora’s Lety, he uses “usted” (which he calls Lety) and she follows suit. In fact, when he tries to explain himself, he says something like, “I kissed tu, but it wasn’t usted. Well… it was usted, but it wasn’t tu.” Then when she returns from her phone call with Aldo, he has apparently rejected the idea, because he addresses Aurora as tu again.

I watched about 20 minutes of Betty La Fea (the Columbian original, from te-novelasrus) yesterday, just to get a taste of it. The sound and video quality is pretty disappointing. That’ll take some getting used to. The acting is SO MUCH more understated. But LFMB tends to be overacted, so that makes sense. It might be harder to figure out with my limited Spanish, because I won’t have as many visual cues.
 

Hi everyone. I haven't posted anything in a while. I just ordered my set of La Fea Mas Bella DVD's from Te-lenovelas.com. They are giving 10% off until Jan 1, 2008, so the total price is $162 instead of $180 & no shipping or handling fees.
I am still watching Amigas Y Rivals on Telefutura. It was done in 2001 but I enjoy it and Angelica Vale is in it. My Spanish has improved a great deal.
Another "old novela" comes on Telefutura as well. It is called 'Mujer de Madera" and it has Jaime Camil as well as the actor who played his father Humberto in LFMB. I think that one was made in 2004.
Well Happy New Year to everyone. And I can't wait to get my DVD's.
 

Lola I have been watching amigas y rivales & mujer de madera too. i like amigas because it's very comedic & Angelica Vale is great in it. The other show is alright, but I'm pretty much only watching it to see Jaime. The episode when he found out his mother was alive was heartbreaking. It's funny how his father in that show is the same guy in la fea. The scenes with him & his daughter are very sweet.

Esther
 

Lola, que bueno that you got the disks! Enjoy! As you can see from my posts, I'm loving mine. Please e-mail me if you don't mind; I have some resources I think you'll find useful. paulah88@hotmail.com
 

It 's so great that you can order DVDs with your favorite telenovelas! I would really like to order LFMB and Betty, la fea or Muneca Brava with Facundo Arana (I don 't know if you are familiar with telenovelas from Argentina which are truly great) but I think that the total price will be huge if they send me the DVDs here (Greece). Plus, I 've heard that the European dvd - players differ from the American ones so they cannot reproduce these dvds.

I also wanted to ask if anyone has seen "contra viento y marea" with Sebastian Rulli y Marlene Favela. Is it good?

Have a happy new year!

Sophia
 

Sophia, you asked, "has anyone seen "contra viento y marea"? Try asking on the Telenovela-World General Forum (http://foro.telenovela-world.com/n4/list.php?num=21). That board is fairly active, and visitors go all over the place.
 

Thank you Paula H and Julie for the infos!
 

I have watched just a few episodes of Mujer de Madera to see Jaime but didn't really get interested in it.
He is very cute with those eyes and kissable lips, but, on Mujer he is just not our Don Fernando!
Who would have thought I would still be missing La Fea so much after all this time?????
Hope everyone had a good holiday!

Carrie L.
 

Carrie! WOMAN! When y' gonna' break down and get the complete set??? You know you wanna. (Hear the siren call?) Besides, I'm just itching for someone to rehash with me over on the forum. I even have a few threads in mind, if anybody starts watching from the beginning! paulah88@hotmail.com
 

I just got my DVD's in the mail yesterday. I haven't started watching yet. I am so happy. I will probably start watching next weekend.
If anyone is watching "Amigas Y Rivales", tell me, what did Roxana do with the maid Juanita's body?
 

Las Estupidas No Van al Cielo will start in Febuary, 2008!
 

Lola, i think that the guy that's helping Roxana take revenge on everyone is the one who actually got rid of the maid's body. What i don't understand is how no one believes that Jimena didn't take any drugs. They all saw her at the club drinking & then making a comment about how the drink tasted weird. They all can't be that stupid, right?

Esther
 

Ha! Yea, you are so right Paula!
My problem is I understand so little Spanish that without the blog updates and without English captions I would be lost.
I'd have to find my way in locating the correct date of the recap to know everything that was going on.
Not impossible I guess?
I'll just have to order in the near future so I can stop whining about it!
Thanks,
Carrie L.
 

Esther, thanks. No one believes Jimena because of her past history and because the other girls left her in the bathroom alone for a few minutes. Do you think that Carlos & Angela will get back together? That Roxana is one evil B**ch!
 

Carrie, you're gonna' need a better excuse than that! My titles list includes broadcast dates, so it will be easy to find the matching blog entry. I can even post the URL for the first few Caray entries, if you'd like. And if a few of us are discussing the series together, we can help out when you get stuck on a language question.

I know that Lola just got her disks, and it sounds like La Fea is going to order soon. The time is ripe (hear those sirens???).

I just started a few new threads on the Fea forum, regarding the earliest episodes, so come over and visit.
 

Lola, I'm so glad that you're watching the show because now I have someone to talk to about it. I think that Carlos is going to push Angela away... eventually. I don't think he will get back together with her. Are you mad that they split Nayeli & Johnny up? I know that he's a jerk now, but I wish they didn't make his character change so much. I too can't stand Jimena. Hopefully she'll get whats coming to her.

Esther
 

Esther, I had high hopes for Johnny & Nayeli, but his fame has just gone to his head. He is being soooo rude and obnoxious.
I didn't quite understand what Roxana & Sebastian wanted that girl Georgiana to do with Ulises. Was it just to seduce him?
 

Lola, they want her to seduce him & break up him & Ophelia. A few episodes ago they showed Sebastian making a list of people to take revenge on. Jimena, Ophelia, Nayeli, Tamara... they're all on the list.

Esther
 

Ohmygosh! Lety and Alicia live the same story!!! I just realized it. As I pondered it, I saw more and more similarities. There are too many parallels to be accidental. Alicia's story mirrors the main plot. It starts in the very first episode, and her story is not resolved until the finale, just like Lety.

• She's weak and needy, and she can't grow out of that.
• Much of her personality problems were caused by her Papi.
• Everyone is strongly impacted by her appearance. Her appearance defines her identity, how she views herself. She believes it controls how everyone regards her. She is so determined maintain that belief, that she deliberately ignores all evidence to the contrary, no matter how strong the evidence.
• Someone loves her infinitely. He doesn't even notice her flaws, he loves her sacrificially. He'd do anything in the world for her.
• She doesn't appreciate the value of that infinite love.
• She accepts his marriage proposal but rejects him.
• Finally he gives up. He's tried everything, he realizes it's hopeless, and he leaves.
• Only when he leaves does she realize how much she loves him, how foolish she was to reject him, how much she wants to be his wife. But by then it's too late.
• But wait! Someone knows where that true love went, and knows where to find them! That someone brings him back to her.
• Her lost love finds her, crying for her stupidity and her loss, because she threw away the most valuable thing in the world - true love.
• She finally, finally returns his love. He's walking in the clouds, the happiest man on earth. They go off arm-in-arm to live happily ever after.

Where does this reunion happen? At the hotel room? Or at the cemetery? Both! Lety and Alicia live the same story.

One more thought: after he gave up and left, hopeless, who brought him back to her? Marta brought Fernando, and her husband Lobo brought back Tomy. It HAD to be Lobo, to complete the parallel.
 

Paula... I am amazed! It all seems so obvious now!

Esther
 

Is this a good price? Have they ever chopped up such a long telenovela before? When one runs for only 5 months the severe cutting doesn't seem as bad, but this one was on for over a year.
/mab

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Oh! You're right, Paula! How did you ever see that?
 

Anon 1/13, as I near the end of the DVDs, something’s been nagging at me. The fans are angry because Lety didn’t “cowboy up.” She stayed weak, and they think she should grow up and be a strong, confident woman by now. But what if she hasn’t got it in her? What if she was born weak, or if she was so damaged that she’ll never be strong? Is that heresy? Dare I suggest something so non-PC?

Well, I pondered, no one expects Alicia to cowboy up. Everyone expects her to remain damaged and needy, even though she has someone who loves her unconditionally, too. That’s when the lightening bolt hit me, and I started seeing all the other parallels between the two.
 

In the Finale at the wedding, who's the guy sitting next to Jacques? He looks like Tomy after a makeover to normalness. (Rooster-comb Tomy is in the scene as well, so it can't be him). The mystery man also goes on the car parade, so he's not an extra.
 

See an exceptional alternate ending at the old Todas Las Feas site (now called TelenovelasLatinas.com).

A very good writer wrote her own version of the ending. I loved it. It diverges from the familiar plot, seriously, from her Part 22 forward (be sure to continue on to page 2). I found her version more satisfying than the actual show.

Keep in mind, she started this before Fern left for NY, in the Mexican broadcast dates. So any similarities between her plot and the actual show's plot, after that point, are not because she copied the show.
 

Did anyone else see Jaime on EXTRA? He was talking about his movie 7 Dias. They showed a clip of him in la fea mas bella. He spoke in English too! Here is the link to the video: http://extraenespanol.warnerbros.com/

Esther
 

Thank you, Esther! I often wondered how his out-of-character English sounds. Good glimpse of it.
 

Esther, on Amigas Y Rivales, Sebastian looks kind of scared of Roxanna. He asked her how many people she had killed. He looked very nervous.
 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XnUiZ4hpaio
[[shows the 2 of them, as themselves, as vocalists together. Its a musical clip called Feliz]]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqDDQOQA3dw&feature=related
[[here they sing tu bellesa]]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Uh3U15Ess8&feature=related
[[my fav song from lfmb]]

there's plenty more lfmb music segments over at youtube; I guess you all know that but if there's anybody who doesn't out there... enjoy.

/mab
 

Thank you Ester! It was fun to see a clip of Jaime. He is the cutest!

Carrie L.
 

Sorry for misspelling your name Esther! It has been a very, very, long day!

Carrie L.
 

Lola, I think that it's finally occurred to Sebastian that Roxana has a screw loose. What is up with that guy that Tamara likes? He seems like an arrogant jerk. I felt bad for Johnny too. I hope Nayeli can get over Roberto & give Johnny another chance, even though he doesn't deserve it. And Carrie... don't worry about it... I'm glad you liked the clip. I've watched it several times just to hear Jaime talk.

Esther
 

Esther, now Johnny is doing cocaine. He's a jerk and doesn't deserve Nayeli. I don't trust that guy Luuis that Tamara likes. I didn't trust Abelardo either but now he seems okay and I think that he really cares for Andrea.
 

Lola, I know you're right, but I feel bad for Johnny. As for Alberado, I think he is going to cheat on Andrea with that other girl.
 

Oops, Lola... I forgot to leave my name.

Esther
 

Esther, now Roxanna wants to kill Angela. Angela knows all of Roxanna's secrets. Do you think that she will do it?
 

Lola, Roxana is crazy enough to do it, but I don't think she'll be able to get away with it. A lot of people will notice if Angela suddenly goes missing. I can't believe Ulysses. He keeps saying how much he loves his wife, but he's spent more time with the brunette than with his own wife. Oh, & did Jimena ever actually break up with the doctor? Was it because of the kiss with Angela?
 

Esther, Jimena told Carlos to choose between her or Angela. He chose Angela. Also, I thought that I heard Roxanna tell Angela that she killed Patricia,who was Jimena's Roxanna & Sebastian say to Georgina when they went to her apartment.
Yes, Ulises is a weak fool.
 

Sorry Esther. What I meant to say is, Patricia, who was Jimena's mother. What did Roxanna & Sebastian say to Georgina at her apartment?
 

Lola, they basically said that she now had to become friends with Nayelli, Jimena, Tamara... & so on.... so that she can continue their plan of revenge. If she doesn't do what they say, they'll kill her. Nayelli is on the top of their list. Things just started to be going well for Nayelli & now they are going to ruin it. I wonder what the surprise for Nayelli is... who could that new guy be?

Esther

Esther
 

I wondered if anyone had watched Mujer de Madera with Jaime Camil? I been trying to watch a little on and off and would like to know the general story line.
Thank you so much for any information!

Carrie L.
 

Esther, did Roxanna kill Roberto Sr's first wife?
As for Nayelli, maybe she will have a new man in her life. Won't Johnny be sooo jealous.
 

Carrie, I just recall someone saying it was one of the worst ever. Violent and ugly, horribly convoluted and uninteligible story line, and the female lead changed actress in the middle of the series.

Have you found that to be true?
 

Carrie, I have been watching it & this is what I know so far. Jaime plays Cesar, son of a politician. He thought his mother died, but she has really been in a coma for 15 years. He was engaged to Marissa(Edith), but she broke up with him when she found out he got some other girl pregnant. That girl ended up dying... I think she was killed by Marissa's Aunt, Pidath. Cesar ends up raising his daughter, who was in an accident & was temporarily paralyzed. The interaction between those two were great. Eventually, Cesar finds out his mother is alive & that his father kept this from him for 15 years. Marissa is obsessed with Cesar & will use anyone to get close to him. I stopped watching, but the last thing I saw was Pidath slipping Marissa medicine to make her think she's going crazy. Hope that helps a little!

Esther
 

Lola, I think she did kill the wife, but I'm not sure. How awkard for Nayelli. Everyone pretty much knows that she loves Roberto, but now the whole world will know too.

Esther
 

Esther, Did you see how Roberto was looking at Nayelli at the coctail party? She really did look beautiful.
I wonder if Georgina will tell Nayelli that Sebastian & Roxana are planning to kidnap her brother & sister.
 

Thank you everyone for the Mujer info!
I thought it was really strange how the lead (Edith G. I think) was trapped in a burning shack and a beam fell on her face.
She was horribly burned but after a few days she removed her plastic mask and was a new person! Amazing!
Absolutely no scars, younger and a few inches taller. I think they would have been far better off to simply make the switch and forget those dramatics.
I can't say it is any worse than most of the others. It has Jaime but not often enough.
I am not liking any of La Fea replacements. I tried Pasion and still turn it on now and then.
It sounds like the best must be on Telemundo but unfortunately I can't get the channel.
I'm going to get the chopped La Fea series when it's available on Amazon. After that I'll decide if I should invest in the complete series.

Carrie L.
 

Lola, I did see how Roberto was looking at Nayelli. It seems like he has feelings for her too, but for some reason he's fighting them. Was it just me or did it look like they were about to kiss, but then some woman called Nayelli away? I'm guessing it was Georgina who slipped that note under Nayelli's door.

Esther
 

Carrie, just two weeks until the condensed Fea is released (assuming they don't push it back again). But who's counting? Yes, I do have the R-us disks, but I'll get the condensed version, just to get the espresso hit of Fea.

Carrie, think we should ask Melinama to make a new blog entry when the DVD is released, so we can start with a clean slate? Think people will want to talk about it? I never turn down a chance to talk Fea.

I'm enjoying Pasion. But if I miss a night, it's not the end of the world. I tape it, but I don't re-watch the tapes (maybe one day I will). I'm just not passionate about it, like I was for Fea. I guess nothing can compare to first love. Have you seen "7 Dias" yet? I was surprised by the quality. Much better than Ladron.
 

Hi Everyone,
I haven't posted since the middle of Destilando, which I loved,but nothing compares to LFMB because of Jaime and Angelica. Could not get into Pasiones, so I went to Telemundo for Madre Luna,which was really bad and I'm watching Victoria now (just ok). I too am watching Amigas Y Rivales and Mujer de Madera when I get the chance, which is once a week. Two questions on Mujer, they swtiched actresses. What was the reason for that? Also, a couple of weeks ago there was a young girl(I believe a maid's daughter) who had a botched abortion and was in the hospital. Did she live and who was the baby's father?
Thanks,
Miranda
 

I think that's a great idea Paula!

I've tried to get interested in other telenovelas but so far no luck.
Nothing, nothing, nothing is like La Fea for me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I watch anything with Jaime just hoping for the old magic but it's just not there as it was with Lety.
I saw 7dias and although Jaime looked really sexy with the beard, it wasn't my favorite.
I'm always a sucker for a romantic comedy which is what LaFea was.

I don't know why Edith G. left Mujer does anyone else?

Carrie L.
 

Carrie, if you decide to get the complete set, I'll watch simultaneously. Really! I've just been itching for someone to re-watch the series with, to rehash after. What fun is a novela, if there is no one to talk to about it? Keep me posted.
 

Oops, I see I posted that previously. Sorry to look like such a bobo.
 

Esther, what was the note about that Georgina put in Jimena's notebook? I know that it said something about Carlos and Angela.
 

Hi guys, it's been a while. I have been taking my time watching the telenovelas r us version of fea, and I am thoroughly enjoying it. I am sorry, I cannot get into any other novela. It's kind of sad, because we know how it will end, and that there is a lot of pain, and that we are ultimately cheated in the end. I will be approaching the point where I originally got into the novela, when Lety took off from Conceptos. I am still watching it by myself, because my hubby thinks that it is silly. He has no class, or taste.....
 

Re: Camil's movie, 7 Dias, I just posted a review on NetFlix. It starts, "7 Dias, where fire and water collide."

Evelyn, my offer to Carrie, above, goes for you too, if you want to discuss episodes, dialog, etc. You can post here or at the TNW Fea Forum; I regularly check both. paulah88@hotmail.com
 

Lola, Georgina slipped Jimena a note that basically said Angela & Carlos have been sleeping together for a long time, even when Jimena was with Carlos. I feel really bad for Andrea. Isn't Nayelli's show going to L.A. to shoot? Well if they are, I hope that they can convince Alberado to come back.

Esther
 

Esther, are they going to kill Georgina's mother? Did you see Roxanna's face. She really wanted to kill Georgina.

Lola
 

Lola, I don't think they'll kill Georgina's mom. I do think that Georgina will end up dead. Did you notice that in the kissing scene with Nayelli & that actor, who's name I can't remember right now, they were playing music that sounded very similar to the la fea theme song? Also, I was rooting for Alberaldo, but he abondoned Andrea & so I wouldn't mind seeing her with that waiter. What do you think?

Esther
 

Esther, I think that both Nayelli and Andrea have found new "novias".
I don't remember the music. I'll try to listen to it today.

What is wrong with Ofelia. She has the greatest guy in the world and she keeps pushing him away. I really hated Ulises for going around with Georgina, but now, I wish him happiness. He can't seen to get it from his wife, Ofelia.

Lola
 

i just saw that until now you post comment and i am socked.i am very happy you can not imagine.i am from greece and i loved la fea.la fea ends here at 22 of december but i still watch the episode one you tube.I am big fan of angelica vale and i watch also amigas y rivales from dailymotion.My spanish are getting better and better so i can unterstand what they say(not all all but....).I heard that carla estrada the producer want angelica vale for th lead role of the novela Rina do you khow anything for this?please tell me i so want to see angelica again.
 

I see that K-Mart is going to have "La Fea" DVD available on Tuesday. The circular didn't give a price. I think that I will get it even though I have the other DVD's from Tele-novela.
 

Lola, do you think the dvd will be in the store or is it only online?

Esther
 

The DVD is in the store. It was advertised in the weekly sale flyer. I just told my husband to go over to K-Mart to get it since I am at work now. I'll let you know if they have it.
 

K-Mart does have the DVD's in the store. They are selling it for $17.99. It has 4 discs.
 

Lola, I accidently recorded over yesterday's amiga's episode. The last part I saw was Elizabeth Alvarez... Maaaarciaaa.... talking down to Nayelli & how she can't believe Nayelli is the protagonista. Could you tell me what happened after that?

Esther
 

Esther, Ofelia asked Ulises for a separation. He was devasted. What's up with Ofelia anyway. Also Roberto Jr. is trying to investigate who sent that letter to Nayeli and of course laura ia jealous. Laura's biological father, Alberto, came by to give Laura a gift--a brand new car.
Johnny was high and having a hissy fit in Nayeli's dressing room.

I got the DVD from K-Mart. They have English sub-titles.
 

Thanks for the recap Lola! Did you watch the dvd yet? Is it as choppy as people predicted?

Esther
 

I don't know if it is choppy or not yet because I didn't start watching the original until later. But so far it looks okay. I mean, you can tell that it was edited but the flow is fine. It doesn't seem choppy. There are 4 double sided DVD's.
Esther what is wrong with Ofelia. Why is she pushing Ulises away.
I felt so sorry for him yesterday.
 

Paula, I got the La Fea DVD's from Amazon today and watched the first two sections.
Mine has a couple of glitches and I wondered if you had gotten yours?
Mine has a blank or black screen between sections two and three.
Also, in the subtitles when the characters say the word English, the subtitle calls it Spanish.
I notice the same when they say president, the subtitle calls it chairman.
No big deal so far but I wonder if it's just my copy or is true for all of them.
I'm trying to watch with the English subtitles and it's driving me crazy!
Besides all of that, I'm so happy to have La Fea again!!!!!!!!!
I was practically jumping up and down and hugged my son when he brought in the mail!!!!!!!
I guess I'm a true Fea addict to the very end!!!!

Carrie L.
 

Lola, I'm getting really tired of Ophelia. Doesn't she understand that Ulisses' happiness is with her. I really hope Nayelli & Ernesto get together, but he's seems to be interested in Jimena aswell. No wonder they put Elizabeth Alvarez to play against Angelica in la fea becuase she can play the bad girl really well.

Esther
 

hey everyone, haven't posted here for awhile. I got my DVD's from amazon the other day. I have watched the first DVD and half of the second one. It does seem a little chopped up, I have been confused in a few places...but then I never saw the full version until Lety went to Alcapulco. I had missed the scene where Lety finds the letter...just watched it last night....Wow what a performance by Angelica!!!! I almost cried. So far I haven't seen the tender scene were Fern finds her sleeping on the bench at the train station. I think that may have been cut. I have seen so many scenes on You Tube, trying to fill in the first episodes I missed when it was on TV, that now I am having a little problem putting things in order in my head. It is nice to have the English subtitles. I have spotted a few errors here and there as previously mentioned. I also have brief blank screen between "Capitulos" I am really interested to know how everyone likes the condensed version.
Gordita
 

Gordita,
I've watched the first side of the first CD and am enjoying it very much!
The captions drive me crazy but without them I can't catch much of what they are saying.
I wish Jeanne (schoolmarm) could give me a tip on how to actually watch the characters and read. I'm reading and missing some of the acting.
Because of all the cutting we miss most of the long boring segments. Unfortunately we also miss a lot of the funny jokes and clowning around with Fernando and others.
The blank black screen was the only real glitch other than a few of the words. Other than that the quality seems very good.
I think it is definitely worth your time and the money. For me I think I'm still going to be yearning for the complete version.

Carrie L.
 

The condensed version is definately worth the money. I pre-ordered mine from Amazon, and only paid $16.99 (It ended up being $19.97 after S&H) but that is such a great price! I do plan on ordering the full set though. I am really enjoying them. I have been watching them late at night when there are no phone calls or interuptions. I watch a whole side at once.
Gordita
 

I Just finished watching the second DVD. Now I can tell that it was cut/edited a bit. I started watching the orignal when Lety had her first horrible makeover with the green outfit. I remember that tha camera followed Lety but did not show her face for a while. In the edited version, we see her in Fernando's office with that green outfit. But it is still worth seeing it with the English translations.
 

I am enjoying the condensed. It is nice to have all the blither cut out. But it's less intense. They cut the build-up to the event - the suffering and suspense and emotional struggle - so I don't care as much. e.g. the bribe. You didn't see the conversation with papa, where he reminded her who she is. In the complete version, great pain produces great joy. In the condensed, you have less suffering; thus less joy.

Carrie, about the subtitles, it's a learned skill; keep practicing. It's like when you're driving and you see everything at once. Try to watch the action primarily, and read the subtitles out of the corner of your eye. It takes practice. If your primary attention is the captions, you can't do it. Sometimes you will still have to pause or rewind to read the captions, especially if it's something unexpected.

I can read subtitles & watch. What I can't do yet, is read English subtitles and listen to Spanish dialog. My brain chooses one set of words or the other.

I can catch enough of the words to understand what's going on usually (except any time Omar talks, or Fern gets excited and talks fast). The place I have trouble is where grammar is critical for content. e.g. did she say, "I forgave you" or "I could forgive you if" or "I could have forgiven you, except that you.." or "I will forgive you when." Or did she say "I gave him my heart" or "he gave me his heart" or "he gave her his heart"?

Carrie, I'm glad that siren is still calling. You'll break down one of these days!

Gordita, let us know when you get the complete. Just make sure you've caught up on laundry, and stocked up on prepared food. Your family might not see you for a few weeks!!!
 

You are right Paula, I need to focus more on the action and not pay as much attention to the subtitles. They talk so fast and my eyes are jumping from words to the characters.
I miss all the build up to the events. It seems to be cut in a neat little package which is nice, but, I remember all the jokes and fun with Fernando and Omar and Lety. That's what I'm missing.
I know I will break down and get the full set eventually.
La Fea is going to be a lifelong love affair for me I believe.

Carrie L.
 

hi girls and boys!do you khow that angelica vale y ernesto laquardia
was together the time of amigas y rivales?i think that we gona see kiss with pasion.ok lety y fer o nayeli y ernesto?hmmmmmmmm my vote siepre por lety y fer.bye from greece
 

Yes, when I get the full set, my family is in big trouble!!! TV dinners and cold cereal...lol...I am back into the depths of my "Fea" addiction, so much better to have several hours, rather than a 7 minute hit on YouTube..It is a lifelong addiction for me. I even have that song "Besame" on my cell phone.

Gordita
 

Anonymous, are you serious? Angelica & Ernesto were actually dating during the show? I did see some sparks between them, like when he kissed her on the cheek.

Esther
 

esther

yes i read about it in internet that they were together then.if you go on youtube and put angelica vale y ernesto laguardia you gona see a lot videos of them.ernesto was to play the role of aldo on la fea but he sau no and people were saying that it was because he was still in love withb angelica.also on you tube put angelica maria entrevista angelica vale and some there says that except geoge clooney ernesto laquardia is her type or something like that i don't remeber.bye
 

Angelica & Ernesto! Wow. I have to watch closer at the chemistry on Amigas Y Rivales.
Esther, Ofelia is really getting on my nerves. What is wrong with her? And did you see how Jimena's friend, Joanie? at Rehab looked at Johnny. Maybe Nayelli will get jealous.
 

i must say that angelica maria ask angelica vale who is her ideal man and she says george clooney and ernesto laquardia but since he is married now only george clooney.they were daiting on and off for 3 years.i read that he was asking angelica to get back to him from his show Hoy .but that was years ago.that was the thing that i didn't write before.
 

I'm noticing a lot more details in the DVD than I did while watching the show.
All the close ups of Lety and Fern at the romantic times (before the letter).
He is SO gorgeous!
Even in her Lety disguise you can see she is beautiful underneath.
Omar and Fern standing together in their business suits! What a pair!
I wish I could have a couple of Omar and Fern bookends, or maybe as Ken dolls?
There is so much passion between Fern and Lety that seems genuine. I can't help believing there must have been some feelings in real life!

Carrie L.
 

how can i buy la fea dvd i am from greece?please tell me i love la fea .
 

Lola, I have given up on Ophelia. She is so stubborn. I can't believe Jimena's friend... how is she all of a sudden in love with Johnny? I hope Nayeli gets a little jealous & I hope Ernesto & Roberto meet each other. I wouldn't mind seeing Roberto jealous of Nayeli & Ernesto.

Esther
 

Carrie, you said "lifelong love affair with Fea." Hmm. That had not occurred to me. But maybe yo tambien (me too). I was full-blown obsessed while I was watching my way through the disks. I finished them about six weeks ago, and my obsession is fading.

I know that, like first love, Fea will always hold a special memory for me. I know I'll go back and watch some of the disks periodically. A "life-long love affair"? Maybe so. Time will tell.
 

When I'm away from them for a while I'm not constantly thinking about them or mourning their absence.
When I see one of the actors on television or watch one of the old La Fea shows, I'm happy and the good feelings come rushing back.
I'll always love the show and the characters.
I admit, I am a TV junkie and have been all my life. I have a small list of shows I have loved and actors I have loved, and La Fea will be right at the top.

Now I'm looking for some of the older telenovelas that might be fun to watch.
I searched Amazon for Zorro but it doesn't seem to be out yet.

Have a great weekend!
Carrie L.
 

Carrie, know anything about Corazon Salvaje? It's one of the classics everyone always talks about. Rubi is a classic, but it sounds too dark for my taste. Anyone know if CS is dark?

I wonder, is there an appetite in Mexico for lighter novelas? I believe Fea was so huge because it tapped an untapped market - romantic-comedy type novelas. I suspect the US market would gobble them up too. I think Juan Q tried to do that, but everyone hated it.
 

I love La Fea just like all of us here. Right now I am enjoying Amiga Y Rivales. I don't know what I will watch when that is finished. I hope that another good novela comes on. Something comparable to La Fea, if that's possible.
 

Lola, I think you'll like "Las tontas no van a cielo." It started 3 weeks ago in MX, and they typically show up in the US about 3months later. When does Guapos end here? Tontas would be right for the 8:00 slot.

It's an OCampo novela with Camil and Jacque Bracamontes (she played Magalay on Fea; remember the elec. engineer who rejected Fernando's flirting at the CineRent cocktail party?). It's light like Fea, but not over-the-top. The writing is not in the same league as Fea, but what is???

A lot of it feels like romantic comedy instead of intense novela. Some of the writing is innanely stupid, but other than that I'm enjoying it. The characters are very likeable. Like, the way you liked the characters on Cosby. I might try to be a recapper for it, when it gets to the US.
 

Lola, do you think that Ernesto had a relationship with that actress that's replacing Nayeli? I think that actress is going to be trouble.

Esther
 

I think I have seen pictures of the Rubi cover on Amazon.com.
I'm not familiar with Corazon but will look it up.
I love the romantic comedies the best.
I guess that to me real life is so serious I like the escape the comedies give.
On Netflix I search for movies in the classic section. Especially the under 1950 ones.
I'll check there for telenovelas. I know La Fea is available but I'm not sure about the others.

Thanks,
Carrie L.
 

Esther, I think that there was something between Ernesto & Paula. And she is replacing Roccio? (Elizabeth Alvarez) not Nayelli.
Do you think that Georgina will finally tell Ulises or Nayelli what she knows about the kidnapping?

Lola
 

Oops, that's right... Paula replaced the other actress. Um, I think that Georgina will eventually tell someone, especially if Nayeli's mother falls ill. Maybe Geogina's mom will die naturally & then she won't have to be afraid to tell anyone the truth.

Esther
 

Esther, now who is this new character, Pepe. Do we really need another character at this point?
He's the guy who was riding the horse on that big ranch.
 

Lola, we don't really know much about Pepe right now. All I know is that he just returned from Europe & his mother is sick. Maybe he's connected to one of the amigas. Tamara mentioned the othetr day that she's still waiting to meet the love of her life so maybe this Pepe guy will be her love interest. I really hope Ernesto is being sincere & not just showing affection towards Nayeli because he wants to make Paula jealous.

Esther
 

Esther, I hope that Ernesto is sincere too. Nayelli would be so hurt if he wasn't. Wait until Johnny sees them, he'll be really jealous and will probably start a fight. Also I hope that Abelardo doesn't start falling for Stephanie now that they are in Texas together. Andrea is already a basket case.
 

Lola, I don't Alberado to give into the lonliness & get back with Stephanie either. If he does though, then I hope Andrea gives the waiter guy a chance. Do you the name of the song playing at the end of today's episode when Ernesto kissed Nayeli?

Esther
 

If anyone needs a new installment of Camil kisses, Las Tontas Cap 17, Clip 3. You get four for the price of one! That should tide you over for awhile.

I've been watching Las Tontas on YouTube. If Fea was a romance with comedy, Tontas is a comedy with romance. Fun stuff.
 

Esther, I don't know the name of that song.
Roberto Sr. was shocked when Carlotta told him that she loved him. Who is she anyway? Roberto Jr. & Jimena call her Nana. Was she their nanny or is she their maternal grandmother?
 

Lola, I don't know who she is. I didn't even know she told Roberto Sr. that she loved him. About Pepe... is he an old friend of Roberto? Did u see Jimena's face when he kissed her hand!

Esther
 

Paula, thanks for posting the clip. I must say though that those kisses don't even compare to his kisses with Angelica! I'm waiting for the show to come on air in the U.S. So hopefully I can get into it then. It's funny because I started watching la fea half way through and I was hooked immediately.
 

Agreed. But keep in mind, it's only Cap 17. Rome wasn't built in a day. At this point in Fea, Lety had only just been promoted to asst. The first kiss wasn't until Cap 65, and they didn't seriously heat up until 95. Santiago is still working on thawing the big winter chill. I'm sure a sultry summer is on the horizon.

I suspect Tontas will never build the intensity Fea had - it's too much of a comedy. But it will get hotter, I'm sure.
 

i don't watch las tontas but i my opinion is that the kisses of lety y fer are the best.i think that we not gona see so pasionete kisses in a telenovela ever.
 

Thanks Paula for the Tontas clip!
It was nice to see Jaime in action again.
I don't care too much for the actress he was with. I can't remember what I saw her in but it was fairly recent.
If only we could get Jaime a jar of hair gel and a black suit!!!

Carrie L.
 

Esther, I was trying to figure out who Pepe was. It just occurred to me that he is "Juan Querendon".
Things are really heating up between Nayelli & Ernesto.
What's Paula's problem anyway.
 

Paula used to date Ernesto, but she ended up cheating on him because she believed the gossip in a tabloid & thought Ernesto was cheating on her. Ernesto found out & broke up with her. Now she wants him back, but he won't even give her the time of day. I liked her at first because she was nice to Nayeli, but the way she's been acting with Ernesto is creepy. Roxana & the other guy are horrible. What they did to Laura & Andrea is awful. Georigina should just step up & tell everyone who's behind all these attacks.

Esther
 

Paula used to date Ernesto, but she ended up cheating on him because she believed the gossip in a tabloid & thought Ernesto was cheating on her. Ernesto found out & broke up with her. Now she wants him back, but he won't even give her the time of day. I liked her at first because she was nice to Nayeli, but the way she's been acting with Ernesto is creepy. Roxana & the other guy are horrible. What they did to Laura & Andrea is awful. Georigina should just step up & tell everyone who's behind all these attacks.

Esther
 

Esther, you are right about Roxanna & Sebastian, they are 2 sick people. I think that Roberto Jr. will eventually figure it out.
Paula looks so young. She looks younger than Nayelli.
 

Esther, I knew Angela was going to eventually break and spill the beans. She is so terrified of Roxanna. I can't blame her.
Now Gina needs to back her up.
 

Lola, I can't believe that the truth about Roxana has finally come out. Why exactly did she tell Roberto the truth? Now that Nayeli's sis has escaped, they will have solid evidence against Roxana & Sebastian.

Esther
 

Esther, Angela told Carlos that Roxana had killed many people.
Roberto went to see her to see if she knew where Roxana was living because he knew that they had been good friends at one time.
So when Roberto came to Carlos' office he told Angela to tell him what she knew. But even Carlos didn't know exactly who Roxana had killed.
I hope that nayeli's sister gets away.
 

Lola, I forgot to turn my vcr on... did anything happen with Nayeli & Ernesto?

Esthet
 

Oh goodness... i can't believe i spelled my own name wrong!

Esther
 

Esther, Gema is safe and back with her sister Nayeli. Ernesto & Nayeli are novias now. He told her that he loved her.
Roxana & Sebastian actually tried to kill little Gema before she escaped from the hospital.
They went to the hospital and said that they were her parents. She started screaming when she saw them. Sebastian pulled out a gun & shot at her but missed. The doctor called security and they ran out.
Gema actually spent the night outside in an alley. A kind old man who had some puppets found her.
He befriended her and as they were walking they passed a store that has a TV on and Gema saw Nayeli on the screen. She told the old man that that was her sister. He then took her to Televisa studio. Nayeli was not there but Ernesto was. He called Nayeli on her cell phone and she came to the studio.

Now the hunt is on for Roxana and Sebastian.
 

thanks Lola! wow, i missed so much.

Esther
 

Esther, can you believe Sebastian?
What a character, disguising himself as Gina's father so that he can spy on the friends. Now he claims that he is a retired lawyer.
 

Lola, it's so obvious that Sebastian is not really bald. It looks completely fake, but not even Roberto seems to notice that. Things with Ernesto & Nayelli are getting really intense. Did you see Angelica laughing a little after Johnny & Ernesto were fighting over her. Ernesto pulled her dress and almost exposed her chest. Whether its in La Fea or in Amigas... she always seems to have 2 men fighting over her.

Esther
 

You are right Esther. Sebastian's make up looks so fake. I wish Gina would grow some Kahunas & tell someone what he & Roxana are doing.
I wish Johnny would sober up because he & Nayeli belong together. Every relationship she gets into she messes up because she can't stop thinking about Roberto. Do you think that Nayeli & Roberto will end up together?
 

Lola, I don't think Roberto & Nayeli will end up together. I think Nayeli will realize that what she feels for him isn't love, but admiration. So you think that she should be with Johnny too. I hate how they're turning Johnny into the bad guy. I can't believe Paula's mother... how dare she ask Nayeli that.

Esther
 

Did I miss something? Esther, what did Paula's mother ask Nayeli?
 

At the end of today's episode, Paula's mother basically asked Nayeli who she had to sleep with in order to get the role.

Esther
 

Esther, I am so happy that Ofelia & Ulises are finally back together.
And also the gang finally figured out that Gina is working for Roxanna.
 

Lola, it's about time the gang put two & two together. I too am happy for Ophelia & Uliysses. I just hope Ophelia doesn't change her mind.

Esther
 

Esther, yesterday's episode was so good. I was on the edge of my seat. Roxanna is a crazy B**ch.
I think that Sebastian is even a little afraid of her. I felt so bad for Angela and that poor little girl.
 

Lola, I feel really bad for Angela too. At least Geogina finally confessed. Can you believe Roxana has the nerve to call Roberto "Mi Anor" after all she's done to him.

Esther
 

Lola, I feel really bad for Angela too. At least Geogina finally confessed. Can you believe Roxana has the nerve to call Roberto "Mi Anor" after all she's done to him.

Esther
 

Esther, I just finished watching disc #3 from the La Fea DVD's. It's the one with the English subtitles. A lot was cut. I was kind of disappointed. But at least I have the other DVD's that don't have the English subtitles.
I am up to the part where Fernando got beat up in Acapulco and all of a sudden Marcia shows up to take him home. They didn't even show how she knew that he was in Acapulco.
 

See, that's exactly why I was hesitant to buy the dvd. i saw it at a strore on saturday & i was tempted to buy it, but I didn't. Well at least is the fight at Mason de san diego on there, or when they go to Germany?

Esther
 

They only showed Omar & Marcia in Germany. It doesn't even show when Lety & Fernando went to Germany, that was completely left out.
As for Amigas Y Rivales, do you think that Ofelia's mother is dead? I hate to say it but she deserved exactly what she got.
 

Esther also, a lot of the scenes with Paula Maria,Lola & Juanita are left out but that's ok.
What fight were you referring to at Mason de San Diego? I don't remember that.
 

Lola, I didn't even know Ophelia's mom was dying. the fight I'm referring to is when fernando finds out lety called thomas on his cell & they end up having a big fight outside the resturant. fernando wants to talk & clear things up, but lety tells him she doesn't want to be with him & she gets in a cab & drives off.

Esther
 

Oh yes Esther. That scene is included but it is shortened a bit.
I remember that after the arguement, Fernando went back inside and sat by the fireplace. They left that out.
They also left out the scene when Lety had that dream and injured her hand. They don't even address it. You see her at the airport with Carolina with the cast on her hand.

Ofelia's mother got beat up by a man she picked up in a bar. She tried to steal his money in the hotel and he beat her and kicked her. Now she is paralyzed.
 

The missing part I miss most is when Lety & Fern are at his house. Cap #111, Lola. It's #3 in my 10 favorite cap's. There is so much deep affection and strong love, without all the fear, deception, and and stress (until Pilar arrives). In fact, I propose that it is the only time, until the finale, that they are completely free, open, and giving with each other. Even at Cuernavaca and the resort of the proposal, one of them is holding back. But at his house, it's pure, very pure love.

And Lola & Esther, you go on enjoying your conversation, whatever the heck it's about!
 

Thanks Paula! You're welcome to join in on the conversation any time!

Esther
 

Thanks Paula, I really enjoyed that scene too. Have you seen Angela or Jaime in anything lately?
I really miss them. And I miss the conversations that everyone had here on this site. I enjoy talking to Esther very much.
 

"Las tontas no van a cielo" stars Jaime Camil. It's on cap (episode) 43 in Mexico. It should arrive in the US in the next couple months. It's a comedy like Fea, not as absurd and not nearly as good. But it's fun an enjoyable. If you want to see it on YouTube, go to Tontas on YouTube.

The first two cap's are AWFUL, but it gets much better thereafter. If you want, I can give you a synopsis of the first two cap's so you can skip them.

I'm sure Tontas will have a page here on Caray when it starts in the US.
 

Yes Paula, please give a synopsis. I will probably watch it. Amigas Y Rivales will probably be ending soon, so I will need another show to watch. How about Angelica Vale, what's she been up to lately, do you know?
 

Yes. Go to the TNW Fea Forum. In the thread, "Any Fea fans watching Tontas?" look in the second post in the thread. You'll see a synopsis of the first two cap's.

We're squatters on the Fea forum, using it for Tontas discussions, just like you're discussing your show here on the Fea blog. If you want to watch Tontas NOW, on YouTube, come join our discussion. If you want to wait for the US broadcast, as I said, I'm sure there will be a Caray page for it.
 

Lola, can you believe how much Luises has changed. Tamara always wants something after its gone. If Eduardo doesn't take Nayeli back, I hope she gets back together with Johnny.

Esther
 

Wow, I don't know what I was doing when I was writing this, but it's supposed to say Luis, not Luises, & Ernesto, not Eduardo.

Esther
 

Hi Esther. Wow, can you believe that Roxanna & Roberto jr are half siblngs. And also the lengths that Sebastian has gone to get revenge.
Nayelli and Johnny belong together. What do you think will happen to Gina?
 

Hi Lola! Good to hear from you as usual. So the Priest is Roberto's real father? How did that happen. Does Roxanna no she is Roberto's half sister? I think Gina has been accepted into the group so she'll be around for a while.

Esther
 

Hola Esther. I hear that the grand final is next week. The show has been on for a long time. I think that Ernesto & Paula will be together, as will Nayelli & Johnny, Jimena & Carlos. Maybe Pepe will end up with Gina.
 

Oh no... I will have nothing else to watch after that. Lola, what shows do you recommend I watch? I've enjoyed talking to you too & I hope we cand find a show that we both like so that we can keep communicating.

Esther
 

Esther, I don't know what to watch next either. Paula said that Las Tontas No Van a Cielo which has Jaime Camil might be a good choice. It's not on here yet.
I was watching "Viva Hollywood" it's a reality show on vh1. It's about choosing the next telenovela star from ordianry contestants. Each week someone will be eliminated. Anyway, a guest star will be featured each week and Angelica Vale will one of the guests.
Meanwhile just keep looking for something new to watch.
 

I was watching viva hollywood too, but I thought that only telemundo stars would be on it, so I stopped watching. But if Angelica is going to be on I'll definitely watch. Do you know when she'll be on?

Esther
 

Esther, Angelica Vale will be on Viva Hollywood next Sunday night.
Well Amigas Y Rivales is over. It was kind of sad to see it end. I didn't really like the ending.
Who sent the invitations to everyone to meet at 12 am? Was it Roxana? Speaking of Roxana, could you believe what she did a Nayeli's graduation party. She is one crazy B**tch.
 

Hey Lola! I can't believe the show is over. I woke up this morning & I realized I had nothing to watch. I didn't like the endidng either... it seemed so choppy. It didn't make sense either how Nayeli now all of a sudden loves Ernesto. And where was Laura, she wasn't even in the finale. Oh, I saw a clip of the new Jaime telenovela on youtube. It looked pretty racey, but Jaime wasn't in the scene. The one thing I liked about La fea was that it never crossed the line & that the love scenes were always tasteful.

Esther

Esther
 

Esther I feel so lost now with nothing to watch. My Spanish was really improving. I don't want to lose what I have learned so far.
Where was Laura? Did they even mention her?
Don't forget to watch Angelica Vale on "Viva Hollywood". I set my DVR to tape every episode just in case I forget.
I will be checking in on this site from time to time if you want to post something. I really liked taliking to yoiu Esther.
I just finished the third disc of La Fea. It is soooo cut up.
 

Yes I won't forget to wath viva hollywood. At least this upcoming episode will give us something to talk to. I like talking to you too Lola. Oh, I forgot to say earlier that it was Ophelia & Ulysses who sent those invitations to meet at 12. It's totally up to you... if you like, we can exchange emails if you would rather communicate that way. But I must say that it's fun checking this site to see if people respond to our comments.

Esther
 

Esther, your comments about Tontas. There is a very steamy scene with Pat in Cap 1 or 2, and cap's 1 & 2 are horrible anyway. Skip them unless you enjoy pain! From 3 forward, it's not like that. Also keep in mind, you're seeing the Mexican feed. I'm sure the scene with Pat will be heavily edited for US broadcast. That's standard.

If you want a good taste of Tontas, see YuriBlue's Playlists. Go to Capitulo 7, Clip 5. It's early in the series so not much of a spoiler. It's one of the best scenes of the early cap's. You'll find the language of Tontas pretty easy to understand (unlike Pasion). Ed, the buddy of Santiago (Camil) is the only one I have trouble with, and he's a minor character. You'll be surprised how differently Camil carries himself. Very quickly, you stop thinking of him as Don Fernando.

Lola, ITA regarding the condensed disks. They have the skeleton of the plot, but no flesh, no heart. The even dared to shorten the kiss! No puede ser! Nice to have the disks, but just not the same.

Y'know, it's been 3 months since I finished watching the complete series (300 hours) on disk. I thought I was recovered from my Fea obsession, so I indulged myself with a Fea marathon this weekend, from the condensed disks. Know what? I felt the obsession getting a grip on me all over again. What was it about Fea, that moved people so much? I've watched Pasion which is very good, and Tontas which is fun, but they don't even begin to approach the hold Fea had on me. It really was something extraordinary, wasn't it?
 

Paula you are so right. I can't stop thinking about La Fea also.
That is why I am taking my sweet time watching the dvds. This weekend I will start the 4th condensed disc. Later I will continue with the complete 300 hour set. I'll probably be watching La Fea for the rest of this year.
I don't know what it is either but there was just something special about La Fea.
 

Thanks Paula for the suggestion. I will definitely check it out. Your comment about how Jaime carries himself differently in Tontas... that's going to be the hard part for me. I don't want this Jaime to erase the Jaime/Fernando Mendiola that I know & love. But I have seen other clips & I must say that Jaime looks quite fetching in his blue scrubs!

Esther
 

Do you have any idea when Tontas is going to start here in the US?
I desperately need something else to watch (novela).
 

I'm glad to hear I'm not the only one who is still a La Fea fan! Those days of my La Fea obsession were some of the happiest!
I've watched the last few weeks of Pasion and enjoyed it. I couldn't get into it in the beginning.
I'll give anything with Jaime a try but it's Don Fernando and Lety I miss so much! I've always hoped they would do a sequel but it looks like no such luck.
Have a great summer everyone!

Carrie L.
 

Did anyone see Angelica Vale on "Viva Hollywood"? She really looked nice and her English is almost flawless.
She acted as a judge on the show.
 

Hey Lola, I only say bits & pieces of it. I really enjoyed hearing her talk in english. But, I don't really like the show. It's seems so fake & their acting doesn't seem up to par, compared to the other actor from telenovelas I've watched.

Esther
 

Does anyone know of a new telenovela starting soon starring Elizabeth Alvarez (Marcia)? on Univision.
 

Yes, the new Uni novela is "Fuego en la sangre" (Caray recaps). It's a remake of Pasion de Gavilanes (sp?). She plays one of three sisters who are the romantic targets of three brothers.

While Fea inspired deep devotion (we're still pining for it a year later!!!), and Pasion inspired profound emotion, Fuego (from what I've seen) mostly inspires ridicule. But that can be fun too - like a 60's rubber-suit monster movie.
 

eLola, doesn't Elizabeth Alvarez look different?

Esther
 

She sure does Esther. But Nora Salinas (Carolina) looks the same.
Did you see the Award show Sunday night? I only saw the last hour. It was on Univison. I saw Adamari Lopez (Ofelia) she was up for an award but she lost.
 

Lola, did this award show come before? i thought it was a rerun so i didn't watch. Admari hasn't aged at all. i miss amigas y rivales... i stil haven't found another show to replace it.

Esther
 

Esther, I miss Amigas Y Rivales too. I am now trying to get into Fuego De Sangre. It seems to be pretty good. I saw the guy who played Lopez in La Fea & Gardenia in Amigas. He plays a rough guy in this novela.
The award show "TV Y telenovelas was new 2008. I wish I had seen the whole show. If you check Univision's website you can see pictures. I think that Angelica Vale was a presenter but I missed that part.
 

Cross post from TVyNovelas Premios post.

I posted this over there to explain the unreliability of the awards. I thought you Fea fans would appreciate the explanation of why Camil didn't win Best Actor last year.
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I recently learned the explanation for the travesty that was last year's TVyNovela awards show, and that explanation provides a very clear glimpse into just how "unreliable" (e.g. corrupt) the results are.

Last year, Fea was La Reina de la Noche (!!) like DA this year. Fea won nearly every category. Even Jose Jose who was so catatonic, he makes our beloved Pablo look manic by comparison. Even the Fea theme song which makes me wish I was listening to a bagpipe concert instead. Fea swept nearly every category. Fea was wildly popular in MX and the US, so if TVyNov was a popularity contest, it would win on that count alone.

The best thing about Fea was Camil's Don Fernando. Some say the only good thing about it was Camil (I differ; I loved the whole show). He gave a legendary performance on a legendary show. Overacted, yes, but it was supposed to be. Since the show ruled the awards, he was a shoe-in for Best Actor, right? He WAS the show! He'd won the popular voting by a landslide. Yet he lost the award to Yanez.

How'd that happen? Well, it turns out that Camil is not contracted to Televisa. He's independent; he does not belong to the network like the others. And Televisa was not about to let a non-contract actor, especially in his first novela lead, win the prize of the night, Best Actor. No way, no how, regardless of the popular vote. So the judges made sure Yanez won.

So you see, the choices for those little statues are about as "fair and impartial" as the time Marsha Brady tried out for the cheerleading squad. It's all scripted by the writers, and as always, Big Brother Televisa gets what it wants. View it as a night to see your favorites out of costume, in pretty dresses, but certainly don't view it as an honest contest. Far from it.
 

No it was not a rerun. it was for 2008. If you log on to the Univision website you can see some of the photos. I think that Angelica Vale was a presenter but I didn't see that part.
Nora Salinas was a presenter also.
 





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