Tuesday, January 22, 2008
Pasión, 01/21/08: When It Rains It Pours!
While Ric and his horse are galloping toward San Fernando to the rhythm of something a bit more sinister sounding than “24 Hours from Tulsa” in the background, Jorge and LaBouffant have been discussing the shocking possibility that these two chests they five-finger discounted might belong to Ric, that secretive li’l bugger! Just then, as Jorge is pondering the possibilities that presents, Gonzo returns from his failed mission to La Mariana and tells Jorge and LaFont that Dr. Bonifacio died, but the good news is that he did find out from a couple of local “bidnezmen” that Lis has a cousin who is a pirate.
Jorge says that’s old news. So Gonzo asks if they ever once bothered to ask either of the women what his name was, duh. Before Dumb and Dumber can answer Gonzo tells them that his name is Ricardo too, Ricardo de Salamanca. Both Jorge and LaFont stare at each other and then at Gonzo in coinkydink- impactado unison.
Gonzo explains that he ran into Ric on the boat during his trip back to La Mariana. Ric himself told him he was from San Vicente Island nearby. However, neither the innkeeper nor the local merchant he got chummy with had ever heard of de Carvajal. Gonzo apologizes for the lack of results and leaves.
LaFont says then the guy remains a mystery, but they should think it through a bit. They agree then that Ric is in fact Lis’s pirate cousin, the women lied and the two coffers are his. Jorge worries then that someone might have seen them during the robbery, but LaFont says even so, they all had their faces covered up to their eyes. Jorge then says they’ll confront Ric once he returns with all the things that Gonzo has just told them and he’ll be forced to give them an answer. “Rotten luck, though, that that doctor had to die when we needed that letter the most.”
Don Mateo and Don Uriel arrive then to see if they’re going to some party at one of the other guy’s place, but Jorge says he’s got a house guest so, no. Then one of them brings up divvying up the loot in the dungeon. Jorge says the cash yes, but he nixes the jewels saying that someone might recognize them, making it too risky. However, he’ll pay them the equivalent in cash. The two dons wonder who determines what each is worth and they aren’t too happy with Jorge’s “Don’t you trust me?” response.
Ines comes to check in with Cami about Vasco. Cami says she’s spoken to him and he’s going to come through for her but it will take a few days. First the two of them need to speak to Ofelia and Justo. Ines senses that Vasco is just not really up for the idea and was hoping he’d feel just a little something for her. What else can Cami do but hint that there will always be another to come along for her?
They have a tearful heart to heart while Cami tells Ines how she’s finally gotten over Santiago now that a new man has entered her life --Ric--and when she least wanted it or expected it. He came just at the right moment and she’s fallen in love with him. Love’s a scary thing, they agree, but Cami has got to trust and oh well, they cry together. Enough said. (This scene is so lame. Somebody shoot this writer, please?)
Meanwhile, that afternoon, Claudio wanders around the fairgrounds and catches a glimpse of somebody with Ursula who looks a tad like his cousin, Alvaro de la Cueva. He shakes it off and goes on about his business.
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Night falls.
That evening Ascanio goes to visit Cami and tell her about his plans to take a room at her father’s but only after Ric returns. He asks if Jorge’s been by and harassing her lately. She answers no. He tells her he thinks that Ric is the only guy who can protect her against Jorge’s unwanted advances.
Ascanio returns to the fair looking for Claudio, but no one has seen him. He’s gone to Ofelia’s for a motherly chat with her.
At the palace, Sofia encourages Ursula and Al to go to the fair for a little bit to have a little fun. After a little coaxing, Ursula allows herself to be persuaded and goes for her wrap. Meanwhile, Sofia advises Al that the guy needs to get busy and get Ursula pregnant ASAP. Jorge wants that grandson. They also chat about Ursula’s uh...capricious... nature. Then the talk turns to his two missing cousins. Sofia asks Al if the two were to return would that mean the loss of his title and fortune. Al manages to avoid a direct answer: “I would gladly give it all up just to have them back again.” (Are we gagging here?)
Bernabe, Vasco and Ascanio kid around about whether Ascanio is truly interested in Ines. He says sure, she’s a great catch, but he understood she was interested in someone else. Vasco says a guy has to fight for the girl at times. Ascanio cuts the conversation off and says he’s going to look for Claudio and heads off. Vasco tells Bernabe the guy is definitely in love.
Ric rides in and heads immediately for Cami’s place. She answers the door and they fall into each others’ arms and kiss. He stops a second and asks her if this means she accepts and she nods yes and they kiss again. He laughs and says he’s acting like some kid on his first date. She says they need to talk and he says fine, but first he needs to eat something.
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At the fair again, Ines notices Vasco gambling, surrounded by willing women. She frowns. Ursula and Al arrive at the other end of the square. Justo and Ofelia show up also.
Back at Cami’s she and Ric talk about the trip and it having a positive outcome. Ric mentions that he ran into Gonzo on the boat on a job for Jorge. He explains that it was probably to get another ED letter from the doctor, but unfortunately for him, the guy passed away.
Cami is certain it was to force her into something and Ric agrees. She tells him then about Jorge’s black hearted blackmail and how he has threatened not to give his formal approval to their marriage. Cami tells him how Jorge sent for her father while Ric was away, telling him that he was sponsoring Gonzo and wanting to arrange her engagement to de Oca. Ric, jumps up and says, “Over my dead body!”
Cami continues that since her father didn’t know about Ric’s proposal, he had no other option but to agree to it. “—But you hadn’t said yes,” Ric mentions. “—Well, afterward I thought better about it,” she replies and then cries. “Then, Jorge came over here later on to tell me that we need his approval to marry and unless I go to bed with him first he won’t give it.” He swears that if Jorge lays a hand on her again, that hand will be minced for chum.
Still at the fair, Ines, GRita, Paco and Claudio are now at the knife-throw when Ines mentions Ursula and her fiancé are there. Claudio stops in his tracks and stares. He’s unaware that the carny has handed him the knife for the game for a throw. He turns and walks in a daze towards Ursula and his cousin, the knife in his hand.
Ophelia watches in horror as she sees Claudio walk past with a murderous glare in his eyes. Alvaro is surprised to see him, “Claudio!” “—Murderer!” Claudio, with a two-handed jab, stabs Alvaro in the chest and runs off, covered in blood. Alvaro falls and Ursula screams. Ophelia tells the family what she just saw. Ascanio races after Claudio.
Ric is telling Cami that there are so many things he needs to tell her, some not so pleasant, but necessary for her to understand him. She says good idea because she’s still a bit frightened by him, all things considered. He assures her then that despite the life he’s had to lead, he’s tried to be just throughout. Just then Claudio starts banging at the gate. Ric lets him in and sees immediately the kid is covered in blood and he starts demanding to know what he’s done.
Claudio tells them what he just did to de la Cueva in the plaza. Ascanio races in then to tell them that Ursula knows Claudio and knows he lives with Cami. Ric tells them that when people show up, to tell them they have not seen the boy. He then races out with Claudio to help him escape.
Cami’s family, Ophelia and Ines show up first. Cami and Ascanio explain that the Duke was his cousin, the man who had him and his brother kidnapped and sold into slavery. When they ask, Ascanio and she swallow hard, then answer they’ve not seen Claudio and don't know where he could be. Justo sends the others home then but he and Vasco stay.
At Ric’s they clean Claudio up, and Claudio tells him what happened and why. He is not sorry in the least. Ric screams in frustration at him. “You made a mistake and you pay for mistakes! You cannot go back to Salvatierra now and from here on you’re a man and you’ve got to make your way by yourself on your own.” With a final fatherly hug he sends him off with El Guero to La Iguana.
As if that wasn’t enough, Mario gives Ric the news that while he was away, everything that could go wrong did. First Mario explains that while he was occupied with Ric’s aunt's and cousin’s demands, Lazaro escaped, apparently after seeing Cami and Claudio here and realizing the rest. Ric knows there’s something more. “What? What else?” “—That’s not the worst of it.” “—What is, then?” He tells him how the caravan with all his hard-won booty was attacked and stolen. “--You mean my whole fortune is gone? That’s impossible!!” Ric wonders why in the world Pablo didn’t bring the chests with the crew instead of with a caravan. (Sorry, Ric. That's why you're the captain and Pablo's still just one of the crew.)
Lis and Fran enter the living room once they hear Ric’s screaming at Mario. He says nothing and stomps off in a fury. Mario excuses himself and follows him out. The two women think that Don Gaspar must have given him bad news.
In Ric’s room Mario tells him that all were found dead save Pablo who is gravely wounded and unconscious. Mario blames himself, but Ric says no, it’s just Ric’s own bad luck that constantly follows him.
Meanwhile Cami tells Vasco and Justo that she hopes if the Duke lives then Jorge would pardon him if he understood the circumstances, about the kidnapping and so on. Justo doesn’t think Jorge would pardon the boy for any reason. Justo wonders how she knows all about the Duke and the kidnapping. Cami covers and says she didn’t talk to the captain, but Claudio did and he heard the kidnappers tell this to the captain. Vasco finds it hard to believe Ursula would marry a murderer and thinks the kid was justified. Justo is impactado to hear this from Vasco.
At Santiago’s GRita and the others explain what happened earlier and Santi wants to rush off to offer his support. GRita yells that it isn’t necessary because her father and brother are there. He says Cami's family, his sister-in-law and he has to go. GRita screams (Gawd, woman, give it a rest!) that he still cares more for Camila than even his own child. She accuses him again of having been with Cami that night because neither of the two of them showed up at the fair. Saintly (because by now he has redeemed the title, having put up with this and so much more for lo these many months since Cami’s return) denies it. He tells her she’s sick in the head from jealousy and he’s going; he doesn’t care what she thinks about it and he storms away.
Ophelia scolds GRita again for arguing like this and putting the baby at risk from so much upset. (A warning like this most certainly does not bode well when delivered from on high by the telenovela gods.)
Back at Ric’s, he and Mario go to see about Pablo. He’s angry to see Jimena there and wonders what Mario’s game is, possibly wanting to shack up with her there. Mario won’t take the bait and says she’s been looking after Pablo. Jimena wakes up and says he’s only said a few words, calling for Ric and is still very weak. Mario says Ophelia’s been to see to him daily and this frustrates Ric even more. He says the guy should have been seen by a doctor, but Mario explains they couldn’t risk it. Jimena says that if Pablo’s still alive it’s due to Ophelia’s skill. Ric just snorts and tries uselessly to wake him.
Saintly arrives at Cami’s to offer help. The discussion turns to whether or not Claudio came through there earlier all upset and whether or not she and Ascanio saw him. Cami and Ascanio say not, but Santiago doesn’t believe them and accuses them of knowing but refusing to tell anyone in the family where he is. Cami tells Santi she does not know where he is and even if she did she wouldn’t tell him. Justo says it doesn’t matter. They’re only there to back her up when the guard and Jorge show up.
Meanwhile, at the palace the priest is called to give last rites to Alvaro. Ursula tells her father and the captain of the guard that Claudio was to blame, he’s a certain relative of de la Cueva because that’s the last name he introduced himself to her with, but that he lives with Cami and is her protege. She says certainly that means Cami’s involved and probably egged Claudio on. Jorge wonder’s exactly what in the heck for. Ursula says she’s hasn’t the foggiest, but she wants the woman arrested too. Jorge hasn’t decided if this is such a good idea (guess he hasn’t figured out a good way to force her to sleep with him over it yet). He sends Ursula back up to stay with her man till he breathes his last, which should be soon. She runs back upstairs.
Alberto wonders if Claudio isn’t one of the two missing "nephews" Alvaro mentioned. Jorge says could be, since Paulino mentioned that Alvaro called him by name just before the boy yelled “murderer” at him and stabbed him. LaFont laughs at Jorge’s rotten luck in choosing husbands for Ursula: first a pirate and now a murderer! Jorge says well, that's the the way it is so, hopefully this unfortunate sad sack dies quickly because he is ready for bed. But, hey, since it obviously is going to be a while they might as well get a drink.
Upstairs the women are praying. Al takes a last pained breath then goes to meet his maker, and it’s back to the drawing board for Sofia for there will now be no parties at the Viceroy’s for the unfortunate Fortunata nor a dreamy Duchy for daughter Ursula.
Jorge says that’s old news. So Gonzo asks if they ever once bothered to ask either of the women what his name was, duh. Before Dumb and Dumber can answer Gonzo tells them that his name is Ricardo too, Ricardo de Salamanca. Both Jorge and LaFont stare at each other and then at Gonzo in coinkydink- impactado unison.
Gonzo explains that he ran into Ric on the boat during his trip back to La Mariana. Ric himself told him he was from San Vicente Island nearby. However, neither the innkeeper nor the local merchant he got chummy with had ever heard of de Carvajal. Gonzo apologizes for the lack of results and leaves.
LaFont says then the guy remains a mystery, but they should think it through a bit. They agree then that Ric is in fact Lis’s pirate cousin, the women lied and the two coffers are his. Jorge worries then that someone might have seen them during the robbery, but LaFont says even so, they all had their faces covered up to their eyes. Jorge then says they’ll confront Ric once he returns with all the things that Gonzo has just told them and he’ll be forced to give them an answer. “Rotten luck, though, that that doctor had to die when we needed that letter the most.”
Don Mateo and Don Uriel arrive then to see if they’re going to some party at one of the other guy’s place, but Jorge says he’s got a house guest so, no. Then one of them brings up divvying up the loot in the dungeon. Jorge says the cash yes, but he nixes the jewels saying that someone might recognize them, making it too risky. However, he’ll pay them the equivalent in cash. The two dons wonder who determines what each is worth and they aren’t too happy with Jorge’s “Don’t you trust me?” response.
Ines comes to check in with Cami about Vasco. Cami says she’s spoken to him and he’s going to come through for her but it will take a few days. First the two of them need to speak to Ofelia and Justo. Ines senses that Vasco is just not really up for the idea and was hoping he’d feel just a little something for her. What else can Cami do but hint that there will always be another to come along for her?
They have a tearful heart to heart while Cami tells Ines how she’s finally gotten over Santiago now that a new man has entered her life --Ric--and when she least wanted it or expected it. He came just at the right moment and she’s fallen in love with him. Love’s a scary thing, they agree, but Cami has got to trust and oh well, they cry together. Enough said. (This scene is so lame. Somebody shoot this writer, please?)
Meanwhile, that afternoon, Claudio wanders around the fairgrounds and catches a glimpse of somebody with Ursula who looks a tad like his cousin, Alvaro de la Cueva. He shakes it off and goes on about his business.
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Night falls.
That evening Ascanio goes to visit Cami and tell her about his plans to take a room at her father’s but only after Ric returns. He asks if Jorge’s been by and harassing her lately. She answers no. He tells her he thinks that Ric is the only guy who can protect her against Jorge’s unwanted advances.
Ascanio returns to the fair looking for Claudio, but no one has seen him. He’s gone to Ofelia’s for a motherly chat with her.
At the palace, Sofia encourages Ursula and Al to go to the fair for a little bit to have a little fun. After a little coaxing, Ursula allows herself to be persuaded and goes for her wrap. Meanwhile, Sofia advises Al that the guy needs to get busy and get Ursula pregnant ASAP. Jorge wants that grandson. They also chat about Ursula’s uh...capricious... nature. Then the talk turns to his two missing cousins. Sofia asks Al if the two were to return would that mean the loss of his title and fortune. Al manages to avoid a direct answer: “I would gladly give it all up just to have them back again.” (Are we gagging here?)
Bernabe, Vasco and Ascanio kid around about whether Ascanio is truly interested in Ines. He says sure, she’s a great catch, but he understood she was interested in someone else. Vasco says a guy has to fight for the girl at times. Ascanio cuts the conversation off and says he’s going to look for Claudio and heads off. Vasco tells Bernabe the guy is definitely in love.
Ric rides in and heads immediately for Cami’s place. She answers the door and they fall into each others’ arms and kiss. He stops a second and asks her if this means she accepts and she nods yes and they kiss again. He laughs and says he’s acting like some kid on his first date. She says they need to talk and he says fine, but first he needs to eat something.
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At the fair again, Ines notices Vasco gambling, surrounded by willing women. She frowns. Ursula and Al arrive at the other end of the square. Justo and Ofelia show up also.
Back at Cami’s she and Ric talk about the trip and it having a positive outcome. Ric mentions that he ran into Gonzo on the boat on a job for Jorge. He explains that it was probably to get another ED letter from the doctor, but unfortunately for him, the guy passed away.
Cami is certain it was to force her into something and Ric agrees. She tells him then about Jorge’s black hearted blackmail and how he has threatened not to give his formal approval to their marriage. Cami tells him how Jorge sent for her father while Ric was away, telling him that he was sponsoring Gonzo and wanting to arrange her engagement to de Oca. Ric, jumps up and says, “Over my dead body!”
Cami continues that since her father didn’t know about Ric’s proposal, he had no other option but to agree to it. “—But you hadn’t said yes,” Ric mentions. “—Well, afterward I thought better about it,” she replies and then cries. “Then, Jorge came over here later on to tell me that we need his approval to marry and unless I go to bed with him first he won’t give it.” He swears that if Jorge lays a hand on her again, that hand will be minced for chum.
Still at the fair, Ines, GRita, Paco and Claudio are now at the knife-throw when Ines mentions Ursula and her fiancé are there. Claudio stops in his tracks and stares. He’s unaware that the carny has handed him the knife for the game for a throw. He turns and walks in a daze towards Ursula and his cousin, the knife in his hand.
Ophelia watches in horror as she sees Claudio walk past with a murderous glare in his eyes. Alvaro is surprised to see him, “Claudio!” “—Murderer!” Claudio, with a two-handed jab, stabs Alvaro in the chest and runs off, covered in blood. Alvaro falls and Ursula screams. Ophelia tells the family what she just saw. Ascanio races after Claudio.
Ric is telling Cami that there are so many things he needs to tell her, some not so pleasant, but necessary for her to understand him. She says good idea because she’s still a bit frightened by him, all things considered. He assures her then that despite the life he’s had to lead, he’s tried to be just throughout. Just then Claudio starts banging at the gate. Ric lets him in and sees immediately the kid is covered in blood and he starts demanding to know what he’s done.
Claudio tells them what he just did to de la Cueva in the plaza. Ascanio races in then to tell them that Ursula knows Claudio and knows he lives with Cami. Ric tells them that when people show up, to tell them they have not seen the boy. He then races out with Claudio to help him escape.
Cami’s family, Ophelia and Ines show up first. Cami and Ascanio explain that the Duke was his cousin, the man who had him and his brother kidnapped and sold into slavery. When they ask, Ascanio and she swallow hard, then answer they’ve not seen Claudio and don't know where he could be. Justo sends the others home then but he and Vasco stay.
At Ric’s they clean Claudio up, and Claudio tells him what happened and why. He is not sorry in the least. Ric screams in frustration at him. “You made a mistake and you pay for mistakes! You cannot go back to Salvatierra now and from here on you’re a man and you’ve got to make your way by yourself on your own.” With a final fatherly hug he sends him off with El Guero to La Iguana.
As if that wasn’t enough, Mario gives Ric the news that while he was away, everything that could go wrong did. First Mario explains that while he was occupied with Ric’s aunt's and cousin’s demands, Lazaro escaped, apparently after seeing Cami and Claudio here and realizing the rest. Ric knows there’s something more. “What? What else?” “—That’s not the worst of it.” “—What is, then?” He tells him how the caravan with all his hard-won booty was attacked and stolen. “--You mean my whole fortune is gone? That’s impossible!!” Ric wonders why in the world Pablo didn’t bring the chests with the crew instead of with a caravan. (Sorry, Ric. That's why you're the captain and Pablo's still just one of the crew.)
Lis and Fran enter the living room once they hear Ric’s screaming at Mario. He says nothing and stomps off in a fury. Mario excuses himself and follows him out. The two women think that Don Gaspar must have given him bad news.
In Ric’s room Mario tells him that all were found dead save Pablo who is gravely wounded and unconscious. Mario blames himself, but Ric says no, it’s just Ric’s own bad luck that constantly follows him.
Meanwhile Cami tells Vasco and Justo that she hopes if the Duke lives then Jorge would pardon him if he understood the circumstances, about the kidnapping and so on. Justo doesn’t think Jorge would pardon the boy for any reason. Justo wonders how she knows all about the Duke and the kidnapping. Cami covers and says she didn’t talk to the captain, but Claudio did and he heard the kidnappers tell this to the captain. Vasco finds it hard to believe Ursula would marry a murderer and thinks the kid was justified. Justo is impactado to hear this from Vasco.
At Santiago’s GRita and the others explain what happened earlier and Santi wants to rush off to offer his support. GRita yells that it isn’t necessary because her father and brother are there. He says Cami's family, his sister-in-law and he has to go. GRita screams (Gawd, woman, give it a rest!) that he still cares more for Camila than even his own child. She accuses him again of having been with Cami that night because neither of the two of them showed up at the fair. Saintly (because by now he has redeemed the title, having put up with this and so much more for lo these many months since Cami’s return) denies it. He tells her she’s sick in the head from jealousy and he’s going; he doesn’t care what she thinks about it and he storms away.
Ophelia scolds GRita again for arguing like this and putting the baby at risk from so much upset. (A warning like this most certainly does not bode well when delivered from on high by the telenovela gods.)
Back at Ric’s, he and Mario go to see about Pablo. He’s angry to see Jimena there and wonders what Mario’s game is, possibly wanting to shack up with her there. Mario won’t take the bait and says she’s been looking after Pablo. Jimena wakes up and says he’s only said a few words, calling for Ric and is still very weak. Mario says Ophelia’s been to see to him daily and this frustrates Ric even more. He says the guy should have been seen by a doctor, but Mario explains they couldn’t risk it. Jimena says that if Pablo’s still alive it’s due to Ophelia’s skill. Ric just snorts and tries uselessly to wake him.
Saintly arrives at Cami’s to offer help. The discussion turns to whether or not Claudio came through there earlier all upset and whether or not she and Ascanio saw him. Cami and Ascanio say not, but Santiago doesn’t believe them and accuses them of knowing but refusing to tell anyone in the family where he is. Cami tells Santi she does not know where he is and even if she did she wouldn’t tell him. Justo says it doesn’t matter. They’re only there to back her up when the guard and Jorge show up.
Meanwhile, at the palace the priest is called to give last rites to Alvaro. Ursula tells her father and the captain of the guard that Claudio was to blame, he’s a certain relative of de la Cueva because that’s the last name he introduced himself to her with, but that he lives with Cami and is her protege. She says certainly that means Cami’s involved and probably egged Claudio on. Jorge wonder’s exactly what in the heck for. Ursula says she’s hasn’t the foggiest, but she wants the woman arrested too. Jorge hasn’t decided if this is such a good idea (guess he hasn’t figured out a good way to force her to sleep with him over it yet). He sends Ursula back up to stay with her man till he breathes his last, which should be soon. She runs back upstairs.
Alberto wonders if Claudio isn’t one of the two missing "nephews" Alvaro mentioned. Jorge says could be, since Paulino mentioned that Alvaro called him by name just before the boy yelled “murderer” at him and stabbed him. LaFont laughs at Jorge’s rotten luck in choosing husbands for Ursula: first a pirate and now a murderer! Jorge says well, that's the the way it is so, hopefully this unfortunate sad sack dies quickly because he is ready for bed. But, hey, since it obviously is going to be a while they might as well get a drink.
Upstairs the women are praying. Al takes a last pained breath then goes to meet his maker, and it’s back to the drawing board for Sofia for there will now be no parties at the Viceroy’s for the unfortunate Fortunata nor a dreamy Duchy for daughter Ursula.
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Aii, Claudio, Claudio! You've got your avengance, but at what cost? I have this strange mix of pride and dread going on.
I kept waiting for Counsin Al to start twirling his mustache and looking for railroad tracks to tie someone to. He had that oily silent-movie villain feel to him.
I'm surprised that Jorge hasn't already come up with a means of using this to get to Cami. It took me all of thirty seconds to suspect he'd offer a pardon for a poking.
I kept waiting for Counsin Al to start twirling his mustache and looking for railroad tracks to tie someone to. He had that oily silent-movie villain feel to him.
I'm surprised that Jorge hasn't already come up with a means of using this to get to Cami. It took me all of thirty seconds to suspect he'd offer a pardon for a poking.
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: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 at 4:22:00 AM EST
: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 at 4:22:00 AM EST
Well, this explains why Alvaro had a crummy coat - he was a short timer. No need to waste $$$ on fitting him for a fancy coat.
Did everyone notice that the priest had the pudding bowl haircut but not a tonsure. I guess they didn't want to spend the $$$ on a proper priest wig.
At least something happened on this episode!
Did everyone notice that the priest had the pudding bowl haircut but not a tonsure. I guess they didn't want to spend the $$$ on a proper priest wig.
At least something happened on this episode!
Permalink posted by : Tuesday, January 22, 2008 at 6:53:00 AM EST
: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 at 6:53:00 AM EST
I like that Ric's character has a darker side. That hot temper of his- was HOT!
I was surprised to see Alvaro go. I was expecting to see more from him in the plotting and scheming department.
This novela is just fabulous- one of the best I have seen in a long time.
Tani
I was surprised to see Alvaro go. I was expecting to see more from him in the plotting and scheming department.
This novela is just fabulous- one of the best I have seen in a long time.
Tani
Permalink posted by : Tuesday, January 22, 2008 at 7:26:00 AM EST
: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 at 7:26:00 AM EST
Thanks cuzzin Jardinera/dreaded lucy cash, liked your 'coinkydink in unison' phrase.
Grita sure knows how to be a harpy. If I were Santi, I'd be looking for a way out too. Even if it's just for a while.
I like that even though Ric is having a bad day, he didn't take it out on anyone-even his wicked Tia who deserves it. Also, he was enraged about his lost treasure, but didn't blame Mario.
Ric's returning to Cami was good, but still not feeling the luuuve...
jb-Iron Jack Cash
Grita sure knows how to be a harpy. If I were Santi, I'd be looking for a way out too. Even if it's just for a while.
I like that even though Ric is having a bad day, he didn't take it out on anyone-even his wicked Tia who deserves it. Also, he was enraged about his lost treasure, but didn't blame Mario.
Ric's returning to Cami was good, but still not feeling the luuuve...
jb-Iron Jack Cash
Permalink posted by : Tuesday, January 22, 2008 at 7:37:00 AM EST
: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 at 7:37:00 AM EST
Jardinera: Great detailed recap. This looks like an opportunity for a telenovela routine: Pablo will awake, but, when he does, he'll have amnesia!
From lower Ala
From lower Ala
As usual, an excellent recap, Jardinera.
I too liked Ric's hot temper because it was really a frustration that Claudio had ruined his young life. And it was a nice acting touch that after he hollered at him, he hugged him --like a father would do with a son. And yes the fact that Ric didn't take out his own frustrations and anger on Mario and his relatives was a plus for his character. Another plus was his meeting/kisses with Camila, and the way he said he felt like a kid in love for the first time. Is there really a man alive like Ric???
While there was alot of action, it can't be denied that the show always seems more interesting when Fernando has alot to do in the episode.
Also I think the young actor who plays Claudio did a fine acting job. He definitely shows promise as an actor. NJSUE
I too liked Ric's hot temper because it was really a frustration that Claudio had ruined his young life. And it was a nice acting touch that after he hollered at him, he hugged him --like a father would do with a son. And yes the fact that Ric didn't take out his own frustrations and anger on Mario and his relatives was a plus for his character. Another plus was his meeting/kisses with Camila, and the way he said he felt like a kid in love for the first time. Is there really a man alive like Ric???
While there was alot of action, it can't be denied that the show always seems more interesting when Fernando has alot to do in the episode.
Also I think the young actor who plays Claudio did a fine acting job. He definitely shows promise as an actor. NJSUE
Permalink posted by : Tuesday, January 22, 2008 at 10:23:00 AM EST
: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 at 10:23:00 AM EST
Great recap, good episode with lots of action. Claudio is a little cutie--definitely a galan in progress. Just when Ric had hopes of getting his life all back in order, now everything falls apart and he has to fix it. Mario is such a super sidekick, I know the two of them can prevail.
The last two episodes, Ursula's hairdo has moved away from that awful high beehive into some complex swirls and curls. She has NO luck in finding a husband.
La Paloma
The last two episodes, Ursula's hairdo has moved away from that awful high beehive into some complex swirls and curls. She has NO luck in finding a husband.
La Paloma
Permalink posted by : Tuesday, January 22, 2008 at 11:03:00 AM EST
: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 at 11:03:00 AM EST
Jardinera/Cousin dreaded lucy cash—Your recaps are so diverting—such a lovely warped sense of humor (my favorite, as you know)! Thanks for this one!
“bidnezmen” – Great Southern term, one of my hubby’s favorites.
“Jorge worries then that someone might have seen them during the robbery, but LaFont says even so, they all had their faces covered up to their eyes.” I was hooting with laughter when I heard him say this, since we’ve all recognized the flaw in this logic long since. Apparently, he doesn’t keep enough mirrors handy.
“Then one of them brings up divvying up the loot in the dungeon. Jorge says the cash yes, but he nixes the jewels saying that someone might recognize them” DRAT! He’s been reading this blog! Now we’ll all have to analyze another direction.
“(This scene is so lame. Somebody shoot this writer, please?)” LOL! Agreed, it was not worth the film it wasted.
“Al manages to avoid a direct answer: “I would gladly give it all up just to have them back again.” (Are we gagging here?)” Yep, absolutely! I was not the least bit sorry to see him offed, however, I wish Claudio hadn’t been so visible in doing it. Still, we can assume that all will end well for Claudio. Carla Estrada wouldn’t off her own son in a big role like this, would she? ;-)
“Ric wonders why in the world Pablo didn’t bring the chests with the crew instead of with a caravan. (Sorry, Ric. That's why you're the captain and Pablo's still just one of the crew.)” LOL-yep. Pablo and the boys aren’t rocket scientists. Mario, yes, but not the rest.
Jeanne
“bidnezmen” – Great Southern term, one of my hubby’s favorites.
“Jorge worries then that someone might have seen them during the robbery, but LaFont says even so, they all had their faces covered up to their eyes.” I was hooting with laughter when I heard him say this, since we’ve all recognized the flaw in this logic long since. Apparently, he doesn’t keep enough mirrors handy.
“Then one of them brings up divvying up the loot in the dungeon. Jorge says the cash yes, but he nixes the jewels saying that someone might recognize them” DRAT! He’s been reading this blog! Now we’ll all have to analyze another direction.
“(This scene is so lame. Somebody shoot this writer, please?)” LOL! Agreed, it was not worth the film it wasted.
“Al manages to avoid a direct answer: “I would gladly give it all up just to have them back again.” (Are we gagging here?)” Yep, absolutely! I was not the least bit sorry to see him offed, however, I wish Claudio hadn’t been so visible in doing it. Still, we can assume that all will end well for Claudio. Carla Estrada wouldn’t off her own son in a big role like this, would she? ;-)
“Ric wonders why in the world Pablo didn’t bring the chests with the crew instead of with a caravan. (Sorry, Ric. That's why you're the captain and Pablo's still just one of the crew.)” LOL-yep. Pablo and the boys aren’t rocket scientists. Mario, yes, but not the rest.
Jeanne
Thanks for the excellent recap, Jardinera . Wow!!! This was an actionpacked episode. Talk about Murphy's Law !!!! I enjoyed seeing Fernando on a horse again...Does he always ride onehanded ??? I don't think I ever saw him use both hands riding in Alborada. Whataguy !!! I liked him taking charge of the situation with Claudio and acting like his father...that's a hero. [Julie ~~~Shades of Duncan and Richie in Highlander, no ???] Hmmm, Ric tells Camila that he's like ''a kid on his first date.'' I'd like to pose a question : I want you all to think back to your first date..... Okay, have you got that image in your head???... Now, was the guy anything like Ric??? [For Ferro, were YOU anything like Ric ???] As for me, my first date was too young to drive [14] , so we went out with his mother and sister to a play. Ralphie was not much like Ric, except for his dark hair and eyes. I think that at one point during the evening, he asked to copy my biology notes . Great recap...great episode. So, where will they go from here??? I think Pablo will eventually regain concsiousness and be able to tell Ric that it was Juancho. [Orlando/Juancho, you are finally going to get yours. Lazaro, you , too. ] I hope that Ric will find out who has his treasure and steal it right back !!! I love Mario, especially in his scenes with Ric. He is giving Edgar Laguardia a run for his money as best Fernando sidekick.] Thanks again, Jardinera..loved reading your recap, as always.
Permalink posted by : Tuesday, January 22, 2008 at 11:35:00 AM EST
: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 at 11:35:00 AM EST
I absolutely loved this episode. Action packed. Loved the short but sweet reunion between Ric and Camila and then it all falls apart. Poor Claudio. He got his revenge but is paying a high price for it. I also loved how after Ric screamed at him in frustration, he hugged him. I loved seeing angry Ric. Then finding out all his fortune is gone. Whew. Looking forward to tonights show.
Permalink posted by : Tuesday, January 22, 2008 at 11:38:00 AM EST
: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 at 11:38:00 AM EST
Aye caramba! Things are heating up: Vasco gets slimey, Ursula gets her claws out, Alvaro gets what he deserves, Ric & Cami get a tiny dose of happiness, Jimena & Mario almost get a little action going, Grita gets more annoying & poor Claudio gets the plot moving in a new direction...wow!
It's going to take a while to clean up all the anvils. I just hope they keep Ric on screen for every episode!
M from CT
It's going to take a while to clean up all the anvils. I just hope they keep Ric on screen for every episode!
M from CT
Permalink posted by : Tuesday, January 22, 2008 at 11:50:00 AM EST
: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 at 11:50:00 AM EST
Thanks Jardinera for your
"excellent as usual" recap. This is only my third novela. Although I really liked Mundo de fieras & Destilando, Pasion takes the prize. I love Ricardo and Santiago equally. So, I'm fortunate when Ric is away, Santiago seems to be more visible. Call me insane but I love his jealous tantrums. So far I'm not ready to fire the writers.
"excellent as usual" recap. This is only my third novela. Although I really liked Mundo de fieras & Destilando, Pasion takes the prize. I love Ricardo and Santiago equally. So, I'm fortunate when Ric is away, Santiago seems to be more visible. Call me insane but I love his jealous tantrums. So far I'm not ready to fire the writers.
Permalink posted by : Tuesday, January 22, 2008 at 11:51:00 AM EST
: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 at 11:51:00 AM EST
Did Ricardo say if he lays a hand on her he'll (Whorhey) be armless?
And what a shocking turn of events with the stabbing. Whorsela was already obsessed with our hero. Now she wants blood from Cami and degredation for Ricardo. Oh yeah, that's what her papa wants too.
Those moments between Ricardo and Claudio were magnificiently moving.
And what a shocking turn of events with the stabbing. Whorsela was already obsessed with our hero. Now she wants blood from Cami and degredation for Ricardo. Oh yeah, that's what her papa wants too.
Those moments between Ricardo and Claudio were magnificiently moving.
Permalink posted by : Tuesday, January 22, 2008 at 11:51:00 AM EST
: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 at 11:51:00 AM EST
I posted this at the end of the extended cast list. I haven't received an answer from anyone, so I thought I would repeat it here where more people will see it.
I would like to know the name of the actor playing Lazaro. I didn't see him on the cast list. Did I miss it? Does anyone know who the actor is?
I would like to know the name of the actor playing Lazaro. I didn't see him on the cast list. Did I miss it? Does anyone know who the actor is?
Permalink posted by : Tuesday, January 22, 2008 at 11:57:00 AM EST
: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 at 11:57:00 AM EST
Yes, Susanlynn, that scene with Ric hugging Claudio was sort of Duncan-and-Richie-esque!
I'm bummed that Alvaro is already gone! I was hoping we'd get to see him doing a little bit of "everything." I was also sorry to see Claudio crack. It was understandable, but I wish someone could have held him back.
Meanwhile, Bernabe is still champing at the bit for Vasco to get that blackmail in motion. If Cami goes to jail, they won't have a chance. Her imprisonment might actually work to her advantage!
I'm bummed that Alvaro is already gone! I was hoping we'd get to see him doing a little bit of "everything." I was also sorry to see Claudio crack. It was understandable, but I wish someone could have held him back.
Meanwhile, Bernabe is still champing at the bit for Vasco to get that blackmail in motion. If Cami goes to jail, they won't have a chance. Her imprisonment might actually work to her advantage!
Susanlynn/Mad Bess--I've thought and thought. Nope, I have to conclude, regrettably, that my first date neither looked nor behaved like Fernando Colunga. Drat.
Jeanne (feeling deprived)
Jeanne (feeling deprived)
It didn't cross my mind until last night but, Vasco's extortion plan would send Ascanio back into slavery status too! And Vasco at the fair, encouraging Ascanio to take an interest in Ines, then going off to look for his next score.
I really, really, really don't like this guy. Does the pie cart with scorpions and guns have a scheduled run?
I really, really, really don't like this guy. Does the pie cart with scorpions and guns have a scheduled run?
Permalink posted by : Tuesday, January 22, 2008 at 12:39:00 PM EST
: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 at 12:39:00 PM EST
Great recap! Great episode, too.
Alvaro didn't last long did he? I so wanted him to lose everything while he was alive. Darn!
I swooned when Ric told Camila he'd make Jorge a one-armed man if Jorge even touched her!! What a man!
Is that pearl necklace going to be significant? Was it Jorge who said he wanted to keep it, because if were on the market, it would be recognized? Oh boy, can't wait 'til his sidekick (his name escapes me) gives it to "La Ciega" - I think Ric might recognize it!
Alvaro didn't last long did he? I so wanted him to lose everything while he was alive. Darn!
I swooned when Ric told Camila he'd make Jorge a one-armed man if Jorge even touched her!! What a man!
Is that pearl necklace going to be significant? Was it Jorge who said he wanted to keep it, because if were on the market, it would be recognized? Oh boy, can't wait 'til his sidekick (his name escapes me) gives it to "La Ciega" - I think Ric might recognize it!
Permalink posted by : Tuesday, January 22, 2008 at 12:50:00 PM EST
: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 at 12:50:00 PM EST
Me 2 Anya. That pearl necklace is distitive and I suspect Rooster Head will pocket it anyway if Whorje doesn't give it to him.
Whorje does have brains to see it will be recognized but Rooster seems to despise all societal boundaries.
Which leads to my initial question of why he wants to marry La Ciega? I thought for a while that he may view her as the ultimate victim, a good replacement for abuse as he unloads his daughter. But that doesn't explain why he even THINKS of giving her a gift.
Whorje does have brains to see it will be recognized but Rooster seems to despise all societal boundaries.
Which leads to my initial question of why he wants to marry La Ciega? I thought for a while that he may view her as the ultimate victim, a good replacement for abuse as he unloads his daughter. But that doesn't explain why he even THINKS of giving her a gift.
Permalink posted by : Tuesday, January 22, 2008 at 1:49:00 PM EST
: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 at 1:49:00 PM EST
Thanks for the fabulous recap - and what a great episode! I loved the scene with the stab - a m a z i n g.
I enjoyed the Cami/Ric reunion. They have spent so much time apart that I really appreciate it when they are together.
Cami said that JorHEY could pardon Claudio. What? She should know better.
I am sure that Santi would like to offer his "support".
I can 't believe that the writers killed Al. They create an interesting villain and then they exterminate him. Again.
I am embarrased to ask but what Gawd means? Is it something like a pun for G*d? I have seen it again.
I enjoyed the Cami/Ric reunion. They have spent so much time apart that I really appreciate it when they are together.
Cami said that JorHEY could pardon Claudio. What? She should know better.
I am sure that Santi would like to offer his "support".
I can 't believe that the writers killed Al. They create an interesting villain and then they exterminate him. Again.
I am embarrased to ask but what Gawd means? Is it something like a pun for G*d? I have seen it again.
Permalink posted by : Tuesday, January 22, 2008 at 2:05:00 PM EST
: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 at 2:05:00 PM EST
Why LaFont wants to give Liz a gift - to impress her and make her more willing to consider him as a suitor? (I don't think he's aware of her lifelong crush on Ric.)
Or, he likes looking at the necklace and he can see it better if someone else is wearing it. (I'm sure he would never even consider giving something like that to his daughter.)
There's also the irony of giving a blind woman something she can't see. Or maybe he actually likes her and wants her to enjoy feeling its unusual shape.
I doubt that Ric would recognize most of the jewelry in those trunks. At most, he probably only ever glanced at the stuff when he first got it. So, naturally LaFont, with his flair for unsubtlety, manages to pick the most distinctive piece from the whole collection. Maybe he should just wear it in his hair and call it a day.
Or, he likes looking at the necklace and he can see it better if someone else is wearing it. (I'm sure he would never even consider giving something like that to his daughter.)
There's also the irony of giving a blind woman something she can't see. Or maybe he actually likes her and wants her to enjoy feeling its unusual shape.
I doubt that Ric would recognize most of the jewelry in those trunks. At most, he probably only ever glanced at the stuff when he first got it. So, naturally LaFont, with his flair for unsubtlety, manages to pick the most distinctive piece from the whole collection. Maybe he should just wear it in his hair and call it a day.
It might be that LaFont likes Liz because she's a bit like him.
I'm sure it's just me, but I find it hard to believe Ric is going to recognize a pearl necklace. Of course, this is supposing that they didn't inventory the treasure, or have any idea how many pearl necklaces there are. (Or count the coins, but that's another story.) But hey, it's telenovela land and it's possible that Ric is going to remember that necklace. Which is okay, because I'd love to see Ric make the Rooster head armless...
jb-Iron Jack Cash
I'm sure it's just me, but I find it hard to believe Ric is going to recognize a pearl necklace. Of course, this is supposing that they didn't inventory the treasure, or have any idea how many pearl necklaces there are. (Or count the coins, but that's another story.) But hey, it's telenovela land and it's possible that Ric is going to remember that necklace. Which is okay, because I'd love to see Ric make the Rooster head armless...
jb-Iron Jack Cash
Permalink posted by : Tuesday, January 22, 2008 at 2:51:00 PM EST
: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 at 2:51:00 PM EST
LOL Julie--you're a funny gal! He should wear the pearls in his hair, so they won't be recognized...
jb-Iron Jack Cash
jb-Iron Jack Cash
Permalink posted by : Tuesday, January 22, 2008 at 2:54:00 PM EST
: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 at 2:54:00 PM EST
Yeah...that pearl necklace that caught Lafont's eye gives a whole new meaning to the adage about ''Casting pearls before swine.''
Permalink posted by : Tuesday, January 22, 2008 at 2:59:00 PM EST
: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 at 2:59:00 PM EST
JB - have you seen the necklace? It's not some ordinary string of pearls. It's very distinctive. (I would say "ugly," but that's a matter of taste.)
I've been taping these shows to replay and catch all the dialog, since this show seems to be more difficult for me. But you're right Julie, those are quite large baubbles. Not easily forgotten...
jb-Iron Jack Cash
jb-Iron Jack Cash
Permalink posted by : Tuesday, January 22, 2008 at 3:55:00 PM EST
: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 at 3:55:00 PM EST
Thanks, folks. Glad you read it! That you actually enjoy it is always a plus.
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--Now. The big vocabulary/grammar question for this episodio seems to be "manco." What Ric says is, "Lo dejo manco." ("I'll leave him one handed/armed." See below and take your pick.) As for the questionable translation, I figured that since he had just said, "If he lays a hand on you again....." it only made sense to follow through with hand as the operative translation. Owing to a need for a bit of literary license and flow, I was of the opinion that the best visual would be Jorge handless with our favorite pirate dumping said hacked off appendage into the ocean as finely chopped fish food: thus, "minced chum." Sorry, guys, but if you want literal, you're gonna have to cut and paste on Free Translations or Babel Fish. When I'm in my black beret and smoking my cheroot, I have to let the arteest in me have sway. >8 3)
From Word Reference Diccionario Espasa Concise: Español-Inglés English-Spanish
© Espasa-Calpe, S.A., Madrid 2000
manco:
Del verbo mancar: (conjugar)
manco,-a
I adjetivo
1 (sin brazo) one-armed
(sin mano) one-handed
2 (sin brazos) armless
(sin manos) handless
3 (incompleto) incomplete
II m,f (sin mano) one-handed person
(sin brazo) one-armed person
(sin brazos) armless person
(sin manos) handless person
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--Now. The big vocabulary/grammar question for this episodio seems to be "manco." What Ric says is, "Lo dejo manco." ("I'll leave him one handed/armed." See below and take your pick.) As for the questionable translation, I figured that since he had just said, "If he lays a hand on you again....." it only made sense to follow through with hand as the operative translation. Owing to a need for a bit of literary license and flow, I was of the opinion that the best visual would be Jorge handless with our favorite pirate dumping said hacked off appendage into the ocean as finely chopped fish food: thus, "minced chum." Sorry, guys, but if you want literal, you're gonna have to cut and paste on Free Translations or Babel Fish. When I'm in my black beret and smoking my cheroot, I have to let the arteest in me have sway. >8 3)
From Word Reference Diccionario Espasa Concise: Español-Inglés English-Spanish
© Espasa-Calpe, S.A., Madrid 2000
manco:
Del verbo mancar: (conjugar)
manco,-a
I adjetivo
1 (sin brazo) one-armed
(sin mano) one-handed
2 (sin brazos) armless
(sin manos) handless
3 (incompleto) incomplete
II m,f (sin mano) one-handed person
(sin brazo) one-armed person
(sin brazos) armless person
(sin manos) handless person
Thanks for the recap Jardinera. Wow I can't believe that Uncle Al (such a great name Ferro but now he's dead) is gone. Not that he didn't deserve it but I'm sad that Claudio will be banished until the truth comes out.
Julie and Susanlynn, pearls, swine and LaFont - priceless!!
Julie and Susanlynn, pearls, swine and LaFont - priceless!!
Susanlynn,
I don't really recall what my first date might have been, as it was over 20 years ago and I'm not even sure who it was with. I imagine there was a horrible peachfuzz moustache, long hair (it was the 80s), and 90% of my attention being focused on how sweaty my hands were and praying to God I didn't have to burp or fart. So, no, it was nothing like Ric.
NJSUE - you asked if there is really a man alive like Ric? The answer is, of course, no. Unfortunately him being a character on TV just gives the rest of us a chance to look poor in comparison. While I may not be a swashbuckling pirate, at least I'm not bringing home 50 different STDs from visiting bordellos. That has to count for something!
Excellent recap of an action packed episode. I think this is the beginning of the next act of this production. Part I was the beginning of the show, Part II was Camila's return, now this kicks off part III. Many storylines were kicked off or kicked up a notch all in one episode.
I agree with Tani - this is a great show. I have seen some real dogs over the last year or so, this one is infinitely better. Maybe not the best ever for some of you who have been watching novelas longer, but for a lot of us this is the best one in a while. I didn't see Destilando Amor, from what I understand that was really great too. And I only saw a couple episodes of Zorro and that looked good too. I'm hoping for a DVD of that one, if anyone finds something on that please let us all know.
I don't really recall what my first date might have been, as it was over 20 years ago and I'm not even sure who it was with. I imagine there was a horrible peachfuzz moustache, long hair (it was the 80s), and 90% of my attention being focused on how sweaty my hands were and praying to God I didn't have to burp or fart. So, no, it was nothing like Ric.
NJSUE - you asked if there is really a man alive like Ric? The answer is, of course, no. Unfortunately him being a character on TV just gives the rest of us a chance to look poor in comparison. While I may not be a swashbuckling pirate, at least I'm not bringing home 50 different STDs from visiting bordellos. That has to count for something!
Excellent recap of an action packed episode. I think this is the beginning of the next act of this production. Part I was the beginning of the show, Part II was Camila's return, now this kicks off part III. Many storylines were kicked off or kicked up a notch all in one episode.
I agree with Tani - this is a great show. I have seen some real dogs over the last year or so, this one is infinitely better. Maybe not the best ever for some of you who have been watching novelas longer, but for a lot of us this is the best one in a while. I didn't see Destilando Amor, from what I understand that was really great too. And I only saw a couple episodes of Zorro and that looked good too. I'm hoping for a DVD of that one, if anyone finds something on that please let us all know.
Sophia from Greece: You're correct about the pun.
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Mad Bess/Susanlynn: I try very hard NOT to remember the kid who took me out on that first date, and I don't doubt that feeling is mutual! But as usual, your little sidetrips back into history leave my sides hurting, I'm laughing so hard.....
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Mad Marley Grey/shadow: "a pardon for a poking" LOL! --Now THAT pithy phrase takes me back aways, and to a few states further south.
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NJSUE/cap'n bonney morgan: You're right about Carla's kid. In fact, that crying and his anguish-filled interaction with Fer in those last scenes was extremely moving. He is definitely due a few kudos.
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Mad Bess/Susanlynn: I try very hard NOT to remember the kid who took me out on that first date, and I don't doubt that feeling is mutual! But as usual, your little sidetrips back into history leave my sides hurting, I'm laughing so hard.....
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Mad Marley Grey/shadow: "a pardon for a poking" LOL! --Now THAT pithy phrase takes me back aways, and to a few states further south.
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NJSUE/cap'n bonney morgan: You're right about Carla's kid. In fact, that crying and his anguish-filled interaction with Fer in those last scenes was extremely moving. He is definitely due a few kudos.
I loved Destilando. Mostly for the bitchery, the tequila lessons, the badness of the bad people, and the cell phone abuse.
On the other hand, some of the characters were maddeningly stupid or clueless, there were some annoying red herrings, some of the anvils could have fallen more spectacularly, and I'm not happy that certain people (Isadora's parents) didn't get what they deserved.
Eh, nothing's perfect. It was still a lot of fun. But I think Pasion has been better so far, in terms of quality and entertainment. (Except for the crazy editing where a person will be in one place in one scene, then in a completely different place in the very next scene. People on Star Trek don't beam down that fast!)
When it comes to literal translations - I'm with Jardinera. A literal translation is dry and painfully stilted. Dictionary definitions seldom capture the nuance of context and such.
As for "manco," I probably would have copped out and said something vague like "maimed" and let the esteemed Caray Caray Brain Trust debate the specifics. I've found that dissecting colorful words is one of our funnest pastimes. :)
On the other hand, some of the characters were maddeningly stupid or clueless, there were some annoying red herrings, some of the anvils could have fallen more spectacularly, and I'm not happy that certain people (Isadora's parents) didn't get what they deserved.
Eh, nothing's perfect. It was still a lot of fun. But I think Pasion has been better so far, in terms of quality and entertainment. (Except for the crazy editing where a person will be in one place in one scene, then in a completely different place in the very next scene. People on Star Trek don't beam down that fast!)
When it comes to literal translations - I'm with Jardinera. A literal translation is dry and painfully stilted. Dictionary definitions seldom capture the nuance of context and such.
As for "manco," I probably would have copped out and said something vague like "maimed" and let the esteemed Caray Caray Brain Trust debate the specifics. I've found that dissecting colorful words is one of our funnest pastimes. :)
You know, something tells me that the gaudy bauble pearl neclace was near the top of the heap for a reason. I can't remember if Mario and Ric looked at it back in the sugar shack hide-away by the bay or not. Could be though, that Ric put it on top of the pile specifically to give to Cami if and when he had a reason. So, you all may be right that Buffy Bouffant is in for a real surprise once Ric sees it on Lis.
I have to join the standing ovation for Carlos Lopez Estrada in this episode. Bravo. When he was hugging Ofelia and wandering through the fair, he seemed like a lonely, motherless boy and the killing was done in a daze. The scene with Ric, the tears and desperation, perfect. This kid really makes you feel for his character.
In fact, this episode had everything: Ric, sexy on horseback, romantic with Cami and protective with Claudio. Plus all the drama with the hijacked fortune. I don't think I've been as engaged in a novela scene since Alborada. I loved how all the men as well as the women are so caring with Claudio. I'm wondering what will happen to Claudio's family's wealth now that Alvaro is dead and he is a fugitive.
In fact, this episode had everything: Ric, sexy on horseback, romantic with Cami and protective with Claudio. Plus all the drama with the hijacked fortune. I don't think I've been as engaged in a novela scene since Alborada. I loved how all the men as well as the women are so caring with Claudio. I'm wondering what will happen to Claudio's family's wealth now that Alvaro is dead and he is a fugitive.
I'm glad that there are more favorable comments about this Telenovela now - because even tho' I still don't think the opening music and intro do the show justice - something happens every episode to move the story forward . . . and last night, the story moved a lot. I just hope it doesn't get bogged down in time wasting like most of the others do in the middle of the telenovela's run.
Permalink posted by : Tuesday, January 22, 2008 at 6:11:00 PM EST
: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 at 6:11:00 PM EST
I wonder if Ascanio o o will find Claudio's nana so that she can testify that Alvaro sold the boys into slavery and killed their mother. She saw it all unfold. I'm sure that in the end, truth and justice will prevail and Claudio will assume his rightful position and wealth. And then, Ascanio o o can be his CEO and live large.
Permalink posted by : Tuesday, January 22, 2008 at 6:57:00 PM EST
: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 at 6:57:00 PM EST
Jardinera/Cousin Cash
"Sorry, guys, but if you want literal, you're gonna have to cut and paste on Free Translations or Babel Fish. When I'm in my black beret and smoking my cheroot, I have to let the arteest in me have sway. >8 3)"
It's the recapper's privilege...interpret into English instead of simply translate. We do it in America Sign Language all the time. Look at intent, not exact words. I loved it! Thanks for the vocab and grammar lesson!
Everyone's comments are so diverting today, too. Thanks everyone!
Jeanne
"Sorry, guys, but if you want literal, you're gonna have to cut and paste on Free Translations or Babel Fish. When I'm in my black beret and smoking my cheroot, I have to let the arteest in me have sway. >8 3)"
It's the recapper's privilege...interpret into English instead of simply translate. We do it in America Sign Language all the time. Look at intent, not exact words. I loved it! Thanks for the vocab and grammar lesson!
Everyone's comments are so diverting today, too. Thanks everyone!
Jeanne
Fabulous recap, as always.
well, you can sign me up for the Claudio Defense Team. that was a killer scene, as they say.
I am still finding Cami a little too teary eyed.
V.V.
well, you can sign me up for the Claudio Defense Team. that was a killer scene, as they say.
I am still finding Cami a little too teary eyed.
V.V.
Permalink posted by : Tuesday, January 22, 2008 at 8:19:00 PM EST
: Tuesday, January 22, 2008 at 8:19:00 PM EST
You go ahead Jardinera! Do you arteest thing knowing I lov ya' work!
Permalink posted by : Thursday, January 24, 2008 at 12:18:00 PM EST
: Thursday, January 24, 2008 at 12:18:00 PM EST
Anonymous, I'm in agreement. Camila is at times too teary-eyed.
I'm posting late because I am behind in watching these episodes. But it finally dawned on my who she reminds me of--the simpering Jane Seymour of Dr. Quinn Medicine Woman (another period drama, of course). Does anyone else see the resemblance? It's been gnawing at me for weeks, and while watching this episode, I finally thought of it.
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I'm posting late because I am behind in watching these episodes. But it finally dawned on my who she reminds me of--the simpering Jane Seymour of Dr. Quinn Medicine Woman (another period drama, of course). Does anyone else see the resemblance? It's been gnawing at me for weeks, and while watching this episode, I finally thought of it.
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