Sunday, January 06, 2008

Pasion Friday Jan 4 - Lis is the designated cryer today

Margaret’s recording yesterday apparently ended just before the shock ending –as everyone is sitting around the table eating and drinking, Rita shows up like a huge wet blanket. She says hello to everyone and you can see the icicles in the air from her voice. The sound guy knows that she’s pissed off too. The whole table is impactado.

Today – Ofelia welcomes Rita, Camila introduces her friends, and Santiago rather nicely tries to help her to a seat. Rita immediately turns bitchy and says she has a headache and runs inside. This of course was a total Debbie Downer moment, the party IMMEDIATELY breaks up. I mean in like .0005 seconds. After they all leave, Ofelia asks Santiago why Rita was being so rude and says she is going to talk to her. Santiago says no, he will. Uh oh I feel a fight coming on (no I’m not psychic I saw it in the preview last night).

Jorge tells La Font all about when he and Ric discovered together that the ED card was missing. They speculate on who could have taken the card. They say that Ric could marry Camila and get the inheritance that way. Ursula shows up and says she hopes they aren’t talking about the same thing AGAIN. She of course wants him invited over to dinner, Jorge tells her that Ric is out of town.

Santiago and Rita have a big fight and she says he still loves her, he admits it. First of course he tries to play the whole “she’s your sister you should be nice to her” card but then he just says fine, he still loves her. He says if she can tell him how to get over her, he’d be glad to hear it. She says she wants Camila to move far away, Santiago says who died and made her queen? Rita says that it’s the only way she (Rita) and Saintly can be as they were before. Oh – about the nickname Saintly, I saw someone give me credit for that in yesterday’s comments, I did not create it. I completely ripped it off from someone but I can’t remember who, it may have even been in the comments. Thank you for the credit, but I can’t take it. I can only propagate the usage of it. Saintly wrinkles his nose at Rita and stomps off.

Ric and Mario ride horses through the countryside, Ric says Lazaro is going to pay dearly. Mario calls Lazaro ambitious, Ric says there is a difference between being ambitious and being a traitor. Then they discuss the missing ED card.

Vasco shows up at the palacio with a gift of perfume for Ursula. When Ursula gets it, she tells her friend to tell Vasco to meet her at the place where they met before. Is Virginia the other girl’s name? I know she is La Font’s daughter but I can’t remember her name.

Camila and posse get home and her entourage can’t believe Rita’s behavior. Camila tries to defend her, but gets choked up talking about it and runs into the house. Ascanio doesn’t offer any opinion and Jimena snaps at him, Ascanio sulks off. Jimena wants to know what his problem is, he shouldn’t have any problems here. Claudio sagely tells her that everyone has problems. Jimena says sure, but time heals wounds. Claudio has turned the conversation to himself and says his situation is so bad who knows if he’ll recover.

Rita whines and cries to Justo about the whole Santiago/Camila thing. Yawn. This part has grown tiresome. Rita begs Justo to find a husband for Camila and he agrees. More to shut her up than anything I think, he doesn’t look thrilled about it. Anybody else feel like they would all put Rita on a boat and push her away from shore and let Camila and Santiago get back together and never speak of it again if they could?

Ursula meets Vasco out by the river and flirts with him madly, he feels like he has the green light. He’s a little over confident, she is pumping him for gossip. She wants to know if Ric visited Camila, since he’s her fiancé and all. Vasco says that Ric himself told him that he was NOT in any relationship with Ursula. She says that Ric wouldn’t waste the time to talk to someone as low class as Vasco, then tells him that maybe it isn’t official yet but they are going to get married. She leaves Vasco standing there dumbfounded. Wow he has horrible hair.

La Font reports to Jorge that he can’t get any info from anyone in the house about the ED card, it is a complete mystery. Then he says that there will be a caravan tonight, they are going to attack it at a different location. La Font then catches Lis coming downstairs alone, Fran is sleeping. She wants to know if anyone found the ED card, La Font tells her no and offers his handkerchief when she starts crying. He tells her that nothing happens in this town without him knowing about it, so she doesn’t need to worry. Justo shows up to see Sofia, he and La Font glare at each other a Justo goes upstairs. La Font then gives Lis the lowdown on who Justo is and that he is friends with Sofia. Lis is worried that Sofia will help Camila because of her friendship with her (and her non-affair love affair with Justo, I’m convinced that 40 years ago they were in love or something and they have been doing a Camila/Saintly yearning from afar thing ever since). La Font tells Lis that she just might try and help Camila.

Upstairs Sofia tells Justo that she herself is the one who stole the ED card. Sofia hints that Jorge is helping Camila because he wants, well, you know. Justo gasps in a very effeminate manner, reminding me of Granillo, the big fat gay guy from Duelo de Pasiones. Sofia tells him to tell Camila not to worry though, SHE is the one who stole the Erectile Dysfunction card. He says how? She says she went in to the women’s room, took it, and left.

Justo immediately shows up at Camila’s house, where Jimena bitches at the chismosa servant some more. She tells Justo that she doesn’t like that servant. I wonder if she were part of this kind of household before, with how quickly she started bossing around the servants here after moving in. Jimena tells Justo to sit with her outside as Camila is currently hosting Don Jorge inside.

Inside, Camila keeps pulling away from Jorge’s groping hands. I know he isn’t being secretive about his motives, but jeez you’d think he would act a little gentlemanly to put her at ease before making his move. Nope, he keeps grabbing at her hands and hair. Loser. He is also pushing the idea on her about getting married. She reminds him that she was GOING TO, before he messed it up. And she can’t yet think about other men. He says she should enjoy things of her new class, for instance he’s having a party for the muckety mucks next Friday and she should come.

Outside Justo insists to Jimena that Camila isn’t alone, she has him. Jimena very rudely points out that he wasn’t able to help her the last time, when she got carted off by La

Font before her wedding night, what is he going to do now? This cuts like a knife and Jimena actually looks like she regrets saying it, for a second at least. She apologizes. She explains that while he is a man about town, Jorge is in a higher and more powerful position to help Camila. Camila walks Jorge to the door, then greets Justo as Jimena leaves. Justo tells Camila to listen to Jimena, she has more sense than the other women in town. Yes yes, she’s great, I love her, says Camila. Justo says Jimena obviously loves her back. They sit down to chat.

At the palace, Sofia still thinks a party is inappropriate, but Jorge say whatever, I don’t care, we’re partying. Sofia gives in and starts writing down the guest list, consisting mostly of Jorge’s loser friends, then he says he wants to invite Camila. Fortunata asks about Ricardo, Jorge says of course. Oh, and also Camila’s friend, Jimena.

Justo starts going on about Saintly and Rita again with Camila. He says she needs to find a husband. It would solve the Rita thing, as well as letting her escape the future Jorge has planned for her.

Inside, Jimena tries to talk Camila into marrying the rich, handsome Ricardo. They then discuss how they both know without a doubt that he and Captain Ric are the same thing. Camila says if Ric won’t marry her, she’ll find some other nice guy, Jimena says “oh yeah I know him, Don Nobody.” So even hundreds of years ago women were irrational man-haters. Good to know.

La Font and his band of merry men wait in the shadows as a caravan approaches. This caravan is way more heavily protected, so they don’t know what they will do. Before they can decide, the caravan is attacked by another group of men, bloodthirsty pirates led by Juancho (Orlando of Duelo, Mario of Amar). One of La Font’s flunkies describes them as ‘beasts’ as we see Juancho slit one guy’s throat and pull his head back to expose the wound. The pirates kill everyone and steal the caravan.

Back at Jorge’s, La Font delivers the news, Jorge thinks maybe Foreman cut out the middleman. Jorge wants to explain what happened to Foreman, La Font (who I think is embarrassed by being upstaged by the pirates) tries to dissuade him, but Jorge says the next time La Font goes to meet with Foreman, Jorge is going with him. He says he’s a better diplomat than La Font so he wants to talk to Foreman himself. La Font wants to know what about, Jorge tells him not to worry, he’ll be involved.

Mario and Ric, on horseback, look at a beach. Mario says there is another bay not far that is better, they go to see it. They arrive there and get off their horses to sneak up and see what’ sgoing on. They see some pirates on the beach, then they see a whole pirate village, complete with guys fighting and women all around. Some woman they call La Paisana is there, they recognize her. She seems to be in charge. Then they also see Juancho, who is wearing bright red clothing so we don’t miss him. Ric and Mario decide that the pirates have stolen goods. Mario thinks Foreman is probably behind whatever they are doing, Ric agrees. He sees horses and mules that he says are surely stolen, they have brands but he can’t make out what they are (they have been passing a spyglass back and forth all this time during their spying).

Justo goes to Santiago’s shop, saying hello to the porno twins as well. He asks Santiago to make him a new money box, one that is stronger with a better lock. My accountant heart flutters at this talk, it’s about time someone took cash security seriously. Santiago suggest making a small heavy cabinet for the money. Are we supposed to believe that Saintly invented what will eventually become the safe? Justo immediately changes the subject to Rita, then says he’s going to look for a husband for Camila. Saintly is obviously angry but say Justo has the right. Justo says he recommended Saintly to someone else as a blacksmith, Saintly says fine, then when Justo leaves he throws some stuff around. Does he expect Camila to just sit around, or what? They aren’t even having an affair. With Vasco, he at least has a reason to be jealous when Ursula dumped him, Santiago has no right.

Camila and her new little family talk about what to do with themselves. Ascanio wants to DO something, not just mooch. He used to work in a bakery, so Camila says they’ll open a bakery. Ascanio says no, then he’ll still be just their employee, it’s no different. He’s awfully mopey today. He doesn’t want Camila to make his father hire him either. Camila says whatever. Jimena says Claudio can live the life of a Seniorito, riding horses, learning to fight with swords, etc. Claudio says he can’t forget that he has to exact vengeance for his family. Jimena says hey you know who could help? Ricardo! Camila tries to play it off, but Ascanio says that if she asks, Ric will help her. She asks why, does Ascanio know something that she doesn’t? Ascanio just says that Ric is a gentleman and always delivers what he promises. Claudio is muy excited and wants to meet Ric.

Fran and Lis find Ursula so Lis can apologize. Ursula is bitchy, Lis tries to explain that she wasn’t trying to insult Ursula, just that…. Ursula cuts her off and calls Lis out completely – she is in love with Ric but he doesn’t love her the same way, or.. have they already gotten busy? Lis says of course not. She starts crying, Ursula insults her and says that whoever Ric marries, it won’t be some blind woman. She continues by saying that even when she recovers her inheritance, she’ll still just be a poor blind woman who can’t satisfy a man like Ric. Finally she says if Lis wants some guy, Ursula can find her one, the she laughs and walks away. Lis destroys the flowers in her hand in rage, Fran tries to calm her down.

Jorge is sitting on what passes for his throne, a chair in the main room of his palace. There are a line of people waiting to see him about something. Ursula barges in and says she needs to talk to him. Jorge tells Marcelino, the fussy administrator, to just tell all the people that they have permission to get married, and get them out of here. He and Ursula go to another room, where Ursula tells Jorge that he is the one who said that ‘he’ (Ric?) would make a good husband. Jorge says “You like him!” Ursula says of course. Jorge says fine, but she better not cheat on him or there will be trouble. She says she won’t cheat but she won’t let him treat her poorly either. Jorge says good, you seem ready. He advises her to use her intelligence to keep her husband in line, like Sofia. Ursula laughs but Jorge says it’s true, he thinks he can do whatever he wants but in the end somehow Sofia ends up getting her way, Ursula should learn from her. I was taken aback by this attack of honesty from Jorge. I don’t even see him as the true villain of this show any more, La Font holds that position. Surprisingly, the other ‘bad guys’ are the mostly harmless Fran and Lis. Without them, there wouldn’t be any trouble brewing.

Lis blubbers and cries about getting totally owned by Ursula in their verbal sparring match earlier. Fran calls Ursula a pig, I was half expecting for Ursula to be in the background overhearing this too. Maybe I’ve seen too many sitcoms.

Ines and Ofelia visit Camila, Ines gets sent off to visit with the others so Camila and Ofelia can talk. She says that she really likes Jimena and Claudio, when Camila says “What about Ascanio?” she just says “eh.” Camila asks Ofelia what that was all about and Ofelia says Ascanio obviously likes Ines a bit but Ines, well…. Camila says yes, she has been and still is in love with Vasco. Camila says her brother is so guapo, but for Ines she wouldn’t recommend him, Ofelia says that Santiago told her the same thing. So everyone knows that Vasco is a god for nothing, it seems. I predict him falling in with the wrong crowd and managing to hurt (physically or emotionally) one of our heroes at some point. Like maybe he’ll join Juancho’s band of pirates and end up robbing his own father’s store. Well, actually, just joining them at all would be bad because they are the ones who kidnapped his sister. Also, before we move on, I wouldn’t refer to Ofelia as one of the ‘sexy’ ladies on this show, but she really loves to put her breasts on display. I guess she’s a widow, still trying to attract some guy, rather than just acting like the other middle aged people in the town. Maybe that’s why Justo keeps hanging around – “hmmm let me go over to Ofelia’s and ogle her boobies for a bit.” Anyway, Ofelia wants to know how Camila is doing about everything. Camila says she understands about Santiago marrying Rita and there’s nothing that can be done about it. Ofelia feels guilty about it, she says if only Camila had sent a note or something. Camila says she sent one to her father, but it must not have made it. This is at least the third mention of “why didn’t you send a note” so it is written IN STONE that the card will come back alive at some point and Rita will go down. Then I guess Camila will have to make a choice between Ric and Santiago. Ofelia says that she’s sure that Camila will find a nice guy to marry soon.

When Ofellia and Ines leave, Ines says that she always liked Camila better than Rita, even though Rita got nicer after she married Santiago, but now she’s even worse than before. Ines says that Camila still loves Santiago, or Santiago loves Camila, or something like that, basically she says that hope never dies. Ofelia says shut your mouth, but Ines says no, always have hope. In this case, having that hope means that nobody will be happy. Camila will stay alone while Saintly and Rita continue their loveless marriage.

Ofelia tells Santiago that she loves Vasco like a son, but they need to find some other guy to marry Ines. Santiago says yes, what about Ascanio? Ofelia says they don’t know enough about him and besides, he lives with Camila. For Ines, she wants someone independent an successful. Hmmm how interesting that this comes up the very same time that Ascanio gripes about being a kept man. Santiago says he can ask Camila more about Ascanio, Ofelia accuses him of finding excuses to go see her. He says for crying out loud they live in the same town, she is his sister-in-law, are they supposed to pretend the other doesn’t exist? Ofelia says no, but they need to stay away from each other for the greater good. Saintly gripes that it’s no good. He makes some metaphor about Christ, to which Ofelia says “you’re not Christ” but I didn’t get it.

Ric and Mario get back to town, Ric is going to go see Camila. He says he’s going to tell her the truth. Which truth, I don’t know. Mario says she is going to denounce him, Ric says maybe, but whatever, he has to tell her the truth. Mario sees Jimena walking along, he tells the porter at the hotel to take care of his horse and take his stuff to his room, then adds menacingly “without stealing anything!” The porter is insulted and says that isn’t necessary to say, he is honorable. Mario chases after Jimena and catches up with her. She is very scared of him, but he says he just wants to talk. She says about what, your boss ‘El Antillano’? He says yes. She says what lies are you going to tell me, that he turned into a saint? Mario says no, just the truth. If she doesn’t like what he says, whatever.

Monday – you ladies can get all in a tizzy as Captain Ric turns on the bedroom charm and tells Camila that he is falling in love with her, as well as admitting his true identity. Then, just to make trouble, Santiago somewhere out in the open finds Camila and kisses her, which Ric sees, so they have to fight about it. Whew!

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Ferro, your recaps always have such a diverting flair to them—thanks!

“Rita immediately turns bitchy and says she has a headache and runs inside. This of course was a total Debbie Downer moment, the party IMMEDIATELY breaks up. I mean in like .0005 seconds.” ROTFL! It was a little jolting to see how fast she could effect this aguafiestas ploy. Gee, they had barely raised their glasses for a toast!

Thanks for clarifying the “Saintly” reference. Kudos to whoever did come up with it. He’s definitely too good to be true. Mostly.

“Anybody else feel like they would all put Rita on a boat and push her away from shore and let Camila and Santiago get back together and never speak of it again if they could?” Yep, and I’ll start taking up a collection for it if you think we can get rid of her.

“She leaves Vasco standing there dumbfounded. Wow he has horrible hair.” LOL! My thoughts exactly. Ursula probably has noticed, too. When she wasn’t looking in the mirror.

“Sofia will help Camila because of her friendship with her (and her non-affair love affair with Justo, I’m convinced that 40 years ago they were in love or something and they have been doing a Camila/Saintly yearning from afar thing ever since).” Yep, you have to be right about this. All the signs point to it, Ferro.

“Justo gasps in a very effeminate manner, reminding me of Granillo, the big fat gay guy from Duelo de Pasiones.” ROTFLLLLL!!! That’s it!

“I wonder if she were part of this kind of household before, with how quickly she started bossing around the servants here after moving in.” Wow, Ferro, good call. That would make perfect sense; I’d wondered about that, too. She wouldn’t tell Camila what she had been doing before she was kidnapped and sold.

“Jimena says “oh yeah I know him, Don Nobody.” So even hundreds of years ago women were irrational man-haters. Good to know.” Probably more back then than there are now. ;-)

“He asks Santiago to make him a new money box, one that is stronger with a better lock. My accountant heart flutters at this talk, it’s about time someone took cash security seriously.” ROTFLLL!!! Who would have thought accountants were such rigid people? (Now that I’ve heard you guys weigh in on this, I’m cutting my Director of Business Operations more slack here).

“Ursula is bitchy, Lis tries to explain that she wasn’t trying to insult Ursula” I was up in arms when I saw this scene. As much as I dislike the character of Lisabeta for playing a spoiled person who uses her blindness to manipulate, Ursula in this scene did at least one thing that was totally unforgivable from the perspective of someone who has worked with blind folks for 35 years—she smacked Lis on the shoulder, which of course Lis couldn’t see coming. That is the ultimate violation of a blind person’s dignity and rights—touching without warning or permission, specifically in a derogatory or other negative way. It causes a real fear of future such incidents and never knowing when one is going to be touched inappropriately. It can bring about increased timidity and distrust of sighted people, particularly those one doesn’t know well and is unsure of. It really ticked me off and now I want to see Ursula lined up for the whirlpool or the quicksand pit in Duelo. She’s my first candidate. Better yet, let’s send her off with Juancho and the boys.

Jeanne
 

Excellent recap. It's heating up. Looking forward to Ric's meeting with Camila when he tells her the truth and let the fireworks begin LOL.
 

Jimena can be blunt and tactless, but I still find her practical, unsentimental approach refreshing. She was making the point that a "Don Nobody" would not be able to protect Camila from Jorge any more than Saintly or Justo had been able to. Sad but true. But Jorge would not dare to mess with Camila if she were Mrs. Ric (or La Senora Somebody).

I was glad for all the detail in this recap. I wasn't too clear what was going on with the La Font, Foreman, Jorge pirate stuff.
 

Ines's comment about hope had me a little confused, too. Their only "hope" would be for Rita to drop dead. Only then could Cami and Saintly be together. And ironically, Cami's probably the only person who would really feel badly about it, because unlike Rita, she wouldn't feel good about profiting from her sister's misfortune.

I wonder how far Rita would go to keep Saintly to herself?

Man, they can't find that torn-up letter soon enough.

I hadn't thought of it before, but you're right, Jorge really isn't the big villain. He's a pitiful loser and a creep, he's greedy and he wants to get into Cami's pants in whatever way possible, yet he's still not hardly the most malevolent person in her life. Yikes.
 

Dread Pirate Cash, you never fail to satisfy. What a scathing and delightful recap! I also appreciate your detail, some of those conversations were very confusing to me.

I find Jorge's comment (about Sofia always winning in the end) very interesting. Sofia's character hasn't been developed too well yet and I'm anxious for her to come into her own. Mariana Karr is such a wonderful actress, I can't wait! Yep, she and Justo the wimp definitely have a past.

Schoolmarm-in-black, thanks for your input about Ursula's physical violation of Lis. Based on what you said the scene, which already creeped me out, became much more intense. The actress who plays Lis did a great job with her reaction. Actually, both actresses are good. I think Lis is much more diabolical than she lets on and Ursula may come to wish she were in the Duelo whirlpool before Lis is done with her. I hope!

Hey, wasn't there a pirate queen in Alborada? Now there appears to be another pirate woman in charge. I think Carla Estrada should have a pirate queen in all her productions, never too many for me. I hope this one gets in some swordfights and seriously kicks some male you-know-what, not that I'm an irrational man hater or anything. (heh heh)

Woohoo, Ric's gonna get all romantic on Monday. Be still my heart!

Thanks Dread Pirate Cash, another winning recap!!
 

Cap'n Sharkbait --

"I think Lis is much more diabolical than she lets on and Ursula may come to wish she were in the Duelo whirlpool before Lis is done with her. I hope!"

I agree. Lis probably has some great tricks up her sleeve--some she may never even have considered. Just let her get Ursula in a Really Dark Room and see what happens. Lis will have the upper hand, so to speak.

Jeanne
 

I suspect that Fernando has a fair amount of talent in addition to being attractive. I started watching "Alborada" again, having just recently watched "Amor Real" also.

"Ricardo" in Pasion is a darker character (so, Fernando is not a two dimensional guy). Certainly, the Ric character has appeal and a link to redemption, but self preservation isn't always obtained through shiny armor ways.

Fernando's chemistry with co-characters is again obvious. The actor playing Mario does a great job and is convincing as a worthy partner as Ernesto Laguardia was.

I'm a fan of Suzanna in other roles, but I miss Lucero.
 

Dread Ferro~~~Thanks for the great recap. I always get a kick out of your point of view. [i.e. Ofelia's many charms]. She does have the girls right out there on display, whereas her daughter Ines is pretty covered up in comparison. I think that Melinama dubbed Santiago as Saintly. As for Ascaniooo being a ''kept man''..............................sorry, I drifted off there...where was I ??? I'm glad that all the accountants are feeling relieved now that Saintly and the twins will be making a big, solid safe for Justo's cash. I'll have to make hub watch from now on since people on this show are becoming more ''fiscally responsible''[a term he's been known to use on occasion]. Ursula is a nasty piece of work. She is going to be muy disappointed when she finds out that the lovely Ric is not interested in her. I am looking forward to Ric punching out Saintly. So, will Ric be considered the answer for everyone asking ''Who can we get to marry Camila???'' There aren't a lot of other prospects around town except Ascaniooo, La Font [ugh], and the twins.
 

Good recap, cuzzin Dread Pirate Cash! I'm all for letting Rita float away, and I hope Cami gets with Ric. Santiago was named Santi because he "was" too good to be true. Now he's just a loser.

Re: Jimena's bossing the help around unnecessarily is true. But, I will add that being nosy and a gossip are really bad traits for (anyone!) a servant.

Yippee, cash security! I'm no accountant, but being in finance, I don't think you're rigid people-just smart ;-)

I think the card will resurface miraculously as you said. Lucky for us, Cami used perma-ink.

Thanks for more good info, cuzzin Capt Jenny Cash. For me, Ursula was already in line for the quicksand pit, but after she touched Liz, she moved to first in line...
jb-Iron Jack Cash
 

Thanks, ferro, and most appreciated. Some pretty funny thought processing in that head of yours........
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In regard to Saintly's talk with his momma about the big A (adultery), he figures Cami is essentially his personal cross to bear: he made a reference to Jesus knowing what to expect of Calvary, I believe, and felt that if Jesus could overcome the odds the way he did, then Santiago felt he could as well. So that's why Momma O said her son isn't Christ.
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Now GRita needs to meet up with Juancho for a possible long walk off a short plank. I wonder how many times by now Santi has wished it was her the kidnappers took instead of Camila.
 

Mad Bess Susanlynn, I think the doublemint porno twins would do very nicely for Cami. She'd have two so it's not like she'd ever have to make up her mind or anything. And they do seem like an agreeable pair, always smiling and pounding hot metal. Oops, that sounded much worse than I intended but no sense back-pedaling now. I'll just forge ahead with my foot in my mouth.

Dreaded Lucy, GRita...hee hee, another good one.
 

Jardinera, thank you for clearing that up. Thank the rest of you as well for your comments.

Since my wife also watches this show, I've gone away from recapping along with the first viewing, like I did with Duelo and Amar. Mrs. Ferro insists it's no big deal while I pause and pause the recording to write, but I don't believe her. So now I watch it through with her once, then go back the next day and watch it again and write. It takes longer, but wow am I able to put a lot more of my thoughts in without losing track of what is going on. This method seems to be working well, thank you all for your feedback.

I'm interested to see what happens with this new pirate gang, also I wonder if Foreman is going to get some backlash from being involved with so many different shady characters. And lastly, when will we get to see Lazaro get his just due? Maybe he should be the one that has to go off Claudio's cousin to get Claudio's throne back, as penance. If he gets killed along the way, oh well.
 

Oh - I love the name GRita too. Have to remember that one.
 

Cap'n Sharkbait~~~~I haven't looked at the twins in the same way ever since Ferro dubbed them the porno twins and your latest comments have not helped erase the images streaming through my head. Who decides to cast twin blacksmiths in leather aprons ???? You've got to wonder what kind of cocktails were being served at that meeting. Anyhoo, I vote for Ascaniooo or Ric as marriage prospects for Cami. Ascanioo is complaining about wanting to DO something...this could be his chance if Ric does not step up to the plate [going along with the baseball metaphor of Lis as the ''designated crier''...good one, Dread Ferro].
 

thanks ferro, I got behind this week and haven't seen your episode yet. why don't these people ever burn the letters they are trying to get rid of. and why is the letter rita buried going to reappear in a miraculously readable condition. probably written on parchment with better ink than we have these days but still.

yes I named Saintly back when all he did was moan and cry but he's not very saintly any more is he...
 

Ferro, thanks for the great recap.

Jeanne - I was so angry when I read that Ursula smacked Liz, thanks for mentioning it. It makes sense, she could not have guessed it. Did you notice anything else that would be over the top?
 

I'm so glad to find out Sofia took the letter instead of Ursula. I had a moment where I thought Ursula might use it to make Ric marry her - which BTW - would be disaster.

Has anyone else noticed that Lisabeta is a bit long in the tooth to be playing such a young woman?
 

Sofia from Greece, I probably have noticed things but none were as bad as her swatting Lis so far. People push Lis around (happens to blind and deafblind people all the time) rather than guide properly; that's lack of knowledge. But the touching was just evil.

When you consider the era, it was, if I understand it (maybe Margaret has some of the research she's done that would shed light on it), people simply didn't get that personal and touch others except under very specific social conditions and in very societally-dictated ways. They especially didn't touch people they didn't know well, and never did they touch people of their own social class the way Ursula did Lis. It was evil because it violated a blind person's space (intensely, I think someone said earlier--yep, I agree totally) and socially inappropriate for the eras social "rules," as well, even if she were not blind.

Jeanne
 

Thanks for the humorous recap. I have to admit it but sometimes I can't distinguish the humorous way something is recapped from what actually happened. In other words, I have no idea about "ED" and erectile dysfunction. Would someone please elaborate on what that's all about? My guess is that it's referring to that letter the doctor wrote about Tim's inability?
 

Jeanne - You are right, it didn 't even cross my mind that it wasn 't proper to touch someone with whom there was no intimacy before. Thanks for your always interesting informations.
 

Yes, ED Confusion, the card that was stolen that everyone wants is the doctor's note saying that Old Tim was physically unable to get a boner.

Something fun to try - go tell a friend who doesn't watch this show that a major plot point is that this guy, as a promise to his dying mother, brought his spinster aunt and spinster blind cousin to another country to try and invalidate an inheritance by invalidating the marriage that led to the inheritance, with his main piece of evidence being a note from the dead guy's doctor saying that he couldn't get a boner. See what they think about that! Ha.
 

Heh, heh, Ferro94. Thanks for the info. Hey, not so fast, I know a couple of lawyers who would be glad to try the case. (Just kiddin of course) Thanks.
 

I know I got some funny looks when I told people about Mundo de Fieras, which featured an eyepatch-wearing evil twin.

Then I tell them I'm watching a novela with pirates that does NOT feature anyone with an eyepatch, peg leg or parrot.
 

Who is lazaro again? Juancho is the guy who big into cutting throats, played by the actor who played orlando in duelo and Mario in Amar.

I don't know too much detail about 18th century customs. People were a lot more formal. I don't think that whole courtyard scene would have transpired between Lis and Ursula. Too much information in a semi-public area of the house. Pushing a blind woman around seemed pretty damned callous. One thing about Lis though--she always seems to have a cane in one hand and she's always holding something in the other. You would think she'd want to have a free hand to help herself along but she's always got dollies, a flower, or something. Wierd. Sort of adds to her Glass Menagerie like character though.
 

I lost some puntuation. I was asking for clarification that Juancho is that throat cutting guy.
 

Juancho is the throat-cutting guy who kidnapped Camila and took her to Ric to be sold in the subasta on the island--he and his merry men violated her and Jimena before they turned the girls over to the pirates to move the cargo. He was Orlando in Duelo, you may recall--what a sleaze ball.

Lazaro is the pirate from Ric's group who was supposed to buy Claudio and Angel and make sure they were okay or something, buthe let them get sold to bad folks and pocketed the cash that Ric gave him to buy the boys. They were violated by the new owners and Angel died; Ric's finally found out. Lazaro also "borrowed" Ric's ship, the Camila, that he got as booty and renamed that after a raid. He and the boys Ric had left back at home base got bored and wanted an outing. Ric told him it's a no-no to appropriate a ship without permission from the jefe. Now he has a good reason to off Lazaro since he has been non-compliant twice, and one of the boys died as a result.

You're so right about that "making a scene in public" taboo from those times. Ursula did that, too, to emphasize how little she regards Lis. And I love your characterization of Lis--Glass Menagerie. Yep, that's it. Your point about having one hand free is on target, too. But, she doesn't do lots of things that blind folks do, so it fits.

Jeanne
 

Oops, that should be "he let them get sold"

Jeanne
 

I read somewhere that the actress who plays Lis actually wore a mask or something over her eyes (I believe while rehearsing)to get used to not being able to see.
 

That would make good sense. That's what we had to do for several hours a day during our training one summer. My worst experience--in my whole life--was eating under the blindfold. The O&M teacher made all of us teacher-trainees eat peas, jello, and if I remember correctly, spaghetti. My stomach was in knots for days afterward and I had no appetite. It was an important "aha" for all of us about really teaching the children well so they could negotiate all kinds of foods.

Other interesting experiences include going to dinner with deafblind friends when we were having fried chicken. It's hard to communicate with sticky fingers. No matter how hard you try, with finger foods like fried chicken chatting during dinner is a challenge.

Jeanne
 

Oh, yeah, I forgot--in that class we were eating at a local restaurant in the town where I grew up, so there was every probability people I knew would be there and I was making a mess.

Jeanne
 

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