Wednesday, June 25, 2008

Al Diablo Con Los Guapos #108, Wednesday 6-25: I'm not sure anything really happened tonight.

I expect to night's recap will be a bit sketchy as I'm not feeling too great. Hopefully the rain we got today in Phoenix is just what my sinuses needed!

First we rehash yesterday's scenes: Flor tells Mili she knows the truth and she knows that Mili knows; Mili gets physical with la Florinda esa; Damian continues with the pretense that he has a direct line to God; as Damian gets ready to leave, Karla comes in with the gun from Constancio's desk…Damian is not amused, but Constancio is!

Constancio asks Karla to shoot Damian…but out in the garden, if you please. Damian continues the God talk, Constancio continues with the jokes, Karla continues with the crazy. Damian steps closer and asks her to shoot. She does, but there are no bullets in the gun. Constancio comes over and takes the gun away. He and Karla both look disappointed at the lack of bullets, although Constancio knew already.

Flor and Mili continue grappling in the baby store. A saleswoman comes over to bust up the fight and threatens to call the cops. Flor sends the saleswoman away and then gripes at Mili to quit crying. She tells Mili that she knows she played dirty, but now she's married to Alejandro and Mili can't fight that. She blames Mili for Alejandro continuing to be unhappy. Mili cries about what a bad bad girl Florencia is. Mili says she'll keep her mouth shut, but for the kid's sake. Then the claws come out as she tells Florencia that Alejandro is always going to be thinking of her when they do the nasty. Assuming that Alejandro does ever touch Florencia again.

Karla cries into the furniture. Braulio comes over to ask what's up. Karla tries to pull rank on him, but Braulio's not buying that story that "as soon as" she marries Damian, she'll be in charge. Braulio tells her to get back to work and she does.

Padre Manuel and Sor Cachete argue about whether Damian really wants to be a priest. PM doesn't buy it, but he told him to go on retreat because God works in mysterious ways. Well, I say if God wanted to slow Damian down, he would have let him come down with a nasty case of VD already.

Luciana pays a booty call on Nestor. She tells him she asked for a divorce.

Sor Cachete gets in on the act of screwing with Damian. She puts him to work in the convent garden. Damian thought she was talking about cooking and/or eating. PM suggests he go to the tomato section and tells him to get done by 6 because they eat at 7 and then pray from 8-11. SC breaks the news that they're up at 5 for the first Mass. Damian looks horrified, but he hasn't broken yet. He reluctantly follows Sor Cachete.

If you get a chance, review that ad for La Rosa de Guadalupe…the actress who plays Sor Cachete is in the last scene as a blonde. Quite a different look there.

Constancio gets to work and gripes to Andrea about Damian getting away from him. Andrea doesn't think that's the only reason. Constancio denies Luciana has anything to do with his bad mood, but then he lets slip that Luciana wants a divorce. Andrea thinks this is a great idea, but Constancio doesn't want to. Oh, his male pride is wounded because she's the one who asked. Andrea doesn't care, she just wants to get her claws into him. He looks underwhelmed with the idea of marrying Andrea.

Luciana and Nestor bask in the afterglow. Luciana is back to thinking she's going to leave Constancio to be with Nestor. I'm just waiting to see how long before she decides she can't leave him after all. She says she wants a lawyer and wants to leave Constancio with nothing. Nestor just wants her out of the marriage. Luciana's got her mind set on revenge for all the cheating and the humiliation, etc. Again, Nestor just thinks she needs to get out. Luciana's hoping that once he's got nothing, Andrea will dump him.

Yolanda proposes to Gamuza that they "all" live together as a family: Yolanda, Romulo, Gamuza, and Gloria if she wants to. Yolanda agrees to fix Gamuza smoothies every morning and cakes at night. He asks if he can call her mom. Awwwwwww. Filthy street urchin makes good.

Mili brings her cuatacho a glass of wine. There's some whine with that wine, as usual. There's yet another fútbol metaphor for the relationship between her and Alejandro. Drink. Padre Manuel comes in to give Mili a hug.

Mateo waxes rhapsodic about riding his motorcycle. Marisela admits she wants Mateo, but he's not marriage material. She wants Bobby for a husband…he's sweet, easy to manipulate…perfect husband material. She goes off to the bathroom and right then, Bobby and Alejandro walk in. Mateo downs a big gulp of Marisela's wine. The guys make small talk and Mateo has to cover up how he knows that Alejandro's got a baby on the way. Marisela comes out of the bathroom and tries to hide behind a menu. While standing by the hostess station. Just walk out, brain trust.

Padre Manuel and Mili talk about what a mess things are with the potential incest and then not incest, and Luciana making threats, and etc. Mili says she's going to marry Hugo and she doesn't plan to tell Alejandro the truth. She won't screw up the baby's life. Well, if that's the case maybe Mili should consider busting them up and raising the baby with Alejandro…who knows what kind of hell her life will be with Florencia as a mom.

Marisela is still freaked out, but eventually leaves when she can't figure out what else to do. Mateo gets the check and leaves. Bobby and Alejandro sit down and Bobby calls Florencia, which pisses off Bobby.

Florencia is in Alejandro's room in Casa Belmonte, frantically trying to get hold of Marisela. She thinks about Mili's words that Alejandro will always be thinking about her and steams.

Servants' dinner. I miss the whole bit with Rocky and Horacio. They go off to do something and then Socorro asks Karla what's up. Lina picks on her about being less fun than a convent. She gets upset and leaves. Heh. Braulio tells Lina she shouldn't have called Karla a snake…she should have called her a cockroach!

Sor Cachete, Padre Manuel, and Mili talk about Damian's first day at the convent. He's not doing too well with the gardening, between the heat and trying not to get dirty. They pick on him some more, but Padre Manuel doesn't join in. Mili leaves. PM muses that life hasn't treated Mili well.

As the servants finish dinner, Gamuza comes in, but he already ate, so he declines Socorro's offer of enchiladas. He does accept dessert, though. He talks to Gloria about moving in together with the 'rents. Gloria says she'll come visit, but not live there. Gamuza tries to talk her into it, but he doesn’t have any good arguments. He tells Gloria to tell Chamuco to marry her fast so she'll quit being grumpy. He tells Gloria that she's allowed to call his dad "Dad" since he's going to call her mom "Mom". Guess which one Gloria's happy with.

Luciana tells Florencia that she's in on doing whatever it takes to piss off Milagros. She also announces she's getting a divorce and that she's planning on making Constancio move out. Marisela comes over and suggests Mateo as a divorce attorney. Lina comes up with tea for the ladies, but Luciana leaves. Lina hears Marisela talking smack about Bobby and is offended.

Gloria gets Gamuza to promise to look after her mom. He leaves. Lina comes in from outside and tells Gloria what she overheard Marisela saying about Bobby. I believe she also heard that Marisela is cheating on Bobby with Mateo.

Florencia tells Marisela about the fight. Marisela tells Florencia that she's gotten to know Milagros in the last three years and Mili wouldn't hit her. She tells Florencia that she's the one who's gone too far--she married Alejandro and hid the truth. Florencia says she's a fine one to talk, cheating on Bobby. Marisela says she's not even engaged to Bobby. Florencia's like, whatever, I just have to keep Alejandro with me.

Rocky and Horacio are going to the outdoor set of a show called "So All of Mexico Will Know!" A woman tells her husband that she's cured of her gases and he can come home now. Classy show, there.

Marisela insists that Florencia needs to tell Alejandro the truth. Alejandro walks up, asking what they were talking about. Marisela leaves, thus ensuring that Florencia isn't going to tell. Florencia eventually says it's about his mom, that she's looking for a lawyer, but he should talk to his mom about it. Florencia insists it's delicate. She eventually says that Luciana is thinking of divorcing "his" dad.

Mili tells Hugo that Florencia knows all. Hugo tries to calm her down. Mili fusses about how she's supposed to get along with Florencia, then she fusses about Luciana. Hugo tells her to calm down and reminds her they're going to get married soon. Milagros says it's going to drive her nuts to have to play nice to Florencia's face. Hugo promises he'll take care of her.

Alejandro thinks that Luciana is just upset because she fought with Constancio. He doesn't think there's anything to worry about, since she's apparently done this before. Florencia asks if he wants his parents to stay together. Alejandro says he only wants his mom to be happy and get over her alcoholism. He doesn't think she can do that while she's with Constancio. He asks about the shopping trip with Mili. Florencia says she's intolerant, rude, and it's unrealistic to expect them to get along, no matter how they try. Alejandro asks her to try a little harder. This pisses Florencia off. She says if Alejandro wants them all to live together in the same house, he's going to have to accept the consequences.

Rocky is still hesitating to get in front of the camera. A set person comes to tell Rocky it's his turn. Lina comes over to say that Gloria is getting Valeria and Bobby to sit in front of the TV.

Valeria complains about watching the show. Rocky is talking a little too quietly. He eventually starts off telling his "Chiquita" that…and Lina busts in and says "Bobby, your girlfriend's cheating on you!" Well, that's got Valeria's attention, but it's not quite the message Rocky wanted delivered.

Tomorrow: Florencia suggests a truce to Milagros, who scoffs. The utterance of "balls" apparently induces miscarriage, but probably only because Florencia was already standing on the stairs. Luciana declares that she's definitely getting divorced, which starts a fight at the dinner table. Constancio ends up leaving the dinner table to go fire his rifle into the air. Yep, never a dull moment at Manicomio Belmonte.

In other news…I'm going to be taking a class on Wednesday nights starting the week after next and I'm working until late on Thursday nights, so I won't be able to get recaps up before Thursday night's show. Can anyone switch with me on a permanent basis?

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Howdy =)

I think Sheyla (Sor Cachete) has been blond for a while. I saw her in a special for the late Pedro Infante a couple of weeks ago and I remembered how it took us a while to get over Mili getting all that hair in a baseball cap. Sheyla has even longer hair, but I guess the habit gave her a a little more room for it. The woman has a great set of pipes on her. She sung the mariachi song that Pablo Montero keeps singing in FelS as Franco (Deja que Caiga la Luna or something like that) and another tune by Jose Alfredo Jimenez. I think we'd previously heard her in the first week or so of the show when Alex brought mariachis for Mili's birthday and on one of the fund raiser days at the rodeo.

Yup, Mili picking on a pregnant chick was out of character, though in fairness all she did was shake her a little. Kudos to her for switching to verbal sparring with "well, when he's with you and he's actually happy, it's 'cause he's thinking of me..." Oh snap!

There was a question yesterday about Peralta. He got in trouble with the party when they found out he was helping Damian out with his casino in the middle of Connie's party headquarters. I don't know if they kicked him out altogether, but they definitely kept him away from Connie after that and made him and Damian give the party (specifically Connie's campaign) all their loot from the casino.

Re: Romulo - I think he's an alcoholic, or at least had a really bad drinking problem. Once he started working fairly steadily, (and possibly when seeing his once beloved Yolanda again) he was able to stop drinking and was a lot nicer to his kid (and did spend 3 years visiting the comatose Yolanda) once he sobered up. Although he has a point in saying that he never knew about Gloria's existence so he didn't abandon her, the fact is he did try to pressure Yolanda into an abortion and that's why she left him back then. Again, he was once young and then became a drunk, but Gloria has a right to still be a little hurt about almost ending as goo if he'd gotten his way. He seems to have cleaned up a little though, so there is hope. Gloria will probably forgive him in the end, but it's gonna be a rocky road to get there.
 

Hope you find someone to switch nights with you, 5 ft. We wouldn't want to miss your recaps.

I'm getting a little frustrated with this one. Seems like in the middle of a show, thing r.e.a.l.l.y slow down.

They hook you with fast-moving funny stuff at the beginning and rush through the resolution of the romance at the end, but in the middle o.h. s.o. s.l.o.w.

That's why I loved your title. Coming up with a good one is always the hardest part for me.
 

5ft, I can switch with you. I actually don't want to do the recaps on the weekend during the summer, so if you don't mind, I will do Wednesdays.

I will do tomorrow, though.

Meanwhile, how does Lina know about Bobby and Marisela? Did she spot them together?

I agree that most of this episode was filler-y, but the showdown between Mili and Flor was important. Even Marisela tells Flor that Flor is playing with fire.
 

Thank you 5ft. I'm glad you're still going to be a recapper because you are so funny.

Anyway, please, oh, please, no, no, Mili is not going to be put on a guilt trip if Florencia miscarries. Then she'll have been blamed for every bad thing that has happened in Mansion Belmonte.

From lower Ala
 

Thanks for the recap.

I'm hoping the miscarriage suggestion is just misdirection. You know Mili would be blamed somehow, although it seems a bit extreme that curses and insults could cause such a thing. Do we know how far along Flor is?

I would like to get some lifestyle tips from Al, though. How can they pack as if going back to Mexico for a short trip, then just decide to stay? Don't they have a home in Venezuela? Isn't all their stuff there? Didn't Al have a job? Even if he was working for Domingo, you'd think there would be ends to tie up, stuff to pack, real estate concerns to see to. Whenever I move, it takes weeks of work, even just to go across town, even if I'm not the one actually hauling the stuff.

Nina, did you mean how did Lina know about Mateo and Marisela? Because Mari and Bobby have been macking ostentaciously for years. She found out about the side affair with Mat because Marisela and Flor were openly talking about it while Lina was serving them coffee...invisible, inconsequential servant, you know.

Bobby needs to be next on the haircut list. I feel like he could be a lot better looking than he currently is.

Luci-fer sure does know how to be appealing to her illicit lover. Nothing says sexy like going on and on about your awful husband. Good thing Nestor is totally delusional.
 

No miscarriage - that would be obvious and this evil spawn is important to everyone. So Flo is either faking a problem or it was just a tease.

I know some people feel this has slowed down but I don't. I think each episode gives us something new about some of the characters that further moves the story along. I found it interesting that MP 2 told her sister that she had come to know Mili and the girl would never hit her. Obviously what little passes for brains in the Echiverria family goes to Marisela.

As for the Al and Florinda living out of the country and making a decision on the fly to stay in the DF remember that these people are filthy rich. It takes just a phone call to have the help pack and ship and close down their house and ditto for Big Daddy not making a fuss over Al leaving his job. My husband and I were on the French Riviera when he told me I'm not going back to work and just like that he made a life changing choice so not only the rich make snap decisions. LOL

Wonder how MP2 will react when she finds out that her sordid little affair is now known all over Mexico thanks to a TV show. Now we'll see if bobby remains sweet and easily managed like good husband material or kicks her fanny to the curb and goes after the girl he has always been secretly drawn to.
 

Julia, that's what I meant. Thanks for the info.
 

Decie, I agree; even on days where nothing big happens, there are so many storylines that there is always something going on. Even the ordinary stuff is usually pretty funny; these actors really make the most of the material and the dialogue is pretty witty. I can tell that and I'm sure there are some good jokes that I'm missing. Plus, Al and Hugo are looking good, so that's worth something.

When Mili, Sor Cachete, and PM were eating at the convent, it looked like they were having mac 'n' cheese, and I really expected some loving closeups of the Kraft box and then some over-the-top raving about how cheesy it was.
 

Oh, Julia, you are too bad.
 

I agree with you guys, even if the show is slow, I like watching the characters and the actors.

Why are we Guapsters posting so few comments? The new Querida Enemiga group has already posted many more comments--and on an untested show!
 

Nina

Over the years on a variety of venues i've often found that the worst shows draw the most comment. If you've got bad acting, cheesy sets or clothing everyone likes to let it rip. Then there are the ones high on the drool factor which do the same thing. Beats me but sometimes I enjoy it better if i don't have to wade through layers of snark and drool to see what people are thinking.
 

Thanks 5ft! You did a great job despite your sinuses acting up!

I am really enjoying Damien and his fake otherworldly manner. And Karla was great last night too.

As for comments, I’m sure tons of people are reading the recaps but not commenting. I read along for months before I got up my nerve to comment. It seemed everyone knew more Spanish and knew more about novelas in general and the actors in particular. But I’m glad I jumped in the pool – it’s really fun. My poor husband was getting cross-eyed with boredom as I prattled on about the latest show, and now I had people to discuss it with who were as into it as I was. Plus I always had questions about this or that, and it was great to throw my questions out there and get helpful answers. The commenters are a wonderful, welcoming bunch.

For those of you who have never left comments – please do! It gives the recappers a lot of pleasure to know that their efforts are worthwhile (it takes a number of hours to write a recap) and that there are plenty of people reading along.
 

Hey NinaK...give us poor 7 o'clockers a break! We've been laboring in near obscurity for over a year on a show (Juan Querendon) nobody seemed to be watching or commenting on. A lot of times us recappers were just talking back and forth to each other.

So it's nice to have a little more attention for a change. (But hey, I understand...I've always been a little envious of the TONS of comments on the 9 o'clock show). But since envy is one of the 7 deadly knees I'm getting down on my arthritic knees right now. Do you think Father Damian will grant me forgiveness?
 

Whoa...can't believe that typo!
Seven Deadly SINS I meant...but deadly knees pretty much describes me too.
 

Whew, I was hoping there weren't 7 deadly knees; two are enough.

So, did Karla really mean to shoot Damien or was she bluffing? Damien and Constancio were so nonchalant about the gun, but wasn't it just this week that it turned out to be loaded when they thought it wasn't? What does it take to learn a healthy fear of firearms? (Side note--when I was a kid, we were all at Grandma's house and one of my idiot cousins was playing with my uncle's hunting rifle in one of the bedrooms, assuming it wasn't loaded because loaded guns weren't allowed in the house. At my house, guns are not allowed at all, loaded or unloaded. Anyway, he pulled the trigger, and turns out there WAS a bullet in there, and it went through the wall to the family room directly toward another cousin but was stopped by a piece of metal in the pool table. Guns are not toys, kids.)

I can't wait to see Damien's next scheme to get out of marrying Karla. Getting up at 5 to garden isn't going to last long. Wasn't he married to Hugo's mother for a long time? What was that like that he is so reluctant to marry again?

All the evidence I see shows that Al is really sort of a standup husband. Considering that it was perfectly understood that he married Flor when he didn't love her, he is really quite affectionate and devoted to her. If novela rules didn't state that the protagonists must get together, it almost seems like Flor could have had a chance of winning him over, except that she is totally whiny and witchy and, oh yes, deceived him in about the worst way possible. If he leaves her, it will be her own fault.
 

JudyB, nothing against the 7 o'clockers--I'm just trying to motivate the 8 o'clockers. You have been a stalwart member of all groups, so you are not being admonished.

Do you think Querida is better than Querendon so far?
 

Nina, I was also wondering why this show didn't seem to be getting as much attention. Fuego is pretty to look at, but there's so much to discuss on Guapos! I can't get any of my friends to watch it, so I really love the socializing here, but when there aren't many people posting I feel like I'm adding more than my share of comments.

Anyway, one last item for today: any bets on whether one day Karla will try to sell that bling she's flashing, and it will turn out to be cubic zirconium?
 

Thanks Nina....good to be thought of as stalwart...I do love all these blogs and the talented recappers.

So far, other than enjoying the newness of Querida, I prefer Juan Querendon. There were some truly nutty characters on Juan (including our hero himself, cutting quite the fine figure in boxer shorts and boots) and the language was sensational. Difficult yes. Not always in a dictionary but a real brain tease to translate and I loved that part of the challenge.

However, Querida looks like it may be fun to do as a spoof recap...the wickeds are sooo BAD and the goods are sooo NOBLE and PURE...well, you get the picture.

Plus we've already looked at recipes for Pastel Azteca and Salsa Borracha and anything to do with food will keep me happy.
 

Thanks 5ft, loved the brain trust comment aimed at Marisela's hiding abilities!

Nina, I often don't get to read the recaps until a few minutes before the next show or sometimes DURING the next show, so on those days I don't comment because it seems pointless - but I'll try to heed your motivational efforts! I too have wondered why such a great little show like Guapos gets so fewer comments than Fuego. I think Eduardo Yanez is one of the most amazing looking men I've ever seen, but that wasn't enough to make me watch past the first week.
 

Very nice recap, This is what I hate and despise about all TeleNovela's, the good girl always keeps the secret always. No matter how many times people through it up in her face.

Screw that nonsense...I would nail them, yeah I would probably lose in the end, but damn just once to shut them up.

Oh yes, and even though Skanky Karla is well, Skanky Karla...Damien that was wrong...but I still love you.
 

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