Saturday, September 27, 2008
Feugo en la Sangre, 09/26/08: With Mothers Like That Who Needs Enemies?
The misery of motherhood prevails in certain quarters of Ciudad Serdán tonight as we begin.
Fer enters Sofia’s bedroom ready to tell her he now wants to give her that divorce that she’s been begging him for all these many months. Sofia is desperate and half crazed at this point from the sudden loss of her newborn daughter. In a moment of irrational desperation, before Feo can give her the news, she tells him that if he gets her baby back for her she is prepared to do whatever he asks. Feo moves in to take literal advantage of the situation when suddenly Bruja-riela careens into the bedroom out of nowhere on her jet-powered broomstick and unwittingly pushes Sofia back from the brink by giving her the news of the divorce herself. She then pops a wheelie on her broomstick, revs the engine and drops a major hint to Feo that his presence is no longer needed, nor wanted, in Sofia’s bedroom.
Fernando obediently heels. Gabi takes a minute to then inform Sofia that she saw a heart specialist who has ordered treatment for her. She says he warned her that if her daughters didn’t stop causing her so much aggravation she’d have to undergo a heart operation. So, if things didn’t quickly change around there, Sofia and her sisters would have to leave for the good of her health. Mad-Bad Mama having said what she’d come to say, revs and rolls that ‘stick on out of there leaving Sofia to weep and mourn her fate alone. It’s uncertain to those of us in Viewerville, whether Sofia is crying over Mama’s worsened condition or the fact that she realizes how close she just came to avoiding a fate worse than death at being pawed over by Mama’s panting pooch.
While Sofia has been kept from going fully over the brink into madness, Jimena is not so lucky. She is lying on her bed, in a near catatonic state, having been once again overwhelmed by the constant tragedies plaguing the family. Jimena, overcome with so many family misfortunes, has apparently suffered another nervous breakdown but somehow sends a telepathic SOS to Oscar, who suddenly gets a feeling that something has happened to her.
Sarita comes in for a chat with her sister but when she sees that Jimena isn’t responsive she races for help from Mama. Crabi isn’t up for mothering and groans to Sarita and Fernando that the three girls are a never-ending pain in her backside. However, she and Feo do finally follow Sarita to check on Jimena. Gabi takes one look at Jimena and immediately lights into her about her ruining her wa and accuses oblivious Jimena of playing these games just to upset her. Sarita says she’s certain it’s another breakdown the same as when Mama was sick in the hospital. Fernando (the only one there with some common sense) decides to make sure and goes off to get the doctor.
While Sarita frantically tries to get a response from blank-faced Jimena, Gabi drones on as if she’s in a world of her own, carping selfishly about her own poor health and the need for a heart operation if her daughters don’t stop continually vexing her. Totally unmindful of the tragedy unfolding on the bed next to her, Gabi begins haranguing the two girls about wanting to kill her and not giving them the pleasure. She’ll throw them out of the house first! Hearing this threat makes Sarita suddenly stop and take notice and she stares maliciously at Mama.
In town Eladio is doing a lousy job of trying to console a hairless (but finally clean-shaven) Rigo who’s been undergoing radiation treatment for a while. In a definitely touching, two-hanky scene, the two brothers break down in tears together as Eladio ponders Rigo’s fate and tenderly kisses his brother’s forehead.
In a creepy but definite counterpoint to the vicious vamp that claims to be Mother of the Year back in Ciudad Serdán, the Puebla City cardiologist daddy of leggy and luscious doctor-daughter, Leonora, cries because she’s all grown up, has flown the proverbial coop, and he misses her so badly.
Speaking of lovely Leonora, we zoom over the canopy of the rain forest to the outskirts of the indigenous village where the government’s Indian Agent, still pissed at being summarily dissed and dismissed by the defiant doctor, is telling the local shaman (who seems a tad wily and two tads smarter than the average native population there) that they’ll need to teach the uppity broad a lesson or two about humility and what passes for respect for male authority in those parts. He wants the shaman to rile up the village and get them to scorn and humiliate her, and to have them refuse to pay attention to her. That way they’ll soon have her on her knees to them (a la Lewinsky?) and begging for their help.
Meanwhile, back at Hacienda de Harpy, the local doctor examines Jimena and confirms the nervous breakdown. He says he can do nothing more than give her a tranquilizer and wait for her to recover, which might take quite a while. Crabi is incensed at this inconvenience and begins a rant about her being the one who is really ill, while Jimena is only pulling a stunt to get some attention. The doctor looks on straight-faced (as hubby and I agree that this woman is the one who really needs to be interned in an institution, complete with padded cell and strait-jacket). It’s impossible for us in Viewerville to tell what he must be thinking just then as Gabi now self-righteously declares that Jimena is getting just what she deserves, and that her rebellious daughters are so disobedient they are simply receiving God’s punishment. She then breaks into tears and claims she is the long-suffering, God-fearing, wonderful mother who doesn’t deserve any of what’s been happening to her. The doctor continues silently observing these histrionics as Fer “worriedly” pampers and coddles Gabi, then turns to tell him that he really should do something for her. (Euthanasia, perhaps? Works for me!)
Across the hall Sofia and Sarita hover over Jimena trying to communicate with her somehow. Sofia begins to remember good times with Juan but turns maudlin and says she’s certain it was all part of his plan for revenge which he carried out by kidnapping the baby. Sarita wonders if Juan is really capable of that despite her despising the Reyes brothers. Sofia wonders what other explanation there could be. (We can think of one, but apparently Sarita is a little slow on the uptake.) Sarita says she has no idea, but she has come to believe that Juan might be dead. Sofia is impactada at the mere thought of it.
Across the fields at the neighboring Robles hacienda Franco is second only to Juan in decibel level as he screams to a frightened, huddling, tearful Quintina, Eva, and Pablito that he refuses to believe that Juan is dead. (Man, I didn’t think the twerpy little guy had any rage in him. Welcome to my world, Franco!)
That night Leonora is learning about the local medicinal herbs the natives use and we get a quick educational backgrounder in most pharmaceuticals being based on medicinal plants. Silvestre, the Good Indio, points out one of the plants in particular as being one the witchdoctor uses for mind-control. It causes people to lose their free-will and can even be deadly he warns her. In another part of the village that same night the shaman employs a few medicine-man theatrics to set the resident natives against her.
The next day Armando and Fer are having a couple of shots of tequila. Armando doesn’t know how in the blazes El Jefe happened to find out about what happened despite being stuck in prison, but El Jefe wants Fernando to clear up the business about both Juan’s and his new baby girl’s disappearance ASAP. This sets off Fernando who, in another paroxysm of rage, begins screaming at the top of his lungs that he cannot understand what reason El Jefe has to get involved in the Reyes’ affairs. “WHY? WHAT’S IT MATTER TO HIM?” As Armando starts to give him some sort of answer, El Coyote and his rifle-totin’ posse come storming through the door and Coyote says he’ll explain it. First, though, they grab Armando by the collar and throw him the hell out of the office.
Fernando gets on his high-horse and screams at El Coyote. (Big mistake.) “WHAT?? WHAT HAVE YOU GOT TO EXPLAIN? DON’T YOU REALIZE I’M FED UP WITH YOU ALL? FED UP!!” One of Coyote’s men butts Fer across the face with his rifle and drops him to the floor. Coyote picks him back up and throws him into the second guy’s rifle butt and says that that is for the time when he insinuated that El Jefe was involved with Pedro because he had a “thing” for Pedro.
While El Coyote is meting out a bit of mortal justice, Sofia is across town at the church praying to the virgencita, madre to madre, asking again for mercy and the return of her baby daughter. Hortensia comes in. The two talk about the pain they share as mothers and then begin to pray.
El Coyote and the posse continue to beat the snot out of Fernando. They give Fer a message from El Jefe: he wants to know the whereabouts of Juan and his baby daughter ASAP. Fernando feigns ignorance and tells them that he was out looking for a doctor at the time and even has a witness. El Coyote tells him to find out who IS guilty then or they will, and that won’t be pretty since they will stop at nothing to get the truth. Fer agrees but says he needs to know why. He can’t understand why El Jefe is so interested in the day-to-day of Juan Reyes and wants them to tell him.
El Coyote drops the the first anvil on Fernando. “That’s right. You still don’t know --El Jefe is Pedro Reyes’ daddy and Juan and the others’ uncle.” Fernando is double-take impactado. “Nothing better happen to them if you value your life!” Coyote warns him and then leaves. (Ruh-Roh!) Fer swallows hard then looks for the biggest bottle of tequila he can find.
Over at the church, outside Padre Tadeo’s office, Eva listens as Sofia admits to him that she offered herself as Fer’s sacrificial lamb chop, out of desperation, to get Fer’s help in finding her daughter. Eva breaks in and tells her not to feel guilty because she would have done the same when her mother took her little baby back when. Tadeo says Sofia should not torment herself over it, and then warns her to steer clear of Fernando from now on and not to trust him about anything. “He’s conniving and corrupt. He could destroy you in an even greater unhappy happenstance.”
Back at the Bad Love, Fer lets Armando have it in spades for not telling him that El Jefe was connected to the Reyes’. Now he’s got to find “the guilty party” or else. Armando tries to squirrel his way out of things by saying there was never an opportunity with Fer because he was spending so much time chasing after Raqui and Gabi. He asks what Fernando plans to do. Fer says he plans to pretend to look for the guilty person and when the time comes, he’ll find someone to blame. He looks threateningly at Armando and says it will be “someone who’s become useless to me.”
The two town gossips check out Sofia’s new shop and find Sarita trying to run things on her own. They commiserate over Sofia’s tragedy.
Not happy harping at just her three daughters, Gabi goes to see Augie and begins the entire litany of woes again as well as placing blame for Sofia and her sisters’ problems totally on them alone. “They went looking for trouble and they found it (meaning they defied Mama). Besides, they over react and now Jimena is faking a nervous breakdown.” Augie says that Crabi’s ambition and insanity have killed the motherly love in her. She laughs in that infuriatingly condescending manner of hers and scoffs that if he is so worried about her daughters they should come to live with him. It would be doing her a favor, she says, so maybe he should really think about it.
Quintina and Pablito show up at Augie’s door at that point and Gabi leaves. They are there to try to return the motorcycle he bought for Quintina, but Augie won’t take it back. The two adults continue to argue and Pablito gets tired of being stuck in the middle as their go-between. (I get tired of having to watch this silly scene a second time. >>FF.) They agree to a truce.
In town Sarita grudgingly accepts Rosario’s offer to help with the shop during the day.
Back at the hacienda, outside Jimena’s bedroom door, Nati overhears Gabi selfishly tell her catatonic daughter that she will be speaking to Dr. Matasanos to get her interned in an institution somewhere because she claims she is too sick to take care of her.
At the little clinic in town the doctor informs Eladio and Hortensia that Rigo’s headaches are now too severe and he needs to operate on the tumor as soon as possible.
Meanwhile, Franco has gone to sit under the giant Robles’ family tree to think things through. He remembers Juan telling him and Oscar that their daddy planted the tree long ago for that very reason. He tearfully asks his dead papa (I guess to intercede in Heaven) for a little help in problem-solving for them there on earth. He cries, saying that he knows he raised Juan and later Juan raised them to be upstanding, worthwhile men so it would be impossible for Juan to be guilty of kidnapping his little girl.
Sofia, meantime, has Eva bring her to Ste. Libia’s grave to pray for Libia to intercede with Juan so that he’ll return her baby to her. (Ok. So if Libia can hear, she probably should tell Sofia now how she’s got it all wrong. Maybe she could spell it out in flashing Morse code or something through that neon flower.)
A bit later, Rosendo gallops over to the tree to find Franco and to let him know that Doña Gabriela has ordered the spring (“ojo de agua”) to be shut off since she knows it will automatically dry up the water to their property. Franco immediately rushes to the Elizondo hacienda to speak with Gabi about the rights to the spring.
Fernando comes back from town after his run in with El Coyote and Gabi remarks on his busted lip which he lies about saying it was just a slight accident he had. He immediately changes the subject by handing her the file he says has the divorce papers for Sofia to sign. Gabi looks them over, smiles and says Sofia will sign them that day and then they'll finally be free to marry. Just then Franco rushes in demanding to speak with Gabi about the rights to the spring water and she shoos Fer out of the room. She smiles maliciously as she shows him the document which years ago, before he was murdered, she secretly deceived his papa Juanjo into signing which ceded her rights to the spring.
In another part of the house, Sofia enters and starts up the stairs when Fer, just having left Gabi's office, confronts her. He asks her about the earlier offer to do whatever he asked if he would help her find her daughter. Sofia’s change in ‘tude hits him like a two by four across the jaw. “That was a mother’s pain that made me say and do certain things, but now I realize you are not the proper person to help me, so just forget whatever it was I said because I do not trust you at all.” She stomps up the stairs to her room.
Franco again demands to know what could have made his father sign the rights to his spring away like that. Gabi, knowing she has the upper hand, simply smiles that vile, enigmatic smile of hers at him and refuses to speak. She can barely contain her glee at his confusion and frustration. He lets the document drop to the floor and angrily rushes out of the hacienda.
Upstairs Pablito sneaks into Sofia’s room through the balcony window for a quick visit and a motherly hug. They share a cry over the separation and neither wants to believe that Juan could be dead.
Back at the clinic Nati and Eladio discuss the tragedies that surround them. Nati mentions that the latest is that Jimena is going to be interned in an institution because Doña Gabriela doesn’t want to have to take care of her. Eladio says he doesn’t understand how there could be mothers like that.
Later that evening, back at Harpy Haven, Fer finally hands over the divorce papers to Sofia and says that after this there will be nothing that binds them together. She gladly signs and says it’s what she’s wanted most of all in her life.
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how do we know she signed divorce papers and not signing away her rights to the inheritance now that the baby is not there?
PS What is Creemelo
PS What is Creemelo
Permalink posted by 
: Saturday, September 27, 2008 at 6:54:00 PM EDT
: Saturday, September 27, 2008 at 6:54:00 PM EDT
Thanks for the witty re-cap!
A couple beefs I have with the logic of this episode:
So Sofia asks Feo to help her get the baby back as if she knows that he would be somehow more able than anyone else to get the baby? She does not know this, why would she so pointedly go to him in particular?
Also, wasn't it a stretch for her to be praying to the dead Libia for intercession, just because she too was pregnant and was going to be a mother?? Why wouldn't Libia be more pre-disposed to be taking her older brother's side? Of course she's dead, we just don't know that much about what the dead think of these matters.
Then,I don't get why, if Crabi had the rights to the "ojo de aqua" signed over to her by Juan Sr., why was it such a big deal to her to lose that land to the Reyes? I seem to remember all kinds of histrionics over that, and she had this document in her back pocket the whole time?
I know, I know, I want things to make sense!
I love that the "good indian" guy is named Silvestre which means wild or natural and he looks like a real indian, right out of a Diego Rivera painting, which you can't really say about the witch doctor guy. I could have sworn that the extras in the village were laughing at his antics.
The re-cap made it much more fun than the actual episode, thanks again!
randy, sea.
A couple beefs I have with the logic of this episode:
So Sofia asks Feo to help her get the baby back as if she knows that he would be somehow more able than anyone else to get the baby? She does not know this, why would she so pointedly go to him in particular?
Also, wasn't it a stretch for her to be praying to the dead Libia for intercession, just because she too was pregnant and was going to be a mother?? Why wouldn't Libia be more pre-disposed to be taking her older brother's side? Of course she's dead, we just don't know that much about what the dead think of these matters.
Then,I don't get why, if Crabi had the rights to the "ojo de aqua" signed over to her by Juan Sr., why was it such a big deal to her to lose that land to the Reyes? I seem to remember all kinds of histrionics over that, and she had this document in her back pocket the whole time?
I know, I know, I want things to make sense!
I love that the "good indian" guy is named Silvestre which means wild or natural and he looks like a real indian, right out of a Diego Rivera painting, which you can't really say about the witch doctor guy. I could have sworn that the extras in the village were laughing at his antics.
The re-cap made it much more fun than the actual episode, thanks again!
randy, sea.
Permalink posted by : Saturday, September 27, 2008 at 8:01:00 PM EDT
: Saturday, September 27, 2008 at 8:01:00 PM EDT
Thank you Calamity Cakes! I especially appreciated the detailed recap as my doggie had diarreah last night and during FELS she kept whimpering to go outside every ten minutes!
(And please remind me which cartoon character used to say "Ruh-Roh"...)
Randy, what do you bet that Silvestre will be instrumental in helping save BabeDoc from some lousy fate with some of his herbal essences?
I agree with Anon 6:54 that Sofia was wayyy too quick to sign those "divorce" papers without reading them (it's all about the fine print!)
By the way Anon, "Creemelo" is my little pseudonym created just for posting to this blog.
As someone--Novelera?--pointed out last night, it means "believe you me". Which by the way nobody ever does.
"Creemelo"
(And please remind me which cartoon character used to say "Ruh-Roh"...)
Randy, what do you bet that Silvestre will be instrumental in helping save BabeDoc from some lousy fate with some of his herbal essences?
I agree with Anon 6:54 that Sofia was wayyy too quick to sign those "divorce" papers without reading them (it's all about the fine print!)
By the way Anon, "Creemelo" is my little pseudonym created just for posting to this blog.
As someone--Novelera?--pointed out last night, it means "believe you me". Which by the way nobody ever does.
"Creemelo"
Permalink posted by : Saturday, September 27, 2008 at 8:32:00 PM EDT
: Saturday, September 27, 2008 at 8:32:00 PM EDT
I was glad to see Fernando get beat up again. A little payback for the things he does to the ladies....
I'm still interested in seeing how the Dra. And the Amerind storyline ties with the series. Seems like another Novela altogether. We shall see....
Just how are Quintina and Hortensia related to the Robles-Reyes Brothers? Which side of the family are they related if they are??
Ibarramedia
I'm still interested in seeing how the Dra. And the Amerind storyline ties with the series. Seems like another Novela altogether. We shall see....
Just how are Quintina and Hortensia related to the Robles-Reyes Brothers? Which side of the family are they related if they are??
Ibarramedia
Permalink posted by : Saturday, September 27, 2008 at 9:06:00 PM EDT
: Saturday, September 27, 2008 at 9:06:00 PM EDT
Thanks for the recap Jardinera. I'm still really frustrated with Sofia believing anything that comes out of her mother's or Feo's mouth. Yeah, Juan who loves you with all his heart kidnapped your child. Cut me a break.
Creemelo, Scooby Doo is the cartoon character who says RuhRoh.
Ibarramedia - Quint and Hortensia are sisters and their relation to the Robles-Reyse brothers is b/c Quint is the boys housekeeper and they consider her like family.
Creemelo, Scooby Doo is the cartoon character who says RuhRoh.
Ibarramedia - Quint and Hortensia are sisters and their relation to the Robles-Reyse brothers is b/c Quint is the boys housekeeper and they consider her like family.
Finally Sofia has a lucid moment! "Feo, I can't trust you." Gee, how long will her brain cells continue to function?
In other news, besides snarking at this insanity, I propose a challenge. Since this novela is not all we'd like it to be...
Toss out your perfect role for your favorite TN star. Adela Noriega (Sofia) in Father Knows Best? Pad Tad in Mr Smith Goes to Washington? D. Castro (Crabbi) in Mommy Dearest? Or the other way around, think of a story (Zorro?); which TN stars would you cast in it?
It can be a known movie, a legend, a book... or even a concept you invent. And the stars don't have to be from Fuego. Any TN stars will do (please include a role we'd know them from, since some of us are unfamiliar with actors' names).
I already have three in mind, but first I want to hear yours. Aww, shucks, you twisted my arm. Here's my first one.
Ed Yañez (Juan) as Samson. Big, sexy, and ruled by his emotions. Not real smart. Fits, huh?
Your turn! After you have posted a few, I'll tell you my dream roles for my two favorite galans.
In other news, besides snarking at this insanity, I propose a challenge. Since this novela is not all we'd like it to be...
Toss out your perfect role for your favorite TN star. Adela Noriega (Sofia) in Father Knows Best? Pad Tad in Mr Smith Goes to Washington? D. Castro (Crabbi) in Mommy Dearest? Or the other way around, think of a story (Zorro?); which TN stars would you cast in it?
It can be a known movie, a legend, a book... or even a concept you invent. And the stars don't have to be from Fuego. Any TN stars will do (please include a role we'd know them from, since some of us are unfamiliar with actors' names).
I already have three in mind, but first I want to hear yours. Aww, shucks, you twisted my arm. Here's my first one.
Ed Yañez (Juan) as Samson. Big, sexy, and ruled by his emotions. Not real smart. Fits, huh?
Your turn! After you have posted a few, I'll tell you my dream roles for my two favorite galans.
Permalink posted by : Saturday, September 27, 2008 at 9:36:00 PM EDT
: Saturday, September 27, 2008 at 9:36:00 PM EDT
The other night someone mentioned about the new twist of the girl graduating and where did that come from. She thought the chanels had changed. I thught the same thing. I saw no resemblence of that to our story, not in the people involved, nor the period of time, evidenced by the girls dress and surroundings. That was so strange. Surely the director could have fit this in in a less conspicuous way.
Permalink posted by : Saturday, September 27, 2008 at 9:40:00 PM EDT
: Saturday, September 27, 2008 at 9:40:00 PM EDT
Yah, and isn't it funny how there have always been just the two Drs. Matasanos and Gomez) and suddenly, now, Gabi is seeing a Dr. who appears out of nowhere?
And Rigo is getting Brain Treatment at the local Dispensario? Oh dear.
Anyway, I think Sofia should be starring in Fairytale Theatre, I suggest "Little Red Riding Hood".
"Creemelo"
And Rigo is getting Brain Treatment at the local Dispensario? Oh dear.
Anyway, I think Sofia should be starring in Fairytale Theatre, I suggest "Little Red Riding Hood".
"Creemelo"
Permalink posted by : Saturday, September 27, 2008 at 10:34:00 PM EDT
: Saturday, September 27, 2008 at 10:34:00 PM EDT
I can't even think of a role I would like to see..Sofie in, I saw her in one with Cesar Evora as her Pa, turned priest & Helene Roja as the baby mama that dumped her where? Of course the Catholic Church..FF twenty years..blah blah blah same old thing. She wore short skirts in that one. Since I have only seen her in bad wrong century fashion. She annoys the crap out of me, cause she is so fragile. DA was bad, but at least Gavi had spunk. Sofie is just like the last person I would ever party with.
I would like to see EY actually play a guy who doesn't creep me out because, hawt as he is, you couldn't take him anywhere. He just is so awful with that golly gee whiz routine. I always get the creep factor that it would be like seducing a 12 year old, a very slow 12 year old.
Now can someone tell me what healthy brother told Ma about tumor brother? I was way confused.
So Que the Hell is the diagnosis? This has gone on for a while cause it began the ff 2 minutes of Sofie morphing to fully pregnant.
Also Jimena and those nervous things, that is just way not normal. Doesn't that form of withdrawal usually begin in early childhood with children that are horrendously abused? Sexual or otherwise or children who have witnessed something shattering. Like Juan seeing his parents murdered. It is a form of coping with a reality that is too difficult to face. I mean recent events have been difficult but not that big a deal.
I would like to see EY actually play a guy who doesn't creep me out because, hawt as he is, you couldn't take him anywhere. He just is so awful with that golly gee whiz routine. I always get the creep factor that it would be like seducing a 12 year old, a very slow 12 year old.
Now can someone tell me what healthy brother told Ma about tumor brother? I was way confused.
So Que the Hell is the diagnosis? This has gone on for a while cause it began the ff 2 minutes of Sofie morphing to fully pregnant.
Also Jimena and those nervous things, that is just way not normal. Doesn't that form of withdrawal usually begin in early childhood with children that are horrendously abused? Sexual or otherwise or children who have witnessed something shattering. Like Juan seeing his parents murdered. It is a form of coping with a reality that is too difficult to face. I mean recent events have been difficult but not that big a deal.
Creemelo. You said "Dr. who appears out of nowhere." No! He comes out of the tardis!
Permalink posted by : Saturday, September 27, 2008 at 10:57:00 PM EDT
: Saturday, September 27, 2008 at 10:57:00 PM EDT
Sorry, I forgot to say thanks for the great recap..I was switching back and forth between the debates & the show.
Okay, I'm still going with my original idea that Rosario is a Reyes/Elizondo. Dad signed over the water rights, so if Gabby had been prenant she might have said she would trade baby info for the water rights. I still think the mysterious Ruth will end up being Eva's.
As for who I might cast elsewhere...I love that question! I have to ponder it for a bit, but what fun!
As for who I might cast elsewhere...I love that question! I have to ponder it for a bit, but what fun!
Paula--my ignorance is showing: what is the tardis?
(Wasn't that actor on Guapos and as soon as that show ended he showed up in Cd Serdan?)
:o}
"Creemelo"
(Wasn't that actor on Guapos and as soon as that show ended he showed up in Cd Serdan?)
:o}
"Creemelo"
Permalink posted by : Sunday, September 28, 2008 at 12:03:00 AM EDT
: Sunday, September 28, 2008 at 12:03:00 AM EDT
PS Beckster: regarding Rigo, didn't they diagnose him with the brain tumor right before Sofi's baby bump appeared?
Doesn't that mean Rigo has now been languishing in the local dispensario for 4 or 5 months with a brain tumor? So why does Hortensia suddenly get all upset and start crying NOW?
(Of course I've been having that doggie diarreah problem so I keep missing big chunks of the action.)
"Creemelo"
Doesn't that mean Rigo has now been languishing in the local dispensario for 4 or 5 months with a brain tumor? So why does Hortensia suddenly get all upset and start crying NOW?
(Of course I've been having that doggie diarreah problem so I keep missing big chunks of the action.)
"Creemelo"
Permalink posted by : Sunday, September 28, 2008 at 12:14:00 AM EDT
: Sunday, September 28, 2008 at 12:14:00 AM EDT
Yes indeed they did diagnosis tumor guy before Sofie bump..Now I am not a doctor, nor do I play one on television...but I do listen to NPR & have a crazy memory for useless trivia. As for as I know benign or not, brain tumors are very fast growing. Symptoms are often headaches, seizures, vision problems, once these occur the tumor has grown and effected said areas of the brain. So what the hell did they say how long he has left?
Creemelo, I'm not sure doggie diahirrea is that far from our plot! Considering the amount of rehashing this show indulges in, I don't think you missed much. But I am sorry to hear your pup is not feeling well!
Creemelo, the Tardis reference was a bit of an inside joke, like our references to Brigadoon and the nuclear wasted dump (and Telenovela Beenies of Special Powers). It was a shout-out to fans of British sci-fi TV. Dr. Who is a TV series that started in the 1960's. It has quite a cult following. The tardis is Dr. Who's vehicle which can travel through space and time, but it usually behaves unexpectedly.
My original post from 9/4:
Regarding Pedro's suitcase. The brothers' house is actually a tardis because rooms appear and disappear willy-nilly, and after all, Brigadoon is close to London. ...I'm sure Pedro found the suitcase in one of the various rooms.
My original post from 9/4:
Regarding Pedro's suitcase. The brothers' house is actually a tardis because rooms appear and disappear willy-nilly, and after all, Brigadoon is close to London. ...I'm sure Pedro found the suitcase in one of the various rooms.
Permalink posted by : Sunday, September 28, 2008 at 2:08:00 AM EDT
: Sunday, September 28, 2008 at 2:08:00 AM EDT
"Also Jimena and those nervous things, that is just way not normal...... I mean recent events have been difficult but not that big a deal."
Amen. I'd hate to see her right now, in real time, watching her IRA shrinking, or even her stock in AIG and WaMu vaporizing, with the Wall Street crisis. Sheesh!
randy, sea. --- I think Sofi asked Fer to help her find the baby in the same way she would have asked Jack the Ripper and told him she'd do anything for him. She is desperate, not in her right mind, and she is determined to get her newborn back. Her judgement was clouded. That was my take on the scene.
That scene with Crabi and the new doctor, her rant about those girls killing her slowly, and the look on the new doc's face were priceless. "I'm a good Christian..." Absolutely and there's a front seat in heaven with your name on it, Gabi. NOT!
I'm rather amazed, too, that brain tumor bro. has been at the local dispensario for, what, 4 or 5 months? Maybe they're trying to shrink the tumor because surgery is too risky?
doris
Amen. I'd hate to see her right now, in real time, watching her IRA shrinking, or even her stock in AIG and WaMu vaporizing, with the Wall Street crisis. Sheesh!
randy, sea. --- I think Sofi asked Fer to help her find the baby in the same way she would have asked Jack the Ripper and told him she'd do anything for him. She is desperate, not in her right mind, and she is determined to get her newborn back. Her judgement was clouded. That was my take on the scene.
That scene with Crabi and the new doctor, her rant about those girls killing her slowly, and the look on the new doc's face were priceless. "I'm a good Christian..." Absolutely and there's a front seat in heaven with your name on it, Gabi. NOT!
I'm rather amazed, too, that brain tumor bro. has been at the local dispensario for, what, 4 or 5 months? Maybe they're trying to shrink the tumor because surgery is too risky?
doris
Permalink posted by : Sunday, September 28, 2008 at 8:52:00 AM EDT
: Sunday, September 28, 2008 at 8:52:00 AM EDT
Thanks, Anon. 6:54 pm for the question. I realized after reading it that I left out an important little scene in the recap which explains it for you and the others. I appologize to you and the others, since I was really ill and running on empty just getting this recap out this weekend. I've added the following to it, which now comes 6 paragraphs up from the bottom:
"Fernando comes back from town after his run in with El Coyote and Gabi remarks on his busted lip which he lies about saying it was just a slight accident he had. He immediately changes the subject by handing her the file he says has the divorce papers for Sofia to sign. Gabi looks them over, smiles and says Sofia will sign them that day and then they'll finally be free to marry. Just then Franco rushes in demanding to speak with Gabi about the rights to the spring water and she shoos Fer out of the room."
This should explain why we figure the documents are really the divorce papers and not a scheme. Without the baby now, the attorney has already assured Gabi that she will be the sole heir to the property and Fer told her that there would be no reason to stay married to Sofia. He stands to gain now from marrying Gabriela instead.
"Fernando comes back from town after his run in with El Coyote and Gabi remarks on his busted lip which he lies about saying it was just a slight accident he had. He immediately changes the subject by handing her the file he says has the divorce papers for Sofia to sign. Gabi looks them over, smiles and says Sofia will sign them that day and then they'll finally be free to marry. Just then Franco rushes in demanding to speak with Gabi about the rights to the spring water and she shoos Fer out of the room."
This should explain why we figure the documents are really the divorce papers and not a scheme. Without the baby now, the attorney has already assured Gabi that she will be the sole heir to the property and Fer told her that there would be no reason to stay married to Sofia. He stands to gain now from marrying Gabriela instead.
Thanks, Karen. You're right, it was Scooby Doo, my 31 year old daughter's favorite cartoon growing up. Somehow, around the workplace everytime there was a big administrative boo-boo, that was the phrase we always seemed to use..... and Creemelo -- now that's the mark of a great pet owner, I'd say, to sacrifice the comfort of a peaceful hour watching your favorite telenovela that way. Of course, we know you probably didn't have a real choice, considering the alternative! Hope the pooped-out pooch is feeling peppier today..... >; ? ))
Randy, seat. - I think doris said it long ago that you have to check your logic brain at the door and sit with your special beanie on to cope with the lapses in logic. Pracitically speaking, Uni's scriptwriters have always had a problem with continuity checks in their timelines. I guess you could say that's one of their enduring if not endearing charms..... I also wondered at their pick for a medicine man who looked more European than Indio. He's a character actor that's been around for decades of telenovelas, though. I always enjoy seeing what role they stick him in for the next novela.
Thanks, beckster. As the song says, "Nobody does it better" --so I'm glad to see you here week-end after week-end, taking time to read it and then to comment.
Randy, seat. - I think doris said it long ago that you have to check your logic brain at the door and sit with your special beanie on to cope with the lapses in logic. Pracitically speaking, Uni's scriptwriters have always had a problem with continuity checks in their timelines. I guess you could say that's one of their enduring if not endearing charms..... I also wondered at their pick for a medicine man who looked more European than Indio. He's a character actor that's been around for decades of telenovelas, though. I always enjoy seeing what role they stick him in for the next novela.
Thanks, beckster. As the song says, "Nobody does it better" --so I'm glad to see you here week-end after week-end, taking time to read it and then to comment.
Paula, thanks for info on Dr Who. The tardis seems like a useful item and I think every TN should have one at its disposal, kind of like a Deus Ex Machina. Heck, I want one too!
Molly and Cakes: thanks for get well wishes for doggy. She's an older gal with some ongoing problems; wish I could just let her out into the backyard but Arghhhh! There be skunks out there!
"Creemelo"
Molly and Cakes: thanks for get well wishes for doggy. She's an older gal with some ongoing problems; wish I could just let her out into the backyard but Arghhhh! There be skunks out there!
"Creemelo"
Permalink posted by : Sunday, September 28, 2008 at 10:54:00 AM EDT
: Sunday, September 28, 2008 at 10:54:00 AM EDT
Wonderfully worded whimsical recap. I think the new doctor was thinking "Wow, do I seem like such a big A-hole when I rant about my award winning patriotic daughter?" Seeing a psycho beotch like Gabby might just do the trick.mhm
Permalink posted by : Sunday, September 28, 2008 at 11:12:00 AM EDT
: Sunday, September 28, 2008 at 11:12:00 AM EDT
HI Cakes...hope you get to feeling better soon. You write well when you're bored blue (always, with this telenovela) and even when you're sick.
Paticularly loved your sly parenthesis after the sentence about bring the young doctoress to her knees, and also the "sacrificial lamb chop"....that suits Sofia to a "t".
Not only hope you feel better soon but that you have a telenovela more worthy of your talents next go-round.
Paticularly loved your sly parenthesis after the sentence about bring the young doctoress to her knees, and also the "sacrificial lamb chop"....that suits Sofia to a "t".
Not only hope you feel better soon but that you have a telenovela more worthy of your talents next go-round.
Calamity Cakes - I forgot my manners earlier and did not thank you for the great recap. Thank you!!!
Creemelo - I got rid of our skunk problem by buying a Hav-a-Hart live animal trap from our local Farmers Co-op, and trapping the critters one at a time. Our local county Animal Control agency will come pick up the trap & animal, gently euthanize it, and all I have to do is go retrieve my trap from them the next day. Skunks are known rabies carriers in our area, so Animal Control is more than happy to help reduce the population. Skunks like peanut butter,so I usually buy the cheapest brand of PB & bread, and use that. Eight years ago I trapped 6 skunks and 6 possums within two months and we've not had any problems since then. Our Anim. Cntrl picks up possums, too, due to the rabies issue.
doris
Creemelo - I got rid of our skunk problem by buying a Hav-a-Hart live animal trap from our local Farmers Co-op, and trapping the critters one at a time. Our local county Animal Control agency will come pick up the trap & animal, gently euthanize it, and all I have to do is go retrieve my trap from them the next day. Skunks are known rabies carriers in our area, so Animal Control is more than happy to help reduce the population. Skunks like peanut butter,so I usually buy the cheapest brand of PB & bread, and use that. Eight years ago I trapped 6 skunks and 6 possums within two months and we've not had any problems since then. Our Anim. Cntrl picks up possums, too, due to the rabies issue.
doris
Permalink posted by : Sunday, September 28, 2008 at 1:17:00 PM EDT
: Sunday, September 28, 2008 at 1:17:00 PM EDT
Doris, JudyB and mhm - Thanks. Glad if it was a fun read for you.
JudyB -I'm really too far into the telenovela not to watch and I wouldn't be doing real justice to it if I didn't follow it nightly, but you know you've got a dud when you find yourself falling asleep at the computer half-way through writing the recaps!
I haven't had a chance to read the comments this past week, but I figure it's been said somewhere that it's not as if Juan was kidnapping some stranger's baby and so if he took it, well at least she'd be well-cared for, so why the grief? It's not like he's some murderous cretin or pervert. And, anyway, why would he take his new-born baby and not go directly back home where there were willing friends to be ready female care-givers, duh? And, like how would he support himself and the kid and a nurse if he ran off from a constant stream of income like the bakery? What brain dead moron thought this could be a legitimate storyline? Do they think telenovela fans have all got double-digit I.Q.'s or what not to immediately consider all of this without it being covered and accounted for? Suddenly everybody believing that a heroic man's man like Juan had proven himself to be continually was really just a tricky crazy person with evil plans for revenge doesn't quite do it for me. Ya basta!
JudyB -I'm really too far into the telenovela not to watch and I wouldn't be doing real justice to it if I didn't follow it nightly, but you know you've got a dud when you find yourself falling asleep at the computer half-way through writing the recaps!
I haven't had a chance to read the comments this past week, but I figure it's been said somewhere that it's not as if Juan was kidnapping some stranger's baby and so if he took it, well at least she'd be well-cared for, so why the grief? It's not like he's some murderous cretin or pervert. And, anyway, why would he take his new-born baby and not go directly back home where there were willing friends to be ready female care-givers, duh? And, like how would he support himself and the kid and a nurse if he ran off from a constant stream of income like the bakery? What brain dead moron thought this could be a legitimate storyline? Do they think telenovela fans have all got double-digit I.Q.'s or what not to immediately consider all of this without it being covered and accounted for? Suddenly everybody believing that a heroic man's man like Juan had proven himself to be continually was really just a tricky crazy person with evil plans for revenge doesn't quite do it for me. Ya basta!
Hey Calamity....I think a stinker like this is why many educated Spanish speakers roll their eyes in horror when they find out we're watching telenovelas.
For us would-be Spanish speakers, or those maintaining their fluency, these plots are always educational, no matter how lame.
But this one is lame to an astonishing degree. I actually enjoy Rosario shaking her bon bons because it's the relief from the plot and the music is pumpin'. I'll take that over hours of "tranquilo" and "donde esta mi bebe" anyday.
For us would-be Spanish speakers, or those maintaining their fluency, these plots are always educational, no matter how lame.
But this one is lame to an astonishing degree. I actually enjoy Rosario shaking her bon bons because it's the relief from the plot and the music is pumpin'. I'll take that over hours of "tranquilo" and "donde esta mi bebe" anyday.
With Oscar gone camping and Franco home ranting, who else is looking for Juan other than Capricho?
Permalink posted by : Sunday, September 28, 2008 at 3:00:00 PM EDT
: Sunday, September 28, 2008 at 3:00:00 PM EDT
Doris, thanks for the skunk tips. Sounds like you live out in the woods!
JudyB: I'm right there with you--Rosario is the break-out normal person in this whole mess, and watching her dance at the MalQ really is a relief from all the stupidity.
Anon 3:00, I agree, who's looking for Juan? Send out Mariachi the Dog ("Lassie--GO FIND TIMMY!")
{:o(
"Creemelo"
JudyB: I'm right there with you--Rosario is the break-out normal person in this whole mess, and watching her dance at the MalQ really is a relief from all the stupidity.
Anon 3:00, I agree, who's looking for Juan? Send out Mariachi the Dog ("Lassie--GO FIND TIMMY!")
{:o(
"Creemelo"
Permalink posted by : Sunday, September 28, 2008 at 3:10:00 PM EDT
: Sunday, September 28, 2008 at 3:10:00 PM EDT
Thanks, Cakes, for the great recap. I've been away since Friday..a rainy, gray weekend on a cruise ship filled with investment bankers...seriously...my daughter got married on the ship]...so I didn't get to see this episode. Ruh-roh] I'm impatient for Doc Hottie to find Juan washed up on the banks of the old river. I'm sorry I missed Coyote giving Ferd a good beating. As for my ideas for roles for my fav actors ...my dream is for my three favorite telenovios to be together in a novela : Fernado Colungs, Eduardo Yanez , and Marcello Cordova [?? Andreessss of Amar sin Limites]...maybe throw in Susana Gonzales and Adela Noriego is the love interests] I'd love to see Fernando as Zorro. I like historical telenovelas the best , so Carla Estrada would be my pick for producer and Monica Miguel would be the director. Maybe Edith Gonzales [Dona Barbara, Mundo de Fieras] as the villain with Crabiella thrown in for good measure and Cesar Sendal as the head, cellphone-abusing villain. Mariana Carr [Sofia in Pasion] would have to be there, too, as everyone's favorite tia.
Permalink posted by : Sunday, September 28, 2008 at 3:33:00 PM EDT
: Sunday, September 28, 2008 at 3:33:00 PM EDT
Just pondering once again...why would writers create a villainess (Crabi) so cartoon-like, so one-dimensional, without one shred of humanity, that we laugh at her instead of hate her?
Even Godzilla or Rodan take a break from destroying Tokyo to rush back to their nests if someone is threatening their little hatchlings.
Did I buy my SOB Beanie (Suspension of Belief) one size too large?
"Creemelo"
Even Godzilla or Rodan take a break from destroying Tokyo to rush back to their nests if someone is threatening their little hatchlings.
Did I buy my SOB Beanie (Suspension of Belief) one size too large?
"Creemelo"
Permalink posted by : Sunday, September 28, 2008 at 4:21:00 PM EDT
: Sunday, September 28, 2008 at 4:21:00 PM EDT
Although the tardis is a more fanciful explanation of the emergence of Dr. "Nestor," he is actually supposed to be a specialist that the evil Dr. (whose name is something like Matasarnos, or something with an M anyway) sent Gabriela to for a consultation. How a heart lesion (whatever that is supposed to be) can be influenced by stress is beyond me.
Re Jimena --knowing how she is subject to these catatonic states, it is beyond villainous that Grabi accused her of pretending. But it did open Sarita's eyes.
I am in and out of watching this show, and it amazes me how very little happens for long periods of time when I am tuned out. How long has Juan been missing now? NJ Sue
Re Jimena --knowing how she is subject to these catatonic states, it is beyond villainous that Grabi accused her of pretending. But it did open Sarita's eyes.
I am in and out of watching this show, and it amazes me how very little happens for long periods of time when I am tuned out. How long has Juan been missing now? NJ Sue
Permalink posted by : Sunday, September 28, 2008 at 4:25:00 PM EDT
: Sunday, September 28, 2008 at 4:25:00 PM EDT
Sue, Juan "went missing" the night his and Sofi's baby was born. He had a premonition that something bad was happening at the Hacienda of Horrors. (Feo had someone cut the lights and then stole the baby moments after it was born). Juan took off on Capricho in the violent thunderstorm and confronted Feo, who held the baby at the edge of a cliff as if to throw it over. I think Feo shot Juan point blank (he teeters, and goes over the waterfall...ruh-roh!)
Anyway, somebody who actually saw the episode may be able to fill in the blanks.
"Creemelo...o no"
Anyway, somebody who actually saw the episode may be able to fill in the blanks.
"Creemelo...o no"
Permalink posted by : Sunday, September 28, 2008 at 4:35:00 PM EDT
: Sunday, September 28, 2008 at 4:35:00 PM EDT
Great recap. I was actually switching back and forth between Fuego and the presidential debate, both of which seemed equally repetitious. The only real difference was the language and the lack of prayers to the virgencita in the debate!
Although his character is made to do as many ridiculous things as everyone else's, I really hope they bring Juan back into the picture soon. The rest of them just seem to be flailing around with Eduardo Yanez providing some kind of anchor and center for scenes.
Also the incongruous introduction of the nueva doctora at least gives us one female character who is smart, accomplished, not whining or an outright idiot, and not a witch. It will be interesting to see what happens if and when the Elizondo girls meet her!
Although his character is made to do as many ridiculous things as everyone else's, I really hope they bring Juan back into the picture soon. The rest of them just seem to be flailing around with Eduardo Yanez providing some kind of anchor and center for scenes.
Also the incongruous introduction of the nueva doctora at least gives us one female character who is smart, accomplished, not whining or an outright idiot, and not a witch. It will be interesting to see what happens if and when the Elizondo girls meet her!
Sue: to add to Creemelo's kidnap scene, Feo disguised himself by dressing in the similar clothes and sombrero, complete with the same poncho and dark horse so with the lights off and only lightening supposedly giving off any light it looked like Juan escaping with the baby which, in the real world, would have probably been dead from shaken baby syndrome you'd think with a wild ride to the falls like that in one arm, but oh well.....
The heart lesion is probably a dead bit of heart tissue due to a mini-heart attack which can, I believe, block blood flow through it and that can put strain on the heart, which is an electronic pumping muscle of sorts, as it tries to pump blood through itself. There are any number of scenarios possible depending upon where the dead tissue is located and how big it is. I'm thinking that Dr. M. and the cardiologist were talking about a by-pass being necessary. That's my layman's assessment.......
The heart lesion is probably a dead bit of heart tissue due to a mini-heart attack which can, I believe, block blood flow through it and that can put strain on the heart, which is an electronic pumping muscle of sorts, as it tries to pump blood through itself. There are any number of scenarios possible depending upon where the dead tissue is located and how big it is. I'm thinking that Dr. M. and the cardiologist were talking about a by-pass being necessary. That's my layman's assessment.......
Renee: Thanks, and I agree about the debates --I could only bear to watch a maximum of two fairytales in one night so I chose QE as the second...... Without Juan the show really has skittered off the tracks.
Susanlynn: Congratulations! What a great idea for a wedding, even if you were stuck with stuffy investment bankers and lousy weather!
Susanlynn: Congratulations! What a great idea for a wedding, even if you were stuck with stuffy investment bankers and lousy weather!
susanlynn "I've been away since Friday..a rainy, gray weekend on a cruise ship filled with investment bankers..." Oh, wow, I'll bet they were a bunch of happy campers ...NOT!!!
Since I never watched Gata Salvaje, how does FELS compare? More lame? Not quite as lame? (or course, this requires admitting you watched GS)
Honestly....I think we all deserve T-shirts in January that say "I survived FELS". Yikes... maybe we don't want people to know we really watched this. ;o)
doris
Since I never watched Gata Salvaje, how does FELS compare? More lame? Not quite as lame? (or course, this requires admitting you watched GS)
Honestly....I think we all deserve T-shirts in January that say "I survived FELS". Yikes... maybe we don't want people to know we really watched this. ;o)
doris
Permalink posted by : Sunday, September 28, 2008 at 5:52:00 PM EDT
: Sunday, September 28, 2008 at 5:52:00 PM EDT
Thanks mucho for the snark. LMAO at "on her knees to them (a la Lewinsky?)".
Permalink posted by : Sunday, September 28, 2008 at 6:34:00 PM EDT
: Sunday, September 28, 2008 at 6:34:00 PM EDT
"Honestly....I think we all deserve T-shirts in January that say "I survived FELS". Yikes... maybe we don't want people to know we really watched this. ;o) "
doris: I guess that's why we need to hang on to our screen names!
doris: I guess that's why we need to hang on to our screen names!
Cakes and Doris~~~HaHa...Well, actually , my new son-in-law is an investment banker and his friends were partying down all day and night. The weather made traveling to and from the ship a little nasty , but once we were all onboard , it was smooth sailing...pardon the pun. I have a photo of my best friend and I on either side of a pirate [some poor crew member they dressed up]...I couldn't resist the $15.00 souvenir...it made my giggle and think of RicricRic [even though he did not look anything like our dashing pirate. I read the recaps and comments, but I'm too tired to watch Friday's episode. I need a good night's sleep.
Permalink posted by : Sunday, September 28, 2008 at 8:25:00 PM EDT
: Sunday, September 28, 2008 at 8:25:00 PM EDT
Creemelo asks: why would writers create a villainess (Crabi) so cartoon-like, so one-dimensional, without one shred of humanity, that we laugh at her instead of hate her?
I think they created her that way so that we can laugh at her. Honest. I don't think it's a coincidence.
I think they created her that way so that we can laugh at her. Honest. I don't think it's a coincidence.
In case someone's confused about the doctors, I can try to clear it up:
The evil doctor is Dr. Gomez, aka Dr. Matasanos ("kills healthy people").
There have been two (good) general practitioners at the clinic: Dr. Montes (or something like that) and Dr. Mondragon. I can't remember which is which. One of them is the young guy who was on the show towards the beginning (when Franco was beaten nearly to death and almost drowned).
Then one day this other doctor showed up (I think it was after Grandpa's accident with Quinti) and said something like the other guy was doing vaccinations.
The two good doctors were in one episode together - it was the first time Gabi fainted for real, and Sofi or someone else was having some kind of problem too, so, miraculously, two doctors in town when before the padre and his donkey had to search all over the countryside just to find one.
But that was the last we saw of Good Doctor #1, I think.
Then there's Dr. Leonora and her father, the cardiologist - Dr. Castañedas, I think?
I believe that's all of the named doctors. There's still the brain tumor people and the burn specialists, but I don't think we know their names.
The evil doctor is Dr. Gomez, aka Dr. Matasanos ("kills healthy people").
There have been two (good) general practitioners at the clinic: Dr. Montes (or something like that) and Dr. Mondragon. I can't remember which is which. One of them is the young guy who was on the show towards the beginning (when Franco was beaten nearly to death and almost drowned).
Then one day this other doctor showed up (I think it was after Grandpa's accident with Quinti) and said something like the other guy was doing vaccinations.
The two good doctors were in one episode together - it was the first time Gabi fainted for real, and Sofi or someone else was having some kind of problem too, so, miraculously, two doctors in town when before the padre and his donkey had to search all over the countryside just to find one.
But that was the last we saw of Good Doctor #1, I think.
Then there's Dr. Leonora and her father, the cardiologist - Dr. Castañedas, I think?
I believe that's all of the named doctors. There's still the brain tumor people and the burn specialists, but I don't think we know their names.
Hi everyone. Just checking in. Chapter 4 of Para Siempre is posted. Have fun snarking away. diytelenovela.blogspot.com
Doris, Gata Salvaje was one of the first TN's I watched. As I recall it was pretty intense, lots of good girl vs bad girl drama, etc. As I recall the heroine was a spitfire who took guff from nobody.
Who played the galan in that one?
"Creemelo"
Who played the galan in that one?
"Creemelo"
Permalink posted by : Sunday, September 28, 2008 at 9:37:00 PM EDT
: Sunday, September 28, 2008 at 9:37:00 PM EDT
Okay, since this is the only TN I have watched I will work with the men I like here. EY would be my Rhett Buttler, chasing after a woman who doesn't appreciate him. Noble when he needs to be. Beautfully handsome and charming.
Jorge I would put in one of my favorite pirate movies, The Black Swan. His face is so expressive, he could totally step into Tyrone Powers role.
Pablo, who is growing on me 'cause he is just such a cutie, but I wasn't sure he really had the acting chops for some of my favorite roles, I give the role of Christian in Cyrano. The good looking one that Roxanne thinks she is love with, but they never speak because he really is not the sharpest tool in the shed.
Okay, and my second choice for EY, The Count of Montreo Christo, because he is over trusting in the beginning and way into seaking his revenge when he comes back!
Padre Tadeo, maybe Heaven Can Wait. Charming, sweet, confused by what is going on, but willing to follow a higher power.
Jorge I would put in one of my favorite pirate movies, The Black Swan. His face is so expressive, he could totally step into Tyrone Powers role.
Pablo, who is growing on me 'cause he is just such a cutie, but I wasn't sure he really had the acting chops for some of my favorite roles, I give the role of Christian in Cyrano. The good looking one that Roxanne thinks she is love with, but they never speak because he really is not the sharpest tool in the shed.
Okay, and my second choice for EY, The Count of Montreo Christo, because he is over trusting in the beginning and way into seaking his revenge when he comes back!
Padre Tadeo, maybe Heaven Can Wait. Charming, sweet, confused by what is going on, but willing to follow a higher power.
It is the same script this producter always does, He always has one really bad woman and one really bad man. Mundo had Joselyn & Damien, his hero & heroine are just dumber than dirt. Then a bunch of supporting good hearted people and a bunch of bad people..not quite as bad as the orginals, but bad. The good people pray, the bad people boink anything that moves.
It seems god never takes note of any bad behavior until the second to last episode and then the villians are finished off. Often they kill each other. Dropping one off a Church is another great fin. Yes, nothing slows down the big finale wedding like dangling the heroine off the church bell tower.
You think I'm kidding...Just wait.
It seems god never takes note of any bad behavior until the second to last episode and then the villians are finished off. Often they kill each other. Dropping one off a Church is another great fin. Yes, nothing slows down the big finale wedding like dangling the heroine off the church bell tower.
You think I'm kidding...Just wait.
JUAN...JUAN...JUAN...JUAN...JUAN...Please JUAN, come back. We need YOU to keep this mess of a plot together and to keep it moving forward. G in CA
Permalink posted by : Sunday, September 28, 2008 at 11:57:00 PM EDT
: Sunday, September 28, 2008 at 11:57:00 PM EDT
Molly, great ideas for dream roles. It's neat that you grabbed some classic roles. I went outside Fuego for my choices.
Fernando Colunga (from Pasion; TBLMOE) as John Carter of Mars, from Edgar Rice Burroughs' (of Tarzan fame) Barsoom series. Does everything to defend and honor the beautiful Deja Thoris (a Raquel Walsh type) against multi-armed monsters. High Chivalry. Lots of sword fighting. Our hero is noble, quiet, and always very heroic. And he wears nothing but a loincloth-type covering, and a leather-strap harness to hold his sword and dagger. With a costume like that, who needs a bathtub?
For Jaime Camil (of Fea), my best suggestion is The Shiek ala Valentino. Emotional yet withdrawn,
sophisticated yet wild. Camil has as much sensuality as Valentino. It would work as a novela or a movie. And those eyes peering out from under the headdress ... Want to see a peek? On this YouTube clip, see the poster somewhere between time hack 1:50 and 2:10.
And for his "conquest," how about Marisol del Olmo, the actress who played Jimena in Pasion? Rebellious, untamed, strong, but priceless to a man strong enough to match her.
Sue in NJ gave me an even better idea for Camil: the lead from The King and I. The exuberance, the boyish naiveté, the
pride-driven tantrums, the body control in both the dancing and the
physical acting. The only problem? The costume would expose his chicken-leg calves. Oh, well, nobody's perfect. I can't think of who could handle the female lead. The novela industry is not good at producing strong women IMHO.
Paula
Fernando Colunga (from Pasion; TBLMOE) as John Carter of Mars, from Edgar Rice Burroughs' (of Tarzan fame) Barsoom series. Does everything to defend and honor the beautiful Deja Thoris (a Raquel Walsh type) against multi-armed monsters. High Chivalry. Lots of sword fighting. Our hero is noble, quiet, and always very heroic. And he wears nothing but a loincloth-type covering, and a leather-strap harness to hold his sword and dagger. With a costume like that, who needs a bathtub?
For Jaime Camil (of Fea), my best suggestion is The Shiek ala Valentino. Emotional yet withdrawn,
sophisticated yet wild. Camil has as much sensuality as Valentino. It would work as a novela or a movie. And those eyes peering out from under the headdress ... Want to see a peek? On this YouTube clip, see the poster somewhere between time hack 1:50 and 2:10.
And for his "conquest," how about Marisol del Olmo, the actress who played Jimena in Pasion? Rebellious, untamed, strong, but priceless to a man strong enough to match her.
Sue in NJ gave me an even better idea for Camil: the lead from The King and I. The exuberance, the boyish naiveté, the
pride-driven tantrums, the body control in both the dancing and the
physical acting. The only problem? The costume would expose his chicken-leg calves. Oh, well, nobody's perfect. I can't think of who could handle the female lead. The novela industry is not good at producing strong women IMHO.
Paula
Permalink posted by : Monday, September 29, 2008 at 12:42:00 AM EDT
: Monday, September 29, 2008 at 12:42:00 AM EDT
My dream show is a Mexican version of I Love Lucy starring Jaime Camil and Angelica Vale. Who would play Fred and Ethel?
I need more ideas for our Telenovela. I'm trying to include everyone. This episode mentions Julie (Julietta), Maggie, Molly and Beckster.
Where can I find the DIY TN?? thanks!
Permalink posted by : Monday, September 29, 2008 at 12:12:00 PM EDT
: Monday, September 29, 2008 at 12:12:00 PM EDT
diytelenovela.blogspot.com. The newest episodes are at the top and I don't know how to change it or how to archive the old ones.
Thanks for the great recap.
I had to put FELS on hold for a bit since I'm still in a Javier Barden afterglow after watching Vicky Christina. OMG he is so delicious and charming - and since our Oscar has always reminded me of him, but is MIA, it helped ease the pain a bit.
POR FIN we finally got to see Feo get some of what's coming to him. I was finally able to sleep a little bit knowing this. Glad they finally threw us a bone.
I had to put FELS on hold for a bit since I'm still in a Javier Barden afterglow after watching Vicky Christina. OMG he is so delicious and charming - and since our Oscar has always reminded me of him, but is MIA, it helped ease the pain a bit.
POR FIN we finally got to see Feo get some of what's coming to him. I was finally able to sleep a little bit knowing this. Glad they finally threw us a bone.
Permalink posted by : Monday, September 29, 2008 at 12:41:00 PM EDT
: Monday, September 29, 2008 at 12:41:00 PM EDT
How about Snow White and the 7 dwarfs? We could have
Snow White: Sofia
Dopey: Franco and Oscar take turns
Grumpy: Gabriela
Doc: Dra. Leonora
Happy: Juan
Bashful: Benito or Rigo
Sneezy: Sarita
Sleepy: Jimena
Snow White: Sofia
Dopey: Franco and Oscar take turns
Grumpy: Gabriela
Doc: Dra. Leonora
Happy: Juan
Bashful: Benito or Rigo
Sneezy: Sarita
Sleepy: Jimena
Great recap Jardinera. I think EY is the heart of the show and miss him too. I may be wrong but from the brief previews, it doesn't look like he's in tonight's episode either.
I'd love to see Marisol del Olmo and Alberto Estrella (Jimena and Mario from Pasion) in Romeo and Juliet. Marisol was in La Rosa De Guadalupe on Friday night. She's beautiful and talented. I hope she is in another telenova soon. Diana in MA
I'd love to see Marisol del Olmo and Alberto Estrella (Jimena and Mario from Pasion) in Romeo and Juliet. Marisol was in La Rosa De Guadalupe on Friday night. She's beautiful and talented. I hope she is in another telenova soon. Diana in MA
Permalink posted by : Monday, September 29, 2008 at 1:41:00 PM EDT
: Monday, September 29, 2008 at 1:41:00 PM EDT
Anon. said: I'd love to see Marisol del Olmo and Alberto Estrella (Jimena and Mario from Pasion) in Romeo and Juliet.
If we're doing Shakespeare, I'd love to see those two in a remake of "Taming of the Shrew".
Jardinera, that ws a wonderful recap. Lyrical, yet snarky; flowing, yet succinct.
If FELS is a fairy tale, then Coyote is the gangsta fairy godfather. Loved his beatdown of Feo. That did my heart good, admidst all the silly stuff that happened.
Pablito showed excellent initiative in climbing up the balcony for a "mama hug" from Sofia. Pablito needs to be put in charge of the search for Juan, with Mariachi and Capricho to help.
Without Juan, things seem to be floundering more than usual.
La Paloma
If we're doing Shakespeare, I'd love to see those two in a remake of "Taming of the Shrew".
Jardinera, that ws a wonderful recap. Lyrical, yet snarky; flowing, yet succinct.
If FELS is a fairy tale, then Coyote is the gangsta fairy godfather. Loved his beatdown of Feo. That did my heart good, admidst all the silly stuff that happened.
Pablito showed excellent initiative in climbing up the balcony for a "mama hug" from Sofia. Pablito needs to be put in charge of the search for Juan, with Mariachi and Capricho to help.
Without Juan, things seem to be floundering more than usual.
La Paloma
Permalink posted by : Monday, September 29, 2008 at 2:53:00 PM EDT
: Monday, September 29, 2008 at 2:53:00 PM EDT
How about the actress who plays Sarita in The Quiet Man, maybe with EY as Sean Thornton. I don't like the character of Sarita, at least not at much right now, but there is something about the actress that I find very interesting when she is on screen.
Regarding Taming of the Shrew, there is a Chilean novela called La Fiera based on that story. I've only seen a few brief clips of it on YouTube, and already I'm hooked. I would LOVE to find it on disk. It doesn't have that cheesy feel of Mexican novelas. In fact it doesn't feel like a novela at all. Not a single "Sueltame" or "No puede ser" in the clips I saw. A female lead whose best asset is acting ability, not cleavage. Even the dialogue is at a higher vocabulary level - maybe the vocabulary in MX TN's is dumbed down.
Molly, re Nora Salinas who plays Sarita. She is quite a shape-changer - she can pull off many different "looks." Maybe she could play someone with multiple personalities!
Molly, re Nora Salinas who plays Sarita. She is quite a shape-changer - she can pull off many different "looks." Maybe she could play someone with multiple personalities!
Permalink posted by : Monday, September 29, 2008 at 4:34:00 PM EDT
: Monday, September 29, 2008 at 4:34:00 PM EDT
You know Juan has been gone two novella episodes... by my standards he should have washed up by now. If he's not here tonight then for sure he has to be dead. No one can survive this long...
I know we demand logic and yet we get none! I've just conformed to reading the recaps because I can't stomach this show anymore!
I know we demand logic and yet we get none! I've just conformed to reading the recaps because I can't stomach this show anymore!
And seriously can we get better writers for these novellas? I say lets right one and promote it. It can't be hard!
Molly, if Rosario is a Reyes then Franco did it with his half sister! Ewww! Remember the swimming, sex and singing with guitar on the blanket scene?
I think she will turn out to be Eva's bebe because of all the "youre like a mother to me even though your really not my mother" stuff. But how did she end up with Ofelia? Hmmm. We still haven't seen a face to face between Ofelia and Crabi have we? If so, we still don't know whether they know each other. I think that's a clue.
As to how the Dra. and Silvestre thing fits in, when Juan finally washes up, I'm sure he's in for some natural healing from Silvestre and Leonora, more PSA about holistic medicine and herbal knowlege coming from our noble savage. Then some sexual healing from Leonora, yowza!
randy, sea.
I think she will turn out to be Eva's bebe because of all the "youre like a mother to me even though your really not my mother" stuff. But how did she end up with Ofelia? Hmmm. We still haven't seen a face to face between Ofelia and Crabi have we? If so, we still don't know whether they know each other. I think that's a clue.
As to how the Dra. and Silvestre thing fits in, when Juan finally washes up, I'm sure he's in for some natural healing from Silvestre and Leonora, more PSA about holistic medicine and herbal knowlege coming from our noble savage. Then some sexual healing from Leonora, yowza!
randy, sea.
Permalink posted by : Monday, September 29, 2008 at 4:57:00 PM EDT
: Monday, September 29, 2008 at 4:57:00 PM EDT
" You know Juan has been gone two novella episodes... If he's not here tonight then for sure he has to be dead. No one can survive this long..."
This telenovela won't survive long if he's dead. I think he'll be back.
doris
This telenovela won't survive long if he's dead. I think he'll be back.
doris
Permalink posted by : Monday, September 29, 2008 at 5:12:00 PM EDT
: Monday, September 29, 2008 at 5:12:00 PM EDT
I think he is on vacation. I mean EY not Juan. Remember we didn't see Franco or Oscar for a day or two.Ximena will be gone a couple of days, too.
Permalink posted by : Monday, September 29, 2008 at 5:21:00 PM EDT
: Monday, September 29, 2008 at 5:21:00 PM EDT
Paula, I think she already does play someone with a multiple disorder! LOL! I do really like her.
Anon 4:57, I agree total EWWWW factor, but really funny. Did you ever see the Brady spoof movie when Greg and Marcia realize they aren't really related? It was really funny.
There has to be something that Gabby had on daddy Reyes for him to sign over the rights to a waterway. It any country, if you farm that is important! A baby seems the best reason. But then I am trying to apply sense in a place where none exists!
Anon 4:57, I agree total EWWWW factor, but really funny. Did you ever see the Brady spoof movie when Greg and Marcia realize they aren't really related? It was really funny.
There has to be something that Gabby had on daddy Reyes for him to sign over the rights to a waterway. It any country, if you farm that is important! A baby seems the best reason. But then I am trying to apply sense in a place where none exists!
I only just now finished watching this (nothing like waiting till the last minute). That poor doctor, having to listen to Gabi complain about how everyone in the world is awful except for her!
Forget about giving Jimena a tranquilizer - how about one for Gabi? A BIG one??
Forget about giving Jimena a tranquilizer - how about one for Gabi? A BIG one??
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