Saturday, December 06, 2008
Las tontas no van a cielo, Dec. 5, cap 5. Candy and Marissa spend more time together.
We’re treated to the kissing scene again. Ain’t it grand, we don’t have to wait 60 episodes for our heroes’ first kiss? It’s such a great way to start the show, I propose we review it. Any objections?
If Candy has any doubts whether Santiago likes kissing women, he is more than happy to provide plenty of proof with a big kiss. Since she is amazed by the audacity of the kiss, he feels it is his duty to make sure she understands it completely – with another demonstration. This time, instead of being amazed by the audacity, she is dazzled by the kiss itself, and she makes a feeble attempt to recover her cool. In a fury she wipes her mouth with the handkerchief, recalls that it is his hanky, and stores it for safekeeping, with a look that says she doesn’t completely hate him!
In DF (Mexico City), 17-year-old Charly is trying to make sense of the puzzle of his father. Mama Laura tries to explain that the marriage didn’t work. Charlie wants to know, “Why doesn’t he want to see me?”
Laura says, “He did, but I wouldn’t let him because he hurt me. He is an hombre equivocado (incorrect, mistaken). She warns Charlie to not look for him.
Candy and Lulu are decorating her new office with a poster that says, “Never lie to another woman.” Which implies that lying to men is peachy??? Candy tells Lu that the plastic doctor kissed her twice. Candy remembers when she and Veronica caught Alicia kissing a boy, and squeezed all the juicy details out of her. When they get to the tongue part, all young Candy can say is Guácala – gross! It sounds like Alicia has always been “accessible” to men.
Lulu is lost in dreamland, thinking about how romantic it must’ve been, to be kissed by those lips, while Candy keeps protesting that it was abuse – he opened his mouth like a shark and almost gobbled her up!
Pondering the plastic doctor who sells artificial beauty, Candy decides to devote her institute to inner beauty, surgery of the soul, and the refining of the emotions. While Candy waxes philosophical about inner beauty, Lulu is painting her face to welcome that dreamy doctor. If Candy suffered such abuse, Lulu wishes she’d get to suffer like that once in awhile. Some folks have all the luck! Ah, shark kisses!
Candy decides to go scream at Santiago for awhile. (Vocabulary: satiro. satyr or lecher.) She bullies her way past Hortensia and breaks in on Santiago and Marissa in a lip-lock. “Ah-ha! I caught you with your hand in the cookie jar (literally in the dough)! What are you, the kiss-delivery-boy of the building?”
Marissa wonders what this woman is doing here, and Santiago practices his “I’m cool; I have nothing to hide” façade, saying she wants me to fix those saggy boobs. Candy starts to explain, not about boobs, but kisses, and Santiago’s cool façade quickly desserts him, replaced by alarm, trying to shut her up. In response, Candy bites his finger. Marissa wants to know about these kisses. Candy accuses him of lying (and who would know better about lying?). Santiago is adamant that he doesn’t lie. His secretary is obligated to protest, “Ay, Doctor, por favor!” Santiago’s alarm quickly progresses to panic when Candy pulls Marissa out of the room to give her all the details.
In her new office, Candy tries to illuminate Marissa, woman to woman, that her boyfriend is a Don Juan. “Hold on, Honey,” warns Marissa. “I’m going to marry that man. Why should I believe you?”
Candy’s proof? “I’m a woman. (Y que?) I said he kissed me because he did. And if he does it again, I’ll take the garden shears to him, and you’ll be married to a eunuch.” (So far, Candy has kicked him in the jewels, bitten his finger, and threatened castration. And she says Santiago is abusive???)
Wandering through a park, Pat is detained by a palm reader. “You are chasing a ghost, someone who exists, and you don’t think exists. When you stop running, when you stop fleeing, she will come close to you. Pat yanks his hand away like he was electrocuted. Pat asks her name. “Candida. But they say (not ‘they call me’) Candy.” Pat is spooked by all this.
Candy scolds Chava for going to the park alone. Candy warns him, “If you tell lies, things will turn out bad. (Are you listening, Candy?) We promised we’d always tell each other the truth” Candy decides it’s time to show Chava a treasure from her childhood, the box of lies. When he wants to tell a lie, he should put it into the box so it can’t get out.
Marissa and Santiago march into his office arguing, while Hortensia sustains a very loud annoying tapping. Marissa wants him to come clean about this kissing thing. He puts on his most innocent voice and asks, “Do you really believe I’d be capable of kissing anyone other than you, my sweet?”
“In a New York second!” She reminds him that he always surrounds himself with beautiful women, but of course he justifies that it is strictly professional. As the high priest of beauty… no, she’s not buying that one, either. By the way, notice the woman in the red sweater sitting on the couch? Her name is Eileen, because if you were built like that, you’d lean too!
In Santiago’s office, Candy has placed the sign, “Don’t buy into unconditional love. Men have their brain are between their legs.” Santiago disputes this. “What a lie! Then if we didn’t have the reproductive equipment..” Someone help me. The cc says, “que piensan mejor que la otra pero iguales.” That one ‘beat my lips” (old Army term for a passage that baffles the translator).
In the restaurant, Candy demands to know why Chava found Meño crying, but he refuses to answer. She asks the waiters, whom I call Sven and Ole (rhymes with holy), whether Meño was crying. Sven says he must’ve broken up with his boyfriend. Loosely translated, “Don’t get me wrong,” he explains. “I’m as modern as the next guy. It doesn’t bother me at all. Who he likes doesn’t make him any less of a man. Less macho, of course. And rather loose in the hips. Oh, and the way he sashays. And it’s just not right, what he does with his hanky…” He finally notices how Candy is glaring at him. “Um, I think I’d better stop.” Ole doesn’t get it. Why did Sven say all that? Meño is a man. In answer, Sven demonstrates Meño’s sashay.
Candy gets a phone call. “Who is this?”
Santiago answers, “It’s the kiss you want, the satyr, the long tongue, El Tiburon (all the the words Candy used when she was bullying Hortensia). He thanks her for the delightful poster she put in his office, and advises her that he returned the favor. She tries to protest that he can’t do such a thing, but she’s left speaking to the dial tone. All the while, Hortensia is helping him put on his lab coat, while helping herself to his shoulders, his chest, his arms... At one point he complains that she “hace manita de puerco” – make the hoof of the pig. It’s an idiom used like we use “twist my arm,” but she is literally twisting his arm. Is this a play on words with feet in two languages?
In his office, Raúl is reading Candy’s first column to his sister. “Why don’t wives know their husbands’ salaries?” He thinks the column is fabulous; Marissa couldn’t care less.
She is tormented; “I think Santiago has a mistress.”
Raúl, the understanding, protector big brother says, “Oh, is that all? We all do! So marry him already!” Raúl offers to talk to him. No, Marissa will handle it herself. She determines, he’s not gonna’ get away. She’s gonna’ bag herself a doctor husband; she refuses to be the eternal novia of some womanizer, believe you me.
The poster Santiago put in Candy’s office reads, “Why are women almost perfect? Because they come from the rib of a man.” (Notice that every time people see a sign, they read it aloud? Maybe Televisa assumes that an important part of their audience is illiterate.)
In the restaurant kitchen, Meño is gathering his strength to tell Candy her father died. Meño remembers the happy, simple time when he was living a lie. His brother sent him away for being who he is. Lulu doesn’t understand, and Meño wishes the whole world were as naïve as Lulu.
Santiago and Candy are holding dueling posters.
Candy: “That’s just how I am (never a good excuse for bad behavior). I always say what I think.”
Santiago: “You represent everything men do to destroy me.”
Santiago: “I didn’t hurt you, Candy.”
Candy: “Of course you did. You kissed me. It’s a game to you, and I don’t want to play. That’s what hurt me.”
Santiago: “Forgive me. I wasn’t trying to hurt you.”
Candy: “Well, it did. It makes me feel like all men will deceive me.”
Santiago puts both signs away, in an effort to stop throwing accusations.
Santiago: “You want the truth? I liked the kiss. I like kissing you very much. I don’t want to make you feel bad, but I enjoy kissing you.”
She steps toward him so they’re almost touching, chest to chest, and she cranes her head forward, while she tries to convince him that she doesn’t like it at all. And what’s more, I have this bridge for sale. She tells him, “Don’t try to be friends. You’re my enemy.” She turns on her heel and leaves.
Santiago continues the conversation by himself. “She liked it. And she likes me too.”
She pokes her head in the door. “Did not!”
Candy is in the kitchen with onion tears. Meño breaks the news: her father died a year ago. Candy does the only thing she knows how, when something bad happens. She runs away. She takes out the handkerchief, Santiago’s handkerchief, and takes some comfort, some strength from it.
Meanwhile, Santiago and Ed are hauling a heavy potted plant into the lobby. Actually Ed is hefting the load; Santiago is supervising. He explains that it is a peace offering. He kissed her and she didn’t want him to. Candy dashes by, crying.
Santiago chases after her, and finds her collapsed on the floor of her office, crying. The very way he kneels down conveys his compassion. “My papa died.” Santiago is deeply moved. He holds her; there’s nothing else he can do. He offers to take her there; she needs to be with family right now. She says Meño is her only family. Well then she needs to handle his affairs. She’s perplexed. She tells him, “No, I’m dead too.” Santiago realizes this is not the time for reason.
Back at their house, Lucía and Rocío are scrapping like sisters. Lucía calls her nosy; Rocío like every little sister ever born, says “I’m gonna’ tell!” Lucía imagines her new self, after she convinces her tío to give her a boob job.
Santiago has come to Meño to try to decipher Candy’s reaction to her father’s death; he wants to take her back for the funeral. Meño says they’ve already buried him. Santiago wants to know, how could they? His own daughter just learned of his death. Meño hustles him out.
Waiter Sven gets a phone call, and makes a big flourish, for Ole’s sake, of sweet-talking the woman on the other end, who is apparently jealous of how he’s spending his time. Ole takes it all in, including the point when Sven loses his cool, and whispers, “NO! I won’t be late, Mama!” Sven turns and sees Ole; Busted! Ole speculates that Sven is still attached at the umbilical cord.
In Soledad’s apartment, Beto asks when his papa will come back from California. Soledad dodges as best she can. Beto says, “If he doesn’t come back, it means he doesn’t love me. Send him a letter and tell him I want to be with him.”
At Santiago’s dinner table, he mentions Rocío’s day in the hippy van, and also whispers that he was created in that van. Now, THAT’S an overshare! Lucía starts to ask her tío for something. “As long as it’s not a car (sore subject).” She starts to explain that it’s about her birthday present, but Isabela shushes her. Note the simple smile and nod that Santiago gives his mama. He completely trusts her judgment and admires her wisdom.
Back at Casa de Meño, he and Candy are discussing her father. Yes, he was hardheaded. Candy adds that he cheated on her mother. But still, he was wonderful. He gave her Grandma’s medallion. Notice that Candy recognizes that her father had serious faults, but still she loved him. On the other hand, she is completely intolerant of faults in anyone else.
She remembers her quinciñera. Pat enters, and Gregoria is scandalized that the boss’s son should see their nacos party. Pat started dating Candy as of her quinciñera. Since that is traditionally when a girl may start dating, Pat was “waiting at the door” for the first moment she would become available. Likewise, they made love the day she turned 18, the moment she became legally available. Say what you like about Pat, but his love/obsession for Candy is deeply rooted.
Candy asks Meño about his divorce. He explains to her that Clem forced him to marry Laura, with the intention of “curing” him. Poor Laura got pregnant right away, but after Charly was born Meño couldn’t tolerate living a lie anymore. Candy asks, “And they gave you up for dead?” Exactly. Candy asserts that it’s just the same as her situation, but she is conveniently forgetting just a few minor details – that she is living a lie, that she caused unbelievable heartbreak to her family and Pat, that she brought on her father’s death, that she is depriving her son of his father and the father of his son, that she made the decision to be “dead” rather than having it forced upon her, that seven years later she is filled with bitterness not only for Pat but for all men… but other than that, we’re exactly the same. Yeah, Honey, nice try. A otro perro con eso hueso (throw that bone to another dog).!
Candy regrets that she didn’t get to give her papa one last hug
Meanwhile, Charly is still working on his mama, about finding his father. She realizes he won’t relent, so she gives Charly his last known address.
Santiago and his mama are so cute together, please indulge me while I detail an insignificant conversation. What is he doing? Why, he’s checking that his personal things are still arranged perfectly like he likes them. She recalls, as a child, how he would make sure his socks were perfectly lined up, arranged by color. Her words, her voice, her hands, her eyes all convey how much it baffles her, his need for perfect order. He certainly didn’t get it from her, nor from his papa. His bearing equally communicates how perfectly normal it is to want things that way, just as nature itself. “But I imagine you didn’t come here to discuss my obsessive-compulsive disorder (trastorno).” For just an instant, the actress has to stifle a laugh, but she quickly composes herself. I wonder it this bit was thrown in as a reflection of Camil himself. I could believe it of him.
Isabela says that for Lucía’s birthday, she wants … new boobies.
Santiago absentmindedly says, “Then buy them for her.”
Mama says, “What?”
Santiago shrieks, ”WHAT???”
Pardon me, I love the timing on this scene; I love the magnificent chemistry between these two. The love between them just glows, and their scenes together are magical. I haven’t seen any of Silvia Mariscal’s other work, but my theory is that she is a very talented actress, and both of them are delighted to share a scene with someone of comparable skill. Just my theory.
Mama explains that one of her friends got plastic surgery for her fifteenth birthday. Santiago goes into a rant; this is obviously a topic that pushes his buttons. “Well isn’t that just dandy? She’s nuts! No, her parents are nuts for giving their permission. I would never operate on a girl that age.” Isabela warns him to tread lightly when he talks to Lucía because she has her hopes set on it (anda muy illusionada con eso).
Meño, finding Candy asleep in Chava’s room, sends her off to bed, blesses Chava, and makes sure he’s well tucked in. In contrast, on the other side of town, Pat can’t sleep, disturbed once again by nightmares and memories. And no thank you, he responds to the woman who instigated his life’s destruction, he doesn’t want to talk about it.
Candy, sleeping peacefully on her Target-Stores-sponsored pillow, is visited by her father, there to get the hug she regrets not giving him while he was alive. She asks his forgiveness for her lie (doesn’t true penitence also require repentance?).
Candy comes down to breakfast in a mood as bright as the Meño’s décor. They banter about Chava’s future as a chef (or soccer player). Candy tells Tío about her dream, and now she feels at peace about her father’s death. (Too bad she doesn’t have any extra peace to share with her suffering mama.)
Santiago enters the operating room and the nurses put on his smock, gloves, and mask. His patient wishes he would’ve done that before he spread his germs in the room. Ed is disgusted by what his wife wants. “Is it a divorce?” Santiago asks. “Is she finally divorcing you?” No, worse than that, she wants a job. Santiago doesn’t understand why that should bother his philandering, chauvinistic, Philistine buddy. Perhaps because then she won’t be able to wait on him hand and foot, and leap to his every whim, the purpose Ed believes women were created for.
Santiago asks the nurse to turn on music to operate by. Today it will be by Camila (a favorite of Jaime Camil), “Todo Cambió,” another shout-out to LFMB. The doctor famous for boobs, butts, and bags (under the eyes) starts his incision on the bellybutton. Perhaps he is a famous navel architect as well.
After surgery, Santiago surprises Marissa searching his private computer files. She scolds him for keeping her waiting for an hour and a half. He promises to make it up to her. How might that be, she wonders, as she twiddles his chest hair to inspire a few ideas. His perfect pay-back? “We’ll make a date this weekend, and you can be an hour and a half late for me!” It appears that Santiago is losing his appetite for the Galatea (or Frankenstein) he sculpted from the thighs up. Marissa has to take out the blowtorch to try to force that fire back to life. Santiago may be losing his appetite, but it’s not gone entirely. Apparantly he can still stomach just one more piece of tart.
In an upscale antiques gallery, Alicia is coaxing Pat to let her work for him. He resists the idea because he’s immersed in serious business; she’d be out of her league. She flirts her way into the position.
Monday: Santiago reserves Meño’s whole restaurant for a special romantic evening. I apologize that this took me so long; I’m still pretty slow at the process. I welcome any and all corrections or additions of points I missed. None of us is as smart as all of us, and you don’t have to worry about stepping on my toes. I have very short toes, and you have to aim VERY carefully if you want to step on them.
If Candy has any doubts whether Santiago likes kissing women, he is more than happy to provide plenty of proof with a big kiss. Since she is amazed by the audacity of the kiss, he feels it is his duty to make sure she understands it completely – with another demonstration. This time, instead of being amazed by the audacity, she is dazzled by the kiss itself, and she makes a feeble attempt to recover her cool. In a fury she wipes her mouth with the handkerchief, recalls that it is his hanky, and stores it for safekeeping, with a look that says she doesn’t completely hate him!
In DF (Mexico City), 17-year-old Charly is trying to make sense of the puzzle of his father. Mama Laura tries to explain that the marriage didn’t work. Charlie wants to know, “Why doesn’t he want to see me?”
Laura says, “He did, but I wouldn’t let him because he hurt me. He is an hombre equivocado (incorrect, mistaken). She warns Charlie to not look for him.
Candy and Lulu are decorating her new office with a poster that says, “Never lie to another woman.” Which implies that lying to men is peachy??? Candy tells Lu that the plastic doctor kissed her twice. Candy remembers when she and Veronica caught Alicia kissing a boy, and squeezed all the juicy details out of her. When they get to the tongue part, all young Candy can say is Guácala – gross! It sounds like Alicia has always been “accessible” to men.
Lulu is lost in dreamland, thinking about how romantic it must’ve been, to be kissed by those lips, while Candy keeps protesting that it was abuse – he opened his mouth like a shark and almost gobbled her up!
Pondering the plastic doctor who sells artificial beauty, Candy decides to devote her institute to inner beauty, surgery of the soul, and the refining of the emotions. While Candy waxes philosophical about inner beauty, Lulu is painting her face to welcome that dreamy doctor. If Candy suffered such abuse, Lulu wishes she’d get to suffer like that once in awhile. Some folks have all the luck! Ah, shark kisses!
Candy decides to go scream at Santiago for awhile. (Vocabulary: satiro. satyr or lecher.) She bullies her way past Hortensia and breaks in on Santiago and Marissa in a lip-lock. “Ah-ha! I caught you with your hand in the cookie jar (literally in the dough)! What are you, the kiss-delivery-boy of the building?”
Marissa wonders what this woman is doing here, and Santiago practices his “I’m cool; I have nothing to hide” façade, saying she wants me to fix those saggy boobs. Candy starts to explain, not about boobs, but kisses, and Santiago’s cool façade quickly desserts him, replaced by alarm, trying to shut her up. In response, Candy bites his finger. Marissa wants to know about these kisses. Candy accuses him of lying (and who would know better about lying?). Santiago is adamant that he doesn’t lie. His secretary is obligated to protest, “Ay, Doctor, por favor!” Santiago’s alarm quickly progresses to panic when Candy pulls Marissa out of the room to give her all the details.
In her new office, Candy tries to illuminate Marissa, woman to woman, that her boyfriend is a Don Juan. “Hold on, Honey,” warns Marissa. “I’m going to marry that man. Why should I believe you?”
Candy’s proof? “I’m a woman. (Y que?) I said he kissed me because he did. And if he does it again, I’ll take the garden shears to him, and you’ll be married to a eunuch.” (So far, Candy has kicked him in the jewels, bitten his finger, and threatened castration. And she says Santiago is abusive???)
Wandering through a park, Pat is detained by a palm reader. “You are chasing a ghost, someone who exists, and you don’t think exists. When you stop running, when you stop fleeing, she will come close to you. Pat yanks his hand away like he was electrocuted. Pat asks her name. “Candida. But they say (not ‘they call me’) Candy.” Pat is spooked by all this.
Candy scolds Chava for going to the park alone. Candy warns him, “If you tell lies, things will turn out bad. (Are you listening, Candy?) We promised we’d always tell each other the truth” Candy decides it’s time to show Chava a treasure from her childhood, the box of lies. When he wants to tell a lie, he should put it into the box so it can’t get out.
Marissa and Santiago march into his office arguing, while Hortensia sustains a very loud annoying tapping. Marissa wants him to come clean about this kissing thing. He puts on his most innocent voice and asks, “Do you really believe I’d be capable of kissing anyone other than you, my sweet?”
“In a New York second!” She reminds him that he always surrounds himself with beautiful women, but of course he justifies that it is strictly professional. As the high priest of beauty… no, she’s not buying that one, either. By the way, notice the woman in the red sweater sitting on the couch? Her name is Eileen, because if you were built like that, you’d lean too!
In Santiago’s office, Candy has placed the sign, “Don’t buy into unconditional love. Men have their brain are between their legs.” Santiago disputes this. “What a lie! Then if we didn’t have the reproductive equipment..” Someone help me. The cc says, “que piensan mejor que la otra pero iguales.” That one ‘beat my lips” (old Army term for a passage that baffles the translator).
In the restaurant, Candy demands to know why Chava found Meño crying, but he refuses to answer. She asks the waiters, whom I call Sven and Ole (rhymes with holy), whether Meño was crying. Sven says he must’ve broken up with his boyfriend. Loosely translated, “Don’t get me wrong,” he explains. “I’m as modern as the next guy. It doesn’t bother me at all. Who he likes doesn’t make him any less of a man. Less macho, of course. And rather loose in the hips. Oh, and the way he sashays. And it’s just not right, what he does with his hanky…” He finally notices how Candy is glaring at him. “Um, I think I’d better stop.” Ole doesn’t get it. Why did Sven say all that? Meño is a man. In answer, Sven demonstrates Meño’s sashay.
Candy gets a phone call. “Who is this?”
Santiago answers, “It’s the kiss you want, the satyr, the long tongue, El Tiburon (all the the words Candy used when she was bullying Hortensia). He thanks her for the delightful poster she put in his office, and advises her that he returned the favor. She tries to protest that he can’t do such a thing, but she’s left speaking to the dial tone. All the while, Hortensia is helping him put on his lab coat, while helping herself to his shoulders, his chest, his arms... At one point he complains that she “hace manita de puerco” – make the hoof of the pig. It’s an idiom used like we use “twist my arm,” but she is literally twisting his arm. Is this a play on words with feet in two languages?
In his office, Raúl is reading Candy’s first column to his sister. “Why don’t wives know their husbands’ salaries?” He thinks the column is fabulous; Marissa couldn’t care less.
She is tormented; “I think Santiago has a mistress.”
Raúl, the understanding, protector big brother says, “Oh, is that all? We all do! So marry him already!” Raúl offers to talk to him. No, Marissa will handle it herself. She determines, he’s not gonna’ get away. She’s gonna’ bag herself a doctor husband; she refuses to be the eternal novia of some womanizer, believe you me.
The poster Santiago put in Candy’s office reads, “Why are women almost perfect? Because they come from the rib of a man.” (Notice that every time people see a sign, they read it aloud? Maybe Televisa assumes that an important part of their audience is illiterate.)
In the restaurant kitchen, Meño is gathering his strength to tell Candy her father died. Meño remembers the happy, simple time when he was living a lie. His brother sent him away for being who he is. Lulu doesn’t understand, and Meño wishes the whole world were as naïve as Lulu.
Santiago and Candy are holding dueling posters.
Candy: “That’s just how I am (never a good excuse for bad behavior). I always say what I think.”
Santiago: “You represent everything men do to destroy me.”
Santiago: “I didn’t hurt you, Candy.”
Candy: “Of course you did. You kissed me. It’s a game to you, and I don’t want to play. That’s what hurt me.”
Santiago: “Forgive me. I wasn’t trying to hurt you.”
Candy: “Well, it did. It makes me feel like all men will deceive me.”
Santiago puts both signs away, in an effort to stop throwing accusations.
Santiago: “You want the truth? I liked the kiss. I like kissing you very much. I don’t want to make you feel bad, but I enjoy kissing you.”
She steps toward him so they’re almost touching, chest to chest, and she cranes her head forward, while she tries to convince him that she doesn’t like it at all. And what’s more, I have this bridge for sale. She tells him, “Don’t try to be friends. You’re my enemy.” She turns on her heel and leaves.
Santiago continues the conversation by himself. “She liked it. And she likes me too.”
She pokes her head in the door. “Did not!”
Candy is in the kitchen with onion tears. Meño breaks the news: her father died a year ago. Candy does the only thing she knows how, when something bad happens. She runs away. She takes out the handkerchief, Santiago’s handkerchief, and takes some comfort, some strength from it.
Meanwhile, Santiago and Ed are hauling a heavy potted plant into the lobby. Actually Ed is hefting the load; Santiago is supervising. He explains that it is a peace offering. He kissed her and she didn’t want him to. Candy dashes by, crying.
Santiago chases after her, and finds her collapsed on the floor of her office, crying. The very way he kneels down conveys his compassion. “My papa died.” Santiago is deeply moved. He holds her; there’s nothing else he can do. He offers to take her there; she needs to be with family right now. She says Meño is her only family. Well then she needs to handle his affairs. She’s perplexed. She tells him, “No, I’m dead too.” Santiago realizes this is not the time for reason.
Back at their house, Lucía and Rocío are scrapping like sisters. Lucía calls her nosy; Rocío like every little sister ever born, says “I’m gonna’ tell!” Lucía imagines her new self, after she convinces her tío to give her a boob job.
Santiago has come to Meño to try to decipher Candy’s reaction to her father’s death; he wants to take her back for the funeral. Meño says they’ve already buried him. Santiago wants to know, how could they? His own daughter just learned of his death. Meño hustles him out.
Waiter Sven gets a phone call, and makes a big flourish, for Ole’s sake, of sweet-talking the woman on the other end, who is apparently jealous of how he’s spending his time. Ole takes it all in, including the point when Sven loses his cool, and whispers, “NO! I won’t be late, Mama!” Sven turns and sees Ole; Busted! Ole speculates that Sven is still attached at the umbilical cord.
In Soledad’s apartment, Beto asks when his papa will come back from California. Soledad dodges as best she can. Beto says, “If he doesn’t come back, it means he doesn’t love me. Send him a letter and tell him I want to be with him.”
At Santiago’s dinner table, he mentions Rocío’s day in the hippy van, and also whispers that he was created in that van. Now, THAT’S an overshare! Lucía starts to ask her tío for something. “As long as it’s not a car (sore subject).” She starts to explain that it’s about her birthday present, but Isabela shushes her. Note the simple smile and nod that Santiago gives his mama. He completely trusts her judgment and admires her wisdom.
Back at Casa de Meño, he and Candy are discussing her father. Yes, he was hardheaded. Candy adds that he cheated on her mother. But still, he was wonderful. He gave her Grandma’s medallion. Notice that Candy recognizes that her father had serious faults, but still she loved him. On the other hand, she is completely intolerant of faults in anyone else.
She remembers her quinciñera. Pat enters, and Gregoria is scandalized that the boss’s son should see their nacos party. Pat started dating Candy as of her quinciñera. Since that is traditionally when a girl may start dating, Pat was “waiting at the door” for the first moment she would become available. Likewise, they made love the day she turned 18, the moment she became legally available. Say what you like about Pat, but his love/obsession for Candy is deeply rooted.
Candy asks Meño about his divorce. He explains to her that Clem forced him to marry Laura, with the intention of “curing” him. Poor Laura got pregnant right away, but after Charly was born Meño couldn’t tolerate living a lie anymore. Candy asks, “And they gave you up for dead?” Exactly. Candy asserts that it’s just the same as her situation, but she is conveniently forgetting just a few minor details – that she is living a lie, that she caused unbelievable heartbreak to her family and Pat, that she brought on her father’s death, that she is depriving her son of his father and the father of his son, that she made the decision to be “dead” rather than having it forced upon her, that seven years later she is filled with bitterness not only for Pat but for all men… but other than that, we’re exactly the same. Yeah, Honey, nice try. A otro perro con eso hueso (throw that bone to another dog).!
Candy regrets that she didn’t get to give her papa one last hug
Meanwhile, Charly is still working on his mama, about finding his father. She realizes he won’t relent, so she gives Charly his last known address.
Santiago and his mama are so cute together, please indulge me while I detail an insignificant conversation. What is he doing? Why, he’s checking that his personal things are still arranged perfectly like he likes them. She recalls, as a child, how he would make sure his socks were perfectly lined up, arranged by color. Her words, her voice, her hands, her eyes all convey how much it baffles her, his need for perfect order. He certainly didn’t get it from her, nor from his papa. His bearing equally communicates how perfectly normal it is to want things that way, just as nature itself. “But I imagine you didn’t come here to discuss my obsessive-compulsive disorder (trastorno).” For just an instant, the actress has to stifle a laugh, but she quickly composes herself. I wonder it this bit was thrown in as a reflection of Camil himself. I could believe it of him.
Isabela says that for Lucía’s birthday, she wants … new boobies.
Santiago absentmindedly says, “Then buy them for her.”
Mama says, “What?”
Santiago shrieks, ”WHAT???”
Pardon me, I love the timing on this scene; I love the magnificent chemistry between these two. The love between them just glows, and their scenes together are magical. I haven’t seen any of Silvia Mariscal’s other work, but my theory is that she is a very talented actress, and both of them are delighted to share a scene with someone of comparable skill. Just my theory.
Mama explains that one of her friends got plastic surgery for her fifteenth birthday. Santiago goes into a rant; this is obviously a topic that pushes his buttons. “Well isn’t that just dandy? She’s nuts! No, her parents are nuts for giving their permission. I would never operate on a girl that age.” Isabela warns him to tread lightly when he talks to Lucía because she has her hopes set on it (anda muy illusionada con eso).
Meño, finding Candy asleep in Chava’s room, sends her off to bed, blesses Chava, and makes sure he’s well tucked in. In contrast, on the other side of town, Pat can’t sleep, disturbed once again by nightmares and memories. And no thank you, he responds to the woman who instigated his life’s destruction, he doesn’t want to talk about it.
Candy, sleeping peacefully on her Target-Stores-sponsored pillow, is visited by her father, there to get the hug she regrets not giving him while he was alive. She asks his forgiveness for her lie (doesn’t true penitence also require repentance?).
Candy comes down to breakfast in a mood as bright as the Meño’s décor. They banter about Chava’s future as a chef (or soccer player). Candy tells Tío about her dream, and now she feels at peace about her father’s death. (Too bad she doesn’t have any extra peace to share with her suffering mama.)
Santiago enters the operating room and the nurses put on his smock, gloves, and mask. His patient wishes he would’ve done that before he spread his germs in the room. Ed is disgusted by what his wife wants. “Is it a divorce?” Santiago asks. “Is she finally divorcing you?” No, worse than that, she wants a job. Santiago doesn’t understand why that should bother his philandering, chauvinistic, Philistine buddy. Perhaps because then she won’t be able to wait on him hand and foot, and leap to his every whim, the purpose Ed believes women were created for.
Santiago asks the nurse to turn on music to operate by. Today it will be by Camila (a favorite of Jaime Camil), “Todo Cambió,” another shout-out to LFMB. The doctor famous for boobs, butts, and bags (under the eyes) starts his incision on the bellybutton. Perhaps he is a famous navel architect as well.
After surgery, Santiago surprises Marissa searching his private computer files. She scolds him for keeping her waiting for an hour and a half. He promises to make it up to her. How might that be, she wonders, as she twiddles his chest hair to inspire a few ideas. His perfect pay-back? “We’ll make a date this weekend, and you can be an hour and a half late for me!” It appears that Santiago is losing his appetite for the Galatea (or Frankenstein) he sculpted from the thighs up. Marissa has to take out the blowtorch to try to force that fire back to life. Santiago may be losing his appetite, but it’s not gone entirely. Apparantly he can still stomach just one more piece of tart.
In an upscale antiques gallery, Alicia is coaxing Pat to let her work for him. He resists the idea because he’s immersed in serious business; she’d be out of her league. She flirts her way into the position.
Monday: Santiago reserves Meño’s whole restaurant for a special romantic evening. I apologize that this took me so long; I’m still pretty slow at the process. I welcome any and all corrections or additions of points I missed. None of us is as smart as all of us, and you don’t have to worry about stepping on my toes. I have very short toes, and you have to aim VERY carefully if you want to step on them.
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Thanks Paula for a well written recap. I haven't really caught on to the story line yet. So, this sure sounds complete to me. But if there's more ... I can hardly wait. I'm sure I'll enjoy that too.
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: Saturday, December 6, 2008 at 4:41:00 PM EST
: Saturday, December 6, 2008 at 4:41:00 PM EST
Man, the people in this novela speak at least twice as fast as the Fuego folks, which figures, because they're trying to make Fuego twice as long as it should be, but I am very glad I'm not trying to recap it. My closed captions are still wrecked and they are yammering at 70 miles an hour!! You're doing great, Paula!
I love how you're pointing out the discrepancy between Candi's belligerant emphasis on telling the truth when she's living a major (and very hurtful) lie herself. Good call, amiga! Looking forward to the rest of it.
Can't help you with the reproductive system quote but I imagine Margarita can.
Welcome Missy! Good to hear from you.
Can't help you with the reproductive system quote but I imagine Margarita can.
Welcome Missy! Good to hear from you.
"Apparently he can stomach just one more piece of tart". Ouch! But that's okay, we DON't like Marissa.
Surprised that Candi could be so quickly at peace about missing her dad's death. By next morning, bright as a penny. That must have been some dream.
Oh well, Why quibble? OSU just beat 7th ranked Notre Dame. I'm smiling in spite of shoveling the driveway twice tonight.
Surprised that Candi could be so quickly at peace about missing her dad's death. By next morning, bright as a penny. That must have been some dream.
Oh well, Why quibble? OSU just beat 7th ranked Notre Dame. I'm smiling in spite of shoveling the driveway twice tonight.
Paula, that was really great, very entertaining. Thanks!
I can't warm up to Candi yet. Letting her parents believe she was dead, then being distraught to find out her father was dead, but then resolving everything happily for herself with a dream kind of put me off. And her insults, kicking and biting of Santiago are kind of childish. But I like her relationship with Chava.
I like Santi's mom, and as Paula pointed out, they have a great relationship.
I can't warm up to Candi yet. Letting her parents believe she was dead, then being distraught to find out her father was dead, but then resolving everything happily for herself with a dream kind of put me off. And her insults, kicking and biting of Santiago are kind of childish. But I like her relationship with Chava.
I like Santi's mom, and as Paula pointed out, they have a great relationship.
Paula, great recap. I really liked your take on the relationship between Santiago and his mother.
I feel your pain finding recapping a slow process. Some people can do it quickly, but I'm not one of them.
I feel your pain finding recapping a slow process. Some people can do it quickly, but I'm not one of them.
Awesome recap Paula =) For Friday shows, I wouldn't feel bad as long as you get them out by Sunday night.
I think Santiago was trying to say that men are smarter or think more than women, but how that correlates to having your brain in the nether regions escapes me. Maybe he was trying to say that women weren't smart if they thought it was in the nether regions? Dunno.
Yes, "manita de puerco" literally means pork hand, and refers to twisting someone's arm, but this is an actual twisting. It's something kids do when roughhousing or something an older sibling will do to get their way, or something you do in a comedy show when one person is making another one do something by literally twisting their arm until they give in.
In a surprising twist, Alicia actually gets her job by proving she knows quite a bit about the pottery Pat sells. The flirting didn't hurt, but Pat didn't take her seriously until she described the process.
I'm with you guys on the Santiago/Isabel relationship. They work nicely together. I gotta say, in spite of Santi's womanizing ways, he's actually a pretty decent human being. There are plenty of sleazy surgeons who wouldn't think twice about putting implants on a teenage girl, in spite of the fact that they are still developing. It's great to know he has some ethics (though not enough not to sleep with his patients!).
I think Santiago was trying to say that men are smarter or think more than women, but how that correlates to having your brain in the nether regions escapes me. Maybe he was trying to say that women weren't smart if they thought it was in the nether regions? Dunno.
Yes, "manita de puerco" literally means pork hand, and refers to twisting someone's arm, but this is an actual twisting. It's something kids do when roughhousing or something an older sibling will do to get their way, or something you do in a comedy show when one person is making another one do something by literally twisting their arm until they give in.
In a surprising twist, Alicia actually gets her job by proving she knows quite a bit about the pottery Pat sells. The flirting didn't hurt, but Pat didn't take her seriously until she described the process.
I'm with you guys on the Santiago/Isabel relationship. They work nicely together. I gotta say, in spite of Santi's womanizing ways, he's actually a pretty decent human being. There are plenty of sleazy surgeons who wouldn't think twice about putting implants on a teenage girl, in spite of the fact that they are still developing. It's great to know he has some ethics (though not enough not to sleep with his patients!).
Triple thanks, Margarita. Regarding the brain in the nether regions, could Santiago be saying that impairs men so much that their thinking ability is therefore equal to women's? Just a guess.
Thank you for the correction on Ali in the gallery. Notice it was the last scene? By that time I was exhausted, I don't care much about Alicia, and the vocabulary was well over my head. I confees I "threw a dart" regarding that description, and I missed. I'm glad you could make it right.
"manita de puerca" - Ya entendí! My immigrant friends tell me it's the same as "twist my arm," but the pig reference made me think it was part of the butchering process. Now I get it - if you twist my arm it's shaped piggy-ish.
Margarita, how would you rate Isabela's acting compared to a typical Televisa actress? Does my theory have merit?
As for Santiago, he's not a slimeball like his buddy Ed. He's honorable and upright in a whole swarm of interactions - adores his mother, committed to his girls, indulges homely Hortensia and Lulu with an arm over the shoulder, and is considerate of the needs of Candy's family when her father dies. Look at his sincere compassion for Candy when he tries to make amends in his office: "I'm sorry. It wasn't my intention to hurt you." And Hortensia said he didn't chase skirts when they were in DF.
I propose that he's honorable outside of his womanizing. He loved his wife so much (as an honorable man would) that when she abandoned him, it nearly destroyed him. In desparation, he disconnected his heart from all relationships with women to escape ever being destroyed again. He's a decent man, and he lives decently in all other aspects, but he's gone haywire where it comes to women. Every galan needs a tragic flaw.
Feel free to dispute me. That's half the fun!
Thank you for the correction on Ali in the gallery. Notice it was the last scene? By that time I was exhausted, I don't care much about Alicia, and the vocabulary was well over my head. I confees I "threw a dart" regarding that description, and I missed. I'm glad you could make it right.
"manita de puerca" - Ya entendí! My immigrant friends tell me it's the same as "twist my arm," but the pig reference made me think it was part of the butchering process. Now I get it - if you twist my arm it's shaped piggy-ish.
Margarita, how would you rate Isabela's acting compared to a typical Televisa actress? Does my theory have merit?
As for Santiago, he's not a slimeball like his buddy Ed. He's honorable and upright in a whole swarm of interactions - adores his mother, committed to his girls, indulges homely Hortensia and Lulu with an arm over the shoulder, and is considerate of the needs of Candy's family when her father dies. Look at his sincere compassion for Candy when he tries to make amends in his office: "I'm sorry. It wasn't my intention to hurt you." And Hortensia said he didn't chase skirts when they were in DF.
I propose that he's honorable outside of his womanizing. He loved his wife so much (as an honorable man would) that when she abandoned him, it nearly destroyed him. In desparation, he disconnected his heart from all relationships with women to escape ever being destroyed again. He's a decent man, and he lives decently in all other aspects, but he's gone haywire where it comes to women. Every galan needs a tragic flaw.
Feel free to dispute me. That's half the fun!
I even find Fuego difficult to recap quickly, and that's when people are speaking slowly and repeating themselves a lot. I think I'd be lost trying to do this show!
Excellent recap! I also thought that Candy was a bit of a hypocrite the way she went on and on to Chava about not lying. And you're right, so far she has been much more physically abusive to Santiago than he to her. However he doesn't seem discouraged by it.
I really appreciate your insider knowledge about some of the details, such as Camil liking Camila. Thanks for sharing!
I remember my grandpa used to tell Sven and Ole jokes. I think our waiters are pretty good equivalents to Sven and Ole but if we see them eating lutfisk quesadillas I think I might faint.
I love Santiago's mom! I tend to be quite fond of aging hippies in general (gee I wonder why) but she really is special. You're right about her chemistry with Camil, it's fantastic.
Thanks so much for the recap Paula. I think you did an amazing job with the numerous conversations and warp-speed talking. I wonder if the actors are exhausted after taping a show? I get tired just watching one.
I really appreciate your insider knowledge about some of the details, such as Camil liking Camila. Thanks for sharing!
I remember my grandpa used to tell Sven and Ole jokes. I think our waiters are pretty good equivalents to Sven and Ole but if we see them eating lutfisk quesadillas I think I might faint.
I love Santiago's mom! I tend to be quite fond of aging hippies in general (gee I wonder why) but she really is special. You're right about her chemistry with Camil, it's fantastic.
Thanks so much for the recap Paula. I think you did an amazing job with the numerous conversations and warp-speed talking. I wonder if the actors are exhausted after taping a show? I get tired just watching one.
I forgot to mention, I thought your comment about being a navel architect was hilarious. You aren't a joke writer by any chance, are you?
Lutfisk quesadillas? Sylvia, you crack me up! Another Sven & Ole fan? Uffta! Sabes qué? The jokes translate well into Spanish, and they are well received. Let me know if you want the Spanish version. It's handy to know a few Spanish jokes - a good way to improve your Spanish, and a good icebreaker when you're talking to Spanish-speakers.
Joke writer? No. Joke teller? Ya, sure, you betcha. Around 9 I started building a repertoir (sp?) of jokes I heard on Mike Douglas. I've always been a ham - there's no thrill like getting that laugh.
I'm such a Camil fan (professionally, not personally, although he's improving) - me encanta his exuberance - so I follow his career closely and know some trivia (even where to find a foto from his blond stage!). I'm careful what I say because of board rules, but sometimes a tidbit (like the Camila preference) complements what we see on the show.
Joke writer? No. Joke teller? Ya, sure, you betcha. Around 9 I started building a repertoir (sp?) of jokes I heard on Mike Douglas. I've always been a ham - there's no thrill like getting that laugh.
I'm such a Camil fan (professionally, not personally, although he's improving) - me encanta his exuberance - so I follow his career closely and know some trivia (even where to find a foto from his blond stage!). I'm careful what I say because of board rules, but sometimes a tidbit (like the Camila preference) complements what we see on the show.
Paula, you did an outstanding job on the recap. Thank you. Great comments as well.
What bothers me most about Candi is that her son doesn't know he has a father. Many have rancorous divorces/splits but manage to put their personal pain aside for the sake of the children. They've missed years of what might have been a wonderful father/son relationship and time is something you can't recapture once it's gone. Diana in MA
What bothers me most about Candi is that her son doesn't know he has a father. Many have rancorous divorces/splits but manage to put their personal pain aside for the sake of the children. They've missed years of what might have been a wonderful father/son relationship and time is something you can't recapture once it's gone. Diana in MA
Permalink posted by : Monday, December 8, 2008 at 6:52:00 AM EST
: Monday, December 8, 2008 at 6:52:00 AM EST
Diana, good point about Candi not telling Chava about his dad. Maybe in her mind she can justify this since she "died" before she knew she was pregnant. Not a very good excuse but sometimes we humans have very convoluted ways of justifying our actions. I think it's pretty clear now that her personal growth and morality play in this show is going to be about truthfulness, to others and to herself.
I was thinking that she and Meño are similar in the respect that they both "died" to their families. Candi's is self-inflicted and Meño because he was ostracized by his family.
Diana, I would love to see some translated Sven and Ole (and Lena) jokes but the truth of the matter is, I cannot tell a joke. I can never remember quite how they are supposed to go. I'm pathetic really. However if you send me the three best and I'll add them to my homework. Thanks!
I was thinking that she and Meño are similar in the respect that they both "died" to their families. Candi's is self-inflicted and Meño because he was ostracized by his family.
Diana, I would love to see some translated Sven and Ole (and Lena) jokes but the truth of the matter is, I cannot tell a joke. I can never remember quite how they are supposed to go. I'm pathetic really. However if you send me the three best and I'll add them to my homework. Thanks!
Is this the same Paula who was so nervous for her first recap? Fantastic job, especially on this show which we are all discovering is exhausting to try and keep up with from minute to minute.
I can see some similarities to the 'feel' of this show with La Fea - many scenes seem loosely scripted in order to let Jaime Camil, or the Tomas Mora actor, or whoever, to just roll with it, leading to those 90 second long ramblings that are so hard to keep up with.
I always liked how Camil made it look so effortless, but I really became a bigger fan of his after seeing him in 7 Dias, he was excellent in that movie and it made me realize how talented he is, rather than just being a ham. If anyone hasn't seen that movie you should check it out. I won't lie, there are some parts that are tedious and my opinion is that without Camil and his character the movie just wasn't good at all, but his part makes it worth it.
Anyway back to THIS show - so far I'm trying to keep my anger/angst toward man-hating women under control, I know it's a plot device so I'm trying to just stifle it, but man oh man do gross overgeneralizations like that really irritate me. And of course since I'm a man, the "this one guy hurt me so all men suck" school of thought really pisses me off. I hope it doesn't overshadow what is otherwise a good show.
Great recap, again, Paula - I have a lot to live up to on Fridays now.
I can see some similarities to the 'feel' of this show with La Fea - many scenes seem loosely scripted in order to let Jaime Camil, or the Tomas Mora actor, or whoever, to just roll with it, leading to those 90 second long ramblings that are so hard to keep up with.
I always liked how Camil made it look so effortless, but I really became a bigger fan of his after seeing him in 7 Dias, he was excellent in that movie and it made me realize how talented he is, rather than just being a ham. If anyone hasn't seen that movie you should check it out. I won't lie, there are some parts that are tedious and my opinion is that without Camil and his character the movie just wasn't good at all, but his part makes it worth it.
Anyway back to THIS show - so far I'm trying to keep my anger/angst toward man-hating women under control, I know it's a plot device so I'm trying to just stifle it, but man oh man do gross overgeneralizations like that really irritate me. And of course since I'm a man, the "this one guy hurt me so all men suck" school of thought really pisses me off. I hope it doesn't overshadow what is otherwise a good show.
Great recap, again, Paula - I have a lot to live up to on Fridays now.
I think it's good that the characters have flaws. On Querida Enemiga, Lorena was just too perfect. But Ernesto had a womanizing past, and he changed.
Likewise, Candy has mistrust of men, and Santiago has his womanizing, so they can gradually cure each other. But then there's Patricio. I don't know if he can ever be "cured", after what he's done.
Am I wrong, or isn't everyone now located in Guadalajara? That means at some point the various secrets will have to come out.
Likewise, Candy has mistrust of men, and Santiago has his womanizing, so they can gradually cure each other. But then there's Patricio. I don't know if he can ever be "cured", after what he's done.
Am I wrong, or isn't everyone now located in Guadalajara? That means at some point the various secrets will have to come out.
Yep, looks like everybody's in Guadalajara now (go figure) and one of the preview scenes seems to show Candi ducking behind a wall when she catches sight of Patricio. More fun to come.
Hombre de Misterio, I agree, the character flaws do make things more interesting.
And yes - it can't be too long now before Candi's dead gig will be up, since her mother and Pato are both in the same city now.
And yes - it can't be too long now before Candi's dead gig will be up, since her mother and Pato are both in the same city now.
Paula – the actress playing Isabel (can’t remember her real name) is quite solid, and most likely a veteran. Like in everything else, TNs have good actors and bad actors and although age doesn’t necessarily = better, there’s a lot to be said for experience. I remember watching a movie called “Malice” back in the 90s starring Nicole Kidman and Alec Baldwin, both fairly solid actors as were Bill Pullman Bebe Newrith (whom I love!) and Peter Gallagher, though I felt Kidman was miscast (and the script was ok, but far from great). Anywhoo, there was a short scene, maybe 10-minutes at most between Pullman and Anne Bancroft, and there was just no denying she’d been doing this as long as the rest of them had been alive. She actually made some fairly mediocre dialogue shine, and made Pullman so much better for it. Just saying, there are some fabulous TN actresses out there (along with some not so great ones), but there’s a reason why some have the title “primera actriz” (first actress). It’s a badge of experience, and it shows. As for her chemistry with Camil, I have to agree that there’s obviously that and probably a lot of mutual respect. I’m sure they do have fun and their dialogue together helps.
Oh Sylvia, the Lunkfish quesadillas made me laugh. Back when hubby and I were planning our wedding, we enjoyed torturing our friend saying we would serve things like Kasha tamales, and Mole with Gefilte fish with Mole, and Menudo with Matzo Balls (most folks agreed that one didn't sound so bad).
Super detailed job on the recap Paula. Especially for the first one!! Great detail on the various conversations. Thanks for all the time I'm sure this took you! I am enjoying having challenging humor in these things for a change!
Margarita, your "menu" reminds me of something: I just saw an episode on Rosa de Guadalupe about a marriage between a Jewish boy and a Catholic girl. I said to myself while watching it, how the heck are they going to resolve this? They found a really novel twist ending to make it okay for the marriage to go forward.
I have a mixed marriage myself: I'm kasha varnishkes, and my husband is spaghetti and meatballs!
Is anyone else watching Rosa de Guadalupe (Thursdays and Fridays at 10 PM)? If enough people are interested, maybe we should have a discussion thread.
These are one-hour stories, often starring actors from the other novelas. There is always a miracle at the end resolved by prayer to the Virgen de Guadalupe.
There was a great episode recently starring Allison LLozz from Guapos, and her mother was played by Socorro.
I have a mixed marriage myself: I'm kasha varnishkes, and my husband is spaghetti and meatballs!
Is anyone else watching Rosa de Guadalupe (Thursdays and Fridays at 10 PM)? If enough people are interested, maybe we should have a discussion thread.
These are one-hour stories, often starring actors from the other novelas. There is always a miracle at the end resolved by prayer to the Virgen de Guadalupe.
There was a great episode recently starring Allison LLozz from Guapos, and her mother was played by Socorro.
Thank you, everyone, for your generous comments. Ferro, me conmueve your comment, " I have a lot to live up to" - tan amable.
And Ferro, estoy de acuerdo contigo about Candy the man-hater. She's got it bad, and I tell you, as a woman I hate it too. She's cruel. She's just plain cruel.
And Ferro, estoy de acuerdo contigo about Candy the man-hater. She's got it bad, and I tell you, as a woman I hate it too. She's cruel. She's just plain cruel.
Ferro, I totally agree with you about the man-hating thing. It's one thing to be angry at Pato for what he did to her, but to decide that means all men are evil and deserve to be assaulted and abused...well, it's pretty much the same thing as racism. Baseless overgeneralization used to "justify" hate. I hope he cures her soon.
Paula, seriously funny recap; it made my morning.
Paula, seriously funny recap; it made my morning.
Paula - great recap - thanks! You're doing fine!
Cande is a bit of a shrill, strident one-noter about men, but Santiago is deserving of her scorn, since he has a novia, and is pursuing Cande!
You know that's just wrong...but darn it - it's so easy to overlook when the guy is so guapo and has a big heart. Aren't we all full of contradictions?
I think Guadalajara is fixing to (como se dice en Tejas) become a whole lot smaller now everyone's moving there. Cande - the gig is up!
Ferro - I agree with you about 7 Dias, and not because I'm a card carrying Camilista. Honestly, the movie was more entertaining than I thought it would be, & Jaime's character was surprising - the bobble head U2 dolls! LOL!!
Cande is a bit of a shrill, strident one-noter about men, but Santiago is deserving of her scorn, since he has a novia, and is pursuing Cande!
You know that's just wrong...but darn it - it's so easy to overlook when the guy is so guapo and has a big heart. Aren't we all full of contradictions?
I think Guadalajara is fixing to (como se dice en Tejas) become a whole lot smaller now everyone's moving there. Cande - the gig is up!
Ferro - I agree with you about 7 Dias, and not because I'm a card carrying Camilista. Honestly, the movie was more entertaining than I thought it would be, & Jaime's character was surprising - the bobble head U2 dolls! LOL!!
Permalink posted by : Monday, December 8, 2008 at 5:30:00 PM EST
: Monday, December 8, 2008 at 5:30:00 PM EST
Anya, as a certified Camilista, do you have the YouTube link for his 7 Dias interview in English, the one where he describes how they got the U2 permission to use band footage, based on a chance Acapulco encounter? WAIT! It wasn't on YouTube! It was, like, RealTV, or some such. If you find it, I'll pass you some good, obscure link in exchange. Yes, that is a blatant bribe.
Paula - burned the green beans because I looking for that interview link!
I fear it's hopeless - I just don't have the internet search magic that so many possess.
Maybe Santa will help me with this.
I fear it's hopeless - I just don't have the internet search magic that so many possess.
Maybe Santa will help me with this.
Permalink posted by : Monday, December 8, 2008 at 9:03:00 PM EST
: Monday, December 8, 2008 at 9:03:00 PM EST
Nina, I did one substitute Fuego recap a few months ago. I was supposed to recap the inaugural Tontas cap, but I shredded my hand so Ferro and I swapped. Conclusion: yes, Friday's was essentially my first recap. I do like Tontas, so that sure helps.
I'll be recapping Tontas again tonight, my regular night.
Anya, alas, I think the clip is gone. I found the old reference to it on the LFMB blog. The clip used to be on http://extraenespanol.warnerbros.com/ , but now Google can't find it on the site. I never saw a copy of it on YouTube. Sorry to get your hopes up. If it's any consolation, I'll include a link to Camil speaking English on tonight's recap. And maybe one of these days, I'll treat you to the blond photo. It's a hoot!
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I'll be recapping Tontas again tonight, my regular night.
Anya, alas, I think the clip is gone. I found the old reference to it on the LFMB blog. The clip used to be on http://extraenespanol.warnerbros.com/ , but now Google can't find it on the site. I never saw a copy of it on YouTube. Sorry to get your hopes up. If it's any consolation, I'll include a link to Camil speaking English on tonight's recap. And maybe one of these days, I'll treat you to the blond photo. It's a hoot!
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