Thursday, December 18, 2008

Tontas no van - Wed. 12-17- How many Buttocks Buy Building Space? But, can Buttocks Buy Bliss? Well, at least some nice boobies never hurt anyone...

Marissa announces her engagement with Santi to Isabel. She goes on and on about what a great party she is going to organize. Ma is guardedly elated. Well, maybe not so much. She’s at least polite. She is willing to say that Mari’s hair is a little frizzy though.

Ali is doing yoga and Patsy wants to tell her something after he asks her why she didn’t come to bed last night. She preferred to sleep in her studio. Patsy wants to tell her something important.
Santi sees the sign about the offices for rent outside when Candi asks what’s up. Santi recites the greetings as it should go, and then tells her he’s noting the sign.

Ali asks Patsy what’s the problem. Que the heck, all of a sudden he’s not interested in telling her, tells her to forget it and walks out...

Ali calls Ma and Ma makes fun that her daughters don’t care about her. Ali reminds her two of them are dead and yes she cares. Ma says but you aren’t here, and she says because she’s in Guad with her husband. Ma says are you sure he’s your husband, maybe really he’s not. This freaks out Ali and so she does what every loving daughter does and orders a ticket for her Ma to come to Guad as she wants to speak with her.

Candi and Santi fight over whether or not the offices are for rent.

The kiddies decide they will be novias but not until they grow up. Chavo decides this is in 2 days.
Santi bugs Tio about renting the offices, Meno says he’ll see what he can do for a free operation. Santi says he’ll operate on Tio’s buttocks if he gets him into those offices. Now there’s a lovely thought.

Zamora asks the doc if (I couldn’t even read the damn captions fast enough, sheesh!!!) when he tells women about that stuff do they swoon and he says yes. Zamora tells Tono they are going to now be doctors. Interesting.

Rocio tells Papi about becoming novios and Santi tells her how to e-mail her Mama.

Patsy is asking a professional about how to go about recognizing a child that is about 6 yrs, when Ali comes in and ends that conversation really quick, before he gets an answer. She remarks that here Ma told her something weird, that he's not her husband. He thinks it's like what his Ma says, since they haven't married in the church, then they aren't married.

Isabel is impactada that Rocio wants a boyfriend already. They go to the bedroom and Roci announces she's just received a letter from her Mama (after like 7 years?????) Santi thinks this is great because now she can forget about Marissa. She says that's not even a joke. She had no Mama, and no she has two, and she cares for them both the same.

Santi thinks now they don't have a problem, instead 35 problems. Caray! Isabel asks if Marissa mentioned the wedding and notes he's less than enthused. She also asks Santi why he’s promised to Marissa. He likes the warm bed essentially. Ma says he could get a stuffed bear to keep him company. He is worried that because they are colleagues that if they separate for some reason there will be lawyers and fall out etc. ma reminds him she is a very smart woman and she will find a way to obligate him to stay with her. He thanks her for that comforting advice, he's not a fool. Tickling ensues by Rocio who has come back. Sooo cute.

SAnti nows stalks Candi on the street but this time he wants to talk to her as a parent. She doesn't buy this, but he struggles to tell her that her son wants to be his daughter's novio.

A mob piles out of an elevator and we see that Patsy goes to see Sole and collects the birth certificate, I guess to register Beto as his. Ali is stalking him in her bright red auto and sees this meeting and wonders what's up.

We learn that Beto is a Pumas fan because of his "father", Pat greets him and wishes luck to him for the Pumas. (Note that this team is a rival of America, the team Pat likes)

In the zocalo, Lucia meets up with Charly and he is excited she came. He hasn't found work yet because everyone wants someone 18 years old with experience, but he is close, 17 and a half. Well, 17 and half a month. Lucia willingly gives him her telephone number and tells him not to give up. They joke.

Santi notes that Candi isn't feeling well, he notes she has no temperature and she indicates that's the only good thing. She recites all that is wrong and that Pat will soon discover she's alive and when he does he'll take away her son. Santi swears he knows the best lawyers and won't let that happen.

Just then Mari and Roci call and blackmail him into coming to the park.

Lulu teases Candi that she was with "her doctor." Candi says he's not hers, but Lulu says if she doesn't want him she should send her double in in her place. Yes, Lulu says she is Candi's double, two Candies, and double her size. Sigh...

At the park, Marissa tells Santi that she and Chio are getting along famously and that she even called her Mama isn't that great? Hmmm Santi is not as warm about this, she tells him he should hug her.

She returns to the house just in time to watch Rocio and now it's Isabel's turn to exchange a number. She has to go out and leaves instructions.

Ali is worrying about where her Ma got off too because they have confirmed that the plane has arrived.

Charly is chatting with Zamora about getting Luci's digits when Candi's Ma shows up and shouts that "you killed my daughter". Zamora, who is standing in front of Tio Meno and holding up a knife thinks she's talking to him, but of course she's talking to Meno and in the next scene he tells Zamora this and to take a hike. He complains she should confront him about such things in private.

This conversation continues and Ma accuses that since he was dead of course he helped Candi "die" too. He says it was Candi's idea and he only protected her like a good uncle. She hurls that his "sickness" has ruined the whole family. He says to be gay is not a sickness, it's a lifestyle choice or "option of life". I suppose depending how you interpret this, it was an interesting characterization to me, because I think many would argue that it's not a "choice" exactly, rather a state of being. Regardless, Ma isn't buying it and insists he's sick. He says she's the sick one, he's chosen freedom and without regrets.



We go to the restaurant where Isabel learns her friend can't make it. She sits near the piano player and is thrilled that he is playing Chopin. He kids that she might be Ingrid Bergman and introduces himself as Jaime.

Candi and Tio are chatting about the office rental sign again when guess who shows up but our Doc Plastico who offers a whole years advance on the rent. This causes Candi to flashback to getting the news of her sisters death by plastic surgeon hand and she shouts no way is he renting. This conversation turns into a war over who will use the space, she says she's going to start her institute for the soul again and that she is going to compete against him for all of his patients. Blah Blah Blah they agree it's war and tear up the sign.

Ali moves in for the kill as she has now visited Sole to ask what Pat was doing there. Beto rushes over offering that he is a friend of his Ma's. Hmm, how friendly. Sole sends him off so they can talk like adults. Now there's some irony.

Revisit of the argument the high point of which is that Doc ends up telling Meno to forget about his buttocks. Candi can't believe he sold out for some buttocks. He tries to brush it off that the flesh is weak and the buttocks as well....she stomps off.


Ali reveals Pat is her husband and wants to know what's up. Sole ends up telling her that look psycho chica, I used to work with his Pa who send him here to bring me some papers. He couldn't come himself. All of a sudden Ali is happy, understands and leaves. Que the heck. I'm thinking she thinks that Sole is having an affair with Arturo. Guess we'll find out.

Jaime and "Chabeli" are getting on well, chatting about dead spouses and Chopin. Turns out he would like to see her again. Her answer to this is to give him a tiny photo, the first one she gave him must have been wrong as she had a mustache so she changes it.

Meno agree to help Candi in her war against plastic doc but only if he can be a salsa teacher in the institute. If not, he rents to the doc. Of course she agrees despite the blackmail.

Zamora says something about Don Meno being the king of the butterflies while he dances.

Santi kvetches to Mari about the rental dispute and he learns that she also works for Mari's bro as the columnist of Stupid women don't go to heaven. Mari wants him to stop talking about her or she will cut off his tongue.

Sole calls Pat to tell him of Ali's stalking. he is in a spa getting one heck of a massage.

Candi and Lulu are chatting at lunch she needs to eat greens, and Santi will not forget Candi

Zamora is trying out his great idea to be friend of doc Plas to get a girl. It doesn't work, he gets a slap.

The girls try on boots etc. Seems Santi and Mari are shopping too and arguing about something and Candi. Of course these folks are going to meet up. Sure enough they do when he and Mari decide to go into the dressing room together. Candi recognizes his voice and looks in on them then runs off. He screams that he saw her. He doesn't find her in the room next to them though and Mari is skeptical of course.

We now go to the arguing about why Ma took so long to arrive. Anyway, Ali wants to know why she says Patsy isn't her hubby. She does break out with the whole church things, and Ali says whatever, he is mine.

This was great. Isabel comes out as the hippie she wishes she was, but they have a Joan Baez song in Spanish dubbed singing over her. The house workers are thrilled at her "costume." I don't know, I'm thinking she's too old to have been a hippie, but what do I know.

Ma tells Ali she had such a real dream that she was hugging Candi, Ali is freaked out about all the dead people talk.

Eduardo's wife shows up and chats with Horty about maybe having her bubis done secretly. Some nice boobies never hurt anyone Horty tells her.She ends up taking a bank statement that comes for her hubby.


Candi again expresses to Tio that she is concerned about Pat discovering her and taking away her kid. Despite him telling her it's hard to take away a kid from his own Ma, she says he has money and lots of power. I guess that is evident from the red Ferrari that he drives around in Mexico. That takes cajones for sure.

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I'm really unclear about the office thing. Is it that Candi is setting up her "institute" in that building, but the building is renting other offices, and Santi wants to rent one to be next to Candi? But I thought they were already in the same building. What was up with all the signs they had in each other's offices a week or two ago? I'm probably just mixed up about this.
 

I found the whole office/rent thing confusing too, Hombre. I think we can blame the writing and editing, not our poor scrambled brains.

In his office, I think Patricio was actually talking with a lawyer about arrangements for the boy...but I could be wrong. Anyway, they both made a really fast recovery when Alicia barged in, I must say!
 

One more vote about being confused with the building. I thought that Candi had rented space in that rather nice building which certainly didn't have a handwritten for rent sign on the side. Who owns that building anyway? I kept getting the feeling it was Memo's. I guess I better skip the glass of wine before watching this.

The one thing I did get was that Candi wants her institute to steal Santi's clients. He is all about fixing them via surgery and she (the expert on relationships) is going to do it via talk and exercise. As if!

I'm getting whiplash with Pat and his reaction to Beto. After the test all he wanted to do was throw a bunch of money at Soledad and now he seems inclined to want some kind of contact. The writers can do what they want with Pat but I will NEVER like him the inevitable transformation or not.

This is petty but I couldn't help thinking while watching the healthy Alicia do her exercises that she simply doesn't have the body style to be a classical ballerina which is what she wanted to be.
 

Pat had told Soledad that if Beto was his, he would give him his name and give child support. So I'm sure Pat is making arrangements with the atny to officially recognize Beto as his son.

Regarding the office, I think it belonged to Meño's special friend (Roberto? maybe). And now Meño has it to use how he wants (lease? rent-free? I don't know). Candy agreed to set up her institute. That's why she was painting it with Lulu. But it never got off the ground.

Now, with all the new problems, Candy is discouraged and gives up on the Inst. She puts it up for rent.

When Candy discovers Santi wants to rent it, she remembers her sister's death, and she decides she can't let Santi expand his "navel architecture" practice. She determines to pursue the institute just to spite him. IOW her institute, fouded help women be emotionally healthy, mature, independent, and whole, is created to spite the man who Candy is afraid to love because she can't recover from 7-year-old bitterness. Okey dokey.
 

Paula I think you are right about the offices - they are owned either by Meno, or his friend left them to Meno to use. I think they had a business there before but Meno decided to focus on the restaurant, that was way back near the beginning. Regardless, Meno/Candy have control of the offices and wanted to rent them, Santi wanted them, the 'for rent' sign was then taken back, Meno/Candy will keep them. It was all really just an excuse for them to have a little comedy scene pulling the sign away from each other and talking about Meno's buttocks.

Yes the guy with Patricio, who came all the way from who knows where but was strangely agreeable when the meeting got cut off after three seconds and sending him BACK to who knows where (I guess travel time is billable, so he doesn't care), was a lawyer, Patricio wants to officially recognize the child, which I assume means put his name on the birth certificate as the father. Like Lorena's new birth certificate in QE.

Last night we finally got to see why Santiago is dragging his feet on dumping Marissa - first it was all the legalities of his practice being tied up with her, now his daughter calls her 'mama'. For the first time it made sense why he hasn't just dumped her and moved on.
 

I had said this was a long novela but after checking I was wrong. Maybe things are happening so fast because it is in fact a short novela. It lasted 6 months and two weeks. It is already over in Mexico and in Spain where I caught an episode I thought was in the middle but was only a few weeks from the end.
 

Hi Kris, don't have much time to comment right now but just wanted to say thanks a million for your funny recap. Yes they do talk FAST in this one, even the closed captions get squashed together like they used to do in Juan Querendon.

I also found the office situation very confusing but what Paula says totally makes sense. I forgot about Meño's friend.

Gotta dash, I look forward to finishing reading the recap later.
 

Did anyone notice that the piano player Isabel meets is none other than the padre from Amor Real. He is quite a good pianist !!! So nice to see his sweet face again.
 

You are so good at recognizing faces Susanlynn!
 

Ahoy, Sylvia !!! Perhaps it's from all the faces I've looked out on over the years in my classes !! Guess what--Justo [Camila's father in Pasion] is playing a doctor on Fuego.!!! He just showed up last night, and I knew that the face was familiar , but he was hard to place because in this one he has short , dark hair. And , I wish we'd see more of Jackie Gonzalos in this one. Her role as Santi's friend's wife seems pretty minor.~~~Susanlynn, waiting for the snoe, sleet , and freezing rain to arrive brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
 

SNOE???? Maybe I should proofread these posts. ~~~Susanlynn, putting on her ''snoe''shoes
 

Ha ha! It was driving me crazy not knowing where I'd seen Jackie. I think she's going to have more than a bit part in this one.
 

Ok sorry for the delay, I think it's all in there now. Thanks for waiting. I ahd to include my favorite quote from the episode in the title..... :)
 

Bundle up Susanlynn! I think it's going to miss us. My husband, who studies the Weather Channel, says it's going to pass north of us.

Interesting that you recognized the Padre by his face. For me it was his voice. When someone from the past shows up in my life, I'm not always sure about them (appearances can change) until I hear their voice...then I know for sure one way or the other.
 

Well, there's some storm that's going to dump at least a foot of snow on me tomorrow. (I made sure to get my shopping done tonight.)
 

Judyb and Julie ~~~Hub and I went out to get our groceries because we have a prediction for sleet and snow starting early tomorrow morning. Not a big accumulation but any sleet makes the roads treacherous. Talked to our daughter in Toronto tonight , and she said that they are predicting 50 cm up there. I asked how much that was in inches , and she said she didn't know [even though she was a math major and she's been living in Canada for a couple years.] So hub checked it out, and it's about 19 inches. Yikes. I suggested that it was time for her to move back to the states. Well, I just pulled the playhouse and sliding board under the patio roof , and now it's time for bed.
 

Thanks for the recap Fuego =) I’m really late on this one, so I caught it all ;)

For what it’s worth, if Santi’s 32 and mom was 28 when she had him (making her 60 now), she would have been 12 in 1960, so it’s doable that she could been a hippy towards the end of the middle of the decade. Even if they are both older, she would still have been a teenager at least at the beginning of the 60s.

On the building offices: yes, the offices in question belong to a buddy of Meño’s (he says they’re just friends, we’re not really sure) who also owns the restaurant. He retired to spend time with his “official” family. He doesn’t want to sell them because he promised them to his grandson or nephew or something like that when he graduates. Sooo, Candi and Meño can do whatever they want in the meantime, thus the little war they had over him renting the space and her telling him no way.
 

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