Thursday, January 22, 2009
Las Tontas no Van - 1-21 Wed An engagement, disengagement, teen management, home economics
Ok, I don’t know, this seems to be all over the place. I’m also cursing Rosy Ocampo for her overpacked scripts this friggin recap took me about 5 or 6 hours. Jeez.
We ended up with Santi and Mari arriving to a surprise engagement party, but then we got to Candy in the office saying she’ll be done soon and Ceci shooing everyone away. Once they are gone Candi notes how odd Ceci is acting.
This next part apparently was edited from the US version I guess for obvious reasons. I'm not so bright as I recapped it anyway not thinking it wouldn't appear. There is a scene where pipi is being visibly made too that was edited out, you'll read about that below.
We then go to Abuela scolding her young grandson for pointing out the anatomic differences between males and females and that his dog has a penus and is therefore male of course because females have vaginas and he’s not sure why it’s a cuchinada to say that. Abue isn’t hip to this frankness and nearly escorts him upstairs to his bath by his ear.
Ali and Pat are dressed up leaving for the surprise party but Pato is proclaiming how much he doesn’t want to go.
Candi and Zamora are discussing that Tio hasn’t been home yet and they are worried about him. She asks Zamora for a favor.
At Sole’s house, Meno is there telling her she’s right that her son is being raised around a gay. Like Serrat said, the truth is never sad but it has no remedy. He very somberly tells her that he has only had their best interests in mind, but if they want him out of their lives, so be it. He hands Sole the letter that he doesn’t have the courage to give to Candi directly. He worries about seeing them but is informed that at this moment everyone has left for the party, that he was invited to as well, so he won’t see them. He comments that he has his own funeral and doesn’t need to attend any other. Sole just kind of stands there impactada.
We go back to the party where Santi feigns excitement at his surprise engagement party. He immediately chugs a glass of wine then guardedly greets his guests. Mari worries he’s not enjoying this. He walks toward the door telling everyone to be happy, but under his breath, not like him. He walks out the front door and who is right there but Candi who is spying because she wants no surprises and wonders if her widow and sister are going to be there. Santi of course doesn’t know since this was all a surprise to him. Candi makes one more call to Meno before Mari sees her and drags her in. We see Pat in the background with Ali while she is talking.
Mama sees Meno packing and wonders what’s up, Candi didn’t mention he’s going on vacay. He says no, it’s for good, say goodbye to everyone for me. Of course Mama is impactado.
Santi is discussing this whole idea with Mari that this wasn’t right, and they don’t even have a ring, but of course our scheming Mari has taken care of that as she very slyly hands him a ring while holding his hands. He is therefore forced to present it happily to her in front of the crowd.
Her turn to feign pleasant surprise as she accepts the ring. Candi is the first to hug them congratulations and Santi doesn’t let go of her too easily. She says first a gift to them with all her love and the mariachis file in singing the cumbia, Tiburon a la Vista (Shark in sight) – wonder if it’s Santi or Mari….or maybe Pato? We see the Pato head coming in the still open front door and happily joining in the dancing. Candi ducks behind and grabs on to Santi again after seeing the Pato head through the crowd.
Candi and Santi begin dancing, but Mari thinks she should be dancing this first dance with the groom. Claro que si, but Santi’s Ma brushes her off - it’s a party, relax. Just then Ali and Pat greet her and distract her for a moment from her green envy. Until Ali notes the Novio dancing with someone else too, but Mari says well I guess I’ll have him my whole life so what the heck.
We turn to Candi begging Santi to help her. He ends up moving her towards the door and giving her his car and she trades him for her son. Mari rushes up and learns she’s leaving to find her uncle. An interesting trade, car for kid. Candi drives off, Mari is more than happy to see her go I’m sure.
Back at the house Gregi is telling Meno she won’t stop him if he wants to leave, because after all it isn’t right that her grandson and his son grow up with an abnormal. The have the same old argument that he’s not abnormal and she thinks God punished their whole family but meno realizes it’s futile. He says God isn’t punishment, he’s love, but she doesn’t know love. This departure is barely believable given how Meno is so strong and proud and running his restaurant and his life for so long. I guess I could only see it if he’s supposed to be that fearful of outing himself to his son. I suppose strangers are one thing, but your own children, maybe it’s not so easy to be as confident around, I don’t know. I still think he wouldn’t just abandon everything like that. Oh Candi, you’d better do something, look at where your lie has gotten us!
We see our young lovers plotting to steal away from the party for more groping. They communicate by cell phone and work their way up to Lucia’s room. While Issy and Jaime talk about their children’s respective discontent with their relationship, she looks up and notes the suit clad sneaker wearing young buck not so clandestinely ascending the stairs towards his waiting lady. Issy is not far behind. She knocks on Lu’s door and wants to know where the boyfriend is. Now here's where it’s dumb. Lu says he’s not there, but of course Abue is no tonta and discovers him behind the door. What would bother me most about this is not that they are trying to steal away, but that they lie about it, but heck, I would have done the same thing when I was that age unless there was no way to get away with it. Sigh. Abue yells at Charly to get out, appreciates he tries to cover for Lu but says Lu knows no boys allowed in her bedroom. She departs saying she already knows she’s an old-fashioned old lady and Lu doesn’t even have to say it.
Downstairs the new best friend foursome is chatting again about why Santi was dancing with that other woman and he says well she gifted the mariachis so it’s only right that I shared the dance with her. Mari thinks they should meet her someday and maybe even come by the institute.
Santi screams at this possibility, which alarms everyone, and so he covers that Donato should not be putting out the candles just now, because people will leave; and something like if the candles are out then they can’t be put on the cake. Mari tries to tell him there is no cake but he says this is a party so of course there is cake and he asks what kind they all want. They all say Mil Hojas ( Thousand Layers - not an easy cake to just pick up).
Back at the multicolored home, Candi probes her Ma for info about Meno leaving, Ma doesn’t know, she tried to change his mind but he is too stubborn - she isn’t too bothered.
Back at the party Issy is having a good conversation with her granddaughter about not rushing things and there is plenty of time. Santi hears this part and wants to know time for what, and she says to make love with her boyfriend. Santi reacts to this with a spit out of his drink, and Issy orders Donato to help him out with the mess. Ha. Santi will deal with Lu later.
At the bottom of the stairs Pat introduces Ali to Chava as his wife. Chava, having studied the finer points of Abues and Papas and Mamas with his pal Beto, rightly comments that ah, but she isn’t the Ma of Beto. Ali, who looks as though she may have enjoyed her share of champagne at this point does something waaayyy weird and asks Chava if he wouldn’t like it if she were the Ma of Beto. He listens to her Bubis, er, heart, and decides nope, she’s a bad person. Santi interrupts explaining this is just a child’s game and well his heart sounded the worst. Ali says fine, but she is zero bad. Hmmmm….
We see Los Arcos and can guess that Meno is in a hotel still in Guadalajara. This is certainly not random because of it’s inscription declaring Guadalajara the hospitable city and that an enjoyable stay is a guaranteed return. Meno’s not going to get far I surmise. He flashes back to his days of "parenting" Chava and cries profusely. Very tender moments. Poor Meno.
Back at Santi’s house it’s time for Chava’s bedtime (notice Santi does this, not Mari, the woman) and he gets to sleep in one of Santi’s shirts, of course it’s waaay too big, and this is so cute and they discuss the finer points of what makes a heart good versus bad. Honestly, I think he couldn’t really hear a heart through all that Bubi, and well, that’s what makes her bad, wink.
Candi reads the letter that basically says Meno doesn’t want to burden her with having to raise her son around a gay and that with love for her he’s left to make it easier on them. She calls him again and note, she asks yet again for something, not to leave her alone. Nice.
Chava and Santi also discuss the bedwetting and Santi tells him if it happens, to let him know and he’ll take care of it and that accidents happen. We had some comments about this bed wetting and possible causes and I like that the adults are very understanding and not stressing him out about it, but I still can’t help thinking this poor child needs some medical attention, physical or mental, to help him over this hurdle. That or they shouldn’t be handing him tequila shots before bedtime!! Adorable scene indeed. Santi tells him a story of him having to take his Roci to the bathroom and of course is first thought is to take her to the ladies room, but that upset the other ladies when he went in, and so when he took her to the men's, well it was disgusting, so while he was trying to figure out what to do, poor Roci let loose on herself and all over him and it looked like both of them wet themselves!!! OK, really, I’m echoing the sentiment we’ve heard, really what is it with all this pipi humor. I hope there’s a moral or a point or some sort of tie in at the end!
When Santi comes downstairs it turns out that Meno has come to ask him a big favor. Santi comes down, glad to know Meno is ok. He says he didn’t come to the party because he didn’t want to meet up with Candy.
Candi goes to yell at Sole for making her uncle leave. She doesn’t care about Serrat only her Uncle. She tells Sole not to say those things anymore, besides just how people don’t understand Meno, they might not understand how it is that Beto and Chava have the same Dad. Good point.
Santi talks to Meno who appears to be getting drunker by the minute. Meno asks if Santi likes his niece, he says much and that she made him a believer again, not in God but in love. They discuss how he got used to no one bugging him about where he put his socks or that he snores, but Meno says Candi hates snoring. Meno tells him not to let her go. He tells that he read Santi’s astrological cards and he’s got two paths, one with his girlfriend but the other is with his heart and that is Candi. Anyway, we know Meno likes the two of them together.
Candi calls Santi and learns Tio is there.
Pat has a dream that he sees Candi and tells her he still loves her and she’s all he cares about despite Ali and they kiss.. He wakes up with Ali there.
Santi is now drunk and professes he’s scared to be with her. I think they have switched to Jalisco’s finest instead of wine. Meno asks how he could be scared if he looks for her all the time. He says because he loves it when she yells and even when she bites her lip when she’s nervous. He says they play a cat and mouse game. Just then Candi shows up.
He tells Meno he did trick him, but he’s leaving them alone. Candi and Meno hug and make up. Oh yeah, and cry. He says he messed her make-up, but he put on none today himself because he was too depressed. On the balcony Santi and Donato contemplate why men flee marriage but do everything to get it, Santi replies that a single man is the only incomplete animal, and Donato remarks in that case marriage is the whole animal?
I think the theme here is dark suits with red ties. Now Pato is wearing one and Charly and Santi wore the same thing for the party, and well our president wore the same thing yesterday. Hmm.
Pato is in Santi’s office and they are discussing that he dreamed about his dead wife. Santi wonders her name? Candi. Pato tells all the virtues of her and Santi agrees knowingly, until he catches himself. Pato tells the whole sister kissing story. Santi says yeah, you have to forget this chic, in fact you and your wife should move far away. Really far away, the farthest, to get away from all of this. He picks up the phone to make them reservations even. He recommends Spain because they love Mexicans and there are a lot of lawyers there. Pato says he’s staying then because he’s not a lawyer.
Rocio is forced by Beto and Chava to decide which "boyfriend" she wants to keep.
Santi continues his discussion with Pato and is surprised to learn that she always said yes to Pato and never fought him or yelled at him or gave him guff. Anyway, he calls this an obsession that he needs to get over.
Charly wants to know why his parents split up. Meno asks him if he really is prepared to know the truth. All we get initially is that it was his fault because he fell in love with another person. Charly looks interested.
Santi tells Candi that Pat dreamed of her last night. She wants to know how he knew this happened and Santi tells of their chat. She thinks Pat is dreaming about a ghost because she is dead to him. Santi presses on and tells her Pat loves her, and he’s not in peace because of her death. She says good it was his fault. Santi tells her she should give him a chance to listen to him and that he really loves her. Candi is a bit impactada.
Chaya tries to demonstrate that a housewife is worth something. 11200 pesos to be exact. He says yes, but they don’t charge. She says maybe they don’t charge, but they have value and so you either pay me for what I do or you let me work and we hire someone. This plea has fallen on deaf ears again. He reminds her how much she has to do.
Meno continues to Charly that he was a bit egotistical, but he never forgot his son. He reminds him that he wouldn’t have been happy with unhappy parents but he never meant to leave him. He says he didn’t leave for another women, just fell in love with another person in a relationship that didn’t last long. But they split up and if it was up to him, he never would have left Charly alone.
Back at school Abue comes to pick up Roci so she has to decide quickly who is the novio, so she does eeny meeny miny mo and chooses Beto. Abue says this is silly, you can’t choose a boyfriend when you are hungry, so this will have to wait and she escorts Roci off. The boys fight about who she chose.
Pat takes off to go to Beto’s soccer match when Ali comes in. She asks to go with him that she won’t get in his way. He laughs and says she doesn’t know how not to and besides she hates soccer. She chides that he always brought Candi, and he says well Candi loved soccer. When really pushed of course Ali would rather be hanging around that luxurious office than going to see the Chivas on the weekend and she agrees not to go. Instead she makes an appointment with the plastic doctor for today. Nice.
Lulu is pushing this love thing with Meno and coordinates Zamora to sing to Tio Meno the song, Wake up my Sweet Love :
Despierta dulce amor de mi vida
despierta si te encuentras dormida
escucha mi voz vibrar bajo tu ventana
en esta cancion te vengo a entregar el alma
Perdona que interrumpa tu sueno
pero no pude mas
y esta noche te vine a decir
te quiero
Despierta dulce amor de mi vida
despierta si te encuentras dormida
escucha mi voz vibrar bajo tu ventana
en esta cancion te vengo a entregar el alma
Perdona que interrumpa tu sueno
pero no pude mas
y esta noche te vine a decir
te quiero
Te quiero, te quiero, te adoro
Candi notices and comments on the fact that yes Lulu appears to be flirting and or courting him. She essentially tells him he hides his sexual preference fairly well so she might not even realize it.
Still talking to the invisible maid, Ali is in front of the plastic doctor’s office on the phone. As she is parked exactly in front of the entrance, an amazing feat pulled off only by telenovela actors who have incredible parking karma, in her rear view mirror she spots someone getting out of a taxi that just pulled up. She wants to be sure what she saw, so she watches this person go in the building and up the glass elevator. Without taking off her huge designer sunglasses to get a better look, she asks if that was Candi. We’ll have to wait until next time to learn if she catches her.
Wagers anyone? What are the odds statistically….? Well, even if she does figure it out, she’d probably be in agreement to keep it from Pato for obvious reasons, not the least of which would be to keep her husband, and even more of which, as something to blackmail Candi, so maybe we are in luck with at least another person learning the gig is up. Slowly but surely the house of cards will tumble. I only hope the little kids aren’t playing Fort in it when it does. :)
We ended up with Santi and Mari arriving to a surprise engagement party, but then we got to Candy in the office saying she’ll be done soon and Ceci shooing everyone away. Once they are gone Candi notes how odd Ceci is acting.
This next part apparently was edited from the US version I guess for obvious reasons. I'm not so bright as I recapped it anyway not thinking it wouldn't appear. There is a scene where pipi is being visibly made too that was edited out, you'll read about that below.
We then go to Abuela scolding her young grandson for pointing out the anatomic differences between males and females and that his dog has a penus and is therefore male of course because females have vaginas and he’s not sure why it’s a cuchinada to say that. Abue isn’t hip to this frankness and nearly escorts him upstairs to his bath by his ear.
Ali and Pat are dressed up leaving for the surprise party but Pato is proclaiming how much he doesn’t want to go.
Candi and Zamora are discussing that Tio hasn’t been home yet and they are worried about him. She asks Zamora for a favor.
At Sole’s house, Meno is there telling her she’s right that her son is being raised around a gay. Like Serrat said, the truth is never sad but it has no remedy. He very somberly tells her that he has only had their best interests in mind, but if they want him out of their lives, so be it. He hands Sole the letter that he doesn’t have the courage to give to Candi directly. He worries about seeing them but is informed that at this moment everyone has left for the party, that he was invited to as well, so he won’t see them. He comments that he has his own funeral and doesn’t need to attend any other. Sole just kind of stands there impactada.
We go back to the party where Santi feigns excitement at his surprise engagement party. He immediately chugs a glass of wine then guardedly greets his guests. Mari worries he’s not enjoying this. He walks toward the door telling everyone to be happy, but under his breath, not like him. He walks out the front door and who is right there but Candi who is spying because she wants no surprises and wonders if her widow and sister are going to be there. Santi of course doesn’t know since this was all a surprise to him. Candi makes one more call to Meno before Mari sees her and drags her in. We see Pat in the background with Ali while she is talking.
Mama sees Meno packing and wonders what’s up, Candi didn’t mention he’s going on vacay. He says no, it’s for good, say goodbye to everyone for me. Of course Mama is impactado.
Santi is discussing this whole idea with Mari that this wasn’t right, and they don’t even have a ring, but of course our scheming Mari has taken care of that as she very slyly hands him a ring while holding his hands. He is therefore forced to present it happily to her in front of the crowd.
Her turn to feign pleasant surprise as she accepts the ring. Candi is the first to hug them congratulations and Santi doesn’t let go of her too easily. She says first a gift to them with all her love and the mariachis file in singing the cumbia, Tiburon a la Vista (Shark in sight) – wonder if it’s Santi or Mari….or maybe Pato? We see the Pato head coming in the still open front door and happily joining in the dancing. Candi ducks behind and grabs on to Santi again after seeing the Pato head through the crowd.
Candi and Santi begin dancing, but Mari thinks she should be dancing this first dance with the groom. Claro que si, but Santi’s Ma brushes her off - it’s a party, relax. Just then Ali and Pat greet her and distract her for a moment from her green envy. Until Ali notes the Novio dancing with someone else too, but Mari says well I guess I’ll have him my whole life so what the heck.
We turn to Candi begging Santi to help her. He ends up moving her towards the door and giving her his car and she trades him for her son. Mari rushes up and learns she’s leaving to find her uncle. An interesting trade, car for kid. Candi drives off, Mari is more than happy to see her go I’m sure.
Back at the house Gregi is telling Meno she won’t stop him if he wants to leave, because after all it isn’t right that her grandson and his son grow up with an abnormal. The have the same old argument that he’s not abnormal and she thinks God punished their whole family but meno realizes it’s futile. He says God isn’t punishment, he’s love, but she doesn’t know love. This departure is barely believable given how Meno is so strong and proud and running his restaurant and his life for so long. I guess I could only see it if he’s supposed to be that fearful of outing himself to his son. I suppose strangers are one thing, but your own children, maybe it’s not so easy to be as confident around, I don’t know. I still think he wouldn’t just abandon everything like that. Oh Candi, you’d better do something, look at where your lie has gotten us!
We see our young lovers plotting to steal away from the party for more groping. They communicate by cell phone and work their way up to Lucia’s room. While Issy and Jaime talk about their children’s respective discontent with their relationship, she looks up and notes the suit clad sneaker wearing young buck not so clandestinely ascending the stairs towards his waiting lady. Issy is not far behind. She knocks on Lu’s door and wants to know where the boyfriend is. Now here's where it’s dumb. Lu says he’s not there, but of course Abue is no tonta and discovers him behind the door. What would bother me most about this is not that they are trying to steal away, but that they lie about it, but heck, I would have done the same thing when I was that age unless there was no way to get away with it. Sigh. Abue yells at Charly to get out, appreciates he tries to cover for Lu but says Lu knows no boys allowed in her bedroom. She departs saying she already knows she’s an old-fashioned old lady and Lu doesn’t even have to say it.
Downstairs the new best friend foursome is chatting again about why Santi was dancing with that other woman and he says well she gifted the mariachis so it’s only right that I shared the dance with her. Mari thinks they should meet her someday and maybe even come by the institute.
Santi screams at this possibility, which alarms everyone, and so he covers that Donato should not be putting out the candles just now, because people will leave; and something like if the candles are out then they can’t be put on the cake. Mari tries to tell him there is no cake but he says this is a party so of course there is cake and he asks what kind they all want. They all say Mil Hojas ( Thousand Layers - not an easy cake to just pick up).
Back at the multicolored home, Candi probes her Ma for info about Meno leaving, Ma doesn’t know, she tried to change his mind but he is too stubborn - she isn’t too bothered.
Back at the party Issy is having a good conversation with her granddaughter about not rushing things and there is plenty of time. Santi hears this part and wants to know time for what, and she says to make love with her boyfriend. Santi reacts to this with a spit out of his drink, and Issy orders Donato to help him out with the mess. Ha. Santi will deal with Lu later.
At the bottom of the stairs Pat introduces Ali to Chava as his wife. Chava, having studied the finer points of Abues and Papas and Mamas with his pal Beto, rightly comments that ah, but she isn’t the Ma of Beto. Ali, who looks as though she may have enjoyed her share of champagne at this point does something waaayyy weird and asks Chava if he wouldn’t like it if she were the Ma of Beto. He listens to her Bubis, er, heart, and decides nope, she’s a bad person. Santi interrupts explaining this is just a child’s game and well his heart sounded the worst. Ali says fine, but she is zero bad. Hmmmm….
We see Los Arcos and can guess that Meno is in a hotel still in Guadalajara. This is certainly not random because of it’s inscription declaring Guadalajara the hospitable city and that an enjoyable stay is a guaranteed return. Meno’s not going to get far I surmise. He flashes back to his days of "parenting" Chava and cries profusely. Very tender moments. Poor Meno.
Back at Santi’s house it’s time for Chava’s bedtime (notice Santi does this, not Mari, the woman) and he gets to sleep in one of Santi’s shirts, of course it’s waaay too big, and this is so cute and they discuss the finer points of what makes a heart good versus bad. Honestly, I think he couldn’t really hear a heart through all that Bubi, and well, that’s what makes her bad, wink.
Candi reads the letter that basically says Meno doesn’t want to burden her with having to raise her son around a gay and that with love for her he’s left to make it easier on them. She calls him again and note, she asks yet again for something, not to leave her alone. Nice.
Chava and Santi also discuss the bedwetting and Santi tells him if it happens, to let him know and he’ll take care of it and that accidents happen. We had some comments about this bed wetting and possible causes and I like that the adults are very understanding and not stressing him out about it, but I still can’t help thinking this poor child needs some medical attention, physical or mental, to help him over this hurdle. That or they shouldn’t be handing him tequila shots before bedtime!! Adorable scene indeed. Santi tells him a story of him having to take his Roci to the bathroom and of course is first thought is to take her to the ladies room, but that upset the other ladies when he went in, and so when he took her to the men's, well it was disgusting, so while he was trying to figure out what to do, poor Roci let loose on herself and all over him and it looked like both of them wet themselves!!! OK, really, I’m echoing the sentiment we’ve heard, really what is it with all this pipi humor. I hope there’s a moral or a point or some sort of tie in at the end!
When Santi comes downstairs it turns out that Meno has come to ask him a big favor. Santi comes down, glad to know Meno is ok. He says he didn’t come to the party because he didn’t want to meet up with Candy.
Candi goes to yell at Sole for making her uncle leave. She doesn’t care about Serrat only her Uncle. She tells Sole not to say those things anymore, besides just how people don’t understand Meno, they might not understand how it is that Beto and Chava have the same Dad. Good point.
Santi talks to Meno who appears to be getting drunker by the minute. Meno asks if Santi likes his niece, he says much and that she made him a believer again, not in God but in love. They discuss how he got used to no one bugging him about where he put his socks or that he snores, but Meno says Candi hates snoring. Meno tells him not to let her go. He tells that he read Santi’s astrological cards and he’s got two paths, one with his girlfriend but the other is with his heart and that is Candi. Anyway, we know Meno likes the two of them together.
Candi calls Santi and learns Tio is there.
Pat has a dream that he sees Candi and tells her he still loves her and she’s all he cares about despite Ali and they kiss.. He wakes up with Ali there.
Santi is now drunk and professes he’s scared to be with her. I think they have switched to Jalisco’s finest instead of wine. Meno asks how he could be scared if he looks for her all the time. He says because he loves it when she yells and even when she bites her lip when she’s nervous. He says they play a cat and mouse game. Just then Candi shows up.
He tells Meno he did trick him, but he’s leaving them alone. Candi and Meno hug and make up. Oh yeah, and cry. He says he messed her make-up, but he put on none today himself because he was too depressed. On the balcony Santi and Donato contemplate why men flee marriage but do everything to get it, Santi replies that a single man is the only incomplete animal, and Donato remarks in that case marriage is the whole animal?
I think the theme here is dark suits with red ties. Now Pato is wearing one and Charly and Santi wore the same thing for the party, and well our president wore the same thing yesterday. Hmm.
Pato is in Santi’s office and they are discussing that he dreamed about his dead wife. Santi wonders her name? Candi. Pato tells all the virtues of her and Santi agrees knowingly, until he catches himself. Pato tells the whole sister kissing story. Santi says yeah, you have to forget this chic, in fact you and your wife should move far away. Really far away, the farthest, to get away from all of this. He picks up the phone to make them reservations even. He recommends Spain because they love Mexicans and there are a lot of lawyers there. Pato says he’s staying then because he’s not a lawyer.
Rocio is forced by Beto and Chava to decide which "boyfriend" she wants to keep.
Santi continues his discussion with Pato and is surprised to learn that she always said yes to Pato and never fought him or yelled at him or gave him guff. Anyway, he calls this an obsession that he needs to get over.
Charly wants to know why his parents split up. Meno asks him if he really is prepared to know the truth. All we get initially is that it was his fault because he fell in love with another person. Charly looks interested.
Santi tells Candi that Pat dreamed of her last night. She wants to know how he knew this happened and Santi tells of their chat. She thinks Pat is dreaming about a ghost because she is dead to him. Santi presses on and tells her Pat loves her, and he’s not in peace because of her death. She says good it was his fault. Santi tells her she should give him a chance to listen to him and that he really loves her. Candi is a bit impactada.
Chaya tries to demonstrate that a housewife is worth something. 11200 pesos to be exact. He says yes, but they don’t charge. She says maybe they don’t charge, but they have value and so you either pay me for what I do or you let me work and we hire someone. This plea has fallen on deaf ears again. He reminds her how much she has to do.
Meno continues to Charly that he was a bit egotistical, but he never forgot his son. He reminds him that he wouldn’t have been happy with unhappy parents but he never meant to leave him. He says he didn’t leave for another women, just fell in love with another person in a relationship that didn’t last long. But they split up and if it was up to him, he never would have left Charly alone.
Back at school Abue comes to pick up Roci so she has to decide quickly who is the novio, so she does eeny meeny miny mo and chooses Beto. Abue says this is silly, you can’t choose a boyfriend when you are hungry, so this will have to wait and she escorts Roci off. The boys fight about who she chose.
Pat takes off to go to Beto’s soccer match when Ali comes in. She asks to go with him that she won’t get in his way. He laughs and says she doesn’t know how not to and besides she hates soccer. She chides that he always brought Candi, and he says well Candi loved soccer. When really pushed of course Ali would rather be hanging around that luxurious office than going to see the Chivas on the weekend and she agrees not to go. Instead she makes an appointment with the plastic doctor for today. Nice.
Lulu is pushing this love thing with Meno and coordinates Zamora to sing to Tio Meno the song, Wake up my Sweet Love :
Despierta dulce amor de mi vida
despierta si te encuentras dormida
escucha mi voz vibrar bajo tu ventana
en esta cancion te vengo a entregar el alma
Perdona que interrumpa tu sueno
pero no pude mas
y esta noche te vine a decir
te quiero
Despierta dulce amor de mi vida
despierta si te encuentras dormida
escucha mi voz vibrar bajo tu ventana
en esta cancion te vengo a entregar el alma
Perdona que interrumpa tu sueno
pero no pude mas
y esta noche te vine a decir
te quiero
Te quiero, te quiero, te adoro
Candi notices and comments on the fact that yes Lulu appears to be flirting and or courting him. She essentially tells him he hides his sexual preference fairly well so she might not even realize it.
Still talking to the invisible maid, Ali is in front of the plastic doctor’s office on the phone. As she is parked exactly in front of the entrance, an amazing feat pulled off only by telenovela actors who have incredible parking karma, in her rear view mirror she spots someone getting out of a taxi that just pulled up. She wants to be sure what she saw, so she watches this person go in the building and up the glass elevator. Without taking off her huge designer sunglasses to get a better look, she asks if that was Candi. We’ll have to wait until next time to learn if she catches her.
Wagers anyone? What are the odds statistically….? Well, even if she does figure it out, she’d probably be in agreement to keep it from Pato for obvious reasons, not the least of which would be to keep her husband, and even more of which, as something to blackmail Candi, so maybe we are in luck with at least another person learning the gig is up. Slowly but surely the house of cards will tumble. I only hope the little kids aren’t playing Fort in it when it does. :)
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Thank you Kris, for going above and beyond, to get this one posted before bed. You're right, it was just packed. I enjoyed the episode, and I enjoyed being able to relive it with your recap just before bed.
So that's the title - Tiburon a la vista! I found the lyrics thanks to the title. I looked for a good YouTube clip too. Guess what? There are some really baaad YouTube clips! And the thing with Donato and the candles, I couldn't figure out what that was all about. Thank you for the clarification.
It struck me that Santiago is acting like Candy's head of household. Chava proclaimed Ali's heart bad, then he ran and hid behind Santi for protection, and Santi covered for him. Candy hid from Pat behind Santi, and Santi covered her. Then Meño, who'd just been badly treated by Soledad and Suegrita, goes to Santi to ask him to take care of Candy when he's gone, and Santi stalls him until Candy arrives, thus protecting Meño.
So that's the title - Tiburon a la vista! I found the lyrics thanks to the title. I looked for a good YouTube clip too. Guess what? There are some really baaad YouTube clips! And the thing with Donato and the candles, I couldn't figure out what that was all about. Thank you for the clarification.
It struck me that Santiago is acting like Candy's head of household. Chava proclaimed Ali's heart bad, then he ran and hid behind Santi for protection, and Santi covered for him. Candy hid from Pat behind Santi, and Santi covered her. Then Meño, who'd just been badly treated by Soledad and Suegrita, goes to Santi to ask him to take care of Candy when he's gone, and Santi stalls him until Candy arrives, thus protecting Meño.
Kris, thanks for your dedication in recapping this jam packed episode. You did a wonderful job and I loved your title.
I haven't been really touched by too much in Tontas but the scene between Meño and Candy at Santi's made me cry. It seemed so genuine and heartfelt. However, I fear Meño is in for more heartbreak as Charley seems to lack the maturity to accept Meño's sexuality.
Lulu is making a common mistake confusing care and friendship with love. I hope someone (Candy who's obviously picked up on it) tells her (gently) that Meño is gay before she gets too much more emotionally involved.
Diana in MA
I haven't been really touched by too much in Tontas but the scene between Meño and Candy at Santi's made me cry. It seemed so genuine and heartfelt. However, I fear Meño is in for more heartbreak as Charley seems to lack the maturity to accept Meño's sexuality.
Lulu is making a common mistake confusing care and friendship with love. I hope someone (Candy who's obviously picked up on it) tells her (gently) that Meño is gay before she gets too much more emotionally involved.
Diana in MA
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: Thursday, January 22, 2009 at 7:54:00 AM EST
: Thursday, January 22, 2009 at 7:54:00 AM EST
Thanks Kris! You can be a less meticulous recapper, it's allowed. Nobody should have to spend that much time! As I've said, I can barely follow the dialogue, everybody talks so fast - but a lot of it doesn't really matter... I loved the Meno flashbacks. I am SO TIRED of Candy asking absolutely everybody for favors. Think Rocio's eeny-meeny-maynee-mo choosing a boyfriend is foreshadowing Candy's own difficulties choosing between Patricio and Santiago? They've nicened Pat up (he is so sweet with the boys) so he won't seem like an intolerable alternative.
Hi Kris...loved your opening rant. That's pretty much how I feel all the time on this one.
And telenovela "incredible parking karma"...oh yes, Good call. In real life, she'd never get an appointment with a busy plastic surgeon on the same day she called, much less a parking space right in front.
Oh well...we need foil-lined beanies for this one just like in FELS.
Thanks for putting in so much time, K, and telling it like it is!
And telenovela "incredible parking karma"...oh yes, Good call. In real life, she'd never get an appointment with a busy plastic surgeon on the same day she called, much less a parking space right in front.
Oh well...we need foil-lined beanies for this one just like in FELS.
Thanks for putting in so much time, K, and telling it like it is!
Great recap, Kris. I don't know how you all do it on this show--Cuidado is so much easier! Here it seems like most of the action is sly interchanges and subtle physical humor and it seems like it would be really hard to put into words what exactly is going on.
Santiago really has entrenched himself well in Candy's life. He takes care of everything for her. I find it pretty endearing, but I wish she would grow up and demand less and give more in return. All to come, I suppose.
I would guess that the endless pipi discussions are just to show us further that these people have decent parenting skills (even if they're otherwise severely screwed up). There are probably other parenting challenges that could be substituted, but many of them are even grosser or more annoying to watch.
Santiago really has entrenched himself well in Candy's life. He takes care of everything for her. I find it pretty endearing, but I wish she would grow up and demand less and give more in return. All to come, I suppose.
I would guess that the endless pipi discussions are just to show us further that these people have decent parenting skills (even if they're otherwise severely screwed up). There are probably other parenting challenges that could be substituted, but many of them are even grosser or more annoying to watch.
Thanks, Kris for an excellent, detailed recap. I totally agree with how long this show takes to recap, as it takes me just as long.
I liked your description of Charly (the suit clad sneaker wearing young buck not so clandestinely ascending the stairs towards his waiting lady). LOL!
I had no idea what was going on with Santi in the bathroom with little Rocio, since they censored the pipi, and I missed the dialog. Now I know (not sure if I wanted to know, tho):)
The way I heard the joke between Donato and Santi was "The only incomplete animal in the world is man. So you know what he becomes if he gets married? A complete animal!"
I really don't like Ed. If Chayo were my wife, I'd be waiting on her hand and foot, she's cute, sweet, nice, I mean, come on, Ed, what's your problem?
And Paula, ITA with the fact that Santi is acting like head of household. Hopefully he'll get that role for real one day. And I loved your chart of parallels yesterday. Another parallel is that Rocio's in the middle of Chava and Beto, just as Candy's in the middle of Santi and Pat, and Santi's in the middle of Marissa and Candy.
I liked your description of Charly (the suit clad sneaker wearing young buck not so clandestinely ascending the stairs towards his waiting lady). LOL!
I had no idea what was going on with Santi in the bathroom with little Rocio, since they censored the pipi, and I missed the dialog. Now I know (not sure if I wanted to know, tho):)
The way I heard the joke between Donato and Santi was "The only incomplete animal in the world is man. So you know what he becomes if he gets married? A complete animal!"
I really don't like Ed. If Chayo were my wife, I'd be waiting on her hand and foot, she's cute, sweet, nice, I mean, come on, Ed, what's your problem?
And Paula, ITA with the fact that Santi is acting like head of household. Hopefully he'll get that role for real one day. And I loved your chart of parallels yesterday. Another parallel is that Rocio's in the middle of Chava and Beto, just as Candy's in the middle of Santi and Pat, and Santi's in the middle of Marissa and Candy.
I found it interesting that Santi is giving Candy the good advice to get it over with and confront Pat. He obviously has her interests at heart not his own which makes him far more endearing then the self absorbed its all about me Pat. Interesting too that he found out what a wimpy little yes girl Candy was to Pat, while she stands on her own feet around him.
I wonder if Chava has done his little listen to the heart with Pat or does he restrict it to women only. We know he has pronounced both Mari and Ali as mala.
Isabel is a treat busy keeping Lucia from making a bad mistake and then telling Lucia she can't pick a novio when she is hungry. Most people probably would have told her she was too young for such nonsense. This way her little dignity is maintained and neither of the little guys get their feeling hurt. These kids are the best part of the show at this point.
Rosy does pack her shows with action but mercifully avoids the mounds of violence that are so prevalent in all the rest of them. Candy might be irritating beyond belief, something I often found with our dear Lety as well, but we are spared rapes, murders, wife beating, children left in churches, fields, orphanages, with cruel strangers or are switched at birth.
The near misses are getting annoying but they are a time honored soap ploy designed to wet our appetites for the big confrontation scene. The unfortunate thing is that they all over do them so that when the face to face confrontation comes it is anticlimactic. Novelas aren't the only ones that do it. If you are a fan of GH they are doing the exact same thing with Emily's double. It is tedious not tempting
I could do without all the pipi conversations myself but apparently toilet humor works in Mexico like it does here with certain segments of the audience. I still shudder thinking about all those chamber pot scene in the otherwise beautiful Alborada.
Kris, as someone said it is ok to skip over or compress scenes in a recap especially one as packed as this. I know that recapping take times but 5 or 6 hours is above and beyond the call of duty.
I wonder if Chava has done his little listen to the heart with Pat or does he restrict it to women only. We know he has pronounced both Mari and Ali as mala.
Isabel is a treat busy keeping Lucia from making a bad mistake and then telling Lucia she can't pick a novio when she is hungry. Most people probably would have told her she was too young for such nonsense. This way her little dignity is maintained and neither of the little guys get their feeling hurt. These kids are the best part of the show at this point.
Rosy does pack her shows with action but mercifully avoids the mounds of violence that are so prevalent in all the rest of them. Candy might be irritating beyond belief, something I often found with our dear Lety as well, but we are spared rapes, murders, wife beating, children left in churches, fields, orphanages, with cruel strangers or are switched at birth.
The near misses are getting annoying but they are a time honored soap ploy designed to wet our appetites for the big confrontation scene. The unfortunate thing is that they all over do them so that when the face to face confrontation comes it is anticlimactic. Novelas aren't the only ones that do it. If you are a fan of GH they are doing the exact same thing with Emily's double. It is tedious not tempting
I could do without all the pipi conversations myself but apparently toilet humor works in Mexico like it does here with certain segments of the audience. I still shudder thinking about all those chamber pot scene in the otherwise beautiful Alborada.
Kris, as someone said it is ok to skip over or compress scenes in a recap especially one as packed as this. I know that recapping take times but 5 or 6 hours is above and beyond the call of duty.
Permalink posted by : Thursday, January 22, 2009 at 12:51:00 PM EST
: Thursday, January 22, 2009 at 12:51:00 PM EST
Kris you naughty girl, I'm trying to read your recap on the sly at work and I keep cracking up! I finally had to close my door and put on my headset to feign a confidential conversation, heh.
I completely agree about this TN being all over the place and jampacked with conversation. Fun to watch but hell to recap.
I have been wanting Chava to listen to Alicia's heart and aha we knew it! She is mala! Loved your cracks about her bubis, too too funny.
I think you're spot-on in your conclusion. People will probably discover Candy one by one and you list some great reasons why Ali won't want to reveal Candy to Pato.
Wonderful recap Kris, simply hilarious comments on your part (as usual). Thanks so much for your time!!
I completely agree about this TN being all over the place and jampacked with conversation. Fun to watch but hell to recap.
I have been wanting Chava to listen to Alicia's heart and aha we knew it! She is mala! Loved your cracks about her bubis, too too funny.
I think you're spot-on in your conclusion. People will probably discover Candy one by one and you list some great reasons why Ali won't want to reveal Candy to Pato.
Wonderful recap Kris, simply hilarious comments on your part (as usual). Thanks so much for your time!!
I have updated Relationships Chart; see link. Thank you for the input.
Remember how most people react when Chava puts his head on their chest? They think he wants a hug. Even Marissa did, I think. Ali just stood there.
Notice Santi takes the heart thing seriously. He wants to know how Chava's reality works, he doesn't blow him off as some childish idea, and he understands what Chava means. I loved the reference to carcacha - a jalopy.
I know we're tired of the pipi theme, but it was so precious between the two of them. Imagine you're Chava. Not only is he sleeping away from home, away from family, but his mom disappeared and didn't even say goodbye. For a bedwetter, sleeping away is a terror. Grandma didn't help any, the last time he slept at Santi's. So Santi plays the loving papa when he puts him to bed. What's more, he reassures Chava about all his unexpressed fears. "You're safe, Chava. Just say the word, and I'll take care of everything." Yeah, Chava was right. Santiago does have a good heart.
Remember how most people react when Chava puts his head on their chest? They think he wants a hug. Even Marissa did, I think. Ali just stood there.
Notice Santi takes the heart thing seriously. He wants to know how Chava's reality works, he doesn't blow him off as some childish idea, and he understands what Chava means. I loved the reference to carcacha - a jalopy.
I know we're tired of the pipi theme, but it was so precious between the two of them. Imagine you're Chava. Not only is he sleeping away from home, away from family, but his mom disappeared and didn't even say goodbye. For a bedwetter, sleeping away is a terror. Grandma didn't help any, the last time he slept at Santi's. So Santi plays the loving papa when he puts him to bed. What's more, he reassures Chava about all his unexpressed fears. "You're safe, Chava. Just say the word, and I'll take care of everything." Yeah, Chava was right. Santiago does have a good heart.
OK... I cleaned up a few things. I was never my whole life, through all of my schooling, a person who would confuse like sounding words in writing, what's the word for them, cognates? Anyway, like hears and here's. Something weird is happening to my brain as I age I think. I know I'm a bad typist, but that is something different. Very weird when I discover that stuff after the fact.
Sorry if I sounded like I was ranting a bit, part of that 5-6 hours had to do with finally being ready to post and then my blogger not working properly and the net moving soooo slow and having to e-mail my recap to myself, start up another computer, and upload everything from there, and then once posted having to adjust all of the darn spacing.
That is mostly where that sentiment came from, and that took an extra hour almost. One of my computer LCD backlights keeps going off in the middle of things, and the other one is just darned slow and old and just does weird things when trying to log in to blogger.
I had a doc appt this am and just really wanted to get to bed early. Well that kind of didn't matter because my poor kitty kept me up all night too wanting food, but the food I gave him wasn't good enough so I had to keep switching around food so I could see if I could get him to eat something. Every 20 minutes!!!! UGH!!!! He still didn't eat muchas I guess I should have been offering him caviar. Then I was late to my doc appt because I was so damn tired and didn't want to get up. Sigh.
Whew ok, now that rant is done. I just am not one to function well without great sleep. Thanks for your support and slack sliding on details.
It's weird though, because when you get into it, the best parts are, as Decie mentioned, the exchanges and physical humor that is hard to put into words and that is what takes up the time to convey and I just feel like it needs to be included, so I don't know. I know I slacked on some things though.
Thanks hombre, I agree your understanding of the joke explains it much better. Sometimes I just can't think of how things would best be described in English, I get mental roadblock.
Something occurred to me, too, reading these comments. Perhaps it's Santi who will be the golden magic that gets Chava over his bedwetting hump, yet another reason he must be the one for Candi.
:)
Sorry if I sounded like I was ranting a bit, part of that 5-6 hours had to do with finally being ready to post and then my blogger not working properly and the net moving soooo slow and having to e-mail my recap to myself, start up another computer, and upload everything from there, and then once posted having to adjust all of the darn spacing.
That is mostly where that sentiment came from, and that took an extra hour almost. One of my computer LCD backlights keeps going off in the middle of things, and the other one is just darned slow and old and just does weird things when trying to log in to blogger.
I had a doc appt this am and just really wanted to get to bed early. Well that kind of didn't matter because my poor kitty kept me up all night too wanting food, but the food I gave him wasn't good enough so I had to keep switching around food so I could see if I could get him to eat something. Every 20 minutes!!!! UGH!!!! He still didn't eat muchas I guess I should have been offering him caviar. Then I was late to my doc appt because I was so damn tired and didn't want to get up. Sigh.
Whew ok, now that rant is done. I just am not one to function well without great sleep. Thanks for your support and slack sliding on details.
It's weird though, because when you get into it, the best parts are, as Decie mentioned, the exchanges and physical humor that is hard to put into words and that is what takes up the time to convey and I just feel like it needs to be included, so I don't know. I know I slacked on some things though.
Thanks hombre, I agree your understanding of the joke explains it much better. Sometimes I just can't think of how things would best be described in English, I get mental roadblock.
Something occurred to me, too, reading these comments. Perhaps it's Santi who will be the golden magic that gets Chava over his bedwetting hump, yet another reason he must be the one for Candi.
:)
PS thanks little birdie who always posts my caps to delicious...much obliged to fend off those who don't like to scroll a little....
I assume Paulina's out of the story forever, which is too bad, because some obsessive part of my brain is really distraught that Paula's chart is just two bubbles away (on Paulina's side) from being perfectly symmetrical.
Oh great, I just noticed that with all this talk of peeing pants I've ended up with some great Sponsored Links on the sidebar...Pee Your Pants funny videos, incontinence, etc.
Oh, and I totally agree with Deciegirl about the tediousness of near-misses. Yeah, we get it, they live in the same area, o the irony, tra la la. (And yes I'm suffering through the fake-Emily thing on GH too.)
Oh Kris...just hearing about those computer problems makes my blood run cold. I have brushed something on the left side of the computer while typing recaps that shuts the whole computer down! and sometimes it wipes out a lot of the recap but not all of it, thank God. I presume if it did I would just sit there and bawl and give up.
Bless you for staying the course, nursing a sick kitty and managing to get up the next day, albeit late.
Bless you for staying the course, nursing a sick kitty and managing to get up the next day, albeit late.
Yes thank you Kris for going above and beyond. I have taken to recapping on Google Documents which updates constantly. I suppose there is still the possibility of losing a recap or part of one if the internet connection gets buggered up, but my recapping has gone more smoothly since I started doing it that way. Then I just cut and paste into blogger. It somehow seems to be formatted and paragraphed just perfectly.
Just a note, I really haven't gone above and beyond what anyone else around here does. I think I just kvetch about it more. :)
Syl, I might have to hit you up for a tutor on google docs as that sounds cool and I have not yet used it...
Oh the pipi sidebar things could be funny indeed....
Syl, I might have to hit you up for a tutor on google docs as that sounds cool and I have not yet used it...
Oh the pipi sidebar things could be funny indeed....
Well I think we all know that we put hours into our 'masterpieces'. I have vowed to spend less time on them and to try to keep them more succinct but Ocampo's style certainly makes that challenging.
You're on for the docs tutorial.
You're on for the docs tutorial.
Words that sound the same but are spelled differently [blue/blew] are homonyms. Don't worry about it. If I don't proofread my posts, I make all sorts of silly mistakes . You always do an outstanding recap.
Permalink posted by : Thursday, January 22, 2009 at 6:06:00 PM EST
: Thursday, January 22, 2009 at 6:06:00 PM EST
Kris, thanks for a fabulous and thorough recap. Hope all is ok with kitty. Mine recently cut down on his wet food for no apparent reason, but is at least still eating the dry. I can see how worrying about a feline child would add even more stress to rough computer issues. Hope you can get some sleep tonight.
One quick thing, I think the whole “truth is sad, but has no remedy” actually referred to Serrano (aka, “La Tigresa” – the tigress), not Serrat. Here is a link about her http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irma_Serrano and another http://www.biosstars-mx.com/i/irma_serrano.html that’s in Spanish, but has the benefit of a photo (there is a slight resemblance when you think about it). Along with her talent as an actress, singer, etc., she’s become famous for scandalous behavior, such as dating younger men and undergoing in vitro fertilization at the age of 70.
I think Chava may have listened to Pato’s heart, but I’m not sure. I know he has listened to Santi’s and to Charlie’s.
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One quick thing, I think the whole “truth is sad, but has no remedy” actually referred to Serrano (aka, “La Tigresa” – the tigress), not Serrat. Here is a link about her http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irma_Serrano and another http://www.biosstars-mx.com/i/irma_serrano.html that’s in Spanish, but has the benefit of a photo (there is a slight resemblance when you think about it). Along with her talent as an actress, singer, etc., she’s become famous for scandalous behavior, such as dating younger men and undergoing in vitro fertilization at the age of 70.
I think Chava may have listened to Pato’s heart, but I’m not sure. I know he has listened to Santi’s and to Charlie’s.
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