Tuesday, February 24, 2009
Manana es Para Siempre, Feb. 24th – Capitulo #2 “Brought to You by Our Sponsors, Singulair Inhalers, and Aqua Net Hairspray”
From last night: Liliana is eavesdropping on Babs who is on the phone we presume with Cigarman. Outside, the mass for Fernanda’s first communion is finishing up. Crabby Mom is overwhelmed with pride for her “good” daughter.
Liliana hears Babs tell Cigarman that she hasn’t been able to call him until now, but she’s taking advantage of the fact that the family is at the mass. She tells him nobody suspects anything. Liliana thinks to herself she has to find out who Babs is speaking with and runs off to another room to pick up the phone and listen, but stops when she hears someone asking her what she’s doing. Babs tells Cigarman that the plan to seduce Gonzalo Elizalde isn’t working, he’s just a boring old man who only has eyes for his wife the hypochondriac. Cigarman asks what’s up with Soledad Cruz, the cook. She tells him she’s started to take authority away from her, and Cigarman reminds her that Soledad’s “Aquilles Heel” is her son, Eduardo. He tells her to “finish him”.
Turns out Soledad is the one who saw Liliana trying to listen in on Bab’s call and she reproaches Liliana, but Lili tries to explain. Soledad and Liliana talk about how awful it is that Soledad and her son weren’t invited to the first communion because of Babs. Lili asks Soledad if she’s the only one who realizes that Babs is a snake, but Soledad says no, she sees it too.
Back at the elegant party, Fernanda sees Eduardo’s yellow flag and runs off to the secret hideaway to be with him. Gonzalo looks for Babs, but Crabby Mom wants him to bring Liliana to the party.
Eduardo waits in the secret hideaway that’s glowing with sunshine.
Crabby Mom is yelling at Lili for not showing up at the party, but Soledad tells a lie about Lili being sick and covers for her, Lili is grateful.
Eduardo carves his and Fernanda’s initials in the wood at the secret hideaway. Fernanda arrives and sees the trail of flowers he’s left for her. These two kids are so damn cute and in love. Lots of warm fuzzies in this scene.
At the party Gonzalo asks Babs to find Fernanda. Babs sees Eduardo’s yellow flag in the tree and tells little Erica she has to tell here where Fernanda is or Fernanda’s parents will be mad. Erica spills her guts.
In the hideaway Fernanda and Eduardo are talking. He says when he saw her in front of the altar he thanked G-d for bringing her into his life, and she says when she grows up she wants to marry someone just like him. He gives her the silver necklace with their initials, and she loves it. He goes to put it on her but switches out the leather string for her chain. She puts her medallion of La Virgen de la Luz on the leather string and gives it to him to wear. She asks him to promise to have it with him forever. She tells him to close his eyes and she gives him a sweet kiss on the lips. BadAss Babs comes in and scares the hell out of the kids (and the birds) and fakes shock at seeing them kissing.
At the party the celebration continues. Babs drags Fernanda back to the party to tell her mother where she’s been. Fernanda clutches the charm Eduardo gave her and confesses to her mother, who flips out and tells her she’s not allowed to be friends with the servants, especially that “indio” Eduardo. His mother, Soledad, is in the background listening to this. [Calling someone an “indio” in Mexico is as bas as calling someone the “n” word here in the US. It really has nothing to do with whether the person is of indigenous blood, mestizo, etc., or not. It’s more about how dark the person’s skin is, in a case like this. Other times it’s used to say how dumb someone is.] Babs tells Montserrat that this shouldn’t be discussed in front of the guests. Fernanda runs off to her room. Babs tells Montse she found the kids kissing, and says she thinks Eduardo tricked Fernanda into going there with him. Mom’s ready to keel over from her asthma. Babs walks off. Gonzalo walks up and Montse fills him in on what’s been going on with his daughter and Soledad’s son.
In Fernanda’s room Babs tries to explain why she told on her. Babs fakes tears and concern, and says Fernanda’s mother is thinking about sending her to Fernanda to live in a convent, and that her father is tired of all the fighting in the house. Fernanda hides the necklace Eddie gave her under her dress. Babs tricks Fernanda into telling her mother it was all Eduardo’s fault, but Fernanda doesn’t want to lie and get Eduardo punished.
Soledad is getting her son’s side of the story. He tells her the truth about what happened.
Montse is screaming at Fernanda. She tells Babs to Gonzalo she wants to talk to him. Babs walks out looking pleased.
Soledad tries to tell Eduardo there can never be anything between him and Fernanda, and forbids him to go near her or the “big house” again. He cries.
In Gonzalo’s office, and in front of Montse, Babs tells Gonzalo that Eduardo tried to take advantage of Fernanda, and who knows what would have happened if she hadn’t gotten there in time. Montse says Eduardo has to leave the hacienda, or what happens when the kids grow up will be on his conscience. Montse wants him to throw Soledad and her son out of the house. He says he’ll fix the problem but Soledad stays. Montse, wheezing desperately, leaves Babs and Gonzo in the office alone. Babs plants the idea in Gonzo’s head that it would be a good gesture to send Eduardo far away to study, and at the same time it would keep Fernanda safe.
Liliana finds Fernanda crying on her bed and learns what’s happened. The mother comes in and yells at Liliana again. She smacks Lili across the face and sends her to her room. Fernanda cries on her bed.
Half-moon in the sky. Now we have a split screen with the two kids looking out the window pining over each other.
The next day Fernanda sees Jacinto, Eddie’s friend. Jacinto tells Fernanda that Eduardo is never allowed to come near her again.
Soledad and Gonzo are going to have some coffee and talk about what’s happened between the kids.
Stupid Anibal kisses Erica to make his little brother Santiago jealous. Anibal, who has the hairline of the Wolfman, is a complete SOB who looks way too old to be kissing a little girl like Erica. (BTW, who names their kid Anibal? Was there ever a Anibal or Hannibal in history that was a good guy?) Poor Erica doesn’t realize she’s been used twice in the last two days for other people’s dirty work.
Gonzo has explained to Soledad about her son going off to school to study in Mexico City, he tells her he’ll pay for everything, and it’s a wonderful school and at least her sib will have a chance for a good education and won’t be stuck there in the pueblo to become nothing more than a worker. Eddie listens outside the door. He tells her to think about his proposal, and not to deny her son a better future.
Babs is visiting Evil Cigarman and updates him about Eddie going off to school. He tells her he wants the Elizalde’s destroyed, and that their agony be long and painful.
Soledad is getting ready to take her son to Mexico City. They’re both crying, and she tells him one day he’ll understand why it’s for his own good he’s being sent away to school.
On our new Staircase of Doom, Fernanda cries that she wants to say goodbye to Eddie but her mother says no and sends her back to her room. Mom takes a big hit off her inhaler. After Montse walks away, Liliana comes out of her room with a sneaky look on her face.
Back at the office, Gonzo is sadly telling Babs that at this very moment Soledad is saying goodbye to her son. Gonzo wonders out loud if he’s doing the right thing, and Babs says the separation will be hard for the kids, but it’s the best thing for Fernanda.
The kids have come to say goodbye to Eduardo. Liliana comes to sneak Fernanda off to say goodbye also. Eduardo is sad that Fernanda can’t come to say goodbye. All the kids are crying, as the bus pulls up to take Eddie away. The bus pulls away just as Fernanda arrives screaming his name, she runs after the bus and he runs to the back window to see her. They scream each other’s names, and she’s left standing on the dirt road crying. Liliana tries to console her.
Soledad says goodbye to her son in front of his new school, and tells him she hopes that this sacrifice will be worth it. She’s sure that his father, who is in heaven, is very happy that their son will have a good future.
Montse is thanking Babs for taking care of the problem of Fernanda and Eduardo, but that the only thing that still bothers her is having to see Soledad’s face every day. Babs offers to take care of that problem as well, she can hire another cook. But, Montse says, her husband doesn’t want Soledad to leave the hacienda. Babs says Soledad can still live in her house out in the middle of the fields, but far away from Montse and Gonzo’s kids, and she’ll no longer be a bad influence over them. Montse gives Babs the green light to go ahead with the plan, and says when Soledad gets back this afternoon to give her the bad news that she’s no longer the cook.
Previews: Cigarman gives Babs instructions to get rid of Montse, so Babs can marry Gonzo. He says this is the order of Artemio Bravo. Liliana is listening in on another phone. Gonzo confronts Babs with Liliana’s accusation.
Liliana hears Babs tell Cigarman that she hasn’t been able to call him until now, but she’s taking advantage of the fact that the family is at the mass. She tells him nobody suspects anything. Liliana thinks to herself she has to find out who Babs is speaking with and runs off to another room to pick up the phone and listen, but stops when she hears someone asking her what she’s doing. Babs tells Cigarman that the plan to seduce Gonzalo Elizalde isn’t working, he’s just a boring old man who only has eyes for his wife the hypochondriac. Cigarman asks what’s up with Soledad Cruz, the cook. She tells him she’s started to take authority away from her, and Cigarman reminds her that Soledad’s “Aquilles Heel” is her son, Eduardo. He tells her to “finish him”.
Turns out Soledad is the one who saw Liliana trying to listen in on Bab’s call and she reproaches Liliana, but Lili tries to explain. Soledad and Liliana talk about how awful it is that Soledad and her son weren’t invited to the first communion because of Babs. Lili asks Soledad if she’s the only one who realizes that Babs is a snake, but Soledad says no, she sees it too.
Back at the elegant party, Fernanda sees Eduardo’s yellow flag and runs off to the secret hideaway to be with him. Gonzalo looks for Babs, but Crabby Mom wants him to bring Liliana to the party.
Eduardo waits in the secret hideaway that’s glowing with sunshine.
Crabby Mom is yelling at Lili for not showing up at the party, but Soledad tells a lie about Lili being sick and covers for her, Lili is grateful.
Eduardo carves his and Fernanda’s initials in the wood at the secret hideaway. Fernanda arrives and sees the trail of flowers he’s left for her. These two kids are so damn cute and in love. Lots of warm fuzzies in this scene.
At the party Gonzalo asks Babs to find Fernanda. Babs sees Eduardo’s yellow flag in the tree and tells little Erica she has to tell here where Fernanda is or Fernanda’s parents will be mad. Erica spills her guts.
In the hideaway Fernanda and Eduardo are talking. He says when he saw her in front of the altar he thanked G-d for bringing her into his life, and she says when she grows up she wants to marry someone just like him. He gives her the silver necklace with their initials, and she loves it. He goes to put it on her but switches out the leather string for her chain. She puts her medallion of La Virgen de la Luz on the leather string and gives it to him to wear. She asks him to promise to have it with him forever. She tells him to close his eyes and she gives him a sweet kiss on the lips. BadAss Babs comes in and scares the hell out of the kids (and the birds) and fakes shock at seeing them kissing.
At the party the celebration continues. Babs drags Fernanda back to the party to tell her mother where she’s been. Fernanda clutches the charm Eduardo gave her and confesses to her mother, who flips out and tells her she’s not allowed to be friends with the servants, especially that “indio” Eduardo. His mother, Soledad, is in the background listening to this. [Calling someone an “indio” in Mexico is as bas as calling someone the “n” word here in the US. It really has nothing to do with whether the person is of indigenous blood, mestizo, etc., or not. It’s more about how dark the person’s skin is, in a case like this. Other times it’s used to say how dumb someone is.] Babs tells Montserrat that this shouldn’t be discussed in front of the guests. Fernanda runs off to her room. Babs tells Montse she found the kids kissing, and says she thinks Eduardo tricked Fernanda into going there with him. Mom’s ready to keel over from her asthma. Babs walks off. Gonzalo walks up and Montse fills him in on what’s been going on with his daughter and Soledad’s son.
In Fernanda’s room Babs tries to explain why she told on her. Babs fakes tears and concern, and says Fernanda’s mother is thinking about sending her to Fernanda to live in a convent, and that her father is tired of all the fighting in the house. Fernanda hides the necklace Eddie gave her under her dress. Babs tricks Fernanda into telling her mother it was all Eduardo’s fault, but Fernanda doesn’t want to lie and get Eduardo punished.
Soledad is getting her son’s side of the story. He tells her the truth about what happened.
Montse is screaming at Fernanda. She tells Babs to Gonzalo she wants to talk to him. Babs walks out looking pleased.
Soledad tries to tell Eduardo there can never be anything between him and Fernanda, and forbids him to go near her or the “big house” again. He cries.
In Gonzalo’s office, and in front of Montse, Babs tells Gonzalo that Eduardo tried to take advantage of Fernanda, and who knows what would have happened if she hadn’t gotten there in time. Montse says Eduardo has to leave the hacienda, or what happens when the kids grow up will be on his conscience. Montse wants him to throw Soledad and her son out of the house. He says he’ll fix the problem but Soledad stays. Montse, wheezing desperately, leaves Babs and Gonzo in the office alone. Babs plants the idea in Gonzo’s head that it would be a good gesture to send Eduardo far away to study, and at the same time it would keep Fernanda safe.
Liliana finds Fernanda crying on her bed and learns what’s happened. The mother comes in and yells at Liliana again. She smacks Lili across the face and sends her to her room. Fernanda cries on her bed.
Half-moon in the sky. Now we have a split screen with the two kids looking out the window pining over each other.
The next day Fernanda sees Jacinto, Eddie’s friend. Jacinto tells Fernanda that Eduardo is never allowed to come near her again.
Soledad and Gonzo are going to have some coffee and talk about what’s happened between the kids.
Stupid Anibal kisses Erica to make his little brother Santiago jealous. Anibal, who has the hairline of the Wolfman, is a complete SOB who looks way too old to be kissing a little girl like Erica. (BTW, who names their kid Anibal? Was there ever a Anibal or Hannibal in history that was a good guy?) Poor Erica doesn’t realize she’s been used twice in the last two days for other people’s dirty work.
Gonzo has explained to Soledad about her son going off to school to study in Mexico City, he tells her he’ll pay for everything, and it’s a wonderful school and at least her sib will have a chance for a good education and won’t be stuck there in the pueblo to become nothing more than a worker. Eddie listens outside the door. He tells her to think about his proposal, and not to deny her son a better future.
Babs is visiting Evil Cigarman and updates him about Eddie going off to school. He tells her he wants the Elizalde’s destroyed, and that their agony be long and painful.
Soledad is getting ready to take her son to Mexico City. They’re both crying, and she tells him one day he’ll understand why it’s for his own good he’s being sent away to school.
On our new Staircase of Doom, Fernanda cries that she wants to say goodbye to Eddie but her mother says no and sends her back to her room. Mom takes a big hit off her inhaler. After Montse walks away, Liliana comes out of her room with a sneaky look on her face.
Back at the office, Gonzo is sadly telling Babs that at this very moment Soledad is saying goodbye to her son. Gonzo wonders out loud if he’s doing the right thing, and Babs says the separation will be hard for the kids, but it’s the best thing for Fernanda.
The kids have come to say goodbye to Eduardo. Liliana comes to sneak Fernanda off to say goodbye also. Eduardo is sad that Fernanda can’t come to say goodbye. All the kids are crying, as the bus pulls up to take Eddie away. The bus pulls away just as Fernanda arrives screaming his name, she runs after the bus and he runs to the back window to see her. They scream each other’s names, and she’s left standing on the dirt road crying. Liliana tries to console her.
Soledad says goodbye to her son in front of his new school, and tells him she hopes that this sacrifice will be worth it. She’s sure that his father, who is in heaven, is very happy that their son will have a good future.
Montse is thanking Babs for taking care of the problem of Fernanda and Eduardo, but that the only thing that still bothers her is having to see Soledad’s face every day. Babs offers to take care of that problem as well, she can hire another cook. But, Montse says, her husband doesn’t want Soledad to leave the hacienda. Babs says Soledad can still live in her house out in the middle of the fields, but far away from Montse and Gonzo’s kids, and she’ll no longer be a bad influence over them. Montse gives Babs the green light to go ahead with the plan, and says when Soledad gets back this afternoon to give her the bad news that she’s no longer the cook.
Previews: Cigarman gives Babs instructions to get rid of Montse, so Babs can marry Gonzo. He says this is the order of Artemio Bravo. Liliana is listening in on another phone. Gonzo confronts Babs with Liliana’s accusation.
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Wow, another fast recap. Thanks!!! I haven't watched this yet but it sounds good and I can't wait.
Kim P.
Kim P.
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: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 at 12:54:00 AM EST
: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 at 12:54:00 AM EST
Melissa, thanks for the clever and funny recap. Good point about naming a kid Anibal, not to mention it rhymes with animal.
Good Lord, such high drama in this episode. Talk about overreacting, I'm surprised Crabby Mom hasn't keeled over from a heart attack before now. Crabby, drama queen and stupid, I can't say I'll be too sad to see her take a tumble and/or gasp her last breath. She did a great job of ruining her kid's communion. Sheesh, what a terminal wet blanket.
Good Lord, such high drama in this episode. Talk about overreacting, I'm surprised Crabby Mom hasn't keeled over from a heart attack before now. Crabby, drama queen and stupid, I can't say I'll be too sad to see her take a tumble and/or gasp her last breath. She did a great job of ruining her kid's communion. Sheesh, what a terminal wet blanket.
Thanks for a great and fast recap, Melissa.
So far this is moving at a nice pace. How did Soledad know that Liliana was spying on someone's conversation on the phone and not just making a call especially when everyone else was at the communion. I'm glad that Liliana is going to divulge to her Dad Bab's conversations on the phone, as in a very recent novela, a character always kept the important information to himself.. Yes, that's you Pad Tad.
Was that secret hideaway of Fernanda and Eduardo the same love nest that Sofia and Juan found when they floated down the river after Juan was shot. That one had pigeons too. Maybe not.
We can see that AsthMa will do her hysterical self in with a little help from Babs. GinCA
So far this is moving at a nice pace. How did Soledad know that Liliana was spying on someone's conversation on the phone and not just making a call especially when everyone else was at the communion. I'm glad that Liliana is going to divulge to her Dad Bab's conversations on the phone, as in a very recent novela, a character always kept the important information to himself.. Yes, that's you Pad Tad.
Was that secret hideaway of Fernanda and Eduardo the same love nest that Sofia and Juan found when they floated down the river after Juan was shot. That one had pigeons too. Maybe not.
We can see that AsthMa will do her hysterical self in with a little help from Babs. GinCA
Permalink posted by : Wednesday, February 25, 2009 at 1:55:00 AM EST
: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 at 1:55:00 AM EST
Hey, good work! I bet there will be people who forgot the show was at eight tonight so, much appreciated. Is it possible the mean kissy brother was not Anibal, the eldest one, but number two, Camilo?
I'll miss these kids. I think the little Fernanda actress is extremely charismatic and convincing!
I'll miss these kids. I think the little Fernanda actress is extremely charismatic and convincing!
Thank you Melissa, I admire your mastery of all the new characters and their names. "Gonzo" and "AsthMa" and "Babs" are working for me. We'll have to come up with something for Fernanda that doesn't confuse her with Fernando (Colunga), but I'm sure the action and the acting will provide cues.
It's a safe bet that Montse isn't long for this world, but the question is death by staircase or inhaler. When I saw her take a hit of that inhaler standing vertiginously at the top of the staircase, I could see it go either way, or both. But my money's on the asthma. Staircases are usually saved for pregnant ladies.
It's a safe bet that Montse isn't long for this world, but the question is death by staircase or inhaler. When I saw her take a hit of that inhaler standing vertiginously at the top of the staircase, I could see it go either way, or both. But my money's on the asthma. Staircases are usually saved for pregnant ladies.
Wow. Missed this because I was writing my recap but it's certainly moving at a fast pace (unlike another show which will remain nameless) and I appreciate the extra cultural insights you bring, Melissa. Explaining the insult "indio" was helpful. The snotty, contempuous attitude of Montserrat will make it easy to handle her demise. I was afraid she was a goodie replaced by a sexy hottie but she's actually very deserving of a Karmic hit at this point.
Thanks, Melissa, and another thank you to the person who gave us the heads up that this episode would air at 8 pm. Very sad to see Eduardo sent away....but , fret not, gentle viewers...he will turn into a grownup Colunga...can't wait. I wonder how many episodes it will take for him to mature.
Permalink posted by : Wednesday, February 25, 2009 at 7:23:00 AM EST
: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 at 7:23:00 AM EST
Great recap, you keep up with all the drama and I loved the nick names you gave the characters. My favorite is, "BadAss Babs". She can really be evil, and I thought Crabby was bad. Your title was so funny!
I appreciate your telling us what things mean, like "indio". This board has helped me with my Spanish in a fun way.
I know I said this before, but the recaps are the best part of the novelas. :-) Thank you!
Liena , FL
I appreciate your telling us what things mean, like "indio". This board has helped me with my Spanish in a fun way.
I know I said this before, but the recaps are the best part of the novelas. :-) Thank you!
Liena , FL
Permalink posted by : Wednesday, February 25, 2009 at 7:26:00 AM EST
: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 at 7:26:00 AM EST
Thanks, Melissa, for the quick and complete recap. I missed the flowers in the barn. I must have been looking at the light - or at Fernanda because I didn't notice them. De acuerdo - Fernanda and Eduardo are both very appealing and Eduardo has a beautiful smile.
The going-away group must have all made an "A" in crying in acting school. They're right up to Sofia's FELS standard.
The going-away group must have all made an "A" in crying in acting school. They're right up to Sofia's FELS standard.
Melissa: Excellente! Thanks for the cultural backgrounders here, too. Stuff was actually happening at such an unusually fast pace that I missed some of the details you filled in.
The name, Mon"serrat", makes me think of a serrated knife edge. Her voice and whiny 'tude is just as grating. I'm in JudyB's camp and eagerly await her fast approaching demise. One less bit of noise disturbing everybody's WA. After veinte años of saintly devotion to the likes of her, Gonzo deserves a testosterone-filled tumble in bed with a baddy babe like Babs. Just sayin'.....
The name, Mon"serrat", makes me think of a serrated knife edge. Her voice and whiny 'tude is just as grating. I'm in JudyB's camp and eagerly await her fast approaching demise. One less bit of noise disturbing everybody's WA. After veinte años of saintly devotion to the likes of her, Gonzo deserves a testosterone-filled tumble in bed with a baddy babe like Babs. Just sayin'.....
Gracias, Melissa! I don't use captions & my Spanish skills are sketchy at best so when's there's a lot of dialogue, I miss the nuances.
The young actress who plays Fernanda is terrific. I wonder if they'll keep her around for flashbacks.
AsthMa won't be hard to say good bye to & Babs should have an easy time scooping up Gonzo after the fact. (I think Lucero is incredibly beautiful & so far, plays the villainess very well)
I'm liking this one! Can't wait for TBLMOE....he is
so
very
fine.
[sigh]
Maggarita
The young actress who plays Fernanda is terrific. I wonder if they'll keep her around for flashbacks.
AsthMa won't be hard to say good bye to & Babs should have an easy time scooping up Gonzo after the fact. (I think Lucero is incredibly beautiful & so far, plays the villainess very well)
I'm liking this one! Can't wait for TBLMOE....he is
so
very
fine.
[sigh]
Maggarita
Permalink posted by : Wednesday, February 25, 2009 at 8:21:00 AM EST
: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 at 8:21:00 AM EST
Thanks Melissa for the recap. I forgot it was on early last night so I'm hoping my DVR caught it. I'm already sick of AsthMa. The faster the inhaler does her in the better. Those kids are so cute. That one little girl sure could cry. Slofia would be proud. I'm waiting expectantly for the hunk to appear! You guys have me so stoked to see him I'm going crazy. I sure hope he likes to swim naked or take bucket baths!
Connie: go into google images & search for Fernando Colunga.
But that's only 1/2 of it. He's the complete package: sexy voice, killer smile, & if he says "come here" to anyone, they come running.
[sigh]
Maggarita
But that's only 1/2 of it. He's the complete package: sexy voice, killer smile, & if he says "come here" to anyone, they come running.
[sigh]
Maggarita
Permalink posted by : Wednesday, February 25, 2009 at 8:41:00 AM EST
: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 at 8:41:00 AM EST
Thank you for the recap, Melissa, and a great snarky title already! WooHooooooo
I cannot stand AssMa (can I say that here?) because she is just that. What a witch. Methinks she'll receive her just desserts soon and that we in Viewerville will enjoy it.
I'm glad y'all recognized Soledad as the actress who was La Poderosa in Alborada. Now I can see it, too.
Oh well, yet another episode laying the groundwork for our story. I wonder what is the story with Gonzo and Soledad. Most likely just long-term loyalty.
I cannot stand AssMa (can I say that here?) because she is just that. What a witch. Methinks she'll receive her just desserts soon and that we in Viewerville will enjoy it.
I'm glad y'all recognized Soledad as the actress who was La Poderosa in Alborada. Now I can see it, too.
Oh well, yet another episode laying the groundwork for our story. I wonder what is the story with Gonzo and Soledad. Most likely just long-term loyalty.
I wasn't sure about this, since I mostly like the historicals, but it's started off at a gallop. Looking forward to seeing where it goes.
The kids are adorable - so sweet together.
I missed the beginning of the first episode - has there been any explanation of the yellow banner and the .. JJ ... can't remember the name, but it sounds like either a comic book hero or a character they've made up.
The kids are adorable - so sweet together.
I missed the beginning of the first episode - has there been any explanation of the yellow banner and the .. JJ ... can't remember the name, but it sounds like either a comic book hero or a character they've made up.
Permalink posted by : Wednesday, February 25, 2009 at 9:13:00 AM EST
: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 at 9:13:00 AM EST
Connie, I've seen FC in Pasion and Navidad Sin Fin. I just hope he doesn't go with the singsong voice he had in Navidad, very irritating. LOL
If this ends up like Pasion, you won't see too much of him. There were not a lot of scenes where he had his shirt off and they were usually in the dark, hard to see. :-)
Seeing the commercials for MEPS, I think he showed more in those than in Pasion. One thing, he appears to have worked out since Pasion, those clips are more defined that what I remember in Pasion.
Jeff in MN
If this ends up like Pasion, you won't see too much of him. There were not a lot of scenes where he had his shirt off and they were usually in the dark, hard to see. :-)
Seeing the commercials for MEPS, I think he showed more in those than in Pasion. One thing, he appears to have worked out since Pasion, those clips are more defined that what I remember in Pasion.
Jeff in MN
Permalink posted by : Wednesday, February 25, 2009 at 9:14:00 AM EST
: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 at 9:14:00 AM EST
Jeff, I was bewildered by that singsong voice also...I think it was supposed to be some kind of "naco" accent. I found that show and Fernando dorky...but have since revised my opinion after seeing Amor Real....and how!
Thank you Melissa. The pace is fast and details can be missed. Your recap completed the picture for me.
The moon. Those loud crickets. It's all beginning to look so familiar.
Haven't reached for the beany yet. It might need recalibration for this one.
'Vertiginously' ? Agnes, careful with words like that so early in the morning. But wait-there might be a bell tower that Babs lures Monty to. Not exactly a sendup of Veritgo, but could work.
Abuelo P
The moon. Those loud crickets. It's all beginning to look so familiar.
Haven't reached for the beany yet. It might need recalibration for this one.
'Vertiginously' ? Agnes, careful with words like that so early in the morning. But wait-there might be a bell tower that Babs lures Monty to. Not exactly a sendup of Veritgo, but could work.
Abuelo P
Permalink posted by : Wednesday, February 25, 2009 at 9:55:00 AM EST
: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 at 9:55:00 AM EST
Melissa, a great recap and you have already captured the spirit of the show as well as the details. Already two episodes are done and no dead bodies yet. I'm ready for Babs to knock off sickly mom. I thought the music during the encounter between the 2 cute kids was a little odd. I liked it, but it didn't quite match up with a sweet, innocent interlude of puppy love. I'm not even sure of the genre. So far my favorite scenes are the frolicking horses between the breaks. They seem so happy and free. And I agree that the kids have the crying down pat, especially that one little girl. I hope as the years go by that Babs gets anew hairdo.
Carlos
Carlos
Thanks, Melissa for the quick, complete 'cap. Things are developing quickly, I feel the hook in my mouth, and anticipate a tug on the line! Like everyone else, it won't be hard for me to watch AsthMa go, maybe the kids are safer w/ Bad(nice)Ass Babs raising them, at least they won't be subjected to the crazy, overreacting hysteria. Is Gonzalo such a wimp that he is going to allow Soledad to be replaced, with a snap of Bab's fingers? Seems a bit much, what justification is going to be given for dismissing the cook /nanny of many years? Afterall, the percived problem of Fernanda and Eduardo being together has been resolved. I'll bet that the next 15 years transpire tonite, complete with AsthMa and Soledad dying, and the return of a grown, and educated Eduardo.
I like his long hair pictures. The pirate ones are pretty awesome too. He is cute. Ok, so EY has some competition!
dorado dave - ITA that it makes no sense that Babs could manipulate Gonzo so easily in dismissing Soledad, unless Gonzalo sees 'class' distinction --- and not crossing those lines --- more important than loyalty to a longtime good employee. And if that's the case, he deserves to be ruined by Mr. Bad. This is why we never give away or sell our Telenovela Beanie Hats. We always need them, sooner or later. (and usually sooner)
OK, I guess I'm on board with this one. Thanks for the recaps, Melinama and Melissa.
As noted by others, the blacksmith is really skilled at his work. The locket is very nice, good symbolism.
As Jeff mentioned yesterday, our Soledad actress is also Jorge Salinas' mother in Mariana de la Noche. She runs a cantina over there at 1 pm Eastern time.
Fernanda's snotty older brother is really annoying. I'm sure he'll only get worse as he grows older.
I missed out on Alborada, so this is my first exposure to Lucero. She's doing well as a baddie. In our small town, there is a shop for quinceanera gowns, etc. and its name is Lucero.
When I used an inhaler a few years ago, the instructions were to hold the spray in my lungs after I inhaled it. AsthMa just let it drift away. No wonder she's headed for the great beyond.
I can belive Eduardo carving the initials in the post. Making the trails of flower petals seemed a little too sophisticated, but hey, great work. I'm looking forward to FC appearing as the grown Eduardo. Interesting how his curly hair turned straight while he was at school. I guess all that brain strain leaked out through the hair follicles.
La Paloma
As noted by others, the blacksmith is really skilled at his work. The locket is very nice, good symbolism.
As Jeff mentioned yesterday, our Soledad actress is also Jorge Salinas' mother in Mariana de la Noche. She runs a cantina over there at 1 pm Eastern time.
Fernanda's snotty older brother is really annoying. I'm sure he'll only get worse as he grows older.
I missed out on Alborada, so this is my first exposure to Lucero. She's doing well as a baddie. In our small town, there is a shop for quinceanera gowns, etc. and its name is Lucero.
When I used an inhaler a few years ago, the instructions were to hold the spray in my lungs after I inhaled it. AsthMa just let it drift away. No wonder she's headed for the great beyond.
I can belive Eduardo carving the initials in the post. Making the trails of flower petals seemed a little too sophisticated, but hey, great work. I'm looking forward to FC appearing as the grown Eduardo. Interesting how his curly hair turned straight while he was at school. I guess all that brain strain leaked out through the hair follicles.
La Paloma
Permalink posted by : Wednesday, February 25, 2009 at 11:59:00 AM EST
: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 at 11:59:00 AM EST
Melissa, love your clever title. It took a while for it to sink into my feeble brain. And yes, all those kids really can turn on the water works especially the little ones including the little curly haired pinata brother. GinCA
Permalink posted by : Wednesday, February 25, 2009 at 12:20:00 PM EST
: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 at 12:20:00 PM EST
La Paloma - you said what I was dying to come on here and say - Monserrat suffers so bad from her asthma because she has no idea how to properly use the inhaler. Taking a quick puff that way will never help her at all. I suffered from asthma as a teenager and in my early 20s, thankfully I seem to have grown out of it, but the way they show it on TV is always wrong. They show people being hit with attacks like a gunshot or something, or not being able to take a breath. The thing that makes asthma so uncomfortable is the inability to breathe OUT. Like La Paloma said, you have to let out as long a breath as you can, then use the inhaler and suck in as much air as possible and hold your breath for 30 seconds or so to let the medicine get into your lungs. People compare it to smoking pot and I guess that's accurate, but I've never smoked pot so I'm just guessing. Anyway, the whole Asthma thing is obviously going to be the death of Monserrat. Barbara just needs to find out what she's allergic to and put a lot of that around her, that will give her some breathing problems that quick puffs on an inhaler will never fix.
Great recap today and yesterday too (I didn't make it online until today to comment) and I'm liking this show so far. Someone mentioned giving up on Tontas even though Camil is so much fun to watch, that's how I ended up too. I stopped writing recaps due to being too busy and once I didn't HAVE to keep up with the show, my interest faded pretty quickly. I hope this one works out better.
Great recap today and yesterday too (I didn't make it online until today to comment) and I'm liking this show so far. Someone mentioned giving up on Tontas even though Camil is so much fun to watch, that's how I ended up too. I stopped writing recaps due to being too busy and once I didn't HAVE to keep up with the show, my interest faded pretty quickly. I hope this one works out better.
On thinking this over (¡Danger Will Robinson!), I realize there's another possibility. What's with all the orange juice that Babs, so obsequiously*, feeds to AsthMa? Is she poisoning her?
*that's for you Abuelo P.
*that's for you Abuelo P.
If my calculations are correct, the hunk will show up tomorrow night.
Eduardito is so cute, with long eyelashes, it's easy to see how he can grow up to be Fernando Colunga.
Eduardito is so cute, with long eyelashes, it's easy to see how he can grow up to be Fernando Colunga.
AgnesinNY, you touched my funny bone with that "staircases are usually saved for pregnant ladies".
I love the cute kids...they act well without whinning. But, EVEN IF Eddie cleaned up ALL the gardens in Mexico would he collect that many fallen rose petals to sprinkle that path thru the entrance, down to the end of the dairy barn up the tall staircase going in two directions to the carving post!? AND, the puppy-lovers calling out one another's names? Out their respective windows? AT BEDTIME!? Where is your mother!
Babs seems to have spent more time than necessary over that split second kiss too.
Thank you Melissa. And I often wondered about that word because my frame of reference was only the color, blue.
Monserrat seems seriously out of control: slapping her daughter, insulting slurs about people in front of children. No wonder she's not in control of her health problem.
I love the cute kids...they act well without whinning. But, EVEN IF Eddie cleaned up ALL the gardens in Mexico would he collect that many fallen rose petals to sprinkle that path thru the entrance, down to the end of the dairy barn up the tall staircase going in two directions to the carving post!? AND, the puppy-lovers calling out one another's names? Out their respective windows? AT BEDTIME!? Where is your mother!
Babs seems to have spent more time than necessary over that split second kiss too.
Thank you Melissa. And I often wondered about that word because my frame of reference was only the color, blue.
Monserrat seems seriously out of control: slapping her daughter, insulting slurs about people in front of children. No wonder she's not in control of her health problem.
I can't help thinking of Monserrat as Monster Rat! Maybe she'll eat the wrong cheese, wheeze, take a toke off the poison inhaler, and fall down the stairs!
Permalink posted by : Wednesday, February 25, 2009 at 1:24:00 PM EST
: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 at 1:24:00 PM EST
Thanks, Melissa for a great recap.
I'm hoping Montserrat is gone soon, mainly because the name is too long to type, and Montse sounds weird!
I now know how all the grown up characters on novelas cry so well - they obviously have a crying school for the young kid actors, and everyone on this show got an A. By the time they grow up, they'll be able to turn on the fountains at will.
I'm hoping Montserrat is gone soon, mainly because the name is too long to type, and Montse sounds weird!
I now know how all the grown up characters on novelas cry so well - they obviously have a crying school for the young kid actors, and everyone on this show got an A. By the time they grow up, they'll be able to turn on the fountains at will.
How about MonseRATA?
Ibarramedia
Ibarramedia
Permalink posted by : Wednesday, February 25, 2009 at 2:37:00 PM EST
: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 at 2:37:00 PM EST
I'm in agreement with everyone else... sure Babs is bad and all, but Montserrat's death cannot come soon enough!!
Is "ladino" the same as "indio"? That's what I thought she was saying last night.
Is "ladino" the same as "indio"? That's what I thought she was saying last night.
Melissa, Thanks for the able handling of episode two. I was so glad they didn't cancel last night and instead gave us a much needed break from Cuidado. I am really liking this so far. Your title was great and I am enjoying everyone's comments, how quickly you all find your humor.
Since Gonzalo and his evil brother Cigarman have known Soledad for so long, (Cig said she was the only one that would still know him so she has to be disposed of) perhaps she was with them as the child of another servant or came to their home very young. Gonzo seems really devoted to her and not at all prejudiced but seems to assume his daughter has to be kept from the clutches of poverty, especially poor men in her future. Very typical for the time but YUCK!
Lucero is a lovely name, meaning bright star, like brilliant light, which of course is Venus either the morning or evening star depending on time of year.
I am thinking Baba will find a way to disqualify Lilliana's report to Dad Gonzo. He doesn't seem like a great listener or discerning thinker already.
Loved the Serrated image of Monserrat, monass, assma, et al. Hopefully she won't last much past this week, her grating voice is too close to the Grabiela we just dispensed with in FELS.
Since Gonzalo and his evil brother Cigarman have known Soledad for so long, (Cig said she was the only one that would still know him so she has to be disposed of) perhaps she was with them as the child of another servant or came to their home very young. Gonzo seems really devoted to her and not at all prejudiced but seems to assume his daughter has to be kept from the clutches of poverty, especially poor men in her future. Very typical for the time but YUCK!
Lucero is a lovely name, meaning bright star, like brilliant light, which of course is Venus either the morning or evening star depending on time of year.
I am thinking Baba will find a way to disqualify Lilliana's report to Dad Gonzo. He doesn't seem like a great listener or discerning thinker already.
Loved the Serrated image of Monserrat, monass, assma, et al. Hopefully she won't last much past this week, her grating voice is too close to the Grabiela we just dispensed with in FELS.
Excellent recap. Crabby mom got on my nerves. Doesn't seem like she's long for this world and Babs devious mind will find a way to help her make a exit. I felt bad for the young sweethearts torn apart because of vicious lies and manipulations but if everything went well the novela would be over soon. I guess tonight we'll see everyone all grown up and the appearance of TBLMOE.
Julie, I heard both indio and ladino used last night. Ladino is also a smear from Spain since it refers to the Jews and the language they used called ladino which is a mix of Spanish and Hebrew. Ladino is also used as an insult of someone's untrustworthyness, stingyness and other insults used in the past (let us hope) to insult Jewish people.
Cheryl is right. Here's the definition of Ladino:
1) A nearly extinct Romance language, descended from medieval Spanish, spoken by Sephardic Jews especially in the Balkans, Turkey, and the Near East. Also called Judeo-Spanish.
2) Also ladino In Central America, a Spanish-speaking or acculturated Indian; a mestizo.
Source: http://education.yahoo.com/reference/dictionary/entry/Ladino
1) A nearly extinct Romance language, descended from medieval Spanish, spoken by Sephardic Jews especially in the Balkans, Turkey, and the Near East. Also called Judeo-Spanish.
2) Also ladino In Central America, a Spanish-speaking or acculturated Indian; a mestizo.
Source: http://education.yahoo.com/reference/dictionary/entry/Ladino
Thanks for the recap Melissa. ITA with everyone on AsthMA mom. I'm looking forward to her leaving us. Her reaction to their kiss was so over the top (along with Babs).
Gee, I hope that Babs doesn't get around to bumping off Liliana right away. She's a real firecracker and seems to be on top of things. At first(Monday) I thought that she would be an annoying pest, but I see all sorts of possibilities for her character and am anxious to see how she is portrayed as an adult.
Carlos
Carlos
Thanks for clarifying "ladino."
Funny, Montserrat thinks she's so classy, yet she doesn't hesitate to use language that doesn't befit a classy lady.
In the avances last night I thought I saw Babs reaching for a pillow. I don't know enough about asthma to know if smothercation with a pillow can pass for an asthma-related death during an autopsy. Perhaps a few telltale feathers in the victim's lungs would alert the examiner to foul play. (Or "fowl" play... hahaha I kill me!)
If I had to guess who's the first lucky gal to take a "trip" down those stairs, my money would be on Liliana. I'm already hoping Barb will be the last.
Funny, Montserrat thinks she's so classy, yet she doesn't hesitate to use language that doesn't befit a classy lady.
In the avances last night I thought I saw Babs reaching for a pillow. I don't know enough about asthma to know if smothercation with a pillow can pass for an asthma-related death during an autopsy. Perhaps a few telltale feathers in the victim's lungs would alert the examiner to foul play. (Or "fowl" play... hahaha I kill me!)
If I had to guess who's the first lucky gal to take a "trip" down those stairs, my money would be on Liliana. I'm already hoping Barb will be the last.
Oh Carlos, even if Babs tries to do away with Liliana, I bet Liliana will survive. She strikes as the extra-obstinate type. No way will she drop dead just because some bossy grownup wants her to. :-)
Thanks Melissa, good recap.
MonseRata obviously and luckily didn't raise those cute kids. I'd be surprised she can manage to get herself dressed in the morning without a hissy fit. If she's not suffocated tonight, I'll be happy to push her down the stairs...
jb
MonseRata obviously and luckily didn't raise those cute kids. I'd be surprised she can manage to get herself dressed in the morning without a hissy fit. If she's not suffocated tonight, I'll be happy to push her down the stairs...
jb
Permalink posted by : Wednesday, February 25, 2009 at 5:19:00 PM EST
: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 at 5:19:00 PM EST
Thanks, Melissa, great recap. Man, what a manipulative b**** that Babs is! Her work isn't too hard so far, Gonzo and Monsterat are putty in her hands. I'm sure she's got her lies all lined up when she gets confronted. And the kids. Now I'm not one to sniff and snot over tv, but their tearful scene kinda got to me. They are cute and good actors. I think this is gonna be allright!
Khalilah
Khalilah
Permalink posted by : Wednesday, February 25, 2009 at 5:46:00 PM EST
: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 at 5:46:00 PM EST
I wonder if both Gonzo and Cigarman have a little back history with Soledad? Perhaps Gonzo and Soledad were Fernanda and Eduardo in their younger days? Sexes reversed.
Perhaps Cigar and Soledad had some history as well? Or perhaps Cigar and MonseRata had some history and she chose Gonzo instead? Ah, but then besides Soledad, MonseRata could 'rat' out Cigarman as well and Soledad seemed to be the danger to him.
Wondering those things because I can't figure out why Cigarman wants Babs to do in Montserata, but just discredit Soledad. Seems like if Soledad is a danger to him, then you would want her dead as well? Why save her? :-)
Jeff in MN
Perhaps Cigar and Soledad had some history as well? Or perhaps Cigar and MonseRata had some history and she chose Gonzo instead? Ah, but then besides Soledad, MonseRata could 'rat' out Cigarman as well and Soledad seemed to be the danger to him.
Wondering those things because I can't figure out why Cigarman wants Babs to do in Montserata, but just discredit Soledad. Seems like if Soledad is a danger to him, then you would want her dead as well? Why save her? :-)
Jeff in MN
Permalink posted by : Wednesday, February 25, 2009 at 5:51:00 PM EST
: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 at 5:51:00 PM EST
Ha..Great comments. Julie~~~You kill me , too. Doris~~~A clarification : The actress playing Soledad was the daughter of La Poderosa in Alborada. And I agree that this novela is moving really fast right from the get-go. Okay...now I want to see Eduardo all growed up. I am impatient to see Fernando in modern day clothes even though I like him best in those swashbuckling garments and a sword in his hand. Beggars can't be choosers. Let the games begin.
Permalink posted by : Wednesday, February 25, 2009 at 5:59:00 PM EST
: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 at 5:59:00 PM EST
I think maybe he's just trying to reduce the number of suspicious deaths that have to take place around that house. It would look funny if Montsy and Soledad both died.
Agreed, Susanlynn - it's moving fast, but not TOO fast. Like, not rushed. I thought the beginnings of Pasion, Querida Enemiga, and Fuego were too hurried, with the high drama kicking in before we knew enough about the characters to really care about them.
Not that the drama here isn't heavy too, but with Fuego we had two people dead by the end of the second episode. In Pasion, I think Camila was dragged away, almost raped, kidnapped, raped, and sold as a slave within just the first few days, meanwhile Santiago was in a coma.
I feel like MEPS is starting off just right, with a nice hefty starter anvil, lots of tension, and the only truly irritating character likely to be whacked real soon; we're not nearly in overkill territory yet. My beanie barely even has a dent in it. I'm pretty happy with this so far!
Not that the drama here isn't heavy too, but with Fuego we had two people dead by the end of the second episode. In Pasion, I think Camila was dragged away, almost raped, kidnapped, raped, and sold as a slave within just the first few days, meanwhile Santiago was in a coma.
I feel like MEPS is starting off just right, with a nice hefty starter anvil, lots of tension, and the only truly irritating character likely to be whacked real soon; we're not nearly in overkill territory yet. My beanie barely even has a dent in it. I'm pretty happy with this so far!
Artemio wants Barbara to get rid of Moontserratt so she can marry Gonzalo to carry out his vengeance against the family.
Thanks a lot for the recaps. Helps with my learning of the laanguage and the story-lines are great. And for those who worked on Fuego en la Sangre- great job too!
Manana es Para Siempre is going to be quite interesting!
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Manana es Para Siempre is going to be quite interesting!
Permalink posted by : Wednesday, February 25, 2009 at 10:06:00 PM EST
: Wednesday, February 25, 2009 at 10:06:00 PM EST
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