Tuesday, March 10, 2009

Both Marisela and Santos confront Doña Bárbara, Tuesday, March 10

Marisela and Genoveva stare at Cecilia and Antonio, and Marisela asks why they are so quiet. Who is in that state? Cecilia simply says: “It appears that it’s Bárbara Guaimaran." Marisela is stunned.

Arias tells Santos he needs to know the truth. Doña Bárbara is expecting a child.

DB is on her bed in a dreamy state, saying she will have a child with Santos’ eyes and intelligence and her character and will. The child is growing, and it’s something of Santos that no one can take away.

Santos tells Arias it’s a lie, that someone was paid to say this. Arias says this offends him, since he did the tests in his own office. Santos won’t accept it; he says she must have somehow fooled Arias.

Cecilia tells Marisela that she saw DB crying with joy in the church. Marisela mirrors Santos’ reaction, saying it must be a lie, a trick. She bursts into tears.

Santos tells Arias that, if DB is pregnant, it’s not his. Arias asks how long since they had relations; Santos replies 3 months. Arias tells him it’s exactly the duration of her pregnancy.

Pernalete changes his tune and his tone with Gonzalo. He tells him he has nothing to hide. Gonzalo tells him this was just to introduce himself; he’ll come officially tomorrow. Gonzalo invites Muijquita to have a drink; Pernalete wants to tag along, but Gonzalo tells him that it’s to be a drink with friends and turns his back.

Cecilia tells Marisela she has to face it. Marisela is now sobbing. She says he told her he broke up with DB before she returned from the capital. She insists Santos has never lied to her.

Santos tells Arias about the visit to the capital when they told her she would never conceive. Arias reminds him she did do fertility treatments, and sometimes they work slowly.

Cecilia still maintains it’s true since she saw her thanking the Virgin. Geno says maybe it’s not Santos’ baby.

Santos runs off, leaving the Altamira guys at one table and Arias at another. Antonio approaches Arias, who asks if he’s come to pick a fight with him. Antonio just says he wants to know if it’s true about DB. Arias says it is, that he told Santos, and that he ran away as if the devil were after him.

DB sends Juan Primito to see how Marisela is behaving. E gives her a dirty look, but she says she’s dying of curiosity.

Marisela is beside herself. She says she’ll die if Santos has lied to her. He swore to her that he never touched Barbara after they became lovers. She says she believed him, and if he lied, she doesn’t know what she’ll do.

Santos goes to see DB. She smirks: “How quickly the news gets around! You found out? Well then be happy, because you’re going to be a papa!”

Santos tells her it’s a lie and that it’s months since he had sex with her. She tells him the last time they were together she became pregnant. He tells her he’s fed up with lies and tricks. She tells him he feels guilty because he got up from her bed and went to her daughter’s. But here is our child to prove that our love was real, and that it was good. DB tells him he broke up with her as soon as he learned that Marisela had not gone with Gonzalo. He replies that he broke up with her when he found out who she really was.

Marisela is trying to cook, saying her tears are from onions, but she’s inconsolable. Both Genoveva and then Antonio try to comfort her.

DB is laughing that he would think she’s as stupid as Federica, getting pregnant by some other guy to trap him. She says: Let’s see, who could it be? One of the Mondragones? Balbino Paiba or Melquiades? She says it’s ridiculous and that he knows that she loved him and was only with him and that she still only loves him. She tries to move closer, but he pulls away. She says he hates her because she’s ruining his cochinada (filthy behavior) with her daughter. Santos replies that no one can ruin what he and Marisela have.

DB says we’ll see when she learns I’m expecting her little brother. She accuses him of wanting her to get rid of the child. He says he’s not in favor of abortion. She says, but you don’t want to have a child with me. Santos replies, of course not, you’re a frightful mother! DB says she’ll raise the child with or without him. He says if it’s true, he’ll assume responsibility. DB laughs and says, if it’s true? When the child is born we’ll have those tests they do in the city. Now leave, doctorcito. After he goes she says: Until forever, my love.

The married and engaged guys leave the drinking party and are accused of being varones domados (henpecked) by Gonzalo. Andrés tells him that he’s envious because he hasn’t gotten any of what dominated them!

Pernalete is trying to make nice with DB, asking for her help with Gonzalo. He says he knows he didn’t behave well with her before, but it was a difficult time. Now this commissioner is cortando rabos y orejas, pavoneandose y amenazandome (cutting off tails and ears, peacocking around and threatening me) in my office. He says the guy said he’s a friend of yours. He tells her its Gonzalo Zuloaga, and she bursts out laughing.

Gonzalo, of course, gets it out of Arias with a couple of shots about the pregnancy. G returns to his room, ruminating. He thinks that this time Santos really stepped in it and that he’s lost him as an ally.

Marisela is in the truck, still crying, asking her father to make it not true.

The Mondragones are lounging in the sala at El Miedo. Celeste asks Tigre to take her to town to the movies; she’s dying of boredom. Leon pipes up that she’s not going anywhere; he knows she’s flirting with Pajarote. Their mother makes a comment about what Eustaquia said about her cooking, and the boys are trying to hide their laughter. This is apparently the truth.

Marisela shows up at El Miedo. DB smiles at her and says, "Hijita, you found out!" Marisela asks if it’s true. DB replies: "Yes, and, of course you know who the papa is." (What ever happened to the vow to the Virgin to treat her daughter well in gratitude for the pregnancy?)

Marisela asks when she became pregnant. DB lies and says she doesn’t know. She isn’t regular and they made love a lot. (At this point I could strangle her with Melquiades’ beads!!!) DB says what does she want to hear? That he saw you and never came back to me. She says that’s not true. When will Marisela stop being so ingenuous? Men are naturally unfaithful. He was playing with us both. Marisela is devastated, tears rolling down her face. She tells DB she’s cruel and false and that everything she says is a lie. DB replies that one thing is true; the child in her stomach is the proof of the love she had with Santos. The baby is coming. You will see him every day – your little brother – and I’m going to call him Santos.

She goes on what seems like forever, poisoning her mind. She said she didn’t know for sure Santos was betraying her until she found out about the serenade. She said that’s when she lost her illusions. But they kept on making love. And when Santos told Marisela he had nothing to do with DB, it was a lie.

Marisela runs out. DB says to herself: “There you go, brokenhearted. An eye for an eye, daughter. I’m sorry it had to be me to do it, but that’s the way it is, better you than me.”

Marisela goes to the grave of Lorenzo. Juan Primito doesn’t run back to DB to tell her how Marisela is doing; instead he goes to tell Santos where she is. Santos is frantic with worry about her.

Eustaquia gives DB a sad look. DB looks a bit guilty, but says “Why this face, viejita?” Eustaquia replies that, if DB treats her first child this way, she doesn’t think she’ll be any better with the one that’s coming. DB looks a bit shocked.

Gonzalo arrives to speak with DB and congratulates her on her pregnancy. She tells him he got here just in time to triumph where he failed before.

Santos finds Marisela. She kisses him, tears still running down her cheeks, and looks him right in the eye, asking him to tell her that the child is not his.

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Oh dear. Well I suppose it's telenovela rules that the course of true love never did run smooth.

Novelera, I really like the phrase you translated, the one about peacocking around. Super recap, thank you!
 

Thank you, Novelera, for doing such a wonderful job on the recap! This is so sad for Marisela. I can't remember exactly...did Santos sleep with DB at the same time he was sleeping with Marisela? Also, I love how well the actor who plays Pernalete displays his stroke. It looks very real.
 

Thanks, Novelera. Since I don't understand much of what is said, at the end when DB embraces Gonzolo, I thought that he might have gotten her pregnant to get Marisela away from Santos. True love never runs smoothly ...especially in telenovelas. How many more episodes remain ? I guess DB will have to die so that Santos and Marisela can be together.
 

Jody, thanks for your kind words. No, Santos did not sleep with them both at the same time. He broke up with DB and left Altamira for a time to live in town after he read the diary of William Danger, given to him anonymously by Sapo. I'm pretty sure Marisela was still in the capital then. When DB realized he wasn't coming back, she went back to El Miedo to live.

Sylvia Sharkbait: yes, I loved Pernalete's use of pavonearse, which comes from the Spanish for peacock: pavo real. It means to strut around, to swagger, to show off. And Gonzalo definitely has a bit of the big head over his new role in the Government.
 

This novela is almost sadistic. I felt so sorry for Marisela and even though Santos is to blame for sleeping that last time with the witch, I feel sorry for him too. DB is the worse mother I've seen in a novela. Thanks for the recap novelera.
 

Great recap, Novelera! I missed several words and phrases in that one.

Yes, DB is the worse 'mother' I've seen in a telenovela. She'll do or say anything to get her way at anyone's cost. She's truly and completely driven by her fear. I'm disappointed that Eustaquia stays by her side, knowing all that DB has done.

Santos still isn't the galan I was hoping for. He should've insisted that he and Marisela wait a while before having sex. He's old enough to know much better and he's not applying anything he's learned. I think Dr. Arias said it best when he said something to the effect that: Santos was a good just man, but a womanizer...
jb
 

DB doesn't get a gold star for motherhood, but she doesn't even come close to Gabriela in Fuego en la Sangre, who first tried to cause accidents so her daughter would lose her baby, then collaborated in kidnapping the baby before the mother even set eyes on it!
 

Santos is not perfect (by a long shot) but he is not the worse telenovela galan I've seen. It is just that you need a real heroic character to deal and defeat something so evil as Barbara. 'Human' doesn't cut it. That's why it will probably be Marisela who will become strong enough to defeat the monster. I do not think that Barbara is driven by fear. I think she is driven by her ego and ambition. She is a psychopath, nothing less, nothing more. I dind her truly revolting and she is making me not want to watch this anymore. The amount of evil in this novela is huge turn off.
 

Novelera, Thanks so much for the recap. This is the telenovela that makes me so agitated but I can't leave it alone. Santos is kind of outed here and deserves it. He seems to take no responsibility for his womanizing which I really dislike because he has betrayed Barbara by his lusting after the teenage daughter whom he has now seduced after giving in to her teen crush on him. I think this is poetic justice. Yeah, I know, Barbara is a killer and full of vengeance but still doesn't deserve to have someone throw her over for her daughter. Although I know the telenovela writers will somehow make this all okay by killing off Barbara so that Santos can really be permanently with Marisela. I just can't really stand to look at their romantic moments that you all seem to enjoy so much. Here is one little minority vote against Santos. Although I think Cristian Meier (sp?) is a totally hot and handsome actor, actually all three of them are truly luscious. I guess I am saying, I peek through my fingers some.... Such an anti-woman story though bothers me although I know it is so typical and so acceptable for the time it was originally written in.
 

CherylNewMex, this telenovela version has absolutely nothing to do with the original book (despite their claims that it is an adaptation. What it is is a travesty) The only thing they kept, were the names of the characters. In the book Santos never got romantically or sexually involved with the witch. I'm sorry but this Santos mistake hasn't been that he left the monster. It was that he got involved with her in the first place. It is also wrong of him to have gotten involved with Marisela so fast. But if one tried to see things from him pov, it would be understandable, although still, a mistake. Poetic justice? maybe. But poor baby! To use a baby to punish a man? I don't know how you see this novela as machista. I see the opposite. I think the writer (a woman) hates men, and hated Gallegos materpiece so she totally desecrated her by destroying its hero (Santos Luzardo). CM is doing a great job with the crappy character he has been handed, but still. This novela is an insult to men! All of the supposedly male bad traits are exposed and represented by Luzardo, while a psychopath like Barbara is glorified! preposterous!
 

I love, love, love differing viewpoints on themes in telenovelas. I have finished two parts of Gallegos' novel. We'll read the third and final section spring quarter in my Spanish class. It doesn't surprise me that Santos, as you say, never really gets it on with DB in the novel. But I've been reading the novel and watching the novela at the same time and don't think it's such a bad adaptation. Of course the TN writers concentrate more on sex. But many of the elements in the novel are there: the conflict between civilization and barbarism represented by Santos and DB. The taming of the horse by Santos when he first arrives. Marisela's infatuation with Santos. Pernalete is much as the actor portrays him, with less comic relief, as is Mujiquita.

I sort of hate Bárbara's behavior but can't bring myself to hate her. She does love Santos and can't accept his loss. Her life was ruined and her innocence stolen by the guys from the boat. She's also fun to watch when she outsmarts everyone.

As far as Santos womanizing, not sure I see it that way. There was an element early in the TN of perhaps real occult powers involved (a form of magical realism) when DB decides she must have Santos and casts spells. The theme of a good man falling for a bad woman using every trick in the book exists in real life.

In my view, Marisela has been there all along (except when she ran away) and has truly loved him. He loved her too, but was in denial about it. Once he really and truly broke free of DB and the darkness and barbarism she represented (something that called out to the side of the cruel Luzardos in him) he realized he'd lost the best thing in his life. He tells her as much in one scene, saying she is the only one who can "save him". By this he means the cruel Luzardo traits in himself
 

Anon at Mar 11, 05:53 and Novelera, I too love the diverse opinions. Thanks for the insights into the book which I still have not read although thanks to Novelera I have the vocabulary list. How lucky you are reading this in three parts in a Spanish class so you can discuss each piece.

Interesting point that the writer is making all the men kind of asinine. When I think about it, you are absolutely right. And I would like to see Santos as a more noble creature which he apparently was in the novel. This will push me over the edge to begin reading the novel. Thanks to both of you, I love conversations that make people think and consider diverse views.
 

Interesting stuff! I will be reading the book after the show finishes. Wish I had a class like the one Novelera is taking! It does make me wonder what the telenovela writer's actual intent was.

I didn't see most of Fuego, but I think you're right, Novelera. I did see Gabriela try to set Sofia on fire. Yuk.

I would guess DB is a psychopath, definitely a sick gal. I see her driven by her own fear because she lacks in faith or trust in anything, even herself. (control freak) She had a fearful experience, but instead of facing it, her insecurity and fear of abandonment takes precedence over everything else. Her fear is masked by anger and is so great that she loses sight of the actual problem and is in deep denial. She pretends to be someone else so she can guard against pain. At least that's how it seems to me...
jb
 

Wow jb, that's pretty deep.

Novelera, I know what you mean about not being able to hate DB. However I think her character as written in this novela is rather hateful. So why do I "get" why she does her horrible things and why do I continue to feel sorry for her? I wonder if it has more to do with the superb acting by Edith Gonzalez than the way the part is written? I'm not sure, just wondering. I have been a huge fan of hers ever since I saw her live in the Aventurera revue last summer.
 

Ha, just skin deep, Cap'n Sharkbait! How wonderful that you saw Edith live. Where was that? The only thing I've seen her in was Mundo de Fieras and she was always screaming. In DB, I can see she's actually a good actress and plays a whole range of emotions...
jb
 

I agree that Edith is an interesting actress . She has so many different looks. In Mundo, she was the BSC Joselyn dressed to the nines with long Marilyn Monroe hair and mascared eyes. When she was a judge on the Bailando show , she had blonde hair and softer eye makeup and she seemed to be very polite to the comtestants. Is it just me , or is Dona's hair getting darker as her character falls deeper into the darkness ? Dona is a tragic figure doomed to darkness. I always find it intriguing that in real life, some people go through terrible ordeals and come out of the experience stronger and kinder and better , while others are scarred and damaged forever from the experience. The other night on Manana someone referred to the Lucero character as ''Dona Barbara.'' Was that a sneaky shout out to this novela ?
 

Thanks for another great recap Novelera ;) Re: your Melquiades question from Monday's epi - Melquiades confessed to trying to kill Santos and killing BP behind DB’s back. We know he did neither of these things, but it let DB off the hook.

Susalynn, "doña" is a term of respect, like "Ma'am" or calling someone "Miss" or "Mrs," so it would make sense to refer to someone that powerful with that moniker. The irony of Barbara Greco having such a famous namesake (DB, the novel, was written in the 40s and there have been at least 3 movie versions since) probably wasn't lost on the writers. María Félix portrayed DB in the 2nd movie version and was forever known as "La Doña." She was already one of México's most successful actresses and this only cemented her fame.

Re: Edith Gonzalez, I think she's a natural blond (she had blond hair in all her earlier TNs like "Los Ticos Tambien Lloran"), so I was quite surprised in the few promos I saw for Mundo (I had taken a TN sabatical for about a decade). She actually got her start as an ingenue and almost reprised her role as Mónica in a sequel to "Corazón Salvaje," but the plans were 86d after her costar, Eduardo Palomo, died.

Hard to say if it's EG or the character that some of us find sympathetic. There is something to be said for the fact that, no matter how much pain she inflicts on others, she always manages to inflict just as much on herself. She has unknowingly sabotaged all her opportunities at happiness, and knowing she will never be happy makes her somewhat sympathetic. There is a also an element of admiration, as she managed to survive through a terrible tragedy and came out stronger (albeit, somewhat evil). There are people that consider "Medea" a feminist play, though it's very hard to root for someone who kills her own kids, no matter how evil her hubby is. Although we may hate her methods, and certainly the way she treats her daughter, there is something to be said for a strong woman who isn't afraid to get her hands dirty to achieve power and get revenge. Let's face it, we all cheered a little inside each time she killed one of her rapists, and are totally rooting for her to give Sapo his just desserts.
 

jb, last summer Carmen Salinas's live revue "Aventurera" based on the 1950 classic film of the same name (rent it on Netflix), toured several US cities. Luckily San Jose was one of them. Edith Gonzalez was in the starring role and she acted, sang, danced (boy did she dance), and was very impressive. It also had Eduardo Santamarina, Jorge Salinas, Sergio Sendel, and others in it. It was a bit of a lark but quite fun. I hope it goes on tour again some time.
 

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