Saturday, April 18, 2009
Tontas no Van Friday 4/17 Advance the Plot, Not a Lot. But lots of life’s lessons learned
When last we left off, everyone was joining up to investigate Mari’s disappearance, and Paulina had a stalker! Well, we’ll have to wait ‘til Monday to find out more, ‘cause tonight we just concentrate on all our cute characters. What fun!
Santi has just read Mariloca’s evil email, saying she’s going to “get rid of the brat, and do you know what that means?”. Santi is desperate, and complains to his mother he has to do something, but Mari is crazy. We jump to the hotel in Ecuador, where Alicia is now resting on the couch, having set up the laptop for Mari, and Mari’s happy, because she’s connected in chat with Santi! On hearing this, Alicia pops up to see, and here’s (sort of) what they say:
M: Dear Santiago..
S: Don’t think I won’t fight. I’m going to search for you and find you.
M: You’re in no position to threaten me.
S: If you return with the baby, I’ll forget everything and won’t denounce you, but if you don’t…I won’t give up searching, even if it takes my whole life. And I swear, if you call my son a brat again…
(At this point, Alicia takes over, saying Mari types too slowly, and types
M: Oh, I’m really ashamed (she actually types me das lastima, or you give me pity, or shame, but I think she meant it sarcastically)
Alicia slams the computer shut, saying she doesn’t want to be discovered.
OK, is it just me, or is this chat not really that earthshaking? I think the music and sound effects make us think everything is super important.
Santi’s phone rings, and it’s Candy. He tells her he was chatting with Mari on the computer. Candy the Wise says “Great, at least you’re communicating. Maybe she’ll come back.” (Hah!) Santi’s not quite as optimistic.
Chava comes home from school with lots of homework. Charly (who doesn’t attend school these days) tells him studying is a waste of time (estudiar no sirve para nada). You just end up working anyway, why study? Chava considers this pearl of wisdom.
Candy is walking Rocío home from school. She teaches Rocío how to give sad people smiles. You smile yourself, grab the smile with your hand, and throw it onto the sadsacks. Simple! They’re going to do this to Santi, and Candy has another idea, too, for which she needs Rocío’s help, and they rush off to plan.
We finally get to find out who Aracely is. She’s Ceci’s sister! Soledad had thought she was Ceci’s gay lover. Soledad gets a sheepish look on her face. Ba-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-d Sole!
Chava, having learned his lesson from Charly, tells Candy he’s not going to school anymore, since studying “don’t make him more smarter” (he didn’t really say that, I’m just in a mood today). Candy points out that Pat studied and is a professional, Santi studied and is a doctor, and she studied and is a journalist (oh THAT’s what she is). Chava’s not convinced and runs to his room saying Candy is mala.
Ed carries two young boys out of his office, saying he’ll teach them everything. Chayo, in headscarf and apron, brings 6 other boys to greet their “Daddy”, and recites their names, beginning with Lalito. She now wants to start having some girls, beginning with Chayito. Oh, it’s a dream. Ed wakes up to a watching Hortensia, who asks how Santi’s doing. Not well. The phone rings, and Candy has called to ask when Santi will be finished with patients today.
With the “lessons learned” music playing in the background, Ceci says bye to her sis (who hadn’t known she was gay, but is fine with it), asking her to help with the parents. Aracely wants to know if Ceci wants her parents to forgive her. Of course not, would someone want to be forgiven for being blond (güera), for being light-skinned (blanca), or for the nose I have? (looking at her nose, I’m not so sure about the last one). Being gay is just part of her. Okay, Ara will see what she can do with the parents. After she leaves, Soledad is contrite, but Ceci is gracious, and the two gals are pals again, ready for a little coffee and gossip.
No one’s home at Candy’s except Gregoria and Arturo, sittin’ on the sofa. She’s conflicted. She wants him, she wants him not, she wants him, and so on. Her daughter Candy says when you have true love, you know it for sure. Why can’t this be easier? Arturo offers to flip a coin to help her. He does, it comes out sunny side up (el sol), he won, but Greg just tells him to drink his coffee.
A smiling Candy asks Horti if Santi’s alone in his office. He sure is. Perfecto! Santi looks up from his desk to the sound of the Shark in the Bay song, being sung by a band of mariachis! Enter Zamora, Toño and the other guys from the restaurant, Horti’s dancing, and we even have two new members, dressed head to toe in beautiful mariachi outfits, black with white piping and big red mariachi ties, it’s Candy and Rocío! So this is the secret plan Candy was explaining to Rocío earlier. The music stops (with some non-existent trumpets), and Rocío proceeds to show Santi the magic smile transfer trick she learned from Candy. She smiles, grabs the smile, tosses it to Candy, then teaches Santi, throwing him a big smile, which he shares with the band. Mission accomplished, the band leaves (more non-existent trumpets), Horti takes Rocío to get a milkshake or treat, leaving Candy with Santi. At first she’s a little sad, thinking of Paulina, but Santi assures her he has nothing to do (nada que ver) with Pau, and gives her a magic smile. Candy then adds that the music was not all she has planned to cheer him up. She shyly invites him out to dinner! (Yes!) Of course, it’s a dinner of amigos, nothing more, but they both look quite happy as they shake on it.
In Lucía’s room, we see a large floppy green stuffed doll with wings. Donato asks Lucía what it is, and it’s a mysterious angel (angel misterioso). When she and Charly were novios, they invented it to take care of bad things in life. It’s mysterious, because love is like that, you never know when it’ll arrive. She stuffs it in her large blue purse and she’s off.
She arrives in the restaurant, where Meño begs her to help with Charly, who’s very depressed, and won’t get out of bed. She tells him not to worry, Charly’s going to get out of bed on his own, and they’re going to give a talk at the Institute. Meño is pessimistic. But Lucía shows him the angel misterioso, and explains that she and Charly have a pact that if Charly wants to see the angel, Lucía has to meet him and give him the angel. And it can go back and forth like that. Meño is still doubtful, but Luc isn’t, and Meño says if she gets Charly out of bed and out of his funk, Meño will treat Lucía and her friends to a free dinner in the restaurant. He calls the house, and Greg tells him that Charly already got up, jumped out of bed, looked happy, and has already left. You see? says Lucía. Meño tells her that Charly doesn’t have just one angel, he has two.
We have a short scene in which Arturo is having lunch in a restaurant with Margarita. She’s surprised, because his lawyer said he has now agreed to give her half of his assets. Why the change? Well, first of all, he’s getting old, he wants to live in peace, and for her to live in peace. Also, Gregoria asked him to do it. Really? probes Margarita. Tell me, are you two lovers? Arturo tells her not to ask.
Charly is sitting on a park bench on a sunny day. As a couple walks by hand in hand, he hears a whisper from behind a telephone pole. It’s Lucía, angel in hand. Charly’s happy to see them. He tells Lucía he feels alone, and Lucía responds that although they’re no longer novios, he isn’t alone. She asks him to close his eyes. When he does, she takes off the sweater she was wearing over her t-shirt, turns away from him, and moves her long curly hair to the side. Okay, open your eyes! He does, and sees the back of her t-shirt says “Charly, I’m with you”. (Charly, Estoy Contigo). He’s happy and says it’s really pretty. Lucía assures him that she and the angel will always be there for him. They hug.
It’s nightime, and Candy and Santi are dining in a fine restaurant. She’s wearing a stunning blue sleeveless dress, and her hair is nicely styled, without her trademark hairband. He’s wearing a dark suit, white shirt and pink tie, looking very sharp. She tells how Pat had shown up at her door with his suitcase, she was caught in the middle, took him in mainly for Chava. But it didn’t work, and Pat left. And now, “I’m free”, she says in English (pretty strong Spanish accent). Santi says What a coincidence, “I’m free” (also in English, almost no Spanish accent). Candy thinks he’s free, but sad. Well, he’s doing a little better, his daughters are cheering him up. Candy adds some more of her patented advice. First she says don’t think. Then she says think positively, and before you know it, you’ll get back your baby boy! (Okay….) As they clasp hands, Santi is grateful, but really wishes they could be a couple.
Fafy Cuenca sighting! For those of you who didn’t see Querida Enemiga, there was a charming older rich guy, named Fafy Cuenca, who was world famous (except no one could really place where they heard of him!) Anyway, this same actor, but without the toupee, enters Meño’s restaurant with his wife. They’re regulars, and Meño offers them a tequila on the house. They’re arguing, though. The wife wants to give a party in the restaurant, and the guy (whose name is Ricardo in this show) doesn’t want anything to do with it.
Back to the romantic restaurant, where it’s time for a game of Dueling Guapos. Santi thinks Candy is afraid to admit it, but she digs him. She’s not admitting this, but he thinks as a scientific person, he’s just making a cool analysis. After all, how could anyone resist his dapper hotness. He’ll even prove it. He turns to two girls at a neighboring table, introduces himself, gives out his card, and it’s obvious the ladies are gushing over him. Not to be outdone, Candy rises, struts sexily over to two guys at another table, and just as she starts to turn on the charm, Santi get majorly jealous, jumps up, pulls Candy back to the table, she’s made her point. They toast to their combined sex appeal, as we viewers need a cold shower!
After the commercial (hopefully, we viewers have calmed down by now), we’re at the Institute, it’s the next morning, and a lot of young people are milling around. Bárbara calls Candy on the phone, why isn’t she there for Charly and Lucía’s class? Candy had a problem with Chava at school (Chava hit a kid). Okay, Bárbara says, we’ll videotape the class. The kids gather in a circle, and Charly, Lucía at his side, tells his story. He’s HIV positive. When asked how he got the disease, he tells the group they all know about beer, about tequila, right? Well, he was drunk, had sex and forgot to use a condom. The condom is the difference between life and death. Several of the couples look at each other to show they’ve learned the lesson. (I’m not so sure. These are teenagers. More on this later).
At the kiddie school, we learn (from the very pretty teacher) that Chava was telling everyone studying is a waste of time, and he got into a fight. With Beto. They’re both punished, and the teacher wants Candy to take Chava home. She walks Chava out. Chava says Beto lied, said Pat was going to live with Beto, because Candy kicked him out. Candy tells him not to fight, and that Pat isn’t going to live with Beto, he’s living in a hotel. Okay, says Chava, can I sleep over at the hotel? Candy says if he studies first, then he can sleep over with his Dad.
We next see them at Pat’s office, and Candy points out to Chava that his Dad has all this (expensive office furnishings, artworks) due to studying. Okay, Chava wants to be just like his Dad. Pat tells him that his Mom is the real hero, she works, takes care of him and keeps up her house. Okay, he wants to be like her, too. Chava asks Pat if he can sleep over, and Pat thinks it’s “super”, and let’s call Beto. Problem is, the boys are mad at each other.
The teen therapy session is still going, and amazingly, most of the kids are still awake. Lucía explains that safe sex is the responsibility of both partners, not just the guy. Sometimes people don’t tell you they’re having sex with someone else, too (as with Charly), and one girl says her boyfriend said if she wanted him to use a condom, she didn’t trust him or love him. At this point the male doctor whom we didn’t even notice adds that you should all enjoy yourselves, but with responsibility. And the condom is the difference between life and death. Lucía adds that if someone gets HIV, you should still treat them with affection. She then leans towards Charly as if to kiss him, but stops. Hmmm. They give out little pamphlets, and everything went well, but I think a few of the kids might have picked up on the doctor’s saying enjoy yourselves, and tuned the rest out. First of all, Charly doesn’t look unhealthy. And these kids are supposed to be about 15 or 16. Couldn’t someone say maybe your should wait to have sex? That you can go out, have fun, but not go all the way? Or maybe drinking beer and tequila is NOT a given at that age? Or, if they’re just sticking with the condom thing, I guess give some out, or tell where they can get them, or show them how to use it? Of course, our audience doesn’t want to see that part, so we’re left with the quick and easy message. Again.
We still have another pending lesson. Charly is now home, telling Candy how well it went, and Candy is happy, but reams him out for his comment to Chava about studying. What was he thinking? Charly says, well we all end up in the same place, the graveyard. Candy gives him one sentence about studying making you happier, you live a full life, and Charly instantly changes and learns this. Chava walks in, Charly tells him he lied. Studying is actually good. He’s going to return to school. They’ll go together, and they’ll both go to college. Problem solved. Super!
A little later, Pat arrives to pick up Chava for the sleepover, and Beto’s with him. Okay boys, make up and hug. Chava says no. (I guess we’ll have to wait another 2-3 minutes to instantly solve this one).
And just to make sure we don’t get too happy with all the joy, teaching, lessons and problem solving, we're suddenly in Ecuador, where Alicia is frantically calling for an ambulance on the phone! Mariloca is about to give birth! In the middle of her labor pains, she’s also screaming at Alicia to get her passport ready, they need to give the baby Alicia’s name, and Alicia is afraid, it’s not going to work, as the two of them scream together, and this cacophony of female angst brings our little tale to a conclusion. Until Monday, of course!
Monday: A baby, money, and a passport. Also a big box arrives in Santi’s office!
Santi has just read Mariloca’s evil email, saying she’s going to “get rid of the brat, and do you know what that means?”. Santi is desperate, and complains to his mother he has to do something, but Mari is crazy. We jump to the hotel in Ecuador, where Alicia is now resting on the couch, having set up the laptop for Mari, and Mari’s happy, because she’s connected in chat with Santi! On hearing this, Alicia pops up to see, and here’s (sort of) what they say:
M: Dear Santiago..
S: Don’t think I won’t fight. I’m going to search for you and find you.
M: You’re in no position to threaten me.
S: If you return with the baby, I’ll forget everything and won’t denounce you, but if you don’t…I won’t give up searching, even if it takes my whole life. And I swear, if you call my son a brat again…
(At this point, Alicia takes over, saying Mari types too slowly, and types
M: Oh, I’m really ashamed (she actually types me das lastima, or you give me pity, or shame, but I think she meant it sarcastically)
Alicia slams the computer shut, saying she doesn’t want to be discovered.
OK, is it just me, or is this chat not really that earthshaking? I think the music and sound effects make us think everything is super important.
Santi’s phone rings, and it’s Candy. He tells her he was chatting with Mari on the computer. Candy the Wise says “Great, at least you’re communicating. Maybe she’ll come back.” (Hah!) Santi’s not quite as optimistic.
Chava comes home from school with lots of homework. Charly (who doesn’t attend school these days) tells him studying is a waste of time (estudiar no sirve para nada). You just end up working anyway, why study? Chava considers this pearl of wisdom.
Candy is walking Rocío home from school. She teaches Rocío how to give sad people smiles. You smile yourself, grab the smile with your hand, and throw it onto the sadsacks. Simple! They’re going to do this to Santi, and Candy has another idea, too, for which she needs Rocío’s help, and they rush off to plan.
We finally get to find out who Aracely is. She’s Ceci’s sister! Soledad had thought she was Ceci’s gay lover. Soledad gets a sheepish look on her face. Ba-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-a-d Sole!
Chava, having learned his lesson from Charly, tells Candy he’s not going to school anymore, since studying “don’t make him more smarter” (he didn’t really say that, I’m just in a mood today). Candy points out that Pat studied and is a professional, Santi studied and is a doctor, and she studied and is a journalist (oh THAT’s what she is). Chava’s not convinced and runs to his room saying Candy is mala.
Ed carries two young boys out of his office, saying he’ll teach them everything. Chayo, in headscarf and apron, brings 6 other boys to greet their “Daddy”, and recites their names, beginning with Lalito. She now wants to start having some girls, beginning with Chayito. Oh, it’s a dream. Ed wakes up to a watching Hortensia, who asks how Santi’s doing. Not well. The phone rings, and Candy has called to ask when Santi will be finished with patients today.
With the “lessons learned” music playing in the background, Ceci says bye to her sis (who hadn’t known she was gay, but is fine with it), asking her to help with the parents. Aracely wants to know if Ceci wants her parents to forgive her. Of course not, would someone want to be forgiven for being blond (güera), for being light-skinned (blanca), or for the nose I have? (looking at her nose, I’m not so sure about the last one). Being gay is just part of her. Okay, Ara will see what she can do with the parents. After she leaves, Soledad is contrite, but Ceci is gracious, and the two gals are pals again, ready for a little coffee and gossip.
No one’s home at Candy’s except Gregoria and Arturo, sittin’ on the sofa. She’s conflicted. She wants him, she wants him not, she wants him, and so on. Her daughter Candy says when you have true love, you know it for sure. Why can’t this be easier? Arturo offers to flip a coin to help her. He does, it comes out sunny side up (el sol), he won, but Greg just tells him to drink his coffee.
A smiling Candy asks Horti if Santi’s alone in his office. He sure is. Perfecto! Santi looks up from his desk to the sound of the Shark in the Bay song, being sung by a band of mariachis! Enter Zamora, Toño and the other guys from the restaurant, Horti’s dancing, and we even have two new members, dressed head to toe in beautiful mariachi outfits, black with white piping and big red mariachi ties, it’s Candy and Rocío! So this is the secret plan Candy was explaining to Rocío earlier. The music stops (with some non-existent trumpets), and Rocío proceeds to show Santi the magic smile transfer trick she learned from Candy. She smiles, grabs the smile, tosses it to Candy, then teaches Santi, throwing him a big smile, which he shares with the band. Mission accomplished, the band leaves (more non-existent trumpets), Horti takes Rocío to get a milkshake or treat, leaving Candy with Santi. At first she’s a little sad, thinking of Paulina, but Santi assures her he has nothing to do (nada que ver) with Pau, and gives her a magic smile. Candy then adds that the music was not all she has planned to cheer him up. She shyly invites him out to dinner! (Yes!) Of course, it’s a dinner of amigos, nothing more, but they both look quite happy as they shake on it.
In Lucía’s room, we see a large floppy green stuffed doll with wings. Donato asks Lucía what it is, and it’s a mysterious angel (angel misterioso). When she and Charly were novios, they invented it to take care of bad things in life. It’s mysterious, because love is like that, you never know when it’ll arrive. She stuffs it in her large blue purse and she’s off.
She arrives in the restaurant, where Meño begs her to help with Charly, who’s very depressed, and won’t get out of bed. She tells him not to worry, Charly’s going to get out of bed on his own, and they’re going to give a talk at the Institute. Meño is pessimistic. But Lucía shows him the angel misterioso, and explains that she and Charly have a pact that if Charly wants to see the angel, Lucía has to meet him and give him the angel. And it can go back and forth like that. Meño is still doubtful, but Luc isn’t, and Meño says if she gets Charly out of bed and out of his funk, Meño will treat Lucía and her friends to a free dinner in the restaurant. He calls the house, and Greg tells him that Charly already got up, jumped out of bed, looked happy, and has already left. You see? says Lucía. Meño tells her that Charly doesn’t have just one angel, he has two.
We have a short scene in which Arturo is having lunch in a restaurant with Margarita. She’s surprised, because his lawyer said he has now agreed to give her half of his assets. Why the change? Well, first of all, he’s getting old, he wants to live in peace, and for her to live in peace. Also, Gregoria asked him to do it. Really? probes Margarita. Tell me, are you two lovers? Arturo tells her not to ask.
Charly is sitting on a park bench on a sunny day. As a couple walks by hand in hand, he hears a whisper from behind a telephone pole. It’s Lucía, angel in hand. Charly’s happy to see them. He tells Lucía he feels alone, and Lucía responds that although they’re no longer novios, he isn’t alone. She asks him to close his eyes. When he does, she takes off the sweater she was wearing over her t-shirt, turns away from him, and moves her long curly hair to the side. Okay, open your eyes! He does, and sees the back of her t-shirt says “Charly, I’m with you”. (Charly, Estoy Contigo). He’s happy and says it’s really pretty. Lucía assures him that she and the angel will always be there for him. They hug.
It’s nightime, and Candy and Santi are dining in a fine restaurant. She’s wearing a stunning blue sleeveless dress, and her hair is nicely styled, without her trademark hairband. He’s wearing a dark suit, white shirt and pink tie, looking very sharp. She tells how Pat had shown up at her door with his suitcase, she was caught in the middle, took him in mainly for Chava. But it didn’t work, and Pat left. And now, “I’m free”, she says in English (pretty strong Spanish accent). Santi says What a coincidence, “I’m free” (also in English, almost no Spanish accent). Candy thinks he’s free, but sad. Well, he’s doing a little better, his daughters are cheering him up. Candy adds some more of her patented advice. First she says don’t think. Then she says think positively, and before you know it, you’ll get back your baby boy! (Okay….) As they clasp hands, Santi is grateful, but really wishes they could be a couple.
Fafy Cuenca sighting! For those of you who didn’t see Querida Enemiga, there was a charming older rich guy, named Fafy Cuenca, who was world famous (except no one could really place where they heard of him!) Anyway, this same actor, but without the toupee, enters Meño’s restaurant with his wife. They’re regulars, and Meño offers them a tequila on the house. They’re arguing, though. The wife wants to give a party in the restaurant, and the guy (whose name is Ricardo in this show) doesn’t want anything to do with it.
Back to the romantic restaurant, where it’s time for a game of Dueling Guapos. Santi thinks Candy is afraid to admit it, but she digs him. She’s not admitting this, but he thinks as a scientific person, he’s just making a cool analysis. After all, how could anyone resist his dapper hotness. He’ll even prove it. He turns to two girls at a neighboring table, introduces himself, gives out his card, and it’s obvious the ladies are gushing over him. Not to be outdone, Candy rises, struts sexily over to two guys at another table, and just as she starts to turn on the charm, Santi get majorly jealous, jumps up, pulls Candy back to the table, she’s made her point. They toast to their combined sex appeal, as we viewers need a cold shower!
After the commercial (hopefully, we viewers have calmed down by now), we’re at the Institute, it’s the next morning, and a lot of young people are milling around. Bárbara calls Candy on the phone, why isn’t she there for Charly and Lucía’s class? Candy had a problem with Chava at school (Chava hit a kid). Okay, Bárbara says, we’ll videotape the class. The kids gather in a circle, and Charly, Lucía at his side, tells his story. He’s HIV positive. When asked how he got the disease, he tells the group they all know about beer, about tequila, right? Well, he was drunk, had sex and forgot to use a condom. The condom is the difference between life and death. Several of the couples look at each other to show they’ve learned the lesson. (I’m not so sure. These are teenagers. More on this later).
At the kiddie school, we learn (from the very pretty teacher) that Chava was telling everyone studying is a waste of time, and he got into a fight. With Beto. They’re both punished, and the teacher wants Candy to take Chava home. She walks Chava out. Chava says Beto lied, said Pat was going to live with Beto, because Candy kicked him out. Candy tells him not to fight, and that Pat isn’t going to live with Beto, he’s living in a hotel. Okay, says Chava, can I sleep over at the hotel? Candy says if he studies first, then he can sleep over with his Dad.
We next see them at Pat’s office, and Candy points out to Chava that his Dad has all this (expensive office furnishings, artworks) due to studying. Okay, Chava wants to be just like his Dad. Pat tells him that his Mom is the real hero, she works, takes care of him and keeps up her house. Okay, he wants to be like her, too. Chava asks Pat if he can sleep over, and Pat thinks it’s “super”, and let’s call Beto. Problem is, the boys are mad at each other.
The teen therapy session is still going, and amazingly, most of the kids are still awake. Lucía explains that safe sex is the responsibility of both partners, not just the guy. Sometimes people don’t tell you they’re having sex with someone else, too (as with Charly), and one girl says her boyfriend said if she wanted him to use a condom, she didn’t trust him or love him. At this point the male doctor whom we didn’t even notice adds that you should all enjoy yourselves, but with responsibility. And the condom is the difference between life and death. Lucía adds that if someone gets HIV, you should still treat them with affection. She then leans towards Charly as if to kiss him, but stops. Hmmm. They give out little pamphlets, and everything went well, but I think a few of the kids might have picked up on the doctor’s saying enjoy yourselves, and tuned the rest out. First of all, Charly doesn’t look unhealthy. And these kids are supposed to be about 15 or 16. Couldn’t someone say maybe your should wait to have sex? That you can go out, have fun, but not go all the way? Or maybe drinking beer and tequila is NOT a given at that age? Or, if they’re just sticking with the condom thing, I guess give some out, or tell where they can get them, or show them how to use it? Of course, our audience doesn’t want to see that part, so we’re left with the quick and easy message. Again.
We still have another pending lesson. Charly is now home, telling Candy how well it went, and Candy is happy, but reams him out for his comment to Chava about studying. What was he thinking? Charly says, well we all end up in the same place, the graveyard. Candy gives him one sentence about studying making you happier, you live a full life, and Charly instantly changes and learns this. Chava walks in, Charly tells him he lied. Studying is actually good. He’s going to return to school. They’ll go together, and they’ll both go to college. Problem solved. Super!
A little later, Pat arrives to pick up Chava for the sleepover, and Beto’s with him. Okay boys, make up and hug. Chava says no. (I guess we’ll have to wait another 2-3 minutes to instantly solve this one).
And just to make sure we don’t get too happy with all the joy, teaching, lessons and problem solving, we're suddenly in Ecuador, where Alicia is frantically calling for an ambulance on the phone! Mariloca is about to give birth! In the middle of her labor pains, she’s also screaming at Alicia to get her passport ready, they need to give the baby Alicia’s name, and Alicia is afraid, it’s not going to work, as the two of them scream together, and this cacophony of female angst brings our little tale to a conclusion. Until Monday, of course!
Monday: A baby, money, and a passport. Also a big box arrives in Santi’s office!
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Great recap, as always, Hombre. I have not been able to watch the show for weeks, so love the recaps. Does anyone know what # episode this is so I can catch a little of the show on Youtube? Thanks and have a nice weekend.
Hombre, a big thumbs up from me for this recap. Witty and wise. Thanks. After the show I was aching to criticize tha Dr. at Lucia"s and Charly's presentation. You dis ir better than I could have without sounding like a scold. Well done. I was expecting Marisa"s baby to at least have horns and a tail but what a cutie. Carlos
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: Saturday, April 18, 2009 at 1:25:00 PM EDT
Fun recap, Hombre. You are right, laying into them for the miraculous band-aides.
I liked your Chava pseudo-quote, school “don’t make him more smarter.” Candy the wise showed Chava everything his dad gained by hard work and study. She forgot to mention that Pat's dad gave him the export business.
I'm not sure Tontas gets this deep, BUT.. Candy chose El Tiburon for the serenade. Same song Santi used for deuling serenades against Pat. Santi lost that one, and he gave up on Candy and finalized plans to marry Marissa. So maybe her choice of song means he's about to turn around his defeat.
Candy also revealed her jealousy about Paulina coming back. Novela Rule #42: Jealousy is a sure sign of love.
Violet, this was cap #92 by Mexican numbering. YouTube clip.
I liked your Chava pseudo-quote, school “don’t make him more smarter.” Candy the wise showed Chava everything his dad gained by hard work and study. She forgot to mention that Pat's dad gave him the export business.
I'm not sure Tontas gets this deep, BUT.. Candy chose El Tiburon for the serenade. Same song Santi used for deuling serenades against Pat. Santi lost that one, and he gave up on Candy and finalized plans to marry Marissa. So maybe her choice of song means he's about to turn around his defeat.
Candy also revealed her jealousy about Paulina coming back. Novela Rule #42: Jealousy is a sure sign of love.
Violet, this was cap #92 by Mexican numbering. YouTube clip.
Hombre, Wonderful recap that captures the details and the PSA boring, flat portrayals all too well. I wonder if this was shown at an earlier time in Mexico too, it seems riddled with social messages meant for a youthful audience I assume.
Fafy has been making the rounds since QEnimiga. He just put in a cameo role in Cuidado con el Angel too as another rich guy who has a close encounter with Estefania when she is in Acapulco but he does a quick disappearing act when she is arrested , fortunately before he had to pay for an expensive dinner. HA.
I just can't stand Marissa in this part. She is the worst sleezy pregnant woman imaginable. It isn't even funny when she is so nasty and threatening to everyone about the baby's well being. Iccckkky!
Fafy has been making the rounds since QEnimiga. He just put in a cameo role in Cuidado con el Angel too as another rich guy who has a close encounter with Estefania when she is in Acapulco but he does a quick disappearing act when she is arrested , fortunately before he had to pay for an expensive dinner. HA.
I just can't stand Marissa in this part. She is the worst sleezy pregnant woman imaginable. It isn't even funny when she is so nasty and threatening to everyone about the baby's well being. Iccckkky!
Hi Hombre...yes, those "instant learnings" and "instant changing"...how simple, and how untrue! Gets annoying after a while, almost as much as Candy's sunny-side-up bromides.
During all the discussion of condoms, it sure took a while for someone to note that they also protect against pregnancy. What are these young teens thinking? Jeez. And yeah, the doc saying go ahead and enjoy yourselves. Almost as good as Meño encouraging Gregoria to jump in the sack with Arturo.
Always enjoy your musician take on things. Didn't even realize about the "non-existant trumpets" but you caught it. Thanks HOmbre.
During all the discussion of condoms, it sure took a while for someone to note that they also protect against pregnancy. What are these young teens thinking? Jeez. And yeah, the doc saying go ahead and enjoy yourselves. Almost as good as Meño encouraging Gregoria to jump in the sack with Arturo.
Always enjoy your musician take on things. Didn't even realize about the "non-existant trumpets" but you caught it. Thanks HOmbre.
Gee, I thought that I was one of Fafy Cuenca"s biggest fans anI didn"t even recognize him without his rug. This character is not as full of life as Fafy. Maybe he has a healthier heart. Someone definitrly needs to light a fire under Charly. What a sterling role model for Chava. Carlos
Permalink posted by : Saturday, April 18, 2009 at 3:54:00 PM EDT
: Saturday, April 18, 2009 at 3:54:00 PM EDT
Thanks for the recap Hombre (and for the past few weeks as well as I have been reading these late). The title seems really appropriate for the episode too.
Your take on lessons learned too quickly was fun. As a teacher, I get really concerned when students act as if learning ANYTHING in entertainment is something horrible and evil. Tontas loves teaching but Candy's bromides (as Judy so nicely put it and thanks for your recap too) and the pat resolutions can be annoying. Again thanks for your humor.
ITA with you Cheryl (and thanks for the recap of MEP, yeah I got behind this week) about Marissa. I know my dislike of the actress shows she's doing a good job, but this story line of getting "rid of the brat" is too disturbing for me.
Your take on lessons learned too quickly was fun. As a teacher, I get really concerned when students act as if learning ANYTHING in entertainment is something horrible and evil. Tontas loves teaching but Candy's bromides (as Judy so nicely put it and thanks for your recap too) and the pat resolutions can be annoying. Again thanks for your humor.
ITA with you Cheryl (and thanks for the recap of MEP, yeah I got behind this week) about Marissa. I know my dislike of the actress shows she's doing a good job, but this story line of getting "rid of the brat" is too disturbing for me.
Speaking of star sightings, did anyone recognize the guy at the table in the background, when Art and Gregoria were dining? He looked really familiar. A LOT like Rene Strickler (Leopoldo in Cuidado), or maybe Guy Ecker. I can't imagine a big name doing a bit part, but when I wear my beanie I can believe anything.
Paula, I could have sworn that one of Lalo's fantasy nurses but couldn't be sure. My wife happened to be watching so I didn't rewind to check.(Not out of fear, mind you.) Carlos
Permalink posted by : Saturday, April 18, 2009 at 5:35:00 PM EDT
: Saturday, April 18, 2009 at 5:35:00 PM EDT
Thanks for the recap Hombre. One lesson learned is that recaps are always fun! :-)
Did Mariloca and Alicia check out the hospitals at potential places to head to?
Santi and Candy moving closer, but plenty of time to split them apart again... and back together... apart..
Anyway... Pato taking it like a man, stiff upper lip and all. Is he moving in with Dad?
Good job by Greg to get Art to split up his money. Whatever happened with the bad building he put up? Are they ever coming back to bite him?
Nothing last night on the Paulina stalker? Agree with everyone, hopefully he'll just do something to her and not with Rocio.
Yep, I suppose 2 minutes into the next episode and Chava and Beto will be back together. Candy has to have to most excellent words of wisdom to get them back together.
Oh, Hombre, thanks for Fafy. I was trying to think about who he was and where. That was one of the wheres. I do believe he is in a lot of shows.
And glad to see the "pretty teacher" is cured. She was the poor woman that had the cancer in FELS that they didn't tell and just watched die. Or, perhaps she was here and got the cancer and then went home to FELS? Bad choice if she did that.
JeffMN
Did Mariloca and Alicia check out the hospitals at potential places to head to?
Santi and Candy moving closer, but plenty of time to split them apart again... and back together... apart..
Anyway... Pato taking it like a man, stiff upper lip and all. Is he moving in with Dad?
Good job by Greg to get Art to split up his money. Whatever happened with the bad building he put up? Are they ever coming back to bite him?
Nothing last night on the Paulina stalker? Agree with everyone, hopefully he'll just do something to her and not with Rocio.
Yep, I suppose 2 minutes into the next episode and Chava and Beto will be back together. Candy has to have to most excellent words of wisdom to get them back together.
Oh, Hombre, thanks for Fafy. I was trying to think about who he was and where. That was one of the wheres. I do believe he is in a lot of shows.
And glad to see the "pretty teacher" is cured. She was the poor woman that had the cancer in FELS that they didn't tell and just watched die. Or, perhaps she was here and got the cancer and then went home to FELS? Bad choice if she did that.
JeffMN
Permalink posted by : Saturday, April 18, 2009 at 6:06:00 PM EDT
: Saturday, April 18, 2009 at 6:06:00 PM EDT
Thanks Paula. I"m struggling to use my cell phone to do this. I"ve no idea what happened to part of it. I could have sworn that one of Lalo"s fantasy nurses was ou Gardena from MEPS. Carlos
Permalink posted by : Saturday, April 18, 2009 at 6:22:00 PM EDT
: Saturday, April 18, 2009 at 6:22:00 PM EDT
Carlos: I think you are right. I thought that as well. And well it could be. Gardenia was one of Lalo women, so she could have been one of them. I thought I saw her.
JeffMN
JeffMN
Permalink posted by : Saturday, April 18, 2009 at 7:02:00 PM EDT
: Saturday, April 18, 2009 at 7:02:00 PM EDT
Thanks Jeff. I noticed the ...er...ah hair as I"m sure you did. Carlos
Permalink posted by : Saturday, April 18, 2009 at 8:21:00 PM EDT
: Saturday, April 18, 2009 at 8:21:00 PM EDT
Indeed Carlos, that nice ..er.. curly hair.
On other notes, my wife called it. That was Ceci's sister. So much for being Solier than thou. Of course, if someone other than a sister shows up, deals off again. Solier will probably reappear.
JeffMN
On other notes, my wife called it. That was Ceci's sister. So much for being Solier than thou. Of course, if someone other than a sister shows up, deals off again. Solier will probably reappear.
JeffMN
Permalink posted by : Saturday, April 18, 2009 at 8:56:00 PM EDT
: Saturday, April 18, 2009 at 8:56:00 PM EDT
Thank you Hombre! I can't believe it's past midnight Saturday and I'm just now getting around to checking the recap! It's been a crazy day.
Gee, it would have been nice if at least they would have told the kids that it's best to wait but if you don't, here's what you do to protect yourself.
I would have thought Mariloca would have the hospital all booked. Is the baby coming early?
Carrie L.
Gee, it would have been nice if at least they would have told the kids that it's best to wait but if you don't, here's what you do to protect yourself.
I would have thought Mariloca would have the hospital all booked. Is the baby coming early?
Carrie L.
Permalink posted by : Sunday, April 19, 2009 at 12:21:00 AM EDT
: Sunday, April 19, 2009 at 12:21:00 AM EDT
Okay Jeff and Carlos...you are absolutely busted (no pun intended) because in Tontas, "Gardenia's" hair is ironed straight. As it was in Fea. Only in MEPS are they letting it be its actually curly, abundant self.
And I'll cut you some slack. She does have an amazing body, enhanced or otherwise, as does the actress who plays Priss in MEPS. When they're around, you can't keep your eyes off them. You guys for obvious reasons and us women...well, always gotta keep an eye on the "competition"! LOL>
And I'll cut you some slack. She does have an amazing body, enhanced or otherwise, as does the actress who plays Priss in MEPS. When they're around, you can't keep your eyes off them. You guys for obvious reasons and us women...well, always gotta keep an eye on the "competition"! LOL>
Thanks for the recap, Hombre; I enjoyed it -- and the comments, too!
I love Juan Peláez, the actor in the cameo at Meño's restaurant.
He played an excellent, excellent starring villain in "Desencuentro," (1997) and again in the wonderful "Angela," (1998).
There is a screen cap of his "Angela" villain corrupting the innocent character played by Joana Benedek at the link at my name.
(Joana Benedek played Pamela Torreblanca in DA. She looked fresher and more beautiful in "Angela.")
I have two pages of screen caps from "Angela" where Juan Peláez has several good ones.
http://homepage.mac.com/wilmawildcat/PhotoAlbum24.html
http://homepage.mac.com/wilmawildcat/PhotoAlbum26.html
I love Juan Peláez, the actor in the cameo at Meño's restaurant.
He played an excellent, excellent starring villain in "Desencuentro," (1997) and again in the wonderful "Angela," (1998).
There is a screen cap of his "Angela" villain corrupting the innocent character played by Joana Benedek at the link at my name.
(Joana Benedek played Pamela Torreblanca in DA. She looked fresher and more beautiful in "Angela.")
I have two pages of screen caps from "Angela" where Juan Peláez has several good ones.
http://homepage.mac.com/wilmawildcat/PhotoAlbum24.html
http://homepage.mac.com/wilmawildcat/PhotoAlbum26.html
P.S. The actress who plays "Margarita" in Tontas (Rosángela Balbó) played the Joana Benedek character's mother.
She looks exactly the same now -- or even better -- than a decade ago.
Click.
She looks exactly the same now -- or even better -- than a decade ago.
Click.
Good morning Jeri. She also played a wife and mother of the guy who dumped Jacqueline Bracamontes to marry her sister in Heridas de Amor.
She looks tons better in this one...like she lost weight and had a face lift. Gotta love those plastic surgeons.
She looks tons better in this one...like she lost weight and had a face lift. Gotta love those plastic surgeons.
Fafy Cuenca Fafy Cuenca Fafy Cuenca!
Thanks Hombre, you're even funnier than usual when you're "in a mood". I think it's hilarious how lessons get learned in 30 seconds on this show.
I haven't seen this episode yet and won't get a chance until late tonight, but I can't wait to see the "who is sexier" scene with Santi and Candy.
Aha! So Arecely is Ceci's sister. Serves Soledad right for being such a self-righteous prig.
Anyway, fantastic recap Hombre. I'll check back in later when I have a bit more time and have hopefully seen the episode.
Judy, our nickname for Rosangela Balbo's character in Heridas was "Mophead" because of her horrendous hairdo. It looked like somebody stuck her head first in a blender.
Thanks Hombre, you're even funnier than usual when you're "in a mood". I think it's hilarious how lessons get learned in 30 seconds on this show.
I haven't seen this episode yet and won't get a chance until late tonight, but I can't wait to see the "who is sexier" scene with Santi and Candy.
Aha! So Arecely is Ceci's sister. Serves Soledad right for being such a self-righteous prig.
Anyway, fantastic recap Hombre. I'll check back in later when I have a bit more time and have hopefully seen the episode.
Judy, our nickname for Rosangela Balbo's character in Heridas was "Mophead" because of her horrendous hairdo. It looked like somebody stuck her head first in a blender.
"Mophead" was perfect...as was "Squeaky" for the little blonde sister. My first introduction to telenovelas and to Diana Bracho. She's still the tops IMO as a dramatic evil actress but Lucero is giving quite a performance in MEPS I must say.
Wow, more comments than usual! Thanks, everyone.
Paula, thanks for pointing out that Candy's choice of the shark song matched the one he tried for her a few weeks ago. Absolutely a turning point for her.
It's also fun to hear about all the previous parts some of the supporting actors have played. Thanks, Jeri, for the screencaps.
Carlos and Jeff, I also noticed one of the fantasy nurses the other night was the actress who plays Gardenia on MEPS. We have a lot of beautiful women on this show, but for sultriness, it's hard to beat Gardenia, Priscila and Martina on MEPS!
And Jeff, thanks for pointing out that the pretty teacher was the cancer patient on FELS. I think her name on that show was Juliana.
As for those who asked about Mari booking hospitals in advance, I don't think any of that was shown, so we'll have to use our imagination.
Judy, Heridas sounds like a pretty good novela (or maybe a wild one). The DVD on Amazon is pretty cheap ($12.49 for 4 discs!), so I think I'll check it out.
Paula, thanks for pointing out that Candy's choice of the shark song matched the one he tried for her a few weeks ago. Absolutely a turning point for her.
It's also fun to hear about all the previous parts some of the supporting actors have played. Thanks, Jeri, for the screencaps.
Carlos and Jeff, I also noticed one of the fantasy nurses the other night was the actress who plays Gardenia on MEPS. We have a lot of beautiful women on this show, but for sultriness, it's hard to beat Gardenia, Priscila and Martina on MEPS!
And Jeff, thanks for pointing out that the pretty teacher was the cancer patient on FELS. I think her name on that show was Juliana.
As for those who asked about Mari booking hospitals in advance, I don't think any of that was shown, so we'll have to use our imagination.
Judy, Heridas sounds like a pretty good novela (or maybe a wild one). The DVD on Amazon is pretty cheap ($12.49 for 4 discs!), so I think I'll check it out.
Hombre: I think I saw the teacher/Juliana in MEPS, too. I think she was a secretary/worker at GruposLactos talking with Flor one day. They haven't shown much at Grupos lately, so haven't been able to verify that. Thanks again for the great recap.
JeffMN
JeffMN
Permalink posted by : Sunday, April 19, 2009 at 8:17:00 PM EDT
: Sunday, April 19, 2009 at 8:17:00 PM EDT
OK, I finally got to watch Friday's episode. Hombre you were spot on about it being a miracle that the kids weren't falling asleep during their PSA class. I know the message is supposed to be a good one but my goodness what a bore.
I thought Rocio was adorable in her mariachi outfit. I wonder how much those things cost?
Alicia and Mariloca, even though their scene was short they made a great finale for the episode. "Cacophony of female angst"...that was your most awesome statement of the whole recap. Well done!
I thought Rocio was adorable in her mariachi outfit. I wonder how much those things cost?
Alicia and Mariloca, even though their scene was short they made a great finale for the episode. "Cacophony of female angst"...that was your most awesome statement of the whole recap. Well done!
Hombre, wonderful recap - thank you. Really enjoyed your take on Candy's profession: "she studied and is a journalist (oh THAT’s what she is)." and on our favorite Fafy: "Fafy Cuenca, who was world famous (except no one could really place where they heard of him!)" :)
Nice to see so many good comments.
Diana in MA
Nice to see so many good comments.
Diana in MA
Permalink posted by : Monday, April 20, 2009 at 7:12:00 AM EDT
: Monday, April 20, 2009 at 7:12:00 AM EDT
I recall the Fafy Cuenca character himself being fairly gentlemanly. It was the Popeil's Pocket Sycophant guy who was truly obnoxious.
Great recap, Hombre! Well done.
Great recap, Hombre! Well done.
Sylvia, Rocío looked adorable! And Candy always looks particularly good in her charro suit, too. The tailored look becomes her.
During FELS it was mentioned that the sombreros like the boyz wore that go with the charro outfits cost about $400 bucks apiece.
If the suits are handmade, they are probably expensive, too. Handmade Bavarian suits and trachts (for ladies) can get very high up there in price.
But knockoffs can be had a lot cheaper -- which is great, since likely they're just going to get beer and worse spilled on them at Oktoberfest.
Probably same goes with the charro suits and feast days, according to what I've heard of our city and the patron San Augustín festival in the days of yore.
I have one of those knockoff Bavarian trachts, although it hasn't fit in years and is packed away in case by some miracle I can wear it again. I always enjoyed it, and it has a strange effect on some men. Like the milk-maid fantasy or something.
My favorite mariachi group back home is Los Changuitos Feos de Tucson, a group for teens since 1964. I put in a link at my name for their website and photo.
Yesterday the paper mentioned the upcoming Tucson International Mariachi Conference, which is a huge deal and always gets sold out.
They will have coverage in the upcoming Caliente section this week, but here is a blurb about native Linda Ronstadt's participation in the conference's Espectacular Concert from the Sunday paper.
http://www.azstarnet.com/allheadlines/289176
The conference website:
http://www.tucsonmariachi.org/
During FELS it was mentioned that the sombreros like the boyz wore that go with the charro outfits cost about $400 bucks apiece.
If the suits are handmade, they are probably expensive, too. Handmade Bavarian suits and trachts (for ladies) can get very high up there in price.
But knockoffs can be had a lot cheaper -- which is great, since likely they're just going to get beer and worse spilled on them at Oktoberfest.
Probably same goes with the charro suits and feast days, according to what I've heard of our city and the patron San Augustín festival in the days of yore.
I have one of those knockoff Bavarian trachts, although it hasn't fit in years and is packed away in case by some miracle I can wear it again. I always enjoyed it, and it has a strange effect on some men. Like the milk-maid fantasy or something.
My favorite mariachi group back home is Los Changuitos Feos de Tucson, a group for teens since 1964. I put in a link at my name for their website and photo.
Yesterday the paper mentioned the upcoming Tucson International Mariachi Conference, which is a huge deal and always gets sold out.
They will have coverage in the upcoming Caliente section this week, but here is a blurb about native Linda Ronstadt's participation in the conference's Espectacular Concert from the Sunday paper.
http://www.azstarnet.com/allheadlines/289176
The conference website:
http://www.tucsonmariachi.org/
Wow, more great links from Jeri. Los Changuitos Feos...love the name but they are anything but ugly. I'm impressed that most of the group is female! When I commented how great the outfits can look I was specifically remembering the first (and only) time I saw Linda Ronstandt sing with mariachi backup. Interesting that she is featured in your annual festival. Thanks Jeri!
Sylvia, you are so lucky! I've never seen her, but "Canciones de Mi Padre" is one of my favorite albums.
Linda's is one of the founding families of Tucson. To see Federico Ronstadt's memoirs, click at my name.
Federico had a carriage-building and hardware business, but was a band leader on the side. Here's a picture of the Club Filarmonico; he's front center:
http://homepage.mac.com/wilmawildcat/.Pictures/nose/club-filarmonico.jpg
If you have Linda's canciones albums, you might remember that she gets relatives to sing on it. Her brothers were both city department heads; one police chief and another parks department. She also has her niece singing a duo with her, IIRC. They sound great together.
Linda's is one of the founding families of Tucson. To see Federico Ronstadt's memoirs, click at my name.
Federico had a carriage-building and hardware business, but was a band leader on the side. Here's a picture of the Club Filarmonico; he's front center:
http://homepage.mac.com/wilmawildcat/.Pictures/nose/club-filarmonico.jpg
If you have Linda's canciones albums, you might remember that she gets relatives to sing on it. Her brothers were both city department heads; one police chief and another parks department. She also has her niece singing a duo with her, IIRC. They sound great together.
Jeri, I had no idea about Linda Ronstadt's family! I did purchase her Canciones album when it first came out but that was a long time ago. I thought it was the best she'd ever sounded and it opened my eyes and ears to that type of music. I saw her years ago in my area; I believe she is or used to be very involved the San Jose Mariachi festival. I might have to pick up Canciones in DVD form.
Thanks for the picture link, what a great picture.
Thanks for the picture link, what a great picture.
Sylvia, Linda lives up by you most of the time. So you have a better chance of seeing her than the homies.
She comes home now and then; she made a duet album with Emmy Lou Harris some years ago in Tucson, called "Western Wall -- the Tucson Sessions," in a studio set up at IIRC the historic Arizona Inn.
The music is unusual; the Amazon blurb describes it well (click).
She comes home now and then; she made a duet album with Emmy Lou Harris some years ago in Tucson, called "Western Wall -- the Tucson Sessions," in a studio set up at IIRC the historic Arizona Inn.
The music is unusual; the Amazon blurb describes it well (click).
Hey Jeri and Sylvia ....interesting discussion. I have my own little milkmaid outfit from when I lived in Austria. I think I can just about fit into it again but alas, I never filled out the top like my more bosomy amigas. I kept thinking I just needed to get another blouse but nooooo....that was not the problem. And I'm not about to go to a plastic surgeon!...not even our charming doctor plastico.
Judy, you can still go to see the good Dr. Plastico. Nobody says you have to have anything done. :)
JeffMN
JeffMN
Permalink posted by : Monday, April 20, 2009 at 11:26:00 AM EDT
: Monday, April 20, 2009 at 11:26:00 AM EDT
Judy, that kind of outfit has so many ruffles, it seems like it would be conducive to "temporary enhancement." (jiji)Better disguised than, say, a swim suit or little black dress.
Judy B, I had quite a romantic evening at a costume party with a relative stranger I met due to my dirndl one time, back in the days of yore.
I think his family had been military, and he'd had rosy visions of milk maids since they were stationed in Germany as a kid. He said it also didn't hurt that I'd just had my hair cut the right way (a blunt page).
On the musical side, it is really astounding how German some Mexican music is.
I'm sure some folks have heard how much northern Mexican music was influenced by German immigrants along the borders in Texas and the southwest.
Federico Ronstadt's mother was Mexican, and his dad was German.
Just think of those tubas going oompah in Mexico and polka bands.
Once while a friend visiting Tucson from Germany and I were out in the car, I turned on the radio to one of the norteño stations. The look on her face was hilarious as she exclaimed -- that's German music!
Just as an aside, it's been said that norteño is best heard on tinny AM stations, as it was intended.
I think his family had been military, and he'd had rosy visions of milk maids since they were stationed in Germany as a kid. He said it also didn't hurt that I'd just had my hair cut the right way (a blunt page).
On the musical side, it is really astounding how German some Mexican music is.
I'm sure some folks have heard how much northern Mexican music was influenced by German immigrants along the borders in Texas and the southwest.
Federico Ronstadt's mother was Mexican, and his dad was German.
Just think of those tubas going oompah in Mexico and polka bands.
Once while a friend visiting Tucson from Germany and I were out in the car, I turned on the radio to one of the norteño stations. The look on her face was hilarious as she exclaimed -- that's German music!
Just as an aside, it's been said that norteño is best heard on tinny AM stations, as it was intended.
Permalink posted by : Monday, April 20, 2009 at 12:33:00 PM EDT
: Monday, April 20, 2009 at 12:33:00 PM EDT
Yes, mariachi is polka.
On the subject of music, what are main Mexican regional music styles? Who would be a representative singer/group from each, so I can hear a clip on Amazon or YouTube? I'll tell what I know, but I am SURE some of my info is wrong, so please correct. I am limiting this to Mexican traditional, so not Carribean etc., and not modern stuff like Cumbia and Salsa.
1. Mariachi. Trumpets prominent. Typical band?
2. Banda. Tubas prominent. Sounds like a cacophony to me. Check Banda el Recodo.
3. Duranguense. Accordian prominent. Typical band?
Is Duranguense the same as Norteño? And the bands that have "del Norte" in their name - are they Duranguense or Banda?
4. Ranchera. Solo singer. Lovely music. Vicente Fernandez.
5. Balados y Boleros. Solo singer. Style of "It's Impossible." Luis Miguel. Sounds less "Mexican" than Ranchera.
Again, corrections welcome. I KNOW I have errors.
On the subject of music, what are main Mexican regional music styles? Who would be a representative singer/group from each, so I can hear a clip on Amazon or YouTube? I'll tell what I know, but I am SURE some of my info is wrong, so please correct. I am limiting this to Mexican traditional, so not Carribean etc., and not modern stuff like Cumbia and Salsa.
1. Mariachi. Trumpets prominent. Typical band?
2. Banda. Tubas prominent. Sounds like a cacophony to me. Check Banda el Recodo.
3. Duranguense. Accordian prominent. Typical band?
Is Duranguense the same as Norteño? And the bands that have "del Norte" in their name - are they Duranguense or Banda?
4. Ranchera. Solo singer. Lovely music. Vicente Fernandez.
5. Balados y Boleros. Solo singer. Style of "It's Impossible." Luis Miguel. Sounds less "Mexican" than Ranchera.
Again, corrections welcome. I KNOW I have errors.
Seems like on the norteño stations at home, they play anything that qualifies as "country" music; so a lot of different styles, analogous to what C&W stations might deem appropriate.
I'm sorry, Paula H., I can't help with the categories and examples; you already look to know more than I do about it. My strategy usually was to just turn the knob and let it play. ;-)
I'm sorry, Paula H., I can't help with the categories and examples; you already look to know more than I do about it. My strategy usually was to just turn the knob and let it play. ;-)
Permalink posted by : Monday, April 20, 2009 at 1:52:00 PM EDT
: Monday, April 20, 2009 at 1:52:00 PM EDT
Well I haven't seen this episode yet, so I can comment on the comments for now.
I'm excited to see Fafy Cuenca's return....
You all are still talking abotu Lalo's nurses. What bugged me was that his wife wasn't in any of them. And, the Gardenia you all are talking about I think, (I don't know the MEPS names that well but I know the faces) remember was Lalo's amante that came to the institute unaware his wife worked there. Remember?
I know he called Chayo, but something wasn't right there for me that he fantasized over his former lover and his wife's friend, even though there was farce with Santi and all.
Sylvia, I put a late comment on your Thurs. cap.
I too love the street views sideline. Funny.
Actually, Heridas was a very painful novela and I think folks had a hard time warming up to it. It had it's moments, but overall..eh.
Judy I suggest reading through some of the recaps here on Caray and some of the comments and you'll get a sense of whether it's worth it to you to buy...
So they are in Ecuador, huh. Interesting choice.
I'm excited to see Fafy Cuenca's return....
You all are still talking abotu Lalo's nurses. What bugged me was that his wife wasn't in any of them. And, the Gardenia you all are talking about I think, (I don't know the MEPS names that well but I know the faces) remember was Lalo's amante that came to the institute unaware his wife worked there. Remember?
I know he called Chayo, but something wasn't right there for me that he fantasized over his former lover and his wife's friend, even though there was farce with Santi and all.
Sylvia, I put a late comment on your Thurs. cap.
I too love the street views sideline. Funny.
Actually, Heridas was a very painful novela and I think folks had a hard time warming up to it. It had it's moments, but overall..eh.
Judy I suggest reading through some of the recaps here on Caray and some of the comments and you'll get a sense of whether it's worth it to you to buy...
So they are in Ecuador, huh. Interesting choice.
Kris...I think it was Jeff, not me, who was thinking about buying Heridas. I guess some of the recappers didn't like it but I did.
And Paula, ruffles aside, you have to have something so packed it's surging out of the ruffles! My accoutrements stayed chastely in place. Just a slender little gal, what can I say. If I put on 10 or 15 pounds I've got leverage, but it also goes elsewhere no not so appealing (except to people who like enormous hips!)
And Paula, ruffles aside, you have to have something so packed it's surging out of the ruffles! My accoutrements stayed chastely in place. Just a slender little gal, what can I say. If I put on 10 or 15 pounds I've got leverage, but it also goes elsewhere no not so appealing (except to people who like enormous hips!)
I love Mariachi and Ranchera, although I'm certainly no expert. I'm also fond of the Mexican trio such as Los Tres Panchos(el Perico, my alltime favorite male villain was a fan). There are a number of regional forms similar to Mariachi but distinctive such as Son Huasteca. I'm much less fond of Banda or Conjunto, very popular among Tejanos here. HISD has a wonderful Mariachi program in the Houston schools. In any event I eally enjoy when such music iis fearured on our shows.
Carlos
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Paula, I could swear I saw a large gift box delivered to Santi in the preview for tonight. Carlos
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: Monday, April 20, 2009 at 5:53:00 PM EDT
You're right, Carlos. But we won't find out until tonight what the story is with the big box. The glimpse in the preview is the first we've seen of it. So tune it tonight, same bat time, same bat channel.
Oops, I see now, someone was talking to Judy, not about Judy, yes, Hombre has an interest in Heridas.
You might like it. I was iffy but like Guy Ecker so didn't watch all of it. Great house, some nice characters, but over all one of the way more unplausable story lines, so if that bugs you, well...
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You might like it. I was iffy but like Guy Ecker so didn't watch all of it. Great house, some nice characters, but over all one of the way more unplausable story lines, so if that bugs you, well...
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