Saturday, May 02, 2009
MEPS, 05/01/09: Mazes, Mouse Traps, and Fish Tales A-Plenty
Capítulo 54
At Looney-Land Dr. Dement-Oh! Matamentes Obregon has just been informed by Bitch-Barbie that Lili is going to be transferred to a clinic outside the country, the suck-up’s little sinecure is about to end and, BTW, not to expect a job reference to go along with that resumé he’s polishing. (Ever notice the way “sinecure” neatly breaks down nearly phonetically in English into “sin” and “cure”?) Dr. Oh! leaves his office to supposedly get Liliana’s files for She Who Barks Orders While Rolling. On his way back he tells Martina, looking honest-to-gawd like Fred Munster’s kid sister dressed in those platform boots and white mini-form, that the Elizaldes have decided to send LIli abroad for treatment and that Eduardo needs to be told ASAP.
Margarita and Fernanda are still gabbing in Margo’s living room. Margo feeds Fer a line about Silvestre--currently playing bumper-cars with the walls-- being beaten up by would-be robbers and left on the street where Fr/Eduardo eventually found him. She says since Fr/Ed didn’t know where to take him he brought the old guy to them for help. Once Fer is gone, Silvestre insists on having Margo take him back to his place or otherwise, he threatens, he’ll go alone.
Back at the clinic now, Matamentes returns to his office with Lili’s file. Barbie won’t give him any pertinent details about which hospital Lili’s being transferred to or the doctor who’ll be treating her. Besides, Barbie barks at him, Lili’s only going to be there the amount of time it takes for her to process the forms at the Swedish Embassy, maybe a few days in all.
At Las Animas, Eddie explains to Cinto that he wanted Cadmilo to find the e-mail he left for him. The idea was that if Cad thinks that he came there looking to find a rich wife he’ll lose interest in nosing around in his house and finding out the truth about him. Martina’s call interrupts their discussion and she tells Ed about Lili being sent out of the country to a different clinic.
Across the way at Hacienda Elizalde, Damian gives Fer a song and dance in between smooches about their having to go in to the office in separate cars that morning so he can drive over to say good-bye to Mama before they leave on their honeymoon. Fer goes upstairs to have Tomasa pack her bags. Dam thinks to himself what a shame that she will have her bags packed, excited as any small town bride. But then, there will be that irresistible boatload of dough and well, “Who can resist $3 million dollars?”
Over at Las Animas again, Cinto and Eddie discuss the new problem of Lili’s being taken out of the country for treatment. If Lili leaves, Ed says, he will never be able to fulfill his mother’s last wish. It’s not likely Barbie will leave any clue about where Lili’s been sent, either, and Ed’s not about to let Barbara Greco get her own way; so Ed has got to find a way to keep Lili there. It’s the only means of discovering what that secret is she’s keeping and thus delivering them “from the evil shadow that’s been weighing over them all these years.” He is pretty certain, he says, that Lili’s trip definitely doesn’t come with a round-trip ticket.
Once Barbie’s gone, Matamentes takes a sip of his liquid courage before using it to torch any and all files pertaining to Lili’s “treatment.” He says to himself, “Fine, Barbie. If that’s the way you want it,” but first he’s going make sure his hands are clean. He decides a little CYA is in order. He wants nothing left to show that when Lili arrived there fifteen years earlier she was (Gasp!!!!) mentally sound. (Hubby asks wouldn’t a shredder being easier. I remind him to adjust his beanie down to “Minimally Inquisitive,” because if there isn’t a sprinkler system in the ceiling putting out that fire in the wastebasket, then there ain’t gonna be any shredder for Dement-oh! to use, either.) As Matamentes gives sway to his pyromaniacal tendencies, he smiles crazily off into space. The flames destroy any trace of Lili’s “treatment.”
Meanwhile, the doctor’s phone continues to ring off the hook. It’s Eduardo on the other end of the line, but Dr. Oh! either doesn’t realize it or he is just ignoring it. (I vote for option #1.) Ed hangs up in frustration. Cinto suggests Ed should just run over to the clinic and talk to Obregon personally, but Ed says that’s a waste of time because if Barbara Greco and the Elizaldes have decided to transfer Lili, then there’s nothing the doctor can do about it. Jacinto says, well if the doc is powerless to do anything to stop it, then Eduardo sure can’t. Ed stops to think for a second or two and says only one person can stop Lili from being sent away and that is (pregnant pause) La Hiena!!!
Now Ed calls up Barbie who is delighted to hear from him so unexpectedly soon. She asks if there’s any news about the money. He says it was as he suspected, the transaction is subject to certain conditions. She reminds him they haven’t got much time. Ed says that why they have to hurry so they can comply with Powhere Meelk’s demands. He’s got to have the exact numbers for the social welfare project of Nanda’s, he lies, stalling for time. He needs to meet with her personally ASAP, and not to worry; he won’t tell a soul about their little meeting the night before. Barbie says sure thing and hangs up, pissed that there’s still a hitch.
Babs heads for the board room and tells Gonzo along the way about Fer needing to meet immediately with Fr/Eduardo to clarify a few things more over the community center project in order to get their advance money. Gonzo is upset that this will cause another delay of Fernanda’s honeymoon. Babs smiles back at him and assures him sweetly that there shouldn’t be any more snags after this, but Bitch-Barbie thinks to herself as they walk into the board room that that’s nothing compared to what she has planned for his adored little daughter!
Back in Villa Madera, Margo leaves Silvestre back at his little house and tells him if he needs anything at all to get hold of her through a neighbor. He asks her to have Franco come visit him so he can thank him personally for everything he’s done for him.
At the asylum again, Martina and LIli go for their walk. Martina begs Lili, now that she’s going to be sent off to a clinic out of the country, to tell her what happened back at the hacienda when she left her all alone with Babs the other day. Unfortunately, Lili doesn’t seem able to do more than hyperventilate. (Big whoop.) FF>>
In the city Vlad waits outside a department store for Prissy to show up. (Ok. Ok. I admit it’s a little freaky that the guy should know exactly when and where to find her.) He talks her into having a cup of coffee with him in exchange for some interesting news he has for her. Vlad promises never to bother her again if she isn’t interested in what he tells her. Fine. She’s game.
In the board room, bored Dam nearly chokes on his coffee when he hears that the advance money Franco is supposedly giving the company is exactly $3 million. Babs congratulates Any Balls on having the foresight to initiate the negotiation with Powhere Meelk. Gonzo tells Nanda that the only remaining requirement before they get the money is for her to go over to Las Animas to finalize figures on her welfare project. AB stresses that it has to be before she leaves on her honeymoon. Nanda is not a happy camper because she’s got everything planned to leave that afternoon. Dam pretends to object and asks if AB never took a honeymoon. AB says yeah, but when he went on his the company wasn’t facing bankruptcy, so stuff it.
Ed and Jacinto are still in Ed’s office at Las Animas waiting for Fer to show up for the meeting. Rene Manzanares walks in behind Denia and he waves some sort of “official looking” police badge in Ed’s face. (Beanie adjustment alert: unfortunately for Eddie, there doesn’t seem to be a badge number so he could actually verify the guy is really who he said he was, not that exquisite Ed has the first clue, anyway. His is not to ask or eschew; his is but to smile handsomely and do. –My apologies to Lord Tennyson.) Manazanares jumps right into a discussion about false identities and how people falsify all sorts of documents, as a façade, in order to commit all kinds of heinous crimes while seeking protection behind the name of innocent people. Fr/Ed guardedly asks Manzanares why exactly he’s there to see him. Rene tells him “his superiors” need to confirm that he and a narcotrafficking-assasin who has been identified as “Franco Santoro,” are not one in the same. Ruh-Roh! (Viewerville shows admiration at how clever this P.I. is and figures Artemio Bravo really does hire only the best.) This cock n bull line hits home. Eddie and Jacinto are both take-a-big-swallow-and-two-deep-breaths-impactado.
Back in the boardroom of Grupo Lactos, Babs talks Fer into quickly meeting with Franco Santoro after some rubbish about doing whatever Nanda’s “heart and good sense dictate.” Nanda says fine, she’ll make it quick and then the honeymoon will go on as planned.
Manzanares tells Fr/Eddie that he will have to provide all kinds of documentation about his real estate holdings, his bank accounts, work references, etcetera, to prove he is who he says he is. He tries to avoid any doubts about his story by officiously adding that it could be worse because he could have come with an arrest warrant. “--But, because the people in the district thought so highly of you, my superiors decided it was simply a matter of stolen identity.” Ed is secretly sweating buckets now and asks for a couple of day’s time to gather the information that he needs. Manzanares says fine. He will be back the day after tomorrow to clear things up and then leaves.
Back at the sidewalk café, Prissy complains that Vlad still hasn’t told her anything yet. He reminds his “Gordita” that he’s in love with her and can’t help himself for wanting to chitchat with her. (Ok. Anybody who calls a pregnant woman Gordita might as well have “Loser” tattooed on his forehead. He’d definitely be the first one crossed off my Christmas list.) He adds, sort of awkwardly, that he’ll help her with the baby. Prissy harrumphs and starts to walk off. So Vlad finally blurts out that Any Balls has been stealing from her. Pris is stopped-in-her-tracks impactada.
At Las Animas again, Eddie is forced to tell Jacinto about the ID card he found in the phone booth. Cinto thinks that that’s why Jairo backed off the other day, because the police were going around looking for this “Santoro”. Ed worries that he’s hit a dead end now and that there’s no way out of this mess. Jacinto advises him to get hold of his American friend and head for parts unknown but Ed refuses. He says he still is determined to find the person who’s been lurking in the shadows and who had persecuted him and his mother for so long. If he leaves he certainly wouldn’t be able to rescue Lili from the clutches of La Hiena and if La Hiena takes Lili out of the country it will be to get rid of her permanently, because Lili is the only one who knows that she killed Montserrat Elizalde.
Jacinto is about to suffer a major circuitry breakdown at this point. (Ok. Ok. No news here. Cinto’s circuits always seem to be on permanent overload.) He yells at Ed that now he’s got no choice and warns him that if he sticks around there they’ll put him in prison. Ed is just as adamant that he’s not going to run away because it’s his responsibility, and he’s going to see it through to the end. (Here’s where the CC goes on the fritz again.) Barb calls Fr/Ed back at that point to tell him Fernanda is definitely coming and she just needs to know when he wants her there. He tells her in an hour is fine. Babs conspiratorially reminds him that Fer doesn’t know about their little dinner meeting the night before and hubby Gonzo only knows that Barb spoke to him about Fer’s project. He says fine, that mum’s the word, and hangs up. (He turns his back to Jacinto and without CC I’m not sure what was said exactly but, it seems…) Ed mumbles something about dealing with “that guy” and Cinto asks, “How?” Eddie says with Fernanda’s help.
Back at Grupo Lactos, Damn is checking his Swiss bank account online and gets upset because he still doesn’t see a deposit for the $3 million in there. There’s a knock on the door and it is Fernanda. She wonders if he’s upset or not (we assume) since she notices that his door was locked. (Still no CC here.) He says something about he just came in since they were going on their honeymoon (?) to check his e-mail. She apologizes because it seems that everything is conspiring to keep them from going on that honeymoon. They agree to meet back at the house after she finishes meeting with Santoro. After Fer leaves, Dam gets a call from Flor telling him that Anibal wants him in his office right away. Dam says fine and hangs up. He gripes to himself that Vlad better come through for him because before he leaves he wants to make life miserable for Anibal, “that conceited …” (fill in the blank).
Back at the street-side café again, Prissy is fed up with Vlad’s accusations and accuses him of libeling her husband just to get in good with her. Vlad suddenly asks her (I think) how long it’s been since AB handed her a statement from her accounts in Miami. She stops in her tracks and asks him how he found out about that investment. He says it’s not important, just that there’s been some funny movement with the funds. She says what happens with her money is none of his business. Vlad agrees, but says since they do have a kid on the way he wanted to watch out for the two of them. Prissy immediately screams “YOU ARE NOT THE FATHER!” at him. He backs off then and nervously advises her to check on her accounts anyway. (What a milquetoast.) He adds that if he’s not telling her the truth about things then she won’t see or hear from him again. Prissy is totally disgusted and walks off without a word. Vlad sits there dejectedly in his 60’s style preppy-loafers-without-socks and is frustrated with his miserable self.
The Barbot gets in touch with Cigarman now to tell him about her little rendezvous the day before with Franco Santoro. She tells him that Santoro is a hard nut to crack [hueso de roer]. He tells her that he’s waiting to get the goods on Santoro and with the financial analysis [radiográfico] he’s about to get he’ll soon learn Santoro’s weak points which will make it easier to destroy him. Barbie then asks about Padre Bosco. Bravo says that the priest’s days are numbered. We beam over to the parish church that Bosco tends and there is Rene Manzanares (apparently a master of disguise) dressed like a small town farmer, hunched and humble, asking the housekeeper if Padre Bosco is in.
Fernanda eventually arrives at Las Animas. She sits down in front of Fr/Eduardo’s desk and opens her laptop, ready to go over the figures he supposedly needs. Fer tells Fr/Ed she’s a bit miffed because she and her husband are supposed to leave in just a few hours. Fr/Ed frowns. She notices and assumes it’s because she’s discussing her private business and apologizes. Because of the rush and the last minute meeting, she says, she isn’t sure she’ll have all the answers to his questions. He hands her a cup of tea then closes her laptop and places it on the other side of the desk. He seems to be making a move on her. “More than the information you’re bringing….. “ Fr/Eddie bends down over her till his nose is only inches away from hers. Fer is both mesmerized and scandalized at the same time. “…I need you--” He starts to lose a bit of his self-control. He lets out a sigh. “…I need you, Fernanda.” (Honeymoon? What honeymoon?) She gets lost in those eyes of his.
Fernanda suddenly gets a grip and jumps up. She walks to the window and takes a deep breath. Fr/Eddie is back to his cool, collected self-again and acts as if the seduction never happened. “Why does it surprise you, Fernanda? Without you the project will never become a reality.” She assures him that her company is committed to the project even though she will be gone while it’s being built. He shakes his head no and crosses over to her. “No.” “—What do you mean no?” He leans in and this time whispers seductively in her ear. “You are totally indispensable.” She smiles and looks up at him with a twinkle in her eye. “Aren’t you exaggerating a bit? This business deal can’t depend entirely on me.” He stares into her eyes and lowers his voice. (Hearts skip a beat throughout the whole of Viewerville.) “It depends exclusively on you…because… the only reason I came to this country …was you.”
As Fernanda is left to decide what to make of Fr/Eddie’s irresistable charisma, we beam back to Padre Bosco’s office at the church. Rene Manzanares is there pretending to be a small-town schoolteacher with a son who feels he has a calling and wants to become a priest. He tricks Bosco into giving him the hours the church doors are open and when they’re locked to the public for the night, the location of his room, and the fact that he lives at the rectory alone. The two agree to meet again with “his son” there, late one evening, because the schoolteacher’s son is supposedly a male nurse who doesn’t get off from the hospital till pretty late.
Back at Las Animas in Fr/Ed’s office again, Nanda has gotten back to business and is typing away on her laptop. Fr/Ed walks by and not-so-accidentally, runs his fingers lightly along her forearm as he picks up the laptop and moves it out of the way again. (Whew! Works for me!) She pretends not to notice the goose bumps she (and the rest of Viewerville vicariously) gets from that touch to her arm. It seems she’s just asked why she is “the only reason” he came down there and why she seems to be so indispensible to this negotiation between the two companies. He says it’s a long and involved story. She says she wants to hear it and watches (with only a hint of drool) as he takes his jacket off, rolls up his sleeves, and begins to smile at her. He asks, “Do you love horses? Do you like to ride?” “--Why?” “--Because only somebody who loves horses and horseback riding as much as I do can appreciate this story.”
Fr/Ed now invents a tall tale about a man that saved his life when he lost control of a high-strung, difficult mare he was riding once. “Some years ago in a horse show for purebreds I fell in love with Centella.” Nanda thinks he is talking about a woman and turns away, obviously a bit irked. Ed notes the unconscious signals she’s just given him—definitely a green light—and he continues his story. “The horse was top notch and couldn’t be ridden by just anyone. She could only be properly ridden by an experienced horseman.” There was a man, someone he met only once and he never saw him again, but he saved his life.
“This man was raised around stables and was an excellent horseman.” He warned stubborn “Franco” about the horse, but he wouldn’t listen to him. When the horse seemed to be calmed-down enough he jumped on the horse and tried to ride it anyway. The mare took off and bolted away. “Franco” lost control of her. The mare continued to race blindly away with him hanging on for dear life till they were nearly about to run over a huge cliff. Just at the moment they were about to go over it, this daring horseman –his guardian angel-- rode after him, got hold of the reins, and stopped the racing mare. "Franco" got off and could barely stand his legs were trembling so badly. He started to cry like a baby, he tells her.
Fr/Eddie notices that Fer is enthralled with the story (as well as the storyteller). He asks if he’s boring her. She says no and grabs his arm excitedly but then gets embarrassed when she realizes she’s touched him, and she quickly lets go. (Wanna guess the amount of electricity that touch shot through the two of them? Sigh.) Franco continues. He says he asked the man what he could do to repay him for saving his life. The man told him a story, the same story and the reason he’s there telling it to her today. She doesn’t understand and asks him why. He stands up and looks over at her. “Does the name ‘Jinete Justiciero’ mean anything to you?” Fer’s eyes go wide as she struggles with a sudden rush of emotion. Eduardo is on tenterhooks as he continues to look over at her and wait for a response. He seems to really need her answer and he’s hoping it is the one he wants.
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Great recap, Jardinera! for some reason ( not using the horrible CC's for an excuse), I did not understand some of what was being said, and you helped out immensely.
So, Damian is setting Any?balls up for the fall of the embezellment that he and BOW made some time ago. Interesting, but it appears that there isn't a deposit to be made in Damian's account til Franco comes up with it; Seems that BOW had plenty to pay that measly $3M with a while ago. What's THAT all about? She can't part with some of it to make it all happen? Anyway, he's not going anywhere w/o his sheckles, and it looks like there will be another delay in the lunamiel.
That gumshoes seems pretty convincing, what with his vending machine badge and Closeau-like disguises, but it wouldn't take much effort to check him out, and that would be a reasonable thing for anyone to do at this point.
The scene between Franco (or is it Eddy, just below the realisation of Fernanda?) was a bit much. I know hoe you women were fawning, but Fernanda can't be that gullible, can she?
Lotsa questions to be answered by lotsa folks:
Franco to Gumshoes
Anyballs to Prissy
BOW to Damian (the $3M)
Lotsa questions to be answered by lotsa folks. Questions
So, Damian is setting Any?balls up for the fall of the embezellment that he and BOW made some time ago. Interesting, but it appears that there isn't a deposit to be made in Damian's account til Franco comes up with it; Seems that BOW had plenty to pay that measly $3M with a while ago. What's THAT all about? She can't part with some of it to make it all happen? Anyway, he's not going anywhere w/o his sheckles, and it looks like there will be another delay in the lunamiel.
That gumshoes seems pretty convincing, what with his vending machine badge and Closeau-like disguises, but it wouldn't take much effort to check him out, and that would be a reasonable thing for anyone to do at this point.
The scene between Franco (or is it Eddy, just below the realisation of Fernanda?) was a bit much. I know hoe you women were fawning, but Fernanda can't be that gullible, can she?
Lotsa questions to be answered by lotsa folks:
Franco to Gumshoes
Anyballs to Prissy
BOW to Damian (the $3M)
Lotsa questions to be answered by lotsa folks. Questions
Wow, Jardinera, another excellent,funny recap. Who would have ever guessed that Eddie's assumed identity would cause problems? And it's certainly high time for Lil to snap out of it. I say just snatch her up and out of there. Bring Dr.O along, he needs a job now that Babs has tossed him over the side. Damian was a little rough on the phone in his office but nothing like what he is capable of. He can do(and has done) much better. Lastly, I'm expecting world class crazy out of Vlad. Let's hope he is just warming up. Carlos
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: Saturday, May 2, 2009 at 4:52:00 PM EDT
: Saturday, May 2, 2009 at 4:52:00 PM EDT
Jardinera: Thanks for the recap and for filling in parts I missed.
I meant to comment about Martina's looks. She's a very beautiful woman, but I can't get Elvira out of my mind when I see her. I think it's the hair.
Another thing, I thought BOW had a clinic in either Berlin or Stockholm in mind for Lili. Now she's talking about Switzerland. Where did that come from?
Also, I think Franco will figure out a way to put one over on the fake detective, adding more fuel to this very involved fire.
I meant to comment about Martina's looks. She's a very beautiful woman, but I can't get Elvira out of my mind when I see her. I think it's the hair.
Another thing, I thought BOW had a clinic in either Berlin or Stockholm in mind for Lili. Now she's talking about Switzerland. Where did that come from?
Also, I think Franco will figure out a way to put one over on the fake detective, adding more fuel to this very involved fire.
I learned this recently. Thought one of my classmates was from Swiyzerland (Suiza) but she is from Sweden (Suecia). It looks like Lil is going to Estocolmo, Suecia (Stockholm, Sweden), at least that's the plan.
Don't know how Fernanda could keep from jumping his bones.
Maybe when mafia man tries to kill Padre Bosco, he will be caught to save our hero, or maybe Fr/Ed wises up to the phony cop.
Kind of looks Fr/Ed is trying to reveal who he really is.
Wonder what happens to the captions? Mine went out during the phone call between Babs & Fr/Ed.
So I really got lost on a few things. Tks for clearing things up Jardinera.
Don't know how Fernanda could keep from jumping his bones.
Maybe when mafia man tries to kill Padre Bosco, he will be caught to save our hero, or maybe Fr/Ed wises up to the phony cop.
Kind of looks Fr/Ed is trying to reveal who he really is.
Wonder what happens to the captions? Mine went out during the phone call between Babs & Fr/Ed.
So I really got lost on a few things. Tks for clearing things up Jardinera.
Jardinera, thank you for the great recap, funny editorial remarks... and good snark, too! ;-) I didn't use CCs and you still filled in some holes for me. :-)
Seems to me that $3M is a drop in the bucket for a company the size of GL. Doesn't make sense to me, and it shouldn't to FrEd either.
I did not notice Martina still wearing those platform boots. She must be channeling Laura Croft.Pasofino - I could swear I heard Barbi say she was shipping Lili out to Sweden. I heard “Suecia” (4 syllables) which is easy to confuse with Suisa (3 syllables)(switzerland).
And thank you, Jardinera, for mentioning the paper shredder and fire issues. I was tightening my beanie hat.
I’ve got to give Vlad points for the loafers-sans-socks look. That is sooo my generation. Carlos, I'm anticipating some really BSC behavior from Vlad, too.
Fr/Ed’s story made no sense to me, much less ‘Jinete Justiciero’.
Seems to me that $3M is a drop in the bucket for a company the size of GL. Doesn't make sense to me, and it shouldn't to FrEd either.
I did not notice Martina still wearing those platform boots. She must be channeling Laura Croft.Pasofino - I could swear I heard Barbi say she was shipping Lili out to Sweden. I heard “Suecia” (4 syllables) which is easy to confuse with Suisa (3 syllables)(switzerland).
And thank you, Jardinera, for mentioning the paper shredder and fire issues. I was tightening my beanie hat.
I’ve got to give Vlad points for the loafers-sans-socks look. That is sooo my generation. Carlos, I'm anticipating some really BSC behavior from Vlad, too.
Fr/Ed’s story made no sense to me, much less ‘Jinete Justiciero’.
Did anyone else notice the lion sculpture on FrEd's desk, along with the stallion? I started looking for a fox statue, too.
You all have me looking at the pictures when I can take my eyes off the captions & Fr/Ed. I noticed the horse but not the lion.
It's too bad that Eddie couldn't have shared one of those perfect looking martinis with Nanda. I believe he could have sealed the deal right there. Carlos
Doris, Jinete Justiciero was Eddie's play name for himself as a child. It looked to me as though Nanda remembers. Carlos
Doris: Speaking of noticing the statues on his desk, did you or anyone else notice the small statue of Napoleon in one corner of Fr/Ed's office?
Funny, funny recap Jardinera! I really appreciate all the time you recappers take to do this for all of us.
Pasofino: I don't like the way Martina's hair looks, either. She is a beautiful woman but I guess her look must be "small-town mud-wrestler/nurse" for this TN!
MEPS in AZ
Funny, funny recap Jardinera! I really appreciate all the time you recappers take to do this for all of us.
Pasofino: I don't like the way Martina's hair looks, either. She is a beautiful woman but I guess her look must be "small-town mud-wrestler/nurse" for this TN!
MEPS in AZ
Permalink posted by : Saturday, May 2, 2009 at 6:24:00 PM EDT
: Saturday, May 2, 2009 at 6:24:00 PM EDT
Excellent recap, Jardinera, as always!
A word about gordita, which is what Vlad called Priscilla. Jacinto calls Margarita chaparita "shorty". It seems that nicknames like that, with affection, are very common in Latin America. My friend from El Salvador calls her son Gordo. My co-worker from Mexico called one of her sons Gordo also until he was about 16 years old! There's some character, can't remember if it's from this novela or another one, who calls his sweetie flaquita.
It seemed like a ploy, but I wonder if the real Franco Santoro could be a narcotraficante.
A word about gordita, which is what Vlad called Priscilla. Jacinto calls Margarita chaparita "shorty". It seems that nicknames like that, with affection, are very common in Latin America. My friend from El Salvador calls her son Gordo. My co-worker from Mexico called one of her sons Gordo also until he was about 16 years old! There's some character, can't remember if it's from this novela or another one, who calls his sweetie flaquita.
It seemed like a ploy, but I wonder if the real Franco Santoro could be a narcotraficante.
Permalink posted by : Saturday, May 2, 2009 at 6:44:00 PM EDT
: Saturday, May 2, 2009 at 6:44:00 PM EDT
OMG Mine That Bird looks like he was shot out of a cannon in The Ky Derby.
50-1 shot, what a race. Fits in with out TN, don't you think?
50-1 shot, what a race. Fits in with out TN, don't you think?
Great recap, Jardinera, for info and snark.
Gardenia was at it again. When she brought coffee to the office, Fr/Ed took the tray with coffee and told her to leave but when she saw Fernanda, she attempted to grab the tray and to go around him so she could have a conversation with Nanda. Fr/Ed managed take back the tray and send her out. Lol. She is one super frustrated employee.
We were spared a night with Santi and Rory...what a nice break. GinCA
Gardenia was at it again. When she brought coffee to the office, Fr/Ed took the tray with coffee and told her to leave but when she saw Fernanda, she attempted to grab the tray and to go around him so she could have a conversation with Nanda. Fr/Ed managed take back the tray and send her out. Lol. She is one super frustrated employee.
We were spared a night with Santi and Rory...what a nice break. GinCA
Permalink posted by : Saturday, May 2, 2009 at 6:58:00 PM EDT
: Saturday, May 2, 2009 at 6:58:00 PM EDT
Great recap Jardinera. I was wondering who Jinete Justiciero was too. Eddie is trying to reveal himself to Nanda. Guess that honeymoon will be canceled for sure LOL. Damian wasn't happy to see the $3 mil not deposited into his swiss account. Has anyone noticed how everytime Nanda kisses him that Damian wipes his mouth afterwards. I guess that shows how he really feels about Nanda to pave to way for her to fall for "Franco's" charms. The fake P.I definitely struck a nerve with the drug trafficking story he gave Eddie. Jacinto looked as though he would explode. How is Eddie going to get himself out of this growing mess? Will the fake P.I actually kill the priest? I too was glad to have a break from Santi and Rory. I have no words for Vlad.
Permalink posted by : Saturday, May 2, 2009 at 7:18:00 PM EDT
: Saturday, May 2, 2009 at 7:18:00 PM EDT
Thanks, Jardinera. Wasn't Jinete Justiciero the name Eduardo used when the kids were playing superheroes ??? Will Nanda remember ??? FC is a smoooth operator in this one. I thought that Artie wanted Babs to kill Padre ChocolateMeeelk. Does she know that he hired Gumshoe to investigate Fr/ed and kill the good padre ??? So will Dr. Onoyoudin't help Fr/ed take Lili away or will Fr/ed somehow change Babs' mind about shipping Lili abroad ??? Also, will Fr/ed figure out the the ''cop'' was a fake ??
Permalink posted by : Saturday, May 2, 2009 at 7:33:00 PM EDT
: Saturday, May 2, 2009 at 7:33:00 PM EDT
I think that might be a problem with mustaches, eating, kissing leaves them kind of messy. Damian would be the best in a "Got Milk" commercial
The mural in Artemio Bravo's office gives me the creeps. I rarely notice photos, but I almost always notice the art on the walls. It always seems to match the character, especially the bad guys. Wish I had paid more attention to Vlad's place.
Thanks for clearing up the JJ mystery for me, Carlos.
I remember in the South American telenovela,Cazando un Millionario, Valentina always called Felipe ‘Gordo.’ It is a term of endearment.
http://foro.telenovela-world.com/n4/list.php?f=110 (a very good telenovela)
Thanks for clearing up the JJ mystery for me, Carlos.
I remember in the South American telenovela,Cazando un Millionario, Valentina always called Felipe ‘Gordo.’ It is a term of endearment.
http://foro.telenovela-world.com/n4/list.php?f=110 (a very good telenovela)
Always love the recaps Jardinera. And the poor blacksmith "currently playing bumper cars with the walls" was a marvelous description.
And amiga, you really did justice to that seduction scene between Eduardo and Fernanda. Holey Moley...it was 10 times hotter than the white satin dream he had. By the time he whipped off his jacket and rolled up his sleeves, I was breaking a sweat myself. You recapped it perfectly.
And Dorado Dave...would we get that caught up in that story the way Fernanda did. Damn right, amigo. Actually we're perfectly capable of giving rapt attention to some old fogey telling us about his accounting techniques. That's what women do. They give themselves totally to those who talk to them....children, friends, lovers, whatever. It's our way of connecting. And Lord have mercy, when it's someone like Fernando Colunga, Katie bar the door.
As far as I'm concerned, Fernanda is no longer a virgin. She's been made love to, baby,....and by the best.
And amiga, you really did justice to that seduction scene between Eduardo and Fernanda. Holey Moley...it was 10 times hotter than the white satin dream he had. By the time he whipped off his jacket and rolled up his sleeves, I was breaking a sweat myself. You recapped it perfectly.
And Dorado Dave...would we get that caught up in that story the way Fernanda did. Damn right, amigo. Actually we're perfectly capable of giving rapt attention to some old fogey telling us about his accounting techniques. That's what women do. They give themselves totally to those who talk to them....children, friends, lovers, whatever. It's our way of connecting. And Lord have mercy, when it's someone like Fernando Colunga, Katie bar the door.
As far as I'm concerned, Fernanda is no longer a virgin. She's been made love to, baby,....and by the best.
fun recap....thanks i look so forward to reading it and then the comments after....sooo fun....vlad is such a bug...Prissy is going to have her hands full....wonder where Damian will be going once he gets the money and leaves poor fer...is he to meet Babs in the Bahamas or somewhere? maybe after Fer remembers Ed/Fr childhood nickname she may put 2 and 2 together....hopefully.......
Lili needs to get well, her story line is getting dull to me....Rory and Santi too.....Great reca,Jardinera BN in CA
Lili needs to get well, her story line is getting dull to me....Rory and Santi too.....Great reca,Jardinera BN in CA
Permalink posted by : Saturday, May 2, 2009 at 9:26:00 PM EDT
: Saturday, May 2, 2009 at 9:26:00 PM EDT
Judyb~~~roflol~~~You are so right on !!! FC is the only actor I know of who can use the airwaves for mass seduction. I had a cigarette after that scene...and I don't smoke. As for listening attentively, you are also on target. On Wednesday, a guy came to the house to set up a financial thingy for hub and me. When everything was wrapped up, I made the mistake of asking him where his office was and somehow that launched the old windbag into a 15 story about how his first wife left him, how he met the second wife, how the second wife died, how he met the third wife..... I stood there nodding my head politely and thinking how much I wanted to change out of my work clothes and read the recaps. Fc , on the other hand...I listen to every word from those lucsious lips...even though I only understand about 2% of the words he says. If an answer would be called for...I'd just say ''YES.''
Permalink posted by : Saturday, May 2, 2009 at 9:28:00 PM EDT
: Saturday, May 2, 2009 at 9:28:00 PM EDT
JudyB and Susanlynn: Ack!! Why do I always feel so naughty after you two describe the "afterglow" from watching a scene with FC? ROTFLOL!! --But when you're right, you're right, y punto!
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Dorado Dave: I was tracking with you about Barbie's bucks in the Caymans. What's she need Franco's $3 mil for except to add insult to injury when she finally skips out and meets up with that dildo, Damian? As for Fernanda's gullibility, I don't think she was paying much attention to the actual story which I agree was somewhat allegorical and muy dopey. She was more caught up in the guy telling it and probably wondering what it would feel like having those big biceps wrapped around her in a "bare" hug on a bear rug.... I know I was!
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Pasofino: Elvira is good, too!
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Carlos: Hubby always says "candy is dandy, but liquor is quicker."
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Dorado Dave: I was tracking with you about Barbie's bucks in the Caymans. What's she need Franco's $3 mil for except to add insult to injury when she finally skips out and meets up with that dildo, Damian? As for Fernanda's gullibility, I don't think she was paying much attention to the actual story which I agree was somewhat allegorical and muy dopey. She was more caught up in the guy telling it and probably wondering what it would feel like having those big biceps wrapped around her in a "bare" hug on a bear rug.... I know I was!
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Pasofino: Elvira is good, too!
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Carlos: Hubby always says "candy is dandy, but liquor is quicker."
Doris: Those loafers-sans-socks...very five-decades ago. Bleak chic and really puts Vlad in that Riviera Rich wanna-be group of losers now for me.
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MEPS in AZ: didn't catch the Napoleon, just that stallion. Martina is very pretty, but also darned tall even without those 3" platforms! What were they thinking?
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Novelera: You're thinking of the husband in Querida Enemiga who affectionately called his wife with the obesity problem "Gordita". I guess it is a pet name, which would sound better if I thought of "voluptuos" instead, and maybe it's one of those lost-in-translation cultural divide things, but it does grate on me because all I hear is "fatty" not "voluptuous one." ; ? )
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Pirate Babe: I think Eddie's building up to the big reveal also, but first he's building the dead Eduardo's rep up to hero status. Maybe as an ego boost? Dunno. Either way, there's gonna be Hell to pay when she finds out who he really is and what he's done to her and the way he's playing her family for fools.
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MEPS in AZ: didn't catch the Napoleon, just that stallion. Martina is very pretty, but also darned tall even without those 3" platforms! What were they thinking?
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Novelera: You're thinking of the husband in Querida Enemiga who affectionately called his wife with the obesity problem "Gordita". I guess it is a pet name, which would sound better if I thought of "voluptuos" instead, and maybe it's one of those lost-in-translation cultural divide things, but it does grate on me because all I hear is "fatty" not "voluptuous one." ; ? )
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Pirate Babe: I think Eddie's building up to the big reveal also, but first he's building the dead Eduardo's rep up to hero status. Maybe as an ego boost? Dunno. Either way, there's gonna be Hell to pay when she finds out who he really is and what he's done to her and the way he's playing her family for fools.
BN in CA: Yup, the Rory story has turned dull as dishwater for me, too. Now, Lili's could do a 180 if they faked her death and hid her for a while. Something's gotta give with the Lili plotline really quick cuz there's only so much gibberish and nutty behavior you can watch before your trigger finger goes for the FF>> button.
Such a good episode and great recap!
Hubby suggested in the middle of that last scene between Fer and FrEd that this is all a pretext for FrEd to reveal that he knew Eduardo, which will of course, impactar mucho a Fer and solidify their connection. I didn't see that coming!
Jinete Justiciero or whatever is definitely Eduardo's nickname from childhood. That came up the other night because when Jairo showed up at Jacinto and Marg's house and asked who FrEd was he said he was the jinete justiciero. That's going to backfire on him sometime soon.
I am still very confused about the $3 million. It seems that Barbie was trying to scandalize Franco out of investing (airing the family's dirty laundry, her under-the-breath comments,etc) but it's too big of a coincidence that that is exactly the money Damian is supposed to get within 24 hours.
So maybe her plan is that the $3 mil. gets deposited, Dam runs, Barb then somehow frames Dam for it all - but then what? Just seems odd. I guess that would be so scandalous as to deter any future PM investment in GL though. . . dunno.
Hubby suggested in the middle of that last scene between Fer and FrEd that this is all a pretext for FrEd to reveal that he knew Eduardo, which will of course, impactar mucho a Fer and solidify their connection. I didn't see that coming!
Jinete Justiciero or whatever is definitely Eduardo's nickname from childhood. That came up the other night because when Jairo showed up at Jacinto and Marg's house and asked who FrEd was he said he was the jinete justiciero. That's going to backfire on him sometime soon.
I am still very confused about the $3 million. It seems that Barbie was trying to scandalize Franco out of investing (airing the family's dirty laundry, her under-the-breath comments,etc) but it's too big of a coincidence that that is exactly the money Damian is supposed to get within 24 hours.
So maybe her plan is that the $3 mil. gets deposited, Dam runs, Barb then somehow frames Dam for it all - but then what? Just seems odd. I guess that would be so scandalous as to deter any future PM investment in GL though. . . dunno.
I have been savoring the recaps and the comments so much they have become the highlight of my day. I would have never imagined I could become so addicted. Thank you all for the time you spend to bring a lot of enjoyment to others.
I want to add my vote to how hot that storytelling scene was. I cannot believe how much chemistry Fr/Ed and Fer seem to have in this scene (and others, like when they first met again after the mud flinging, when they saw each other at the gas station, etc.} and how little excitement was generated when they were in bed during the dream sequence. I can't quite figure it out.
But this last episode was definitely gooood. And Jardinera's retelling of the scene brought back all the FC lust again! Thanks! Barbara
I want to add my vote to how hot that storytelling scene was. I cannot believe how much chemistry Fr/Ed and Fer seem to have in this scene (and others, like when they first met again after the mud flinging, when they saw each other at the gas station, etc.} and how little excitement was generated when they were in bed during the dream sequence. I can't quite figure it out.
But this last episode was definitely gooood. And Jardinera's retelling of the scene brought back all the FC lust again! Thanks! Barbara
Permalink posted by : Saturday, May 2, 2009 at 11:24:00 PM EDT
: Saturday, May 2, 2009 at 11:24:00 PM EDT
Re ''Gordita'': I had a whole family from Colombia as students a few years ago. ...4 brothers, a sister, and the wife of one brother. The wife [Maddalena Carmen] told me that her husband [Fernando] called her ''Gordita.'' When I told her that an American wife would not like that nickname, she said that it was a term of affection. I would prefer ''mi vida'' .
Permalink posted by : Saturday, May 2, 2009 at 11:28:00 PM EDT
: Saturday, May 2, 2009 at 11:28:00 PM EDT
Thanks for the great recap Jardinera. Things really heating up. The P.I. starting to catch up to Fr/Ed. From Art's talk to Barb, appears he is just assuming he'll get info on Franco to help do him in. The P.I. is quite the chameleon. Cowboy at the bar, Secret Service guy at the church the first time. Second time, simple farmer. Does this mean the Padre doesn't have much time left? Are they going be able to save him?
I guess Silvestre wasn't hurt that bad at all. Already headed home.
I found a movie called "el jinete justiciero en retando a la muerte" that was made back in 1966. So that may be a more of a common reference than I would have thought.
I wonder if Damian will leave town before the 3 mil shows up or not? I would think he should stick around until it happens.
JeffMN
I guess Silvestre wasn't hurt that bad at all. Already headed home.
I found a movie called "el jinete justiciero en retando a la muerte" that was made back in 1966. So that may be a more of a common reference than I would have thought.
I wonder if Damian will leave town before the 3 mil shows up or not? I would think he should stick around until it happens.
JeffMN
Permalink posted by : Saturday, May 2, 2009 at 11:34:00 PM EDT
: Saturday, May 2, 2009 at 11:34:00 PM EDT
Definitely, if I used Gordita as a term of affection, my wife would slug me. :-) Another thing that seems strange to me is just the way they will use 'mujer'. I was watching Mariana the other day and Loca Maria Lola and Isidro came to the one house. They opened the door and Maria Lola just wandered into the house without getting invited. Isidro made a grab at her to keep from walking in, missed, and then said "Mujer!". If I would say something like that to my wife, she would have slugged me. Ok, maybe wouldn't have been slugged, she's not violent. :-)
Anyway, they say some thing different than we do here. :-)
JeffMN
Anyway, they say some thing different than we do here. :-)
JeffMN
Permalink posted by : Saturday, May 2, 2009 at 11:43:00 PM EDT
: Saturday, May 2, 2009 at 11:43:00 PM EDT
Laurafern11: Welcome! Welcome to your hubby, too!
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GinCA: Gardenia is way too social for her own good. It may come back to bite her before too long.
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Barbara: I'm baffled by the lack of excitement and/or "heat" between Silvia and FC in the white on white bedroom dream scenes too. I thought it had something to do with the "choreography". I didn't have the feeling the actors felt comfortable together, either. It was like they were both "phoning it in" for the director. Maybe it's because there was no real build-up to those dream sequences, either. They were just slap-dashed together and stuck in to make this version less PG-rated and it fell flat. Too bad, really since the regular scenes have real heat.
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JeffMN: If my hubby called me Gordita his shins might be a bit skinned and definitely sore the next day! > ; ? )
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GinCA: Gardenia is way too social for her own good. It may come back to bite her before too long.
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Barbara: I'm baffled by the lack of excitement and/or "heat" between Silvia and FC in the white on white bedroom dream scenes too. I thought it had something to do with the "choreography". I didn't have the feeling the actors felt comfortable together, either. It was like they were both "phoning it in" for the director. Maybe it's because there was no real build-up to those dream sequences, either. They were just slap-dashed together and stuck in to make this version less PG-rated and it fell flat. Too bad, really since the regular scenes have real heat.
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JeffMN: If my hubby called me Gordita his shins might be a bit skinned and definitely sore the next day! > ; ? )
Thanks Jardinera!
Actually recapper Melissa and I are friends from some other forums and she led me over here. I was thrilled to discover such a site!
I only get hooked on the occasional novela, but during Pasión I was muy impactada (for the entire four months) by Fernando Colunga so I think from now on I'll just watch his shows... haha. Hubby finds my crush amusing.
Actually recapper Melissa and I are friends from some other forums and she led me over here. I was thrilled to discover such a site!
I only get hooked on the occasional novela, but during Pasión I was muy impactada (for the entire four months) by Fernando Colunga so I think from now on I'll just watch his shows... haha. Hubby finds my crush amusing.
About Fr/ed's dream...I seem to recall that the first love scenes between FC and Susana Gonzales in Pasion were disappointing, but later they heated up. Maybe the director wants to build up the heat slowly. As in real life, practice makes perfect.
Permalink posted by : Sunday, May 3, 2009 at 8:14:00 AM EDT
: Sunday, May 3, 2009 at 8:14:00 AM EDT
As for the Fred/Fer scenes, they appear to me to be a backdrop for posing Colunga's bod .... his chiseled body (and his awful chisled hair). If we want to see him posing, there are plenty of Colunga websites out there. Fred/Fer look totally staged and unnatural. I agree, the rolling up the sleeves was a much sexier scene.
Permalink posted by : Sunday, May 3, 2009 at 8:35:00 AM EDT
: Sunday, May 3, 2009 at 8:35:00 AM EDT
jardinera you do an excxellent job at the recaps. I enjoy these recaps and comments. It is like having a therapy session. Nothing about a person is left unturned ROTF. In my younger days I watched General Hospital and I never read into what was happening. These recaps/comments take on a totally new meaning to soaps for me. Maybe it was because I was younge and less mentally mature (late 20's, compared to middle 60's).
Permalink posted by : Sunday, May 3, 2009 at 9:50:00 AM EDT
: Sunday, May 3, 2009 at 9:50:00 AM EDT
Anon 9:50, I think that's because of the viewer's state of mind.
The last time I watched a US soap, I was 14 (the first year of TY&TR, so that was eons ago). I suspect that those who watch them sit down for brain candy or mindless entertainment. The brain is mostly on autopilot.
Most of us started watching for language development, and now we enjoy the Caray community. We sit down with a whole different mindset. The brain is activated, so we notice the finer points. A good novela like MEPS has meat to dig into. A great novela like YSBLF has incredible depth. A, um, not great novela like Tontas has little, but still we find some.
But when Tontas ran in Mexico, I skimmed a Spanish language board. Guess what? Nearly all the conversation was incredibly shallow. Significant discussion was rarer than a flat-chested protaganista. Keep in mind, the people on the board were native speakers. They weren't watching a novela to learn; they were there for brain candy.
No offense intended to our native speakers here. If you hang out on an English-speaking board, that says you are looking for something else, too.
The last time I watched a US soap, I was 14 (the first year of TY&TR, so that was eons ago). I suspect that those who watch them sit down for brain candy or mindless entertainment. The brain is mostly on autopilot.
Most of us started watching for language development, and now we enjoy the Caray community. We sit down with a whole different mindset. The brain is activated, so we notice the finer points. A good novela like MEPS has meat to dig into. A great novela like YSBLF has incredible depth. A, um, not great novela like Tontas has little, but still we find some.
But when Tontas ran in Mexico, I skimmed a Spanish language board. Guess what? Nearly all the conversation was incredibly shallow. Significant discussion was rarer than a flat-chested protaganista. Keep in mind, the people on the board were native speakers. They weren't watching a novela to learn; they were there for brain candy.
No offense intended to our native speakers here. If you hang out on an English-speaking board, that says you are looking for something else, too.
Variopinta - if you are referring to "Ugly Betty" as the U.S. version, I'm going to say yes. I gave up on UP last spring. It strayed too far from the basic story and did not appeal to me at all, anymore.
I agree - the US version of Ugly Betty is not much like the original or the other remakes. You can barely even compare the US version to the others.
I was excited when I thought they were going to stick to the basic story and keep it finite; instead they totally changed it and made it a typical open-ended TV series.
I was excited when I thought they were going to stick to the basic story and keep it finite; instead they totally changed it and made it a typical open-ended TV series.
Great recap, Jardinera!
Jeff, not only is "Rene Manzanares" a a man of a thousand faces, but the joke is he always uses the same name, and no one ever notices! (at least so far). I sure hope he doesn't kill Padre Bosco, but so far, he seems very good at whatever he's doing. He's a fascinating bad guy, and I hope by the end of this novela he meets an equally fascinating end!
Jeff, not only is "Rene Manzanares" a a man of a thousand faces, but the joke is he always uses the same name, and no one ever notices! (at least so far). I sure hope he doesn't kill Padre Bosco, but so far, he seems very good at whatever he's doing. He's a fascinating bad guy, and I hope by the end of this novela he meets an equally fascinating end!
Well, we were complaining that there were too many unattached ladies in this story and not enough men. Looks like we might have to fix someone up with Rene. ;-)
BTW, I know "Manzanares" doesn't really mean "Apple-Nose," but that's what I think of every time he says his name.
BTW, I know "Manzanares" doesn't really mean "Apple-Nose," but that's what I think of every time he says his name.
Variopinta, certainly if you have the opportunity to sample Betty la Fea, do it. I did and now I'm violating my own 2 TN rule in order to watch. Carlos
Carlos - I am also violating my no-more-than-one-telenovela-at-a-time rule, to watch BLF. My cable provider added Telefutura four weeks ago, and I'm hooked.
Variopinta, regarding the Feas. The first was the Colombian, "Yo soy Betty la fea." Many long-time TN fans place it among the best TNs ever made. It's rerunning right now on Telefutura at 10 PM, and it just reached #59, the part where the plot begins to unfold (the embargo, etc.). By all means, look into it if you get Telefutura.
It was so popular that rights were sold to produce versions in other countries. All those versions except the US one stay more-or-less true to the original. The Mexican one uses a virtually identical script through episode number 75 (of 174 Colombian episodes).
The Mexican one, "La fea más bella," broke all sorts of audience records. It had more comedy than the original, and it was extended to 300 episodes, two factors that made the purists hold it in contempt. But the galan, Jaime Camil, brought an incomparable magic to the production. For many Caray fans, it was the reason we started watching novelas.
Finally, in direct answer to your question. Yes, the various Feas are much better than the US Ugly Betty. Gaitan, the author, wrote a great, complex, solid plot, and his character development is pure genius. You can dig and dig into what makes them tick, and still keep finding more gems.
See it!
It was so popular that rights were sold to produce versions in other countries. All those versions except the US one stay more-or-less true to the original. The Mexican one uses a virtually identical script through episode number 75 (of 174 Colombian episodes).
The Mexican one, "La fea más bella," broke all sorts of audience records. It had more comedy than the original, and it was extended to 300 episodes, two factors that made the purists hold it in contempt. But the galan, Jaime Camil, brought an incomparable magic to the production. For many Caray fans, it was the reason we started watching novelas.
Finally, in direct answer to your question. Yes, the various Feas are much better than the US Ugly Betty. Gaitan, the author, wrote a great, complex, solid plot, and his character development is pure genius. You can dig and dig into what makes them tick, and still keep finding more gems.
See it!
Do they really kill priests in TN's? I know Fernando tried to kill Padre Tadeo in FELS but didn't succeed, Juan to the rescue. Who will save Padre Bosco, hmmmmm, let me guess.
I asked about Betty La Fea because I thought the U.S. version was estupido, and couldn't get interested, but most TV is, except for the news & of course MEPS.
A match for Renee Manzanares????
Babs is taken by two men & possibly 3, maybe even Artemio.
I asked about Betty La Fea because I thought the U.S. version was estupido, and couldn't get interested, but most TV is, except for the news & of course MEPS.
A match for Renee Manzanares????
Babs is taken by two men & possibly 3, maybe even Artemio.
Possible bad news. Is seems as if all of "laurisgar" videos of MEPS have been removed from You Tube.
Barbara
Barbara
Permalink posted by : Sunday, May 3, 2009 at 5:37:00 PM EDT
: Sunday, May 3, 2009 at 5:37:00 PM EDT
MEPS vids gone from YouTube? Poop. I'm recapping the 12th and 19th and was hoping I'd be able to refer to those in case I missed something while watching.
Oh well. At this point I think we have enough commenters to fill in anything I might miss without my safety net!
Oh well. At this point I think we have enough commenters to fill in anything I might miss without my safety net!
Julie, I don't want to start a rumor but... at one time Fea episodes started disappearing from YouTube. Within a few months, all actual episodes were gone.
Right now you can find MEPS by other users. And maybe that one user closed her account. Or maybe somebody is erradicating all of them. I know you detest spoilers, but if you are able to save YouTubes to disk, you may want to save those caps from some other YouTube user before they disappear.
Right now you can find MEPS by other users. And maybe that one user closed her account. Or maybe somebody is erradicating all of them. I know you detest spoilers, but if you are able to save YouTubes to disk, you may want to save those caps from some other YouTube user before they disappear.
"laurisgar"?? What is that. I watched up till capitulo 65 last night.
I began watching the noveles for two reasons, to learn spanish, which I began with La Fea Mas Bella and after seeing Jaime I was hooked, as paula mentioned. I have now watched about six and I have fallen in love with Jaime C and Eduardo F.C.
I began watching the noveles for two reasons, to learn spanish, which I began with La Fea Mas Bella and after seeing Jaime I was hooked, as paula mentioned. I have now watched about six and I have fallen in love with Jaime C and Eduardo F.C.
Permalink posted by : Sunday, May 3, 2009 at 6:01:00 PM EDT
: Sunday, May 3, 2009 at 6:01:00 PM EDT
Since we are in need of more males for the lonely females in this TN, what about pairing up Esteve Norton Junior with Erika when he finally decides to go south and visit Fr/Ed? She seems like a sweet girl done bad by Cadmilo and since Fr/Ed is not interested....
MEPS in AZ
MEPS in AZ
Permalink posted by : Sunday, May 3, 2009 at 6:14:00 PM EDT
: Sunday, May 3, 2009 at 6:14:00 PM EDT
Two excellent choices: Rene + Dominga, and Erika + Esteve.
Speaking of words that begin with the letter E, I'm still laughing that I didn't realize that "Estocolmo" was Stockholm! Stick an extra letter at the beginning of a word, another letter at the end of the word, and I'm totally fooled. :)
Speaking of words that begin with the letter E, I'm still laughing that I didn't realize that "Estocolmo" was Stockholm! Stick an extra letter at the beginning of a word, another letter at the end of the word, and I'm totally fooled. :)
Thanks Jardinera for the recap. I haven't had time to read all the comments yet so I might be a little behind.
Thanks for bringing up the subject of "mujer" Jeff. I noticed also that when the priest says "and now I pronounce you..." he says mujer and marido. Why wouldn't he say marida y marido? I find mujer just a little derogatory as well as the word "gordita."
I missed the scene with the rolled up sleeves, damn! My dogs were acting up so I had to go take care of that and missed the whole end.
Happy Monday everybody. It's not raining for once, yet anyway....
Thanks for bringing up the subject of "mujer" Jeff. I noticed also that when the priest says "and now I pronounce you..." he says mujer and marido. Why wouldn't he say marida y marido? I find mujer just a little derogatory as well as the word "gordita."
I missed the scene with the rolled up sleeves, damn! My dogs were acting up so I had to go take care of that and missed the whole end.
Happy Monday everybody. It's not raining for once, yet anyway....
Jardinera, thankyou thankyou thankyou!
My wacky VCR taped the wrong channel! So essentially I knew nothing about the episode. And you were there for me! Thank you!
Now I'll savor the comments with my coffee...and stop hatin' that I missed it.
My wacky VCR taped the wrong channel! So essentially I knew nothing about the episode. And you were there for me! Thank you!
Now I'll savor the comments with my coffee...and stop hatin' that I missed it.
Connie - "marida" simply is not a word in Spanish language. I still clearly remember the day our teacher explained that one to us, because my reaction was just like yours. It's either mujer or esposa
Is Franco doing "Arabian Nights"!? Or maybe that's not the story where the storyteller stays alive by telling short stories nightly to the king. I'm hooked! Totally! Live forever Franco.
Carlos! re:"Doris, Jinete Justiciero was Eddie's play name for himself as a child."
You mean I don't have to fill my knowledge gap Googling for horse racing legends?! What a memory Carlos, thank you!
But, ah-no, he's going to make Fern cry some more.
You mean I don't have to fill my knowledge gap Googling for horse racing legends?! What a memory Carlos, thank you!
But, ah-no, he's going to make Fern cry some more.
Remember, all, up until the recent past, here it was- "I now pronounce you man and wife". Is/was that offensive?
Yep, laurisgar has removed all her videos. I checked last nite, googled her name, and found something something about being banned by youtube if she didn't delete it all. That sucks..
Yep, laurisgar has removed all her videos. I checked last nite, googled her name, and found something something about being banned by youtube if she didn't delete it all. That sucks..
Permalink posted by : Monday, May 4, 2009 at 10:06:00 AM EDT
: Monday, May 4, 2009 at 10:06:00 AM EDT
Carlos- what an excellent memory! I kind of made a mental note of the term "Jinete justicero" when it was first used, but had forgotten about it. Now Franco's use of it makes sense...
Permalink posted by : Monday, May 4, 2009 at 10:23:00 AM EDT
: Monday, May 4, 2009 at 10:23:00 AM EDT
Franco and Fern...Would'nt that kind of smooth operator seduction take prior practice? (So much for the virginal Edwardo theory.)
Wouldn't Fernanda catch on to the MANY double entendras, and hear alarms going off? (Huh Fernanda? Where is your mind! Wack yourself up side your head. Yeah it is what it is - the guy's coming on to you. Don't say a nice guy like him 'cause you don't know he's a nice guy.)
As much as I'm enjoying the seduction (...and I'm enjoying this a Whole lot!)... I'm just lookin' out for a sister. Be nieve but don't be stupid. See wolf. See wolf in wolf's clothing.
Wouldn't Fernanda catch on to the MANY double entendras, and hear alarms going off? (Huh Fernanda? Where is your mind! Wack yourself up side your head. Yeah it is what it is - the guy's coming on to you. Don't say a nice guy like him 'cause you don't know he's a nice guy.)
As much as I'm enjoying the seduction (...and I'm enjoying this a Whole lot!)... I'm just lookin' out for a sister. Be nieve but don't be stupid. See wolf. See wolf in wolf's clothing.
Anon, that's not good news about laurisgar. If they're purging her set, they'll probably purge others soon.
What advantage would there be to her knowing he is really Eduardo? I bet Dam is going to just "disappear."
Jardinera, thank you for the wonderful recap. The detail and humor are greatly appreciated. Can't imagine how Fr/Ed will save Lili and save himself so will be fun to watch. Diana in MA
Permalink posted by : Monday, May 4, 2009 at 10:54:00 AM EDT
: Monday, May 4, 2009 at 10:54:00 AM EDT
Jinete Justiciero, besides being a movie, looks to also have been a Comic Book. He appears to have been some kind of a Lone Ranger and wore a mask. I'm sure that's where Fr/Ed will go when Fernanda says she is familiar with Jinete Justiciero. But... It'll be another little thing sitting at the back of Nanda's mind that she'll put together somewhere down the line and figure out Ed and Franco are one and the same.
JeffMN
JeffMN
Permalink posted by : Monday, May 4, 2009 at 12:23:00 PM EDT
: Monday, May 4, 2009 at 12:23:00 PM EDT
Bonney, that is the story of Shaherizad and one of the storys she tells is the Arabian Nights. Yes. Great paralelle.
Okay, someone on this board, I think during FELS suggested the best way to learn Spanish is to get a "hairy dictionay". Well, I haven't learned much yet, but I sure like the book!
Okay, someone on this board, I think during FELS suggested the best way to learn Spanish is to get a "hairy dictionay". Well, I haven't learned much yet, but I sure like the book!
Hmmmmm...I cannot take credit for the ''hairy dictionary'' endorsement. In fact, it took me a minute to figure out what that was...I'm a little under the weather [which is gray and rainy today] , so the synapses aren't firing too well today. My first thought was that it was a slang dictionary. However, in speaking class, I asked my students what advice they would give to someone who has just moved here and wants to learn English....One response was ''get an American girlfriend/boyfriend.'' That caused lots of laughter, and I always say that when my students are laughing, they're learning. So, who really did make the ''hairy dictionary'' comment if it wasn't me ????? P.S. I watched an old movie [Airport] , and Erik Estrada said a line in Spanish and I could understand it . [''My mother loves me.''] I've actually learned something along the way as I've fallen deeper and deeper down the rabbithole that is the world of telenovelas.
Permalink posted by : Monday, May 4, 2009 at 1:43:00 PM EDT
: Monday, May 4, 2009 at 1:43:00 PM EDT
It might have been on the FELS board to the end, but likely here. It could have been Julie. I remember at the time I was thinking "and how easy is to come by one of those?" well when you aren't looking apparently they turn up!
I've had a brown eyed, black curly haried dictionary for 5 years. I wonder if you marry them it puts them in a whole different category? Like maybe from a condensed dictionary to an unabridged dictionary! :-P
And since he's a lot younger than me would it be the "Condensed Junior Dictionary?" Ha...I crack myself up! :-)
Connie~~just as long as he's not the Dr. Suess edition! (I happen to have a DS Spanish words dictionary from the early 70's)
I don't believe he's the Dr. Seuss edition. Although one time he asked me, "What was it like when you were in school." Yikes!
Ack! And he survived? Mine is new so I can't comment on the edition but so far, and interesting read.
Oh Molly, you must have the New Websters unabridged edition. There's just something about those Latin men! And why are their eyelashes always longer than mine? Does FC have long eyelashes I wonder? I'm not always looking at his eyes. I started watching the Ladron movie but fell asleep so I'm hoping to watch it this weekend.
Definitely Unabridged. I can't tell you how many times I have said "I so didn't need to know that!".
I loved Ladron. It was very much a Oceans 11 style movie and FC had some really funny moments. He wasn't just mister pulled together hotty. Make sure you watch the "making of" too.
Are you eyelashes short or blond? I ask because I hate wearing makeup, expecially mascara, because mine are long and rub the inside of my glasses. I just had them dyed and I love it!
Yeah, whenever I try to explain to my kids about waiting for the black and white to warm up so we could watch the moom landing they are just sure I am lying. I let them watch The Birds and they didn't know what I thought it was scary because it was really bad CGI. I had to explain they didn't have CGI back then!
I loved Ladron. It was very much a Oceans 11 style movie and FC had some really funny moments. He wasn't just mister pulled together hotty. Make sure you watch the "making of" too.
Are you eyelashes short or blond? I ask because I hate wearing makeup, expecially mascara, because mine are long and rub the inside of my glasses. I just had them dyed and I love it!
Yeah, whenever I try to explain to my kids about waiting for the black and white to warm up so we could watch the moom landing they are just sure I am lying. I let them watch The Birds and they didn't know what I thought it was scary because it was really bad CGI. I had to explain they didn't have CGI back then!
Thanks, Jardinera, for another wonderful recap. My CCs were in and out, so it was helpful as well as entertaining. "She who barks orders while rolling" was excellent and just one of many funny comments.
I was mesmerized by Fr/Ed's horse adventure story, and I couldn't even understand all of it. In Othello, wasn't Desdemona seduced by Othello's tales of his adventures?
Maybe the lack of chemistry in the "nights in white satin" scene was due to the uncomfortable pose, upright-on-the-knees and trying not to fall over??
La Paloma
I was mesmerized by Fr/Ed's horse adventure story, and I couldn't even understand all of it. In Othello, wasn't Desdemona seduced by Othello's tales of his adventures?
Maybe the lack of chemistry in the "nights in white satin" scene was due to the uncomfortable pose, upright-on-the-knees and trying not to fall over??
La Paloma
Permalink posted by : Monday, May 4, 2009 at 4:07:00 PM EDT
: Monday, May 4, 2009 at 4:07:00 PM EDT
Hmmm, the mystery continues...Yes Molly I am blond and my eyelashes aren't that long. I wear black mascara so you can see them.
I thought I had the solution for losing our YouTube episodes because I remembered seeing "revive el capitulo en video" on the esmas site, so I downloaded their viewing software only to be told, sorry, that content isn't available in the U.S. There are some other postings on YouTube, but they're not as good as laurisgar. Jane
Permalink posted by : Monday, May 4, 2009 at 4:15:00 PM EDT
: Monday, May 4, 2009 at 4:15:00 PM EDT
Okay, I started searching back through and is was back in March. Everyone was talking about how they liked to learn the language. It was posted by an Anon sadly. But it obviously stuck in the back of my mind!
It could be that the user removed themselves and their content. There is lots of Manana stuff out there, but those were good posts.
Connie, I was hesitant at first but I went to someone who uses a vegitable dye and I love it. You have to lay still with your eyes closed for about 20 minutes, but it was fine. If they do it well, it leaves a line that looks like eyeliner, although that starts to wear off after the first day. You can also get lash extentions.
Connie, I was hesitant at first but I went to someone who uses a vegitable dye and I love it. You have to lay still with your eyes closed for about 20 minutes, but it was fine. If they do it well, it leaves a line that looks like eyeliner, although that starts to wear off after the first day. You can also get lash extentions.
Or, Connie, you could follow Babs's example and use industrial strength Maybelline. How does she manage to keep her eyes open ??????
Permalink posted by : Monday, May 4, 2009 at 4:53:00 PM EDT
: Monday, May 4, 2009 at 4:53:00 PM EDT
YouTube might be removing those capitulos because of copyright issues. All the old SNL ones are gone, too, and have been for a while.
Ok, I'll put the discussion to rest, I started the "diccionario peludo" discussion. I can't take original credit for it, one of the training staff when I went in the Peace Corps suggested that was the best aid in learning a language, and being a good student, I took his advice. (mine were all female dictionaries- diccionaria) That was in 1975, and I have recommended it many times since then. Usually, the dictionary can work both ways, each person learning from the other the other's idioma. It can also be a lot of fun...
Connie, was it you whose diccionario was laughing at your attempts to speak spanish? If so, Im glad that he has stopped that. One of my diccionarias was afarid to try to speak english, even with me, because of the way her kids laughed at her when they were learning english in school.
Connie, was it you whose diccionario was laughing at your attempts to speak spanish? If so, Im glad that he has stopped that. One of my diccionarias was afarid to try to speak english, even with me, because of the way her kids laughed at her when they were learning english in school.
Wow, thank you sooooo much Jardinera. That was an extremely detailed and totally entertaining recap. I didn't get the story at the end. Loved the interplay between the two! My girl was going, "uh huh, uh huh". . .yeah tell me a story, baby!
I know this is a late comment but just wanted to say that your recap of Friday was indispensable for getting today's action.
Khalilah
I know this is a late comment but just wanted to say that your recap of Friday was indispensable for getting today's action.
Khalilah
Permalink posted by : Monday, May 4, 2009 at 10:16:00 PM EDT
: Monday, May 4, 2009 at 10:16:00 PM EDT
Yes Dorado Dave it was me who had the dictionary that laughed. He's gotten better. He's starting to encourage me. I'm still timid about it though. He wants to graduate to the unabridged edition so he's helping more.
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