Saturday, September 26, 2009
MEPS 9/25/09: The M-I Team Gets Goose Eggs or the Case of the Purloined Prize
Capítulo #15_?
First, the obligatory rewind: Babs and Gonzo make plans to visit Cadmilo in the calaboose the next day as long as they get back home before 7 PM, since she has a meeting at the Association afterward. Alone, the conscience-stricken Gonzo considers what a shattering blow it will be for Santiago once he finds out that Aurora’s baby is actually Cad’s. Fernanda tries returning Aurora’s call later that evening, but she only reaches the mother superior. They discuss Fer’s suspicion that Barbara now knows Fer’s been visiting Aurora at the convent. Barbara is determined to get Aurora out of that convent come Hell or high water. As she holds up the bottle of Gonzo’s knock-out drops she says she is certain she has a means to guarantee it.
The next morning Damian gives Lucio Jacobo’s phone number to set up a meeting for further instructions on the plan to get Aurora out of the convent before Barbara can lay hands on her. He tells Lucio that for some unknown reason, the girl has turned into an obsession for Barbara. “She is Barbara’s Achilles heel. We’re going to grab the candy before she can get it into her mouth.” Lucio, our illuminating literary, promises to do whatever it takes to see Barbara Greco crying and broken, hiding in the corners and afraid to be seen, “like the doll in La Muneca Fea, [The Ugly Doll = a Mexican children’s song]. (Uh, sports fans, if you doubted this guy was mentally or emotionally stunted before, this is proof positive.) He and Dam shake hands, now that they’re best buds in the Big-House, and Lucio lights out of there like the Devil to freedom. Dam is left to gripe to himself about Barbara. He tells himself he’s going to spend every minute of his time there planning a way to get even with La Hiena for stabbing him in the back [puñaladas traperas, and another slobber-in-your-cervesa song reference, if it matters].
Barbara calls Artemio and tells him she’s just put the properties from Gonzo into his name per their agreement and, at noon the next day, she’ll be there to hand the notarized documents over to him in exchange for the file on Rebeca Sanchez. Artemio says that was the deal and he’ll fulfill his end of it. She wants to know what his plans are now. He tells her about his meeting with Padre Bosco at 8 PM that night to dig up and verify the remains of Eduardo Juarez. If those are his remains, then he’ll be handing over Lili, “—or what’s left of her!” He allows himself a few snickers. Lili walks into visit with him at that point and he hangs up.
Lili is all smiles and asks Artemio if he’s still angry with her. He gripes at her that he’s still disappointed in her for handing over his mother’s diary to Franco Santoro without permission. Because of it, he says, she’s signed her death warrant.
Across town in Santiago’s hotel room, Fer says she’s getting nervous thinking about having to rescue Lili from Bravo’s place considering it’s got to be full of guards, guns, alarms and security cameras. They’re waiting for a call from Estev once he leaves for San Rafael.
Back at Las Animas, Gardenia shows up to make a play for the affections of Eduardo one last time. “Eduardo, why didn’t you marry Errika?” He says apparently some obliging person stuck their oar in and told her he was interested in somebody else. “—Did you fall out of love with Fernanda?” He is sick of going over the same old same old, he says, but she says she’s hoping she might still have a chance with him. He tells her she’s got to accept the fact he only thinks of her as a sister and that’s all he’ll ever think of her as. He is in love with Fernanda Elizalde and that’s something he cannot change. As for her, he hopes she’ll find somebody to love and who will love her as much as he loves Fernanda. He admits then, that since his love for Fer has no future, he’s now decided to leave there for good and he’s not ever comin’ back. Denia runs off crying. (Could it be that Denia finally gets it?)
Back in the big city, Slick, aka our favorite slimeball, Lucio, enters the Shanghai Chinese restaurant for his big meet with Jacobo. Jaco seems to think about as much of him as the rest of us. Think Pink Panther rejects south of the border. “Damian Gallardo sent me. I am coming to put myself at your disposal.”
It’s visiting hours at the county calaboose and Cad gets a visit from Gonzo and Babs. (From the looks of it, he has apparently heard about those group showers cuz he doesn’t seem to have gone anywhere near soap and water.) He is whining to Gonzo that he’s got to get out of there soon because they’re getting ready to transfer him to prison. Gonzo says Cerisola is doing his best to get a stay so Cad will be kept in the county jail for a while longer. Cad wants to know if Fer is coming to dismiss the charges like Gonzo was supposed to have asked her to. Gonzo can only tell him that he’s told her already. Cad gets angry. He warns his father off the two of them and to be careful. Then he threatens Loafly if he ever comes face to face with her again. Daddy Doofus shakes his bony finger and scolds him. Cad’s got to mend his evil ways. What he’s done to Aurora is unforgiveable, blah, blah, blah. Cad zones out.
Babs tells Cad his father is right. Cad gets the hint and says, fine. He’s ready to give the kid his name and even marry Aurora. Just get him out of that hell-hole and fast. PLEEEEEEASE, Papi? He promises never ever to do anything nasty again.
Ninja Night, 7 PM: Eduardo is in Padre Bosco’s office at the church and the two wait for Artemio Bravo to arrive. Santi and Fer show up at Las Animas. The gang's all there: Martina, Venus, Estev, and Jacinto. They thank them all for agreeing to take such a risk in helping them rescue Lil. Estev tells them that Fr/Ed should be with Father Bosco by now and then if Bravo shows up as planned, he’ll call them all in one hour.
Eddie and Bosco walk out to the graveyard. Bosco admits to Ed that the grave is a fake. Bravo can dig all the way to China but he’ll come up empty. Once he realizes that, there’s no escaping him. Ed says that at that moment then, Eduardo Juarez is going to make his appearance. Bosco shakes his head in despair.
Back at Las Animas, the A-Team (looks more like AA with those ball caps and parkas) goes through the equipment: a lock pick, a portable sound amplifier, walkie-talkies, and a handgun with rubber bullets. (That’s right. This is a family friendly firearm--even though they could still shoot an eye or two out if they’re clumsy enough. Disclaimer Time Out for the kiddies and the emotionally retarded. Beanies off, class? PSA #J-654: Do not try this at home. Duh! If you ain’t been properly trained, then you’re just askin’ for trouble, y punto! Ok. Beanies back on everybody while I jump off my suds-box.) Estev asks if anyone has doubts at this point. Naturally, nobody backs out.
Ninja Night, 8 PM: At the parish church, Bosco takes Eduardo to a side room for him to hide from Bravo. He gives Eddie a rosary and tells him to pray. Suddenly it’s Maria Callas or some such blaring out operatic strains that nearly hide the sound of the doorbell ringing. (Seems that sound tech’s been tokin’ again.) Bravo has arrived. Bosco gives Ed his blessing and asks God to protect them both. He leaves to answer the door. Ed makes the call and tells Estev that it’s time. Operation Lili-pad is a go.
Eddie picks up the rosary. Bosco opens the door and lets Bravo in. The Mission Improbable Team springs into action as the disco-electrico beebops in the background and the screen splits into 2, 3 and even 4-way. So, it’s a tow-truck with a hydraulic lift and a basket from the Cable Guy.
(OMG! Timewarp alert!) Bond flick flashbacks! We’ve got Jaws Borja doing the digging for Hugo Dax Bravo. (Hubby and I can hardly wait for the steel to start glinting the second the guy opens his mouth.) Once the cadaver’s dug up, H.D. Bravo’s trusted eeevil Dr. Higadera will do the necessary tests on it for verification. Padre B. and Bravo’s baddies head outside to the grave.
Estev calls Eddie and tells him they’re on their way. Ed makes sure that Jacinto knows he’s not to take his eyes off Fer the entire time. He tells Estev then to figure on two hours to complete the operation. He hangs up and prays for their protection.
Jaws starts to dig but Bosco stops him and stalls for time by praying. He and Ed begin the Lord’s Prayer in stereo (well, it would have been if the sound editor had been sober at the time).
Outside Bravo’s manse, Fer and Jacinto sit in the yellow FJ as lookouts. She radios Santi to tell him if they don’t come out in an hour she’s going to call the police. Jacinto tells her not to worry because God and the virgencita will protect them and get them all out fine. In back of the manse, meanwhile, the rest of the gang gets into the lift basket. Estev’s no tow-truck operator, but he’s apparently spent a few nights at the Holiday Inn Express. He starts the lift and puts Martina, Santi and Venus up top without a hitch. Martina and Santi go inside. Venus stays out on the roof and waits to signal.
Inside the church, Eduardo bravely fights back the tears as he remembers the letter his mother wrote him (4/3/09 -cap. 34) warning him of the enemy she’d protected him from and reminding him she’d always be at his side, watching over him. At the same time, Fer remembers listening to the taped recording of Lili’s tearful, first interview with Obregon at the clinic when she revealed that it was Barbara Greco who had really killed their mother. “Jacinto, life has been so unfair to Lili.” ‘Cinto reminds her to trust in God and that soon it will be over. She covers her eyes and tells him she is anxious to make it up to her sis and fill her up with love. (Ok. Ok. I admit to pausing for a Kleenex moment here.) Marge, prays that the virgencita will protect them all and bring them back safe and sound. Most of all she prays that she will protect Eduardo from the merciless man who threatens him.
Santi and Martina begin to silently search upstairs for Lili’s room. Martina whispers that the place is so large it’ll be extremely difficult to find it. Fr/Ed calls Santi to see how things are progressing and says he’ll keep Bravo entertained while they continue looking.
Venus radios Estev that there’s still nothing. He tells her no news is good news and to stay calm. (Personally, I think she was just looking for an excuse to play a little with their new toys.) “Cambio y fuera! [Over and out!] ”
Borja gets tired of digging. Imaginary scissored steel sparkles as he tells Bravo that they’ve sent them to Hell and back digging and it’s long past time since they should have hit pay-dirt (so to speak) and that casket. Bravo signals to Bosco it’s time to ‘fess up [tener la palabra = speak up] cuz he smells a scam in the works. Bosco assures him there’s no deceit and that today is the day he will find Eduardo Juarez. Borja keeps digging. Ed keeps peeking out the window to check on Borja’s progress and gets antsier by the minute.
Back at the mansion, Santi says it’s strange that there doesn’t seem to be anyone there. Martina thinks it’s because they’ve already realized they are there and just want to catch them red-handed. Santi doesn’t agree because he says the alarms would have already gone off by now. Martina takes another look see and says she thinks she’s found Lili’s bedroom.
Meanwhile, Borja stops digging and concludes the gravesite is empty. (It took 7 feet worth of dirt to figure that one out?) Bravo tells Bosco he hopes the priest wasn’t stupid enough to try to fool him. Bosco says he is definitely right about that. “Priests are not that dumb. You don’t have me digging for oil, now do you? Tell me. Should Borja continue digging or not?” “—No! Not now. No.” Bosco throws his hands up in the air in frustration while inside Ed checks his watch and looks to the cross on the wall for answers. (Viewerville waits on pins and needles hoping the diosito is checking his messages this time.)
Upstairs at Bravo’s, Martina and Santi finally enter Lili’s room, but it appears to be empty. Martina finds one of Lili’s sweatshirts on the floor, but the rest of the room is empty. Santi realizes then that they’ve taken her and left. “She’s gone!” Martina weeps in frustration as Santiago immediately calls Fr/Ed to tell him the bad news.
Outside the digging stops and Bravo asks Bosco what they’re waiting for. “--To resolve your anxieties, Artemio, and I assure you that is what is going to happen here.” Bravo orders Borja to fill in the grave. “Are we leaving, Padre? There is nothing else here for us to do at this point.” Bosco tells him to wait. Bravo asks if he’s going to pray a bit more. “You can pray here for the rest of the night because you’re going to need those prayers.” Bosco asks what he means and Bravo wonders if he really needs him to explain. “You are very bold [osado], Padre for having agreed to meet me here just to open up an empty grave. But, I shouldn’t think we will waste the time. Why? Because now I haven’t the slightest doubt. I am absolutely certain that you have always known where Eduardo Juarez is!” (Viewerville bites its nails in angst.)
Suddenly Fr/Eduardo appears out of nowhere and yells over at Bravo. “Artemio! I have Eduardo Juarez!” (Good timing cuz Viewerville’s nails are now down to the quick.)
The M-I team is in a shambles. Operation Lili-pad’s a bust. Everyone is now out front yelling because Lili’s no longer at the mansion. Confusion is the name of this game. Fer and Santi are totally distraught. Fer frantically screams that Lili has to be inside and they just didn’t look hard enough. Martina explains to Fer that the house was totally empty, even the woman who guards Lili was gone, she says. Santi blocks her from entering and says somebody got there ahead of them because the room was messy and looked like Lili’s things were taken at the last minute. All they found was her sweatshirt. Venus thinks it was the guards because the whole house was completely abandoned. Estev asks if Fr/Ed was told and Santi says yes, he told him. They’re supposed to meet him back at Las Animas. Fer cries at the news. “Santi, how long is the fate of our family going to be in the hands of Artemio Bravo?” Santiago hugs her as she screams in frustration and hugs her sister’s sweatshirt.
Back at the gravesite, Fr/Ed tells Bravo that from now on if he wants Eduardo Juarez, he’ll have to deal with him. “--With you?” Bravo turns to Bosco and threatens him. “—This is going to cost you dearly, Padre, and you know what I’m referring to.” Fr/Ed yells back at him. “--Are you referring to Liliana Elizalde?” Bravo looks back over at Franco and raises a bushy brow as Fr/Ed gives a viable explanation. “It was I specifically who asked Padre Bosco to fake this grave because I have extremely formidable reasons to believe that YOU were the one deceiving us and that Liliana is dead!” “--So that’s what you think, Santoro?” Fr/Eddie stares him straight in the eyes. “—Do you have any proof to the contrary?” “—And what would I get in exchange?” “—What you so greatly desire: I will hand you over Eduardo Juarez. Yes. That’s right. I have him and you will have him in front of you the moment you prove to me that Liliana is alive.” (Heart palpatations. Whaddaman!)
Bravo cracks a slight smile and turns to go. “—Think it over well, Artemio!” Bravo barely turns before replying over his shoulder. “—I have nothing to think about.” He begins to walk away. Our boy Fr/Eddie yells back and ups the anti. “—I wouldn’t be so sure of that!” Bravo pauses but keeps his back to Santoro. “--No?” Fr/Eddie plays his high card. “--If you are declaring war against me, I will destroy your plans for revenge by handing over your mother’s diary to Gonzalo Elizalde!” Now he’s got Artie’s attention!
Speaking of Gonzo, he’s eating din-din alone at the hacienda. Tomasa comes in to tell him Pris is coming down. Pris sees the empty table and asks where all the others are. He says Babs is at one of her Association meetings and Fer hasn’t stopped at home all day. Gonzo thinks Fer is avoiding him because he asked her to withdraw the charges against Cad. She still hasn’t, though it’s high time she should have, he adds. (What is it about rape or assault and battery this grizzled old goat still doesn’t get? I just want to throw my hands up in the air and scream!) Pris avoids the obvious and mentions Anibal is off at the Dairy Industry Conference in Rio. Gonzo apologizes for completely forgetting, all things considered. She tries to comfort him and says things will get better for everyone soon. (Cue the violins.) He says that he’s come to think his family is falling to pieces. (Pinch me!) What hurts most is seeing his children suffering.
Back at the gravesite, Bravo starts a game of chicken. He threatens Santoro saying that all he has to do is give the order and he can fill that empty grave with his and Bosco’s bodies. Fr/Eddie counters and says he knows that perfectly well, but (in another classic and most satisfying Mexican standoff) he adds that Eduardo Juarez already has orders that if he does not return in a couple of hours, he’s to give that diary directly over to Gonzo. All he asks is proof that Lili Elizalde is alive. In exchange he’ll give him over Eduardo Juarez. Bravo asks if Juarez will be alive or dead. “--Alive.” Bravo accepts and suggests they go to his house immediately to prove to him that she’s perfectly fine. Fr/Ed agrees. Bosco looks at both of them like he’s ready to hang up his spiritual spurs. Bravo adds a condition that Santoro’s not allowed to leave until Eduardo Juarez is there in front of him. Fr/Ed says fine, but he’s got a condition of his own: the moment Eduardo Juarez appears, Liliana Elizalde is to be set free. Bravo accepts the deal.
At Las Animas, Fer has finally lost it. She pulls out her cell and starts screaming to Estev that she’s got to call Franco immediately and have him demand her sister back. Estev stops her at the last second and makes her realize that a single call can cost Franco his life. She joins the rest of the sullen group and they sit and wait, wait and sit, for some word from Fr/Ed.
Fr/Ed and Artie return to the manse to find it completely abandoned. Bravo wonders where his guards have all gone. He starts screaming for Hilda. Eduardo starts looking and yelling for Lili. Realizing Santiago was correct, Eduardo grabs Bravo by the collar and demands to know what Bravo has done with her. Bravo throws him off and yells back that he has no idea where she is. The two stand there huffing and puffing at each other.
At the summer house, Barbara is pleased as proverbial punch with herself as she pulls tape off Lili’s mouth. She literally has her eyes on the prize.
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Jardinera – thank you for the recap, awesome title, and great snarky asides.
If FrEd has a white bunny, he better hide it from Gardenia. I sitll don't trust her.
I hope Camilo rots in jail and continues to suffer. On many levels. Me da mucho asco.
If Bonzo could get the charges dropped by Fer, does he think Camilo will have learned his lesson? Does Bonzo even care, aside from what the neighbors must think? BAD Bonzo!
I guess the rent-a-crane came with a how-to video. Just sayin’. HOW were they going to get that past Artemio's guards?
Where were the guards? First time we have not seen them patrolling. Did Artemio give the SWAT team the night off? 'Off ya go boys; just be home by eleven.'
Could Fer's bright nuclear-waste-yellow SUV stand out in the dark any more??? Wasn't this supposed to be a covert operation?
Whoa! Babs pulled a fast one with Lili! Didn’t see that coming.
If FrEd has a white bunny, he better hide it from Gardenia. I sitll don't trust her.
I hope Camilo rots in jail and continues to suffer. On many levels. Me da mucho asco.
If Bonzo could get the charges dropped by Fer, does he think Camilo will have learned his lesson? Does Bonzo even care, aside from what the neighbors must think? BAD Bonzo!
I guess the rent-a-crane came with a how-to video. Just sayin’. HOW were they going to get that past Artemio's guards?
Where were the guards? First time we have not seen them patrolling. Did Artemio give the SWAT team the night off? 'Off ya go boys; just be home by eleven.'
Could Fer's bright nuclear-waste-yellow SUV stand out in the dark any more??? Wasn't this supposed to be a covert operation?
Whoa! Babs pulled a fast one with Lili! Didn’t see that coming.
Jardinera, muchas gracias por un recap maravilloso. The details really helped, and I love your snarky narration, like viewerville hoping the diosito is checking his messages this time.
Doris W., I loved your "BAD Bonzo!" And I too wondered where the guards were. Why would Artemio let them go now? Could Barbie have convinced them to go home for the night? Unlikely, even with my beanie fully adjusted. It's true that Barbie could have gained entrance to Artemio's lair even with the guards there, but I doubt they'd have let even Barbie walk off with Lili.
Well, we have the entire fin de semana to come up with some undoubtedly wrong conclusions.
Doris W., I loved your "BAD Bonzo!" And I too wondered where the guards were. Why would Artemio let them go now? Could Barbie have convinced them to go home for the night? Unlikely, even with my beanie fully adjusted. It's true that Barbie could have gained entrance to Artemio's lair even with the guards there, but I doubt they'd have let even Barbie walk off with Lili.
Well, we have the entire fin de semana to come up with some undoubtedly wrong conclusions.
Whew, Jardinera...you had me on the edge of my seat (haven't watched this yet) and I too didn't see the Barbara bait n switch coming.
Loved your quips....Ninja Night, MISSION IMPROBABLE (delicious) the Good Lord checking his messages and Bosco ready to "hang up his spiritual spurs". A fun read. Sometime this weekend, or maybe Monday, I'll get to watch the tape. Gotta get back to the Buckeye football game now...but thanks. Great recap.
Loved your quips....Ninja Night, MISSION IMPROBABLE (delicious) the Good Lord checking his messages and Bosco ready to "hang up his spiritual spurs". A fun read. Sometime this weekend, or maybe Monday, I'll get to watch the tape. Gotta get back to the Buckeye football game now...but thanks. Great recap.
Jardinera, thanks for a wonderful recap of a semi-rotten episode. "Mission Improbable" was on the mark. All that planning, all that action on the split screen, all that equipment rental spent for nothing. That was one of the most frustrating sessions in a basically frustrating TN.
Nice to see that the medicos didn't shave Esteve's head under that gauze. It looked all there under the cap.
I'm another surprised viewer who didn't see Barb's grab of Lili coming.
I felt like going outside and howling at the sky. All that anxiety for no results. Ya! Basta!
La Paloma
Nice to see that the medicos didn't shave Esteve's head under that gauze. It looked all there under the cap.
I'm another surprised viewer who didn't see Barb's grab of Lili coming.
I felt like going outside and howling at the sky. All that anxiety for no results. Ya! Basta!
La Paloma
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: Saturday, September 26, 2009 at 5:40:00 PM EDT
: Saturday, September 26, 2009 at 5:40:00 PM EDT
Tks Jardinera, loved spiritual spurs, ja ja ja
I never heard a n explanation as to where the guards were. Do they only patrol the front but Eswat came in the back?
ESwat has 7 people, tow trucks, cherry pickers & no Lili, but Babs grabs Lili with no help, gotta admire that Babs.
Fernanda wants to call the police because my Eswat's & I have just broken into a house!!!!!!!!
I know Lili is kidnapped, but still-----
And what has happened to Eva Braun, did Babs cajole her into taking the magic drops, probably muerte.
Good grief, Gonzo is worried about his children, he basically just disinherited them.
Everyone at Lactos has a meeting (Babs) & Anibal is off to Argentina. What is Gonzo's function in his company? oh, ok, I forgot, a little alzheimers for sure.
I never heard a n explanation as to where the guards were. Do they only patrol the front but Eswat came in the back?
ESwat has 7 people, tow trucks, cherry pickers & no Lili, but Babs grabs Lili with no help, gotta admire that Babs.
Fernanda wants to call the police because my Eswat's & I have just broken into a house!!!!!!!!
I know Lili is kidnapped, but still-----
And what has happened to Eva Braun, did Babs cajole her into taking the magic drops, probably muerte.
Good grief, Gonzo is worried about his children, he basically just disinherited them.
Everyone at Lactos has a meeting (Babs) & Anibal is off to Argentina. What is Gonzo's function in his company? oh, ok, I forgot, a little alzheimers for sure.
How could they have acted out that episode with straight faces?? I expected Quintana, with her clown lips, to rush in on her motorcar to save the day. Was this supposed to be comic relief?
Permalink posted by : Saturday, September 26, 2009 at 6:09:00 PM EDT
: Saturday, September 26, 2009 at 6:09:00 PM EDT
Thanks, Jardinera, for that LOL recap. I may be in the minority (or maybe all alone) here, but I really liked this episode. Yeah, the ESwat Team (good one!) looked a little silly, but I was on the edge of my seat for most of the show and was blindsided by Babs' grab of Lili. Also loved when Fr/Ed popped out of the trees to confront Artie.
Have absolutely no sympathy for Gonzo who only now is thinking about the suffering of his children. What?? Sure hope he gets off the Sleep Time drops before the end of the show and realizes a thing or two.
Have absolutely no sympathy for Gonzo who only now is thinking about the suffering of his children. What?? Sure hope he gets off the Sleep Time drops before the end of the show and realizes a thing or two.
Thanks for the recap Jardinera. Enjoyed your M-I reference and the links.
I'm with Doris, I still don't think Gardinera gets it.
Gonzo is such a mess. Fer is going to have to do a Columbo type reveal: play the tape, have Dr. O show up, introduce him to Bravo. Even with all that I still see Gonzo not believing. Perhaps Barb will take off the mask and frighten him into a heart attack.
Barb probably kidnapped Lil to make Fer give Aurora over to her.
Please Free Lil!!
I'm with Doris, I still don't think Gardinera gets it.
Gonzo is such a mess. Fer is going to have to do a Columbo type reveal: play the tape, have Dr. O show up, introduce him to Bravo. Even with all that I still see Gonzo not believing. Perhaps Barb will take off the mask and frighten him into a heart attack.
Barb probably kidnapped Lil to make Fer give Aurora over to her.
Please Free Lil!!
Thanks for the great recap. Count me in as another confused person regarding the absence of the guards at Artemio's mansion. Did Barbie kill them all and hide their bodies or something? She is evil AND smart! She made team "Save Lili" look like amateurs!
I agree with Doris about Fer's car. I was wondering about that too.
I agree with Doris about Fer's car. I was wondering about that too.
Permalink posted by : Saturday, September 26, 2009 at 6:31:00 PM EDT
: Saturday, September 26, 2009 at 6:31:00 PM EDT
P.S. for Connie et al --- did you catch the ad for Sortilegio? It had a William Levy .... shower scene!
Jardinera, great recap!! But I really couldn't take this event seriously. I had to laugh at their getups and how they were all sneaking around. I don't know how they didn't all break up laughing.
What I want to know, how did Barbie know to kidnap Lili tonite of all nites?? Did I miss something?? And how convenient for the guards not to be around...
But Jardinera thanks again for your thorough recap.
Ann-NYC
What I want to know, how did Barbie know to kidnap Lili tonite of all nites?? Did I miss something?? And how convenient for the guards not to be around...
But Jardinera thanks again for your thorough recap.
Ann-NYC
Permalink posted by : Saturday, September 26, 2009 at 6:56:00 PM EDT
: Saturday, September 26, 2009 at 6:56:00 PM EDT
Jardinera, excuse my question of how Barb knew about kidnapping lili the night of M-1 teams operation. I missed that paragraph by mistake and didn't comprehend it fully when Barb spoke with Artemio.
Ann-NYC
Ann-NYC
Permalink posted by : Saturday, September 26, 2009 at 7:10:00 PM EDT
: Saturday, September 26, 2009 at 7:10:00 PM EDT
Love the great recap Jardinera. I for one, think it was lucky no one was at the house. I didn't have a lot of faith in the AA Team. :) The only thing I can think of is that Barb did in the whole security team and Hilda (hey, she sure looked like a Hilda to me, who knew that was her name... but suppose it was mentioned sometime). Or, perhaps persuaded Hilda to send the security team away, tied Hilda up and kidnapped Lili? I can see ways she might convince them to let her take Hilda, but not why everyone was missing from the house.
I thought perhaps everyone had cleared out and the house was rigged to blow up. Artemio would say thanks for giving me Eduardo, go on into the house and take Lili home and then it would blow up.
Lucio and Jacobo together. I guess Dam isn't too smart as the thought of those two does not inspire any confidence for me. :)
Oh, was that doctor(?) going to validate the DNA right there or just make sure they gathered it correctly?
Nothing much getting resolved, still a ways to go.
JeffMN
I thought perhaps everyone had cleared out and the house was rigged to blow up. Artemio would say thanks for giving me Eduardo, go on into the house and take Lili home and then it would blow up.
Lucio and Jacobo together. I guess Dam isn't too smart as the thought of those two does not inspire any confidence for me. :)
Oh, was that doctor(?) going to validate the DNA right there or just make sure they gathered it correctly?
Nothing much getting resolved, still a ways to go.
JeffMN
Permalink posted by : Saturday, September 26, 2009 at 7:24:00 PM EDT
: Saturday, September 26, 2009 at 7:24:00 PM EDT
Holy heartbreak, Batman! Looks like Lili's white queen is going to be in play all the way to checkmate. And, nope, I didn't think about Barb as the kidnapper till the next to last scene in the mansion. Red flags about La Barbie should have gone up for me after she used the Association ploy again, but they didn't! I didn't see the question about what Bravo's plans were for the night as being important either and I thought the drops were for Fernanda. Barb must have known enough about Bravo's security operation to know exactly what to tell them to get them out of the way for the night and probably for a couple of days. Without his security team he's completely vulnerable. She can kill him and probably fill the tub with lie and dissolve the sorry SOB. Also hubby reminded me that the properties couldn't have really been put into Bravo's name so that means another part of the venganza has been put into play now.
Thank you for a thorough and funny recap, Jardinera! I have a couple of questions: Did anyone else notice that one of the ladies was wearing ridiculously high heels when the MI team was running out of Las Animas? How could she run like that!!!! Also, was anyone else reminded of the Brady Bunch intro when they were splitting the screen? Especially when Padre Bosco and Artemio were looking at each other from their frames!!
Serena
Serena
Permalink posted by : Saturday, September 26, 2009 at 8:26:00 PM EDT
: Saturday, September 26, 2009 at 8:26:00 PM EDT
Nice recap Jardinera.
Did I imagine this or did Steve not call Fr/Ed Eduardo when they were talking on their cells while Steve was in the tow truck with Venus, Martina and SANTI?
Did I imagine this or did Steve not call Fr/Ed Eduardo when they were talking on their cells while Steve was in the tow truck with Venus, Martina and SANTI?
Permalink posted by : Saturday, September 26, 2009 at 8:44:00 PM EDT
: Saturday, September 26, 2009 at 8:44:00 PM EDT
Anybody remember MST3K? Between the split screens and the weird '60's theme and the early Bond flashbacks, there was enough corn poppin' in my living room to put Orville Redenbacher to shame.
Anonymous - you're right, Steve did call him Eduardo. Here it is:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0rSXM2XI5I&feature=related
at 5:30 into the video.
I guess Estif had too many layers of foil under his hat.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0rSXM2XI5I&feature=related
at 5:30 into the video.
I guess Estif had too many layers of foil under his hat.
Thanks, Jardinera. I have to keep reminding myself '' suspend disbelief...suspend disbelief.'' This plot is wacky. So...Barbie now has Lili which might be better than Art having her because Barbie will be more than happy to negotiate a trade for Aurora. Meanwhile back in the jungle, Lucio and Jacobo are going to try to get Aurora. The web is getting more and more tangled.....I need some pirates.
Permalink posted by : Saturday, September 26, 2009 at 9:43:00 PM EDT
: Saturday, September 26, 2009 at 9:43:00 PM EDT
Jardinera, I loved MST3K. So funny, and a Sat. morning bonding experience with my son.
La Paloma
La Paloma
Permalink posted by : Saturday, September 26, 2009 at 9:54:00 PM EDT
: Saturday, September 26, 2009 at 9:54:00 PM EDT
Jardenera, does it get any better than this, a Ballentine's with water and ice, a quiet night, and the weekly words of la Jardinera? I think not.
I thought our ninjas were darling. The precious little girly pistols they sported sort of set the tone for the mission. As a hands-on Mr. Phelps, Esteve was especially adorable. One quibble, he could have turned the bill to the back for a more au courant gringoso effect.
Carlos
I thought our ninjas were darling. The precious little girly pistols they sported sort of set the tone for the mission. As a hands-on Mr. Phelps, Esteve was especially adorable. One quibble, he could have turned the bill to the back for a more au courant gringoso effect.
Carlos
Thank you Jardinera for a very entertaining recap. I love your title and all your mocking side-comments.
one thing that was running through my brain as Fr/Ed and Artemio were arguing about Ed and Lili was: Red Rover Red Rover send Lili right over. As long as you send Eduardo over here also.
I was totally stunned myself when it was the Hyena that kidnapped Lili, right under both Fr/Ed and Don Artemio's noses.
Jody :)
one thing that was running through my brain as Fr/Ed and Artemio were arguing about Ed and Lili was: Red Rover Red Rover send Lili right over. As long as you send Eduardo over here also.
I was totally stunned myself when it was the Hyena that kidnapped Lili, right under both Fr/Ed and Don Artemio's noses.
Jody :)
Thanks for the fun recap Jardinera! This episode didn't remind me as much of Mission Impossible as it did of this show:
Fred did an awesome job running the controls of the modified Mystery Machine! Shaggy, Velma and Daphne did their best to find Lili, while Scoobey and Fernanda kept an eye out for the creepy old owner of the castle. Ruh, Roh! What's this?? No guards? No alarms? No Eva Braun? NO LILI?? Noooooooo! Why didn't we see this coming??
Fred did an awesome job running the controls of the modified Mystery Machine! Shaggy, Velma and Daphne did their best to find Lili, while Scoobey and Fernanda kept an eye out for the creepy old owner of the castle. Ruh, Roh! What's this?? No guards? No alarms? No Eva Braun? NO LILI?? Noooooooo! Why didn't we see this coming??
Jardinera excellent recap!
It was a pretty suspenseful episode. I was both biting my nails and laughing at the "AA" team.
All in black, women with heels, one tiny gun, cell phones, walkie talkies AND headsets, tow truck with crane, bright yellow SUV ! WOW!
Barbie might be crazy but she's still smarter then the rest of them amateurs!
I also thought it funny the Doctor was wearing his white lab coat to the cemetary and the "digger" spent the first 15 minutes using an ax in the dirt instead of a shovel.AND the poor guy had to put all the dirt back!
Other than that...I totally agree with La Paloma's comment: "I felt like going outside and howling at the sky. All that anxiety for no results." Perfect!
It was a pretty suspenseful episode. I was both biting my nails and laughing at the "AA" team.
All in black, women with heels, one tiny gun, cell phones, walkie talkies AND headsets, tow truck with crane, bright yellow SUV ! WOW!
Barbie might be crazy but she's still smarter then the rest of them amateurs!
I also thought it funny the Doctor was wearing his white lab coat to the cemetary and the "digger" spent the first 15 minutes using an ax in the dirt instead of a shovel.AND the poor guy had to put all the dirt back!
Other than that...I totally agree with La Paloma's comment: "I felt like going outside and howling at the sky. All that anxiety for no results." Perfect!
Permalink posted by : Sunday, September 27, 2009 at 2:31:00 AM EDT
: Sunday, September 27, 2009 at 2:31:00 AM EDT
Oops! That should be lye, not lie, but the more Spanish I pump into my noggin' the worse my spelling in the use of homonyms becomes.
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La Paloma: Ditto with Hubby and my brood. The first 2/3 of Friday's episodio could only have been watched with MST3K in mind.
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Karen: Wow, after Bond and M-I, I like the idea of Colombo being worked into the mix. Makes me wonder what kind of act AnyBalls is dreaming up. I sort of wonder if he and Babs fooled around while he was in college, sort of like The Graduate. That would account for that horndog look he gave Babs a while back and his attitude towards marriage, not to mention his saying he's going to make his father see her as unfaithful.
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Doris: That yellow FJ on the corner did stick out like a flashing yellow traffic light. Estev could have at least rented a black CRV for her to use that night. (Insert 1 snicker, and 2 eye rolls)
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La Paloma: Ditto with Hubby and my brood. The first 2/3 of Friday's episodio could only have been watched with MST3K in mind.
? 8 > )
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Karen: Wow, after Bond and M-I, I like the idea of Colombo being worked into the mix. Makes me wonder what kind of act AnyBalls is dreaming up. I sort of wonder if he and Babs fooled around while he was in college, sort of like The Graduate. That would account for that horndog look he gave Babs a while back and his attitude towards marriage, not to mention his saying he's going to make his father see her as unfaithful.
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Doris: That yellow FJ on the corner did stick out like a flashing yellow traffic light. Estev could have at least rented a black CRV for her to use that night. (Insert 1 snicker, and 2 eye rolls)
Bonus question: Does Venus know Eduardo's true identity yet? That's the only way that flub using his name in the truck cab should have gotten past editing.
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Variopinta: ESwat!! LOL! That's a keeper.
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HGR/JudyB: You're right. In the end, the writers did what they got paid to do and blindsided us all. I'll give 'em their props for that.
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Ann NYC - Dress rehearsals for this one had to be a gas. Total camp.
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Variopinta: ESwat!! LOL! That's a keeper.
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HGR/JudyB: You're right. In the end, the writers did what they got paid to do and blindsided us all. I'll give 'em their props for that.
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Ann NYC - Dress rehearsals for this one had to be a gas. Total camp.
I guess the drops were or are for Lili. I can't see Fernanda falling for the warm milk ploy.
Where does Babs have Lili stashed?
Anyone notice when the digger started to cover the grave up, how hard the dirt was & he had just dug it up?
Doesn't it take several wks get get DNA test results?
Where does Babs have Lili stashed?
Anyone notice when the digger started to cover the grave up, how hard the dirt was & he had just dug it up?
Doesn't it take several wks get get DNA test results?
I think Venus knows Franco is Eduardo but can't remember at what point. Of the ESwat team, I think the only ones that don't know are Fernanda & Santiago.
Variopinta -- it looked to me like Barbie took Lili to the family's "Casa de Campo" (the family's house in the woods).
Jody :)
Jody :)
Juanita: Yup. Might as well give us your best guess.
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JeffMN: DNA test results in seconds. You and I were tracking on that one.
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Susanlynn: Errol Flynn could never do anything that didn't call for tights and a sword, either. FC's definitely been typed as an action hero, but it's because he does it sooooooo well, YUM! Pirates or posse's --I'm game!! Bring it!! ===========
Xint/Anon. - Brady Bunch, definitely --and Scooby Do. That's who Santi's been reminding me of all this time....Shaggy!
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Jodie: Red rover, Red rover, send Fr/Ed for a roll in the clover!
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Elle/Anon: didn't catch the heels. I double checked Venus for them and Martina at the time cuz I thought I'd heard heels. Too late at night. Had to be Fer?
Barb is no amateur, and she's as creepy crazy as they get. She continues to get the drop on these guys every time. Luhhhv those kind of vile victimizers!!!!!
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Carlos: Mine was a peach zin from the locals, but extremely potent as adult bacchanal beverages go. Indigenous shaymans might use peyote. Guess I'll stick to peach zin. Don't know that it's any safer, but at least it's still legal. ; > )
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JeffMN: DNA test results in seconds. You and I were tracking on that one.
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Susanlynn: Errol Flynn could never do anything that didn't call for tights and a sword, either. FC's definitely been typed as an action hero, but it's because he does it sooooooo well, YUM! Pirates or posse's --I'm game!! Bring it!! ===========
Xint/Anon. - Brady Bunch, definitely --and Scooby Do. That's who Santi's been reminding me of all this time....Shaggy!
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Jodie: Red rover, Red rover, send Fr/Ed for a roll in the clover!
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Elle/Anon: didn't catch the heels. I double checked Venus for them and Martina at the time cuz I thought I'd heard heels. Too late at night. Had to be Fer?
Barb is no amateur, and she's as creepy crazy as they get. She continues to get the drop on these guys every time. Luhhhv those kind of vile victimizers!!!!!
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Carlos: Mine was a peach zin from the locals, but extremely potent as adult bacchanal beverages go. Indigenous shaymans might use peyote. Guess I'll stick to peach zin. Don't know that it's any safer, but at least it's still legal. ; > )
I don't think Venus or Martina know that Franco is Eduardo, and even if they did Steve shouldn't have said "Eduardo" in front of Santi.
It's perfectly possible that Anibal had a fling with Barbie...they're pretty much the same age. He was going off to college in 1992 when the show started...17 years later (2009) he would be 35, 36 years old. Aurora said she was 23, so if Barbie had her at 15, Barbie is 38.
I wonder if Anibal has ever loved anymore more than himself, and I'm still laughing about him selling Camilo's horse.
It's perfectly possible that Anibal had a fling with Barbie...they're pretty much the same age. He was going off to college in 1992 when the show started...17 years later (2009) he would be 35, 36 years old. Aurora said she was 23, so if Barbie had her at 15, Barbie is 38.
I wonder if Anibal has ever loved anymore more than himself, and I'm still laughing about him selling Camilo's horse.
Permalink posted by : Sunday, September 27, 2009 at 10:33:00 AM EDT
: Sunday, September 27, 2009 at 10:33:00 AM EDT
Martina definitely knows FrEd's true identity.
When Artemio first wanted verification of Eduardo's death, didn't Babs go with Padre Bosco to the Elizalde crypt, where Soledad's cremains are? Didn't Padre B. tell Babs that Ed's cremains are in there with Soledad. Vaya! that was so many months ago. Maybe she never told Artemio where Ed was buried ..... how conveeeeenient.
AND . . what was up with the grave sign that said Eduardo J.C. ? Is that an anonymity thing? They don't put the last name? I thought it was muy hokey.
(finally signed in under my usual identity here .....)
When Artemio first wanted verification of Eduardo's death, didn't Babs go with Padre Bosco to the Elizalde crypt, where Soledad's cremains are? Didn't Padre B. tell Babs that Ed's cremains are in there with Soledad. Vaya! that was so many months ago. Maybe she never told Artemio where Ed was buried ..... how conveeeeenient.
AND . . what was up with the grave sign that said Eduardo J.C. ? Is that an anonymity thing? They don't put the last name? I thought it was muy hokey.
(finally signed in under my usual identity here .....)
Oops! Anon. you're right. I went back to see the tape and I mistakenly thought Jacinto was in the truck rather than Santi.
Jardinera...thanks for the song reference and the link, It's amazing what people put on youtube!
Now I know what Lucio meant about the "ugly doll".
Now I know what Lucio meant about the "ugly doll".
Permalink posted by : Sunday, September 27, 2009 at 12:04:00 PM EDT
: Sunday, September 27, 2009 at 12:04:00 PM EDT
I thought the grave marker was hokey too. Wouldn't an "anonymous" grave have "Unknown" or "Child of God" written on the marker?
Now that she's crossed Artemio and taken Lili, everyone is after Evil Barbie. The real question is, who's going to get to her first?
Now that she's crossed Artemio and taken Lili, everyone is after Evil Barbie. The real question is, who's going to get to her first?
Jardinera,
Thanks for the fantastic recap. I always enjoy your wit, detail and info. Looks like this novela is going to leave a lot of dangling parts, participles and more...
jb
Thanks for the fantastic recap. I always enjoy your wit, detail and info. Looks like this novela is going to leave a lot of dangling parts, participles and more...
jb
Permalink posted by : Sunday, September 27, 2009 at 12:42:00 PM EDT
: Sunday, September 27, 2009 at 12:42:00 PM EDT
Jardinera, thank you once again for a witty recap. You are one of my favorite recappers. Your comments are always in fun, never mean spirited.
I think the question is "Who is Barbi going to get next". She is one goal oriented lady.
rsk
I think the question is "Who is Barbi going to get next". She is one goal oriented lady.
rsk
Permalink posted by : Sunday, September 27, 2009 at 1:16:00 PM EDT
: Sunday, September 27, 2009 at 1:16:00 PM EDT
In the avances, we see someone with blue pantalones, my guess is Lucio. Now what do you think his chances are of getting the best of Babs? Besides, our hero has to do that, can't wait to see how.
12 episodes to go.
12 episodes to go.
Variopinta... would only be 7 hours left, 5 this week and then what I think is 2 hours on Monday, Oct 5. Time is flying... just one week and a Lunes.
JeffMN
JeffMN
Permalink posted by : Sunday, September 27, 2009 at 2:26:00 PM EDT
: Sunday, September 27, 2009 at 2:26:00 PM EDT
Just checked the program lineup, MEPS is on until 11:00 Oct 5th, Cristina is on Tues night after Sortilegio.
I just looked at the Oct 5th lineup again, MEPS starts at 8:00 & runs 'til 11:00, so it is 3 hours, wow
Jardinera,
"From the looks of it, he has apparently heard about those group showers....." really funny, an inside joke for all of us Caray, Caray posters!!! Hilarious recap as usual, thanks!
What is interesting about this novela is that both AB and Ed/Fr hate the Elizaldes and all their actions are motivated by revenge for what was done to their mothers. I wonder why AB wants to harm Eduardo, he was a child/youth when he left Mexico. They should sit down with a shot of tequila and talk, they have a lot in common, both mothers were victims of the Elizaldes....
Also, Franco looked like the FC of old as he challenged AB at the grave site. Where has that FC been for lo these many weeks?
Sandy in TN
"From the looks of it, he has apparently heard about those group showers....." really funny, an inside joke for all of us Caray, Caray posters!!! Hilarious recap as usual, thanks!
What is interesting about this novela is that both AB and Ed/Fr hate the Elizaldes and all their actions are motivated by revenge for what was done to their mothers. I wonder why AB wants to harm Eduardo, he was a child/youth when he left Mexico. They should sit down with a shot of tequila and talk, they have a lot in common, both mothers were victims of the Elizaldes....
Also, Franco looked like the FC of old as he challenged AB at the grave site. Where has that FC been for lo these many weeks?
Sandy in TN
Permalink posted by : Sunday, September 27, 2009 at 4:49:00 PM EDT
: Sunday, September 27, 2009 at 4:49:00 PM EDT
Sandy~~`I think that our heroic FC of old has been held hostage by the writers and director of this novela. I am hoping that he returns to us completely in his next novela....please. In the meantime. I have to watch Amor Real or Alborada to remind myself what a terrific galan he is and why I got hooked on these telenovelas in the first place.
Permalink posted by : Sunday, September 27, 2009 at 5:12:00 PM EDT
: Sunday, September 27, 2009 at 5:12:00 PM EDT
Greetings one and all from Nickster. He's a freshman at the Ohio State University, Honors Program, and we had lunch today and checked out the big Mexican grocery story and restaurant on the Northeast side of town. He wanted me to say "hi" to all of you and he misses the crazy days of recapping FELS but the actual plot line...not so much.
Yes Susanlynn, a hostage situation, well put.... we'll just have to wait for a better "vehicle" for FC.
Sortilegio is beginning to look interesting to me, but maybe I'm just grasping after MEPS.
Sandy in Tn
Sortilegio is beginning to look interesting to me, but maybe I'm just grasping after MEPS.
Sandy in Tn
Permalink posted by : Sunday, September 27, 2009 at 6:21:00 PM EDT
: Sunday, September 27, 2009 at 6:21:00 PM EDT
Sandy~~~I'm going to try Sortilegio because I love Marcelo Cordoba and Carla Estrada. Hope it isn't too wacky.
Permalink posted by : Sunday, September 27, 2009 at 6:30:00 PM EDT
: Sunday, September 27, 2009 at 6:30:00 PM EDT
Jardinera, Thanks for a great recap. My taped episode had jumbled gobbledygook for captions and I appreciate the clarifications on several points. Also, "Operation Lili-pad"--loved that.
Aggravating that they didn't get Lili. Babs surprised me too. I prefer Babs outsmarting everyone to AB having moved Lili though.
Barbara
Aggravating that they didn't get Lili. Babs surprised me too. I prefer Babs outsmarting everyone to AB having moved Lili though.
Barbara
Permalink posted by : Sunday, September 27, 2009 at 6:41:00 PM EDT
: Sunday, September 27, 2009 at 6:41:00 PM EDT
Another GREAT recap, Jardinera. Busy weekend so really late to the commenters' party.
I'm pretty sure Venus, as well as Martina are in on Eduardo's real identity. I think it came up when they were living with Lili in the condo Fr/Ed arranged.
One thing I noticed, and I think it's likely that it was on purpose. During the caper Estev made a LOT of grammatical errors in Spanish - su instead of suya and other ones that I noticed at the time. I think this was meant to how how nervous he was. I think my Spanish grammar would fail me also trying to go up against what they thought would be AB's goons.
I'm pretty sure Venus, as well as Martina are in on Eduardo's real identity. I think it came up when they were living with Lili in the condo Fr/Ed arranged.
One thing I noticed, and I think it's likely that it was on purpose. During the caper Estev made a LOT of grammatical errors in Spanish - su instead of suya and other ones that I noticed at the time. I think this was meant to how how nervous he was. I think my Spanish grammar would fail me also trying to go up against what they thought would be AB's goons.
Permalink posted by : Sunday, September 27, 2009 at 6:43:00 PM EDT
: Sunday, September 27, 2009 at 6:43:00 PM EDT
jb: Ooooo! As a matter of fact, I'm hoping somebody keeps track of what's left of those dangling whatsits and whosits this finale time. ; > ) The writers should have to pass the Caray test of loose ends.
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rsk: You pay the Caray recappers the ultimate compliment when you say that, so thanks!
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SandyTN: Bravo's and Eduardo's confrontation may have an eye-opening surprise. I am wondering why Barbara says Eduardo is actually so powerful. Maybe it is the diary, but maybe there is still one more secret we haven't guessed yet. Bravo took his wretched need for revenge out on Sole and on Eduardo both in order to maintain his identity as a secret.
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Barbara: Barbara's always being one step ahead is probably the best part of this novela. We never see it coming with her.
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Serena: I had you as an anon. with Xint. Sorry! I grew up during the Brady Bunch's original run and I'm just as dated, too!
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Novelera: I had noticed his grammar getting worse since his accident also and wondered why. Your reason is as good as any. I thought it was MIM just trying a different way to remind us that he's foreign. Dunno. Good catch, though!
Sun Sep 27, 09:06:00 PM EDT
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rsk: You pay the Caray recappers the ultimate compliment when you say that, so thanks!
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SandyTN: Bravo's and Eduardo's confrontation may have an eye-opening surprise. I am wondering why Barbara says Eduardo is actually so powerful. Maybe it is the diary, but maybe there is still one more secret we haven't guessed yet. Bravo took his wretched need for revenge out on Sole and on Eduardo both in order to maintain his identity as a secret.
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Barbara: Barbara's always being one step ahead is probably the best part of this novela. We never see it coming with her.
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Serena: I had you as an anon. with Xint. Sorry! I grew up during the Brady Bunch's original run and I'm just as dated, too!
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Novelera: I had noticed his grammar getting worse since his accident also and wondered why. Your reason is as good as any. I thought it was MIM just trying a different way to remind us that he's foreign. Dunno. Good catch, though!
Sun Sep 27, 09:06:00 PM EDT
I still think there is one BIG secret that hasn't been revealed and that secret is *why* Evil Barbie keeps saying Eduardo will have absolute power over Artemio Bravo (she knows what it is.) That secret is also why AB had to get Eduardo out of the way to begin with and why he now wants to be sure Eduardo is dead (thus the insistence on DNA tests on "Eduardo's body"). My personal feeling is that it has to do with Eduardo's father.
Hmmm..so who could Eduardo's father be that would make Ed so powerful? Did miserable Grandpa Jeronimo turn his attentions to Soledad ? Is Jerry Ed's dad? That would make him halfbrother to Gonzo and Art. If that's the case, Fer must be adopted because we know that the two lovebirds must be united at the end.
Permalink posted by : Monday, September 28, 2009 at 7:44:00 AM EDT
: Monday, September 28, 2009 at 7:44:00 AM EDT
Oy, I missed a humdinger, didn't I? Muchisimas gracias, Jardinera, for your recap & snarkisms. Sounded like one of those episodes where you really needed a full-functioning beanie.
Sneaky Babs. Not surprised she one-upped the Lucio/Jacobo team. Artie must have had steam coming out of his ears when he got home that night.
Sorry I missed Fr/Ed acting the part of Action Hero.
Free Lili!
Maggarita
Sneaky Babs. Not surprised she one-upped the Lucio/Jacobo team. Artie must have had steam coming out of his ears when he got home that night.
Sorry I missed Fr/Ed acting the part of Action Hero.
Free Lili!
Maggarita
Permalink posted by : Monday, September 28, 2009 at 7:53:00 AM EDT
: Monday, September 28, 2009 at 7:53:00 AM EDT
If this were a US drama, the big reveal would have something to do with money. AB is very wealthy for some unexplained reason. Eduardo has little or no money, what he is spending is really Lili's. AB HATES Eduardo, is it because in some way, AB's money is really Eduardo's. I might be tilting at windmills here, but audiences love a RICH good looking hero. The whole mother/father/brother/cousin, once,twice removed is getting old and VERY confusing, we need a fresh surprise!
Sandy in TN
Sandy in TN
Permalink posted by : Monday, September 28, 2009 at 8:15:00 AM EDT
: Monday, September 28, 2009 at 8:15:00 AM EDT
Maggie: Here's the YouTube link to the full episodio if you have a chance and want to watch without CC. 158A-E.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZkVW6pJZ2xQ&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZkVW6pJZ2xQ&feature=related
Thanks for the recap Jardinera. You made it much more interesting than it was. So many great comments.
I noticed the heels too. I think it was Venus.
Didn't Fr/Ed look yummy in his long black coat?
I missed a shower scene? Ack--gives me something to look forward to with Sortilegio.
I'm betting that Barbie shot Hilda but not sure about the guards. Why would they leave just becaus Babs says so.
So the doorbell was on TV. I wish someone would tell my dogs that! They ran around barking and barking and I couldn't hear a thing. Rain just looked confused and Storm looked at me like "my bad" and then got on the couch and took a nap.
I noticed the heels too. I think it was Venus.
Didn't Fr/Ed look yummy in his long black coat?
I missed a shower scene? Ack--gives me something to look forward to with Sortilegio.
I'm betting that Barbie shot Hilda but not sure about the guards. Why would they leave just becaus Babs says so.
So the doorbell was on TV. I wish someone would tell my dogs that! They ran around barking and barking and I couldn't hear a thing. Rain just looked confused and Storm looked at me like "my bad" and then got on the couch and took a nap.
I'm just trying to make some connections here, 'cause I'm sure there is sth else also.
Would you say Ana Gregoria was about 15 when she had Artemio (15 seems to be the magical abuse age in this TN).
I'm thinking Soledad was 10 or 12 at the time she found the birth certificate. Gonzo was in Europe in school but we didn't hear how old he was at the time.
So I don't think Soledad & Artemio got it on & therefore Art is NOT Eduardo's papá.
Why haven't we heard much about Eduardo's papá? Soledad had his picture, he supposedly died when Ed was very small, sb said his name was Ramon I think. There MUST be sth there. We haven't heard how he died. Soledad refers to some evil in her letter that Eduardo doesn't know about & that he is in danger. Artemio thinks Eduardo knows more than he actually does.
We still have about 6 more characters to be introduced.
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Did they just use the hunk Miguel to stretch out a few episodes, never to be seen again?
Would you say Ana Gregoria was about 15 when she had Artemio (15 seems to be the magical abuse age in this TN).
I'm thinking Soledad was 10 or 12 at the time she found the birth certificate. Gonzo was in Europe in school but we didn't hear how old he was at the time.
So I don't think Soledad & Artemio got it on & therefore Art is NOT Eduardo's papá.
Why haven't we heard much about Eduardo's papá? Soledad had his picture, he supposedly died when Ed was very small, sb said his name was Ramon I think. There MUST be sth there. We haven't heard how he died. Soledad refers to some evil in her letter that Eduardo doesn't know about & that he is in danger. Artemio thinks Eduardo knows more than he actually does.
We still have about 6 more characters to be introduced.
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Did they just use the hunk Miguel to stretch out a few episodes, never to be seen again?
about DNA... you need a sample to compare it to! and what sample would that be? how would AB have any sample from Eduardo to compare it to?
i too can't get the motivation for AB's animus against eduardo. if it was just eduardo knowing his real identity, why wouldn't AB be equally ready to do in Franco, who knows his identity because of the diary...
carolina
i too can't get the motivation for AB's animus against eduardo. if it was just eduardo knowing his real identity, why wouldn't AB be equally ready to do in Franco, who knows his identity because of the diary...
carolina
Permalink posted by : Monday, September 28, 2009 at 10:19:00 AM EDT
: Monday, September 28, 2009 at 10:19:00 AM EDT
Do we know anything about Eduardo's father? Maybe he and Artemo had some kind of connection. I can't even imagine what it could be though.
Good point Carolina, Soledad was cremated. Can you get DNA from ashes?
Now who is Art going to compare the DNA to? Of course, it could be just another beanie moment & writer's block.
Now who is Art going to compare the DNA to? Of course, it could be just another beanie moment & writer's block.
Wow, this is getting interesting! Thanks for the very funny recap, and all the comments and speculations about where all this is going, esp. regarding possiible secrets yet to be revealed!
There was some discussion the other day about how relatively crummy this novela has been versus US shows and other novelas. My two cents: this has been a lot of fun and has moved along pretty well esp. when compared to FELS.
Also, I think Telenovelas are their own art form with their own unique style and conventions, as strange and sometimes amateur, over the top, or even campy as they seem to us compared to US dramas.
They are broadly written and acted, meant to appeal to a wide audinece that may not be following every word like we are.
This is melodrama, which goes back to earlier dramatic forms with stock characters and stock plots that are easliy read, tell us what we already know, and appeal over and over again.
We are scrutinizing these shows in a way that the family getting dinner on the table, or the shopkeeper with the tv in the background isn't. So I'm not sure the comparison is fair. I love these crazy things!
Okay, off my soabox.
There was some discussion the other day about how relatively crummy this novela has been versus US shows and other novelas. My two cents: this has been a lot of fun and has moved along pretty well esp. when compared to FELS.
Also, I think Telenovelas are their own art form with their own unique style and conventions, as strange and sometimes amateur, over the top, or even campy as they seem to us compared to US dramas.
They are broadly written and acted, meant to appeal to a wide audinece that may not be following every word like we are.
This is melodrama, which goes back to earlier dramatic forms with stock characters and stock plots that are easliy read, tell us what we already know, and appeal over and over again.
We are scrutinizing these shows in a way that the family getting dinner on the table, or the shopkeeper with the tv in the background isn't. So I'm not sure the comparison is fair. I love these crazy things!
Okay, off my soabox.
Maybe Ramon Cruz was Ana Gregoria's brother or something and Eduardo is related to Artemio through Ana Gregoria's side of the family or something.
Permalink posted by : Monday, September 28, 2009 at 1:07:00 PM EDT
: Monday, September 28, 2009 at 1:07:00 PM EDT
AB asked Padre Bosco about the grave of Fr/ed's father. I assumed he was going to dig up a sample to match with Ed's.
Jewels
Jewels
Permalink posted by : Monday, September 28, 2009 at 1:08:00 PM EDT
: Monday, September 28, 2009 at 1:08:00 PM EDT
Good catch jewels, I didn't understand that.
IMO the novelas are far superior to the soaps. How can anything be interesting after 72 years? I only watch the novelas that come on at 9PM & I have a feeling they are better than the daytime novelas. Watched Desperate Housewives last night, that I think is equal to a novela but it's been on too many years & I'm a little tired of it. Probably will be it's last year. Best scene of all, Gaby mowing the lawn in the beautiful green gown.
IMO the novelas are far superior to the soaps. How can anything be interesting after 72 years? I only watch the novelas that come on at 9PM & I have a feeling they are better than the daytime novelas. Watched Desperate Housewives last night, that I think is equal to a novela but it's been on too many years & I'm a little tired of it. Probably will be it's last year. Best scene of all, Gaby mowing the lawn in the beautiful green gown.
Jardinera great recap! I always love your style and how committed you are to details.
I'd recommend everybody not to miss tonights episode.
I've catched a daytime soap once years ago. It was odd because one of the characteres was possessed by the devil, but it was fun. However one good thing about novelas is that they are finished in a few months and if you didn't like it another one will come that will probably be better, and sometimes there comes one that is just SO good and you end up loving it.
Jarocha
I'd recommend everybody not to miss tonights episode.
I've catched a daytime soap once years ago. It was odd because one of the characteres was possessed by the devil, but it was fun. However one good thing about novelas is that they are finished in a few months and if you didn't like it another one will come that will probably be better, and sometimes there comes one that is just SO good and you end up loving it.
Jarocha
Permalink posted by : Monday, September 28, 2009 at 1:57:00 PM EDT
: Monday, September 28, 2009 at 1:57:00 PM EDT
Does anyone know if the episodes for Sortilegio are going to be 1/2 hour segments like the beginning of MEPS? I found that to be confusing when trying to find episodes on YouTube. So Mexico watched 1/2 hour episodes and we got an hour thereby doing 2 episodes in one night.
These things are addictive aren't they?
My brother has an on-line girlfriend who lives in Puebla and I asked her if she watched telenovelas. She said those were for old people. So, I guess I'm old.
These things are addictive aren't they?
My brother has an on-line girlfriend who lives in Puebla and I asked her if she watched telenovelas. She said those were for old people. So, I guess I'm old.
I'm another one who was taken by surprise by Babs having Lili. I had figured that Ms. Braun had simply taken Lili out for a haircut or something.
As for Venus in the high heels, I figure if anyone can run in them, it's her. Heh, she probably doesn't know how to run in anything else!
As for Venus in the high heels, I figure if anyone can run in them, it's her. Heh, she probably doesn't know how to run in anything else!
Sortilegio had half an hour episodes also. This is a way Televisa hooks the viewers to the new novelas at the 9 pm hour. This is the most important hour for them (the most expensive) so they do what they can to keep the viewers. They don't do that with the novelas showing in other hours because the price for commercials on those is more or less the same. It might change depending on ratings but it is never as high as the 9 pm slot. This is not a reflection on the quality because there have been many cases were the novela at 5 pm or 6 pm is much better, it's just a case of the producer and actors being more famous and/or having had more success with previous projects. There's been cases like Cañaveral de Pasiones where that novela started at 5 pm and thanks to its huge success was moved to the 9 pm slot and they had to change all the schedule to make it fit because the novela they took from that hour was still not over. Then there was La Mentira also at 5 pm, and they wanted to do the same but the producers fought to stay at that slot claiming that they didn't want to risk losing their loyal viewers. Also, Mi Pecado wich is on right now was at the 6 pm slot and its production was asking for the 9 pm slot instead of Sortilegio there was a debate about it but at the end they didn't move Sortilegio but moved Mi Pecado an hour to the 7 pm slot wich worked very well for them.
Jarocha
Jarocha
Permalink posted by : Monday, September 28, 2009 at 2:28:00 PM EDT
: Monday, September 28, 2009 at 2:28:00 PM EDT
That makes sense. I only have time to watch the 8:00 (my time)show or I would watch more. I'm recording Destilando now but only watch it every now and then. I have it on DVD. I think more people are probably able to watch that timeslot because they've had dinner, etc. and now can relax. (relax?) :}
I have to say that even though there are things on these latin TNs that require a beanie, the American daytime soaps require a LEAD beanie. Sheesh. Anybody ever watch Y&R? I swear to God if one person came down with an STD, the entire town would have it within days. And the acting on soaps is really bad too. Eric Braeden who plays Victor Newman has to be one of the worst actors ever. Stinks like a skunk. At least the TNs have good actors. Silvia Navarro is outstanding, as is the actor playing Gonzo/Artemio!
Connie: Yeah, at 8 or 9 pm everybody is usually having dinner at home. I know for some countries 5 or 6 pm is dinnertime and it is the most important meal. At least that was the way I saw in Canada. In México dinner is around 9 pm and the most important meal is lunch so it is probable that people are just having something light while they watch the tv. Also, many housewives (the main consumers of novelas) let the novela on while they clean up the house or cook. But at the 9 pm their work is done and they can watch tv without much interruptions.
Jarocha
Jarocha
Permalink posted by : Monday, September 28, 2009 at 3:20:00 PM EDT
: Monday, September 28, 2009 at 3:20:00 PM EDT
Jarocha - Telefutura is doing the same thing right now, with Betty La Fea and Vecinos. Starting this week, BLF goes into 1/2 hr capítulos and the second 1/4 hr. is Vecinos. For sure, they'll get some of us to watch. I'll record the first two episodes of Vecinos in case I like it.
Jardinera!! Thank you very much and Thanks to all the commenters. Reading what y'all had to say helped relieve my "what tha. . " reaction to the whole episode. My first thought when I saw those rank amateurs was "uh oh, somebody's gonna die!" So I was glad they all survived!
Whoever said Ed & AB oughta talk was right on target, man, they should be allies!
Connie, guess I'm old, too! I'm proud to say my tastes in TV are based on 50+ years of experience and I'll take a good telenovela (where I can learn about a different language and culture) to much of what's offered these days on TV. (And gosh, Connie, I remember when Young and the Restless started. ..remember Snapper who wore the pj bottoms and his wife, Chris (I think) wore the tops and they were always on the verge or in afterglo)
Jarocha, interesting comments. I've seen some pretty good afternoon novelas but work schedule interferes. I don't discount the early shows.
I had called for Lilli to be neutralized several months ago cause I was tired of her suffering, I'm ready for her to be free and I hope she gets a part in another show where she can do something other than cower, quiver and cry.
Khalilah
Whoever said Ed & AB oughta talk was right on target, man, they should be allies!
Connie, guess I'm old, too! I'm proud to say my tastes in TV are based on 50+ years of experience and I'll take a good telenovela (where I can learn about a different language and culture) to much of what's offered these days on TV. (And gosh, Connie, I remember when Young and the Restless started. ..remember Snapper who wore the pj bottoms and his wife, Chris (I think) wore the tops and they were always on the verge or in afterglo)
Jarocha, interesting comments. I've seen some pretty good afternoon novelas but work schedule interferes. I don't discount the early shows.
I had called for Lilli to be neutralized several months ago cause I was tired of her suffering, I'm ready for her to be free and I hope she gets a part in another show where she can do something other than cower, quiver and cry.
Khalilah
Permalink posted by : Monday, September 28, 2009 at 4:26:00 PM EDT
: Monday, September 28, 2009 at 4:26:00 PM EDT
On the comparison between novelas, and US dramas...the one reason that I like Univision programming is that there is a underlament of morality that is strongly present in every novela that I have ever watched. Many US programs and movies have lost their way in that regard. Father Bosco wouldn't stand a chance in any current US programming!
Having said that, if you have even a couple of brain cells left in your cabeza, MEPS has been a trial, there needs to be some consistency and resolution in plot lines. Besides that, complaining is more fun than sitting around being nice all day! We have to be nice in our real lives, we can dish a little here!!
Sandy in TN
Having said that, if you have even a couple of brain cells left in your cabeza, MEPS has been a trial, there needs to be some consistency and resolution in plot lines. Besides that, complaining is more fun than sitting around being nice all day! We have to be nice in our real lives, we can dish a little here!!
Sandy in TN
Permalink posted by : Monday, September 28, 2009 at 4:30:00 PM EDT
: Monday, September 28, 2009 at 4:30:00 PM EDT
Doris: It wouldn't surprise me if more and more channels started using that tactic to keep their viewers. I do think it helps alot with ratings.
Khalilah that's the problem with early shows unfortunately.
Jarocha
Khalilah that's the problem with early shows unfortunately.
Jarocha
Permalink posted by : Monday, September 28, 2009 at 4:43:00 PM EDT
: Monday, September 28, 2009 at 4:43:00 PM EDT
Many US programs and movies have lost their way in that regard.
Sandy in TN - Amen!!! My DH watched 'Cougartown' last week while I was watching MEPS. He said C'town was rather disgusting.
Okay. I have to 'fess up. Due to being incapacitated with horrible back trouble all weekend, out of sheer boredom, I peeked ahead on YouTube at tonight's episode.
If I have my capitulo numbers right,
DO NOT MISS THIS ONE.
Sandy in TN - Amen!!! My DH watched 'Cougartown' last week while I was watching MEPS. He said C'town was rather disgusting.
Okay. I have to 'fess up. Due to being incapacitated with horrible back trouble all weekend, out of sheer boredom, I peeked ahead on YouTube at tonight's episode.
If I have my capitulo numbers right,
DO NOT MISS THIS ONE.
Jarocha: I always am glad to have your bilingual stamp of approval and the cultural input you give us is always extremely interesting. Thanks!
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Connie: Manomanoman! FC did look fine in that graveyard scene. I told hubby I couldn't understand how he managed to look so slim and perfectly built because guys with biceps and pecs like that usually look top-heavy. Not him. He looked perfectisimo!
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RandySEA/Khalilah/SandyTN: ITA about the telenovela as an artform. As I've said at other times, I see them as morality plays and I truly believe that in addition to their over all brevity, their glizty leads, the over-the-top plots and their cultural insights, that one constant is what has kept their fans satisfied and coming back for more.
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Welcome, Jewels.
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Connie: Manomanoman! FC did look fine in that graveyard scene. I told hubby I couldn't understand how he managed to look so slim and perfectly built because guys with biceps and pecs like that usually look top-heavy. Not him. He looked perfectisimo!
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RandySEA/Khalilah/SandyTN: ITA about the telenovela as an artform. As I've said at other times, I see them as morality plays and I truly believe that in addition to their over all brevity, their glizty leads, the over-the-top plots and their cultural insights, that one constant is what has kept their fans satisfied and coming back for more.
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Jardinera,
I was so surprised when, while watching my first TN, La Mentira, the characters stopped to pray. I'm not Catholic and honestly, I don't pray during the day, but it was wonderful to see a reliance on values or "religion" if you wish to call it that. The "glizty leads, the over-the-top plots and their cultural insights" just make it more fun!
Doris, so sorry about your back...hope you get to feeling better soon.
Sandy in TN
I was so surprised when, while watching my first TN, La Mentira, the characters stopped to pray. I'm not Catholic and honestly, I don't pray during the day, but it was wonderful to see a reliance on values or "religion" if you wish to call it that. The "glizty leads, the over-the-top plots and their cultural insights" just make it more fun!
Doris, so sorry about your back...hope you get to feeling better soon.
Sandy in TN
Permalink posted by : Monday, September 28, 2009 at 6:25:00 PM EDT
: Monday, September 28, 2009 at 6:25:00 PM EDT
Doris~~~Thanks for the heads up about tonight's episode. I will be surfing back and forth between MEPS and Dancing with the Stars. Can't wait. Hope your back is better.
Permalink posted by : Monday, September 28, 2009 at 6:39:00 PM EDT
: Monday, September 28, 2009 at 6:39:00 PM EDT
Jarocha,
Thanks for your comments which I always enjoy. I have been fortunate enough to visit Spain and Italy several times recently. My requests to restaurant owners to eat early were always ignored! In the US, I'm at work by 7:30 a.m. Lunch is at 11:00 and I'm finished dinner by 6:00 p.m. I guess we have different time schedules.
Lynne
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Thanks for your comments which I always enjoy. I have been fortunate enough to visit Spain and Italy several times recently. My requests to restaurant owners to eat early were always ignored! In the US, I'm at work by 7:30 a.m. Lunch is at 11:00 and I'm finished dinner by 6:00 p.m. I guess we have different time schedules.
Lynne
Permalink posted by : Monday, September 28, 2009 at 6:45:00 PM EDT
: Monday, September 28, 2009 at 6:45:00 PM EDT
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